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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the city of Indianapolis, where

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Speaker 1: we are broadcasting from this evening and will for the

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Speaker 1: next three days as the NFL scouting Combine is underway.

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermer, John Harris with you. Bill O'Brien on the

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Speaker 1: show in a minute or so, and we'll have Sage

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Speaker 1: Rosenfell's former Texans quarterback, plenty of opinions from him. We'll

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Speaker 1: go behind enemy lines visit with Matt Taylor, the voice

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Speaker 1: of the Colts Little Indie intel as well. There, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: how are you as we get rolling here with the combine? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: feeling a little dicey at everybody's sick here. It's going around.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I woke up this morning. I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh man, it's called indie ailment. I thought, am I

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to make it today? I was like, No,

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Speaker 1: it's combine. Yeah, play hurt, You've done it. You're hereat

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Speaker 1: gotta play hurt. I mean, I did take a flight yesterday,

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Speaker 1: but I would have taken a bus to get here.

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Speaker 1: I would have done the de Sean thing to get here.

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien's press conference up on Houston Texans dot com.

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Speaker 1: All the highlights from it and on all the social

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Speaker 1: media platforms. Your biggest takeaway from the press conference before

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Speaker 1: we get to our conversation that Brian Game will be

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Speaker 1: talking tomorrow, Yeah out potentially some of the key fot

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Speaker 1: everything he didn't want to answer tonight. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: think that's that's pretty much the way it goes. And

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling that Brian will tomorrow, he will

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Speaker 1: stand up and he will say these are business conversations

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Speaker 1: that will stay between the team and the play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's you're not gonna get much. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: but you're not gonna you're not gonna get much out

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Speaker 1: of it. But um, actually, we had had a great

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Speaker 1: time with Billy Brown. I thought we had a really

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Speaker 1: good time. He was asking more kind of procedural stuff

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Speaker 1: about the team and some of the coaches. But then

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Speaker 1: well we got a chance to dive into the combine aspect,

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Speaker 1: the draft aspect, and that was really fun we did

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Speaker 1: and it sounded like this, So what's it like to

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Speaker 1: be here now as such a veteran coach? You look around,

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Speaker 1: You've been in this for a while, six six years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: going on six years. Yes, are you guys tired of

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Speaker 1: me yet? No, that's the right answer it now, I

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Speaker 1: think I think just for me, uh, you just you understand,

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Speaker 1: You know where you need It's really just the process

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Speaker 1: of it. You know where you need to be. You know,

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Speaker 1: wigh ins have some other committee meetings. I have to

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Speaker 1: go to things like that, but it's it's really just

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Speaker 1: understanding the routine. Relative to one year here as a

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Speaker 1: Even though you've been here as an assistant, it's different

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Speaker 1: when you're a head coach. Coach along those lines, have

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Speaker 1: you changed much of the process the way that you

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Speaker 1: go about things, whether it's players combine, how you you

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Speaker 1: streamline things a little bit more, not you've done it

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Speaker 1: going on your sixth year, I think changed much in

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Speaker 1: this I would say. I would say I try to

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Speaker 1: Johnny as best that I can. I try to watch

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Speaker 1: all of these guys, especially the guys we're going to interview,

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Speaker 1: but really all all of the guys, I try to

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Speaker 1: last couple of years I've been able to at least

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Speaker 1: get a glimpse and then I'll go back and do

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Speaker 1: more work. Because it's about a process, right, you know.

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Speaker 1: You watch these guys on tape, and and then you

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Speaker 1: I think, when I'm here, Johnny, I think I'll probably

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Speaker 1: One of the aspects that you're twenty eighteen team, and

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Speaker 1: And so I think relative to that, your knowledge of

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Speaker 1: Hot tough is this time of year for you? As

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Speaker 1: think that's been tough for me, Johnny. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: trying to do what's best for the Houston Texans in

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Speaker 1: a model of hey, look, this is what we think

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Speaker 1: These are type of players we believe in, and let's

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Speaker 1: see if we can build a team that way. We

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Speaker 1: like the team's putting it on his shoulders. You do

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Speaker 1: for over four thousand yards and and I'm feeling had

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Speaker 1: nine straight games over one hundred yards and broke some records.

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Speaker 1: But that's not one that's out what the Vikings want.

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Speaker 1: They don't want a quarterback that sets, you know, team records. Right.

431
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Speaker 1: This is a This is a defensive minded team. Run

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Speaker 1: the football, you know, no turnovers, throw the ball twenty

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Speaker 1: five max thirty times a game. Let's win that way,

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Speaker 1: twenty four to seventeen. It's ugly, but it's a winning

435
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Speaker 1: To count them up and they've got eleven and go

436
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Speaker 1: to the playoffs last year with John d. Filippo for

437
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Speaker 1: thirteen games. That was not their philosophy was put a

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Speaker 1: lot of Kirk Cousins as if he really was a

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Speaker 1: twenty eight million dollars talent, like an Aaron Rodgers or

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Speaker 1: a you know, a Drew Brees or a Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: or yeah, Peyton man or Tom Radio. Those types of

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Speaker 1: guys where this guy's gonna carry us, Russell Wilson, this

443
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Speaker 1: guy's gonna carry us. If the Vikings are asking for

444
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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins to carry them, they're gonna miss the playoffs. Again,

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Speaker 1: what's it gonna be like with Kubiak working in Minnesota?

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Speaker 1: Perfect hire, really a perfect hire. And it's an interesting

447
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Speaker 1: scenario because Kevin Stefanski's the new offensive coordinator. He's been

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Speaker 1: in that facility. When I was there in two thousand

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Speaker 1: nine after I got traded from Houston to Minnesota, he

450
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Speaker 1: was our quality control coach, right. He was like the

451
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Speaker 1: youngest guy in the staff, played football at Penn. Very

452
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Speaker 1: smart guy. His dad actually at his Stefanski longtime general

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Speaker 1: manager in the NBA, so he's been around sports his

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Speaker 1: whole life. But he played football at Penn. So I

455
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Speaker 1: was he's a very smart guy, and I loved him

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Speaker 1: as a quality control guy. But we would talk about

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Speaker 1: at that time, man, this offense. I just came from

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Speaker 1: in Houston with Gary Kubiak and Kyle Shanahan. And of

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Speaker 1: course I didn't bring up Matt Lafleur, who's now a

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Speaker 1: head coach of Green Back, but he was a quality

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Speaker 1: control guy on that team as well. I mean, I

462
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 1: love the play action, and we would take these average

463
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Speaker 1: running backs and make him pretty good. You know, Ron

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Speaker 1: Dane had some really good games, you know, and and

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Speaker 1: these other guys and and uh uh and sort of

466
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Speaker 1: made me better than maybe other team, you other coach

467
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Speaker 1: that made me in the past, or I could produce

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Speaker 1: more and and uh and you know put up you know,

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Speaker 1: pretty decent numbers. And so when I got to Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, this offense isn't like that. I

471
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Speaker 1: really wish I could be back in that Gary Kubiak offense.

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Speaker 1: And so with a guy like Kirk Cousins, it's a

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Speaker 1: really good fit. Well again, Stefanski. So ever since then,

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Speaker 1: he's always sort of followed Kubiak's and Shanahan's offense and

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Speaker 1: always sort of at one point when he was gonna

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Speaker 1: be a coordinator, he wanted to run that style. He

477
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Speaker 1: thought that was a great stock to make a quarterback

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Speaker 1: be able to go out there just execute again, run

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Speaker 1: the football, that play action, that bootleg stuff, gets some

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Speaker 1: easy completions, get him out of the pocket. It's great

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Speaker 1: for a guy like Kirk Cousins because you know, the

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Speaker 1: longer he has the ball in his hands, it seems

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Speaker 1: like catastrophes happened once or twice a game, and if

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Speaker 1: it get a you're not just straight dropping back or

485
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Speaker 1: and shot gun on first down and you can have

486
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Speaker 1: that balanced attack. And Kubiak and again Kyle Shanahan that

487
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Speaker 1: same with Sean McVeagh. They have an ability to get

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Speaker 1: guys wide open somehow. I don't know how they do it,

489
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Speaker 1: but they don't how to design these plays that would

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Speaker 1: you know, everyone knows Andre Johnson, we're trying to get

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Speaker 1: him the ball, yet somehow he's still catching one hundred

492
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Speaker 1: and twenty balls and somehow he's completely wide open on

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Speaker 1: some play action and Kevin Walter's blocking the defensive end,

494
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Speaker 1: Like how does how does that even happen? Because they

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Speaker 1: really understand like the real details and the real science

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Speaker 1: of the game. And I think Kubiak will really add

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Speaker 1: that to this Minnesota Vikings offense, who two years ago

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Speaker 1: in Pat Sherman when they won fourteen games, we're top

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Speaker 1: five in the league and rushing. Last year bottom three

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Speaker 1: in the league and rushing. They got to get that

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Speaker 1: rushing tack back up so they don't have the rely

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Speaker 1: on Kirk's arm for forty five throws a game. Sage

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Speaker 1: Rosenfell's joining us, what's it like to be in a

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Speaker 1: game where you're down and you got to throw your

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Speaker 1: way back into it? Because I remember match Shop said

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Speaker 1: specifically once sometimes that's kind of enjoyable in a way,

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Speaker 1: because all right, this is it. I mean, there's almost

508
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Speaker 1: nothing to lose, so to speak. I mean that's me

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Speaker 1: saying that, not him, But I got that feeling because

510
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Speaker 1: you were in some comeback situations. You had the great

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Speaker 1: comeback against the Titans and oh seven. I know the

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Speaker 1: Texans ultimately fell short of the eighth field goal of

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Speaker 1: the game by rest in peace, Yes, rest in peace,

514
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Speaker 1: but that was a heck of a comeback with four

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Speaker 1: touchdown passes by you late, four touchdowns in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: It's my I believe only at least positive NFL record.

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Speaker 1: Maybe there's a negative one out there somewhere, like interceptions

518
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Speaker 1: in the first quarter or something, But yeah, that was

519
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Speaker 1: a tremendous game, and I and then and speaking of

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Speaker 1: you know, being behind him and then having nothing losing comeback,

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Speaker 1: it's even better when Sea would get hurt and he

522
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Speaker 1: was the guy who gasps behind it. So now I

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Speaker 1: really have nothing to lose because it was my fault

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Speaker 1: for the first half when down twenty one, going yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I really got nothing to lose. So I

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Speaker 1: will say this. You know, when you're behind by seventeen,

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Speaker 1: you're behind by twenty one or whatever it is, and

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Speaker 1: you're late in the second half, you're gonna get more

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Speaker 1: simple coverages. You know, you're not gonna get all the blitz.

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Speaker 1: Defenses just want to keep the bond in front of them,

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna get a little more over two and

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Speaker 1: maybe a softer corner and just get completions. That's my

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Speaker 1: always thing. I always to tell young quarterbacks when you

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Speaker 1: step on the field, everyone wants to naturally take shots

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Speaker 1: on the field and hit that home run ball and

536
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Speaker 1: everyone sees the great throw. Just get completions. Get the

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Speaker 1: ball in those guys hands. I always thought the football

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Speaker 1: for me is a court. It's a hot potato. Like listen,

539
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna go anywhere we ain't gonna score touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: The longer the balls in my hand, if we can

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Speaker 1: get it in Andrey Johnson's hand, or Jacobe Jones's hand,

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Speaker 1: or Owen Daniel's hand or Kevin Walter's hand, now we

543
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Speaker 1: got a chance to do something. But the longer it's

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Speaker 1: in my hand, bad things you're probably gonna happen. So

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Speaker 1: I was about, you know, getting completions, getting the ball

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Speaker 1: in my hands. That's just some of our conversation with

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Speaker 1: Sage Rosenfelds. We'll feature a lot more of that in

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Speaker 1: the coming days. Here is he got way more in

549
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Speaker 1: depth on quarterbacking and other subjects as well. Matt Taylor,

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Speaker 1: Voice of the Cults. Coming up next, Enemy Intel and

551
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Speaker 1: then some including AFC South opinions. It's on the way

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Speaker 1: on Texans Radio. It's Texans Radio from the NFL Scouting

553
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Speaker 1: Combine and Andy. Now since we're here, it's the home

554
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Speaker 1: team of the Combine and Matt Taylor is the voice

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Speaker 1: of the Indianapolis Colts. John Harris and I visited with

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Speaker 1: him earlier to discuss numerous things, including, but not limited to,

557
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Speaker 1: some memories we would like to forget visiting right now

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Speaker 1: with the enemy Matt Taylor points of the Indianapolis. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how about that started that way? Yeah? Started the best

560
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Speaker 1: guys in the NFL right here. This is the way

561
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Speaker 1: you're gonna start this bitter. I'm sorry, I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: actually jelly because you got onto the divisional round and

563
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Speaker 1: obviously beat the Texans. You guys did. Uh, But let's

564
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Speaker 1: start here Kansas City. I don't want to start with

565
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Speaker 1: a bad thing for the Colts, Matt, but that was

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Speaker 1: a rough afternoon. I don't see it coming. I didn't

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Speaker 1: see it coming. I mean, they were giving up over

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Speaker 1: five yards per rush. They were like what thirtieth and

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Speaker 1: points allowed? And then they did the Colts what you know,

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Speaker 1: hadn't been done since Week eleven against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I thought the Colts are gonna

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Speaker 1: go in there and win that game. Everything pointed to

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Speaker 1: at least the game being really competitive, and it just wasn't.

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Speaker 1: The Colts got off to a really bad start in

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Speaker 1: that game. They got down fourteen to nothing. The Chiefs

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Speaker 1: did to them what the Colts had done to the other.

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Speaker 1: You know, the two weeks prior to the Titans and

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Speaker 1: the Texans in the playoffs, so it was. It was

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Speaker 1: a weird game. Um, you know, the offensive line had

580
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Speaker 1: a hard time keeping rid of that penetration, which they

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Speaker 1: had been so good at doing. So it was kind

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Speaker 1: of a bizarro game for the Colts, and unfortunately it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a season ender. Matt. I was at the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and I talked to Chris Ballard, who I've

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Speaker 1: known for a long time. See you don't You're not

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Speaker 1: the only one that could name drop, by the way,

587
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Speaker 1: Mark I could do it as well. I talked to

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Speaker 1: Chris had a long time and it was interesting because

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Speaker 1: he mentioned something and it kind of got in my

590
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Speaker 1: kind of maybe told the story of the Texans too.

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Speaker 1: I asked him about that game. He says, you know, John,

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Speaker 1: he goes, I think we just ran out of gas.

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Speaker 1: And it made a lot of sense. You guys started

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Speaker 1: one in five. You had no margin for air. Every

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Speaker 1: single week Miami at home, you come from behind the Giants,

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Speaker 1: you come from behind. You have to beat us on

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Speaker 1: the road, and you do that. Every game was a

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Speaker 1: must win. There's no margin for air. It felt like

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Speaker 1: you got the divisional playoff run in some set. You're

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Speaker 1: playing with house money, and I don't think the team

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Speaker 1: relaxed or anything like that, but it just seemed like,

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Speaker 1: and I think Chris was right, you guys ran out

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Speaker 1: of gas. I think we ran out of gas against

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Speaker 1: you guys a week before. But it felt like, and

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Speaker 1: as he said, you guys just kind of the tank

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Speaker 1: was empty. Yeah, and also done everything, and all week

607
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Speaker 1: long everybody was talking about the Chiefs defense in the

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Speaker 1: same vein I was. And so I think that was

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a bolton board material on their part,

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Speaker 1: not anything the Colts were saying, but you know, the

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Speaker 1: media and all the people talking about that game game

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Speaker 1: going into it. But I think there's something to that

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Speaker 1: because the Colts were one in five and then they

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Speaker 1: let one slip away against the Jets and make six.

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Speaker 1: You know, they kind of squandered that game. And then

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Speaker 1: after that they had this coming to Jesus moment, a

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Speaker 1: players only meeting in the locker room. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if that's the end all be all. I think

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Speaker 1: that's kind of overblown, but that was part of it.

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Speaker 1: Guys got healthy, and let's be honest, the schedule kind

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Speaker 1: of lightened up for the Colts. They took advantage of

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Speaker 1: some bad offenses, some not so good quarterbacks. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Colts only played two teams all year that had

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Speaker 1: top ten offenses, and in both those games they gave

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Speaker 1: up over thirty points. So, you know, you look at

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Speaker 1: the defensive numbers and the strides the Colts took on

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Speaker 1: that side of the ball, and it's it's admirable because

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Speaker 1: the year before they were thirtieth. This year they were

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Speaker 1: tenth in total defense, eleventh and points. So they took

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Speaker 1: a big jump. But they didn't play a lot of

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Speaker 1: really good teams offensively. You know, they only they played

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Speaker 1: the Patriots and the Chiefs, and uh, you know, in

633
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Speaker 1: certain respects, those two teams kind of exposed the Colts,

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Speaker 1: So I think there's something to them kind of running

635
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: out of gas. They won nine and ten to get

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. It was an emotional high beating the

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Speaker 1: Texans on the road. I've kind of was you know,

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Speaker 1: Frank Reich's um signature moment of the season, you know,

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Speaker 1: walking off the field saying the Colts are back, you know,

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Speaker 1: turning the corner, you know, four and twelve and drafting

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Speaker 1: third overall and then you know, having the season that

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Speaker 1: they that they turned in. I think that that Kansas

643
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Speaker 1: City game was just one of those. It just wasn't

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Speaker 1: their day and that they found out early. Plus it

645
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Speaker 1: was it was a lot colder that day than anybody

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Speaker 1: really anticipated. Not saying that's an excuse, but just one

647
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Speaker 1: of those days where the crowds amped up. They got

648
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Speaker 1: the number one overall seed. It's really cold. You're playing

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Speaker 1: with house money, like you alluded to, John, it was

650
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Speaker 1: just a perfect storm. But all things considered, unbelievable season

651
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Speaker 1: because we had no idea how good the Colts were

652
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Speaker 1: going to be for a lot of different reasons going

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Speaker 1: into the year. Matt Taylor and Voice of the Cults

654
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Speaker 1: with us on Texans Radio. So what are the needs?

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Speaker 1: I know everyone asks you this, but what are the

656
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Speaker 1: chief needs for the Colts? How to use the word chief?

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Speaker 1: What are the primary primary needs? Yeah? I think the

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Speaker 1: biggest things are edge play and on defense and then

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Speaker 1: wide receiver and Frank or excuse me, Chris Ballard's been

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Speaker 1: pretty honest about that. You know, he said in January,

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Speaker 1: we have to address that, whether it's in free agency

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Speaker 1: or the draft. Now, you guys know in free agency,

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Speaker 1: those guys, you know, the good one. It's hardly ever

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Speaker 1: hit the market because everybody needs them and not just

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Speaker 1: the Colts, So you're almost relegated to picking guys in

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Speaker 1: the draft based off potential and hoping they'd turn into

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Speaker 1: you know, the d Fords and then Robert Mathis is

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Speaker 1: of the world two and three years down the road.

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Speaker 1: You know the Colts again on defense, nobody really knew

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Speaker 1: how good they were going to be, especially upfront because

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Speaker 1: they had a lot of you know, nomad players, guys

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Speaker 1: that really hadn't done it before outside of Jabal she Sheared.

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Speaker 1: On one side, they drafted Kimoco Toure, but he was

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Speaker 1: a rookie. The Colts had thirty eight sacks last year,

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Speaker 1: which I think exceeded expectations from a total standpoint, but

676
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Speaker 1: only eleven and a half of those sacks came off

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Speaker 1: the edge, so they were getting a lot of linebacker sacks,

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Speaker 1: some up the middle penetration. So they need somebody to

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Speaker 1: compliment Sheared, who had five and a half sacks last year,

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Speaker 1: so that's big. And then I would say wide receiver

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Speaker 1: because outside of t Y Hilton, you know, the Colts

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Speaker 1: didn't have consistent play at wide out last year. Dontrell

683
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Speaker 1: Emmon's a free agent. Ryan Grants a free agent. Chester

684
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Speaker 1: Rodgers is a restricted guy, so really you don't have

685
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Speaker 1: that clear number two coming back. Dion Kane was injured

686
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Speaker 1: last year. He tore his ac on the preseason, so

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Speaker 1: they're high on him. He can potentially come back, but

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Speaker 1: when you know, August is probably the soonest and what's

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Speaker 1: he gonna look like? So those are big questions. Um.

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Speaker 1: I know the Colts got really great play out of

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Speaker 1: their tight ends last year. UM, so they can bank

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Speaker 1: on that going forward with Jack Doyle coming back and

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Speaker 1: Eric Ebron, but they need that number two to compliment

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Speaker 1: t Y Matt, I think one of the not ironic things,

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Speaker 1: but it's just interesting to me. The Colts have about

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Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars in cap room. Yet last year,

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Speaker 1: the biggest and best thing that Chris Ballard did the

698
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Speaker 1: draft was tremendous. But he basically finds Eric Ebron sitting

699
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Speaker 1: on the top of the Walmart bargain basement DVD bin.

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Speaker 1: He gets the deco he brings. Yeah, he gets an

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Speaker 1: Eco autry in. And I mean guys like Kenny Moore, Kennymore.

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Speaker 1: I mean you talk about sacks. I think Kenny Moore

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Speaker 1: had about ten against US coming off the edge. He

704
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Speaker 1: found value in players that other teams saw as not

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Speaker 1: as valuable, and he turned them and the team turned

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Speaker 1: them into something way more than they probably even expected, right,

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Speaker 1: Deniko Uchard Kennymore. I to me that was kind of

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Speaker 1: the story that Colt's team, outside of obviously Luck to

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Speaker 1: come back and in the rookie class, the bargain basement,

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Speaker 1: DVD bin section, and those players they brought in, they

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Speaker 1: were killers for us. And then Margus Hunt turned into

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Speaker 1: a player. I don't know where that came. Pierre Pierre

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Speaker 1: to see her exactly, mean what Pierre to see her

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Speaker 1: dude did late in the season twice against DeAndre Hopkins. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was nothing short of awesome. Right. So, Yeah, the

716
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Speaker 1: problem that Chris is gonna have this offseason because Don

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Speaker 1: trell Imman came in in the middle of the season

718
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Speaker 1: and he established really good rapport and was productive with

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. You brought up Margus Hunt. I mean Margus

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Speaker 1: had I think thirteen and a half tackles for loss,

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Speaker 1: I think five sacks. Those numbers blow what we were

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Speaker 1: used to seeing out of Margus out of the water.

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Speaker 1: I mean in Cincinnati, he wasn't that guy in his

724
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Speaker 1: second year with the Colts, he just explodes and now

725
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Speaker 1: he's a free agent. He's thirty two years old, so

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Speaker 1: he's what he's turned in last year is not indicative

727
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Speaker 1: of what the back of his football card says, right,

728
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Speaker 1: So you have to weigh, Okay, is margut is this just?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Was that an aberration? Or is can we

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Speaker 1: expect that from Margus in year three in India if

731
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Speaker 1: we extend him? So, plus he's thirty two, same thing

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Speaker 1: with Pierre to see here he's twenty eighth. They have

733
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Speaker 1: they have to make a decision on Nase Good. You know,

734
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Speaker 1: he's more of a complimentary player, but same type of

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Speaker 1: thing Mike Mitchell, who played for the UH the Veterans

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Speaker 1: minimum last year. So frank hat or excuse me, Chris

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Speaker 1: has to weigh what do I do with these guys

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Speaker 1: that were so big in establishing the culture that we

739
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Speaker 1: want to implement while they compliment the younger guys were

740
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Speaker 1: trying to build around how much how much is that

741
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Speaker 1: worth versus what we're gonna have to pay them as

742
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Speaker 1: those guys try to cash in for the last time

743
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Speaker 1: in their career. Matt Taylor, voice of the Cults joining

744
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Speaker 1: us what do you think is going to happen in

745
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville at quarterback? I think I think they're gonna get Foals,

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Speaker 1: and then I think they're gonna get a quarterback in

747
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Speaker 1: the draft. Some people say they're gonna trade up to

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Speaker 1: get Kyler Murray. I don't. I don't think. I don't

749
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Speaker 1: think that's a good idea. I don't think that's a

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Speaker 1: good idea. I think Foles has proven that he is

751
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Speaker 1: good enough to get you with that defense, and that's

752
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Speaker 1: the thing you have to You have to say this

753
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Speaker 1: about the Jacksonville Jaguars is they have to be aggressive

754
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Speaker 1: in fixing this quarterback problem because their window of opportunity

755
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: is right now. Right they're in a win now mode

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Speaker 1: with all those guys to have on that side of

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Speaker 1: the ball, plus they ever pretty decent offensive line. They

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Speaker 1: got Fournette coming back, and I know there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of drama there, but their window of opportunity is next

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Speaker 1: year and maybe the year after that. So they need

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Speaker 1: a quarterback right now, and I think Foles is good

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Speaker 1: enough to get them nine to ten wins. Johnny and

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Speaker 1: I were talking about how we talk about the jury

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Speaker 1: being out on certain players who come into the league

765
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Speaker 1: after two or three years. But you look at the

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Speaker 1: quarterback situation when Mariota and Winston went one and two,

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Speaker 1: and it feels like the jury is still out on them.

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Speaker 1: So Mariota in Tennessee obviously some really good things, but

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Speaker 1: injuries and other factors. They've had winning seasons, but they

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Speaker 1: just haven't been able to get over the hump the

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Speaker 1: way they want. They had that playoff year in seventeen,

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Speaker 1: but they have a winning season last year, unable to

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Speaker 1: get to the postseason. And now I think that speaks

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Speaker 1: to how good the division's going to be next year too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think the Colts are going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: The Texans aren't going to go anywhere. I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna improve. I would suspect you guys know this a

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Speaker 1: lot more than I do. Improve the offensive line, you

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Speaker 1: got that right, Maybe improve the secondary everything, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: which the Colts took advantage of. So but they've got

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Speaker 1: all the right pieces. You know. Maybe I don't know,

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Speaker 1: is is blue or excuse me bell a factor for

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Speaker 1: you guys. Well, we're gonna ask you ask you guys

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Speaker 1: the same question. You guys got a lot more money,

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Speaker 1: and it's interesting because knowing Chris, I would think that

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Speaker 1: Levion Bell isn't even a consideration. I would think they

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Speaker 1: like Marlon mack uh Naim Hines gives them some third

788
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Speaker 1: down situations, Jordan Wilkins gave him some good things. I

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Speaker 1: would think Levon Bill is not even the consideration. But

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Speaker 1: I was on the we were on a plane. We

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Speaker 1: were actually talking about this at dinner last night. Would

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Speaker 1: we actually think about Levon Bill? And I thought, you know,

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Speaker 1: I never want to rule anything out. Antonio Brown will

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Speaker 1: rule out Antonio Brown. There's no way. There's no way

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown would a lot of people. Why do you

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Speaker 1: say that though, just because for the same reason you

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Speaker 1: just talked about the culture in the locker room. The

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Speaker 1: culture in the locker room was a big thing for

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Speaker 1: you guys, for the culture it was for us. You

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Speaker 1: x out both those guys because they, I mean, Chris

801
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Speaker 1: is all about resigning guys like Jack Doyle and Adam Vinatarian,

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Speaker 1: Mark Glinsky, guys that do it the right way, and

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Speaker 1: he's big on that's sending a message to the rest

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Speaker 1: of the locker room. Hey, if you want to get resigned,

805
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Speaker 1: if you want to be here, if you want to

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00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: fit in with what we do. That's how you do it.

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Speaker 1: You can point to those guys in terms of their

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00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: character and how they demonstrate, you know, how they act

809
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Speaker 1: on the field and off the field. So, yeah, the

810
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: Colts just aren't to the point yet. And I talked

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Speaker 1: about this with the veteran guys, the complimentary pieces, that

812
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: the Colts just aren't to the point yet where they

813
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: can go out and spend big money in free agency,

814
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Speaker 1: even though they've got the cap space to do it.

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Speaker 1: They're just not to the point where they can go

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Speaker 1: out and spend money on guys that don't fit in

817
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Speaker 1: with what they're trying to build. Now. They might with

818
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Speaker 1: seventeen and eighteen and nineteen draft classes when those classes

819
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Speaker 1: are two and three and four years in the league

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Speaker 1: and they've been able to resign their own and develop

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Speaker 1: those guys. If they get the core of the team

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Speaker 1: through the draft the last couple of years set and

823
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Speaker 1: in place, then they might be able to go out

824
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Speaker 1: and bring in a guy that can take them over

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Speaker 1: the top. But I just don't think they're there yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one one player away, Okay, Yeah, absolutely, And I agree,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the way that the Texans would

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Speaker 1: like to be as well. You draft and you develop

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Speaker 1: your own and then when you need a piece, it's

830
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: been proved, manage things well with your cap, then you

831
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Speaker 1: can go out and do some things that you need

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00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: to do as opposed to. And why is Pittsburgh in

833
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: a situation it's in because last year they moved money

834
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Speaker 1: around with Antonio Bronn. I turned a salary into a bonus,

835
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: which meant they extended out the cap hit. And now

836
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Speaker 1: they're they're I mean, they're gonna move him, but it's

837
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Speaker 1: gonna cost a lot of money, not only in twenty

838
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: nineteen but also twenty twenty. Do you think Luck doesn't

839
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: get enough love sometimes nationally considering how good he is?

840
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: I know he's not altogether forgotten before the season, but

841
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: like I said, not projected to do what he did,

842
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: and he had an incredible campaign. And when we talk

843
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: about the great quarterbacks in the league, you have the

844
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: old guys, you have the young guys, and you have Luck,

845
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: who's middle age quarterback context, what do you think of that?

846
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Speaker 1: I don't know, define define love because in Indianapolis, obviously

847
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: we're talking about all the time. So how is he

848
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Speaker 1: viewed in Houston? Well, he's a Houstonian, right, so we

849
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Speaker 1: like that part. We don't like the Royal Blue. To

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Speaker 1: be honest, we hate Andrew luck for those three hours

851
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: every other minute the day. We love him because he's

852
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: everything that you want, except when he's playing Jack Savilla.

853
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: You need Jack Saville. I mean, oh yeah, listen to me. Yeah,

854
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean that those are interesting games right where you

855
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: hate both teams and when I say, hey, you know

856
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: how I showed it in a healthy way. And then

857
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, like when the Cowboys are playing any other

858
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: AFC South team, Yeah, go Cowboys. But I have to

859
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: I think to an end, and man, you know this,

860
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: you've been around the game for a while. I think

861
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: what ends up happening is the new the new blood

862
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: comes in. And then new blood comes in the form

863
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: of Patrick Mahomes and you know Carson Wentz and the

864
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: Carson has had some issues with injuries and some of

865
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: that things. You know, Deshan comes in. You know, at

866
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, class all three and went to the Pro Bowl,

867
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: so you know what's new and what's exciting. And then

868
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: of course this last draft class has got what five

869
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: first rounders and they all started for the teams and

870
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: so everybody wants to look at that, and then they

871
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: look at the old gray beards. And I think, to

872
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: Mark's point earlier, you know, Andrew's kind of kind of

873
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: in the middle. You know, he's not the youngest guy

874
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: in the league's twenty twenty eight, you'll be twenty nine

875
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: next year. He's not a gray beard in any way,

876
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: shape or form. So he's kind of in the middle.

877
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: And I think it was good for him. I think

878
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: the momentum that he gathered at the end of the

879
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: year kind of got back on board to say, hey, look,

880
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: when the national media sits down going into the twenty

881
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: nineteenth season and they start thinking about awards and different things,

882
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: and they don't want to give it back to Mahomes

883
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: because that just seems like they're following. They're probably gonna

884
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: say m VP Andrew luck I would almost guarantee that's

885
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: where they're gonna go. I think I think the residual

886
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: of the residue of last year, it's gonna mean that

887
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: more people are gonna be point at the Colts and

888
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: point at luck Well. The thing I mean, it's it's

889
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: ironic that we're talking because I think the throw that

890
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: impressed me the most all year was the throw that

891
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: he put on t Y Hilton in Houston. Yeah, down

892
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: the field. It was right down the middle of the field.

893
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: The Colts were down big in that game. That was

894
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: the throw. That was the play that kind of got

895
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: him back in the game. But I remember thinking to

896
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: myself right when it happened, that's the best throw that

897
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: I've seen Luck throw all year plus. I don't know

898
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: if he's able to put that on the money with

899
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: the arm strength and the accuracy and just the willingness

900
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: to attempt that pass in week three or four, like,

901
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: that's how far he came. So it was. It was

902
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: a It was miraculous, you know, the confidence that he

903
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: grew throughout the season, not only in himself but his

904
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: arm and his shoulder. And you just, again, you had

905
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: no idea. I don't think Luck had any idea what

906
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: this season was going to be like. But he's not

907
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: a look at me guy. He doesn't pound his chest,

908
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: but the one thing that he will point to the

909
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: feather in his cap. He'll say, I was healthy all year.

910
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: I didn't miss any practice. I mean, he was glowing

911
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: during the one in five stretch when he was just

912
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: talking about Yeah, today, I get to go to a

913
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: meeting today, I get to go live today, I get

914
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: to go to practice. Because all of that was taken

915
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: away from him. He was in a pretty dark place emotionally,

916
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: spiritually all of twenty seventeen because all of the focus

917
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: was on him. I mean, that's why he basically packed

918
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: his bags and moved to the Netherlands for a month

919
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: and a half because he just wanted to stay away

920
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: from the spotlight and get away from the team because

921
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: he was focusing or the spotlight was focusing on him

922
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,479
Speaker 1: and not the club. So for him to come back

923
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: and display that he can be durable, he can be

924
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: the same guy pre injury was a big, big thing

925
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Speaker 1: for him. All right. One more for you, Matt, Indianapolis.

926
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Speaker 1: What's it like to be the home team for the Combine?

927
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: It's awesome. I lived ten minutes away. It's a straight

928
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 1: shot south. I get to eat dinner with my wife,

929
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 1: which I know is a big thing for you guys. Um.

930
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: I get to play with my kid. I get to

931
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Speaker 1: sleep in my own bed, and then I wake up

932
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: and I come right back and hang out with you guys.

933
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Speaker 1: So it's perfect, best of both worlds. What's the best

934
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Speaker 1: thing for outsiders visiting Indianapolis to see or visit or

935
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: just pitch the city? Give me the elevator version. Got

936
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: you all right? So if you're in town for three days,

937
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: you have to go to hopefully you can check out

938
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: a pacer game. That's really cool, great building. Go to

939
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum. Oh yeah, I don't know

940
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: if you guys are. It's at the track. It's inside

941
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: the track all year long. They'll take you around the

942
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: track in the van. Kiss the bricks. Absolutely got to

943
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: I've done it. Um, so check that out. Uh. Their

944
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: steakhouses go lower yeah, all over the place, which you

945
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: guys are aware of. We're well aware of, painfully aware.

946
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: So uh but yeah, I mean it's it's the perfect

947
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: little city. It's a it's a small big town if

948
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: that makes sense, um or a big small town. Uh.

949
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: It's perfect for the final four because everything's right here.

950
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: It's compact, perfect for this. You guys don't have to

951
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: go outside for the first time to get coffee at

952
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: the at the good coffee place across the street. Okay,

953
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want at this table, don't you?

954
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: The combine food. Matt, thanks a lot, my pleasure. Guys,

955
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: there's Matt Taylor, the voice of the Cults. Now, we

956
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 1: had Bill o'brienon, we had Sage Rosenfels on. We're gonna

957
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: have a good time tomorrow with Brian Gaine on the program.

958
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Speaker 1: Houston Texas dot Com has plenty of coverage from the

959
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: combine and check out all the social media platforms as

960
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: well as We've been here all day and we'll be

961
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Speaker 1: here all week. Have a great night everyone, and go Texans.