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Speaker 6: First off, I want to say shout out to Jody Allen.

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Speaker 6: We have the best defense in the world, we got

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Speaker 1: Well, he told you soon as he got the mic.

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Speaker 1: He's probably the last person you should have given the mic.

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Speaker 7: I mean, hey, listen, oh I absolutely love it.

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Speaker 7: It's okay, you won a super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't happen often, and there's no there's no guarantee

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Speaker 7: So I'm all for it. I'm all for it.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Yeah, I'm I'm with Ocho. You know you you

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Speaker 1: Man, let him know how you feel, baby John Snyder.

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Speaker 1: It might be not like baby baby a little less,

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Speaker 1: But all that being said, I thought as a team

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Speaker 1: of teams gave up on me. But he said something.

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald said something very interesting. He said, I appreciate

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Speaker 3: You remember the last game of the season, and then

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Speaker 3: We can go really, really far.

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Speaker 5: Now, I'm gonna say what Minnesota saw. It shouldn't have

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Speaker 5: it's ridiculous because now look where they are again. I'll

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Speaker 5: say it again, Minnesota is in quarterback purgatory because you

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Speaker 5: don't know what you're where you're gonna go, or what

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Speaker 7: From now on.

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Speaker 5: Okay, maybe JJ McCarthy comes back and he an he

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Speaker 7: All the time that haven't won one, right, some of

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Speaker 1: Guys win championships and they never say their top ten

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Speaker 1: of time before we start ARBORI Trailly just tried to

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Speaker 5: Take off for Joe and one thing, Joe, one thing

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Speaker 1: Will I think it will? Joe, What do you think

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Speaker 3: No, that is a team victory.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not one of these guys. Because you won

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Speaker 1: Really have a have to have a really, a real, real,

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Speaker 1: should enjoy this. Uh, they should redo his contract. They

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Speaker 3: What he's signed for.

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Speaker 1: He signed three years, like one hundred, one hundred and

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Speaker 4: Hey, so listen, when when when you're not playing up

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Speaker 1: Parlays that goes fourteen and three. That's what I tell guys, Joe.

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Speaker 1: I tell you guys tow Joe. You know I've said this.

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Speaker 1: The team that you're playing for, they're not the only

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Speaker 1: So what you put on tape, that's your resume. That's

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Speaker 5: To me, obviously, I'm not sure where Dan Sam Donald

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Speaker 7: So they want they want to do it now this

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Speaker 7: He's gonna hit him across the head on the local

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Speaker 5: I understand just looking at Sam Donald and understanding the

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Speaker 4: Hey, but y'all know, y'all know, the more you win now,

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Speaker 1: It is, and the more and the more people they

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Speaker 3: He gone, just like that. Yeah, when you win, everybody.

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Speaker 3: It is so small, so small in order to win,

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Speaker 7: Or I'm gonna tell you a Joe.

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Speaker 3: Unless it's a bust to coverage, that ain't happening.

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Speaker 1: And every time you finna give that, give me that one.

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Speaker 3: Three show.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I don't need the Office of Coordinator help. Hey,

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Speaker 7: I'm finna go to work.

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Speaker 3: You're finna get money.

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Speaker 7: Man, get money. It's only about three of them, Joe,

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Speaker 1: Cam Hayward's podcast Let's take a Listen, O Joe and Joe.

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Speaker 3: What he had to say, m he broke the brotherhood.

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Speaker 8: Then seven definitely broke the brotherhood because like that's the shit,

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Speaker 8: the seven dude that did that.

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Speaker 3: We don't talk about it now.

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Speaker 8: It is crazy, like anybody should talk. He should never

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Speaker 8: grab a microphone and really talk. Still a business because

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Speaker 8: if we talk and still a business. His ass is

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Speaker 8: file of all foul, Like the ship that he's did

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Speaker 8: is fiule of all file. He's not a good teammate.

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Speaker 8: Won the Super Bowl, Woodie, but the person he's just

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Speaker 8: not a good teammate. Like he knows that. Anybody in

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Speaker 8: the Steller building knows that. But we protected because I've.

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Speaker 3: Only won one super Bowl and that was my quarterback.

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Speaker 3: So do I love my quarterback? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: But this is a good person.

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Speaker 3: Nom.

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Speaker 7: Hey, what what's going on over there? They need to

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Speaker 7: have a meeting or something. Something coming coming to god moment.

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Speaker 7: This this is the first listen.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, we heard Devo in his frustrations when the Steelers

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Speaker 5: weren't playing well, and he voiced his frustration with Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 7: We've heard other players.

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Speaker 5: We heard Ben Rothsisberger be be he chastised Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 5: as well. And now Joey Porter Senior coming to the

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Speaker 5: defense of Mike Tomlin saying, well, hell, Ben wasn't a great,

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Speaker 5: great teammate and that there are things that happened. There

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Speaker 5: were skeletons in the closet and we didn't let anybody know.

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Speaker 5: And it's getting ugly over that.

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Speaker 3: Joe. They didn't. They didn't let anybody know.

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Speaker 1: They didn't talk about it because, oh Joe, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be tough for being to get in on the first ballot.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot I'm.

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Speaker 7: Telling you, Oh yeah.

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Speaker 4: Everybody, I remember some of the things that were going

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Speaker 4: on that didn't get reported.

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Speaker 3: Me.

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Speaker 1: I'm not an insight you. I ain't looking to put

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Speaker 1: nobody personal business on black.

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Speaker 7: Hello on you knew what what the hell? Okay? Okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: So I just think the thing is is like, look,

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Speaker 1: I've only had a small interaction with being. I met

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Speaker 1: him in his rookie season. He my brother and I

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Speaker 1: had an appearance on Amelia Island. If I'm not mistaken

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowls in Jacksonville that year.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 1: With that being said, I'm not surprised. And if you

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Speaker 1: go back and look, one of the first guys that

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Speaker 1: come in and under what what he said was Mason

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Speaker 1: Rudolph And then he had a big bullseye dred it

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Speaker 1: right there for Yojo.

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Speaker 3: What's going what's going on? He go off, Joe A.

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Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph said, go on, Joey Porter fifty five bullseye.

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Speaker 1: I'm Mike Mitchell peasy talking that talk, Mike an hold

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Speaker 1: them boards accountable? Being talking is about anybody's comical?

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Speaker 5: Hm, well hold on, uncle, wait a minute. All the

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Speaker 5: Steelers players know what's going on.

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Speaker 7: Is it that bad?

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Speaker 5: I listen, I'm not don't put I'm not asking you know,

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Speaker 5: to put his business out there?

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Speaker 7: But is it that bad? Scale of one to ten?

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Speaker 5: Remember halftime when we played this, and how nobody knows

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Speaker 5: about what happened to me? So scale of ten, you

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Speaker 5: understand how bad that was, right, skeleton?

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Speaker 7: Is it worse than that?

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Speaker 1: I think the thing is o Joe, is that there

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Speaker 1: is a culmination, And he would look, I've been and

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Speaker 1: I think we've all Joe, I think you could have

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Speaker 1: tested this. We've been with guys that were great teammates

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Speaker 1: but not good people. Yes, we've been with guys that

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Speaker 1: were not good people, but were great teammates. What Joey

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Speaker 1: is saying, he is a combination. He wasn't a good

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Speaker 1: person or good teammates.

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Speaker 7: For goddamn.

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Speaker 3: If that's what I what I deduced from what he

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Speaker 3: was saying, and and and and and.

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Speaker 1: For your look and most of the time publicly, even

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Speaker 1: if you if you're the worst of the worst, your

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Speaker 1: teammates will come to your defense because that's what we're

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Speaker 1: opposed to do. And you see, too long as time

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Speaker 1: they did that until he broke the cold by coming

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Speaker 1: after Mike Tomlin and PS was like, hold on, bro,

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Speaker 1: you should be the last one to talk about anybody

518
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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. Don't talk about Pittsburgh business unless you want

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Speaker 1: to talk about your business. And so that's that is

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Speaker 1: the problem that you run into. And this is what

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Speaker 1: I tell guys from the outside. You guys know this.

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Speaker 1: We're with these people eight nine hours a day, six

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Speaker 1: months out of the year. We know them better than

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Speaker 1: any reporter. We know them damn near better than their

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Speaker 1: own family. So when they be seeing all that other

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Speaker 1: stuff and this and that, and fans we talking about, oh,

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Speaker 1: you don't know, No, you don't know. We know what

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Speaker 1: the hell we talking about because we see them and

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Speaker 1: we're in ways and through a lens.

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Speaker 3: You.

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Speaker 1: So when fans keep talking about you don't know what

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Speaker 1: you're talking about. You don't know, You don't know. All

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Speaker 1: you do is see the representative that they want you

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Speaker 1: to see and how they conjunct themselves.

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Speaker 5: See, hey, Joe, you see how everyone is somewhat camouflage

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Speaker 5: and their representative. They they perceived to be someone else

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Speaker 5: in front of the camera.

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Speaker 7: That's why I was one way all the time. There's

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Speaker 7: really nothing you can say, Joe.

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Speaker 5: What you get on the show right now, Joe, that's

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Speaker 5: the same thing you got on the field. I mean, hell,

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Speaker 5: you know you had to deal with me, talk about

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Speaker 5: me from time to time, and what you see the

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Speaker 5: same fun, loving, entertaining, same way I was in the

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Speaker 5: locker room.

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Speaker 7: Now you know I was late. I had an incident, Joe.

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Speaker 7: I could tell you, Joe. I mean it's long going.

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Speaker 5: We're playing still as one game. Joe, Carson got hurt

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Speaker 5: towards a to.

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Speaker 3: I let him slide on information.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you let it slide.

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Speaker 5: You let its slide, Joe, you let it slide, right,

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Speaker 5: this is my only asshole coming. Come in the asshole moment.

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Speaker 5: It's halftime, Joe. I'm getting the IV. Joe, we come in.

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Speaker 5: I'm hot because Carson goes down. Why are we not

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Speaker 5: including me in the offense. Why are we allowing the

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Speaker 5: stealers to dictate what we're doing in a playoff game,

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Speaker 5: a game of this importance. Yeah, Joe, I lost the

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Speaker 5: Joe I snatched the ivy out in my hand. I

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Speaker 5: come out of the room, blood flying everywhere. Joe, Joe, Joe.

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Speaker 7: I lost it. I swear for God, I swear to God.

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Speaker 7: I lost it.

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Speaker 5: And I came out and I'm fussing, and I'm not

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Speaker 5: screaming at anybody directly. I'm just snapping in general. Man,

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Speaker 5: get me the fucking ball.

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Speaker 3: Keep the ball.

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Speaker 7: It's not that hard. I can do. I can do

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Speaker 7: whatever you want to do.

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Speaker 5: Just give me the ball. Muck and Marvin shut up, nigga.

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Speaker 5: Hugh Jackson came over. Nigga, Hey, you.

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Speaker 3: Choke me out?

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Speaker 7: Was choked me out?

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Speaker 3: This is how was with Ojo got upset?

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Speaker 6: You was?

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Speaker 3: You was the guy that that got all the venom

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Speaker 3: that was he was.

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Speaker 1: He was the pin cushion that OO put because Hugh

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Speaker 1: knew how to he knew how to relate, he knew

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Speaker 1: how to deal with Oyo, so oo all of us

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Speaker 1: Oo's frustration. Even though he was it was Hugh that

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Speaker 1: could get O Joe off the cliff. But we I

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Speaker 1: had that information, I say, you know what, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure they would love love for me, but no, no,

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Speaker 1: we're good. That is't my job. Now, if somebody else

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Speaker 1: we were gonna have to talk about it. But I

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Speaker 1: was like, nah, I ain't talking about that. And and

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Speaker 1: and especially with something of that magnitude when they trying

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Speaker 1: to make somebody like us look bad.

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Speaker 3: I ain't gonna do it. Yeah, yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: Hold but there are a lot of stuff when you

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Speaker 1: when you in the line of business that we were

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Speaker 1: that I was in working with CBS, working with undisputed,

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Speaker 1: people would call and tell me and to check this out.

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Speaker 3: You ain't hear from me, put it in your words.

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Speaker 4: I was like, Man, if I were to say this,

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Speaker 4: they gonna know exactly that this came. This came from

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Speaker 4: inside the Marcker room.

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Speaker 3: How do you else would somebody know that? And trying

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Speaker 3: to put nobody.

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Speaker 7: Out there like that, Yeah, yeah, hey, Joe, I would

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Speaker 7: heard Joe.

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Speaker 3: I would hurt.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I had the needle in my arm. Joe,

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Speaker 5: I ain't even care. I just I just snatched it out.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, no, we're not letting these people come in

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Speaker 5: our house and dictate what we do offensively.

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Speaker 7: Are we even trying to win?

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Speaker 5: Like, I'm like, come on, man, okay, Carson and down

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Speaker 5: John Kittner comes in the game.

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Speaker 7: That shouldn't stop anything we're trying to do offensively, and

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Speaker 7: it's like, what are we what are we doing? And

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Speaker 7: I was hurt, Joe.

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Speaker 5: I was hurt because I understood how difficult it was

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Speaker 5: for us to even get to this point.

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Speaker 4: And competing, competing, Boy, they bring it out that fier.

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Speaker 4: You can't be like you be like me when we

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Speaker 4: was in New York. You see red and you just

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Speaker 4: go off.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 7: Oh you you went off before?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I sing, I know what you mean. You know

622
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Speaker 4: you want that ball? You want hey, hey, man, bring

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Speaker 4: that ball over here and stop playing.

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Speaker 1: Is tough because they shielded being with a lot of

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Speaker 1: things and a lot of stuff that was going on.

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Speaker 3: They knew, and some a lot of tell it.

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Speaker 1: Look, if you've got a great rapport with a reporter,

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Speaker 1: they'll catch and kill a lot of stuff that won't

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Speaker 1: make it.

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Speaker 3: A lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: If if you ingratiate yourself in the city, you ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna get no trouble.

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Speaker 3: The cops will drive you home.

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Speaker 1: Want to get in your car, drive your car home,

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Speaker 1: You get the police car, they drive you to where

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Speaker 1: you going, park your car and get back and get gone.

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Speaker 1: If you ingratiate yourself in the city if you like,

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Speaker 1: if you got a dick or you know what. That's

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Speaker 1: how they treat you. I'm not telling what somebody told you.

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Speaker 1: I'm tell what I know. Yeah, So when I talk

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Speaker 1: to you, Chad, when I talk to y'all, well, y'all

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Speaker 1: here and that, and I know y'all think O jo

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Speaker 1: joke a lot. But when I talk to you, I'm

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Speaker 1: not telling when somebody told me. I'm telling you what

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Speaker 1: I know with first hand knowledge. I just don't do it.

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Speaker 1: I don't like to say, well where I I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you where I got it from. But a

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Speaker 1: lot of people still call me. I'm still him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I fell on some popp Hey, I'm telling you. I

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Speaker 1: still have great relationships with teams, a lot of my

651
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Speaker 1: coaches and a lot of people that was in front

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Speaker 1: offices and bounced around.

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Speaker 3: So you do realize like a treat like Sean McVay.

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Speaker 1: So if I had a relationship with Sean McVay and

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Speaker 1: all these other guys that bounced around, therefore, guess what,

656
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Speaker 1: you got a relationship with all those other guys, They're

657
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: going to trust me.

658
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: Yes, Kyle Shanahan the same way.

659
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 4: So if there's anything that I wanted to know, y'all

660
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 4: don't really think I can.

661
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 7: Find out, right, Damn man, Joe, you ever snapped before, Joe?

662
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: Uh? I probably had some heated moments y'all. Y'all know,

663
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: Joe Joe a couple.

664
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 4: Because in the playoff moments, Bro, it's like you out

665
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 4: there fighting, trying to do whatever you can just to

666
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 4: get a win. And you know, in basketball it's a

667
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 4: seven game series. It ain't like, yeah, we could be

668
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 4: better than them for a game or two, but seven games, Bro,

669
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 4: the best team normally gonna win. So, uh, you're definitely

670
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 4: gonna have some frustrated moments, bro, because look at some point, okay,

671
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 4: oh tew, y'all know this. In basketball, we know all

672
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 4: your plays you're gonna run, We know what you're trying

673
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 4: to do and how you're trying to do it. Now

674
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 4: it's your will against against my will, you know what

675
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 4: I mean. So it's it's it's a little different. Yeah,

676
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 4: it's it's it's it's tough. It's tough.

677
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: But I don't I don't get it, O, Joe. I don't.

678
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: And I know there are times that, Look, I've always Joe,

679
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: and you know this, oh, Joe, they're bringing guys in.

680
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: I don't care how many Pro Bowls they're gonna bring

681
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: receivers in. They're constantly looking to replace you.

682
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: That's just the nature of the beast. But I know.

683
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: He can't beat me for this job. Now, if you

684
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: go ahead and move me on out the way, well,

685
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: you ain't gotta work. He ain't gotta worry about nothing,

686
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: but just beat me, says Okay, this job is up

687
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: for grab. Be the best man win. Well, I guess

688
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: I was the best man because I'm gonna win. It's

689
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: really that simple. But I've always because I looked at

690
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: it like this, Guys, if I got hurt, I was

691
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: a horrible teammate.

692
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: I was a horrible leader.

693
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: If I had not prepared that guy to go out

694
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: there and help this team win, I was selfish. I'm

695
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: withholding information from him that can help him get better,

696
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: that would and then and then and turn around and.

697
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: Help the team. So that's why I always put.

698
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: My arms around a guy and the guys to tell you, hey, man, man,

699
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: oh help. But they called me sharp or they called

700
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: me shay, and so that means that means a lot

701
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: to me. That means a lot because I was I

702
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: wasn't concerned about somebody. Man, you know, they brought me

703
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: into replace.

704
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 4: Okay, hell, I replaced somebody.

705
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: This is a circle, is what happens.

706
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: But I've always I've always, I've always really guys tried

707
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: to be a good teammate.

708
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: I've always was.

709
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: I was I selfish earlier in my career, probably when

710
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: I was in I was even a good team. I

711
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: was a good teammate in high school, in college, but

712
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to win so bad, and I thought that

713
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: it was all about me. And as I got older

714
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: and I realized what it took in order to win,

715
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: that they needed there are some other guys. There were

716
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: some other me guys that was just as good as

717
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: shunning Sharp, and that could help this team win also.

718
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: But I'm telling the guys, Hey, you come in the

719
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: hall of you you me, you're tight end. Hey, I'm

720
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: the receiver. You know what you got?

721
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: You the hot?

722
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: Now hey they bring hey they bring two, We got

723
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: it picked up if they bring one. But if they

724
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: bring two, you're hot. You're good. Yeah, I'm good. You

725
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: know what you got. You got to dig. Oh, if

726
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: it's covered, two get up the rail because I'm getting

727
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: down the hole. I'm constantly telling guys what they got.

728
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: I just that's just the way I am.

729
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 3: Man.

730
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: I just I wanted to win. I wanted to help

731
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: the guys win. I'm holding information. I know he don't

732
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: know what to do. It ain't my fault. He then

733
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: he go out there and blow the Sigmon, we throw

734
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 1: a pick?

735
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: Who did that? Hell?

736
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: We lose, as we losing as a team. It ain't

737
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: oh he lost, No, we lost. That's just the way

738
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: I am. But I've always tried to be a good teammate.

739
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: I've tried to be a good person, and sometimes the

740
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: two things can be true. You could be a good

741
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: teammate and a crappy person. You could be a crappy

742
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: person and a good teammate. Hopefully more time than not.

743
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: You'd like to see guys a little bit both b

744
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: ofl both, but it is what it is.

745
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 4: That's red or you know, to have to have the

746
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 4: leader of your team be both. You know you you

747
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 4: probably get one. But when you got your teammates coming

748
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 4: out saying stuff about you, bro, I mean, it says

749
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 4: it says a lot about you know, the love, respect

750
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: and admiration that they have for Mike Toumblin.

751
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yes, you know what I mean. So I

752
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 3: can appreciate that. Bro.

753
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 4: You know, they ain't gonna just let you just say

754
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 4: anything now. And I get a part of me get.

755
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: Because I think the thing is that kind of like

756
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: a debo, is that the last year that he and

757
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: Mike didn't see eye of eye and they ended up

758
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: releasing him and things of that nature. Even though the

759
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: Broncos didn't resign me, I never said anything.

760
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: Bad about Mike. I didn't.

761
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: Okay, you felt you feel you know, you ain't got

762
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: no use for a seven time Pro Bowl or five

763
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: time All Pro. You ain't got no use for him. Okay,

764
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: got to help you win two Super Bowl You ain't

765
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: got no use for him. You lead the guys that

766
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: you got on the rosters, or you could drive somebody

767
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: else better. Okay, fine, I appreciate the opportunity. I appreciate

768
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: you coming in, coming in and in this offense is

769
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: very very tight in friendly. I appreciate that. But it

770
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: meant a lot for me that when I came back

771
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: here and I had a conversation, didn't even say I

772
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: was wrong, because a lot of times, oh Joe, they

773
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: just base everything on what they see on the field.

774
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: They don't see the practices, they don't see the bus rides,

775
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: they don't see the locker room, and they don't see

776
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: what you did in those spaces that caused you to

777
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: be successful on the field.

778
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: That's the fun right now.

779
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 4: So now all of a sudden, you find yourself people

780
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 4: in your office every day, stuff that you never had

781
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: to worry about when they forward in the locker room.

782
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: Oh that's what it means a lot. And my teammates

783
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: they vouched for me. Yeah, they make joke talking about Lazarus.

784
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: They say, ain't nobody rising from the day boy than you,

785
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: but Lazarus. That's what office of Live we used to

786
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: call it because I got be the little andy d

787
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: wabbling ankles man, you know back then on your people

788
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: he'll drop your damn near every play for the hip

789
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: drop and cowboys call it all that stuff.

790
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 7: Mm hm. You gotta learn it. You got to learn

791
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 7: to roll with it.

792
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 3: Yes, But I don't know.

793
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: In a situation like this, I don't know if I'm

794
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: being I'm not responding.

795
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: Just down.

796
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 5: Being a quarterback. I don't I don't think it's been

797
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 5: That's not in Ben's character. Probably to be confrontational, especially publicly,

798
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 5: and it says a lot about Mike tomlind for for

799
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 5: some of the players like Joey Porter Senior to be

800
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 5: coming to his defense and what former players are saying, like,

801
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 5: y'all got yall nerve, y'all got your nerve to say

802
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 5: anything about Mike Tomlin when.

803
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 7: He's part of the reason for your success when you

804
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 7: were there.

805
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 5: So sometimes it's players you forget about that because it's

806
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 5: it's in the past. You've got all that a coach

807
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 5: has done for you while you were there.

808
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 3: And a part of this.

809
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 4: I don't know, boy Ben would ever say anything negative

810
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 4: about coach Tomblin because it was coach Tomlin that really

811
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 4: harmed his own tenure in Pittsburgh by not getting the

812
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 4: damn replacement because he didn't want to take you off.

813
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, so.

814
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: There's a lot to we could be talking about this story,

815
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: but we're gonna move it on. Hey, I think we've

816
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: got enough out of this. Oh Joe, Joe, this is

817
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: right up your alley. Shawn's released the suspension for the

818
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: Pistons Hornets fights Isaiah Stewart seven games, Mile Bridges four game,

819
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: the Abate four games, Jalen Durton two games, Joe, I'm

820
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: gonna let you go first. But I am shocked Isaiah

821
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: Stewart only got seven games, Joe.

822
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they was.

823
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: They was very generous with Stuart because he's a repeat offender.

824
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 3: Ojo.

825
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 4: He's known, he's known for, you know, having violent acts

826
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 4: on the court.

827
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 6: Bro.

828
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: This ain't what we're trying to endorse, you know what

829
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 4: I mean. Plus, he came off of it, so I

830
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 4: expected him to get to I expected him to get

831
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 4: the most, but I expected him to I thought he

832
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 4: was gonna get more than seven games. Me myself, uh uh,

833
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 4: And it just kind of escalated. I thought I knew

834
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 4: Miles Bridges was gonna get a get a nice you know,

835
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 4: a few games.

836
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 3: Uh. What's the young kid name right here? Masa? Yeah, Masa.

837
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, honestly, honestly, I wouldn't have

838
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 4: been mad if if Duran didn't get no game suspended,

839
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: because you know, he wasn't.

840
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 3: He put the man into the baron by Rasky. That's

841
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 3: that man.

842
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 4: He in my personal space. He's the head but froehead

843
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 4: and forehead. Yeah, that's too much. I'm gonna give you

844
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 4: a little yea.

845
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 3: Much too. What are you supposed to do? See you

846
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: subject put that bowl overveal? Yeah?

847
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 4: You subject? Yeah, thats what I'm saying. You subjected to

848
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 4: get ahead. But after playing so you gotta always protect yourself.

849
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 4: But I thought Stuve was gonna get.

850
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,959
Speaker 1: I thought I thought he given his history, I thought

851
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: he'd probably get somewhere between ten and fifteen.

852
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, at least ten, That's what I was thinking,

853
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 4: at least ten.

854
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: At least you know that, I was disappointed in I

855
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: was disappointed in hearing some of the people that cover

856
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: the NBA talk about they didn't have a problem with

857
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: this until you get a situation like Malice in the Palace.

858
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: Well you nobody well that it wasn't gonna be that.

859
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: You don't know, you didn't think the Madison the Palace

860
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: was gonna be that. You didn't think kermil Washington situation

861
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: was gonna be that. Guys, this is not a good

862
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: look for the league. This is why they got away

863
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: from I'm all that in the eighties and ninety David

864
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: Stern were playing this. He said, Okay, you want to fight, Okay,

865
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 1: don't worry about it now. If you really want to fight,

866
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: join the military. Because they're looking for a few good

867
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: men and women. Yeah, but you're not gonna do that here. Yeah,

868
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: it's a bad look on the game. That's and to

869
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: say I don't have all them with this and this

870
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: is no, no, no no, And Stu Stuve beef, that's

871
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: not what they brought you to Detroit for. I understand,

872
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: I understand. Look the bad boy Pistons and y'all want

873
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: to relive what Isaiah and John Salad and Mahorn and

874
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: Lambert and all those rodmen.

875
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: But that's a different time. That was. Yeah, David Stern

876
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: cleaned that up.

877
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: He said, Nah, in order for us to get to

878
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: where we need to be because all that fighting, Joe,

879
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: you were gonna be getting a forty and fifty and

880
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: sixty million dollars a year, Sam contracts.

881
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: Not with all that. No, No, now, I'm with you.

882
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

883
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 7: You know.

884
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 3: Stu B.

885
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 4: Stewart, he the muss over there, so I felt, you know,

886
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 4: he probably felt he had to come to their defense.

887
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 4: But man, you gotta have you control your emotions. You

888
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 4: gotta have control rage, you know what I mean. And

889
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 4: too many times, you know, he didn't let his emotions

890
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 4: get the best.

891
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: Of them so I knew that.

892
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 4: I mean, right for real, honestly, Ojo, this really like

893
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 4: a little slap on the wrist. If you asked me,

894
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 4: some games ain't nothing, man, Look, I honestly I think

895
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 4: the Pistols will rally around this.

896
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: And I still think.

897
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 4: They're gonna be They're gonna be right there to come

898
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,959
Speaker 4: out the east man. I got, hey, but they're gonna

899
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 4: rally around this.

900
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: I think I think Stuart was an overreaction and Duncan

901
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: Robinson was an underreaction because I gonna have a conversation

902
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: with him.

903
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 4: I said, bro, look here, you just grabbed somebody. Even

904
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 4: if even if you.

905
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: Fake fake hey, hey, bro, hey, come on, man, come on, hey,

906
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: come on, right for you to just walk away and

907
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: we and we.

908
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't in the locker room now you got you

909
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 5: gotta make up your mind.

910
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 7: Robinson was away.

911
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 5: But then then you say you don't want to fight.

912
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 4: We ain't try to do that over here. We how

913
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 4: many times we don't been on the field and we've

914
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 4: done that how many times?

915
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 1: And and and and and scrimmages, especially when you scream

916
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: each other teams and you know, emotions ain't no basically,

917
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: just the camera ain't no fans and just the fans

918
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: line and the thing you ain't come on, hey man,

919
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: come on, Joe Bad. What's wrong with you? That is

920
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: too Why not hear me exerting all this energy.

921
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I ain't saying swing on somebody, but I'm just saying,

922
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 4: like I said, he work, come on bad, you know

923
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 4: good will right.

924
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 7: And I mean I feel you. I feel you.

925
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 5: I mean I think obviously suspensions were slap on the wrist,

926
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 5: understanding that emotions are high, especially when you're competing, you know,

927
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 5: at the highest level.

928
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 7: And I mean it, it happens.

929
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 5: It happens the time, and it doesn't happen often in

930
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 5: the NBA most of the time. The most we get

931
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 5: is we see shoving. Outside of shoving, you never see

932
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 5: it come to blows like it did did that day.

933
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 5: And I mean, Joe, I got a question, Joe. NBA

934
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 5: viewership it was down a little bit, wasn't it.

935
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 3: I think I don't know what happened. Probably has been.

936
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 7: NBA viewership was it down a little bit?

937
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: Well, I think the thing is that might have something

938
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 1: to do with Hell. You don't know where to find.

939
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: It might be on Peacock, it might be on NBC.

940
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: It might be yeah, it might be on Amazon. It's

941
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: kind of hard centralized like it once was. What you

942
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: got to have, Joe to make money, Go ahead on Joe.

943
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll tell you what, uncle Joe.

944
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 5: You get a few more goddamn scuffers like this, I'm

945
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 5: telling you, boy, you get a whole bunch of people

946
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 5: tuning in now.

947
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll get a whole lot of helping off though.

948
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 4: Right, Hey, look, but this is why you see it

949
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 4: everywhere too, though, Like they don't condone it, but you

950
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 4: know they gonna put it out there and bring eyes

951
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 4: to it, you know what.

952
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 7: I mean, absolutely absolutely.

953
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 3: You know, people love drama.

954
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 5: They it makes it exciting, it makes it say listen,

955
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 5: I'm I'm sure. I'm still trying to understand the unwritten

956
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 5: rule when it comes to hockey, you know, I mean,

957
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 5: it's an unwritten rule.

958
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 7: I mean, you got to know they give each other

959
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 7: a sign and listen.

960
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 5: They you know, hockey has enforces, NBA has enforces most

961
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 5: of the time. They conduct themselves on the paint, on

962
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 5: the hardwood, and it's just list then the boy got

963
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 5: to control their emotion, man.

964
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 3: That's what it is. I mean.

965
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: And like I said, man, look in basketball, that's just

966
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: that's real money. I mean, you talked about seven games.

967
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what Stewards making, but hey.

968
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 4: It's gonna probably be like probably be almost a million,

969
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 4: if not more.

970
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't got time, Ben. It's hot out there.

971
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: I meant to see them guys be tussling and training.

972
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,479
Speaker 3: It's hot. And the first thing might say, I guess

973
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 3: I ain't practicing. Y'all heard, come on.

974
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 7: Man, damn.

975
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: You you about to tussle.

976
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 4: We already a degree, We've already been out here, Joe, Joe,

977
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 4: you know an hour and he told me, I guess

978
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 4: I ain't practice, y'all hard enough?

979
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 7: Okay, Hey, you know what you know what a joe?

980
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 5: You notice and the people and people watching the chat,

981
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 5: y'all gonna tested this cool too, because I'm sure y'all

982
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 5: see it every joint practice during during training camp.

983
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 7: It's always a fight.

984
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 5: You never noticed that, Joe, Yeah, because look, every every

985
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 5: training camp is always the fighting the joint practice, and

986
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 5: it's always the goddamn lineman the line.

987
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 7: They they're always going at it every time.

988
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 4: And you got all them dudes out there with the

989
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 4: heat beating up on you too. Yeah, it's gonna be

990
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 4: a few fights because what happens on Joe, you get

991
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,439
Speaker 4: because it ain't no official. Remember, they ain't a whole

992
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 4: lot officials. And they throws the flag down if they

993
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 4: are there. Okay, you get he got his He got

994
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 4: his hand on the guy's face. Man, he got you

995
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 4: got the office of line got him jacked up. You

996
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 4: don't got want somebody to hell somebody. And the first

997
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 4: thing they do they turn out five oh man, yeah,

998
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 4: because you know in practice they're gonna let it line absolutely.

999
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: As absolutely and so. And that's the thing.

1000
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: You know, guys used to like you tried to break

1001
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: practice up. You get into it, but there was like,

1002
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: uh no, all you're gonna do is just stay out

1003
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: here longer.

1004
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, come on, God damn.

1005
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: And like you said, oh, Joe's always the lineman, always

1006
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: offensive deep defensive line and just somebody coming over the

1007
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: top with a boom.

1008
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 3: Hey, Neil Smith. And I think if Neil Smith and

1009
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: Kevin Gogan got into it in the Pro Bowl.

1010
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 7: And the pro Bo.

1011
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 3: What about Il?

1012
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: I told her. I think I told to me about

1013
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: two years ago. Nil said, if I see it right now, shop,

1014
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: I found him, I said, come on, man, you're sixty.

1015
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: He probably sixty two.

1016
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 7: Hey, what they would arguing about it?

1017
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 6: The problem?

1018
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 7: It's the time for that's a.

1019
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 4: Joyous Oh that ain't hey, go back, go back and

1020
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 4: look at man.

1021
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: Neil hit that hit that man so hard in the

1022
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: back of his head. I mean Neil jumped to five.

1023
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's it's some players you'll never be.

1024
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: When when when he said, hey, he made it too,

1025
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: You're like, oh yeah, if I see it right now,

1026
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: I fire only. I said, come on, Neil, man, bro,

1027
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: you sixty You ain't got no bites. Fire on nobody.

1028
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: We need to say that energy to get around bro.

1029
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: But my fel it might be on the internet YouTube.

1030
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: Look up Neil Smith and Kevin Gogan at the Pro Bowl. Man, Oh, Joe,

1031
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: Neil jumped so high, hit that man in the back

1032
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: of his damn.

1033
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 7: Head in the it's in the middle of the game.

1034
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1035
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 4: It was like, uh yeah, y'all, Chad, y'all pull it up.

1036
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: I know y'all can pull it up.

1037
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 7: Hey might he must he must have been going he

1038
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 7: must have been going too hard. Then you must have

1039
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 7: been story.

1040
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: Suspension would cost them seven hundred twenty four hundred and

1041
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: thirty eight dollars. Miles Ridges suspension will cost him six

1042
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: hundred eighty nine thousand, six sixty five and Jalen Duran

1043
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: the suspension will cost him eighty nine thousand, four to

1044
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: twenty three. A massa will cost him sixty two thousand

1045
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 1: and six forty one.

1046
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 7: That mckiv not even they mean they mean the big

1047
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 7: money boys.

1048
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 3: Huh oh yo. This is what Draymond had to say.

1049
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: Draymond called the NBA fans for complaining about the league's

1050
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: soft while also wanting players to get suspended for fighting.

1051
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 3: Pick aside, guys.

1052
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 4: Man, we gave you game. It ain't even nowhere in

1053
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 4: basketball you can have that. No, not that like you.

1054
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 4: You know, some of these dudes acts out here man

1055
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 4: like for real, Oh Joe, they gotta really control their emotion, bro,

1056
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 4: you can't be out here. I mean, I can understand

1057
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 4: in the midst of competition, you know, things get a

1058
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 4: little heated. It may even be some pushing back and forth,

1059
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 4: for you may bump into a guy.

1060
00:49:54,920 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 3: But come on now, come on, yeah, look those days over.

1061
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: The last thing I want to do, Oh Joe, if

1062
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: I swing somebody, I'm hitting him. He got a helmet on.

1063
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: I break my hand on his face. Man, I break

1064
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: my hand on his helmet. Then what I tear a

1065
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: lingament in my heart? Then what so? Who who's bout help.

1066
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 7: Nobody. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. No, man,

1067
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 7: I ain't.

1068
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 5: Gonna talk about when I was in the woo. Now, man,

1069
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 5: I was able to control my emotion.

1070
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 3: Hey, look, but I don't.

1071
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 4: I don't understand that, neither Joe, especially in football, because

1072
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 4: guys be punching dudes in the hell and I'm like,

1073
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 4: what the.

1074
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 7: Why you, Joe? You got to go open hand sometimes

1075
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 7: you gotta go like to the thing.

1076
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 3: Well, what you try to do is grab the face mask,

1077
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 3: lift and come up under.

1078
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, Joe, champ draft.

1079
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: But these Champs drafts they got not Oh Joe, you

1080
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: got these ones that they slide. They ain't like the

1081
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: snap polls.

1082
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: Like what we had.

1083
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 5: The ain't gonna come on. Yeah, hey Joe, that that's

1084
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 5: how I was finna do the rade, Joe.

1085
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 4: What I remember, I'm you you finna get down. I

1086
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 4: remember you telling me that.

1087
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, Joe, Hey, Joe, Hey.

1088
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: You waiting by the bus and everything.

1089
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 5: Joe, I was waiting on him at the locker room. Boy, Joe,

1090
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 5: he got he was gonna have.

1091
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 7: To see me. He was gonna have to prove to

1092
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 7: me that show you.

1093
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 5: Oh, he would have to show me, Joe, Joe, we

1094
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 5: prayed before the game, Joe, we went over the scripture,

1095
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 5: went over the scripture.

1096
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: That's what he's praying for.

1097
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 5: And he had the nerve to hit me like that

1098
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 5: in the game. So we need to have a conversation

1099
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 5: because I know the Lord ain't tell you to do that.

1100
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 5: You got to see me, Joe, and listen, when my

1101
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 5: helmet went flying, my helmer went flying by fifteen yards, Joe.

1102
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 5: I ran up on him and I had to think,

1103
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 5: wait a minute, this ain't the place for that.

1104
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 7: This ain't the place for that.

1105
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 3: So I looked at him.

1106
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 5: I said, I'm gonna see you after the game, because hey, Joe,

1107
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 5: I waited at the locker the bus.

1108
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, he probably would have got out of you on

1109
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 4: the field because you ain't had no helmet on. You

1110
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 4: probably would have swung back on.

1111
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 7: You right right, right, right right. Wait, listen, the grace

1112
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 7: of God save ray that day. Boy.

1113
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 4: Uh, did you see what Miles Garret did to Mason

1114
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 4: Rudolph wah.

1115
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 5: Wah yeah, you know what, you know who lucky? You

1116
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 5: know who lucky you are. I ain't seeing San Francisco

1117
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 5: Miles Lucky. I ain't see him on the radio road.

1118
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 3: Man here and he in Italy with his girlfriend.

1119
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, he went to support this girl.

1120
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 5: Hey, Joe, Miles, this sapsuckle didn't give me that goddamn jersey,

1121
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 5: that twenty three sex jersey may that.

1122
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 7: But he said he was gonna get it to me.

1123
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 3: Well he I don't worry about it.

1124
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 7: Don't worry about it.

1125
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 5: He gonna he gonna, Miles Garrett, I know, I hope

1126
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 5: you see this. You're gonna find out where they call

1127
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 5: me Hella hands, okay, and Joe, you know they call

1128
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 5: me Joe. They called me Hella hand Joe like that. Yeah,

1129
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 5: Hey Joe, it feels like you're fighting two people. Boy,

1130
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 5: I'll tell you no, lie.

1131
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what that eighty four when the

1132
00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: Raiders in in Kansas City got into it, the whole team,

1133
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: man Sean Jones took the helmet off and was swinging it,

1134
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: pull it up.

1135
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 3: Chat.

1136
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: I think it was I think it was eighty four.

1137
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: It might have been eighty four, It might have been

1138
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: a little later. Connect the whole team are just two people,

1139
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of people. But the Raiders in Kansas City. Look,

1140
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: Raiders Kansas City and the Broncos, we don't like each other. Chargers,

1141
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: they just happen to be in the division. Seahawks just

1142
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: happen to be in the division. But those three, because

1143
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: those were the original three.

1144
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, you.

1145
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: Had to be careful o Joe and Joe back then

1146
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: because they really try to put you out the game.

1147
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: They would yeah for real, Yeah for real. Yeah.

1148
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: And so once I knew that, so you don't care

1149
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: about me feeding my family, I get less of the

1150
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: damn about you feed yours. So we both be of

1151
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: were fed up knees. But I'm gonna be the only one.

1152
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: But it was, it was, it was. It was vicious

1153
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: back then, but they cleaned they cleaned it up. Bill

1154
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: Simmons vocal the state of the NBA in Adam Silver's leadership.

1155
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: Simmons says, it is the first time I've really wonder

1156
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: like do we have the right guy running this league?

1157
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: Because he doesn't seem interested in fixing real problems that

1158
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: everybody can see. And it's like it's not about like,

1159
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: look at the NBA Cup. Your schedule is too long.

1160
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: You have to fix this. How many more games can

1161
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: players miss before they're disqualified from postseason award? Anthony Edwards

1162
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: can only miss seven games, Kawhi can only miss four,

1163
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: Victor Wiman Yama can only miss four. Steph Curry can

1164
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: only miss two, Nicolea Jokic Nikola Jokic can only miss one.

1165
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: Joannis and Lebron has already been eliminated. Man Listen, okay Ocho.

1166
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 4: I knew this is gonna be a problem when they

1167
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 4: implemented this. Listen to the NBA season, whether you had

1168
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 4: to play, which is how many games year? Sixty five?

1169
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 4: Sixty five games? Yeah, it's it's not notice an eighty

1170
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 4: two game season. That don't seem like a lot, but yeah,

1171
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 4: you can see it put a lot of people. It

1172
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 4: put a lot of the stars out of it, out

1173
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 4: of contention.

1174
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. You get an injury, Joe, Yeah,

1175
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 3: you get an injury. It's around.

1176
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 7: Do you think they'll change it? They're gonna change it back?

1177
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: When when is Joe? That's collectively bargain? So when when?

1178
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: When is the new bark? When is the agreement up?

1179
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: You can't you can't.

1180
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 3: Do anything now, No, you I mean you can nah,

1181
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 3: not like nah, oh.

1182
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: Wow, It's gotta be collective bargain. It's just like the

1183
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: the league can't go to eighteen games as much as

1184
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: they want to. That'll be something you'd have to put

1185
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 1: to the union. So if you want to change it

1186
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: and say, okay, instead of sixty five, we'll make it

1187
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: seventy two, so you canna miss ten games. But the

1188
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: thing is that if a guy gets hurt, he gonna

1189
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: be out of it anyway.

1190
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 3: Yo Ki got hurt, Yeah and still got the crazy numbers.

1191
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they put they put this, They put this

1192
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 4: in play because they want guys, they want they want

1193
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,479
Speaker 4: to stop the tank. And I would think, I think,

1194
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 4: and they wanted guys to have to play versus all

1195
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 4: this sitting out these national televised games.

1196
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 3: Guys sitting out, They trying to put it in all

1197
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 3: they did and uh what what rest? What did they

1198
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 3: call it? O? Joe? I mean Joe when Sandy Tony?

1199
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:24,720
Speaker 3: What do they call it? Load?

1200
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: Guys would load managing National a Saturday night game. They

1201
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: were load managing ESPN games. They were load managing T

1202
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: and T game. Now, I say, no, bro, people paying

1203
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty thous dollars to see the court side.

1204
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 3: They're paying.

1205
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: They bring their family, and the stars are not out.

1206
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean, just imagine if you went to the Lakers

1207
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: game last night. No Luca, no Lebron, no a r damn.

1208
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 7: You got to be a true fan.

1209
00:56:55,600 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: No stars sell the league. That's what everybody want. That's

1210
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: why you want it. That's why you put up with

1211
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: a lot of that bs ojo and you give them

1212
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: the keys to the car because you need.

1213
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 3: That right and okay, ojo.

1214
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 4: This is why all these teams they talking about, these

1215
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 4: teams out here tanking, They tanking because this draft class

1216
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 4: is gonna be one of them ones. Yeah, they know

1217
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 4: they can get you a superstar that can put your

1218
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 4: head in the next eighteen twenty years.

1219
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: You got Cameron Boozer, you got the Bonza, you got

1220
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: the kid from from Darren Pterre.

1221
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 3: I don't know about him.

1222
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: I see a lot of red flags, Kayler Will a

1223
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: lot of I see a lot of red flags Joe

1224
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 1: because of the injury here, No, because of.

1225
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 3: It's maybe some other things.

1226
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's injury, but he's done miss some time, suspension,

1227
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: things like that.

1228
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 3: The kid from North Carolina. I'm saying, I'm saying.

1229
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 4: I'm saying because I'm saying because like you know, he's

1230
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 4: he's been out due to like little minute injuries. So

1231
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 4: you know, if you you know, he been great when

1232
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 4: he's played. But yeah, he may play. He may have

1233
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 4: twenty two points in one half and don't play the next.

1234
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 4: And I think on the professional level, you thinking, man,

1235
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 4: you're gonna be playing eighty two games a season right now.

1236
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 4: In college you're only playing what thirty thirty five games?

1237
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: Seas if you go all with you can't make all

1238
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: the way through. Joe, Yeah, you can't make.

1239
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 7: Which one is? Young boy? That's from b Yu.

1240
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 3: Boson aj aj Deboson. Yeah yeah he nights. He really?

1241
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 4: I think, Okay, Joe, you can put him in the

1242
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 4: league right now. Like if he was on that Mavericks

1243
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 4: team and he took Cooper flag spot, he could be

1244
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 4: averaging about about twenty two to twenty three games.

1245
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 3: He good.

1246
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1247
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 4: Colos Boozer man he a dog too, which he monster

1248
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 4: a walking double double? Yeah, he balling. Cameron Boos I

1249
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 4: like Caleb Wilson too from Carolina North Carolina. Yeah, Hey,

1250
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 4: I don't know if you notice, but gil Son Elijah.

1251
00:58:58,560 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 3: Game winner.

1252
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: He ranging can have the ball, can score U three

1253
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: different levels, the MIDI ranging get all the way to

1254
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: the rim.

1255
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 3: He can shoot the three. He good, He really good.

1256
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 3: He ain't got no weaknesses. He just got it.

1257
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 4: He just gotta stay healthy, keep continue to get straight

1258
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 4: on gil get Yeah. Yeah, hey, but look gil okay, hey,

1259
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 4: you know he just had like twenty nine in the game. Yeah,

1260
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 4: gets up Penn State. Yeah I watched it. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1261
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 4: yeah yeah. So he had to get money. He like

1262
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 4: a little late blooming to the party. But hey, look

1263
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 4: y'all can't overlook my razor backs now, you know, led

1264
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 4: by them two freshmen Dare's a Cuff and Maliite Thomas. Yeah,

1265
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 4: we got some boys over there get money. Oh yo,

1266
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 4: yeah me, yeah, okay, yeah, we got some boys out

1267
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 4: there getting money.

1268
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 3: Man. The young freshman's getting to it.

1269
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 5: We were on basketball time now, so you know, I

1270
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 5: got to I gotta lock in. I'm ready to hold basketball.

1271
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 7: Hey Joe, I thought I thought, Hey Joe, I thought

1272
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 7: he was going to a Hawks game.

1273
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 3: Mom, you gotta do it. Tell me when when you're

1274
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: coming down.

1275
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 7: I mean listen, I mean a game you want to

1276
00:59:58,800 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 7: pick a game.

1277
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 4: Pick a game, man, make sure we just get put

1278
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 4: put your put your foot on the wood.

1279
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 7: Get you right, Oh Joe, we're gonna see a cross side, yeah.

1280
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 3: Man, get you right. I just like you're gonna come down. Huh.

1281
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 3: You know you get a haircut, Joe. Joe at the.

1282
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 4: Hall's game, they cut here. Yeah, they've got boogie in

1283
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 4: there now.

1284
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 7: Oh Joe, Hey, hey Joe, but for real, we're gonna

1285
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 7: be courtside though.

1286
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 3: Come on, man, come on, I'm gonna get it right.

1287
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have us right.

1288
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 5: Hey, Joe, you got you got money, Joe, you got

1289
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 5: you got Hey, Joe, I can't wait he win the

1290
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 5: next good game though, we.

1291
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 3: Got we gotta look at the schedule and see.

1292
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,959
Speaker 1: Hold on, Oh Joe, did this man not just say

1293
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: she a true fan when I say people play to

1294
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: see superstars. And now he's saying, win the next good game.

1295
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 3: You see that? You see that, Joe?

1296
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 7: Hold on?

1297
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 5: But you have to understand, I'm not I'm not a

1298
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 5: basketball enthusiast.

1299
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 7: I'm still getting into the game. So I don't know

1300
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 7: anyone I know Young.

1301
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, Lebron, Johnnie. They go to see the stars. Yeah,

1302
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: that's what. That's why it's the star driven league.

1303
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,919
Speaker 3: You won't you need that? That's why.

1304
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know we're gonn talk about I

1305
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: think we're gonna talk about what's his name? The one

1306
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: that just traded to Atlanta from from uh the Warriors coaminga.

1307
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: You got the people that the reports is that if

1308
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: people are taking food, all the food taking food home?

1309
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 7: What's wrong with that?

1310
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 3: You can take not your homeboys.

1311
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 7: Go fooday?

1312
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 3: Anyway, there you go, thank Joe, Joe, Oh Joe.

1313
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 4: You can't okay if we allow you to bring your

1314
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 4: homeboys and when it's time to eat after prayer, you

1315
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 4: can't be having them in the fixing plates and all that.

1316
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 3: Come on? Now, yeah, what kind of I thought?

1317
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 7: This ain't no fair, This ain't no family.

1318
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 3: In when we have your family.

1319
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: Didn't have this type of setup. So y'all couldn't take

1320
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: this anyway?

1321
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 3: For pizza? Whoa whoa whoa?

1322
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 7: Hold on? We had that we cater We don't.

1323
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 5: We cater to the players and the family members. Mike

1324
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 5: brown feet every week.

1325
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: But please, you do realize I got no Marvin right,

1326
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: and Marvin and Marvin had to talk to Marvin. Mike

1327
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: brown just to get y'all decent food. Don't do that

1328
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: old joke.

1329
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 7: I don't know what kind of food we had her.

1330
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 7: You know, I leave to go eat. You know where

1331
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 7: I'm at.

1332
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have no choices to leave. You didn't have

1333
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: nothing to eat y'all. Didn't y'all have peacea on Friday

1334
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: before Marvin got there?

1335
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 7: Pizza? Don't nobody want no pia?

1336
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 4: Everybody and wings on Friday?

1337
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 7: No, I don't like no Peter.

1338
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 5: I don't want no you know, you know you can

1339
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 5: catch me at hey, Joe, Hey, Joe, I appreciate that,

1340
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 5: Joe Bo.

1341
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna quest, but look, you gotta be respectful of situation.

1342
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: I get homeboys, My homeboys come in town. Hey Hey, Then,

1343
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: like man, I said, look going there, they sit down,

1344
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: We sit down, They get a couple slice of piece

1345
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: against some wings.

1346
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 3: We eat. It wasn't no getting no food and taking

1347
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 3: it out there. Man. I had to stop a due

1348
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 3: Oh yo did dude? I was like, damn, he doesn't show.

1349
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 3: What are you waiting for?

1350
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 6: Ye?

1351
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 3: I'm looking up like with damn. Man, he shot with

1352
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 3: thirty minutes ago and he's still sitting around here right.

1353
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: This joker loading up. You know how you, oh Joe,

1354
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: you know how you put your your jock and all

1355
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: your stuff in a bag. The larger bag this joker

1356
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: Doesne went and got him another larger bag and take

1357
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: by fifteen sixteen gatorade home to night. Damn, I said,

1358
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: my man, I said, my man, that is what we do.

1359
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: I said, is it worth you getting cut over? Because

1360
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna happen if Mike didn't find out you're

1361
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: doing this?

1362
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 3: Why right? And you're doing it every day? You do

1363
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 3: it every day? Damn? Come on, bro, Ah, you're right,

1364
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 3: You're right. I'm like, bro think man.

1365
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, most people, most family and

1366
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: friends are not gonna put you in harm's way because

1367
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: when they're gone, you're still there.

1368
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 3: They're gonna be looking at you sideways.

1369
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 5: Hey on a Joe, y'all don't think that's petty though, Hey,

1370
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 5: team worried about you know, your people taking food.

1371
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 7: We talk about food, so.

1372
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta give us more contents? Did he

1373
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: sit there and eat then gave a big hold on

1374
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: somewhere around Jonathan Comedians were reporting taking too much food

1375
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: from the Warriors family room. Per Anthony Slater, he knew

1376
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: management wanted to ding him for missing team requested events

1377
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: and alert him that someone around him was taking too

1378
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 1: much food from the family room. The rights between the

1379
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: player and the organization, as multiple sources said, had become

1380
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: petty in the fifthear of the relationship, and many believe

1381
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: ended years before.

1382
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 7: You heard that keyword that I already said, petty. Yeah,

1383
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 7: I think it's petty.

1384
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 5: I mean, and it's a family room. You're not Now

1385
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 5: you're trying to chast out and tell my family how

1386
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 5: much food they get.

1387
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 3: What is first? You're not Steph Curry. Steph Curry can

1388
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 3: take whatever he wants. You're not him.

1389
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: You have to understand, oh, Jo, there are things that

1390
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: you could do in Cincinnati that lesser players couldn't do. Yeah,

1391
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: we understand. There's a pecking order. It's called production in tolerance.

1392
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: When your production is high, tolerance level for bs is

1393
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: even higher.

1394
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 5: Mmm.

1395
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: So this notion the thing he could do with Steph

1396
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: and what Draymond can do? Bro, when I can when

1397
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: look when my my homeboys came, my homeboy got sideline passes.

1398
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: God's look at me and like, hey man, you your

1399
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: homeboys on the sideline. I was like, Yeah, I'm like,

1400
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: why do you like?

1401
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 3: Man, I ain't gonna even ask because I already know

1402
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 3: that answers.

1403
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 2: No.

1404
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: But my family was on My Homeboys was on the sideline.

1405
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: John had you on the sideline. TV could have people

1406
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: on the sideline. There are a few other guys, but

1407
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: everybody's not like that. You gotta understand your position in

1408
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: the organization. Now he gives you twenty two twenty, he

1409
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: gives you twenty twenty two A night Joe five and five. Hey, bro, Hey,

1410
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, what you need to take

1411
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: the gonna they're gonna fish you up something to take home.

1412
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 3: They gonna have you a bag to go. Bag ready?

1413
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I understand what y'all saying. Obviously, you know

1414
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 7: there's a pecking order. There's certain things you can and

1415
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 7: cannot do. But family bring me. I just think it's

1416
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 7: kind of petty to me.

1417
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I understand what you guys are saying, and

1418
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 5: how you see it just a family room or were

1419
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 5: taking too much food. Hell, Kminga probably had him do

1420
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 5: it on purpose to hurrip and expect like his way

1421
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 5: up out of there.

1422
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it's a bad run. Yeah, yeah, bro,

1423
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 4: it's a relationship gone bad.

1424
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's basically let When the man wasn't even playing

1425
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: and then he played a little bit in the postseason

1426
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: last year, this relationship should have been ended. It's kind

1427
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: of like you bring somebody to the you bring somebody

1428
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: to the cookout, and then all of a sudden they

1429
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: taking four five places up out of there.

1430
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,439
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna say it's just food. You're like, hold

1431
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 3: on row.

1432
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 7: Oh whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa, whoa whoa.

1433
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 3: But that's how they were viewing it.

1434
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: The reports like Steve Kerr reportedly wanted to develop Jonathan

1435
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: Kaminga into a Sean Marriott Aaron Gordon type, but Kaminga

1436
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: viewed himself as a future All Star and wanted more

1437
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 1: on ball opportunities Kamingo career developed. Kaminga believed that he

1438
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: had shown enough in a supplementary war role to have

1439
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: earned more consistent trusts on ball opportunities. Neither happened to

1440
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: his liking, Soors has said, only hardening his belief that

1441
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,919
Speaker 1: Kerr and general manager Mike Dunnleavy would only ever view

1442
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,959
Speaker 1: him as a fast run, fast jump high athlete without

1443
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 1: a requisite skill.

1444
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 3: To lead to be a lead option.

1445
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,479
Speaker 4: M Hey, look I'm out here. I got uncle Ocha.

1446
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 4: I'm looking for kaminga way. Yeah, I'm watching the house game.

1447
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn w a, he gonna play. I'm looking

1448
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 4: for him so here. He didn't start line up with

1449
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 4: the Hawks. I ain't seen him play. Nah, he ain't played.

1450
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 4: I don't think he played the game yet.

1451
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 3: Is he hurt?

1452
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 7: He probably, he probably hurt.

1453
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. They I don't know.

1454
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 4: They probably give him some time to give to get

1455
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 4: rid of or whatever. But yeah, to get acclimated. But

1456
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 4: the faster they can incorporate him, the better off they'll be.

1457
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 3: Man.

1458
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 4: I think him and Jalen Johnson can really make some noise.

1459
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 4: But Ocho with him and the Warriors, with Kminga and

1460
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,440
Speaker 4: the Warriors, that was just a bad relationship.

1461
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 3: Bro. They let it, but they couldn't.

1462
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 4: They couldn't let him walk away for nothing, So they

1463
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 4: had to get some conversation for him, you know what

1464
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 4: I mean.

1465
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:51,759
Speaker 3: So that's why they re signed him.

1466
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 4: And I guess they just pretty much used him for

1467
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,719
Speaker 4: bait and like, at the worst case, we just gonna

1468
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 4: sit him down right here until we can trade him,

1469
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1470
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 3: That's in basketball, man, that's how they'll do you. Bro.

1471
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: I'm just but did he realize like Sean Marion was

1472
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: an All star. Yeah, Sean Marion turned himself into an

1473
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: All star. It was a major contributor on the championship

1474
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: winning team.

1475
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 3: Man. Listen, you ain't have to run no plays.

1476
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 4: Oo, you didn't have to run now one player and

1477
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 4: he was gonna have twenty and ten every night every night.

1478
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 4: You look in the stats sheet, dude got twenty two points, twelve, rebound,

1479
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 4: twenties and play and he had the great defense. And

1480
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 4: he had the fastest second jump I've ever seen in

1481
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 4: a uh in a basketball player like he is, Like

1482
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 4: he would shoot the miss on purpose.

1483
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 7: Just hey, he had the funniest shot released too.

1484
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah he did, he did. Yeah, he had a

1485
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 3: little funny shot. But it was cash though. You in

1486
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 3: that corner and then woe yeah three three ball in

1487
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah he was cash by Yeah.

1488
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 1: But I mean, bro, come on, first of all, you

1489
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: take making stuff home is different than a family member

1490
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: or friends taking stuff home. You know how that goes

1491
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: that Just like you you can go you can go

1492
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 1: back to the training room, you can wear stuff up

1493
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: out of there.

1494
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 3: But you can't your family friends like, hey, hey just

1495
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 3: grab stuff. You can't do that. I mean, that is

1496
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 3: so unprofessional.

1497
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: I don't even know why he would even want to,

1498
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 1: like to put the I don't even know why family

1499
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 1: and friends would They say friends, but I don't even

1500
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: know why they would put him in that situation. Joe,

1501
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't so, Hey, you gotta understand some family members

1502
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: don't don't understand the etiquette you got to come with,

1503
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 1: okay ocho, especially if some that ain't never really been

1504
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: to a professional game.

1505
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:41,560
Speaker 4: I'm just speaking from experience, Like you know, you have to.

1506
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 4: You have to put them in their place, like look, look,

1507
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 4: don't be up in here main and he eating up

1508
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 4: all everything up in there insight. Don't be asking. Don't

1509
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 4: be asking for no autographs. Don't be a man.

1510
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 3: Can I get the gloves? Man? Don't be trying to

1511
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 3: sign my football man, don't do it here. Don't do that.

1512
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 7: Hey, Hey, that's that's me right there.

1513
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 3: Don't do that. That's me.

1514
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 5: Hey, Hey, Joe, I go I go to games where

1515
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 5: I get to ask them about the NFL player. Joe, Joe,

1516
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 5: I actually I got I never played in the NFL before.

1517
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 5: What I'd be excited to see people. I'll be excited

1518
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 5: to meet new players. I'll be asking for pictures and

1519
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,600
Speaker 5: ship I'm like, and they looking at me crazy, like

1520
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 5: you want a picture with me?

1521
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 7: I say, yeah, man, I want to picture. Man, come on, man,

1522
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1523
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1524
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: That's how we behave, bro, because when you leave, that's

1525
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: a reflection on me. People looking at me sideway Man,

1526
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: you know shop homeboys. Man, they know how to act.

1527
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 7: I think he probably told me to do that on purpose.

1528
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 4: Man, but you look, you hook him up. You hook

1529
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 4: him up with a little careen pagage though, you make

1530
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 4: get a little something.

1531
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, I've had already told Flip, Hey, Flip, I

1532
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: got some homeboys coming.

1533
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 3: Can they get a pair of shorts? Can they get it?

1534
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 1: Can you know a couple of T shirts, a couple

1535
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 1: of half Hey problem, I have it sitting in your locker.

1536
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: Because everybody don't get that right or stood. But you

1537
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: also understood, like I said, people that's never been in

1538
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: that situation, y'all don't get it. Y'all talk about a

1539
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: billion dollar organization. Okay, you worked for Microsoft, you work

1540
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: for Amazon. Take your Let your homeboy go up in there.

1541
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: And do whatever the f they want. They work want

1542
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 1: way more than NFL teams. And see what happened, y'all,

1543
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: don't I just wish people just got it and just

1544
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: stop thinking so reckless. You're a professional. This ain't no,

1545
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 1: just ain't know somebody, I'm going I'm going to uh

1546
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: down down the street of Miss Lucia house.

1547
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, I mean, I understand you, junk Joe. I

1548
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 5: understand both of y'all.

1549
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, man, we talked

1550
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 7: about food.

1551
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 3: Who they're preparing. The food for.

1552
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 7: The family is in the family area, this for the team,

1553
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 7: it's said family.

1554
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 3: Oo.

1555
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 4: I remember I told you the story about how the

1556
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,799
Speaker 4: coach saying we went to the buffet, it's.

1557
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 1: All you can eat, not all you can eat and

1558
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: take out. That's that's the difference. It's all you could eat,

1559
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 1: not all you could eat and take out?

1560
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 7: Right?

1561
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 3: And how does that hooe? How does that look? How

1562
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 3: does that look? Joe?

1563
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: Joe there, Joe got full homeboys in. Each of them

1564
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: got two plays leaving the facility. Yeah, they ain't having that,

1565
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 1: o Joe.

1566
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 7: I got I got y'all. I understand, Hey, but I

1567
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 7: think I bet he said, Man, y'all get what y'all want. Man,

1568
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 7: I don't care.

1569
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to be.

1570
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 7: I don't want to be No, goddamn.

1571
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:39,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it probably was.

1572
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: It probably was some panes every turn and responded to

1573
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: the situation tweeting. I remember one time my coach said

1574
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 1: he viewed me as Richard Jefferson, and that was the

1575
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 1: first time I truly understood Latrell's free will ps I

1576
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: trade the career I had for Richard Jefferson, So it

1577
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: ain't no shade. I just thought I was Kobe.

1578
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, But that's the reality it is that you

1579
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 4: get when you come into the NBA. O ya, I'm

1580
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 4: telling you, and you great your whole life. On every

1581
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 4: team you've played on, you started, you've been the guy. Again,

1582
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 4: you get around some real pros, dude who's been in

1583
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 4: the league eight, twelve, fifteen years, then you kind of

1584
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 4: see the big difference, like, dam I'm talented, but I

1585
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 4: ain't that damn talented, you know what I mean? Like, Yeah,

1586
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 4: it's an eye opener, bro, especially for guys who've really

1587
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 4: been held on that pedestal since they were thirteen fourteen

1588
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 4: years old, right, yeah, and how many and Richard Jefferson

1589
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 4: played what seventeen eighteen years?

1590
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he played, he played eighteen years, won or title.

1591
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: With the Calves, went to two with Sydney, go to

1592
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: with the Nats. He went twice with the Nats, back

1593
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 1: to back, right to the Yeah, but they lost. He

1594
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 1: lost to the first and I think they lost. They

1595
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: lose to the Lakers or Lakers. Yeah, So that was

1596
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 1: my draft class. He went Richard Jefferson went twelve. I

1597
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: went ten in that draft.

1598
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 3: Oh one.

1599
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: See, I mean that's the thing. Look, sometimes we are

1600
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 1: our biggest our biggest enemy because everybody viewed themselves, Oh Joe,

1601
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: everybody views themselves as Jared Rice or or or Lawrence

1602
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: Taylor or Reggie white Man. Just let me, just let

1603
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 1: me grow. Only time gonna tell that's it, that's it.

1604
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: But guys don't have patience, no more than now Joe Jordan.

1605
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 1: Oh Jo God, Hey, I want what I want right now, Joe,

1606
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: I want it right now.

1607
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 3: Let me get that. And if I can't get it,

1608
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make stuff uncomfortable.

1609
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: And then you go somewhere else and guess what, never

1610
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 1: to be heard from a scene again, right, absolutely, right,