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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Puzzler Podcast the Dink shot in your

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Speaker 1: Pickleball Rally. I apologize Renee for the pickle ball reference.

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Speaker 1: Well it was there. I'm your host, A J. Jacobs,

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined as always by Chief Puzzle Officer Greg

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Speaker 1: Pliska and our guest. As you might have heard, the

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Speaker 1: legendary Renee Stubbs, analyst, ESPN commentator, host of the Renee

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Speaker 1: Stubbs Tennis podcast on iHeart, and winner of sixty doubles champions.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Renee.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks for having me again.

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Speaker 1: Guys, oh we love it well. I gave you a

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Speaker 1: puzzle yesterday, but today we have Chief Puzzle Officer Greg

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Speaker 1: Pliska in the driver's seats, So Greg take it away.

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Speaker 3: All right, Thank you, AJ and and Renee and AJ.

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Speaker 3: I know AJ hasn't seen this puzzle. So this one

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Speaker 3: is you can play together if you want. It is

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Speaker 3: a game we call this that or the other. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to name an item and you have to

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Speaker 3: decide which of three categories it belongs to. And today's

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Speaker 3: categories are places in Australia, yoga, poses, and foods. So

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Speaker 3: each of these things is either a place in Australia,

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Speaker 3: a yoga pose, or a food. So for example, if

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Speaker 3: I said Kuber p D, you would know immediately. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure that that is a Australian is the famous Opal

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Speaker 3: mining town in Australia. Of course, all these won't be

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Speaker 3: quite as obvious as that, but I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: Damn FYI that was not obvious to me, so see, you.

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Speaker 3: Know I'm slanting it towards Renee.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough?

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Speaker 3: All right, So it's either yoga, yoga pose, food, or

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Speaker 3: a place in Australia.

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Speaker 1: And I don't do yoga, but I do eat food,

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Speaker 1: so do I I know?

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Speaker 2: Down dog?

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Speaker 1: All right, yeah, Renee, we're gonna have to puzzle this

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Speaker 1: one out together.

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Speaker 3: This is yoga. You know. I'll tell you right up front.

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Speaker 3: These are all gonna sound ridiculous. That's the whole point.

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Speaker 3: No offense to you know, people who like food, yoga

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Speaker 3: or places in Australia. But these all sound pretty silly,

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Speaker 3: all right. Number one? Cowface? Cowface?

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Renee?

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Speaker 2: I think that's probably I mean, I hope it's not

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Speaker 2: a yoga post, but I have a feeling it might

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope it's not a food. I mean even

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Speaker 1: I'm a vegetarian, but yeah, my kids I think.

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Speaker 3: Might eat that. All right, so tongue no, Renee's got it.

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Speaker 3: It is a yoga post, nicely done. It's where you

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Speaker 3: have your arms sort of crossed in front of your face.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure why that looks like a cow, but

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Speaker 3: that's what they call it. Face got Yeah, here's another one.

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Speaker 3: Bubble and squeak, bubble and squeak, bubble and squeak.

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Speaker 2: Fairly certain it's not in Australia. I fairly certain I

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Speaker 2: have not heard that in a yoga position. So I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna have to say food.

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Speaker 3: That's a good. It's well deduced. Yes, it is a food.

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Speaker 3: It's common in the UK. It's it's cooked potatoes and cabbage.

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Speaker 3: And it's called that because of the sound it makes

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Speaker 3: while it's in the pan.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Okay, bubble and squeak. Okay, an amanopia food

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Speaker 1: we need more of?

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Speaker 3: All right, you're doing well. Your next one dolphin plank.

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Speaker 2: Hmm, Well, I mean I would have to think that

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Speaker 1: Elbows bend.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but I like that. I thought you could have

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Speaker 3: guessed it was a food, Like I'll have the dolphin plank.

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Speaker 3: Can you get this big slab.

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Speaker 2: Of absolutely not to eat dolphin plank?

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Speaker 3: We do not eat dolphins.

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Speaker 2: No, there are friends. Fish are our friends.

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Speaker 3: As they said, absolutely, all right, here's another one. Mossy

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Speaker 2: Mmm, mossy nipple bent.

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Speaker 1: You do bend things in yoga, and nipple is a

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Speaker 2: A It's definitely not food, let's hope not. So I

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Speaker 3: That's a very good guess. Yes, it is a town

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Speaker 2: No, no, wonder, I haven't heard of it exactly.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know I will be surprise after kober Pet.

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Speaker 3: These are all towns you may not have heard of

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Speaker 2: Well, that was just I was a deduction of hoping

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Speaker 2: So that was one a guess in that respect.

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Speaker 1: Well, in Australia, do we know why did you look

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Speaker 3: Now? I don't know why it's called that.

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Speaker 3: Involved, right, And it's a bend bend is it? Comment?

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Speaker 3: You can be in town.

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Speaker 2: Names and Australia, we do name some things kind of randomly, sure,

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Speaker 3: Random, you know it is? You're You're not wrong because

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Speaker 3: Is that a food, a town or a yoga?

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Speaker 2: I guess it could be a food, but be a

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Speaker 3: It is a yoga pose, sort of sitting with a

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have the one leg pigeon, definitely.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I would choose that on the menu either.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not gonna have the one leg pigeon today.

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Speaker 3: All right, how about Dutch baby?

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Speaker 2: I like that you laugh every single time.

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Speaker 3: I like it too. It makes me happy.

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Speaker 2: I think that that's probably food because I'm thinking that

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Speaker 2: it's like a it's like, I don't know, like a

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Speaker 3: You are good, we deduce these. It's so good. It

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Speaker 3: is a food. Oh it's a kind of baked pancake.

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Speaker 2: Dutch baby. I can't imagine someone saying to me in

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Speaker 3: Anything's possible. No, it is. It's a food. It actually

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Speaker 3: looks really delicious. I was looking at pictures of this

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Speaker 2: It sounds like a sausage roll.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, similar to a sausage roll.

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Speaker 2: Oh there we go. See. Yeah, well if you said that,

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Speaker 1: Well, I will say this. I wrote a book about

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Speaker 1: politics and one of the greatest things that we need

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Speaker 1: to import from Australia is this a meat pie?

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, I political problems pie.

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Speaker 1: Just related to that. The democracy sausage. You don't know it?

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Speaker 1: Did I make it up? I thought, according to my

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Speaker 1: Australian sources, on election day, you you make sausages and

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Speaker 1: then eat them. It's like one big barbecue.

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Speaker 2: Well that's why I haven't been in Australia for an

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Well, now you have incentive.

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Speaker 2: To go back. Yeah, I just I live in the

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Speaker 3: No sausages being served. Yeah, sure, the whole process is

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Speaker 3: a bit of a sausage.

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Speaker 2: Making press exactly.

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Speaker 3: All right, all right? How about this one monkey.

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Speaker 2: Mia, Monkey Miya?

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Speaker 3: I love watching you. Imagine if I'm in a yoga

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Speaker 2: It somebody named Miya that had a pose named Arphens?

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Speaker 2: Definitely not food. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards Australia monkey Mia. Do you have monkeys

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Speaker 2: No, I think we import them, don't we. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean we have monkeys, but they're in the zoo.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's a that was a guess.

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Speaker 3: It's a tourist destination north of Perth where there's a

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Speaker 2: We're very weird. We're very wed. We don't make a

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Speaker 2: we'll look it up after this. It sounds fun.

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Speaker 3: Pet the dolphins. Yeah, it looks amazing. All right, let's

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Speaker 3: do a few more of these. Embryo in womb.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that is well, that sounds gross.

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Speaker 1: Does sound gross?

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Speaker 3: It's just a fact of life embryo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe I hoped to god it's not food,

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Speaker 2: so we'll take that out. And you just can't imagine

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Speaker 2: So I'm just going to guess and say, Yoga, you're correct.

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Speaker 3: It is a post.

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Speaker 2: Thank god you said no, it's in Australia. I said, that's.

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Speaker 4: Its crazy crazy, all right, I'll do three more of these.

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Speaker 3: I've got boobs flat.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna guess here that would be something that

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Speaker 3: Correct. And I'm sure you can guess which part.

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Speaker 2: Of Australia the nullible planes tas Maasmania.

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Speaker 3: Yes it's tas Madia again.

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Speaker 2: Boobs flat, Well that makes no sense, but anyway, there

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Speaker 2: you go. That was a good guess. I could just imagine,

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Speaker 2: like the nullible planes which is very flat. It's the

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Speaker 2: desert thinking, well, here's boobs flat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, it's all flat. This is boobs flat. It's

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Speaker 3: you know, thighs flat.

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Speaker 1: You have nipple, you have boobs. They're very focused.

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Speaker 3: The emom fainted.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, the imm like I am.

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Speaker 3: A I am am like the them fainted. The yoga pose?

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Speaker 2: Well, surely it can't be a food. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I am baffled. I mean that is a weird name

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna grew I think yoga.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick yoga. I think I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: But that's right. It is a pose that I told you.

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Speaker 3: It is a food a food. It is a Turkish dish.

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Speaker 3: It's a stuffed plant and it's called this. That's exactly sure.

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Speaker 3: That when it was served to the e mom, he fainted.

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Speaker 3: The question is did he faint because it was so delicious?

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Speaker 3: Oh right? Did he faint because he ate too much

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Speaker 3: It made him sick and he died.

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Speaker 2: The fourth thought, and the imam got food poisoning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it actually sounds really delicious. It's like a

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Speaker 3: stuffed eggplant with onions and tomatoes. I think I'm like that,

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Speaker 3: I want that. I'm going to order that.

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Speaker 3: Your last one to finish off the day, toad in

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Speaker 1: I feel I've heard this too.

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Speaker 2: I think that's food. I think that's something again because

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is. It is a food toad in the

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Speaker 2: So it's like a you know, that's called what we

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Speaker 3: I love that it's called toad in the hole. There's

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Speaker 3: Well, these pigs in a blanket is the meat of

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Speaker 3: Pigs in a blanket embryo and that's yea.

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Speaker 2: That definitely I was definitely not a food.

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Speaker 1: I guess they are trying to market it by making

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Speaker 5: No, it's uh yeah, it's it's in a can death death.

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Speaker 5: It's death something juice. No, very clever, it's something death

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Speaker 3: And there's one I did, sorry, Arian, there's one I

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Speaker 3: in Australia actually called Well it wasn't there last year? No, really, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that is when did you I know, you

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Speaker 1: I mean, you are you're you're younger than me, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well know, if an outback steakhouse needs me to

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Speaker 3: Sure absolutely understood.

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Speaker 1: Uh well, thank you for coming on and lending your

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Speaker 1: voice to the Puzzler Podcast. You were terrific and I

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Speaker 1: hope now you are convinced that you are a puzzler

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Speaker 1: at heart. And Greg, do you have an extra credit

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Speaker 1: for the folks at home?

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Speaker 3: You know I do, and I decided I'm going to

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Speaker 3: do three extra credits. So you've got feathered peacock, You've

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Speaker 3: got angels on horseback, and you've got mamunkukum Purana.

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Speaker 2: All right, I know all three of those no way.

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Speaker 1: I'm impressed. I know zero three. Well, thank you, Renee.

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Speaker 1: We look forward to hearing more about tennis and paddle.

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Speaker 1: I love that you're a padel fan, and we won't

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Speaker 1: say the other tennis racket sport.

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Speaker 2: No more peace, no.

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Speaker 3: More mentioning mentioning it on this show ever.

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Speaker 1: And everyone, please go to your favorite podcast platform and

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Speaker 1: for more puzzling puzzles that will puzzle you puzzling me.

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Speaker 3: Hey, puzzlers, it's Greg Pliska here up from the Puzzle

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Speaker 3: Lab with the extra credit from our previous episode. Renee

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Speaker 3: Stubbs joined us for a little tennis puzzle puzzle where

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Speaker 3: every answer has one of the words from tennis scoring love, fifteen, thirty,

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Speaker 3: or forty. And you know we left out deuce. I

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Speaker 3: feel bad about deuce. We need to do a deuce

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Speaker 3: puzzle sometime. But in the meantime, here was your extra credit. Clue.

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Speaker 3: If this is another name for getting some sleep, that's

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Speaker 3: not love, that's not fifteen, that's not thirty, that's forty winks.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy your forty winks tonight. And wake up refreshed for

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Speaker 3: some more puzzling puzzles that will puzzle you puzzlingly