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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, Season eighteen, episode number one, fifteen. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the latest edition of The Break Off s WBC

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Speaker 1: of our folks in with us today, Nick Eatman Brian

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Speaker 1: brought us both. Actually Nick's heading to Super Bowl right now.

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Speaker 1: Brian's already at Bowl, so they got things they're doing

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Speaker 1: out in Arizona. We are blessed though, today to have

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys gets a chance to see how the real

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Speaker 1: big dogs do it. Yes, every time we can, we

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Speaker 1: and as I was explaining before we went on the air,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You and Amver sit close to each other,

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Speaker 1: so you might already know this. But on the air, man,

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Speaker 1: she's a whole different person. On the air, she can

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Speaker 1: and all good, perfect, okay, good good. It won't be

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Speaker 1: this team, Uh, we're gonna talk about today what we

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Speaker 1: typically do this time of the year. It's the show

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Speaker 1: where we start trying to figure out how do we

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Speaker 1: fix whatever is wrong. Cowboys, although they had, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: what I would consider to be somewhat of a successful

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Speaker 1: season going twelve and five, getting the playoffs, getting a

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, how do you get over that hump? He

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Speaker 1: got a team that we feel like has a good

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Speaker 1: I want to start with Brian Schottenheimer. Cowboys announced this

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Speaker 1: week that Brian Schottenheimer has been hired as a new

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. I want both of you guys to tell

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Speaker 1: me what do you think this means. Obviously we know

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's calling plays, but what does disposition mean and

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Speaker 1: what do you think it brings to this team. Well,

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Speaker 1: for me, it means that the Cowboys offense is going

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Speaker 1: to look slightly different going into twenty twenty three for

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Speaker 1: obvious reason. It's not simply because you're looking at the

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Speaker 1: difference between two offensive coordinators. But primarily the reason it

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Speaker 1: doesn't the promotion doesn't necessarily move the needle for me

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Speaker 1: too much right or too much left. It's because, at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, it is it is Mike

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Speaker 1: if Schottenheimer can bring the what i'll call prime Brian

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Speaker 1: a top ten offense. Now, granted that was with Prime

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Speaker 1: change that could affect it as well. So if we

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Speaker 1: Schottenheimer brings over some intricacies that can help advance Mike

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Speaker 1: But here's the deal. The reason why it matters, and

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's ultimately going to be responsible for this offense.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and that West Coast offense in San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: He deploys a lot of motions, but at the base

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Speaker 1: does this end up? How has Mike evolved? Because my

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Speaker 1: suspicion is Mike has evolved. He's probably not the same

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Speaker 1: And we spoke about it off the offline, off the record.

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Speaker 1: going to take the best of Kellen Moore, I don't

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go through each position. We're gonna start with

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Speaker 1: throughout his career, there have been moments where it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: well he still needs growth. Well, the old line needs

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Speaker 1: to improve. Well the running game needs to work out

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Speaker 1: and create that type of balance for him. Well you

432
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Speaker 1: got a receiver by comedian, it's not really working out

433
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Speaker 1: to figure out the receiver. So's there's always been something

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Speaker 1: and I think that this year and obviously I'm we're

435
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Speaker 1: gonna talk about receivers. That's another issue there and like

436
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Speaker 1: everything else, okay, and now that ire again. But my

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Speaker 1: biggest thing with him this year would be to see

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Speaker 1: if if he does improve in just by having a

439
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Speaker 1: different voice that's other than Kellen Moore, because that's who

440
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Speaker 1: he's had this whole time and under Jason Garrett. I

441
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Speaker 1: think that just bringing it different, just to see how

442
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Speaker 1: his game actually changes a different perspective from someone that

443
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Speaker 1: is maybe watching from the outside and seeing just a

444
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Speaker 1: different view. You know, it helps being out of the

445
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Speaker 1: room sometimes and just building, creating your own thoughts and evaluations.

446
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Speaker 1: So to me, that's something that it's already maybe in

447
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Speaker 1: the works with just having Brian coming in and he's

448
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Speaker 1: a different guy, although not so much. And then the

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Speaker 1: backup position for quarterback, well, I'm not sure what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen there. I mean Cooper Rush he's becoming a

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Speaker 1: free agent, and Jerry Jones he's mentioned it already as

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Speaker 1: far as like the draft that they're hoping to draft

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Speaker 1: a quarterback every year. So we'll see how that works

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Speaker 1: out as well. But I'm curious to see what happens

455
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Speaker 1: and who would be the guy behind Dak. Yeah, it's

456
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Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see what happens. And quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: that to me is probably the bigger thing I'm wanting

458
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Speaker 1: to about this offseason. It's like it's the backup because

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, Dak Prescott is a good quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: I think there's what gets confused in some of the

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Speaker 1: commentary around Dak after that final game is people confuse

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Speaker 1: criticism of Dak in that game with Dak's not a

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Speaker 1: good quarterback. Dak had a bad game. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Dak played according to his standard. I didn't and that

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Speaker 1: that I think he was clear about that. I think

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Speaker 1: the difference is that doesn't mean Dak isn't your quarterback

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Speaker 1: of the future. That doesn't mean that Dak isn't as

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Speaker 1: good as what seventy five eighty percent of the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. He is up there in that top ten.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody says. I feel I am

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Speaker 1: a firm believer Dak Prescott is a top ten quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and you don't let those

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Speaker 1: kinds of guys walk right, He's gonna be here. So

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Speaker 1: that being said, it's not so much. And quite frankly,

475
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Speaker 1: I think the problems when you start talking about particularly interceptions,

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Speaker 1: I think you hit it on the head. That is

477
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Speaker 1: not a tradition, no problem for DA Dak is not.

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Speaker 1: That's an aberration. So I look at this season as

479
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Speaker 1: an aberration. I think the problems he was having that

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Speaker 1: we had a quarterback with interceptions, We're way more about

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Speaker 1: the surrounding cast. And so when we start getting to

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Speaker 1: some of these other positions, I think that's where the

483
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Speaker 1: conversations have to be focused on. To fix that part

484
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Speaker 1: of the Cowboys it's not so much Dak. I think

485
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Speaker 1: the backup quarterback becomes very very important because if Dak

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Speaker 1: is going to be the quarterback that I want him

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Speaker 1: to be from the standpoint of what he's going to

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Speaker 1: provide this team, it means he's gonna have to run,

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Speaker 1: which means there is some risk, which means the backup

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Speaker 1: quarterback is even more important. So for me, that's where

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Speaker 1: I'm focused right now, Like, who's going to be that

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Speaker 1: backup guy that if I lose Dak for two or

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Speaker 1: three games, because I'm asking Dak to be give me

494
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Speaker 1: more of that dynamic quarterback, the quarterback we see in

495
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl right now. Dad can be that kind

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Speaker 1: of guy, Jalen hurts, he can be that kind of

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Speaker 1: guy if I'm asking him to be that that I

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Speaker 1: got to have a suitable backup that if I lose

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Speaker 1: Dak for a few games, just like this season, we

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Speaker 1: don't miss a beat. We still have a way that

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Speaker 1: we can and win effectively. And I'm speaking as the coach,

502
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Speaker 1: we still have a way we can win effectively. Sell

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Speaker 1: the backup quarterback is probably the biggest question I have

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Speaker 1: a quarterback right now. I'm one hundred percent there with

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Speaker 1: you on Dallas Cowboys dot com. For those that haven't

506
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Speaker 1: followed the series, we have an offseason series that began

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Speaker 1: called What's Next, and we address every single position. And

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Speaker 1: on Monday I spoke about the quarterbacks, and of course

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Speaker 1: I touched on the interceptions needed to be improved and

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Speaker 1: how they could probably go about that, But most of

511
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Speaker 1: that right up was about the backup quarterback position. Because

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Speaker 1: as much as from a macro standpoint one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: agree Dak Prescott is the top ten quarterback, you don't

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Speaker 1: have No one has the numbers to disprove that. To me,

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Speaker 1: you don't have the film to disprove it. He has

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Speaker 1: bad games, so does Patrick Mahomes. So that's any of

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Speaker 1: those top guys you're going to name. But he's had

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Speaker 1: a running with bad luck when it comes to injuries lately.

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Speaker 1: He's not injury prone, let's make that distinction. He's not

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Speaker 1: injury prone, but he has missed some time over the

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Speaker 1: past couple of seasons. And when that happens, now you

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Speaker 1: the onus is on you to make sure that you

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Speaker 1: have a capable backup quarterback. You've seen that Cooper Rush

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Speaker 1: can do that, but he's going into free agency with

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Speaker 1: fairly high value. I think it's inarguable that Cooper Rush

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Speaker 1: is going into free agency this time with the highest

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Speaker 1: stock he's ever seen in the n He's better than

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Speaker 1: I'll put it like this, Cooper Rush is better than

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Speaker 1: at least five to eight NFL starting quarterbacks from last night.

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Speaker 1: And so now when you put that into the equation,

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Speaker 1: that means he's going to get some some pretty healthy offers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys tie that into the fact that the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: were witness seeing Will Grier really challenge Cooper Russian training camp.

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Speaker 1: There were times where we had these discussions. Will Grier

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Speaker 1: took the lead for the role of QB two, but

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Speaker 1: then suffered the growing injury that slowed him monumentally in

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Speaker 1: the preseason, and then Cooper Rush kind of got bumped

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Speaker 1: back up. So can a healthy Will Grier really be

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Speaker 1: your QB two? If you let let if you and

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Speaker 1: Cooper Rush part ways, because free agency is a two

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Speaker 1: way street, but then what at what round do you

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Speaker 1: go with your quarterback? Jerry Jones said, defend atively, Cowboys

543
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Speaker 1: are going to start drafting every year. But are we

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Speaker 1: talking to flyer sixth seventh? Are you willing to go

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Speaker 1: a little bit higher than the flyer fifth, which makes

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Speaker 1: it a little bit more of a mix between developmental

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Speaker 1: verse plus someone who might be ready to step in quickly.

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Speaker 1: That is the most more robust conversation at that position.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. The fact is, when you

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Speaker 1: start talking about quarterbacks and drafting quarterbacks, I wouldn't expect.

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Speaker 1: It's an aberration to expect a quarterback, even sometimes a

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Speaker 1: first round quarterback. But certainly when you're talking about fourth, fifth, six, seventh,

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Speaker 1: third round quarterbacks being capable of stepping in and playing

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Speaker 1: a role in year one, that just it doesn't happen

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Speaker 1: enough for me to rely on that. So the way

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Speaker 1: I look at this is Cowboys quarterback position is about

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Speaker 1: Cooper Rush and Will Grier, and one of those two

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Speaker 1: is going to have to be there in that spot.

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Speaker 1: And Will if it's Will Grier, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I personally thought at going into last when they were

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Speaker 1: about to make cuts, I was thinking Will Grier was

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Speaker 1: probably going to be the two, But for that injury,

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Speaker 1: I think he would have been. But that all being said,

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Speaker 1: I think it has to be one of those two.

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Speaker 1: You draft somebody there become the third guy. And you're

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Speaker 1: developing them in hopes that they can turn into Cooper Rush.

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Speaker 1: But Cooper Rush wasn't going to be able to do

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Speaker 1: what Cooper Rush did this year his rookie year. That's

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Speaker 1: just there's a reason why you either go undrafted or

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Speaker 1: you're drafted late, and at the quarterback position, even drafted

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Speaker 1: as early as the third, fourth, fifth round. Typically that

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Speaker 1: means you're not ready right now. And also not to

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Speaker 1: take away from Cooper Rush, because we gave him his

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Speaker 1: roses because they were due, but in his rookie year,

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Speaker 1: he didn't have the defense that he had complimenting him

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. So and for those that have

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Speaker 1: man forgotten, I love that you point out that the

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Speaker 1: odds of a fourth or even the third round or

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Speaker 1: later quarterback being able to step in immediately and make

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Speaker 1: an impact they are very very low, very low. But

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Speaker 1: I think people forgotten that Dak Prescott did exactly that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but no, no, I'm not saying that he's the norm.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that makes him that much more special in

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Speaker 1: what he's been able to achieve. So between that and

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Speaker 1: what he's put on film as a as a macro,

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Speaker 1: you can dissect the micro all day long, but as

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Speaker 1: a macro, that is a special guy. That's a leader,

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Speaker 1: and like you said, off the field and bar he's

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Speaker 1: above approach, like he's just bulletproof off well, looking back

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Speaker 1: at well his contract, we know that's a conversation right now,

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Speaker 1: and extending him will create a lot more space and

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Speaker 1: helped you with yeah, what you do this year, especially

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Speaker 1: in free agency and all that. Where do they think

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Speaker 1: his position stands now? Because we know how long it

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Speaker 1: took last time when they were working out a deal

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Speaker 1: together and him wanting certain things, the Cowboys another finality.

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Speaker 1: They obviously made it work. But do you think like

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Speaker 1: now the Cowboys have the apprehend in this whole situation

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Speaker 1: as far as extending him. Honestly, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's a necessarily an upperhand kind of thing, because when

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Speaker 1: you do those extensions like that, it usually is a

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Speaker 1: win win. The team gets more cap space and the

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Speaker 1: player gets more money. Like it tens is just work.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's happy. Players gonna get more money. They're just gonna

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Speaker 1: space it out and structure it differently so that the

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Speaker 1: team can actually get a benefit out of that an

607
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Speaker 1: increased amount of money. And right now, let's be honest

608
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Speaker 1: to some degree, when you start talking about the contract

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Speaker 1: with Dak, that's an old conversation in my opinion, because

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Speaker 1: at the time when they were doing the deal, and

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Speaker 1: we talked about this a lot at the time they

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Speaker 1: were doing the deal, it was a huge deal. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: it's not any huge deal anymore. This is like, we're

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Speaker 1: getting our money's worth, Like, this is worth it for

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Speaker 1: the amount of money you're paying, and where he is

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Speaker 1: if he's a top ten quarterback, because I think he is,

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Speaker 1: you're getting a bit of a deal, Like, so you're

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Speaker 1: not overpaying at this point. I mean, I just saw

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Speaker 1: an article last week that the expectation is that Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones is going to get forty million. You're getting a

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Speaker 1: deal like this is a good deal, right, this is

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Speaker 1: a good deal. So you know, I think the conversation

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Speaker 1: of Dak's contract is a bit overplayed at this point.

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Speaker 1: I think when it comes to an extension sometimes and

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how his deal is structure,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes these deals have triggers in him that the

627
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: player doesn't even have to sign off on. The team

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00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: already built it in where they can just basically flip

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Speaker 1: a switch and do it and it's automatically done. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the case here, but my

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Speaker 1: point is, in most of these kind of situations where

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Speaker 1: you're doing those extensions and that kind of stuff, it

633
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: really is just a win win. The players gonna get

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00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: more money, the team's gonna get more cap space, and

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00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: everybody's like, yeah, let's do this because it makes sense

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Speaker 1: for everybody. Yeah, and I agree. I don't think this

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Speaker 1: is a negotiating a negotiation as much as it is

638
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Speaker 1: just common sense. Right. Common sense says that if you

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Speaker 1: if you extend Dak Prescott right now, you'll save over

640
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Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars against toward your coup. Common sense

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Speaker 1: says that he's the top ten quarterback and those are

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Speaker 1: those don't fall off trees every day. So when you

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Speaker 1: Here's why it makes sense for us. It obviously makes

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Speaker 1: So before we end the show today, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: I have two questions for them. One, who do you

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Speaker 1: do both of those here in the final segment before

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Speaker 1: we end today show. Let's finish our conversation, though I

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Speaker 1: guess not even finish it. We're gonna be doing this

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Speaker 1: for quite a few weeks, going through these positions because

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Speaker 1: us too long to get through quarterback. We might get

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Speaker 1: through running back. But let's start Truman. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: the running back how we feel. Let's talk about the

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Speaker 1: running backround right now. Obviously, the Cowboys got got a

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Speaker 1: lot to consider it running back. They got an aging

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Speaker 1: running back who has been the main guy for a

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Speaker 1: number of years, who finally has got into a point

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Speaker 1: in his contract where the Cowboys could make a move.

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Speaker 1: You've got a guy who has been the backup who

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Speaker 1: this year I think has a planet the starter, and

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Speaker 1: by the end of the year he was playing as

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Speaker 1: though he were the starter. The Cowboys were using him

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Speaker 1: in that way in a lot of games. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, he's a free agent, so there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of things to consider here. What do you think is

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Speaker 1: the biggest focus for the Cowboys at the running back

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Speaker 1: position this offseason. I think they're going to try to

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Speaker 1: keep the band together between Ezekiel Elliott and Tony Pollard.

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Speaker 1: They want Zeke, they love Zeke, and justifiably so. The

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Speaker 1: impact of Zeke both on and off the field, particularly

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Speaker 1: in the locker room. He's one of the locker room

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Speaker 1: leaders as well. I mean, it's it's difficult to quantify

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Speaker 1: the value of Ezekiel Elliott, and kudos to him. The

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Speaker 1: maturity that has been exhibited this version of Ezekiel Elliott

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Speaker 1: versus the twenty sixteen version. Those are two completely different, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I say this all the time, but

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Speaker 1: I'll say it again. Any one of us, and I'm

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Speaker 1: talking anybody in this room or outside his room, all

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Speaker 1: the listeners. Think about yourself when you were twenty one,

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Speaker 1: and think about yourself when you were twenty seven, twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: twenty different human being. You are a different person. Allow

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Speaker 1: people to learn and grow, and he had. But you

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Speaker 1: gotta allow that doing it because not every also true,

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Speaker 1: not everyone does. Yeah, and not everybody does at that

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Speaker 1: rate too. Some people take some more like thirty five

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Speaker 1: before they get there, right but he has he has

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Speaker 1: some hard knocks that helped him flip that switch fast.

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Speaker 1: But I think, I think, and I'm on record of

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Speaker 1: saying this, and I'm not speaking for Ezekiel Elliot. I'm

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Speaker 1: speaking about Ezekiel Elliott when I've said time and again,

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Speaker 1: I believe that he would be amicable to taking a

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Speaker 1: pay cut if that pay cut were used to keep

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Speaker 1: Tony Pollard in the building. I think he and Tony

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Speaker 1: Pollard both understand that together they extend each other's careers.

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Speaker 1: So that's a talking point when you approach Tony Pollard

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Speaker 1: there's not anough traction with Tony Pollard just slapping with

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Speaker 1: the franchise tag it's only ten million dollars you pay,

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Speaker 1: don't show it's more than that. Eight hundred thousand more

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Speaker 1: than that. It was ten point nine for tight end

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Speaker 1: last year, ten point one for a running back, franchise

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Speaker 1: tag him. Hopefully, get a pay cut on Ezekiel Elliott

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Speaker 1: to lessen your hit at the position and then continue

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Speaker 1: to develop me Lee Davis behind them, who might be

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Speaker 1: really in play for next offseason depending on how things

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Speaker 1: go with the Zeke and Tony Pollard. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think you just keep the band together. Yeah, I freaking

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Speaker 1: I love both of them, and I really really love

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Speaker 1: zee and just everything that you mentioned. I don't need

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Speaker 1: to repeat any of that. But part of me, and

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Speaker 1: that's ideally what I would want to see happening, just

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Speaker 1: keeping them together. But then part of me also sees

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Speaker 1: the way that they were able to develop a guy

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Speaker 1: like Malie Davis and the way that we hear it

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Speaker 1: every single year, how quote unquote easy it is to

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Speaker 1: draft a running back and plug in the player, fresh legs,

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Speaker 1: young guy have that kind of speed, a new energy

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Speaker 1: bringing in to the team. So seeing how successful those

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Speaker 1: three running backs where, and even Malie Davis, he didn't

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Speaker 1: play that whole lot, but when he did, he showed

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Speaker 1: you the things that he can do, it leads me

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Speaker 1: to think that possibly we will part ways with one

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Speaker 1: of them, either Zeke or Polar. I don't I could

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Speaker 1: see where they don't keep both, They keep maybe one,

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Speaker 1: and then Malik Davis is still here, and then you

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Speaker 1: draft and bringing some other new guy. I think could

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Speaker 1: possibly be the way of their thinking. But yeah, like

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Speaker 1: I said, it's just hard to say goodbye. But it's

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Speaker 1: the reality of the business. I don't there's some other

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Speaker 1: positions that I feel they would seem maybe more valuable

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Speaker 1: as far as addressing through free agency and spending that

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Speaker 1: kind of money rather than a running back. Yeah, I personally,

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Speaker 1: I look at that. I agree with a lot of that. Amber.

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Speaker 1: I really think they've got to get younger at the

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Speaker 1: running back position. And what I mean by that is, again,

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Speaker 1: in a league where we've seen it over and over

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Speaker 1: and over again, it is the easiest position to turn over.

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Speaker 1: It is the position where guys consistently can come into

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Speaker 1: the league. You talk, we were talking about the quarterback position,

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Speaker 1: where it takes a little bit of time. Running back

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Speaker 1: seems to be the position where you can get immediate

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Speaker 1: impact from guys immediate immediately out of college. And I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you, guys, I'm not a big

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Speaker 1: I usually am not the guy that's touting Texas players

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Speaker 1: as guys that I want that I want Cowboys to

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Speaker 1: take us. I'm harder on them than I am on

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Speaker 1: other players around the country, mainly because I've seen them

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Speaker 1: play every one of their games. But let's be honest, Like,

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Speaker 1: if Bijean Robinson is sitting there at twenty six, quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: and I know this is gonna turn some heads because

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Speaker 1: be looking at ways I could get up there to

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Speaker 1: get him, because when I tell you, this guy is

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Speaker 1: one of those special running backs. And I think I've

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Speaker 1: always been clear too, I don't love the idea of

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Speaker 1: giving second contracts to running backs just because it's a position,

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Speaker 1: and positional value says you can you can turn it

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Speaker 1: over pretty easily relatively speaking. But looking at how this

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Speaker 1: guy plays, he is one of those guys. It has

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Speaker 1: that ability. He has traits that are that are more

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Speaker 1: generational running back type traits, like he has the kind

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Speaker 1: those out there listening may not that may not really

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Speaker 1: ring well for you because that was in my childhood

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Speaker 1: and early adulthood. But when I say that, I mean

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Speaker 1: he is the kind of guy that I saw him

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Speaker 1: do it multiple times at Texas. The offensive line Texas

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Speaker 1: was not very good, and this year was better than

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Speaker 1: it's been in past years. There were a number of

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Speaker 1: times I saw this man get to the hole there

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Speaker 1: was no hole he should have been tackling in the backfield.

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Speaker 1: He turns it into a seven yard game. He has

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Speaker 1: that ability with no space and relatively poor blocking, to

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Speaker 1: be able to make guys miss and turn something into

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Speaker 1: what should have been a loss. And that's the kind

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Speaker 1: of guy that I'm like. If you have an offensive

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Speaker 1: line that's a little in flux, which the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: kind of the they're young, they're a young offensive line,

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Speaker 1: he will make this offensive line look really, really good.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I saw. That was probably the most

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Speaker 1: deficient thing that I would say about Zeke. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Zeke has or has really shown that ability here

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Speaker 1: over the last year of when things are all clogged up,

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Speaker 1: Is he even more like younger version Zeek or more

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Speaker 1: like a Tony Pollard now? Honestly, in my opinion, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, his traits are better than either one of

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Speaker 1: them at this point in their career coming out of

854
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: and by the way, Zeke was a big time player

855
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: coming out of college. He was a big time college player.

856
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: Bijean's a different kind of back. Bijean has all of

857
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: those like he's a he's an he has power, he

858
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: has speed, Like he can turn it as Zeke used

859
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: to do early in his career. He can turn that

860
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: that quick run that he gets a little space and

861
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: now he's off for a forty fifty yard touchdown. He

862
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: has that um he can lower his shoulder and go

863
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: through it like he has all he can catch out

864
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: of the backfield. You can line him up at a

865
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver, he can catch like he can do pretty

866
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: much all of those things from a trade standpoint. Now, obviously,

867
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: going to the NFL, there will be things that you

868
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: have to measure as far as whether it actually ends

869
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 1: up being that kind of player on the NFL level.

870
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: But I will tell you watching him play every single

871
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: down in college, this man is special. And if I'm

872
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, now you have to make some decisions before

873
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: you get to draft, correct. But if I have a chance,

874
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: If I'm the Cowboys and I have a chance to

875
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: get Bjean Robinson on my team, I'm doing it. The

876
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: problem I have with it is not obviously not with

877
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: the player. Bejean is an absolute horse, and for my money,

878
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: he should have been in the Heisman conversation, the only

879
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: reason he wasn't was because of how the team as

880
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: a whole in Texas went. So I'm right there with

881
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: you all the praise and credit to what Bejean Robinson

882
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: is and can possibly be at the NFL level, but

883
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: when you start looking at some of these other positions

884
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 1: of need and granted, this conversation changes as we get

885
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: closer to the last weekend in April, because then we'll

886
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: have a better idea of what they did or did

887
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: not do in free agency the Cowboys, I mean, so

888
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: the conversation could change then. But let's say all things

889
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: being as they are right now, I would be wholly

890
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with selecting the running back in the first round

891
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: when you don't know what you're doing at cornerback yet. Right, So,

892
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: you know what you got into, Ron Bland. You know

893
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: you gotta Treyvon Diggs, whose contract negotiations are coming up

894
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 1: here soon, by the way, so you kind of gotta

895
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: get some not only someone to compliment him, but maybe

896
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: someone who can be insurance in case those things don't

897
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: go well. We'll see how it goes. But Anthony Brown

898
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: is an unrestricted free agent who's also coming off of

899
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: a major injury. George Lewis will be back in the building.

900
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: That'll be wonderful as he's healthy. But it appears Kelvin Joseph,

901
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: it's not the answer there. You like the needle pointing

902
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: up on this Sean right, You like the needle pointing

903
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: up on Israel mukuammo. But these are still very young

904
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: guys who still need more development before they can show

905
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: you that they're definitively CB two opposite Trevon Dixon. That's

906
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: just one position. Linebacker. Are you going to be able

907
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: to keep Laton vander esh and are you or are

908
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: you not bringing man Anthony Barr? But then are you

909
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: ready to unleash the unleash theman Clark. Yeah, unleash theman Clark.

910
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 1: Unleash Clark. But my overarching point is these other positions

911
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: are of such a high need and you don't currently

912
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: have resolutions to them as much as you have at

913
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: the running back position. If you just kept that back,

914
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: that's that's great to say, but I think there are

915
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: lots of challenges to that from a standpoint of you

916
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: don't like, are you gonna franchise Tony Pollard? If you're

917
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: gonna do that, great, you can control his rights. But

918
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: if you're not, then you can't control that right. Um

919
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: and and I will say this too. I get your point.

920
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: But I do think at certain positions, if you have

921
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: a good enough player, like a transition, like a generational

922
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: type player, you can change how effective other positions. And

923
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 1: I do. I think it's like when they got Michael Parsons,

924
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: the reason why this defense took that big jump. Yeah,

925
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: they brought in a lot of different players and pieces

926
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: that all fit. But when you got a player like Micah,

927
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: teams have to address you differently, which means like the

928
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: guy who's whose deficiencies maybe should have or could have

929
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: been exploited before can't be exploited the same way. Because

930
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: you've got this guy, you're now worried about number eleven.

931
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: That affects everything else. I think, Bijean, maybe that kind

932
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: of back that may solve some of your offensive line challenges,

933
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,959
Speaker 1: may solve some of your wide receiver challenges, may solve

934
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: some of the challenges you see when it comes to

935
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: your tight ends blocking. Like, there are lots of things

936
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: that this guy becomes, as Nick calls him, the diaper, right,

937
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: he can cover up all the stuff. Right, So when

938
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: when I look at it like that. That's where I'm like,

939
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: I think somebody like Beijon has that kind of ability.

940
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: Not again part of this. Maybe I just saw him

941
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: and he was so great at Texas that I'm my

942
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: glasses are too. Yeah. Maybe maybe that's it. Maybe that's it,

943
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: and I will count. Look, I will acount for that,

944
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: right right. It's like your kids, Like you see your

945
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: kids and like I love my kids, like they're perfect. Yeah,

946
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: but so it might be some of that. I get it.

947
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you this guy has some rare, rare traits,

948
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: rare abilities that I think can fit for this team

949
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: and give this team some dynamic ability that I don't

950
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: know that they have right now. I love Tony Pollard's game,

951
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: I don't think Tony Pollard necessarily has the elusiveness that

952
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: this guy has. Like, this guy's does some things that

953
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: are just like I literally watched some plays and be

954
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: like I gotta rewatch that, Like how did he get

955
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: out of this and he got out of the situation

956
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: he was in and turned it into seven eight yards?

957
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: It's it's amazing. Well, basically, you're telling me he's not

958
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: gonna be there in the twenties. Andy well, honestly don't think.

959
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: I think he's probably gonna get picked a lot earlier

960
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: than that. I think he's gonna go to the Combine.

961
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: He's gonna dazzle everybody, and I think I think he's

962
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: I actually think there's a chance he might get into

963
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: the top ten. All I'm saying is it would be

964
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: a steal if he gets into the twenties. Even if

965
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: you have to give up a little bit to get

966
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: up a few spots, it would be a steal in

967
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: my opinion, even after running back position. Knowing that there's

968
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: so much value out there as far as running backs

969
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: and where you can get them, I still think this

970
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: guy is special, and for special guys, I don't care

971
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: what the position is. You take that that extra chance. Well,

972
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: the good news for the Cowboys is, be it for

973
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: b Genre or whatever other player they might have an

974
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: eye on, they are so flush with draft picks this

975
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: this coming April that they can move up in any

976
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: round easily and still have a come away with a

977
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: ton of guys entering the building as rookie. So yeah,

978
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't talk about helping your quarterback. Give him a

979
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: running back that can make things happen like that, because

980
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: now the defense is going to really have to think

981
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: very hard about how many how many resources are you

982
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: going to really dedicate to ceedee lamb when you got

983
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: this guy to the backfield, that can make a guy

984
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: miss pretty easily. I'm just looking at there's a lot

985
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: to think about of cornerback. You know, you lost Green

986
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: Bay because of cornerback. You lost because I wouldn't say yeah,

987
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say now, but but I think there were

988
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,479
Speaker 1: some things that happened in that game that were more

989
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: about injury, that were about who was out there at

990
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: that at that particular time. At the end of the day,

991
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: if you ran this defense back another year as it

992
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: is currently constructed, you would be fine on defense. You

993
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 1: would be for you could go to a super Bowl

994
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: with this defense as it is. Would you say it's

995
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: fair to say that the Cowboys lost in Jacksonville because

996
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: of the cornerback position. Think about it, was it was

997
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: part of it, was a part of it. Yes, it

998
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: was a part of it. So yeah, anyone's a part

999
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: of those types of things about the forefront. But that's

1000
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: that's nice to say. But again, once again, that's one game.

1001
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: Every you look at the two Super Bowl teams. I

1002
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: guarantee you they can point somewhere and say, yeah, we

1003
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: lost that game because of this, Like I don't think

1004
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: that necessarily means it is a big overarching problem. I

1005
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: look at the cornerbacks and I look at it and say,

1006
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: I am firmly convinced that Duran Bland and we're way

1007
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: over on defense. We're not supposed to be here. You

1008
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: just know you're not coming back. So but I look

1009
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: at and I'm like, Duran Bland is every bit good

1010
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: enough to be your CB two. I don't have any

1011
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: questions about that anymore. Not I don't have a single question.

1012
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: So if I got my two top corners and I

1013
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: feel really good about them, which I do, then to me,

1014
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: cornerback is yes, it's something I gotta address because I

1015
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: want some depth. I need to make sure I got

1016
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: guys in case somebody goes down. But that's not as

1017
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: big a problem as trying to get a player that

1018
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: I think can change my whole team, like a running

1019
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: back that's good enough to make my whole team better.

1020
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: That's my point. I got dan Quinn back, so it

1021
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: don't matter, I trust. Yeah, it still matters, but you know,

1022
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: I just stand Quinn with everything. Yeah, and you got again.

1023
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: I think it came down to you, like all the

1024
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: injuries and all of that, but with the off season

1025
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: and just recruiting more people and coming in, Like Derk said,

1026
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that later, but I worry about He's like,

1027
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be back. Had to fire that shot

1028
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: a real quick before we end the show. I need

1029
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: to get some predictions from you guys. Super Bowl. You

1030
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: got the Eagles, you got the Chiefs. Who do you

1031
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: want to win? Who do you think will win? Let's

1032
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: start you Amber. Okay, if you ever hear me say

1033
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: the Eagles, I picked the Eagles to win any game,

1034
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: please slap me in the face. Um yeah, easy answer,

1035
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: both forty nine ers both Yes. So you saying you

1036
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: want the Chiefs to win and you think the Chiefs

1037
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: will win. I am not gonna say I think the

1038
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: Eagles win. Okay, I don't want to hear it from

1039
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: the fan base. So anyways, regardless of what happened and

1040
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: I did, I'm still thinking I came out of that game,

1041
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 1: the loss against the Niners, thinking they played dirty, and

1042
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: they did. They were. There were some plays in there

1043
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: that I've just came with a very distateful, like bad

1044
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: taste in my mouth just some of the things that

1045
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: I saw, So just in general, that kind of left

1046
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 1: me a little pissed off about that. But I still

1047
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: rather than win than the Eagles. They do have a

1048
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: lot of talent, and I hate it. I hate that

1049
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: they're so well built right now, and we were talking

1050
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: about the draft and kind of what they got for

1051
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: this year as well to kind of keep adding to

1052
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: what they already have. But I'd rather see yeah all

1053
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: around Chiefs for you. Um, yes, okay, I'd rather see

1054
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: Mahomes holding a trophy then the Eagles celebrating or Kevin

1055
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: Hart going at it already see Kevin Hart posting around. Um,

1056
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: but yeah Mahomes when I like, I really do. I

1057
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: like Mahomes a lot and he's a very talented player,

1058
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: so i'd rather see him get another win, all right,

1059
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: I'll see. So for me, I mean, you guys know me, well,

1060
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to say whatever I need to say, regardless

1061
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: of what the fan based reaction is going to be

1062
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: to it. But subjectively speaking, um, injuries a side because

1063
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 1: I don't ever wish injuries on anyone or any team. Um,

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00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: But as far as the standings goes, I wish nothing

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00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: but the worst on the Philadelphia Eagles. I want them

1066
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: to lose every game forever, ever, ever, ever, ever. So

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00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: it's easy money for me to sit here and say

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00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: I want the Chiefs to win. I want the Chiefs

1069
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: to blow the doors off of them, because if that happens,

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00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: then it then the narrative becomes shit. The Eagles have

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00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: been there in the first place, and that's the conversation.

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00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: I would just love to sit back and watch. That'd

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00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: be fun to watch. Objectively speaking, this is going to

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00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: be a close one, but I think that the Chiefs

1075
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: are better in spots that will help them win this game.

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00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: I think that bottling up Jalen Hurts is difficult to do,

1077
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: but the Eagles defensive line and particularly at the edge

1078
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: Frank Clark, Chris Jones, they have the ability to keep

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00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: him in the pocket and then force him to make

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00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: the plays down the field. Granted, you got a j

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00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: Brown DeVante Smith down the field, but I love what

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00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: I've seen from some of the younger guys. Hell, some

1083
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: of the younger guys were the reason that they were

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00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: able to advance at this point. They made the big

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00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: plays when they needed to make them in the AFC Championships.

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00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: So and then at the end of the day, now

1087
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: you start thinking about Andy Reid's mind versus Nick Sirianni's mind.

1088
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: Andy read greater than greater than greater than greater than

1089
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni about a coach I do not want to

1090
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: see win either. Patrick Mahomes versus Jalen Hurts at the

1091
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: quarterback position, is that even a conversation. That's not to

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00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: take away from what Jalen Hurts has done this season,

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00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 1: But Patrick Mahomes is in a different stratosphere. So all

1094
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: in all, I want the Chiefs to win badly, so

1095
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: badly I can taste it. Just that's right there on

1096
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: a typical song. But I also believe that they can

1097
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: and will win this game. But I don't think objectively speaking,

1098
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: it'll be a blowout. I think it'll be close, a

1099
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: one possession game until it gets to the final couple

1100
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: of minutes, than the Chiefs pull away a little bit.

1101
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 1: So I on talking Cowboys. I put it at thirty

1102
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: four to twenty four, Chiefs take the win. This one

1103
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: was a very very hard one for me. Here's why

1104
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: I'm so perplexed right now, I am not like I'm

1105
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of the Eagles at all, Like

1106
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: probably of any team in the league. That's probably a

1107
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 1: team I just like the most. The problem is personal,

1108
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: Like I actually really like Jalen Hurts as a player

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00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: as a person. I love his story all that he

1110
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: went through from college all the way to the pros.

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00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: I just love stories of people that are resilient, like

1112
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: people that just don't take note for an answer, Like

1113
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,959
Speaker 1: they just figure out a way even when people doubt them,

1114
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: they figure out a way to make it happen and

1115
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: they still end up winning at the end of the day.

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00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: I love Jalen Hurts. And in addition to that, it's

1117
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: family involved. Brian Johnson, the quarterback coach of the Eagles,

1118
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: is a distant cousin of mine from my hometown. Now,

1119
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: you gotta understand, I have a very very small hometown,

1120
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: so everybody knows everybody. Everybody's related in some kind of way, right,

1121
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: But it's like it's a big deal in our hometown

1122
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: that Brian's now the quarterback coach of the Super Bowl

1123
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: of a Super Bowl team. We don't have NFL players

1124
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 1: coming out of our hometown that doesn't happen very often.

1125
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: Like we get excited when we get when that goes

1126
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: to a D one college, like it's a big deal, right,

1127
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: it's a small town. And so from that said, well,

1128
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I really want Brian to get a ring.

1129
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: I really want Jalen to get a ring. Man, I

1130
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: wish they would have another team. This is really really hard.

1131
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be kind of split on the whole day.

1132
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be kind of split on who do I

1133
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: think I want to win. Ultimately, I think Philly's going

1134
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: to win. And the reason why I think they're gonna

1135
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: win is mainly because of injuries. Right now, the Kansa

1136
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: City Chiefs are depleted at wide receiver. They don't know

1137
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: who they're gonna have running out there come come game day.

1138
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: And what I know of Patrick Mahomes is he is special.

1139
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: But if he don't have anybody on the other side

1140
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: catching balls that he can rely on other than its

1141
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: tight end, which is tight End's gonna be there. He's

1142
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: gonna do his thing, But they're gonna need some wide

1143
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 1: receiver help. If they can get something, those wide receivers

1144
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 1: out there and healthy enough to play a good game,

1145
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: then I think Kansas City can win. If not, then

1146
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: I don't think they will be I think Philly just

1147
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: has so much talent and specifically they have an advantage

1148
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: when it comes to their pass rush versus the Kansas

1149
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: City tackles, where if he doesn't have the receivers are

1150
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get open quickly. Then I think

1151
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: it's going to create a bigger problem for them. So

1152
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: it kind of matches up an injury weakness with a

1153
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: strength of Philadelphia. From that standpoint, I think Philly ends

1154
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: up winning this game, but I think it's gonna be

1155
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: a close game. And uh, and we'll have to see

1156
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: it here Monday and talk about the Eagles being two

1157
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: time world tam only we won't because the Chiefs are

1158
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: going to win, only because Monday we won't do a show.

1159
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: Also that works also, all right, guys, I really hope

1160
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: so that they win. And I don't know why. Earlier

1161
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: my brain just kind of took me back. I see,

1162
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: if we were talking about the the whole NFC East,

1163
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: I was talking, I started talking about the forty nine

1164
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: ers and a lot of thinking, bed, uh, but you won't.

1165
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm gonna cope if that actually happens,

1166
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: and you know, going back to hers, going back to Hers,

1167
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: he's a guy that aside from everything, I actually like him. Yeah,

1168
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: I like him as as a person, as a player,

1169
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: but anytime I see something good, and this is just

1170
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: so I don't build any kind of emotional niceness towards

1171
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: him social media, just skip skip rolling through it because

1172
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to get attached. But uh yeah, and

1173
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: I can't watches it for me and as a person

1174
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: and as a human being, I like Jalen Hurts, but

1175
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: once he suits up and he puts on that that

1176
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: dark green and that black, it's just it's a wash

1177
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: for me. And it's the same for me um across

1178
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: all sports. As a huge Braves fan, use Jacob de

1179
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: Ground for example. Loathe Jacob de Ground because he was admitted. Well,

1180
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: now he's in Texas, I want to go see Jacob

1181
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: pitch right. So it's it's that type of dynamic. It's

1182
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: it's the uniform. It's the organization that I so loathe

1183
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: and I want nothing but the worst for them. Well

1184
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: as as you made a lot of good points Derek

1185
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: about the strength and weaknesses that both like the teams

1186
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: have right now currently heading into the super Bowl. But

1187
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: crazy things happened something. Yeah, Absolutely, Andy Reid and Eric

1188
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: b Enemy to me are just better than Nick. Sirianni

1189
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: and his group. Well, I just think they're they have

1190
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: some things up their sleep. For Jalen, I'm seeing more

1191
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: purple and gold than I am green. So okay, shout

1192
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: out to the all Right, we appreciate you guys joining us.

1193
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: We'll see you guys next week exactly. Thank you for

1194
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: for coming sitting in with us. Patrick, it was really

1195
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: great having you on. We'll be back next Wednesday. I

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00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: think we're gonna have our normal crew back in. Brian

1197
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: and Nick should be back. Maybe they have some stories

1198
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: from us for us from the super Bowl until then.

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Speaker 1: For Nick, I'm sorry, not for Nicky because he's not here.

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00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: For Patrick, no C Walker and Ambergar seeing. I'm Derek Eagleton.

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