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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, May nine. This is Jaguar's Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: and now Jacksonville's most promising unsigned rookie free agents. J P.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Joe welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on

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Speaker 1: this Thursday. J P. Shaddrick, Jeff Logman, Tony Boselli is

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Speaker 1: in roots. We're told we'll see if he gets here.

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Speaker 1: When he gets here, and the show starts at four o'clock, right,

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Speaker 1: it just started. I mean, in fact, yes, what part

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Speaker 1: of that didn't you understand? He's only been doing it

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Speaker 1: for how long have we been at four o'clock now?

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Speaker 1: About a year? A couple of years, about a year.

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Speaker 1: It's glad he's gonna be here. I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 1: step one. Will he be here on time? We'll work

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Speaker 1: on that plenty to get to tonight. Some breaking news

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Speaker 1: this afternoon. We'll start with Telvin Smith's Instagram announcement. That's

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Speaker 1: the biggest news of the day. Rookies arriving as well.

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Speaker 1: They're making their way into Jacksonville today last night, some

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Speaker 1: of them. We'll get into some of those guys positions

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Speaker 1: to watch which one of these undrafted guys could make

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Speaker 1: the team and at what position? We'll go around the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. Let's start today with news that came

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Speaker 1: just about thirty minutes ago or so, and Telvin Smith

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Speaker 1: put out an Instagram announcement and it is a long one.

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Speaker 1: At Kelvin Smith five zero on Instagram. It was said

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Speaker 1: to me from a great coach that in order to

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Speaker 1: be for the man to be his best, he must

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Speaker 1: get his world in order. At this time, I must

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Speaker 1: take time away from this game and get my world

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Speaker 1: in order. I must give this time back to myself,

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Speaker 1: my family, and my health. I appreciate all the support

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Speaker 1: I will and will not get. I just ask you

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Speaker 1: all respect my decision to not play football this season.

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Speaker 1: I know the rumors of trade talk came about, but

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Speaker 1: I started my career in Jacksonville, and the day I

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Speaker 1: do decide to call it quits, it will be right

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Speaker 1: here and do well. I love you all, and even

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Speaker 1: in my time off, it's ten toes down. You feel me.

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Speaker 1: Love end quote from Telvin Smith. Now, I've been told

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Speaker 1: that there has been no contact between Telvin himself and

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Speaker 1: the organization even up to this point, that this announcement

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Speaker 1: today about thirty minutes ago, was the first they had

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Speaker 1: really heard about this crazy, right, amazing. Uh, you kind

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Speaker 1: of you start to kind of put the pieces together

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Speaker 1: a little bit. You had the cryptic comments by Dave

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Speaker 1: the draft, the comments by Doug Morons said that he

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Speaker 1: had no contact with Telvin, and then last week Telvin

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Speaker 1: came out with the audio. I didn't see the video,

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Speaker 1: but I heard a number of different videos and and

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Speaker 1: weren't focused. They were kind of a little bit all

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Speaker 1: over the map, I think is a way to kind

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Speaker 1: of put it. And so your first reaction there as well,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just like in social

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Speaker 1: media worlds sometimes it's hard to make or to come

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Speaker 1: to some type of conclusion off of something that you

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Speaker 1: see that is a little bit all over the map. Well,

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Speaker 1: then you see this and it makes you wonder what

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Speaker 1: does a couple of things. One is is that when

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Speaker 1: a player makes an announcement that he needs to take

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Speaker 1: time off a lot of times or it has happened

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Speaker 1: in the past where it means that something's coming down

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Speaker 1: from the league to prohibit that player or to keep

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Speaker 1: from from playing. Anyway, I'm not saying that's the case.

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Speaker 1: That's the same that That's something that came to my mind.

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Speaker 1: Option number two is is what the things that we're

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Speaker 1: kind of all over the map and some of the

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Speaker 1: things that he said last week, is that there is

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Speaker 1: some personal problems going on. Uh Is it uh? Mental?

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Speaker 1: Is it uh some type of family issue that's extremely extremely,

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Speaker 1: don't know. All I know is is that when a

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Speaker 1: and there's been no communication to anybody in this organization,

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Speaker 1: those are the I don't want to say you jump

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Speaker 1: them we all like Telvin, I like the guy concerned

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Speaker 1: about him from a from a mental standpoint, from a

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Speaker 1: he said he wants I must give this time back

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Speaker 1: to myself, my family, and my health. Those are three

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Speaker 1: key points he made in one sentence there in the

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Speaker 1: middle of this thing. That mental health is that physical health?

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Speaker 1: And I don't know the answer to that. But if

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Speaker 1: feeling that that's not physical, that that may be mental.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to decipher something here now. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying I know anything. Keep going all right? Uh? And

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Speaker 1: then you know he's not gonna play football this season?

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Speaker 1: He says, what does that mean from a football perspective

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Speaker 1: for the Jaguars? Now? Can they is the contract frozen?

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Speaker 1: Can they get some money back for the cap um

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Speaker 1: do they pay him at all? What happens with this,

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Speaker 1: First and foremost, you you don't cut Telvin. He's still

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Speaker 1: they get back? Well, first of all, they're not going

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Speaker 1: playing football. Uh. Number two is is the signing bonus recuperation.

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Speaker 1: so we got two million as essentially was earned. The

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Speaker 1: The team has put out a statement that they will

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Speaker 1: not have a comment about Telvin Smith's statement at this time.

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Speaker 1: the PR department. Uh, And that is just that's at

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Speaker 1: football games. And so you need to do what's best

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Speaker 1: that includes getting moneies back from Telvin Smith, so that

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Speaker 1: why it's kind of confusion as to why Telvin has

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Speaker 1: to utilize the resources of the National Football League in

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. It doesn't mean that you go out

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Speaker 1: to get better, it's it's on a platter. The NFL

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Speaker 1: I I still think from what I've understood and inquired,

427
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Speaker 1: that nobody in this building has any idea. And the

428
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: first glimpse they got of it was the Instagram. Right,

429
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 1: there's been no contact. I actually don't I think they

430
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: are shocked now, But Jeff, they let me ask you

431
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: a question. Players disappear and do crazy stuff. All the time. Yeah,

432
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 1: but not like not not ones that wear the C Tony.

433
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: Let me know, the last time that you've ever even

434
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: heard of a player has zero contact with anybody, not

435
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: through the agent, not himself. I haven't heard of that.

436
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: And then I don't know if I've ever heard of that,

437
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: and then on Instagram says I'm taking a year off,

438
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: like so, I don't I think they are shocked now.

439
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 1: I think they're highly frustrated that there was no communication

440
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: forget about what happened just now up until this morning

441
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: or whenever that was released up to that point. I

442
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: think they're frustrated, mad what the heck is going on? Thinking,

443
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: you know, typical player, you know, he's mad about something,

444
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:50,959
Speaker 1: whatever it is, whatever the reason. That's normal, Like that's like, okay,

445
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: that's that happens. What doesn't happen is a guy who's

446
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: making like seven million dollars a year, like through Instagram

447
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: without calling the organization or anyone else, says I'm out

448
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: for the year. I don't know if you think, I like,

449
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: it's shocking to me. It's shocking that it's gone that far. Yeah,

450
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: probably that's my point, But but I don't think the

451
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: team is surprised given what they've seen or the lack

452
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: of what they've seen so far. I think they're shocked

453
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: by the car. I think they're shocked by the fact

454
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: that he is saying he's gonna sit out a year

455
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: without communicating with them first. I think the team has

456
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: made preparations that maybe play both sides, because last week

457
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: both of you and I said that they I'm just

458
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Speaker 1: saying at this point, there's nothing that you can make

459
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Speaker 1: of it. But in hindsight you would say, I mean, look,

460
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: you you draft a guy, which is Look, I think

461
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: that was totally didn't have anything to do with Tellvin.

462
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: But I think the multiple signings that you had a

463
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, that was a little bit of

464
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: a wake up calling. I don't think it's a wake

465
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Speaker 1: up I think they may be protect that's that's what

466
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: it is. Wasn't a wake up. It was a team saying, look,

467
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: we don't know what's going on here. We need we

468
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: need to cover. Let me tell you who you're starting.

469
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: Will is right now, the kid from Murray State. No Miles,

470
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: Jack and you moved Jake grinded Mike. Yeah, I think

471
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: you're right. Yeah, but here's the thing that I said,

472
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: and that when when somebody makes a statement like that,

473
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: what's your first reaction? First of all, your first reaction

474
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: is the concern I worried about him, concerned about the

475
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: individual one And I think that's what the team, with

476
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: their release that they just put out has has implicated

477
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: that they're concerned about him, no doubt. Number Two is

478
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 1: that you know, the first thing you want to do

479
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: after you get past that point is as you start

480
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: to speculate what could it be players that have done

481
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: something like this. Number One, you think of, Okay, maybe

482
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 1: something's coming down from the league that's going to tell

483
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: him that he can't play anyway, But the team would happen.

484
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: Number one, if it was a year long, that means

485
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: you would be already in the program. Because the first offensive,

486
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: any drug, whether it's a p D, the first street

487
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: drug you get nothing, you get putting the program. The

488
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: second one got popped at the combine. But the second

489
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: is he in the program? I don't know. But the

490
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: second one, Jeff, is only four games, four games for

491
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: street drugs, second one, first one for pds. Four games,

492
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: Like the team would have an idea if that was it,

493
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: Like we've lived through that person before. Yea, here here,

494
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: let me go back to this. I didn't say that

495
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: it was some type of substance abuse. I'm saying it

496
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: could have been something else that's unrelated. But that would

497
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: but the team would know that as well. No, that

498
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: not necessarily. The other point would be is that maybe

499
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: there is some type of substance that is involved and

500
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 1: is having a problem. I mean, those are things that

501
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: you just flashed through your mind. But let's say I

502
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: don't even want to speculate. It's unfair to televin at

503
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: this point, and it's just not unfair to tell. Then

504
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: would that be unfair to tell? Then? Well, when I

505
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: say unfair to any individual, because you know, you start speculating,

506
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: people listening to us, they can always it a drunk thing.

507
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a drunk thing. We don't know. Nobody knows,

508
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: but you can speculate all you want. Well, fair enough,

509
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: I guess that's what we do. But you would typically

510
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: if it was a drug issue that the league had

511
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: nothing to do. But he's struggling, like with a lot

512
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: of people, do like at that point you go to

513
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: the team because they want to help you get through it.

514
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: I just said, just to JP a minute ago because

515
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: he said that he needs the time to help himself.

516
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: And I've made the statement that the team in the

517
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: league have the most resources that anybody and let me

518
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: stop you, right, more than anybody. Okay, forget the resources

519
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: and who has what resources? If that's the issue, and

520
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: he's getting good advice, and I'll tell you what worries

521
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: me trying to say this. He's supposed to make seven

522
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: million dollars this year or six whatever it is. You

523
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: go talk to the team because then you get to

524
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: help and you still get paid. No, I'm just telling

525
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: you that comment, sense, I mean, think of it, Jef,

526
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: Come on, you're not wrong. The money is not even

527
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: I don't even think it is the firstest thing from

528
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: Telvin's mind. But man, it's on your mind because it's

529
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: a lot of money. And look, I get that, listen.

530
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: I know I've known enough people when you're when you're

531
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: having issues like apparently, tell then is the money you're

532
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: not even thinking. That's why I don't think it's a substance,

533
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: because it was a substance that people around him would

534
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: be telling him, hey, listen, let's get some help. I

535
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: don't know, tell the team and let's make sure you

536
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: telling just telling have anybody around him right now. And

537
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: those are the things you don't You don't know the

538
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: basic salary this year acording your spot track nine point

539
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: seven five okay from nine point seven five millions, Like

540
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you're going get like like please,

541
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: if it is a substance abuse, people have you go

542
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: tell the team because you get paid. People have issues.

543
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: They're not thinking about the money. That's okay, Jeff, But

544
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: that's where you go to the next level of what

545
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: other issues, whether it's a mental health issue or something

546
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: like that. That's the part that's what you get. You

547
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: get scared, you get worried about it. And that's a

548
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: real issue that a lot of people deal with. And

549
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: you don't want that on anybody. And so and we're

550
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: speculating what it could be. I have no idea. But

551
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: for somebody, I'm just I know you're saying it's the

552
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: money or whatever. Let me just tell you something real life.

553
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 1: For somebody to walk away from ten million dollars at

554
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: the prime of their career, something's going on that is major.

555
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: Well let's talking I'm not just a totally different subject,

556
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: but but it's similar and that it relates to money.

557
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill a guy that was looking at making I mean, well,

558
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: he's looking at making twenty something million. But all he's

559
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: gotta do staling straight, narrow, narrow right. He can't he

560
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: can't correct his own behavior to get to the point

561
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: to where he could make twenty million dollars a year.

562
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: Would he not make twenty million dollars a year? Type

563
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: of player eighteen? But Jeff, But that's so that's to me,

564
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: that's different. Now, it's different in the sense that I

565
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: got tyr Ke Hill and he still has not been

566
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: convicted or anything else. They're in still investigating. We'll see

567
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: where it plays out. But obviously the tape is disturbing

568
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: that we've all everything else. But that's obvious a guy

569
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: that it's not like he decided to walk away. He's

570
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: been forced. So it's different to me, Like Telvin Smith

571
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: on his own volition as far as we know, because

572
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: he hasn't communicated anything else, any other anyone else is

573
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: walking away from ten million dollars. That's what like is

574
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: like it just like something is off to think that's

575
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, JP, Because like it's guys

576
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: all the time getting trouble and they're forced to miss

577
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: out of making money. And to your point, Jeff, it's like,

578
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: can't you just figure out to make the right choice.

579
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: Obviously they can't, and it cost him a lot of money.

580
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: This is somebody does not communicated with his team, His

581
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: agent has communicated, the team has been radio scient except

582
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: for some stuff over Instagram and Twitter or whatever else,

583
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: and is walking away from ten million dollars. Now we've

584
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: seen it, you know, last year, most notably, a player

585
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: sit out all year because he wanted a new country.

586
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: He was different totally, and he was out in the

587
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: media and everywhere saying that's why. And by the way,

588
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 1: he has at he's due to make twenty million dollars

589
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: the next two years combine. And by the way, Lean

590
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: Bell or three or two years connect season, Levian Bell

591
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: would immediately come back to work if they would have

592
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: paid him what he wanted. And this is like, I've

593
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: never seen anything like it. No, You've seen guys at

594
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: the end of their career to say I've had enough.

595
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: They've made a hundred fifty million bucks or a hundred

596
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: million bucks like the last whatever. It's like, I'm just

597
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: done with the game. I'm tired. I don't want to

598
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: play any more. My body can't handle whatever the reason is.

599
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: But in the prime of their career, with no sign,

600
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: no warning, no communication, nothing else, a guy who finished

601
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: the season relatively healthy, whatever, and just to say that

602
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: I don't need ten million. Do you remember one like this? Slugs? No, No,

603
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't. Let's come back. We'll delve into this a

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Speaker 1: I want to play. That's what I asked. Do you

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Speaker 1: want it back? Let's say let's let's say it's uh

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Speaker 1: Telvin Smith said, Hey, you know I had to change

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Speaker 1: the heart. I'm coming back. That's a tough one. Would

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Speaker 1: you take him? The hard part of it? I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you would take him. He's a good football player. But

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Speaker 1: but where is he at? Where where is he at mentally?

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Speaker 1: Where is he at physically from taking all that time

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Speaker 1: off and then all of a sudden making a decision

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Speaker 1: to come back. I think that's that's a tough That's

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Speaker 1: a tough one to answer without knowing what the circumstances are,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, you gotta have a conversation with him

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Speaker 1: when he's if he ever says that, no, but I'm

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Speaker 1: saying he comes. I mean, look, I'll just give you

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Speaker 1: this scenario comes back, you can tell he looks like

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Speaker 1: he's in shape and sits down at the end, said,

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Speaker 1: you know, I where's his mind at? Like, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you would absolutely take him back as long as you

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Speaker 1: know nothing's happened between you know, now and at that point,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, it's no different than Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I would, he was still too better than the players

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Speaker 1: you have no Well that's no matter what, but I would.

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Speaker 1: I would take him back to But long as the

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Speaker 1: rest of the boxes, you know, we're checked and there's

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Speaker 1: nothing that I mean, I would do some homework. Now. Well,

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Speaker 1: and here's the thing. Yeah, and I mean we're talking

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Speaker 1: about all hypothetical here, but let's say Tuvin walks away

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Speaker 1: like Tony says, he comes back in July and he says, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to report. You have to take him back

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Speaker 1: or release him. Yeah. Yeah, he can force your You

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Speaker 1: have no choice. He can force you. Just say no.

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Speaker 1: You can. You can find him for missing the mandatory

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Speaker 1: mini camp that you had, But as far as far

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00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: as everything else, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You know,

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Speaker 1: you can't recoup the signing bones or anything else. Walk

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Speaker 1: in the door, and say I'm here, which is why.

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Speaker 1: Like again, if you're tellingn why even announce it? Like

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Speaker 1: if you don't want to play football this year, Like

717
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Speaker 1: there's no there's no pressure to announce that right now.

718
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 1: That just shows you do nothing, just do whatever you want. Mentally,

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Speaker 1: he's not, he's not worried. He's not getting good advice.

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Speaker 1: One of the wh someone's giving him bad advice. If

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Speaker 1: he's getting advice at all, or he's not listening to

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Speaker 1: the which is bad. Maybe he's listening to the bad

723
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: advice on that from that person inside that you shouldn't

724
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Speaker 1: take advice from. Everybody's got kind of that person on

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Speaker 1: the inside. It gives them bad advice and they do it.

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Speaker 1: Who's that for you? I know that's you. For me,

727
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: like it's the advice you give me. I try not

728
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: to listen to I try not to listen to you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So we're equally the person inside and not to listen

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Speaker 1: to him. Wow, what a day. It's crazy. An I

731
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Speaker 1: think he did it just for our show, Like let

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Speaker 1: this have it. I'm glad on there, boy, No, I'm

733
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Speaker 1: not glad. I hate it because we all like Tellvin

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Speaker 1: always been, at least personally for me, a guy I

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Speaker 1: like to talk to and enjoy having around. You know,

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Speaker 1: the one person that I would not be shocked it's

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Speaker 1: already trying to reach out to him. Yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: the same thing. They were very close. Yeah, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be surprised that. And by the way, that'd be a

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Speaker 1: person if I was telling talking to tell them, Sith

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Speaker 1: be a good, good guy to listen to. I mean,

743
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Speaker 1: I listen whether I liked tell them, dislike him or not.

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Speaker 1: It's irrelevant to me. I hate that this happens to anybody.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't. I mean, whether it's on our

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Speaker 1: team or anywhere else. It's just whatever is going on,

747
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Speaker 1: you wish him the best and and uh, I hope

748
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Speaker 1: he figures it out and it's nothing that's um too

749
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Speaker 1: serious or you know, it's long term detrimental, whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: You know it's not good, um, and you just wishing

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Speaker 1: but nothing but the best. It's bigger than football that

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Speaker 1: at this point obviously, all right, let's move. By the way,

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Speaker 1: you asked a little while ago, had I had we

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Speaker 1: had ever seen anything like that? And Tony said no,

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Speaker 1: right away. We said, I said no, but but I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's the same, but the

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00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: situation with Justin Blackman. But Jeff, he was suspended from

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Speaker 1: the from by the league reason the only reason I said,

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Speaker 1: try to get reinstated. He That's one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: why I kind of bring it up, and that there

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Speaker 1: was a player that just didn't didn't care to do

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Speaker 1: any take any of the steps to come back to play,

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Speaker 1: and there were steps to come back and play, and

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Speaker 1: he didn't want to play. Justin didn't have two things. One,

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Speaker 1: he didn't want to give up alcohol and that was

766
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: very clear. Number Two that he had some mental health issues,

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Speaker 1: and he just he walked away from the game millions.

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00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about it, but he might not

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Speaker 1: have loved the game either. Maybe not. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the one thing we forget and this in this

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Speaker 1: organization's history though. That's the only other comparison that you

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Speaker 1: could draw to this situation right now. But listen, there's

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Speaker 1: certain you have, in my estimation, to be successful in

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Speaker 1: this league, to play at the level that you want

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Speaker 1: to be great or even good, you have to love

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Speaker 1: the game. It's a hard game. It's difficult, and some

777
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Speaker 1: guys just don't love it and they like football or

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Speaker 1: it's like okay, it's good, I like like kind of whatever.

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Speaker 1: Some guys just like the paycheck. Well some guy, but okay,

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Speaker 1: but even for the paycheck, you better love the money

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Speaker 1: like a ton because football is hard. And if I

782
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: think it's a hard game, if you're just like take

783
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Speaker 1: it or leave it to hang in there and all

784
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: that it takes, it's it's easier than it used to be.

785
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: Like it was really hard the old ways is to

786
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: get through the first two six weeks. But it's a

787
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: hard game. It's it's physically demanding. It takes a toll

788
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: in your body. It might even it might I'd argue

789
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: with you, Tony, that might be harder. Now I disagree.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Jeff, I mean I'm not I'm not talking

791
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Speaker 1: about from the standpoint of the number of practices and

792
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: the off season or anything like that. Jeff. You get

793
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: paid more to do less, harder. But but the give

794
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Speaker 1: me the one thing, one thing that hasn't changed is

795
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: that the level of discomfort that you have to play

796
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: weekend and week out with what what has what has

797
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: changed is is how medicated that you can be going

798
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: in the Sunday for today's players compared to when we

799
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: did that. That is not Don't tell me that, Tony,

800
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: because you were medicated like a champions like players are today,

801
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: can't do that. You can, yes, you can still go

802
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: to your Not like you don't even tell me that.

803
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: If you're living in the past. You're like a grumpy

804
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: old It was way harder back when I did it.

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00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: I don't tell me that the games weren't. No, no,

806
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: it's just it's actually you could argue some positions aren't

807
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: as physical as it used to be, but it's still

808
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: a very physical, demanding games. You say that the game

809
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: is not as physical as it used to, there's certain

810
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Speaker 1: parts of that aren't. Jeff, come on, like, okay, if

811
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Speaker 1: you're the ex player saying that it's still a tough game,

812
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: I just said that what it was when I did it.

813
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: But like nowadays, you go across the mill, you're like

814
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: Keenan Jimmy went across they were getting smoked. You can't

815
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: lay a finger on You can't do that anymore. Across

816
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: the field still get hit, like, okay, here's there thing

817
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: got hit. I didn't say it didn't. There's your your

818
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: your position. Were you played outside but three techniques not

819
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: as physical it used to be. Why Okay, let me

820
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Speaker 1: ask you a question. If you played three technique, would

821
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Speaker 1: you rather be playing day or then when I could

822
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Speaker 1: throw on the back of your knees at will with

823
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: no all Still the repetitive blows are still stick. Some

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Speaker 1: of the cheap shots that you offensive lineman used to

825
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 1: use on the defensive lineman. Yeah, that's been outlawed by point.

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00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: I still think it's the it's obviously the most physical

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Speaker 1: game in the world. I mean, it's it's it's crazy

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00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: on game day. It's crazy. That has not changed, you know,

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Speaker 1: if I'm talking it's changed, it's that changed a half percent,

830
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Speaker 1: nothing substantial. But what has changed. We would have to

831
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Speaker 1: do that on Sundays and then you would have physical

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Speaker 1: violence two more days during the week on Wednesday and Thursday,

833
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: that you just don't have anymore. That was just us

834
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: that everybody else. I'm just talking about you and I

835
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: everybody else pretty good. Think about the recovery periods that

836
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: they get all week to recover. How much better you

837
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: would feel on game day. That's all I'm saying, no doubt.

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00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: All Right, let's come back. We'll go around the two

839
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Speaker 1: days you have to take those. Heck, yeah, time signed

840
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Speaker 1: me up a block a clock when you had to

841
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: get off the field. I mean, you're the union guy.

842
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: And when I used to say that, I don't know

843
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: why we had two days. Back then people used to

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Speaker 1: call me some union You're just a locker room lawyer,

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Speaker 1: know earlier today on Tinton Excel, it's the Jaguars Today

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Speaker 1: program right from tender Noon. You guys are part of it,

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Speaker 1: you're not on it. I did the I did the

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Speaker 1: morning show once a week breakfast, right, So that's right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've heard that from time to time. But today, Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: of the day on their show right today, if you

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Speaker 1: could own one piece of memory from Jaguars history, what

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Speaker 1: that were mass produced. Think of unique items that there

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Speaker 1: maybe only one of. Some answers included, you know, one

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Speaker 1: of the sprinkler heads from the seven Game, Brunel's cleats

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Speaker 1: from the nineties six Denver playoff games, Scramble, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Acts, the Bloody Acts was one. You know, James

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Speaker 1: Smooth Jersey from the little stuff like which does the

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Speaker 1: football that Morton Anderson kicked and missed? One? That would

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Speaker 1: be that would be number one, number one. There was

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Speaker 1: also an answer involving our friend Jeff Loghman today and

934
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Speaker 1: the answer came on Instagram from DJ from Twitter d

935
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Speaker 1: d J delfonic the bolo tie logs war that made

936
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Speaker 1: TC rewrite the rule to cloth ties only. And there's

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Speaker 1: a photograph of log ha' been wearing a bolo tie.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the one. But before we

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Speaker 1: get can we talk about please bring that picture back up?

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Speaker 1: Can we talk about the fat in Gorge's face of

941
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Speaker 1: Jeff lock him in as a younger man, and the

942
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Speaker 1: cow yes with that hair store nuts for the winner.

943
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Speaker 1: Look at it. Look at the hair. The hair looks good.

944
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Speaker 1: I wish, I honestly wish, but you brought the actual

945
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Speaker 1: bolo type. I think this is it. I'm not positive

946
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Speaker 1: that this is the one, that it was one of

947
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Speaker 1: the two. I got two of them that I can't

948
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Speaker 1: get over the picture. Can I get to copy that

949
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Speaker 1: picture on my phone? What? What it is? The farest

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Speaker 1: from the the history of this is that, seriously, when

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Speaker 1: we were on a road trip on the Jaguars dress code,

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Speaker 1: you had to wear a tie, and in the wording

953
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Speaker 1: said specifically, okay now that at that angle said you

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Speaker 1: had to wear a tie. So I did, and I

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Speaker 1: wore it was either this bolo or It was one

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Speaker 1: that my great grandfather had given me, which my great

957
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Speaker 1: grandfather didn't wear ties, He wore bolos. And so when

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Speaker 1: I wore it. Come back the next week after the

959
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Speaker 1: road trip, and Tony you know that, you know, we

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Speaker 1: had these white metal stools that were in front of

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Speaker 1: our locker, and there was an envelope on my stool

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Speaker 1: and I opened it up and it's a fine letter

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Speaker 1: from Tom cough and it says that you were in

964
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Speaker 1: violation of the dress code and you're getting fine out.

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Speaker 1: It was like two hundred bucks or five bucks, whatever

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Speaker 1: it was. There was a couple hundred books. As I

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Speaker 1: take the letter and I go down the hall and

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Speaker 1: uh knock on his door and I said, we we

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Speaker 1: need to talk. And he said what about? I said,

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Speaker 1: what is what is this dress code violation? What are

971
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Speaker 1: you talking about? He says, Uh, you didn't have a

972
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Speaker 1: tie on. So I had to educate Tom Coughlin as

973
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Speaker 1: to what a bolo tie was and explaining my great grandfather,

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Speaker 1: who was fluent in like five different languages, an ambassador,

975
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Speaker 1: an ambassador to multiple countries published in the Congressional Record,

976
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Speaker 1: wore a yes, a bolo tie that was more than

977
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Speaker 1: sufficient to be a very well respected member of our government.

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Speaker 1: Did he did I can't remember. Did he rescind the fine?

979
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Speaker 1: I don't remember. I know I used to actually remember

980
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 1: the day that Logs got the letter because he was hot,

981
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: he I mean, stormed down there. What was funny is

982
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: that the next year he changed the wording in the

983
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Speaker 1: book that said cloth tie, he added the word cloth.

984
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Speaker 1: Was that the best fine you got is your time here?

985
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Speaker 1: I got fined, I mean, but was it the best?

986
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Speaker 1: I know? Well, I mean I got the best. I

987
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Speaker 1: got fined JP. This is the greatest thing. It wasn't

988
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Speaker 1: even a rule. I don't even know. Like if I

989
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Speaker 1: wasn't a rookie, I would have bought it. But I

990
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Speaker 1: was a rookie, so I just said, I'll just pay

991
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Speaker 1: the fine. I went down to his office. I got

992
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Speaker 1: me Novak and Chung got fined for leaving the team

993
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Speaker 1: meal pregame meal. You didn't eat much because we always

994
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Speaker 1: ate before. We'd always get up early because we're up

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Speaker 1: and we have a big pancake breakfast that in nine

996
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Speaker 1: and so like. So let's say team meals at nine

997
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Speaker 1: seven thirty and we go eat, read the paper, drink coffee,

998
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Speaker 1: and then we walk into team meeting room check in,

999
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Speaker 1: check in. I think everyone said a prayer. You stood

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Speaker 1: around the table, said a prayer, and then everyone sat

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Speaker 1: down and we'd go out and catch a cab to

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Speaker 1: the stadium or drive to the stadium, or drive if

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Speaker 1: we're here, and uh like, after doing like six weeks

1004
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Speaker 1: in a row, we get a letter on our stool

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Speaker 1: and it says you've been fine for leaving. And we

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Speaker 1: went down there and I'm like, and I didn't. I

1007
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Speaker 1: wasn't gonna go. I was gonna pay it. But those

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Speaker 1: guys with veterans and said we're going down there. So

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Speaker 1: I just sat there and he basically said, no, you can't.

1010
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Speaker 1: You have to sit down and enjoy your teammates at

1011
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: pregame meal. Like we already ate and we're there. Why

1012
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Speaker 1: and he says, guy, I said, so, it wasn't even

1013
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Speaker 1: the rules. We got fine. And so what we do

1014
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Speaker 1: is after that, we still eat breakfast. Fran go in,

1015
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Speaker 1: sit down, do the prayer, sit down, and grab one banana.

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Speaker 1: Forty five seconds later, after eating a banana, we get

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Speaker 1: up and leave and go to the And that was

1018
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Speaker 1: good enough. I guess there was the banana rule just

1019
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Speaker 1: eat one banana. You're good. Let's go around the National

1020
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Speaker 1: Football League, shall we. The Telvin Smith news is some

1021
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Speaker 1: of the biggest in the league this afternoon, the three thirty.

1022
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Speaker 1: What are people saying? What are the national guys anymore

1023
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Speaker 1: like on the show? Don't saying anything on Twitter and

1024
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Speaker 1: your track. I'm sorry, but that's really some of the

1025
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Speaker 1: biggest news in the league today. And also breaking this

1026
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Speaker 1: afternoon in Seattle, they're partying ways with Doug Baldwin and

1027
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Speaker 1: Cam Chancellor with failed physical designation. No surprise with Cam Chancellor,

1028
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Speaker 1: it was expected that he was Yeah, and then there

1029
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Speaker 1: was talking about Doug Balling having because he had multiple

1030
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Speaker 1: all season surgeries, but there was talk that he may

1031
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Speaker 1: still try to come back and that, but he had

1032
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Speaker 1: a lengthy rehab process. But uh, I don't think either

1033
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Speaker 1: one of those are a surprise, but maybe Balding a

1034
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Speaker 1: little bit that didn't kind of play out a little

1035
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Speaker 1: bit more. Yeah, those are two names that have been

1036
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Speaker 1: around there for a guy. But uh, I thought the

1037
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Speaker 1: Seahawks did got a great signing Seahawks one year deal

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Speaker 1: nine million dollars six million guaranteed up to twelve point

1039
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Speaker 1: seven five with bonus. I think taking that I would

1040
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Speaker 1: have taken that here all day long. Oh, I would

1041
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Speaker 1: love to have had him. I mean, I think it's

1042
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Speaker 1: a great deal for Seattle for two reasons. They lose

1043
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Speaker 1: Frank Clark because they trade him to the Chiefs. He

1044
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Speaker 1: gets paid a ton of money and so the Seahawks

1045
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Speaker 1: now don't have to pay that money. They got a

1046
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Speaker 1: first round pick in exchange who they used on a

1047
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Speaker 1: draft pick defensive van and then they signed on in

1048
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Speaker 1: free agency post June one, so now it doesn't count

1049
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Speaker 1: towards contensed story picks or whatever. I thought that was

1050
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Speaker 1: a wise move by the Seahawks. And with all of that,

1051
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Speaker 1: see how the shoulder injury is though for us I

1052
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Speaker 1: think he's healthy, he's not. He's the shoulder, and they're

1053
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Speaker 1: saying that he might not be ready for the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the season, but that they're expecting him to be

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Speaker 1: ready soon into the season if he's not. Apparently they're

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Speaker 1: confident enough to give him a nine million dollar deal

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Speaker 1: for one year. Tight End Benjamin Watson planning to come

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Speaker 1: out of retirement. He's visiting the Patriots. He's thirty eight

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Speaker 1: years old, was with the Saints last year and originally

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Speaker 1: first round picking the Patriots in four. Then he retired

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Speaker 1: from from said he was going to retire after Look,

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Speaker 1: everybody else has showing interest and willing to pay him back.

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Speaker 1: Millions of dollars come back? Why not? The Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: started contract negotiations with Dak Prescott and Amari Cooper. According

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Speaker 1: to Stephen Jones, the executive VP, they're also interested in

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Speaker 1: extending Ezekiel Elliott, but they've got another year so to work.

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Speaker 1: They should be paying him first. He's the most valuable

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Speaker 1: of all of those three year I'm just saying, I

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Speaker 1: know you've got him locked up, and I know that

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Speaker 1: you don't have to pay him, and you should. But

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Speaker 1: but and I wouldn't pay him. I would do exactly

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Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are. I'm just saying, from a players standpoint,

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Speaker 1: he is. He is the most valuable player of those three.

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Speaker 1: Not Zeke kind of makes that thing confused. You said

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Speaker 1: you'd pay him thirty seconds later, I wouldn't pay him.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you, if you were in a true

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Speaker 1: free market system, you would pay him first ahead of

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Speaker 1: the other guy. I would actually never pay him a

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Speaker 1: long term to you, I would franchise him until his

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Speaker 1: seventh year. Oh absolutely, I'm I'm just saying I would

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Speaker 1: go find a younger back. I'm saying is that if

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Speaker 1: all three of those guys were free, he would be

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Speaker 1: the first one that you would pay because he's the

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Speaker 1: most important part of that I don't think I'll say

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Speaker 1: this if they were all free agents right now, Dak

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Speaker 1: Prescott will get paid more than does he Goell. It

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Speaker 1: would be more. Would he be a higher power the quarterback? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what. Zekiel is more important to that

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Speaker 1: team than that quarterback. I got him under contract. They're

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Speaker 1: not touching. They'll do it for us. Thanks Lougs, thanks both.

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Speaker 1: Good to see guys, for Bow and Lens and our

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Speaker 1: whole crumb. JP Shatick will catch you next time. It's

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.