1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? We have a very very special Bachelor 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Happy Hour. I am sitting here. I feel like I 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: should whisper you guys. I'm sitting here backstage. It's women. 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Tell all, I've just watched the whole thing. The ladies 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: will be coming through, and you know, I've got a 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: ton of questions to ask. We're gonna get to it. Unfortunately, 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: my girl Becca, she's not going to be here tonight, 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: but that's okay. I told her I would pick up 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: the pieces. She wants to be here. She's here in spirit. 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: She even sent in some questions for me, So I'm 11 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: gonna ask Becca's questions. I'm not going to talk anymore 12 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: because the first lady is coming up right now. First 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: up to join me on the podcast. I'm so excited 14 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: to talk to you. It's Sydney. Yes, how are you? 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: First of all, you look sunny, let me know, and 16 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: look amazing. Yeah. I appreciate that. But how do you feel? Um? 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: You know why I feel? I feel like a certain 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: calmness right now, I do. I feel like a lot 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: has happened over you know, an extended amount of time, 20 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: and I finally have had a little second to wreath 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 1: and for everything to finally happen and to move on. 22 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, no, I mean today it was a lot. 23 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: It was a lot, but like for different reasons. Because one, 24 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: you know, you're like facing the drawing. It's a reunion show, 25 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: you know, like we all love reunion shows because it's 26 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: like you, it all comes to a head. You've seen 27 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: what everyone's saying at im right to Peter all that's 28 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: all that good, bad stuff. But it's the first time 29 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: y'all are seeing each other and talking. Then you have 30 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: to see Peter for the first time and it's been 31 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: three months ish. Then we had this conversation that needed 32 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: to be had that honestly you spearheaded. Thank you and no, 33 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: thank you both of you. Though no it's not because 34 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: of me. No, we have to give credit. Recredited is due, 35 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: because you know, we had the conversation where we talked 36 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: about race. It was uncomfortable, but it was necessary. And 37 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know this, but you know, 38 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: Sitny and I had a conversation because of a lot 39 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: of hate that she was receiving. And I am one 40 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: to brush things under the rug. I'm like, okay, I 41 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: get a message, delete, move off. But that's not what 42 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: everybody does. And I'm acting like it's not an issue 43 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: and it's a problem. And it was you who made 44 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: me say, you know what, it is a problem and 45 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: we need to talk about it. So how did you 46 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: feel having that conversation? Right? So when we had our conversation, 47 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: I was just you know, we were just talking about what, 48 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, looking up to you and what you had 49 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: to go through, you know, as the first African American 50 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: bout to read and being in this it's it's it's 51 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: hard for women of color. It's hard. And I'll say 52 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: that because I've lived this my whole life and then 53 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: now it being on such a huge scale I've had 54 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: to deal with. You know, if someone doesn't like you, 55 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: they go as low as they possibly can, and the 56 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: lowest you can go as someone's rights, you know. So 57 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: having this opportunity to talk about something that I'm so 58 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: passionate about and something that I saw in this and 59 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: I hope that changes meant everything to me. And I 60 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: just feel like it's my duty for girls that do 61 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: look like us to know that you can do this 62 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: number one and number two, you can rise about the hate. Yeah, 63 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: So absolutely see and that's thank you, thank you for that. 64 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: How did it feel when the women came running over 65 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: to you to comfort you after seeing some of those 66 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: text messages that they know that were directed towards that. 67 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: I keep saying text messages, those DMS comments that were 68 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: directed to you. You know, a lot of people will 69 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: say about the season that we didn't love each other 70 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 1: and that we were always so catty and against each 71 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: other but still questioned. But in that moment was a 72 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: moment that I had felt nothing but love from those 73 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: women and the support and the love means so much 74 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: to me. And you know, all the little Heheyanians that 75 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: were done in the past like that that made up 76 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: for everything, because you know, when you when you're hurt, 77 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: you just that love just means everything. And I think 78 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: that's important for everyone else to see, because we do see. 79 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: You know, your season has gotten and I've talked about 80 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: all the podcast, your season has gotten a lot of 81 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: heat for the girls being so catty and mean girls 82 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: and not just not having that unity and sisterhood. But 83 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: on the stage, in that moment, we saw the sisterhood. 84 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: And it's funny because there was a point today in 85 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: Women Tell All where Lexie said, you guys don't know this, 86 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: but like we all love each other. And I remember thinking, Okay, LEXI, yeah, 87 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: but in that moment, I saw the love someone's hurting 88 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: like I have heard through this and the things that 89 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: they actually finally saw that was happening to me. Nothing 90 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: but love, Nothing but love was received and I love that. 91 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: Yes I did. I loved it too. And I think 92 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: your mess not think, I know your message resonated with me. 93 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's going to resonate with everybody who saw it. 94 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: And I just hope that because of what you spearheaded 95 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: that we can all be better and do better and 96 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: just hold each other accountable. That voice, and you know, 97 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: I this opportunity and this to say something about it 98 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: and have you there to just like support me has 99 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: meant so much to me. Yes, and I do. I 100 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: hope that it goes forward and we stop this because 101 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're just gonna love each other a little 102 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: bit more. Yeses, we do. Yeah, so let's talk about 103 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: moving forward. Okay, So you just survived women, tell all 104 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: I survived. What is next? Paradise Summer games? Who knows? Rachel? 105 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: Are you interested in it? I want to find love. 106 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: I know that, So whichever way that that may happen, 107 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: I'm open to it. M skeptical of courtious because of 108 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: all the hate, but um, hopefully it gets better. And 109 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: you know, he knows, who knows what's going to happen. 110 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: But you have a support system around you, So I 111 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: think like, as long as you have that strong circle, 112 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: you can combat that hate even on the worst days. 113 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: But I know you're a hot commodity because this Bachelor 114 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: Nation world is small and the people are talking. They 115 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: want to know if you're going to be out there 116 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: on the beach or wherever summer games. Maybe you can't 117 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: give us ahead something I'll say like I do want 118 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: to find love in whatever way that maybe, um, we'll 119 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: have to see. So what do you think about the ending? 120 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: I have to get your opinion on this because we 121 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: saw tonight that Madison is clearly struggling. We saw Victoria 122 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: f goes home, and now it's down to Madison and Hannah. 123 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: Knowing everything that came out, because I heard your response 124 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: to Madison's the decisions that she has made as she's 125 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: navigated this journey, But how you really feel because all 126 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: y'all gave really politically correct answers, and I happen to 127 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: think I think what you said is right about her 128 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: being true to her like beliefs and her standards and 129 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: the commitment that she's made. That's beautiful. But you find 130 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: no issue in the timing of it all. I you know, 131 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: I will say, I think she may it may have 132 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: been in her best interest to speak about it before 133 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: she did, Okay. I think she waited to the absolute 134 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: last second and not rubs some people the wrong way. 135 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: And I thought if she looking back now, I think 136 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: she would have even brought it up before she did. 137 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: But in that I will say that I Madison is 138 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: who she says she is going to waiver no matter 139 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: if there's a fantasy suite or not. Madison's not going 140 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: to do that. And she holds herself to you know 141 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 1: what she's always been, you know, of her whole life. 142 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: So what do you think about someone coming on the 143 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: show like, let's just be honest and I feel like 144 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm a Christian, Yeah, let's just be honest. The Batcher isn't, like, 145 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, standing on biblical standards. So what do you 146 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: think about someone who comes on the show knowing how 147 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: the show is and then has comes all the way 148 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: to the end. Yes, you know, possibly taking somebody else's 149 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: place and potentially may leave for that same reason. Like, 150 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: do you think that's fair? Do you think that's selfish? 151 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it's selfish. I think that Madison, like 152 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: I said, should have just brought it up before she 153 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: did and it would have gone a little bit better. Yes, 154 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: we know the show, it's not you know, their sex 155 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: is involved in this show. It's not a secret. Yeah, 156 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: and her knowing her you know views on that. It's 157 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: if you know, it's one of those situations where it's 158 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: just like what are you gonna do? You know, you 159 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: know you're in this position, You've gotten this far, you 160 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: love this man, and there's certain steps that are going 161 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: to be made with other women, and however you feel 162 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: about it doesn't really matter at the end of the day. Um, 163 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: but I don't think that she put him in a 164 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: situation to make it a decision. She was just like, Hey, 165 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: this is how I feel about it. Take it or 166 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: leave it, but this is how I'm going to feel 167 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: no matter what happens. You know, Okay, well what do 168 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: you think's gonna happen? You know, we don't know apparently 169 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: accluding to Christna, that is Peter. It's I don't know 170 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: what that means. You know what, Peter has had a 171 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: reputation for not being able to make decisions. So I 172 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: think it's a case of like he hasn't made his 173 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: decision yet, as in like between the women. Yeah, like 174 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: they're saying, you know, like he is unspoiled. She can't 175 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: be unspoiled. Well, how can it not be unspoiled? Maybe 176 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: he hasn't even design it, he knows. Thank you so 177 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: much for being here. I appreciate you and thank you 178 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: for what you did tonight. Yeah, thank you all right, 179 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: Next in the hot seat is she Ane, which I 180 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: am so excited to talk to you because I feel 181 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: like on the season we didn't see much. But first 182 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: of all, congratulations for surviving women till all think that's 183 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: the feat in itself. But you talk, you were getting 184 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: into it. You and Lexie had some TIFFs. I don't 185 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: want to get all messy, but I'm just saying it 186 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: was nice because I think we saw you very quiet 187 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: on this show. So how did it fill tonight? Sitting 188 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: up there on stage and really getting to express what 189 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: this journey was for you. It was honestly, so on 190 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: the show, I was a lot more quiet. I didn't 191 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: want to get involved in the drama because I was 192 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: there by my person. I wasn't there to start stuff 193 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: being stuff like I don't want it. But then you know, 194 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean I don't have my feelings about situations, right, 195 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: and so you know, I'm like, okay at the tell 196 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: of like I need to express how I feel because 197 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: I didn't express any of that when I was on 198 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: the show, or you know, nothing was shown, and so 199 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: that's kind of yeah, that's kind of why tonight. I 200 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: just I just took it and I was like, look, 201 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: these are the situations and this is this is like 202 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: a real thing. Well I was here for yeah, please 203 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: be quiet so she can speak, Oh please? Yeah. Yeah. 204 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: So you and I were talking just a bit before 205 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: we got on the mic, yes for Bachelor Happy Hour. 206 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: So when Peter came to the show, yes, the only 207 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: time we've had him on. Actually we've had him on twice. 208 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: So when Peter actually came in the Flesh to Bath 209 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: to a Happy Hour, he revealed that he didn't pick 210 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: any of the flight attendants. He sent home three flight attendants. 211 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: The first night. But then he said there was one 212 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: that revealed herself in a very interesting way and we 213 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: never saw that on the show. So it is there's 214 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: something that you want to tell us that we don't know. 215 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: Um so I, yes, I used to be a flight attendant. Okay, 216 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: she's the one guy surprise. Um yeah, so I used 217 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: to be a flight attendant. It was a couple of 218 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: years back. But after night one and I realized he's 219 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: sitting all of them home, was like, uh, like I'm 220 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: keeping that a little like I gotta I gotta build 221 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: a relationship first before I hit like, do you play chess? 222 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: Because you were playing chess my bight and you were 223 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: winning because the three of them home, and I was 224 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: like and so when I told him like that I 225 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: was a flight attend it was in that kind of 226 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: matic scene. So we were sitting there, were having a 227 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: conversation and I was like, how are you doing good? Okay, cool, 228 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: but there's something I need to tell you and he's 229 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: like what And I was like uh, And I like 230 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: started like kind of having like a mini panic attack 231 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: on it's on my chest, like I've been laying in 232 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: bed staying up late about this, Like it's I just 233 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,599 Speaker 1: I don't want you to think anything different about me. 234 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: And he's like, Jann, what, Like, you're really scaring me. 235 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, I take this long break and he's like, 236 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: n tell me. And I look up at him and 237 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm just like, I used to be a flight attendant. 238 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: He's like, are you freaking kidding? Maybe like jumped back 239 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: in his scene. He's like, oh my god, you scared 240 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: the crab out of me. I thought it was something 241 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: else and we just laughed and like talked about flying. Well, 242 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: he's still talking about it because he loves it. He 243 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: was excited to tell us. I demand him the other 244 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: day because I'm like, who is this mystery flight attendant? 245 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: And when he told me it was you, I was like, 246 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? And he's so upset that that 247 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: didn't make the cut. It was so great, Like I'm 248 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: so sad that didn't show because there was a lot 249 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: of me crying and I was like, and that was 250 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: like one moment where I was like, Oh, they're gonna 251 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: show this and everyone's gonna be like yeah and anyway show. 252 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: I was like, great, Okay, fine, do you feel like 253 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: you have any regrets? Because it's it's one thing to 254 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: be in it all, yes, and then you go home 255 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: and then you watch where you were a part of it, 256 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: and then so much more of it back. Do you 257 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: feel like you have any regrets from this season? I 258 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: definitely could have been more aggressive, I don't you know, 259 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: it's hard when you're on the show. You try, but 260 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you get your way. Yeah, and I 261 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: definitely did try, but I could have been more like no, 262 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: like I need this, I'm going, you know, go go go, 263 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: rather than then being like no and okay, like yeah, 264 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: you should have been more aggressive. And that's kind of 265 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: one thing like I definitely wish I could have done one. Well. 266 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: I can see why you didn't want to be aggressive 267 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: because there was a lot of aggressive behavior, and I'm 268 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm not really I'm not a person to just be 269 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: naggy like that. I'm just not like, I will put 270 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: forth the effort, but I'm not one to just be 271 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: in your face all the time. Go go, go go, 272 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: you know. So that was something that that was challenging 273 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: for me. Who are you close with from your season? 274 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: I'm actually really close with Tammy. Me and Tammy are 275 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: super close. I am so actually happy that you said 276 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: that because I love her so much. Watching tonight, it 277 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: seems like Who's friends with? I think at one point 278 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: I saw you kind of like consoling Tammy, but I 279 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: was like, Who's friends with? Tammy? Just seemed to be 280 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: so much build up an attack on Tammy, And I 281 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: get it, Tammy. Tammy made some mistakes she did throughout 282 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: the show. Everybody did right, and I think, you know, 283 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: I relate to someone with a strong personality and a 284 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: lot of opinions, and you know, sometimes we navigate things differently. 285 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: But it's really nice to hear that Tammy actually has 286 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: a friend of the house. I like, we talk every 287 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: day every day. You like about Tammy because it seems 288 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's lost in some of the drama. 289 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: But the thing is is that regardless of and it's 290 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: with that personality, like regardless of you, she gives you 291 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: the tough love when you meet. She's there when you're sad, 292 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: when you're up, if you need someone to talk to you, 293 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: she listens. But then she kind of brings you back 294 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: and she's like, Okay, have your moment, but also like 295 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: come back and you're better than that and move forward. 296 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: Don't like listen to the hate, don't do this, and 297 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: that's it's a great thing to have. Like, yes, she's 298 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: tender in those moments of where you need a good 299 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: friend and you should her cry on, but like she 300 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: also builds your backbone and she's like, don't be weepy, 301 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: like come on, and I think, yeah, you're right, and 302 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: we all need that friend. Yeah, and I think we 303 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: do see that. It's just so much happened after that 304 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: we forgot, because let's not forget. During Champagne Gate, it 305 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: was Tammy who was and that's comforting Kelsey and who 306 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: was checking to see if everyone's okay, and she was, 307 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: like hannah An said, she didn't, and she was really 308 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: trying to be the mediator and dissolve the situation and 309 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: the kind of find a resolution to she I mean, yes, 310 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: she's strong in her words, and some people just can't 311 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: take that for what it is without feeling attacked. And 312 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: I don't think it ever comes in a place of 313 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: being attacked. I think that some of the those moments 314 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: you know between Kelsey and Tammy and Sydney and Tammy 315 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: or whatever, and that at that in Costa Rica, it 316 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: was just I feel like Tammy was feeling attacked and 317 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: then that's when it just came out. Yeah, you know, 318 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: and I and that can happen to anybody. I don't 319 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: think that's a fault on Tammy. I told her. I 320 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: was like, you could have handled it a little bit better, right, 321 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: But that's with anyone into the learning experience. Yeah, so 322 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: you watch it back and you're like, yeah, that wasn't right. 323 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: I should have said it this way, And you think 324 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: she learned from this experience. Definitely good. Good for her. 325 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: So before I let you go, I have to ask you, 326 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: because we have no idea what happens at the end 327 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: of this is the first not a first that I 328 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: necessarily like, I want to know what's happening. So what 329 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: happens at the end of it? Where? What do you 330 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: think happens at the end of this season? God, I 331 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: truly don't know. And I've tried to figure I've tried 332 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: to like make equations. I'm like writing it down like 333 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: that Madison does this, and then and then Hannah Ann 334 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: does this, and then Peter goes home and Bob's crying 335 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: about Matt. Like I I've like literally written it down 336 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: and tried to figure out the answer. I don't know 337 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: because every time I see the episode, I'm like, oh no, 338 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: it's this and my whole thing changes. And when you 339 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: were saying that, all I saw was the meme where 340 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: the woman has the equation in the chalkboard behind her 341 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: and she's just more confused and more. It's that's me. 342 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: It's just I. That's all of us. Yeah, it's all 343 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: of us. Well, thank you so much for being here. 344 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: It's so nice to say, oh, okay, this is my 345 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: first podcast and I'm so honored. I love you some 346 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: more time. I literally all the time, and I'm just like, 347 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, oh well, thank you so much for 348 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: being here. And that everybody gets to come in the 349 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: hot scene. So it's such a pleasure to meet you. 350 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: Half fun tonight because I know the afterparty's gonna be popping. 351 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm ready for the pizza. Oh oh, I didn't know 352 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: there was pizza. Okay, let's go. Thank you. I just 353 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: want to say how savueous Alaa looks. Listen this sequence 354 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: suit and I'm not a big sequence for actually a 355 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: lie every since being Bastrett, it's it's it's what I 356 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: have throw with the sparkle. This looks amazing. Yeah, what 357 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: siyes are you whatever you want? Girl, I can't fit 358 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: the same thing. Listen, I keep telling everyone this, you survived, 359 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: Women tell All. I feel like a lot of people 360 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: had eyes on you, questions about what kind of went down. 361 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: There just seems to be so much in the air. 362 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you got everything out that you 363 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: needed to say tonight? I feel like I did. I mean, 364 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: it's hard being in that. I know that I was 365 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: really kind of dreading going to women till all because 366 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm not an aggressive personality, and obviously we have a 367 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: lot of aggressive personalities in our group, and I was 368 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: really nervous that I wasn't going to be able to 369 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: say what I had to say. But now that it's 370 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: all over and I can breathe again, I feel pretty 371 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: good about how everything happened. Well, people didn't attack you. No, 372 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't about you, Honestly, it seemed to be more 373 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: more of the heat was on Victoria. Victoria P Yeah. 374 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: I mean I feel like there was a lot of 375 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: Like I said, there's a lot of miscommunication. There's a 376 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: lot of lack of communication, and I feel like a 377 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: lot of America and the girls in the house had questions, 378 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: but I do feel like we're able to kind of 379 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: address those, do you, because I feel like I still 380 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: have some questions, like, for example, did you really know 381 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: each other longer than three hours? Yes? Okay, that's just 382 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: seems to be the biggest one. Yeah, what to sum 383 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: up when you heard watching back the conversation that Victoria 384 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: had with Peter about you, Victoria p Sorry had with 385 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: Peter about you? Sum up your reaction in one ward? 386 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: I mean I was taken aback, for sure. I wasn't 387 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: expecting that. It was hard to watch for me because 388 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: coming into this, I did expect for us to have 389 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: each other's back. But I understand that when you're asked 390 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: a question and you have a feeling, you're going to 391 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: express that you're going to be honest about your feelings. Again, 392 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: I just feel like it was a lack of communication 393 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: going into that, and I wish that we would have 394 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: had the chance to talk about it before Peter asked 395 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, but we didn't, and that's unfortunate. Where 396 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: do you guys stand today? I mean, we kind of 397 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: just respect each other, like we understand that we didn't 398 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: communicate enough through this and that we want to both 399 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: move past this. We don't want this to define us. 400 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: To find the group of friends that we're in and 401 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: we just want to kind of have like a mutual 402 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: respect for each other. That's good. Yeah, that's very adult 403 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: immature of you. Yes, there doesn't have to be a winner, 404 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 1: a loser, or a writer wrong. We just respect each 405 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: other's opinion. Right. So, I have an important question for 406 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: you that I know America wants to know. Do you 407 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: have a job? Three jobs? And please tell them what? 408 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: Tell people what they are. I didn't realize my occupation 409 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: would be so interested in either, so the obvious. I'm 410 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: an orthodonic assistant, I model professionally, and I own a boutique. 411 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: Good for you, girl, Tell people where they can find 412 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 1: the boutique. I mean as well pubpe it on the 413 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: podcast boutique. I got these earrings from my boutique, so 414 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: we've keet access rates. It's me, my mom, and my sister. 415 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: We run it together. Good for you. So what's next? Well, first, no, 416 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: I like to ask this question because I've been in 417 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: your shoes before. I know what it's like to have 418 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: a sisterhood in the house, and you guys got a 419 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: lot of heat for not having a sisterhood just seems 420 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: to be a lot of cattiness. And then but then 421 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: Lexi was like, well, we all love each other, so 422 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: who were you close with in the house, isn't obvious? Savannah? 423 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: Savannah's my girl, man, Savannah back girl. We all need 424 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: a Savannah in our life and saying how like I 425 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: feel like as Texas girls as we just have each 426 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: other's backs like that, because savannahs from Texas to arrive 427 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: and yep, did y'all know each other before? No, we didn't, 428 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: so we met on the show. We're already have plans 429 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: to go at the rodeo to gain her performing at 430 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: the rodeo. She no, Liz was performing at the rodeo. 431 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm almost I'm oh my god, I need to see her. 432 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: I am almost positive because the rodeo is what like 433 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: next week or something like that. In rodeos next month, 434 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: next month, the same time you. Rodeo already happened the 435 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: Houston Rodeo. I'm pretty sure listening is performing because she 436 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: used to live in Houston. She's so good. Yeah, I'm 437 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: obsessed with her. Yeah, I'm glad I could do you 438 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: that favor. Thank you, thank you for that. So what's 439 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: next for you? Paradise summer games? He's asking, I don't 440 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: think I'm fit enough for summer games. I'm not gonna lie. 441 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm the cheerleader on the side. Cheerleading is a sport. 442 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: It's totally you watch cheers. No. I was like, I 443 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: could Matt talk you. That's a thing. Oh really my 444 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: sister did cheerleader. Okay, so I understand like the side lingo, 445 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: but I don't know. Everybody keeps asking about Paradise, and genuinely, 446 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I feel like that's one of 447 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: those decisions I'm just gonna make when the question comes. 448 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: You are so put together, and I get it, like 449 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: I can be. I wasn't in pagets, but like just 450 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: being an attorney and like feeling you like you have 451 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: to be on, like you know how to turn it on. 452 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: I know an appropriate situation. Yes, I know, yes, when 453 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: you I know how to put on a show as well. 454 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: I get it. So my question to you is what 455 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: do you do to like let your hair down and 456 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: go crazy? Like are you ever not put together? Oh 457 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: my god? Yeah? I mean did you see me how 458 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: encounter drum about that? Yet? Really bored? Those are the 459 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: best moments. It was so fun. I had the best 460 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: day that day until everything kind of fell apart. But 461 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: I was just bored and I was like, you know what, 462 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: I've been in this house for three days. I'm gonna 463 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: get drunk tonight and I'm gonna have some pizza and 464 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: some cookies. And one thing led to another. I found 465 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: the pilot's hat and next thing you know, I'm on 466 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: the counter talking about the Mile High Club. I don't 467 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: it just happened? Well, you know what, you want me 468 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: to share a secret with you. One day we were 469 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: really like had nothing to do. You know how it 470 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: is like when you don't have a date and you're like, okay, 471 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: we'll like drink games or whatever. We started talking about tworking. 472 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: I feel like working was like so big, that's in 473 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: And I was like, do you know how to twork 474 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: on the wall? And so we taught everybody how to 475 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: twork on the wall, like that was like our thing. Yeah, yeah, 476 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: I don't know who I would ever twork on. I've 477 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: never even done it for my husband. Maybe you would 478 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: say apparely that now I started listening to this, he's 479 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: gonna be like, baby, I know what happened. But you 480 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: know what we used to joke and say, the reason 481 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: we're getting roses is because we're like remember that night 482 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: that we were all working on the wall. Oh yeah, 483 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: that's what we do in our one on one time. No, 484 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, your knows are like mine twins. You 485 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: guys is we're having a mom my hair. You can't 486 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: see it, but we're having a moment. It's like there's 487 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: something deep rooted and Texas spirit. Yeah right, it's just 488 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: a thing you've seen somebody from Texas. You're like, yeah, 489 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: I got you, girl, feel I got you? All right? Well, 490 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: is there anything else you feel like you want to 491 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: clear up? I want to say, gosh, yes, I listened 492 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: to your podcast. Oh when I called you Eliah not 493 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: even already does It's just something the Texas longhorn being 494 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: my spirit animal. I go boast like Bible, and I 495 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: went to a game shortly after listening to I'm like, yeah, 496 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: he's boring. Never mind, it's a koala. My new spirit 497 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: animal is a coal. So you changed it because of 498 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: what I said you First, I was like, yeah, Texas 499 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: Pride long horns. Then I'm like, no, yeah he's boring. 500 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: Did you call the Texas. No, I'm just good but 501 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: so well, you're close enough there except for the time 502 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: that he almost tried to run over the dogs. So 503 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: that was that was my that's your spirit animal. I'm 504 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: BiVO against Georgia. It's right, Georgia Boulda, Yeah, Georgia bulldogs. Okay, Well, 505 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here, and um, I 506 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: just wish you the best on your journey. We hope 507 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: to see you on something else. We'll see we want 508 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: more of you. In the pilot had tronk on top 509 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: of the counter. Hey, hey, we know she's in there. 510 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: She's in there, bash our fans. I have sitting in 511 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: front of me with a mouthful of pizza. Kelsey, Kelsey, 512 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. I'm trying to think of where 513 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: I want to start with you. Just bring it all. 514 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm ready for it. Well, you survived women tell all. 515 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: That's what I say. That's an honor in itself. How 516 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: do you think it went? How do you think you did? Um? 517 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: I think for the most party did. Okay. You know 518 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm somebody that can embrace my flaws. I can 519 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: own up to when I was in the wrong and 520 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: just make humor of it. And that's what I tried 521 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: to do. The thing about me is I did express 522 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: to the girls in the house how I felt about them. 523 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: I didn't talk crap in the interviews. So it's a 524 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: rare characteristic. I knew people knew how I felt about 525 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: them going into it, and we had most of everything 526 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: hashed out. Yeah, I think the girls that didn't do 527 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: that were a little bit more scared. So for me, 528 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: it was just kind of like, all right, let's see 529 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: what I've said everything I have to say. That's a 530 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: rare thing. I'm like that too. That's why that's why 531 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,479 Speaker 1: I was controversial in the house. Well, because you said stuff. 532 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: I think so because a lot of the girls, you know, 533 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: would kind of say stuff a little bit, but then 534 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: in their interviews they would say more. So then it 535 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: kind of got a little bit more controversial at the 536 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: women at all. Yeah. I was talking to Sheen because 537 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: she says she's really close to Tammy, and you know, 538 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this and I'm like, what went wrong? 539 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: Because that night at Champagne Gate, she was the one 540 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: who was like right there with you. Did you see 541 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: her interviews not at that point they turned later, but 542 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: turned later. If you actually paid attention because I got 543 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: now I was paying attention. She was talking about how 544 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: crazy I was in that moment, how Peter needed to 545 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: know and all this step So she was already in 546 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: the champagne moment. But it was a crazy moment Kelse Oh, 547 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: obviously it was. It was bat shit, but be honest, 548 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: I laughed and I actually took up for you on 549 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: the podcast because I was like, she's not a bully. 550 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: I mean, so it was crazy, but I was like, 551 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: you weren't a bully in that moment, and I hate 552 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: when that word, so for use I was. She cursed 553 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: her out? She did, but I think there in Hannah 554 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: knows this. The reason I was so heated in that 555 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: moment was because if she would have just left me alone, 556 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: I would if I didn't actually go up to her 557 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: and like continue to be mean. Yeah, Um, when did 558 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: you all become friends? Um? Honestly, it was on our 559 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: way down to Costa Rica. On the plane, her and 560 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 1: I sat next to each other both times, which never happened. 561 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: It was like this rare, godsent thing and her and 562 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: I just talked everything out and it was nice because 563 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: it was off camera. I know the viewers want to 564 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: see that. But I think even if we did it 565 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: on camera, it and have really been and maybe would 566 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: have been shown and people would have really cared because 567 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: there was so much trama going on. Well, I appreciated it, actually, 568 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: and I didn't notice it at first. It was Becka, 569 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: my co host who couldn't be here today. Shout out 570 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: to Becca. She noticed it. How you when Hannah Ann 571 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,239 Speaker 1: came back from what was a three on one two 572 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: on one something like that, Yeah, you ran up to 573 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: her and you hugged her and we were like, see, 574 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: we can't all get along. But what's funny is people 575 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: it's this is the hard thing about the show because 576 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: my drama happened so early on and that was really 577 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: the first time, the first thing people saw of me, 578 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: that was their first impression of me. Yeah. So it 579 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: was like me trying to climb a mountain to get 580 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: people to see who I really was. Whereas for a 581 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: lot of girls, people got to see who they were 582 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: and then they got in a drama and it's like, oh, 583 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: it's just a bad moment. Yeah, But for me, it 584 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: was like, oh, well I can't get past the champagne thing. 585 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Yeah? So if you actually watched 586 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: the show in Costa Rica, Hannah and I had a 587 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: one on one girl chat, but a lot people dismiss that, yeah, 588 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,959 Speaker 1: in their mind. And then I went crazy, you know, 589 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: with calling Sinny what I did. I got a little intoxicated. Yeah, 590 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: but that wasn't I felt like champagne Gate was so 591 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: big that you really had nowhere to go from up. 592 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: But like, you really went up fast. And I think 593 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people were surprised at the progression of 594 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: your relationship with Peter. A lot of people like, whether 595 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: they liked it or not, that you went and talked 596 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: to Peter privately. Whatever it is, you and Peter had something, 597 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: and you made it all the way to hometowns. Yeah, 598 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: and I think people started to change on you. I 599 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: know the amount of hate I got from champagne Gate. 600 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: Some of those messages on the board were from me, 601 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: and I did out people on my own personal account, 602 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: and I got mixed reviews about it. Some people. If 603 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: you're bold enough to send the message, then you're bold 604 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: enough to let people. And I used to be able 605 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: to show the names on it. I blocked that out, 606 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: but even from match our Nation, I got some messages 607 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: like Hey, you're better than that. You're feeding into their 608 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: like what they want, You're feeding the whatever. And I'm like, 609 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: but I'm not because I'm not showing who it is. 610 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: But I also think it's important to put it out there. 611 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: So I'm really happy that we got to talk about 612 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: that tonight because good. I think it's important and I 613 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: think it was important too, And I'm glad that, like 614 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: you guys were so open about, you know, you're sharing 615 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: your own experiences because it's not always easy. And I 616 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: think as one person did, everyone else did. And it 617 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: sounds like you guys had talked with each other too, 618 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: yeah about some of the experiences that you're sharing. And 619 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: I think when you have that power circle of friends, 620 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: it really helps you combat this because nobody gets this, 621 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: no what you're going through. And I think when I 622 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: put those messages on my Instagram story, I had so 623 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: many girls that I hadn't really talked to that reach out. 624 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: It's like, this isn't okay. I get this all the time, 625 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, kind of like all right, we didn't see 626 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: eye to eye, but we can level on the fact 627 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: that we know we're going through. So that was reassuring. Yeah, 628 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: it almost bonds you in a way. It does. It 629 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: does real quick paradise summer games? Would you do those? 630 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: I think I would like summer games more, just because 631 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm such a competitive person. You didn't get to see 632 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: this because I was on all the Glam dates. I 633 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: would have loved to do tackle football, but I didn't 634 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: want the bruises. So I'm happy for that fact. But 635 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: I would have ran over some girls to know they're listening. 636 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: They're listening to this. Also, who does Peter pick, Hannah 637 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: Ann Madison or himself? I can't decide between the two, 638 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna say himself. Okay, that's because I can 639 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: go back and forth every other day on Gray Picks. 640 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with it me too, Well, thank you so 641 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: much for being here. It's so nice to me. That 642 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: bottle of champagne. I wanted some of that. You didn't 643 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: pop that thing. Um, I don't know. I have like 644 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: champagne all over me. But all right, sitting here with 645 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: me now is LEXI. So I know something about you 646 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: that maybe you don't think that I know. I heard 647 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: you were the coolest chick in the house. That's literally 648 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: how it was described to me. They were like, oh 649 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: my God, Lexie's the coolest. I love that. That's awesome, 650 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: But I don't think I'm the cool Is that? I mean, like, 651 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: we didn't see a lot of you on the season, 652 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: but I felt like when you spoke it was like 653 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: very matter of fact. You were very chill. You didn't 654 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: seem to get like involved in the drama. Yeah, I 655 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: had a girl click y'all have y'all had a little click. 656 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: It's okay, we were. They called us the cool kiss. 657 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: We had a click too. I just I'm like, you're 658 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: in the house when there's thirty different women, Yeah, you're gonna, 659 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: you know, be drawn to certain people and they become 660 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: like your safe place in the house. Um. So that 661 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: that really was that group of girls. And we're just 662 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: very outspoken. Um yeah, farcastic as hell. Um. We just 663 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: joke around a lot with each other, like we have 664 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: very like self depreciating humors. Yeah. Um, And I think 665 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: you needed that kind of like comedic relief in the 666 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: situation we were in. Um. Yeah, let me ask you 667 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: this because I feel like after watching you tonight and 668 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: women till all, you you are opinionated. You're outspoken girl 669 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: after my own heart. But you tell it like it is. Yeah, 670 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: So watching as a viewer what was happening in the 671 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: house with the women, it was like insane. You know, 672 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: you've gotten a lot of flak. Yeah, was it really 673 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: that bad? It was worse? Oh, oh my god. I 674 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: think it would have self illuminating it. Well, that's that's 675 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: the thing is. I started to just like it was 676 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: almost funny, like how how have we gotten so far 677 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: off track of what we were supposed to be focusing on, 678 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: which is Peter. Yeah, like we're talking about champagne bottles 679 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: and friendships before and we don't who cares? Yeah, it 680 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: just started to get so noisy. I just wanted to 681 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: be like, like, what just happening? You just have to 682 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: last to survive that. So I think I didn't realize that. 683 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: I thought I was coming off like a crazy person. Yeah, 684 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: like because by the time we got to Coast Draca, 685 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: I had a hit, didn't I hit my mark? I 686 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: was like, that's it, I'm gonna say exactly what I 687 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: want um And I felt like I did that all 688 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: the way through. But I just I was there truly 689 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: just to find a connection. I believe I don't care 690 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: if I win. I didn't care if I went home 691 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: at night one that he wasn't my person. Yeah, but 692 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: it was so nice to meet you because I'm very 693 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: happy with my life. Yeah, and I want someone to 694 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: share it with you. That's the whole that was it 695 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: for me. Do you think that was your demise? Like, 696 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: do you think that that's why you ended up? You 697 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: didn't participate in the drama. He seems to like when 698 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: a girl shows emotion, you know, like almost confuses that 699 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: with depth. We see we talk about that on the podcast, 700 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: confuses the two. Do you think like that that was 701 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: probably why you went home? Yeah. I think it was 702 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: a multiple things. I definitely could have opened up a 703 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: little bit more earlier on. It was just hard, I 704 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: think with everything else going on, and a lot of 705 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: the conversations turned to what was going on with other girls? Yeah, 706 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: And I was like, Peter, I'm so glad that you 707 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: want to ask me, but I'm also not your therapist, like, yeah, 708 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying to date you. Yeah, and we just keep 709 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: talking about other girls. So that was a little frustrating. 710 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: But I just I understood where he was coming from, 711 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: Like I felt for him. I wanted to give him 712 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: some sort of guidance if that's really what he wanted. Yeah, 713 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: and I don't think I would change anything. Like I 714 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: learned so much about my good and I'm even more vocal, 715 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, like I have no problem just oh you 716 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: were vocal or you were vocal tonight, I said, Well, 717 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: like I was talking to she, I was like, what's 718 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: up with you? And Lexie? I mean, which I was 719 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: interesting for me too. Well. I was proud of her 720 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: because it was like she wanted to speak and have 721 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: her voice because we didn't see it much on the season. 722 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: We didn't see yours on the season, so it was 723 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, you know, like Lexi's really honestly, 724 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: you should have spoken up more. Maybe you could have 725 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: narrated this whole season. We could have gotten through it 726 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: a lot more faster with complete synesis and thoughts and 727 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I mean, that's the thing 728 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: is you never know what's going to be in the show. Yea, 729 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: I was vocal, but I think I held back a 730 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 1: little because I was like, well, this is what's going on. Yeah, 731 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to kind of ride it out. 732 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be in the drama because that's 733 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 1: not who I like. Yeah, I don't get involved in that. Yeah, 734 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: but when it started to affect my time with Peter, Yeah, 735 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: that's when I was like, okay, we need to stop this, 736 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: y because it just felt like the train was going 737 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 1: off the tracks a little. You had a very interesting 738 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: comment tonight, and I keep talking about it because it 739 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: was almost shocking. It was a beautiful statement, but it 740 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: was shocking. It caught me off guard. You said, I 741 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: know it doesn't seem like it, but we all love 742 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: each other. When did that love come about? Because if, 743 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: for damn sure didn't come in the season, did it 744 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: pop off in the group chat? Did y'all slide each 745 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 1: other's damn the love fest come about? I guess. Um. 746 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm the oldest of five kids and I 747 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: have four sisters, and we fight and we say whatever 748 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: we want, and we are honest with each other. And 749 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: right after we have you know, you can you can 750 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 1: hog and you can move on. Just because you disagree 751 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: with someone doesn't mean you don't have love for them. Yeah. Um, 752 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: while we were filming and where we're all at now 753 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: is a very different place, and um, we've all learned 754 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: from that. And we also you know, like I wasn't perfect. 755 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: No one was perfect. Um, and I think we just 756 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: have grace for each other now, um Hindsights twenty twenty. 757 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: I think you are and you learn from it just 758 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: you you know, like it's something you can never replicate. 759 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: It's a group of women that you know, no one 760 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: else in the world will get to know exactly what 761 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: happened in the house. We just have a bond because 762 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, that makes sense PTSD a little, you know, Yeah, yeah, 763 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: experience you bond. I'm interested in the gear from now 764 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: who all will be close because that's always the thing 765 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: that's probably it's guess we'll see real quick before I 766 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 1: let you go. Yeah, will we see you in Paradise 767 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: or summer games. It's a good question. I don't know 768 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: would you do it if you were asked? Um, we 769 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: need pay not say no, Okay, I mean I'm open 770 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: to it, you know. I think I had so much 771 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: fun filming. I love to this experience. Yeah. I want 772 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: to hear and see more of you. So all right, well, 773 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: thank you for being here, all right, sitting in the 774 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: hot seat right now, somebody I've been so eager to 775 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: talk to, missus Bammy, Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. Thanks 776 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: for having me, Thank you for being here. Now, the 777 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: theme of this is without struggle, there is no progress, 778 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: which is a tattoo that you have on you. So 779 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: let's talk about the struggle, okay, and hopefully there was 780 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: some progress after today, because congratulations for surviving women. Tell all, 781 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: I know it was a lot for you. I'm going 782 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: to start there and let you talk. How do you 783 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: feel like all of us aired out what we need 784 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: to air out? And I got my point across, whether 785 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: they wanted to listen to it or not, and we're 786 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: ready to move past this. You know. I feel like 787 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: you have that type of personality, like you can just 788 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: let things roll off your backs, don't really take it 789 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: to heart. I don't take offense too much, really, and 790 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 1: I think it's a waste of energy to just hold 791 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: a grudge on something. I what I do is I'm 792 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 1: gonna let myself do with it, feel the emotions, and 793 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: then get over it and move on. Why do you 794 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: think that the girls came at you so harsh? I 795 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: think because I am a very strong personality and the 796 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: loudest one in the room, and with that comes with 797 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: controversy and people are going to disagree with that, and 798 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: that's okay, And honestly, I'm glad I started a conversation 799 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: because I'm here to challenge people. You know, it's going 800 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable, man, I'm okay with that. Do you 801 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: feel like you apologize to people tonight? Because I feel 802 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: like some people came in expecting an apology from you 803 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: from either what they saw or what they heard or 804 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,439 Speaker 1: I don't know what went down on the group chat whatever. Yeah, 805 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: I between me and Kelsey, we know the situation. Okay. 806 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm not here to say face and apologize just to apologize, 807 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: like we've already talked about it and it's between me 808 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: and her and it's been resolved. Okay, So I'll go 809 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: off of that. Were you frustrated rehashing a conversation that 810 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: you guys already had off camera? Absolutely, and again I 811 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: think it needs to be said on camera and relived again, 812 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 1: and it does suck for both parties. You know, we 813 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: don't like to come at each other that way. It. 814 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: I do respect that these girls, and I think the 815 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 1: reason that why we all butt heads is because we're 816 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: all very dominant, passionate people. Do you have any regrets 817 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: this season? I don't really have any regrets. I mean, 818 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: I tried my best. What you see is kind of 819 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 1: what you get, and I'm not no matter what I think. 820 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: It looks villainous because I am the loudest person in 821 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: the room and I started an argument, but I could 822 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: have farted and he if he canceled the part cocktail party, 823 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: people would have blamed me for farting. You know, It's 824 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: just like because that was the person to blame at 825 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: the time. Well, I talked to she Anne and she 826 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: had nothing but positive things to say about you. Anybody 827 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: very yell, very close. Yeah, we are very close. I 828 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: love that girl to death. But what were you saying. 829 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: Anyone who knows you, Anyone who knows me knows that 830 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm not a malicious person, you know. I mean, even 831 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: ask McKenna and kel think they'll say as well, I'm 832 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: not a nasty human being. We are going to disagree 833 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: with things, but that's the beauty of friendships, Like I'm 834 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: not going to agree with everything just because you're my friend. Well, 835 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: Lexie Cassette, she said, you guys all love each other absolutely, 836 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: and I think we were shocked, but we saw it 837 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: in a moment when we had that very serious conversation 838 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 1: where we were talking about being bullied and spewing hate, 839 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: and you guys ran to each other and came to 840 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,760 Speaker 1: each other, and I was really really happy when you spoke. 841 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 1: I wanted to hear from you because I saw the 842 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: post that you talked about about growing up and how 843 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: you felt, and even something you said when you were 844 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: we talked about on the podcast when you were going 845 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: home in the car and you talked about and he 846 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 1: wanted a blonde trophy wife. And it rocked me, Tammy 847 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: when you said that, because I felt you, and in 848 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: that moment, I felt like you've been misunderstood all season, 849 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 1: and I just really want to give you an opportunity 850 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: to talk about that, and I also want to know 851 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: how this conversation and if at all, has helped you. 852 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: I am actually so happy. I wasn't expecting this, and 853 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you came on here and talked 854 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: about it, because I think for too long people were 855 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: getting away with these nasty comments, and it's it's a 856 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: hate crime, and it's not okay for people to hide 857 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: behind a screen and say these things who don't even 858 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: know me or know us, like they say nasty things 859 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 1: to us, then we would ever say to each other 860 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: that you said that. That's a that was a really 861 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: powerful point. Absolutely, and that just says more about like, yeah, 862 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: we are going to disagree, but I would I would 863 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: never come at someone's character. I would never come at 864 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: someone's like race or how they look. Um. I think 865 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: that when I did see this trophy wife comment, like, yeah, 866 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: throughout my entire life, I grew up in a very 867 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 1: Caucasian community. I wanted to be this all American girl 868 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: so badly. Yeah, and I could never be that. And 869 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: because I can't change it, I'm I'm as Asian as 870 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: it gets. Okay, Like, you're beautiful, Thank you guys. She's 871 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: literally shining. I don't know how they let her wear 872 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: this shirt on stage. It looks stunning your production, it 873 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: looks stunning, but it is against the dress code. I 874 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: was blinding myself with this top. But you like, you're beautiful, 875 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: And we said that on the podcast. I do, and 876 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: I like, And it took a long time for me 877 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: to get there. Like again, like I wanted to buy 878 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: all the clothes that these girls had and be who 879 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: these girls were. And I think for a long time 880 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 1: I envied I wanted to be blonde, hair blue. I'd 881 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: so badly, like I would cry my eyes out to 882 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: my mom and she's like, spin or your Asian, there's 883 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: nothing you can do. But I think that what you 884 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: said is so powerful, and even the social media post 885 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: that you had, because you are representing Yeah someone and 886 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: it's like I can speak about being an African American woman, 887 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: but I can't speak to what you went through and 888 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: your struggles. And I hope that even though we had 889 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: that conversation, that you knew that you're not alone. And 890 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: I hope it howers you to represent Yeah. And I 891 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: hope that I wish I heard this when I was 892 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: struggling with the racial thing when I was a kid, 893 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: because there is people like me out there. We're going 894 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: through the same thing. And it sucks when you feel 895 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 1: so isolated and alone in the sea of people because 896 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: no one else is going to be able to understand 897 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 1: unless they have experienced what you and I have experienced. Right, 898 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: But you're not alone. I know that. I love that. 899 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: I feel like what you said was so powerful, Like, 900 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, we don't know who the next Batchelorette's going 901 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: to be. If you were asked, would you do it. 902 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 1: I mean, of course I would love the opportunity too, 903 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: because I think people just see this one side of 904 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 1: me and they they judge me on one minute of 905 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: time that they think is defining who I am as 906 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: a person. But did they forget like throughout the entire season, 907 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,479 Speaker 1: like I was never that. Yeah, I'm not a villain, 908 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm not a mean person. I have a lot of 909 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: composure to me and I have a lot of stories 910 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: to tell, and I think that I would love the 911 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: opportunity to become Bachelorrette. Well, I would love for the 912 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 1: opportunity for you to redeem yourself. So whether it's Bachelotte Paradise, 913 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: Summer Games, redemption for Tammy, Yeah, the redemption not even 914 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: like where I have to like change who I am, 915 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: but like the fact that people need to see the 916 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: full three sixty of me before they can chat judgment 917 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: you know, honestly they can on other shows. So right, Well, 918 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm happy that you were able to speak to us 919 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: today and if you can hear your voice and see 920 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: another side of you, I know I have on Women 921 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: Tell All and then just sitting here with you today, 922 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 1: So thank you, Thank you for bringing the awareness because 923 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: it was absibly better. It was. It truly was. Thank 924 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,760 Speaker 1: you for being so vulnerable. Absolutely all right, thank you. Last, 925 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 1: but not least, we have Victoria pe on Bachelor Happy 926 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: Hour in the house, in the house. How are you doing? 927 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 1: You survived? Women? Tell all you see. Here's the thing. 928 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,919 Speaker 1: You were quiet. At first, I thought, you know, we're 929 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 1: not really hearing a lot from Victoria Pea. And then 930 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: Chris said, helloa on Victoria Pea, and then it was bam, 931 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: it was all on you. So how do you feel, 932 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: am Um? You know, I I don't like conflict and 933 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: I don't like confrontation, but I'm learning to work through 934 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: it and learning to grow through it and to confront it. 935 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: Had on and I tried my best to you about tonight, 936 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,839 Speaker 1: and I think that and that I was, you know, 937 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 1: I'd better at communicating than than what I did before, 938 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: and that I I think I squashed a little bit 939 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah. So anyway, like like Savannah had it 940 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: in for you, and I talked to Aliah and Alia said, 941 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: y'all have mutual respect for each other and it's kind 942 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: of like a very mature situation, which I think is 943 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: great because we don't always see that. We didn't see 944 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: that this season in viewers. So it's nice to hear 945 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: that you guys have reconciled and you're letting bigones. We bigones. 946 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: Savannah still has it in for you, but not everyone. 947 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,320 Speaker 1: Not everyone likes you, right, But she said you talking circles. 948 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: So I feel like I want to give you the 949 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: opportunity to explain You're like, just like, be very matter 950 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: of fact about what it is. So I'm going to 951 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,919 Speaker 1: ask you very direct questions. Go ahead, I'm ready. Because 952 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 1: did you guys know each other more than three hours? Yes? 953 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: Did you have fun in Vegas? I had fun in Vegas? 954 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: Where did you stay? I stayed at ship? Where do 955 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 1: we stay? Treasure Island? Right, Treasure Island? Did you room together? No? Okay, 956 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 1: two separate rooms? Is there picture evidence? There's picture evidence? Okay, yeah? No. 957 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 1: Shame and the fact that I knew her, I had 958 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: verbal wise at here that we knew one another. I 959 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 1: as far as being friends, I couldn't tell you her 960 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: favorite color, what her mom's name is. Yeah, you were car, 961 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 1: she drives, where she went to school, what she does 962 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 1: for a living. I mean, honestly, I know we weren't close. 963 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: This is what I'll equated to you. Look, you guys 964 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: are all close right now, but a year from now, 965 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,240 Speaker 1: you're not going to be the same. Yeah, it's sad, 966 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 1: but we won't be on the same level that you 967 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: were before. So it's like we all went through this 968 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: experience like a paget. I know her, I've been around her, 969 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: but I'm not close with her. She's not one of 970 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: my close experiends see see how we cleared that up, 971 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: and just like that, Yeah, so what's next for you? 972 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: What are you doing right now? So? I work full 973 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: time as a nurse. I've been a nurse for the 974 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: last four and a half five years, so still doing that. 975 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't think that reality TV. But I have a 976 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: future of Matt. I can't see myself. I can't see 977 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 1: myself doing that in the future, but um, I hope 978 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: that that of is somewhere in between. Well, that is 979 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: the most honest thing I think that anybody has said. 980 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: So thank you for that on this podcast, because you 981 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: don't see people come from the show and say, you 982 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: know what, I don't think it's a there's a future 983 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: in it for me. So you wouldn't do Paradise, I 984 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't do summer games I'm just saying that I wouldn't 985 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: so my mom nom made me for the Bachelor in 986 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 1: the first place. I'm like, hey mom, yeah, hey mom. Yeah. Anyway, 987 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: but yeah, so Syndy nominated me, and this is just 988 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 1: this has been a great experience and learning experience. But yeah, 989 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,439 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know it's next, but I will 990 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,399 Speaker 1: say I'm I'm not. I don't know it's next, but 991 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if I will do. You got to 992 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 1: think about it. I'm thinking about it, about it. You're 993 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: going to weigh out your options. Do you have any 994 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: regrets then? From the season, You know, I wish that 995 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: and there were times I wish I'd been more direct 996 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: like you and I I wish I had been better 997 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 1: at communicating. But I'm learning how to communicate better. I 998 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: am an empathetic person, and I think it's part of 999 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: my nature and who I am as a human being, 1000 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: and it's part of my profession obviously, in and just 1001 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: the way that I grew up to just kind of 1002 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: like brushed off and give someone kindnes seen grace and 1003 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 1: kind of take a hit and that, and I'm learning 1004 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: that it's okay to see that for myself and it's 1005 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: okay to have healthy confrontation and conflict and to work 1006 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: through that. And I think it's okay to say I 1007 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: made a mistake. Yeah, I own it. Yeah, I didn't 1008 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: handle it the best at all? Can say that coming 1009 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: from this opportunity. Yeah, and I did it. There were 1010 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: there many things I'm like, oh man, I really could 1011 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: have handled that different. And I've beating myself up about it, 1012 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,320 Speaker 1: and I've gotten hate mail because of it, and I've 1013 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 1: really but it's been challenging for me, but it's also 1014 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: been a growing experience and a learning experience through that Dinola. 1015 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 1: Before this, Yeah, I never denied that were we friends. Know, 1016 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 1: I'd say we were more acquaintances, but I should have 1017 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: clarified more and I should have communicated more with her 1018 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: and yours defense Peter doesn't always ask the most direct questions. 1019 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 1: So that's why I was like, you know what, We're 1020 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: just gonna go right to it. Wht it half the 1021 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: way so any like everybody knows, there's no more questions 1022 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 1: about it. It is what it is. If they moved on, 1023 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 1: so you guys need to move on as well. And absolutely, 1024 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 1: and I think I will say everyone move on, and 1025 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: I hope that everyone treats Ala with kindness and respect 1026 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,399 Speaker 1: and love and generosity regardless. There's no side to choose 1027 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, and we're there. Yeah, and 1028 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 1: you know what's been great, Like women women till all 1029 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: started off real high, like on a level three hundred 1030 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 1: and five, and then things just kind of like died 1031 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: down a bit, and then you saw that there was 1032 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: this camaraderie, camaraderie between you guys, and I think that 1033 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: that was special because as a viewer, we saw none 1034 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 1: of that, and so I think all you guys all 1035 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 1: was just like you know what, Hindsights twenty twenty. We 1036 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: made some mistakes, but we all went through a shared experience, 1037 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: and you're going to hold on to that. We were 1038 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 1: all different and we all have our differences, but we 1039 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 1: could all see it immunity and in hand in hand 1040 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:58,280 Speaker 1: say that we are that we stand together against tape 1041 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: and against a better future. And um, I can like 1042 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: buy con sibon gans. You know, I don't even want 1043 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 1: to ask you another question. That was beautiful the way 1044 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: you just ended that. I was going to ask you 1045 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: about the season, but it's like, you know what, Yeah, 1046 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 1: like let's just be better. Yeah, I think that we 1047 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: can always see better. There's always room for growth. And um, 1048 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,839 Speaker 1: like I said, this is challenged me to be better 1049 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 1: and UM, I don't know it's ahead, but I know 1050 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: that this has challenged me to be a better Victoria Pee. 1051 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,279 Speaker 1: And I'm going to be a better human being, a 1052 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 1: better spouse and a better friend and uh because of 1053 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 1: all of this. So thank you for sharing that, and 1054 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,320 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the podcast. Thank you. Now, 1055 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: I lied to you, guys, and I don't do this often, 1056 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 1: but when I do, it's for a good reason. I 1057 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: told you my final guest was Victoria, but it's actually 1058 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: mister Webber Peter. Welcome again. That's how happy are You're 1059 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 1: becoming a regular? Yeah, what's going on? It's good to 1060 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,799 Speaker 1: be here. Thanks for having me. Can we have an 1061 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 1: honest talk? I would love that. I'm upset why because 1062 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:56,799 Speaker 1: I was rooting for you. We were all this is 1063 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 1: why I remember when we talked and I was like, man, Peter, 1064 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 1: out of anybody who since I've been watching, I want 1065 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: you to find your happiness and to find love. And 1066 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: this season has been frustrating for me to watch, so 1067 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 1: I can only imagine what it was like for you 1068 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 1: to be in it, and I guess I just like 1069 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: am frustrated. I'm frtrating for you. That's why I'm saying 1070 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm upset because you know, at this point, I have 1071 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 1: no idea what decision that you made. And Chris Tonight said, 1072 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 1: you don't even know what the decision is, which i've 1073 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: as a lawyer and being logical, I'm like, Okay, so 1074 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 1: that means maybe this is this, this is this, and 1075 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: we can't figure it out. But watching this last episode 1076 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,799 Speaker 1: and you being so honest and forthcoming about how you 1077 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 1: feel about who you are, it was very frustrating for 1078 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 1: me to watch you put all yourself out there and 1079 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: then to get this tidbit of information at the very end, 1080 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: and I'm very curious as to how you felt about it. 1081 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:04,839 Speaker 1: Are you talking abo with Victoria, talking about with Madison? Okay, 1082 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: so maybe I should like, I guess I'm more so 1083 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 1: saying you have been very upfront and honest about like 1084 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 1: what you're going through and how you feel, maybe even 1085 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,400 Speaker 1: to a fault, but that's like the beauty of you. 1086 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,840 Speaker 1: It's a gift and a curse. And for you to 1087 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: get this information at the very end, which I feel 1088 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: like doesn't allow you to fully have the right mindset 1089 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: as you're going into week nine, which is insanely important 1090 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 1: and just to set the stage for everybody. Week nine 1091 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 1: is important, not because it's fantasy sweet week, and that's 1092 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 1: what it's titled, entitled titled, it's that it's the time 1093 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: that you get off camera to really get to know 1094 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 1: somebody with no one else around. It is precious, precious time, 1095 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 1: and your mind is all over the place for multiple reasons, 1096 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: and you're trying to be sensitive to how everyone else 1097 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 1: is feeling. But at the same time, you need to 1098 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 1: kind of know everything, and you didn't until the very 1099 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 1: last second. So I'm really curious to know how you 1100 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 1: felt in that moment when you got that information that 1101 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 1: maybe you could have gotten I don't know week one, Yeah, 1102 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know realistically if that's a week 1103 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: once I have conversation, but yes, in a perfect world, 1104 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,879 Speaker 1: I definitely would have. I wish I could have known 1105 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,320 Speaker 1: that sooner on no doubt, because that made that week 1106 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: the hardest week of my life, and that was not 1107 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,799 Speaker 1: easy at all. But I will say, like I told 1108 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 1: all of the women from the very first night to 1109 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 1: remember that the toast, I said, be real with me, 1110 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: share whatever is on your heart. I don't care if 1111 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 1: you think I'm gonna like it or not. Just I 1112 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 1: need to know that and you need to be able 1113 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 1: to express that to me. And that's all that Madison 1114 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: was doing in that moment. Yes, I would have loved 1115 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: for her to have done it way sooner. I would have, 1116 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 1: but I can't fault her, and if I do, I'm 1117 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,399 Speaker 1: only a hypocrite of her sharing what was on her heart, 1118 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 1: and she did it in the most There was no 1119 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,320 Speaker 1: one easy way for her to do that. Man. I 1120 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 1: remember that conversation like it was yesterday. It was tough 1121 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 1: for her and she was struggling and she didn't want 1122 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,919 Speaker 1: it to come off like she was telling me what 1123 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 1: I had to do, But she was simply telling me 1124 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 1: where would put her if I made certain decisions, and 1125 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 1: that I have to respect. And I can't follow her 1126 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 1: for You talked about her when she shared that information 1127 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 1: with you about the ultimatum. Yeah, I don't want to 1128 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 1: say ultimatum, but you didn't feel like she was giving 1129 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: you an ultimatum. But she was sharing what was on 1130 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 1: her heart in that moment in the hangar when it 1131 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,800 Speaker 1: was down to the final three. Do you ask yourself 1132 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: the question, why didn't she also share that she was 1133 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 1: saving herself for marriage in that moment? Yeah? Yeah, I 1134 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,840 Speaker 1: don't know why she didn't decide to share that with me. 1135 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,359 Speaker 1: I truly do. Whether it's right or not, I feel 1136 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 1: like maybe that would have that would have meant something 1137 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 1: to me. I actually agree with you knowing that information. 1138 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 1: I like when we talk about it on the podcast, 1139 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 1: I make the argument that I think that that information 1140 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 1: was vital to you to know what decisions you were 1141 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,399 Speaker 1: going to make going into that week. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. 1142 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,840 Speaker 1: And I obviously her and I we have different viewpoints 1143 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 1: on that, and that's fine, you know, we don't have 1144 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: to be like in every single regard. But um yeah, 1145 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,399 Speaker 1: I wish she would have expressed that to me there, 1146 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 1: and I think, yeah, it would have had a little 1147 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 1: bit more gravity there, And um, but what are you 1148 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: gonna do? She didn't. Yeah, so tell me audience, Well, Peter, now, 1149 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: I have personally asked to be placed next to Barb 1150 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 1: at the finale. I thought she was going to be 1151 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,439 Speaker 1: here at Women Tell All. She was not friends honey 1152 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:32,400 Speaker 1: barriers back in the day. Um yeah, So what happens. 1153 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 1: Am I gonna be mad? I'm I'm upset because I 1154 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 1: want whatever happens. I'm like passionate, So it's not an 1155 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 1: upset like I'm angry. I like you. Yeah, you know, 1156 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 1: I like you. I wanted to work for you, and 1157 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 1: I want you to be I mean, you can be 1158 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 1: happy even if you choose yourself at the end of this. 1159 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,720 Speaker 1: But I just like when I see what's happening towards 1160 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: the end. I entitled our um he's thinking entitled I 1161 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: titled our podcast for last week computer Kesh a break. 1162 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,320 Speaker 1: It was a subtitle, just give him one week loss answers, 1163 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: no answers on Peter. It's it's and I say, I mean, 1164 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,400 Speaker 1: I've said it a million times. Things happen until the 1165 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 1: last second, and um, apparently they still are. We'll see 1166 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,440 Speaker 1: about that. But yeah, it's just very difficult for me 1167 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. Um and yeah, the whole 1168 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 1: stuff with the fantasy sweet week, and that's just that's 1169 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 1: set the tone for a lot of stuff. It was. 1170 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,560 Speaker 1: It was super tough. But I really can't say, like 1171 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 1: right now, where I'm at, I am happy and I 1172 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 1: am in a good spot, and so I'm not going 1173 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: to be mad at the finale? Is that what you're 1174 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,919 Speaker 1: telling me? Am I going to be mad at this point? 1175 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,320 Speaker 1: Everyone has so many opinions and you can't please everyone, 1176 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 1: is what I'm learning. So I don't know, but we're 1177 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 1: talking about me. We're worried about me. Okay, big sis here, 1178 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 1: big sis. Um, you know I think I can. I 1179 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 1: can sense you know, some overprotective tendencies here, which I 1180 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,240 Speaker 1: appreciate and I love that, so thank you, um, because 1181 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 1: I know you want the best for me. And um, 1182 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm in a good spot, so I think. Okay, I 1183 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 1: think that'll be good. I can. I can hold on 1184 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 1: to that. Okay, that'll get me through till the finale. Yeah, 1185 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,319 Speaker 1: come see, come see me though after that though, Okay, well, 1186 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 1: and you're not what I says, you're not going to 1187 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: You're not going mad about me not falling my heart 1188 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,880 Speaker 1: and doing what I needed to do. For sure, No, 1189 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,720 Speaker 1: I won't. I won't be mad at you for following 1190 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 1: your heart, but we'll just yeah, well we'll put a 1191 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,279 Speaker 1: pin in it there now. What I will say about tonight, though, 1192 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 1: what was really refreshing was how nice the women wore it. 1193 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 1: Were you shocked? Yes, I was why, well, because I 1194 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 1: mean I had never been in a room with that 1195 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 1: many exces until then. I walk out, and I had 1196 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 1: a lot of nerves coming into I just didn't know 1197 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 1: how they'd kind of received me. You know, it's always 1198 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: weird when you end a relationship and that's the first 1199 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 1: time you see them. But no, I felt the love 1200 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: like crazy from them and just really sweet kind words 1201 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 1: of encouragement. That was really special and beautiful to me. 1202 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 1: And I thought that was awesome. I'll say it was 1203 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 1: awesome too, because the women we just know didn't really 1204 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,400 Speaker 1: get along and there seemed to be so much cattiness, 1205 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 1: but they all could agree you were the common denominator 1206 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,480 Speaker 1: of what was good about the season for them, So 1207 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 1: I thought that that was special. Like people can call 1208 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 1: you indecisive, I've said it myself. Yeah, but at the 1209 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: end of the day, whatever you did with them, because 1210 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: of the way they reacted tonight, you did it right. Yeah, 1211 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 1: and that was Yeah, that means a lot. Those words 1212 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 1: mean a lot. I truly try my best to really 1213 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 1: as much as I could give each relationship my full attention. 1214 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 1: When I was with those women, and you know, seeing 1215 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 1: that they kind of they saw that as well, and 1216 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 1: expressed that to me that meant a lot, and I 1217 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: could feel good about that. Well, I really want to 1218 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 1: keep asking you questions, but you're not giving me what 1219 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 1: I want because I want you to tell me how 1220 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 1: it is. That's all you want. And I just I 1221 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 1: just really thought we were on a different level, Peter. 1222 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 1: I've been invited to come over to the family dinner 1223 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 1: r on a podcast, So don't ask me when we're 1224 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,440 Speaker 1: on a podcast. We're noos here, what are you talking about? No, 1225 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 1: but you do seem happy, and I you know, I 1226 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 1: always wish the best for you, and I guess I'll 1227 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 1: just have to wait till next week like everybody else. 1228 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 1: It's okay, it's this truly might be the first kind 1229 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 1: of unspoiled in a while, so you know what it 1230 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 1: already is. Well, I hope, I hope they enjoy it, 1231 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 1: and I'm sure there'll be no shortage of opinions, just 1232 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 1: like the rest of this journey. But it's something that 1233 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 1: I'll always remember and very grateful for. Well, at the 1234 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,880 Speaker 1: end of the day, I know you will handle it 1235 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 1: well like you always do. Thank you, thanks for being here. Well, 1236 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: you guys, that was women tell all, we brought you 1237 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 1: some great guests, more guests than I even thought they 1238 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 1: were going to come through here, and people were actually excited. 1239 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 1: I guess they haven't been listening to the podcast. No, 1240 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 1: but everything was great. It was all love. I really 1241 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 1: enjoyed having great conversation with the women. I loved getting 1242 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 1: some insight from Peter. And I mean, next week, you guys, 1243 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 1: is the finale. I have no idea what's going to happen. 1244 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 1: I know it's going to be good. I know you 1245 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 1: better tune in and come back here. I have no 1246 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 1: idea who's going to be sitting in the hot seat, 1247 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 1: but that's because we don't know how it iss. So 1248 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 1: stay tuned. Thank you for joining, and I feel like 1249 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 1: I should say you're welcome.