Speaker 1: That video made me sad because growing up, I thought
Speaker 1: that's what adult life was gonna be, Like I thought
Speaker 1: about I thought that about everything. I've only cheated on
Speaker 1: women because Usher made it sounds great. It's hectic, it's hectic,
Speaker 1: but he's never like, oh, I'm getting off these text
Speaker 1: messages warm at work. He never sings about that work. Bro.
Speaker 1: I thought me and my home was getting the escalade
Speaker 1: going to the club and started jig ya the whole time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't even it's so much hooka smoke. Now you're
Speaker 1: trying to you're trying to get you trying to get
Speaker 1: some movement going on. You're gonna have some respiratory issues. Man,
Speaker 1: it's sick. Yeah, it ain't what they promised. That's for
Speaker 1: damn tree, my chips in your quality. Man's racist. The
Speaker 1: host mostly money, Terry stuff I can't tell me. Welcome, Welcome,
Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of My Mama Told Me, the
Speaker 1: podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets of
Speaker 1: black conspiracy theories and we finally work to prove what
Speaker 1: the fuck is wrong with Terry Because I don't know
Speaker 1: whose team is he on, not mine, not mine? That
Speaker 1: I think I think the only people that could truly
Speaker 1: claim Terry Crews as a teammate are like those muscle
Speaker 1: beach men, you know what I mean, Like it ain't black,
Speaker 1: it ain't white, it's it's it's oily titty men or
Speaker 1: other people who like agree, people who are into saying
Speaker 1: they're addicted to porn. I don't trust you. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: I don't trust you're addicted to porn. We all are
Speaker 1: grow up, we got climate change. You're worried about jerking.
Speaker 1: What do you think you're special because you because you've
Speaker 1: gotten to the nooks and crannies of of porn hub.
Speaker 1: Fuck you, He's not even in the nooks and crannies.
Speaker 1: I bet my if we're looking for search terms, I
Speaker 1: beat Terry Crews every day. He's never. He's never. And then, well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Here's what I like about what you're
Speaker 1: saying is that I do think that that might be
Speaker 1: what haunts him the most, is that he's sitting there
Speaker 1: and he's basically just looking up missionary sex on these
Speaker 1: fucking websites, and it's like, well, I'm addicted to that,
Speaker 1: then I'm a piece of shit. That is, you are
Speaker 1: a piece of ship because I'm exploratory. I look so
Speaker 1: deep on there sometimes I'm like, I don't even know
Speaker 1: if this is porn. I think this is just two
Speaker 1: chubby Filipino ladies foot rats. And that's what porn is for,
Speaker 1: because you're not you're you're not going to be able
Speaker 1: to access that with a family committed whatever. Bullshit that
Speaker 1: we're all finding ourselves. That's what I'm saying. I'm on
Speaker 1: pornography to do stuff I can't do in real life.
Speaker 1: And Terry Crews is looking up black lady who looks
Speaker 1: pretty close to white with a fade, and that's his
Speaker 1: fucking wife, you know what I mean. Like he's literally
Speaker 1: looking for his wife, but he's doing it just the
Speaker 1: skew of his wife. And he's like, oh no, this
Speaker 1: is a sin. This is He's looking up like do
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Speaker 1: We came in hot today. We we didn't have a
Speaker 1: lot to stand on, and we we milked it for
Speaker 1: all it was worth. Huh. I think we did a
Speaker 1: good job. I think that was pretty good for not
Speaker 1: having a joke written. I thought we nailed it straight up. Well,
Speaker 1: you know who who always has a joke written? You
Speaker 1: know who's never unprepared. He is our guests today. He's
Speaker 1: so fucking funny. I think you we we talked about
Speaker 1: having him on the podcast, you and then I you
Speaker 1: mentioned him in My eyes lit up because I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: He's hilarious. He's an Atlanta local joker, is the way
Speaker 1: that he excribed described himself to us. But I think
Speaker 1: he's much more than that. So fucking funny. Give it
Speaker 1: up for our guests, Mando hard record, right, turn that up. Hey,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. It's a man sandal, okay, hey,
Speaker 1: man against negativity distributed all love. Please say the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Please say the whole thing every time. I'm sorry, sorry
Speaker 1: I didn't now, I didn't take that. I did ask
Speaker 1: you what you wanted me to say, and you didn't
Speaker 1: say none of that. You you were just like yeah,
Speaker 1: because if I would have told you that, then I
Speaker 1: couldn't have said the previous sentence. I just got you, right,
Speaker 1: I fessional. Everything is a setup, man. I love that.
Speaker 1: I love this setup. I love the whole thing. Let's
Speaker 1: let's not Dilly or Daly year, because you came to
Speaker 1: us with a conspiracy theory that I had never heard of. Bory.
Speaker 1: I don't know where you fall in the in the
Speaker 1: this is a real thing or not a real thing
Speaker 1: for you conversation. I I did not know. I did not,
Speaker 1: but it. I mean you're gonna say it. It makes
Speaker 1: sense to me, is what I'm saying. Oh, immediately you
Speaker 1: were like, hell, yeah, I'm bought in, bro. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, body parts, I've heard dancing. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: saying well, yeah, let's let's get to it. And then
Speaker 1: because this is exciting, you said, my mama told me
Speaker 1: a girl died from doing the name with It rock
Speaker 1: with It too hard at a dance party and snapped
Speaker 1: her neck. For sure. So so I'm a little long winded.
Speaker 1: Sorry to trap head The Year the Years, two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven, two thousand seven. Congratulations, you just got suspended
Speaker 1: for wearing a Snowman T shirt. The GJ can't they
Speaker 1: can't bannon you got when they did Bannon from Atlanta
Speaker 1: Public Schools. You got suspended for wearing that the school
Speaker 1: after the principal said stopped the first, simple warned you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she said, you said you can't ban the Snowman. You
Speaker 1: said you can't ban the Snowman, and she did bandish
Speaker 1: band you instead. And then and then you had on
Speaker 1: either some rebox soldiers or you had on that era
Speaker 1: attempts that would be like one color and then another
Speaker 1: color on the side, and then the tongue was that
Speaker 1: other color. Remember that they had They had about a
Speaker 1: two year run. So Lean with the Rock with It
Speaker 1: drops in two thousand and six. That's when the music
Speaker 1: video come out. That's when they shot the SoC de
Speaker 1: and they dropped the remix before the original version of
Speaker 1: the song, which I thought was bizarre. I liked that
Speaker 1: one the all they think, I like me so yeah,
Speaker 1: Town Yeah exactly. If you watch the Land with the
Speaker 1: Rock with the music video, they referenced that music video
Speaker 1: and the Land with a Rock with It, which don't
Speaker 1: make sense. But all that doesn't matter. So in the
Speaker 1: video at the beginning, it's a girl, she's doing the
Speaker 1: Lane with a Rock with It. Now plenty people Lane
Speaker 1: with the Rock what it is, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: staple for people in the southeast. That made as well
Speaker 1: across the country. Was everywhere. It was big. Now you
Speaker 1: were leaning rock, lift your leg up, get your knee up,
Speaker 1: bounced down with all your body. But before it was
Speaker 1: just that you will also lean your neck back, or
Speaker 1: you was a guy who twists your leg. Everybody wants
Speaker 1: to see an individual, and what happened was that girl.
Speaker 1: That girl, she was trying to be herself and she
Speaker 1: was in the music video. So the story is that
Speaker 1: she was in the party and they're like, that's the
Speaker 1: girl from the music video, y'all make rooms. She's about
Speaker 1: the show out, and then she snapped. She didn't live
Speaker 1: with rob with the snap back, snapped, her neck died,
Speaker 1: and they flowed up like American flint. So from that
Speaker 1: point on, so you're seeing it was the girl from
Speaker 1: the girl in the cocktail dress. To Mike, correct, no,
Speaker 1: not don't begin No, it's like a child like so
Speaker 1: so a little child, very younger, a child was at
Speaker 1: a party for Shure. So what they're saying is so
Speaker 1: a great example. My mom didn't necessarily what happened was
Speaker 1: but after that, everybody's like, hey, when y'are doing a
Speaker 1: link with a rock with it, don't move y'all neck,
Speaker 1: because that's how y'all die so everything. So that was
Speaker 1: a big thing. Like schools across the Atlanta was like, hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: I know y'all like the dance and have fun, but
Speaker 1: we gotta be safe. We gotta be safe when doing
Speaker 1: these moves. And so you wasn't allowed to snap your neck.
Speaker 1: So if you was like, let's have you in the middle,
Speaker 1: you're doing with it. You're getting after it. Once you
Speaker 1: moved the net back, they're like, hey, all, best off man,
Speaker 1: we want to have a good day. I love the
Speaker 1: idea that they they know they can't stop you from
Speaker 1: doing the dance. They're like, listen, we're not this. This
Speaker 1: dance is too goddamn contagious for us to ask people
Speaker 1: to not do it. But let's just do it safely.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna have sex, you know, Oh I remember,
Speaker 1: I forgot that. They were yeah. Yeah, that's when the
Speaker 1: animations came, and that's when that that next snap really
Speaker 1: found itself. I would I would argue is that when
Speaker 1: people were snapping hard, you would really snap. I used
Speaker 1: to wear a helmet unrelated, but he did, I mean
Speaker 1: honest at the team club and when I was in
Speaker 1: middle school, they used to at the team club, shout
Speaker 1: the club bash people was at the Tame Club. And
Speaker 1: so this is a true thing. So before the net
Speaker 1: snap thing, it wasn't about the animations. So before it
Speaker 1: was like who here lean and rock the herd. But
Speaker 1: after that exactly exactly, but post that girl supposedly dying,
Speaker 1: that's from casting like, hey, you gotta pretend like you're
Speaker 1: hitting the baseball. You you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it really advanced the dance further by creating that constriction.
Speaker 1: It's like when you don't cut some set. This evolution
Speaker 1: of safety created a space for people to start to
Speaker 1: add a new innovation to the ship. For Shan for
Speaker 1: shall Yeah, that's when people was wearing the big shirts.
Speaker 1: When people remember my white tea and remember pink tea.
Speaker 1: I remember pink tea. And you remember back in them days,
Speaker 1: if you was a dude who was trying to look
Speaker 1: like attracted to women, you wouldn't check your whole shirt off.
Speaker 1: You would just take the bottom of the shirt and
Speaker 1: put it behind your neck. You know what I'm talking man.
Speaker 1: And that was a little astentatious for myself, but it
Speaker 1: was one It was a smart move because if you
Speaker 1: separate the arms from the They look bigger than when
Speaker 1: they're oh yeah, yeah, like that's a big gass arm
Speaker 1: when they ain't got no tour so attached to it.
Speaker 1: Did you ever have to try to did you ever
Speaker 1: have to try to harle them shake? But you would
Speaker 1: just grab the bottom of your big T shirt. That's
Speaker 1: a good move. That's how that's how I was getting down,
Speaker 1: like I I when I was in high school, I
Speaker 1: was a dancer, baby I was, I was. I know it.
Speaker 1: I knew it. A mountain dude, you were a mountain dude, Chuck.
Speaker 1: I ain't a lie. I ain't a lie. When I
Speaker 1: was coming up, I was jigging for real, like real like.
Speaker 1: And then I have bonus points because I was a
Speaker 1: fat dude, so like I expectation. Yeah, I used to
Speaker 1: do the worm. Whoa yeah yeah, people I hate man
Speaker 1: do the worm. Du Yeah I was. If a fat
Speaker 1: dude does the worm, that's the that's the party right
Speaker 1: there at home. Yeah there, there's we shut it down
Speaker 1: for that ship. That's crazy. One battle only lost one
Speaker 1: battle on my time? How many battles battle I did?
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I thought it would be a
Speaker 1: bigger number. I was literally expecting that. I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not discrediting whether or not twelve is a big number.
Speaker 1: Four dance battles. I'm saying that. When you go I
Speaker 1: never lost one dance battle in my life, and it's
Speaker 1: one of twelve, it starts to make it. It feels
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think if it was fist fights,
Speaker 1: you would be like, that's pretty good. If you tell
Speaker 1: me that them boys from you got served only only
Speaker 1: dance twelve times, I'd be like, well, worse, they're not
Speaker 1: gonna win. They're not ready. He wasn't a little safe
Speaker 1: in the world. Sometimes dance battles, that's a lot. And
Speaker 1: you're comparing it to to to professional athletes, as a
Speaker 1: easily dancer, as a legally's answer, that's a big number.
Speaker 1: Think about it. Think a boy I would dancing twice
Speaker 1: a year, one for the one for the spring dance,
Speaker 1: and one time in the summertime when we had that party.
Speaker 1: After that, I was retired the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: I got Larry home. That's six years worth the battles years.
Speaker 1: Let me let me go on records saying I was wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm out of line here, but but go on please
Speaker 1: not not twelve. And that's I'm as you're saying it.
Speaker 1: I feel shame about it. I truly I made a mistake.
Speaker 1: You gotta get after. I've never even I've never even
Speaker 1: I've been approached to dance battle and I had to.
Speaker 1: I didn't want it. I would rather battle battle. I
Speaker 1: would rather run at a team of enemies with the
Speaker 1: sword battle. One time I had the battles from twins
Speaker 1: right whoay and so to god, there was some twins
Speaker 1: of my neighborhood. One of them sat on the other
Speaker 1: shoulders like a transformer and it was like they was
Speaker 1: tutting together. What would you did? The word? Though? No,
Speaker 1: So that one, that one I won by I want
Speaker 1: by disqualification because while I was dancing, I started clumping
Speaker 1: and they started cramping, and they asked them to hit
Speaker 1: this girl in the mouth, and then they come dancing
Speaker 1: the us. So then I wontamn. So So that's like, uh,
Speaker 1: that's like in an in Naruto when like the enemy
Speaker 1: hurts themselves and then he but he still finds his
Speaker 1: heroic story inside of it. Exactly. Man, It's all art, bro,
Speaker 1: Everything is a expression, and sometimes we were expressed with
Speaker 1: our body and sometimes we expressed with our words, you know,
Speaker 1: and um, at that time, I was crumping. I used
Speaker 1: to the worm. I used to be able to spend
Speaker 1: on my head, but only one span. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: make fun of that. That's still a success for me.
Speaker 1: You put the skull cap on by like move back,
Speaker 1: I listen. I I my my child has now like
Speaker 1: started to try to like do a front flip, like
Speaker 1: just rolling, like she'll try to roll herself. And I
Speaker 1: was like trying to demonstrate it for her and like
Speaker 1: put my head on the ground and was gonna like
Speaker 1: flip my body over and then thought, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do that, like physically, I can't do that. Didn't
Speaker 1: make that, didn't make that big thund Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It was enough where it was like, oh, even just
Speaker 1: doing this on the ground, this is irresponsible and I
Speaker 1: I can't look around like that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Song Now you can't do it. Man, Sometimes we gotta leave.
Speaker 1: We gotta live young things for young people. I think
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Dance battles, What was the oldest
Speaker 1: dance battles? How how old were you? So? I think
Speaker 1: I was in high school. I lost it because that
Speaker 1: dude did my signature move on me. So I used
Speaker 1: to have a move called a detonator bro where um
Speaker 1: so I would legitimately I would like be so I'll
Speaker 1: go down to their legs and I'll vibrate up like
Speaker 1: that about it and then explode their head and start
Speaker 1: dancing really and saw that it kind of went. It
Speaker 1: was ham but then I started overusement. So people are like, man,
Speaker 1: you always doing that movie from like see you doing
Speaker 1: the last four of your twelve battle and then on
Speaker 1: the last battle the dude that neated me, Oh, he's
Speaker 1: working already with a narrative that's been circulating around this
Speaker 1: is Yeah, he prepared that. Yeah he knew. He was
Speaker 1: like and he's like me and Mandel, we we're gonna
Speaker 1: face off, and I'm gonna get him for sure, because
Speaker 1: I had a lot of hate behind me because you know,
Speaker 1: if you win, when you win long enough, you become
Speaker 1: a villain man. And so once he detonated me, automomentum
Speaker 1: went to his hot side and I couldn't do nothing else, man,
Speaker 1: and then I retired that day. I gotta let it go.
Speaker 1: I used to be good man. I used to do
Speaker 1: the worm. I never The only thing I really didn't
Speaker 1: do was, um, I wasn't a big I'm a break
Speaker 1: dance guy. Yeah yeah, but I used to take though
Speaker 1: for Yeah, I was just doing I was doing a
Speaker 1: lot of sideways, usher, slides and ship. I knew it.
Speaker 1: I knew it. I knew it. I knew it, I
Speaker 1: knew I don't know why I do it, but I
Speaker 1: knew it. I knew that, I knew I had a
Speaker 1: cousin similar situation, similar situation, very light skin, A lot
Speaker 1: of sideways, like when the when that video came out,
Speaker 1: was like the first one I saw do it, the
Speaker 1: one where it comes across the front. Yeah, hear me
Speaker 1: when I say this, when that video came out, I
Speaker 1: didn't sleep that that change. That change which one everything
Speaker 1: for me? Which one? That when when usher first? It
Speaker 1: might have been you got about when he first did
Speaker 1: that first. No, it wasn't. It wasn't you make me
Speaker 1: want to remember, oh he did do it? What you
Speaker 1: would make me want to? Yeah, he was wearing where
Speaker 1: the black and red pants. I'm gonna let you all
Speaker 1: know something. That boy, that boy Ussher was the first
Speaker 1: musician to wear Heli's right, you go watch you don't
Speaker 1: have the problem. Yeah, he And not only that, he
Speaker 1: went to a party in them ships, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Just he was like, I'm leaving my bitch,
Speaker 1: I'm going this is my day of liberation out in
Speaker 1: the world, and I am going in Healey's the boys
Speaker 1: and I I got my ground leather, I got my schooling.
Speaker 1: And it was so well lit in the music videos too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't mind. I didn't mind it being darker, but
Speaker 1: but god, damn do I wish. I wish they would
Speaker 1: clear the floor so that me and my boys could
Speaker 1: do a choreyer graduate together, you know, Hula hoopia chain
Speaker 1: one time, you know, yeah, do it around the net. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: let me ask you, because we're we have to go
Speaker 1: to break that we owe tax money, We've got issues
Speaker 1: that we've got to solve here. But before we go
Speaker 1: to break, man, how much of this is a conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory you genuinely are brought into How much of this
Speaker 1: is something you believe? All right? So I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: So for a long time, I believe in it because
Speaker 1: it's something that everybody, everybody said in Atlanta. But then
Speaker 1: I got on Reddit and now a lot of people
Speaker 1: are disparaging it. And then I find that across the
Speaker 1: country is different versions of a lady don during the dance.
Speaker 1: People do it safe, so like it's like I think,
Speaker 1: like and there's I saw Texas Virgin what somebody did
Speaker 1: it died South Dallas swag. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And so are you not open to the possibility that
Speaker 1: many people have died dancing? That's real. That's because like
Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't love admitting this. I've hurt
Speaker 1: myself at home dancing and that's not and that and
Speaker 1: that's but that's passive. But I'm saying that's passively. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm watching the dishes. I'm not even like in
Speaker 1: my room in front of the mirror trying to you
Speaker 1: know what. I'm just like, yeah, you know what it's
Speaker 1: listening to. And if funk around and have like a
Speaker 1: girl you're you're deeply in love with watching, you might
Speaker 1: go a little harder, with a little more energy. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to go softer. I'm not gonna go softer.
Speaker 1: You got you gotta show what you can do. I
Speaker 1: got what I'm saying. What what dance moves? It's always
Speaker 1: it's always because I got I got this situation where like,
Speaker 1: waist up, it's easy, it's like it's it's it flows,
Speaker 1: it's natural. Waist down when the athleticism comes in to play,
Speaker 1: I'm not if that's where it. So it's like I'll
Speaker 1: be you know, I'm doing the dishes or unloading laundry
Speaker 1: or some ship, and then I I feel that I'm slick,
Speaker 1: and then I try to do some foot ship and
Speaker 1: that's where it always goes. Well, okay, so you you
Speaker 1: at one point we're bought in, but now you are
Speaker 1: you are uncertain of its validity? Is that safe to say? A?
Speaker 1: Are you definitively out on the whole thing? I think
Speaker 1: for fun, I'm a stand on it that that girl
Speaker 1: die rest in peace. I love that. I love that
Speaker 1: as a as an out for for this entire thing
Speaker 1: that we let's go to break fuck it, we don't
Speaker 1: have resident peace to that girl who died. Stand on
Speaker 1: your ship. We'll be back with more man doing more.
Speaker 1: My mama told me. Welcome back to my mama told
Speaker 1: me the podcast where David didn't realize he was introing.
Speaker 1: After the drop, we are talking to Mandel about whether
Speaker 1: or not a young woman lost her life in pursuit
Speaker 1: of the lean and the rocking with it. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: so you you're standing on your ship, you're embracing the
Speaker 1: possibility that this girl did die. When it first happened,
Speaker 1: what was the what was the climate around your community?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You're in high school, I presume,
Speaker 1: or or your middle you're in middle school, middle middle school,
Speaker 1: is everybody truly terrified or they like, goofy, bitch, you
Speaker 1: should have you should have held your next stronger? No
Speaker 1: were they were twelve kid strong. We were twelve. So
Speaker 1: people thought it was hilarious. People thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 1: Ain't gonna lie, which is bad. People did and I
Speaker 1: remember a lot of people kept snapping their heads back
Speaker 1: to see if it's gonna happen to them. But I
Speaker 1: think they was going through some personal but but a
Speaker 1: lot of them cancel for show. Was a lot of
Speaker 1: the people for sall like parents and stuff. They was like,
Speaker 1: hey man, y'all relax, how y'all do that dance? You know,
Speaker 1: and came like it was like when people checked their
Speaker 1: candy for drugs, you know. Yeah, like people was like
Speaker 1: monitoring the dance just to make sure people wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: snapback next I got you it. It became enough that
Speaker 1: your parents got involved. It was assembly when we was
Speaker 1: at the pep rally. Remember pep rally in middle school
Speaker 1: for for our basketball team, and um, the sixth graders
Speaker 1: had to sit on the floor because you know, seniority
Speaker 1: and so and so we were sitting on the floor.
Speaker 1: It's this part where like the band of playing music
Speaker 1: at the end, they'll be like scrubs, sit down. They
Speaker 1: will repeat that for us to sit down, because sixth
Speaker 1: graders was scrubs at the time. And I remember, if
Speaker 1: you was a tough sixth grader, you were stand up
Speaker 1: because you had self esteem. And so what happened was
Speaker 1: in that moment were you sitting. I sat down, bro,
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna be honest, man, I didn't want to
Speaker 1: get I don't wanna get Donkey Kolm. It's system. I knew,
Speaker 1: and I don't mean that's as ament, but I knew
Speaker 1: you sat down because of the way you told this
Speaker 1: story where you're like if you words of this creator,
Speaker 1: but you didn't, Oh yeah, you didn't say they were
Speaker 1: they were standing. Shout out to them individuals. They all
Speaker 1: they all did some stuff. But look so while they dancing,
Speaker 1: everybody started dancing. So people are laying the rocket, people,
Speaker 1: people just jigging in general, people doing the pool palace
Speaker 1: slash walking out whatever are you subscribe to? And then
Speaker 1: the principle stopped the band said hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on. Now, y'all better not be snapping
Speaker 1: them neck. We don't want to send nobody to the hospital.
Speaker 1: And he was there serious, but everybody laughed and laughed,
Speaker 1: and people laughed at the idea of this lady dying
Speaker 1: and that more of us could have died. You know,
Speaker 1: we thought it was so humorous. Oh god, the the
Speaker 1: idea that an adult, literally the most senior adult in
Speaker 1: this still it is like, wait a minute, this is
Speaker 1: irresponsible what you young people might be venturing into. I
Speaker 1: love it. He had the heart to cut the music.
Speaker 1: I've never once in my life had something important enough
Speaker 1: to say stopped me. Yeah, no, not one. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: my principal arthopedic shoes. Man. He wasn't a fun guy
Speaker 1: at all, you know what I'm saying. He had He
Speaker 1: had a lot of hang time over the belt for
Speaker 1: a shadow to who I become and then what he
Speaker 1: and what he did when he when he stopped all
Speaker 1: fun and said, y'all stop that. Y'all stopped that, and
Speaker 1: then the band started the song go for So it
Speaker 1: was like a serious thing. It was a real serious thing, goddamn.
Speaker 1: But honestly, people kept snapping their necks back and nobody died.
Speaker 1: I ain't seen nobody else die from it. Any injuries,
Speaker 1: any injuries. I ain't gonna lie. I seen I've seen
Speaker 1: somebody do like the twists with the leg. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do you know who? Don't disrespect us? Man, don't from
Speaker 1: I know y'all from the midway, but still watch your
Speaker 1: fucking mouth tell your story. But didn't know who Fable is.
Speaker 1: Just like something like he used to stand up. He
Speaker 1: stood up game and they they he would have stood up,
Speaker 1: and then they would have they would have jumped him,
Speaker 1: but he would have. So he used to do this
Speaker 1: thing where he would lift he would lift his leg
Speaker 1: up to his side and he would wipe off his
Speaker 1: fee lives with his hand. Remember that was a big move.
Speaker 1: Like people would do that. And I've seen one person
Speaker 1: to do that and they lifted up with too much
Speaker 1: momentum and fell over. And but they lived whoa Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought you were about to describe a horrible knee injury,
Speaker 1: but no, this is just bad balance. That led to yeah,
Speaker 1: they slipped, and it was really embarrassing. Everybody like no, hey,
Speaker 1: you can't do the moon, like no, you ain't fable,
Speaker 1: and then for we like you think he fable, and
Speaker 1: then like, no, I guess I'm not fab because because
Speaker 1: you know, because I'm bleating pretty bad, I'm not faving.
Speaker 1: You know, it's only three years. So you do one
Speaker 1: dumb thing, you socially stunted yourself the middle, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So like from that point on, it
Speaker 1: was like watch out for him, don't let him dance
Speaker 1: he goes. That is objectively not FABO for the rest
Speaker 1: of this experience. And I love that sentiment because even
Speaker 1: if somebody could do the move, they're still not favor
Speaker 1: I'm saying nobody was in that gym no fu but
Speaker 1: for one thing, for short and that cat who no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. If ever you thought, like a Scooby Doo episode,
Speaker 1: We're gonna amask him and it's secretly gonna be fabo,
Speaker 1: it ain't because in a song bet you can't do
Speaker 1: it like Me. It's a song called bet you can't
Speaker 1: do it like Me, which is when they talk about
Speaker 1: doing the central move like fabo. So just I did
Speaker 1: that Fable was going around and teaching people the actual
Speaker 1: move as if like a like a like a train,
Speaker 1: you know, like if you get to a certain level
Speaker 1: in karate, the master trying to come teach you. And
Speaker 1: so the ideas that he didn't have the central move, oh,
Speaker 1: that that fable Fable had not been called down to
Speaker 1: give the alternate instruction for sere. I know this might
Speaker 1: be a convoluted Well, this is I think a wonderful
Speaker 1: transition into some of the research that I did. And
Speaker 1: according to we we were talking about the the idea
Speaker 1: of the possibility of of this girl dying. According to
Speaker 1: those haters over at Snopes, and that's the only way
Speaker 1: that I see them, there's not enough evidence on records
Speaker 1: showing that a person did in fact die during the
Speaker 1: dance to prove this to be true. However, and this
Speaker 1: is a very important however one specific to this show.
Speaker 1: One of the things that they point to as empirical
Speaker 1: evidence of, or rather the lack of empirical evidence, is
Speaker 1: they say that if a girl did, in fact die,
Speaker 1: it would obviously make national news from if if a
Speaker 1: girl died from this dance move. I think it's like,
Speaker 1: you know how when when people were like, this is
Speaker 1: my theory, you know, when everybody was dying the COVID,
Speaker 1: and people were like, oh, they're saying everybody's dying the COVID,
Speaker 1: but it's really they had the pre existing conditions they're
Speaker 1: drying off. I think that would happen in reverse in
Speaker 1: terms of a dance related death, because like if my
Speaker 1: kid died snapping, I would be like, no, he fell down,
Speaker 1: and some athletic person I wouldn't want to report it
Speaker 1: is like what happened, Like the cops come in there,
Speaker 1: like what happened to death? That's crazy? Yeah, No, so
Speaker 1: you gotta be like he fell down the stairs. It's
Speaker 1: like domestic of you. He died. He died trying to
Speaker 1: stop a fire. He didn't die dancing, don't be honestly.
Speaker 1: He stood up at the assembly and they yeah, I like,
Speaker 1: I like the idea that somebody lying about what they
Speaker 1: actually died from. And he was doing now, he was
Speaker 1: praising and they got to jump him because they didn't
Speaker 1: want him to worship God, he was really insane. You know,
Speaker 1: I got I gotta, I got a question. I got
Speaker 1: a question. Who wrote that article that you read? Well,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's Snopes, I think, is a website that's
Speaker 1: sort of like prides itself on on unpacking the possibility
Speaker 1: of these things being real. I don't know specifically, although no,
Speaker 1: that's not true. There's a person named David Michelson who
Speaker 1: wrote it. And part of my issue, and maybe this
Speaker 1: is what you're getting to, is I don't believe that
Speaker 1: David Michelson has a great understanding of what does and
Speaker 1: doesn't get reported from the community. That black children and
Speaker 1: are kidnapped and killed every day that does not get reported,
Speaker 1: and they're treated like national news. So the possibility that
Speaker 1: a girl dying it easily could go without being reported. Bro,
Speaker 1: he he ain't got his heir to the street. He
Speaker 1: got it into the sidewalk. And with that, that cat
Speaker 1: don't know what he's talking about. He wasn't in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Here's here's here's my opposed argument to that. Why would?
Speaker 1: Why would? What's the motive for a line about that?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: what does what does the city of Atlanta get out
Speaker 1: of line about this lady down It's not a point
Speaker 1: of pride, I imagine. And Plus, if she was alive,
Speaker 1: she would have came out by now and saying, hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: I'm a CNA. Now, I'm definitely not all those other
Speaker 1: kids from the internet. You find them, the little boy
Speaker 1: drinking the juice like that he plays football. Now, poor boy,
Speaker 1: this ain't a cold sandwich. I just was looking at him.
Speaker 1: I was just looking at him on Instagram two days ago.
Speaker 1: She would have pulled up. She she would have been
Speaker 1: divorced by now and would have taught us like, hey, yo,
Speaker 1: like she teaches deathal hygiena, I understand. Yeah, No, where
Speaker 1: is she? Yeah she does. She doesn't exist because she passed.
Speaker 1: And I think it's sick and it's people on that
Speaker 1: trying to trying to take away her legacy like that,
Speaker 1: because that's somebody who means a lot to this city.
Speaker 1: And we're not going to allow, you know, some some
Speaker 1: Reddit dude to try to descrace that. You know, I
Speaker 1: love that you said that. Let's let's take it a
Speaker 1: step further, because I I actually thought that this I
Speaker 1: didn't know about this one of the things that you mentioned,
Speaker 1: and it's not clearing, or at least wasn't clear when
Speaker 1: I originally read the conspiracy is that she was a
Speaker 1: part of the music video. This wasn't just a random
Speaker 1: girl at a random part, but was in fact one
Speaker 1: of the people that you see featured in the music
Speaker 1: video and in the conspiracy theory, or rather the the
Speaker 1: debunking quote unquote of this conspiracy theory. They actually liken
Speaker 1: it to uh a similar claim from nineteen eighty four
Speaker 1: featuring our boy David Alfonso Ribero. Oh, yes, there were
Speaker 1: there were claims in nineteen eighty four that Alfonso Roberto,
Speaker 1: who originally got his fame doing Michael Jackson impersonations and
Speaker 1: D's exactly might that that Alfonso Robero actually had died
Speaker 1: from attempting an impossible Michael Jackson move, that like he
Speaker 1: had killed himself attempting to be Michael people. That was
Speaker 1: a room that was a real rumor that was spreading
Speaker 1: in the eighties. Are you talking my bro from from
Speaker 1: one on one? Uh? No, that ain't that flex Oh
Speaker 1: I thought he was Michael Jacks No, no, no, he
Speaker 1: although he if what Alexander Michael did dude. He did
Speaker 1: at Michael Jackson film. I believe where he I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe a real night with David. What she said the
Speaker 1: last name Alfonso Ribero. Oh, I thought y'all were saying
Speaker 1: flex uh flex no no, also Robero, you know from
Speaker 1: The Fresh Prince. He was Carlton on The Fresh Prince. Oh,
Speaker 1: the Carson. But he before he became Carlton got famous
Speaker 1: on like truly almost like it's as close I think
Speaker 1: as we could call viral back then. He became like
Speaker 1: a viral sensation for impersonating Michael Jackson's dance moves in
Speaker 1: a McDonald's commercial. That's hard. That's hard, man. I think
Speaker 1: he was hack in the eighties. That's what everybody was doing. Shout,
Speaker 1: I mean, shout out to everybody impersonated Michael jacks Man.
Speaker 1: Good career, Jason Weaver, Shout to Jason Weaver, Shout out Alexander.
Speaker 1: They put he paint on him, they made him look wild.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's not crazy. He made a wild choice
Speaker 1: participating in that film. He flex made a lot of
Speaker 1: wild choices. Do you remember Whole Boys? Of course? I
Speaker 1: remember Homeboys and I got one flat Sentenzana Snakes on
Speaker 1: the plane. Huh yeah. Fix. He was a rapper who
Speaker 1: his and his and his security guard was Thompson had
Speaker 1: a chain on the entire movie five ft eight inch
Speaker 1: keenan Thompson. And he landed the plane. He landed the
Speaker 1: plane that they was like, yo, who could fly the plane?
Speaker 1: And the keen of times like I'll fly it. And
Speaker 1: he got to the fright here like I ain't never
Speaker 1: land u plane? And I'm like, why you do that? Kid?
Speaker 1: He figured it out. Yeah, I'm sorry. It was like
Speaker 1: the third time we've talked about flex Alexander on here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I prayed it got it. We do it every episode,
Speaker 1: I think, don't they say in Seinfeld there secretly like
Speaker 1: a Superman reference in every scene. That's what we're flex Alexander.
Speaker 1: Come on, baby, there there's gonna be a Flex Alexander.
Speaker 1: And every little bit of this I'm gonna get. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get. I'm gonna get a Homeboys and Outer Space
Speaker 1: T shirt. Please, let's let's wear matching T shirts for
Speaker 1: the first live Oh man, that is amazing that I'm
Speaker 1: with it. One thing about that boy Flex of his
Speaker 1: twenty year career. One rather he was Kyla Pratt, Dad,
Speaker 1: he was dribbling the basketball. That boy kept a shape up, Danny.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say a crystal one yeah before
Speaker 1: Yeah right, he was. He was overshadowed by Steve Harvey's
Speaker 1: wig in a way that he'll never get the same
Speaker 1: credit that he deserves because we spent right, we spent
Speaker 1: years praising Steve Harvey for this lie. Meanwhile, flex Alexander
Speaker 1: was sitting there beautiful the whole time, and we ain't
Speaker 1: we ain't say nothing. You know who else had amazing hair?
Speaker 1: Who never gets his? Dude? Who's that fucking Martin? Mm? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's Martin's hair was always beautiful, clean, faith so well
Speaker 1: and it was natural and I feel like nobody ever
Speaker 1: brings it up. Also, I'm pretty sure the first person
Speaker 1: to wear a Pelly Pelly on television. Oh that that No,
Speaker 1: that made me very true. In season two he had
Speaker 1: the Pelly Pelly with the belt. Fox. Fox was making
Speaker 1: a bold choice with Martin when they made it, so
Speaker 1: we were going to see some fashion that that. You know,
Speaker 1: the networks weren't ready for the first Pelly Pelly and
Speaker 1: the greatest shape up. That's good. That man had a
Speaker 1: great No, he did it. We can't ever, we can
Speaker 1: never take away. And he told people to wash their ass.
Speaker 1: It's he did it super employing people a half to
Speaker 1: do that. People have too. If you don't and get runk,
Speaker 1: whole life, get out of way. It's not going to
Speaker 1: bed late. Oh yeah, I'm not cleaning up your room.
Speaker 1: Maketure the inside is clean and then the outside. You Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. I couldn't agree more. I think,
Speaker 1: I think this is this is huge for us. Now.
Speaker 1: This is important because one of the things that along
Speaker 1: with liking it to to Alphonso Ribero and a number
Speaker 1: of sort of like weird conspiratorial debts that were said
Speaker 1: to happen with like semi famous people in the media, whatever.
Speaker 1: One of the things that that then drove me to
Speaker 1: ask is is there any evidence of people dying from dancing? Right? Like?
Speaker 1: Do we have any actual evidence? And I got one. Oh,
Speaker 1: let's start with yours, because I actually are This is exciting,
Speaker 1: so so all right, y'all, remember all right, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I get along with it, but I'm a little socially
Speaker 1: in that, y'all. Remember, Thank y'all, man, I really I
Speaker 1: really thank you all for let me just the biggest
Speaker 1: thing never happens. So so look y'all remember and like
Speaker 1: maybe it's like nine nine, congratulations, it's Saturday, so your
Speaker 1: mom gonna let you stay past, stay past nine third.
Speaker 1: It's a dude who come on the TV. Now, he
Speaker 1: got a blindfold, somebody's it's ABC. Somebody shoot a gun
Speaker 1: and he catched the bullet in his mouth. Y'all remember
Speaker 1: that dude. I it used to be on a magic show.
Speaker 1: He used to catch a bullet in the mouth. He's
Speaker 1: spitting the place about street magic magic. Yeah, but he
Speaker 1: did it on the stage now on that same show.
Speaker 1: Right on the same show, they would show previews to
Speaker 1: a news segment. What these people was dancing at a
Speaker 1: reception and then you can watch you can find it
Speaker 1: on YouTube. They dancing that a reception and the flow
Speaker 1: gave out at a wedding and a bunch of them,
Speaker 1: who I think, yeah, yeah, but but he he didn't die,
Speaker 1: A bunch of them. It was like a whole wedding party.
Speaker 1: A lot of them died. They were doing the East
Speaker 1: Side sun. I actually I don't remember the magic show
Speaker 1: you're talking about, but I a hundred percent remember watching
Speaker 1: with my mom, which was very much a thing we
Speaker 1: were doing in nineteen Saturday night. Oh hell yeah, where
Speaker 1: else was I going? This lady got I'm in the house.
Speaker 1: It's a good time. It's a good time. But I
Speaker 1: remember watching an episode about exactly what you're describing, these
Speaker 1: people falling through the floor. They was jig. I wonder
Speaker 1: what record it was, you know what I'm saying. Imagine
Speaker 1: what record made y'all stumped the flow up. Oh, I
Speaker 1: hope it was the Millennium. I hope it was. It
Speaker 1: was fucking I hope it was stormed Kirk Franklin. That's dang.
Speaker 1: They they got to go see him that day. That
Speaker 1: was right. If you're praising Jesus and then you get
Speaker 1: to meet him immediately after, that's pretty tight. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: all right. Man. If if there was all that Kirk
Speaker 1: Franklin church outfits, remember that when Kirk Franklin was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we got we gotta figure out a way to get
Speaker 1: the youth in the church. We're gonna wear jeans, you know,
Speaker 1: that was like a big thing. He had a bubble
Speaker 1: coat too. That was before he got buff and and
Speaker 1: uh and also made up a new hairline for himself.
Speaker 1: He was more at peace back then, though, I mean
Speaker 1: making up a new airline for I was on I'll
Speaker 1: tell you, I'll tell you the truth. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: the truth. I was on television. Once they hit me
Speaker 1: with the Beijing, I felt incredible. I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 1: with you. Your kids janged up one day that first day.
Speaker 1: That's a good time. Now, once you tell the shower,
Speaker 1: once you take that shower, you see the mistakes he made. True,
Speaker 1: that's true. The shower does reveal all Beijing. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's my issue with it is is I I love
Speaker 1: the experience and for a TV appearance that makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1: But truly, the next day makes you feel like the
Speaker 1: ugliest monster you you've ever been because that's a fresh
Speaker 1: haircut and it ain't. I kind of just from the house.
Speaker 1: It's white out for barbers. They got one. They got
Speaker 1: one at my barbershop. Nobody ever uses it. Yeah, this guy,
Speaker 1: HER's got it, and I've never seen any. But I
Speaker 1: always I wanna. I want to look good. I want
Speaker 1: the whole. I want the up. Though that once you
Speaker 1: once you start, once you started putting a Beijing on
Speaker 1: that skull, you put on that skull and you put
Speaker 1: on that jawline. That's when you're never coming back. Star
Speaker 1: start singing R and B. Yeah, I think Carlos. That
Speaker 1: wasn't even shoot Paul. She looked like one of the brothers.
Speaker 1: I remember one time I was at a smoothie place
Speaker 1: you do had Beijing, and his hairline started leaking because
Speaker 1: he was sweating, and then and then the Beijing dripped
Speaker 1: into the smooth and he gave it to a customer
Speaker 1: whoa yeah, yeah, fuck damn, I didn't. It's crazy because
Speaker 1: you said, I didn't know that you could work at
Speaker 1: a smoothie restaurant and have the money for Beijing. How
Speaker 1: much does it cost? I don't know. But but every
Speaker 1: literally everywhere I've ever been there giving that out for
Speaker 1: free at barbershops to pay for it. Yeah, like I said,
Speaker 1: they got the gun at my barbershop. I've never seen anybody.
Speaker 1: Oh you're talking about the gun situation. Most of the
Speaker 1: time it's a little airbrush squeegee type joint that I've seen.
Speaker 1: That's how it is in Hollywood. When I got Beijing,
Speaker 1: that's how Yeah, I think with the gun, they'll charge
Speaker 1: you that that's not a given away. That's too much
Speaker 1: Beijing that one time, just break? Can they given them
Speaker 1: away by the gap? You know you can punch? That's like,
Speaker 1: that's like mounting your own TV. You could do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now I don't do that. Call call call it a
Speaker 1: different man to come mount your TV before you don't,
Speaker 1: don't they put the business card on your head to
Speaker 1: make sure they get the lines right. That So, so
Speaker 1: you brought up this example of these people dancing through
Speaker 1: the floor. I dare to ask you all, and this
Speaker 1: is exciting. Have either of you heard of the dancing
Speaker 1: plague of fifteen eighteen? You know that I have? You have?
Speaker 1: I have not. I bring it up all the time.
Speaker 1: Just the other day I was saying, remember that dance.
Speaker 1: I was like, you, guys, that's just wow. Well for
Speaker 1: those that don't know, and Bory, I know you're already
Speaker 1: versed in all of this ship. But but for those
Speaker 1: that don't know, the dancing plague of eighteen apparently involved
Speaker 1: more than one people dancing themselves uncontrollably to their own deaths.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Why that? So? That's I love that you're
Speaker 1: asking that. And the truth is, no one still to
Speaker 1: this day, fully knows what the funk happened. But apparently,
Speaker 1: I'll break the whole story down for y'all. Apparently there
Speaker 1: was this lady frou Froul Trofey who leaves her house
Speaker 1: one day, she goes to the city square and then
Speaker 1: she just starts dancing. She's in uh Straussburg, what is
Speaker 1: now modern day France, right, she goes to the middle
Speaker 1: of Straussburg. She just starts dancing. She dances so long
Speaker 1: and so hard that eventually she passes out from heat
Speaker 1: stroke in an exhaustion. But then everyone assumes like, all right,
Speaker 1: Froul got that ship out her system. She's gonna go
Speaker 1: do whatever the funck frous be on elsewhere. But the
Speaker 1: next day she shows back up, does the exact same
Speaker 1: thing again the next day, to the point that's people
Speaker 1: other people start joining in and they start dancing alongside her,
Speaker 1: almost on some cult this ship, until four hundred people
Speaker 1: are gathered at a time dancing with this bitch. Frown.
Speaker 1: I think I know what happened, Okay, tell me so
Speaker 1: back then, this is when folks just started dance folk.
Speaker 1: So I think it's two ways you can look at this.
Speaker 1: Either A they was like, hold on, what is girl doing?
Speaker 1: And then somebody like, no, it's hard, man, we gotta
Speaker 1: keep up with this and that joy, that endorphins, our wigh, food, water, shelter,
Speaker 1: and the willingness to live right or or if they
Speaker 1: had limited range, they had limited dance moves. So I
Speaker 1: think back in them times, it wasn't about who could
Speaker 1: do the better dance mode, but who could dance the
Speaker 1: long You get what I'm saying, Like the marathon came
Speaker 1: before the sprint. It was it was quantity not quality. Yeah, yeah, this, well,
Speaker 1: let me say I love these I love these suggestions
Speaker 1: of what happened. In fact, the suggestion that that dancing
Speaker 1: was created just shy of fifteen eighteen is is maybe
Speaker 1: my favorite piece of information that I've ever heard anybody
Speaker 1: before that before that, they was playing the music standard. Still, man,
Speaker 1: I have no proof. I have no proof people start
Speaker 1: jigging and then people started dying in So what's crazy
Speaker 1: is that that even what you're suggesting is not that
Speaker 1: much more absurd than what they landed on all the
Speaker 1: way back then. A lot of people, naturally you guys
Speaker 1: uh are are smart enough to know they blamed the devil.
Speaker 1: That was the first thing that came to mind was
Speaker 1: them being like, what's the devil's doing? The fraud obviously
Speaker 1: is a center, and so are these other people, and
Speaker 1: the devil was making them do that. And in fact,
Speaker 1: they would often refer to this lore of St. Vitus Vetus,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to pronounce stuff, a Sicilian saint
Speaker 1: Martyred in three oh three, a d who was said
Speaker 1: to curse centers with uncontrollable dancing mania. If anger, that's
Speaker 1: what his power is. Yeah, he's like, I guess he died,
Speaker 1: and he was like, if I get mad, dance crazy
Speaker 1: for he like the first hip hip? What's the call? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He the first one a and not a magician, bro,
Speaker 1: Just like what do y'all dude? So so the other
Speaker 1: thing that they point to as a potential explanation, this
Speaker 1: is not what people were saying back then. This is
Speaker 1: what what people have now sort of at least suggested.
Speaker 1: Might be the conclusion that some also believe it was
Speaker 1: a result of effects of psychotropic mold known as ear
Speaker 1: got that basically grows on damp stalks of rye and
Speaker 1: then could produce a chemical similar to s L S D.
Speaker 1: That's probably the answer many days. Was she eating that mold?
Speaker 1: I don't think she was eating it. I don't think
Speaker 1: she was like having a big hold. I'm taking LSD.
Speaker 1: It doesn't last for days. Yeah, well that's they're saying that, like,
Speaker 1: or at least the suggestion feels like it's saying like
Speaker 1: the rye had been an inhalent all over the city
Speaker 1: type ship. Oh and then they collectively, Yeah, everybody's scott
Speaker 1: high off this LSD in their homes and and across
Speaker 1: the city and now they're dancing in Times Square. Doesn't
Speaker 1: tell me why I want to hear both the reasons
Speaker 1: why I every time because I I read I was
Speaker 1: reading something about there's some as ship that happened in
Speaker 1: like Switzerland, to where they was like the town was
Speaker 1: collectively on LST. Have you ever been on psychlic like
Speaker 1: psychotropic drugs around other people? Your experiences are not at
Speaker 1: all unified. It's not like it's not like that. It's
Speaker 1: like everybody's kind of going through their own ship. So
Speaker 1: to get four hundred people who are tripping to be
Speaker 1: involved in this like group hallucination, it's like I call Shenanigan. Well,
Speaker 1: here's what I'll say is that you are presuming that
Speaker 1: the people who are not dancing are not high as well,
Speaker 1: And there could be an argument that, like everybody was high,
Speaker 1: but everybody was having different experiences. And those were just
Speaker 1: four hundred people who had a line in terms of like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we're dance high, motherfucker's versus these other people who are
Speaker 1: like sit at home with their arms folded and think
Speaker 1: about did anything else weird happen in the down that day? Oh,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of evidence of that. I think
Speaker 1: they were real focused on the dancing. See then, know,
Speaker 1: if it was like four people were dancing, two people
Speaker 1: decided it's fun to steal from seven eleven people like
Speaker 1: did mouth stuff like befowing each other, then I would
Speaker 1: be like, oh, that makes sense, Like everybody's kind of
Speaker 1: acting out of here. I got you. But you know,
Speaker 1: nobody invented mouth stuff. Therefore it's it's unlikely that this
Speaker 1: was the thing that was happening. I don't think that.
Speaker 1: I think mouth stuff goes back as far as people
Speaker 1: go back. You think mouth stuff goes further than dancing.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think people have been putting it
Speaker 1: in their mouths since they've been putting food in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we have always put genitals in mouth. Hell yeah, Mandel,
Speaker 1: you are you're you're on the pro At this point
Speaker 1: day David took the con where where it explained to
Speaker 1: me why you believe this? That just sounds like geeker activity.
Speaker 1: And so I'm gonna go with Dad, that sounds like
Speaker 1: some of the geek duck. Maybe the bread, maybe the
Speaker 1: robe mixed in with the LSD make you want to
Speaker 1: jig a little bit. You know, I haven't seen plenty
Speaker 1: of people jig on a lot of things. And maybe
Speaker 1: and maybe today it was LSD. Yeah, you put that
Speaker 1: bread with the LSD. You on that dance flow. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just what it is. So one of the most
Speaker 1: interesting explanations that I found that I think, actually it's
Speaker 1: going to be a great connector back to this original
Speaker 1: conversation is the reference to something called collective psychosis, which
Speaker 1: argues that cultural influence, religion, supernatural beliefs, gossip right, might
Speaker 1: lead people to enter a disassociative mental state in which
Speaker 1: their normal consciousness is disabled, causing them to carry out
Speaker 1: irrational physical acts. But this was in France, right, Why
Speaker 1: didn't they all start kissing? Well, that's that that's literally
Speaker 1: their thing. So I think what they're saying is the
Speaker 1: irrational would not be to kiss, but to dance wildly
Speaker 1: until you're that Literally. They describe some of these people
Speaker 1: as like being bloody from from having danced all day
Speaker 1: for two months. To wait, you didn't say two months.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, Yes, this lasted for two months. I've
Speaker 1: been getting nigh this whole time. I forgot. So you
Speaker 1: said they the holly Ghost for two months. That's right,
Speaker 1: they called the Holly Ghost. Well that yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: a way of thinking about it. Yah, that's that that is.
Speaker 1: And I guess where it connects me back where I
Speaker 1: start to think about the original conspiracy theory, right is
Speaker 1: I think about this girl and how like Snopes and
Speaker 1: these other people that claim it's not real would say, well,
Speaker 1: it's unlikely that somebody would want to dance that hard
Speaker 1: or give that much energy to it and that would
Speaker 1: eventually snap their neck whatever, whatever, whatever. But I think
Speaker 1: we're really talking about like this, this cultural psychosis that
Speaker 1: we could all find ourselves in. It's just us trying
Speaker 1: to one up each other and get further into sort
Speaker 1: of like a place of value with our dance moves,
Speaker 1: with our bodies, and that could force a person exactly.
Speaker 1: I understand that, Yeah, a person would suddenly kill themselves
Speaker 1: on on some just desperately wanting to be a part
Speaker 1: of this cultural imprint. I I feel like I've definitely
Speaker 1: been in a party and the time is right and
Speaker 1: the lights are hitten, and I'm like, I would kill you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I felt that. I felt that before.
Speaker 1: I feel My only issue though, is that it was
Speaker 1: two month stuff. You get what I'm saying at some point, Well,
Speaker 1: what I'm surprised at that they didn't die without food
Speaker 1: and water before two months? Yeah, Well, I think that's
Speaker 1: what they're saying is that that's over the course of
Speaker 1: two months, a hundred people died. So I don't think
Speaker 1: that literally everybody that started with FRAU made it all
Speaker 1: the way through two months. In fact, I read something
Speaker 1: that said that it was something like fifteen people a
Speaker 1: day dropping dead from whatever this was. So I think
Speaker 1: they started off dancing and then some people would drop out,
Speaker 1: some people get tired and not come back. But over
Speaker 1: the course of two months, this dancing never stopped. M hm, Well,
Speaker 1: people gotta chill out with that. That's what I got,
Speaker 1: And honestly, I think that's the best way for us
Speaker 1: to put a stamp on this. I truly don't know
Speaker 1: a better way for us to end this conversation with
Speaker 1: with just hey, people, gotta chill out out with that. Look,
Speaker 1: if you hate cops because of the the next time
Speaker 1: you get in trouble, call crackhead, call him up. Man,
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna dance to they die, dance to
Speaker 1: die because they're on psychotropic drugs. Huh, Mandol, could you
Speaker 1: tell the people where they can find you on? What
Speaker 1: cool should you have going on? Man? Don't find me?
Speaker 1: Fire your lord and savor man um. Thank you all
Speaker 1: for having me, bro, I just need I love that.
Speaker 1: That's what you were about to go into is an
Speaker 1: acceptance speech. But yeah about thank you all. Shout out
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Speaker 1: to tell the people where they can find you what
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