WEBVTT - Ep. 56 — So, About That Debt I Owe...

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back. We're back, We're back, We're back. Hey Mandy,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, mis Tiffany.

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<v Speaker 3>We are doing a very special midweek recording of Brown Ambition.

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<v Speaker 1>But we both have something in common. We've got something

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<v Speaker 1>in comment. I heard you won an award. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>saw the picture. First of all. Let me say that

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<v Speaker 1>your hair was everything and that dress was really cute.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you very much, Hey TJ Max thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my good Mandy Snatch.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. You know it's funny, so thank you so much. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I was awarded by the National Association of Black Journalists

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<v Speaker 3>in New York for Best Online Investigative.

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<v Speaker 2>Story for a story I wrote last year.

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<v Speaker 3>About students who were cheated by the Corinthian College Corinthian

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<v Speaker 3>College for Profit scandal, so really exciting. That story took

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<v Speaker 3>me like probably two months, and I thought I many

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<v Speaker 3>times like drank myself into a stupor because I was

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<v Speaker 3>so stressed at it was a hard story. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>really nice a year later to get that recognition, especially

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<v Speaker 3>from NABJ, because they've been my faan for a decade.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever since I set foot on my college campus. I

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<v Speaker 3>went straight to NABJ as signed Up.

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<v Speaker 2>Started out as a treasurer work my way Up.

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<v Speaker 3>I was president by my junior year, and it's such

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<v Speaker 3>an amazing professional organization, really supportive of more inclusiveness and

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<v Speaker 3>media and it couldn't be more important what NABJ does

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<v Speaker 3>than times like now with what's happening in the news.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was a really nice night. And thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for mentioning my hair. Because guess who I ran into.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Miss Jesse herself. Well not Miss Jesse herself, the

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<v Speaker 3>founder of Miss Jesse, Miko Branch was there because she

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<v Speaker 3>was sponsoring the goodie bag, So you know I had

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<v Speaker 3>a couple goodie bags with her.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say, you know what, these days, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what put on my locks, but that's awfo. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you Miss Jessee story later.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, she handed me.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, she's you know, you know, black women, we

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<v Speaker 3>are all about the branding. She literally pulled a book

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<v Speaker 3>out of her purse and was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my latest book.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't but I can't because that is so me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, so you want to buy the bracelet

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<v Speaker 1>or nah? She was.

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<v Speaker 2>She was really sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>I met her through her her one of her sort

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<v Speaker 3>of publicists. His name is Patrick, and he's just like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Patrick's one of these characters who you just

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you want them to tell you stories all

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<v Speaker 3>day long. He hosts like a karaoke night in Harlem

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<v Speaker 3>like every weekend. He's just he's just one of those

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<v Speaker 3>people who knows everybody. So thank you, Patrick, if you're listening,

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<v Speaker 3>for introducing us to miss Miko Branch and we might

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<v Speaker 3>try and get her on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>It may or may not be happening, but yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was lucky that my hair looked okay because there

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<v Speaker 3>she was in the flesh right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like dentists. I'm like, I'm not looking at your teeth,

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<v Speaker 1>they are looking at your teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to tell you though.

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<v Speaker 3>I started reading her book and then I tried her

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<v Speaker 3>products from the goodie bag last night in my hair.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have tried every like all of the shelf

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<v Speaker 3>products except for like miss Jessie' because she tends to

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<v Speaker 3>be more expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get the Shay and the Carol's Daughter and

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<v Speaker 2>what else. Have I tried everything, but I haven't tried

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<v Speaker 2>miss Jessee stuff. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you what it's called. It's some kind of curling meringue.

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<v Speaker 3>It all sounds like dessert, but it was, yeah, like

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<v Speaker 3>I put it in my curls, and you know, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm two years into this transition and I'm struggling to

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<v Speaker 3>get Some parts of my hair want to be curly

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<v Speaker 3>and some parts are like you've been beating us with

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<v Speaker 3>a flat iron for thirty years, so we are gonna

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<v Speaker 3>stay straight.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, like it really defined all my curls.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's an unofficial plug for whatever Miss Jelli miss

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<v Speaker 3>Jessie is selling, because uh, it's good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have my own wind. This week, I too,

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<v Speaker 1>was honored by some brown folks, the National Association of

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<v Speaker 1>Black Accountants NABA hey neba. So it was really dope

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<v Speaker 1>because my dad is an accountant, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>teach money stuff. So they gave me the Entrepreneur Award,

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey's Finest Entrepreneur. I don't know about all that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 2>In what context?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Fine?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Just me look like fine?

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<v Speaker 1>It's such an interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Description for an award.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, and I thought that was weird. I mean, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no shape, nap I'm totally excited. But I did was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, al, I'll take it. The got to celebrate themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta put that on your brand now in New

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<v Speaker 2>Jersey's finest I know, no, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Really the award was for they're looking for small businesses

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, not only make a profit, but that

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<v Speaker 1>are shifting and changing the community for better. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, that's me, that's me. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>really great because it was just a room. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a Newark where I lived, so that was really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>And my sister came, so that was really nice as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I invited her because you know, Superman is tired of

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<v Speaker 1>going to these awards where he just sits and says, oh, hi, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Superman, so so she came. So honestly, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a really nice night and she dressed me as per usual.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, beautiful, I love that dress.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, JC Panny, Honey. I think it was like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty bucks who jaz Benny. Yes, I know, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I was no shade JC Penny, but let's be real,

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<v Speaker 1>you were not really known for being fashionable. But she

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<v Speaker 1>took me to buy clothes like earlier in the summer

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<v Speaker 1>and we saw this dress and she's like, you should

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<v Speaker 1>get it, and I was like, but I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any place to wear it. She said, A place will appear,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm glad I bought it because yesterday I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what I was gonna wear. And I looked

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<v Speaker 1>into my closet and there was with a tax till

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<v Speaker 1>on it, and so there I was twenty dollars fly em.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like, that's the universe at work right there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>don't don't use that if you're budgeting. Don't use that

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<v Speaker 3>excuse for everything. If I buy this, buy it, If

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<v Speaker 3>I buy this boat, the money to pay for it

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<v Speaker 3>will appear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, it was. It was a really great night.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so to look at us two awards, nice.

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<v Speaker 3>To be recognized, and I was, were you did you

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<v Speaker 3>have to give a little speech when you won?

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<v Speaker 1>I did, and so like I just I just talked

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<v Speaker 1>about how an accountain changed my life my father, and

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<v Speaker 1>how what they're doing matters, and how it changes the

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<v Speaker 1>lives of people who are around them, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>never know who you're going to touch and who they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to touch. As a result, leave.

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<v Speaker 2>It to you to make accounting and make me want

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<v Speaker 2>to tear up.

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<v Speaker 1>You. I was good. I was like, you can't get

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<v Speaker 1>at this stuff. I was like you.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, yeah, I didn't realize I wasn't have to give

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<v Speaker 3>a speech and they were honoring so many amazing journalists.

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<v Speaker 3>Raheema Ellis from NBC won the Lifetime Achievement Award that night.

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<v Speaker 3>She's one of those reporters and anchors who you see

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<v Speaker 3>all the time, but she's like the like the backbone

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<v Speaker 3>of some of those NBC News reports and like on her.

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<v Speaker 3>They did a really nice package for her and NBC

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<v Speaker 3>produced and they had Lester Hold Tom Brokaw talking about

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<v Speaker 3>Raheema Ellison.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>What was crazy though?

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<v Speaker 3>When when she got up to the stage she was

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<v Speaker 3>accepting a Lifetime Achievement of ward. This woman looks like

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<v Speaker 3>she is thirty two maybe maybe thirty two, maybe thirty five,

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<v Speaker 3>like a very wise thirty five. It's just so she

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<v Speaker 3>looks so beautiful, so young, and she was like, just

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<v Speaker 3>so you know, I'm not done yet.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was a really nice speech. It was

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<v Speaker 2>hard to follow.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so there was a woman there who was

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<v Speaker 1>being honored. I said, only black women. Her name is Natasha.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it Rogers, so her bio read like one. Natasha

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers is a engineer, lawyer, has her NBA worked at

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<v Speaker 1>Goldman's Facts. Mandy, I was like, it's almost like four

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<v Speaker 1>people in one and she's thirty five years old, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at her like, how houseway? How do you

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<v Speaker 1>MEI was born and raised in the projects of Newark,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was and I asked her how she was like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I was singularly focused on not being broken.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>The first the first in her in her family to

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<v Speaker 1>go to college. And she just said, growing up the

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<v Speaker 1>way group was so traumatizing that I honestly was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I will not come back. I will not I will

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<v Speaker 1>not come back here. That I have to do better.

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<v Speaker 1>So she said it just motivated her and that she

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like like collecting degrees for the sake of collecting them.

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<v Speaker 1>She said that when she wanted to achieve a different goal,

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<v Speaker 1>they would tell her where you need that, and she

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<v Speaker 1>would just go get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like you just describe what brown ambition is

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<v Speaker 3>all about for real. Honestly, that's a band ambition moment

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<v Speaker 3>right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, she and when you meet her, Manny just so like, oh, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up? Like just you you clearly she's brilliant. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have an engineering law and an MBA from

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<v Speaker 1>like some of the top schools and just be like

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<v Speaker 1>some like regular everyday thinking person. She's clearly brilliant, but

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<v Speaker 1>so down to earth. It's so nice. And she was

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<v Speaker 1>honestly like, I'm not gonna lie. At thirty five, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>finally coming up for air. So like, what's going on, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening on here in the world?

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<v Speaker 2>Brandolina still together.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, Kylee, She's like, Jackson is pregnant.

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<v Speaker 2>We may be going to Mars.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you see the pleasures of Janet with their baby?

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<v Speaker 1>And so I told her, I was like, I took

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<v Speaker 1>her number. I was like, don't worry, girl, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get you. We're gonna get you socialized. But we had

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<v Speaker 1>such a great conversation about like you know, like just

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<v Speaker 1>about life and relationships and just like you know, achievement,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just such a really good conversation. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought to myself, this is what I wish

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<v Speaker 1>more people could see. It's just women like her who

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily you're not going to see her in the

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<v Speaker 1>news or whatever necessarily, but she's amazing, you know, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>what was her name and was you know, I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>the worst like me find.

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<v Speaker 2>Her miss gold Go ahead and miss Golden Golden sex.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember her. Her first name was the Pasha and

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<v Speaker 1>her Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay, I need to put her on blast like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to say, hi, miss.

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<v Speaker 3>Natasha, thank you for carrying the Brown Ambition flag.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and being for being amazing and for she said

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<v Speaker 1>no matter where she goes, she represents for new work

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<v Speaker 1>and she wants to show that they're you know, there

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<v Speaker 1>is good here, you know, because you know how people

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<v Speaker 1>are out a certain cities.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we should share more.

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<v Speaker 3>We have some amazing listeners out there, don't I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if missus Natasha is a listener, but if you

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<v Speaker 3>guys have little inspirational stories, I mean, feel free to

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<v Speaker 3>go to Brian Ambition dot com Brianambition podcast dot com

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<v Speaker 3>and you can just send us your story through to

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<v Speaker 3>ask us anything for It's super easy.

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<v Speaker 3>And today's show is basically all about you, guys. We

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<v Speaker 3>are finally getting to the questions that we've been putting off,

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<v Speaker 3>so we have a handful of questions today.

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<v Speaker 3>To be all about you, your money and career questions,

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<v Speaker 3>to those again. You can go to brand Ambition podcast

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<v Speaker 3>on the show. But before we get to questions, I

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<v Speaker 3>got to hear about fin Con.

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<v Speaker 1>So finn Con was it was all different in this way,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know how usually fincn's like four or five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred of your closest financial friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Right for people who don't know, describe the FINCN is

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<v Speaker 3>important to me and Tiff because it's where we met

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<v Speaker 3>in person.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye fIF God is a finance It started off as

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<v Speaker 1>a financial bloggers conference, but it's since grown to a

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<v Speaker 1>financial content conference. So you get bloggers, writers, speakers, educators,

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<v Speaker 1>all things money and finance. They kind of gather here

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<v Speaker 1>once a year and it's all around the country. Pet

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<v Speaker 1>who is the founder of finn Con, Philip Taylor, he

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<v Speaker 1>decided this year year he wanted it to be the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest year yet. So typically fin Con is between three

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<v Speaker 1>and five hundred folks, and this year it was almost

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen hundred or about thirty Mandy honestly, So it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly how the old folks felt. We were all like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I'm used to going to finn Con

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<v Speaker 1>and knowing not all the faces, but like a good

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<v Speaker 1>chunk of them. Yeah, So you know, this time I

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<v Speaker 1>went and I was like, I don't know you. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know you. I don't know you. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know you or you oh u either. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was I mean, San Diego was beautiful, the location that

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<v Speaker 1>he chose was beautiful. Everything looked great. So it was that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I felt both good and not good about

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of people because one there were so many

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<v Speaker 1>more brown people. Oh my gosh, Mandy, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a plethora of beautiful brown people.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a huge change from last year.

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<v Speaker 1>What we took over, what so many of us went

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<v Speaker 1>Plutus Awards. So Plutus Awards for those of you who

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know, are like the Emmys for financial educators, writers

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. And so I think, like Tanya

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<v Speaker 1>one from my Fat Finance tie in talent from His

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<v Speaker 1>and Her Money. Some other browns one me and Patrise

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<v Speaker 1>hit the main stage. So right before the keynote, they

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<v Speaker 1>had something called the Big Ideas and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a Tedex style talk. So I went on Friday, Patrice

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<v Speaker 1>went on Saturday. I don't think any brown person has

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<v Speaker 1>ever hit the stage, so they have two. This year

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<v Speaker 1>was like amazing. We were thanks, we were and honestly

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<v Speaker 1>it was so in that respect. They clearly heard our

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<v Speaker 1>grumblings from last year about there being a lack of diversity,

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<v Speaker 1>and this year they really surged forward and had so

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<v Speaker 1>many speakers, so many podcasters, so many people there. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a picture for you from the podcast movement

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<v Speaker 1>of like they have our picture brighton center and one

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<v Speaker 1>of their on one of their band o word cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I've a picture said to you. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta take it, said Bandy. So yeah, it was just

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<v Speaker 1>it was good in that way, and that there were

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<v Speaker 1>way more people like you know, so more way more

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<v Speaker 1>people of color. But it was also I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I lost touch with some of my old FINCN family. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I said, I all all fin Con was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>They're having it in Dallas twenty seventeen, which is Pet's hometown. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've heard a little whisperings that there might be

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<v Speaker 1>some shifting in finn Con. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm sure he's tired. I don't know. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me not even say, let me not even say.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, are we breaking news or are we breaking night?

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<v Speaker 2>What's happening here?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you know, brendan ambition and listeners come to hear

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<v Speaker 3>about the latest in Finncon drama. That was exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>they're here for.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you're like, who what, Let's move on, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah that's Fencon news.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, congrats to all them, the powerful pos representing

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<v Speaker 3>fin Cone.

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<v Speaker 1>The browns, and yeah, that part was really great to

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<v Speaker 1>really see, like, wow, so many great brown people here

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<v Speaker 1>doing their dang.

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<v Speaker 2>And we both so you're so today. It's been a September.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I don't even know where it went

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<v Speaker 3>or like what all happened. Just so much happened in September.

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<v Speaker 3>But the highlight was that wedding last weekend. These were

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<v Speaker 3>my best friends. And I'll tell you the quick story

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<v Speaker 3>of us. It's a romantic story. So I've never been

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<v Speaker 3>in a I've never I've been in my sister's wedding,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was a very small, intimate wedding. I was

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<v Speaker 3>the only one standing up with her. This was the

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<v Speaker 3>first time I was like a bridesmaid in my best

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<v Speaker 3>friend's wedding. And this is my friend Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>He and I met.

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<v Speaker 3>So to flashback two thousand and five, Hurricane Katrina hit

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<v Speaker 3>the Gulf Coast. I was a freshman in college. I

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<v Speaker 3>was home in my dorm with a nasty cold, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like flipping through MTV and I saw an

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<v Speaker 3>ad looking for volunteers. They were going to send to

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<v Speaker 3>the Golf Coast to like help rebuild after and they

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<v Speaker 3>were accepting one hundred kids from across the country, two

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<v Speaker 3>from each state, and they were going to go to

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<v Speaker 3>the Gulf Coast Mississippi, Louisiana and help them rebuild.

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<v Speaker 2>And I entered. I don't know what possessed me.

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<v Speaker 3>I entered this contest and they picked me and another

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<v Speaker 3>and like a hundred other kids from around the country

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<v Speaker 3>and we all went. We were all just like babies.

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<v Speaker 3>It was my first time flying on a plane by myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I had never really traveled alone before. I had never

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<v Speaker 3>even gone to like summer camp. I mean I didn't,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was going to spend a week with all

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<v Speaker 3>these strangers, and it ended up being like the single

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<v Speaker 3>most important week of my life, if I can, if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not even being that dramatic about it, because the

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<v Speaker 3>friends I made there were still friends.

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<v Speaker 2>To this day.

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<v Speaker 3>And Brian was one of the very first people that

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<v Speaker 3>I met in We were in Biloxi, Mississippi, during that week,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was just that week is the reason why

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<v Speaker 3>I became brave enough to travel and travel by myself

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<v Speaker 3>and do more volunteering, and it taught me how to

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<v Speaker 3>be a leader. I kept going back every year and

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<v Speaker 3>came a team leader. I mean, just so impactful, and

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<v Speaker 3>not least of which was because of the friendship. So

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<v Speaker 3>Brian and I met, of course during that trip, and

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<v Speaker 3>then all my other best friends that are now all

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<v Speaker 3>over the country, we all met and now that we're

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<v Speaker 3>all older, it's just it's been ten years and I

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<v Speaker 3>was at the I was, you know, part of Brian's wedding,

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<v Speaker 3>and it just it like hit me when I was

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<v Speaker 3>standing there watching him get married to his wife, Diana,

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<v Speaker 3>who's also become a really good friend of mine, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like the biggest baby. It was real embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like doing not even a cute cry, like

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<v Speaker 3>the ugly cry, like I had to hide, I had

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<v Speaker 3>to hide behind my bouquet. But it was just, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's such a I don't know, I've never been in

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<v Speaker 3>a wedding like that before. It really felt like damn,

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<v Speaker 3>like full circle. Yes, seeing people you love love each

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<v Speaker 3>other and get married, and like all my other friends

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<v Speaker 3>from that trip were there, and I don't know, it

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<v Speaker 3>was it's just it's amazing that we all came this

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<v Speaker 3>far and we could all be together. It was just beautiful, beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's really because you're like, you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to my best friend the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw her like downtown and she had her son,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, Meanwhile, I've known Drena since middle school

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<v Speaker 1>and so it still has not hit me that she

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<v Speaker 1>has a child, because it's like, you're making that transition

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<v Speaker 1>in your mind that like people that are no longer

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<v Speaker 1>ten can now have kids, like you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like and so like whenever I see her with her son,

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<v Speaker 1>like my mind categorizes it is, Oh, there's Drena with

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<v Speaker 1>this kid, like like not her kid. When then she

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<v Speaker 1>said something like I don't know, like you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>tickle him or whatever. And then it hit me. I'm like, wait, meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>the baby is one years old and it's my godson.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wait, Drena, this is your baby. She looked

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<v Speaker 1>at me like what is wrong with you? I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>now it just hit me, like how is this happening?

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<v Speaker 1>How are we appropriating? Because it just seems weird when

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<v Speaker 1>people get married have kids, people that you've known, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you were too young to do those

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<v Speaker 1>things and when it had happens making that transition. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like both emotional, it's cool, it's fun, but yeah it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. But so I could totally you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, it's wild, and Brian was like, yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 3>no secret if you know Brian, I love you, Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>He listens to the show. He was one of our

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<v Speaker 2>early fans.

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<v Speaker 1>He was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a little bit of a player back in

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<v Speaker 2>the day. It's, you know, in a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little bit of a I'm gonna use a d word,

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a douche in some ways, A

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<v Speaker 3>lovable douche, but a douche nonetheless.

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<v Speaker 2>And we had our moments.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I moved to New York City in twenty ten,

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<v Speaker 3>he was one of my first first people I called,

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<v Speaker 3>and he and his cousin Tran God Tran Like they

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<v Speaker 3>lived in the teeny tiniest I mean, they called it

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<v Speaker 3>a two bedroom, but it was like two closets in

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<v Speaker 3>a hallway. And they lived in that teeny tiny apartment.

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<v Speaker 3>And Brian still was like, you can come stay with us.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a little Ikia cot.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll make it work.

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<v Speaker 3>And I stayed there for two weeks, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he would That's how that's the asb like, the love

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<v Speaker 3>that we had, and that's our friendship. And I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>really I'm just so happy for them, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just and I'm next.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was also tripping me out because now that

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<v Speaker 3>they're done out. It feels like, oh shit, I gotta

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<v Speaker 3>put on a show now, because they did.

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<v Speaker 2>They did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was really pretty. Like there was one picture

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<v Speaker 1>that I thought that you posted. It was like she

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of like far away and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just so beautiful. It didn't even look like

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<v Speaker 1>a real person or wedding. It was just beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>She was a human precious moments all that's what, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that is what. Diana was, this goddess who could not

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<v Speaker 3>think she was less of a goddess. I mean she

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<v Speaker 3>she's like so humble, and I'm like, Diana, can you just.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop for a second.

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<v Speaker 3>And just like accept that you are the beauty goddess

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<v Speaker 3>queen that you are right now because literally two hours

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<v Speaker 3>before her wedding she was ziplining and doing kickball and

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<v Speaker 3>playing long games and having a cookout like that was

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<v Speaker 3>the whole weekend was like at camp. They had archery

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<v Speaker 3>and canoeing and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like so of them and just so beautiful. So,

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<v Speaker 2>without further ado.

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<v Speaker 3>I cleaned out the inbox. You guys send them excellent questions.

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<v Speaker 3>I picked out a handful of some of my favorite questions,

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<v Speaker 3>and again, please do not be shy. I send us

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So here are some questions. Here's our first question.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody told me not to use their names. I'm using

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<v Speaker 3>the names. I'm sorry, you know, call my lawyer if

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<v Speaker 3>someone named Kimoi. I hope I'm pronouncing that right.

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<v Speaker 2>She says, I would really love.

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<v Speaker 3>If you guys can expand on something Tiffany mentioned once

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<v Speaker 3>about how she did a visualization process to make room

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<v Speaker 3>for the men, the man in her life. I'd love

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<v Speaker 3>if you could expand on this and share more tips

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<v Speaker 3>on how I can prepare for the man in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>And then my early thirties and while I don't feel

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<v Speaker 3>the pressure to have kids and I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 3>I want any, I still want to be married and

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<v Speaker 3>be with the man of my dreams. Thanks in advance, Kimoi.

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<v Speaker 1>So kimeoy. So this is what I did well want.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in my early thirties when I started this.

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<v Speaker 1>I had reached out to a friend of mine, like

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<v Speaker 1>the budgetiesta was starting to take off. But every time

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<v Speaker 1>I came home home to an empty house, I was like, Ugh,

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<v Speaker 1>this sucks. Like I wasn't really dating. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>was dating, but he wasn't really a great fit. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know how you date some guys that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not anyone who I'm going to be spending

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of my life with. This is just for now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was tired of for now because when you

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<v Speaker 1>go home, it's you're still by yourself. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>finally ready because I had not seriously dated anyone since

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<v Speaker 1>my late twenties, and on purpose, because I was building myself.

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<v Speaker 1>So I reached out to a friend who was successful.

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<v Speaker 1>She's married with a child, and I said to her,

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<v Speaker 1>she's an entrepreneur, like how how did you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Or you know, like, what can I do? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, you know, everything's going great except for my

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<v Speaker 1>personal life, my love life because family's good, friends were good,

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<v Speaker 1>but my love life was not. And she said, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 1>how many hours a day do you work on a budgeanisa?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I don't know, girl, like all hours? And

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<v Speaker 1>she said, how many hours a day do you work

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<v Speaker 1>on your relationship? I'm like, well, there is no relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>What's to work on? She was like, but work on

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<v Speaker 1>like securing like love. I'm like, well, that's not how

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<v Speaker 1>it works. She said, it is in your thirties. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>in your twenties, you know, things can happen a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more organically. You don't have to necessarily be as intentional,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because I don't know why. I guess you're

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<v Speaker 1>just like free and open. But she's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're at an age where you're wanting someone in

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<v Speaker 1>your life and it's not happening as organically as you'd like,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to put work. If you put a quarter

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<v Speaker 1>of the work toward your love life that you did

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<v Speaker 1>toward the Budgeanisa, you'd have someone. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>at first, it felt unnatural, like I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>put work toward it. I want to, you know, walk

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<v Speaker 1>down the street and bump into someone and I dropped

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<v Speaker 1>my pen and he looks into my eyes and we

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<v Speaker 1>fall madly in love. But she was just like, good

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<v Speaker 1>luck with that, and so I thought about it and

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<v Speaker 1>I said okay. So one I realized she said, even

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<v Speaker 1>if if a man were to come into your life now,

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<v Speaker 1>is there even space for him? And that resonated with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you know what, No, there isn't. So first

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<v Speaker 1>thing I did was something it seems like weird and corny,

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<v Speaker 1>but I started creating physical space in my life just

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<v Speaker 1>to be symbolic. So I started like, like I usually

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<v Speaker 1>sleep like wild all over the bed, and I started

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping on one side of the bed because Boo was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sleep on the other. I actually like pushed like

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<v Speaker 1>some like I opened up some closet space in my closet,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I opened up some space on my dresser

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<v Speaker 1>just for a simple like just the symbolism for me

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<v Speaker 1>was I'm creating physical space in my space for someone. Usually,

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<v Speaker 1>like anybody who knows me knows I'm kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>a tomboy at heart. I mean, I get dressed up

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<v Speaker 1>to speak, but that is not me. So I usually

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<v Speaker 1>will leave the house looking like who shot Bob and why?

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<v Speaker 1>So I stopped doing that. I was like, no, at

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<v Speaker 1>least you don't have to get dressed up, but at

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<v Speaker 1>least look decent, like if you see someone, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna like avert your eyes because you know you look crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So and then too leave the house. I am such

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<v Speaker 1>a homebody. And I'm like, she's ativity the man that

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna marry is not gonna knock on your door,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, likely anyway, not likely. So I like actually

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<v Speaker 1>started like leaving because I never if I wasn't doing

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<v Speaker 1>budget theese stuff, I would never leave the house. And

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, no, make it a point, like instead

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<v Speaker 1>of doing work, at home, walk to the cafe in

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<v Speaker 1>a cute dress and do something there. So I started

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<v Speaker 1>doing those things, and I also started doing what I

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<v Speaker 1>call mirror work, where I used to look in the

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<v Speaker 1>mirror every day and tell myself that I was beautiful, amazing, smart,

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<v Speaker 1>Like before I left the house, there's a mirror right

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<v Speaker 1>by the door, and I would stop in it and say, hey, beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>You're amazing, You're Smarty're this year. That just to pump

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<v Speaker 1>myself up. And then I was open to dating non

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<v Speaker 1>traditional like my type, and so well that's what it

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<v Speaker 1>like it all came down to. And then I also

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<v Speaker 1>started looking like, you know, I started I'm like so

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<v Speaker 1>strategic about everything. I really started looking back through my

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<v Speaker 1>old relationships mentally of like which ones, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're really great, which ones weren't really great? And why

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<v Speaker 1>how you know, who did I feel my best with?

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<v Speaker 1>So I could just be clear about what I was,

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<v Speaker 1>what I was looking for, what I was open to find,

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<v Speaker 1>not like he had to be a doctor, lawyer, but

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<v Speaker 1>like he had to be open to the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>I work for myself and what that looks like. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted someone who was a giver because I was

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<v Speaker 1>always dating takers because I'm an overgiver. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tired of always feeling depleted. So I knew I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted someone who was a giver. And I took the

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<v Speaker 1>other things off, like he has to be African American,

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<v Speaker 1>he has to look a certain type of way. I

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<v Speaker 1>took those things off, and I said, what's really really important,

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<v Speaker 1>Him being a giver, him being him being naturally kind.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking for someone who wasn't just nice to me,

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<v Speaker 1>but just nice in general. So those are the things

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<v Speaker 1>I started looking for. And oddly enough, the man I

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<v Speaker 1>ended up being with was someone who I had known

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<v Speaker 1>from in my twenties and we were friends and he'd

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<v Speaker 1>randomly hit me up after I started creating all the space,

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<v Speaker 1>and we went out for like an ice cream kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a date, and I was like, wow, this

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>seems like what it just it just started to like

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<v Speaker 1>tumble for before I knew it. You know, here we are,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I'm pretty sure I'm getting my ring

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<v Speaker 1>on my birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, this ring saga.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I don't y'all don't even know. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to share it all once I get it. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to share all the shenanigans. I'm not fully

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<v Speaker 1>proud of myself, but I don't care. Y'all know I

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>tell the truth. But yeah, so you know so I did. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna say that. That's what I would just

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<v Speaker 1>suggest is creating mental, physical, and like spiritual space in

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<v Speaker 1>your life and being open and honestly staying ready.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the key is being open.

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<v Speaker 3>I think all the things you did probably I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think like I didn't do any of that stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think that the being open to it. I

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<v Speaker 3>think a lot of people get like start to feel like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's never gonna happen for me, I'm never going to

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<v Speaker 3>find them that didn't work out with the last person.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, I'm not this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not that men are dog like and you wrap

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<v Speaker 3>yourself in that negative energy and then you don't attract

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 3>anyone because you're repelling them with that negative energy. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think for me it was I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 3>was a little bit different, and I'm also kind of

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<v Speaker 3>uncomfortable assuming the role of like.

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<v Speaker 2>I've made it.

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<v Speaker 3>I found a man, you know, like, I have so

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 3>much wisdom to impart I was a hot mess for

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 3>a long time. I dated and slept with all the

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 3>wrong people. Well, I mean some right people, but made

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 3>mistakes for sure. Moved to New York, had my fun

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 3>and I like, you know, had my fun or whatever,

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 3>and I was it was around twenty twelve ish, it was,

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you when. It was the fall of twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, you know what, that was cool.

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I think I've done.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of want a more something serious. I'm ready

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<v Speaker 3>for what I deserve, which is, you know, someone who

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<v Speaker 3>respects and loves me and like wants to be there

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 3>all the time, and you know, more of like a

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<v Speaker 3>traditional relationship. And I just became really intentional. And I'm

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 3>not going to say that even worked out it well

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 3>because the first way I became intentional was to start

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 3>professing my love for guys I was close with already.

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<v Speaker 3>It was kind of like the let's just throw something

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<v Speaker 3>at the wall and websticks.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you love, You're pretty cute, love, we're.

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Really good friends. We should probably date each other.

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not gonna lie I did that too ready.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you got to work your way through your

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 2>guy friends, right.

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 3>You gotta just go from one to one, Oh, that

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 3>one's taking Okay, fine, on to the next one. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we've been friends for what I mean, he's cute enough,

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So to the to the male friends who had to

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<v Speaker 3>endure that for me, I apologize I was going through something,

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 3>but it was necessary, Like it was almost my you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when I was fourteen years or how old was I

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 3>fifteen years old? I don't know what it is in

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<v Speaker 3>my brain. I like dare myself to do things. When

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<v Speaker 3>I was fifteen years old, there was a cute boy

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<v Speaker 3>in school and I was a new girl in school, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>brand new to the school, didn't really have any friends,

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<v Speaker 3>super hocky, and but at this cute boy and I

0:30:58.480 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 3>rode the bus together.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even mimber his name.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was around Valentine's Day and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna ask him out. I'm just gonna ask

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 3>him out from Valentine's Day and I just psyched myself up.

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 3>I had literally no girlfriends there to like witness or

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:13.480
<v Speaker 3>help me or whatever. And I just like went to

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 3>his locker and I was like, Hey, so and so,

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 3>do you want to go out sometime.

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh, I'm sorry, my.

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 3>Girlfriend's over there, and it was like my first I

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 3>guess that was my first rejection and ever since then

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 3>I was like, well, okay, I had I experienced that

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 3>I can do anything now. So for me, it was

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<v Speaker 3>more about like it was, I just was tired of waiting.

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 3>I always I always hate waiting for things to come

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.080
<v Speaker 3>to me in a way, and I just like rather

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 3>go out there and get the answer right away, like

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 3>are you into me? Do you want to date me?

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 3>But I'm making myself sound crazy.

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm really no.

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I inmire, You're way more bold than I am. I'm

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>always like really scared. So it's dead. I mean, like

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Mandy said, it's not like the things I did weren't

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 1>for the magic of like you know how people tell

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you like manifestation, and I mean, to a certain degree,

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>I agree, But I'll say this that it was more

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>so to get myself in the mindset to be ready

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:09.239
<v Speaker 1>to have what it is that I wanted. So I

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>did all those things really not because like I thought

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>to myself, oh, if I magically sleep on one side

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 1>of the bed, he's gonna come. No. But it was

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>really like a daily reminder of you know, Tiffany, you

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:21.959
<v Speaker 1>said you want this, so you have to make space,

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, and so it was more symbolic than anything else.

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 1>So honestly, I mean, if you're not leaving the house,

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 1>you know you need to.

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all about the energy you put out, you know, yes,

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 3>And anyway to finish my story after making those wrong

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 3>proposition sounds also like a terrible I'm my worst advocate,

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, like hitting striking out and then I ended up.

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 2>I had been.

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 3>All my friends were like, get online, going Okay Cupid.

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.959
<v Speaker 3>It's the shit, Like you're gonna find somebody on okaycupd

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 3>excuse me. I was like, online dating is lame, it's

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 3>for old people. My mom met my stepdad in like

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 3>match dot com when it first came.

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Out in two thousand and two or whatever.

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 3>But I got on there and I tried, and it

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 3>was almost like the list you made because I'm on

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay Cupid, which I realize now is not the cool

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 3>website anymore because that's, you know, I feel really old now.

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 3>All the young kids are on Tender and stuff. But anyway,

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 3>you put down like you basically put a list of

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 3>what you want, and you put what you're interested in,

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 3>and they find you. People who have that in common already.

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 3>One thing I will say about okay See is that

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 3>when I finally met fiance bou there, I messaged him.

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 3>I never went on any dates. He was my very

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 3>first Oka Cupid date, and I was on there for

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 3>a couple a couple of months, and I found out

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 3>only the creepers would message you, Like it'd be like

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 3>so and so from New Jersey who has like a

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 3>twenty percent match with you, and like whatever I was wearing,

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 3>like sweatpants and his boxers hanging out in his photo.

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 3>Those guys would message me. But I was like, I

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 3>just I can't wait for someone to message me. I

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 3>have to message the guys I'm interested in. And yeah,

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 3>I saw his I saw his page, and I pinged them,

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 3>and we want on a date, like I guess. A

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 3>few weeks later and the rest is history. And I

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 3>know everyone who's online dating probably hates that story because

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:09.839
<v Speaker 3>it's not a reflection of how it usually is.

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Like your first days.

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm actually like sometimes I'm like, well, damn, I thought

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 3>I was going to have my whole you know, sex

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:19.799
<v Speaker 3>and the city online dating. I was going to write

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 3>a blog about it, and then instantly just like found

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 3>mister man, and uh, I mean took me a while

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 3>to realize it was mister the man because I was

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:33.919
<v Speaker 3>still in like my little you know, kind of want

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:38.320
<v Speaker 3>something serious, kind of not sure face. But yeah, I

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 3>think it was all about just me intentionally looking for

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 3>people who were interested in a relationship and stop fooling

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:47.319
<v Speaker 3>around with the guys who I knew, you know, were

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:49.120
<v Speaker 3>just you know, out for having fun.

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that I think, honestly, to me, now that I

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.440
<v Speaker 1>really think about it, that last piece that you just

0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>said made the most difference. I stopped dating the guy

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:02.359
<v Speaker 1>I that was not really like a mad remember I said,

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:03.839
<v Speaker 1>I was like dating I'm like, eh, he was kind

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>of I used to call my fake boyfriend, and it

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, somebody to hang out with and to like,

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, deal with, because like in the meantime I

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 1>actually had to doad that because I'm like Tiffany, like,

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:15.879
<v Speaker 1>you're not leaving any room for the right guy when

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you have in the meantime hanging around, So let him go.

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>And even though it was so comfortable, so when I

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>finally let him go, I was able to like, Okay,

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 1>have space and room really for who apparently for coffee

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 1>that came out of nowhere. I know. So yeah, I

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I mean, honestly, there's no one way. I

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 1>just you know, open intention and getting out there.

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:45.360
<v Speaker 3>Yes, ma'am, okay, you owe us one thousand dollars now, no,

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm kidding. Next question is from Erica. She asks, can

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 3>you talk about writing goodwill letters to companies to have

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 3>negative marks removed from your credit report? Have you all

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 3>done this or know someone you have has? I love

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:03.720
<v Speaker 3>the show. Your website looks great too, thanks, miss Erica.

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 3>I will pass that on to our web developer, Miss Terry. Okay, yeah,

0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 3>good will letters to companies to have negative marks removed

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 3>from credit reports. You must have dealt with this at

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 3>some point, I know I have.

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, I'll say this that you have to

0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 1>remember when you write a good will letter that companies

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 1>are under no obligation to comply, because that's really the

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 1>purpose of the good will letters. That you're just asking, like, hey,

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.919
<v Speaker 1>because people think this about their credit report. That people

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 1>will tell me this all the time, Hey, Tiffany had

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 1>this negative mark. I was late, but I'm on time

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>now and I'm fully paid up. Why is it still there?

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm like girl, because it happened. Your credit report is

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be a report of what has happened, just

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 1>because you've made better decisions, so that better decision will

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 1>be reflected along with the fact that at one point

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you didn't make good decisions right, so you know, so

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:00.760
<v Speaker 1>you have to keep that in mind. So the company's

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 1>not doing anything wrong by keeping your poor decisions on

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.399
<v Speaker 1>your credit report. You know, after a while they fall off,

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>but if it was just like a few months ago

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>or a couple of years ago, they're likely still going

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.240
<v Speaker 1>to be there now. You can write a letter asking

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 1>that they remove them, especially if you've been on time.

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>This is what I suggest to people is that if

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:22.399
<v Speaker 1>you're making like a lump some payment or paying most

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 1>of it off, like before you make that payment, making

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 1>that request like, Hey, I'm about to send my lump

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 1>some payment and know I'm late. Can I ask that

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you do this after I submit this payment? And sometimes

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>you can get them to agree, and then if they

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:40.479
<v Speaker 1>agree on paper like via email or be a letter

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and they don't take it off, you can

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 1>send that to the credit bureaus to say, hey, they

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 1>agree to take it off and they have not.

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you should always get a letter, some sort

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:52.320
<v Speaker 3>of letter with the agreement. But what you were talking

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 3>about making a lump some payment, is that like a

0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 3>form of settling the debt, Like do you mean paying

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 3>the entire thing off?

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, either way, So I find that this that that

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 1>cause I A couple of my friends, so they're, much

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>to their shame, were actually work for like credit collection agencies,

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 1>and they told me that if you're either you know,

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:13.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna pay, Like, let's just say, you know, you owe

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 1>thirty bucks and for whatever reason, you forgot to pay it.

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 1>So now it's on your credit report and you're just

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna go ahead and pay the thirty bucks, So before

0:38:21.239 --> 0:38:23.720
<v Speaker 1>doing so, working out some sort of deal, because ultimately

0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the credit credit people that you owe, they don't care

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:28.920
<v Speaker 1>about your credit report and score. They just want their money.

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 1>So if you're kind of like, you know, not that

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>you're dangling the carrot, but basically you are like, hey,

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I've got your thirty bucks, could you guys take this

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:38.719
<v Speaker 1>off completely once I give it to you? Like I said,

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:40.839
<v Speaker 1>they don't have to, but that's something you could definitely ask.

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:43.840
<v Speaker 1>But let's just say you are gonna settle because you

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 1>owe ten thousand and you're like, I don't have it,

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>and they've agreed to settle for three thousand. So typically

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 1>if they're gonna settle for three thousand, they're gonna want

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 1>a lump some Like, no one's trying to settle for

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:55.359
<v Speaker 1>three thousand. Twenty bucks a months is what you're paying. Yeah,

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 1>so you know, if you're going to settle and you're

0:38:57.960 --> 0:39:01.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna get them that lump some ask. Now, the more

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:03.880
<v Speaker 1>that you're settling for, the more that you're getting off,

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:07.399
<v Speaker 1>the less likely they're going to be accommodating. So you know,

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:09.320
<v Speaker 1>if you're if you owe ten and you're gonna be

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:11.759
<v Speaker 1>paying fifteen hundred, they're probably gonna be like, girl, you're

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:13.800
<v Speaker 1>lucky that you don't have to pay this eighty five hundred,

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 1>you know. But so the more that you're kind of giving,

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the more leeway you have to say, I'm about to

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 1>set this payment, but I would love in writing for

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:23.320
<v Speaker 1>you to say that you'll take this off my credit

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>report as a result, Like I said, you just it's

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 1>just lump sum just gives you more leeway because there

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:33.280
<v Speaker 1>is if I'm paying you month a month, then there's

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 1>no guarantee that I'm going to finish paying you. So

0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like, so why should I take this off? And

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 1>you're it's we have three years until you finish paying

0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>this off. No, so I would, I would, you know,

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I would negotiate with a lump sum payment.

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 3>And it usually works best if you've already missed a

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:50.359
<v Speaker 3>bunch of payments, like when you're in delinquency, because what

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:52.839
<v Speaker 3>leaders will do anyway is they're eventually going to sell

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 3>your dut to a dut collector, and they're going to

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.279
<v Speaker 3>sell it to them for pennies on the dollar.

0:39:57.080 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 2>For whatever it's actually worth. So they could this.

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes they accept settlements or accept lump some payments from

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 3>you because they're probably going to make more money off

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 3>that lump some than if they were to sell it

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 3>to a debt collectorate.

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:11.839
<v Speaker 2>And they know that. But one thing exactly it can

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 2>be done.

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 3>What I will say is if it's over a certain amount,

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:18.280
<v Speaker 3>I believe you have to that forgiven debt. The amount

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 3>that they forgive is treated as taxable income. So you

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 3>may receive a tax from the lender saying we forgave

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:30.080
<v Speaker 3>you for ten thousand dollars. Now you have to report

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 3>this on your taxes, and you may actually have to

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 3>pay taxes on that money, so it may not be

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 3>a completely clean break from the debt.

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>So typically it's like anything over like six hundred dollars.

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:43.720
<v Speaker 1>But my account did tell me if your net worth

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>is zero or negative, then you won't have to and

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 1>most people's networth, like if you're if you're owing that

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:53.280
<v Speaker 1>much money, you probably don't have a network that's going

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 1>to force you to pay taxes on it. But still

0:40:56.160 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 1>you just never know. That's definitely a possibility.

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Yes, ma'am. So let's do one more question. Let's see,

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 3>so this was a super long question. Okay, all right,

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:11.720
<v Speaker 3>so let's do one more question. This was a super

0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:13.799
<v Speaker 3>long question. I'm just going to get to that what

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 3>I think is the real crux of her question, and

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:21.400
<v Speaker 3>it's from someone named Sonny. So Sonny says she's trying

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 3>to get an apartment. She says her credit My credit

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 3>score has remained around six fifty five for quite some time.

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:29.839
<v Speaker 3>I pay all my bills before their due. I earn

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 3>over twenty five hundred dollars per month. Recently, I applied

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:35.879
<v Speaker 3>for a studio apartment where the rent was just seven

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 3>hundred and seventy five dollars a month with everything included

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 3>minus electricity. Sonny, where do you live? Because I am

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 3>moving there because that is so cheap, She says. However,

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 3>the rental company came back to me and declined me.

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 3>They said because my credit line was so small and

0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:55.840
<v Speaker 3>I never expanded it over the course of you know,

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.880
<v Speaker 3>using credit, and that I would require a co signer.

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to do, Please help me. So basically,

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:05.560
<v Speaker 3>she has a short credit history because she waited so

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 3>long to get her first card and then when she

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:10.720
<v Speaker 3>got it, she ran into some issues paying the bills

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 3>and her score is now around six fifty five.

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, being similar.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's like that because she's like at that

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<v Speaker 1>place where it's like it's not terrible, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that good.

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<v Speaker 2>It sucks, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So part of the question I didn't read. She says,

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<v Speaker 3>I've never bothered getting more credit because I'm in the

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<v Speaker 3>habit of couponing, saving and just buying stuff with cash.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's almost like in the in the world we

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<v Speaker 3>live in today, you're almost punished if you don't use

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<v Speaker 3>credit because you need credit to get good credit. And

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<v Speaker 3>although using cash can definitely key and it's good to

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<v Speaker 3>use cash because you're staying out of debt. When it

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<v Speaker 3>comes time to apply for things like apartments, get a

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<v Speaker 3>car loan, mortgage loan, they want to see a long

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<v Speaker 3>sort of credit history.

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<v Speaker 2>So I feel for her.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it is sucky. This is why I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, I didn't understand where my dad had me

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<v Speaker 1>get like a credit card when I was eighteen in

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<v Speaker 1>college and he was like, but you're not allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>use it for anything but books, But it was because

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<v Speaker 1>and I still have that same credit card, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>the credit limit now is thirty thousand dollars and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even I mean for me to swipe over a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand is a lot. And I use it for business

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<v Speaker 1>and paid off in full. But I allowed it to

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<v Speaker 1>expand like that because for that reason. It's because I knew, well, one,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have the discipline, because you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to have a limit of thirty thousand and not have

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<v Speaker 1>the discipline not to spend thirty thousand. But two, I

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<v Speaker 1>use it because I wanted to show that, like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I can manage this level of credit available to me,

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<v Speaker 1>So that part sucks. I would just say that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can call your the person that you have the

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<v Speaker 1>credit card with and see if you can get an expansion.

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<v Speaker 1>But know this that asking for them to increase your

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<v Speaker 1>credit limit that might result in a harder in career.

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<v Speaker 1>So ask that because sometimes they have to look into

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<v Speaker 1>your credit to see if they're going to allot you

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<v Speaker 1>more credit. And a hard incree, a hard inquiry well

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<v Speaker 1>temporarily lower your score. It's not for a super long time.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a trade off because you do like

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<v Speaker 3>it's helping your score by having a larger line of

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<v Speaker 3>credit available to you, But then you get that little ping,

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<v Speaker 3>the little ding on your score from asking for more money.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Like my advice would be okay, So you need to

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<v Speaker 3>I understand why they're asking you for a co signer.

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:27.799
<v Speaker 3>Rental apart rental companies sometimes a lot of times do

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<v Speaker 3>do credit background checks and may ask for a co signer.

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<v Speaker 3>If no one's willing to be a co signer, you

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<v Speaker 3>might just need to find another.

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<v Speaker 2>Place to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you can write them a letter, you know. I

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<v Speaker 3>did this when I first moved to New York. I

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<v Speaker 3>had to put in an application with my landlord and

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<v Speaker 3>her lawyer, you know, did the credit background check, and

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize I'd never checked my credit before, and

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<v Speaker 3>my credit score was terrible because when I was in college,

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<v Speaker 3>someone opened up a Chase credit card under my name,

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<v Speaker 3>racked up twelve thousand dollars and never paid it. I

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<v Speaker 3>never heard about it, never knew about it because I

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<v Speaker 3>never checked my credit and that's how I found out.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like, I can't approve you because this happened.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had to file disputes with the credit bureaus,

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<v Speaker 3>and I wrote the landlord a very long letter explaining

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<v Speaker 3>what happened, showing proof that I filed a dispute, and

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<v Speaker 3>based on their own you know, they were just being basically,

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<v Speaker 3>it was up to them and they were nice and

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:18.840
<v Speaker 3>they decided to take a risk on me. I also

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<v Speaker 3>sent a letter of referral from a previous landlord who

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<v Speaker 3>said I'd always paid the rent on time and then

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<v Speaker 3>I was a good tenant, and I think that a

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<v Speaker 3>long way toward convincing them to accept my application despite

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<v Speaker 3>the what my credit history showed. So that's one thing

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<v Speaker 3>you could try. Either, you know, get some letters recommendation,

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<v Speaker 3>write a letter to them explaining what you know, what

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<v Speaker 3>your situation is, or try and find someone you know

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<v Speaker 3>who you trust and who trust you to be a

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<v Speaker 3>co signer or you know, unfortunately you may have to

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<v Speaker 3>find somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then letters do really work because I remember

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 1>when I went to buy my house, I was like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, and I didn't have like a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of like debt and credit and stuff, and so oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually had to get my landlord to write a letter.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to get a notarized, and I had to

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<v Speaker 1>show like bank statements showing that like, yes, on the

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<v Speaker 1>first of every month, I made my my rent payment

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<v Speaker 1>for like the last two years, So that helped. That

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<v Speaker 1>went a long way, because ultimately, what they're really doing

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<v Speaker 1>is trying to figure out are you the type to

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<v Speaker 1>pay mm hm. So if you can show them that exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>if you could show that that to them through alternative means,

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<v Speaker 1>then that should be helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, miss Sonny, good luck to you.

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I like your name too, Sunny miss Sonny.

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it was was a pseudonym, but I like

0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 2>it too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're just gonna call you that anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, our lovely listeners. So we have some sort

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<v Speaker 3>of sad news. I guess we're gonna have one we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be one podcast short for October. I believe Tiffany

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<v Speaker 3>for exciting reasons. I'm heading to London with my little Hermannito,

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<v Speaker 3>my little brother today for a brother or sister trip

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<v Speaker 3>to London, and Miss Tiffany is going through.

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<v Speaker 1>Heavy yes, and I'm going to Paris and my mom

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<v Speaker 1>prag which I'm super excited about. I leave on next

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 1>week and I'm like, yes, I've never been to Paris,

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 1>although I've been to France and so yeah, So we

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:15.400
<v Speaker 1>will be gallivanting and we won't be able to tape,

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<v Speaker 1>but we will think of you as we enjoy Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll come back with some great stories and maybe

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>some croissants. Yeah, well, we won't be able to share

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<v Speaker 1>them with each other. Maybe with each other.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll be there in spirit, listeners, So in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>That we yeah, awesome, you'll already know.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, you know you know listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait, I.

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<v Speaker 2>For all that. Nope, you're not gonna get me. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 2>bom voyage. Yeah, I wish to be luck. It's my

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:18.200
<v Speaker 2>I haven't been to London before. I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think you'll enjoy. I've been twice and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not my face.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah okay, never mind, talk to you about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a good trip, all right, girl,