Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and no he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3: Elon Muss sent an email to federal employees telling you
Speaker 3: to list five things they did last week or they
Speaker 3: would be fired, which was easier for Elon to do
Speaker 3: because all five of his were got a lady pregnant.
Speaker 2: And yet another Elon baby over the weekend.
Speaker 4: Number fourteen announced Jetty's insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is, it is something. It's I don't know.
Speaker 4: That's the most underdiscussed part of his personality.
Speaker 2: Whatever's going on there.
Speaker 1: I think I may know what's going on there. Don't
Speaker 1: know that. We want to get off on the tangent. Okay,
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about Saturday Live a little
Speaker 1: bit later. So the sketches were hilarious with Shane Gillis,
Speaker 1: but man, it was edgy, edgy stuff, oh racially sexually,
Speaker 1: so much further out there than they normally are. He
Speaker 1: must have had a big role in the deciding of
Speaker 1: the writing or whatever. M watch some of the oscars
Speaker 1: last night.
Speaker 2: I know you didn't. Nobody did. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Why I never hear anybody bring up what I think
Speaker 4: is what killed the Oscars more than anything, even as
Speaker 4: much as the lectures was when they went from five
Speaker 4: pictures to like ten or twelve or whatever. You just
Speaker 4: can't wrap your head around. I think that's the biggest
Speaker 4: change that happened. So instead of I've seen two or
Speaker 4: three of the five and I know what you're talking about,
Speaker 4: most of the time, it's gone to maybe I've seen
Speaker 4: one of two of twelve.
Speaker 2: Or whatever, and I have no idea.
Speaker 4: Who any of these people are, what you're talking about,
Speaker 4: are in your jokes or anything, And it's just so irrelevant,
Speaker 4: you know, not to mention the lecturing in Hollywood and
Speaker 4: just everybody got sick all that sort of stuff. Conan
Speaker 4: hosting I thought was so great. His musical number, I'm
Speaker 4: Not Going to Waste Your Time was really really funny
Speaker 4: with his various time wasting things that he jammed into
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna waste your time song like the worm
Speaker 4: from Dune playing the piano and a variety of other things.
Speaker 4: But the funniest thing he did if you didn't see it,
Speaker 4: because I know you didn't. It was a four hour
Speaker 4: telecast in the middle of it, he had the the
Speaker 4: LA FD, the LA Fire Department come out and tell
Speaker 4: jokes that he didn't think he could get away with
Speaker 4: because they're wrote so respected for fighting the fires. So
Speaker 4: has this firefighters come out and ask them tell some jokes,
Speaker 4: which was really like uncomfortable and funny and in the
Speaker 4: way that Conan always is really like that from the
Speaker 4: actual Oscar broadcast though, And I'll just just give you
Speaker 4: two little things that happened that I really really really
Speaker 4: couldn't possibly stand any anymore. First of all, they they
Speaker 4: no longer show snippets, so when they when they when
Speaker 4: you even get to the best categories, I waited to
Speaker 4: the final four right Actress, Director, motion Picture. I just
Speaker 4: wanted to see that last fifteen minutes to see if
Speaker 4: my Bob Dylan movie one, which it didn't. They don't
Speaker 4: play little clips anymore from any of these, so if
Speaker 4: you didn't see me, you don't have any idea what's
Speaker 4: going on. Then they announced the winner. The winner goes
Speaker 4: up there and they don't have on the screen who
Speaker 4: they are, what they were in, So I mean, you
Speaker 4: couldn't possibly be less interested. Wow, And I don't know
Speaker 4: why they decided to do that. Also, hooray for Hollywood
Speaker 4: and yea for you girl power that they moved so
Speaker 4: now they now do actor, director, then actress, then picture.
Speaker 4: They moved actress to write before best Picture to empower
Speaker 4: women or something. Yay for you, I mean so transparently, Hollywood.
Speaker 4: I mean, just like a nice little reminder in there
Speaker 4: of why we hate everything you do that you may change.
Speaker 2: Whoop the s or fine or flip a coin. Nobody cares.
Speaker 4: And then one more thing I've always hated in awards
Speaker 4: shows when they play people off when they're in the
Speaker 4: middle of something interesting in their speech. Then along comes
Speaker 4: Adrian Brody last night, who I used to like, and
Speaker 4: he wins Best Actor and he gets up there and
Speaker 4: he rambles on about nothing. I had no idea what
Speaker 4: he was talking about, and nobody else seems to understand,
Speaker 4: either something about art and place in the world or
Speaker 4: something like that, and they start to play him off.
Speaker 4: He said, no, no, I've been here before. This is
Speaker 4: not my first rodeo. You're not gonna play me off.
Speaker 4: And then they take the music away and he rambles
Speaker 4: on for like another's two minutes. Everybody's like looking at
Speaker 4: their watch or tapping their television.
Speaker 2: Dude, get off the freaking stage, give him the hook.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
Speaker 4: So? Yeah, and that was the that might have been
Speaker 4: the absolute death knell of acceptance speeches.
Speaker 1: Somebody needs to invent the compelling meter. And if you're
Speaker 1: not above a seven, we're.
Speaker 2: Playing you off.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: No, he's not our fault, it's yours. You're not compelling
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 4: How many times have I seen him play somebody off
Speaker 4: when they're talking about my parents died and their last
Speaker 4: wish was and then they start the music.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, not now.
Speaker 4: But if they're rambling about, go ahead and get him
Speaker 4: the hell out of there. What's the name of the
Speaker 4: movie that won and Cora something like that, Whatever it is,
Speaker 4: it's a it's a dramedy about sex workers. But I
Speaker 4: do like the fact that it was not giant stars
Speaker 4: and made for six million dollars, which, as one critic
Speaker 4: pointed out, that's probably about the worth of many of
Speaker 4: these stars second Home. But the idea that you know,
Speaker 4: you don't need a ton of money to make a
Speaker 4: big blockbuster film. I went to or to make a
Speaker 4: successful piece of art. If that's what you claim you're
Speaker 4: into of course that's not what they're all really into.
Speaker 4: They're into making money. I went to Captain America on
Speaker 4: Saturday night. Couldn't have been a bigger piece of crap.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it was just horrible. And my kids
Speaker 4: said that that the first thing when we walked out there. Geez,
Speaker 4: that was awful. Too long, too convoluted, just just way
Speaker 4: too much everything. But the thing that stuck out to
Speaker 4: me the most, and maybe I've got this in my
Speaker 4: head because of this new Tom Cotton book that's out
Speaker 4: Seven Things you Can't Say about China, is this whole
Speaker 4: United States versus Japan scenario that they dug up here
Speaker 4: for Captain America. And China is never the bad guy
Speaker 4: in any movie, which Tom Cotton writes about in his book.
Speaker 4: And it happened once years ago in that seven Years
Speaker 4: to Bet movie, and all the movie studios got punished
Speaker 4: for it. And so now nobody dares have a Chinese
Speaker 4: bad guy. When we were kids, because Joe and I
Speaker 4: were old, the bad guy was always a Russian, maybe
Speaker 4: in East German, but you know, a communist of some sort.
Speaker 4: Now you can't have the number one foe of the
Speaker 4: United States on Earth, who we're going to be battling
Speaker 4: for all of the rest of our lives as a
Speaker 4: bad guy in a motion picture.
Speaker 2: What crazy is that? Culture? I get it one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: In terms of the business, if Hollywood quote unquote has decided, well, no,
Speaker 1: the Chinese market's too important and so we're not going
Speaker 1: to antagonize them, that's fine. But you have chosen your
Speaker 1: business over any sort of claim to being a moral
Speaker 1: force or you know, any sort of influence on society whatsoever. No,
Speaker 1: you've you've made a choice. Or I mean, it's not
Speaker 1: like they're letting the French off the hook for being
Speaker 1: a pain in the ass. They're letting communists China, a
Speaker 1: malevolent superpower that tortures and slaves and commits genocide, off
Speaker 1: the hook for that stuff.
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, well and one or the other. And
Speaker 4: you're constant mentioning throughout the oscars. I don't about last
Speaker 4: night because I only saw the last twenty minutes really,
Speaker 4: but you know, over the years, all the we reflect
Speaker 4: life back to you in a way that blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: You're not reflecting life at all if you're leaving China
Speaker 4: out of the entire conversation. How how did we get
Speaker 4: so off track that at some point the Oscars mattered.
Speaker 2: I was trying to remember that last night. Why that was?
Speaker 4: Why was that the number two what most watched show
Speaker 4: in America every year? Why do we think they were royalty?
Speaker 1: It all seems so silly now, right, Well, anybody thought
Speaker 1: they were royalties a soft head. But I think it's because,
Speaker 1: you know, movies, when they're not annoying the crap out
Speaker 1: of you, are an amazing art form and they can
Speaker 1: be incredibly powerful or funny, memorable the rest of.
Speaker 2: It and the people who make them we were.
Speaker 1: We appreciate it, but the whole self importance thing just
Speaker 1: just ruined it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, it seems I can't wait to
Speaker 4: hear the ratings. I'll bet I'll bet they were quite low.
Speaker 1: Marlon Brando, he screwed up when you sent that fake
Speaker 1: Indian lady.
Speaker 2: To go get his oscar back in the day. Was
Speaker 2: that seventy one? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was the he was the George Washington of screwing
Speaker 1: up the hospital. Of course, here's completely nuts.
Speaker 4: God, watching that Marvel movie, I just thought, how how
Speaker 4: dumb are we as a culture that like this is
Speaker 4: our big expression of the motion picture industry, this sort
Speaker 4: of thing.
Speaker 1: When they're done designing a compelling O meter, they can
Speaker 1: design a crappyometer. And I would like to see the
Speaker 1: raid of two very different steaming piles of dung, that
Speaker 1: Captain America movie and the transgender cartel Boss movie that
Speaker 1: I watched taking one for the team, because that was
Speaker 1: a tedious horror and they got shut out more or
Speaker 1: less except for the one or nobody cares, but yeah,
Speaker 1: which which one? Because they're they're they're horrifying in such
Speaker 1: different ways.
Speaker 4: I really wish that the lead of the trans movie
Speaker 4: hadn't bad mouthed the whole Black Lives Matter George Floyd thing.
Speaker 4: Oh I know, because otherwise they would have won all
Speaker 4: the awards last night. You know, they would have, and
Speaker 4: it would have been the absolute final nail in the
Speaker 4: coffin of the whole thing would.
Speaker 2: Have been hilarious, absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 4: It's funny that the star wasn't fun I was trying
Speaker 4: to explain this to my kids and they were having
Speaker 4: trouble grasping. So she I can't remember is it he
Speaker 4: or she? Or I don't I don't. I always get
Speaker 4: the trend just like the time change. I can't get
Speaker 4: straight who changed to what? But the trans actor bad
Speaker 4: mounting George Floyd and they couldn't understand. But but they're trends.
Speaker 4: So don't people let don't they like me? No, no, no,
Speaker 4: there's a pecking order on these things. And you have
Speaker 4: to be all in on everything. And I said, you
Speaker 4: got to be all in on climate change, you gotta'll
Speaker 4: be all be in on anti Trump, you got to
Speaker 4: be all in on the Black Lives Matter, you gotta
Speaker 4: be all in on trans there's like one that I've
Speaker 4: left out and.
Speaker 2: The whole intersectionality.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you if you leave one of them out,
Speaker 4: you're out of the pack, and you're just you're out.
Speaker 2: They kick you out. Did you mention Palestinians? That might
Speaker 2: have been it? Uh?
Speaker 4: But if you leave one of those out, you're kicked
Speaker 4: out of the pack. And then this person was on
Speaker 4: the wrong side of Black Lives Matter. So sorry, you
Speaker 4: can be as trans as you want all day long.
Speaker 4: You're out of the pack. You probably don't care about
Speaker 4: climate change. You probably drive a diesel truck.
Speaker 1: What do we call it? Was it the NATO of woke?
Speaker 1: Yes or something like that. Yeah, an attack on one
Speaker 1: is an attack on all, absolutely, and that is the
Speaker 1: way it works.
Speaker 4: That's too bad that happened, though the Oscars would have
Speaker 4: been so good last night. Oh god, I'm gonna watched
Speaker 4: the whole four hours probably right.
Speaker 1: My only question if that horrible and it's on Netflix,
Speaker 1: the transgender Amelia, that Hernandez or whatever it's called, it's
Speaker 1: on Netflix, I would encourage you to watch some of
Speaker 1: it because it is definitely of the so bad it's
Speaker 1: good genre for a while, It's incredibly long, and it
Speaker 1: just would have been interesting to see if it had
Speaker 1: won awards, and because nobody's seen the damn thing, if
Speaker 1: people start flocking to it having heard that it's, you know,
Speaker 1: God's gift, and it would have been interesting to see
Speaker 1: how many people would come out of it saying, oh,
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, it's just a cinematic achievement because they'd
Speaker 1: been told to think that.
Speaker 2: And how many would come out and say, honestly.
Speaker 1: That was a tedious It was like being punished for something.
Speaker 2: It was as idiotic as it was boring.
Speaker 4: Would it anybody on the left had the guts to
Speaker 4: come out and say, look, I'm up with tre but
Speaker 4: that was crap right, probably not coming up, how the
Speaker 4: government's spending, federal government has grown, and where the money's
Speaker 4: actually going these days. And of course we got more
Speaker 4: on the fallout from what happened in the Oval Office
Speaker 4: on Friday, which really should never happen again.
Speaker 2: There's got to be a way to work these things out.
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 4: I'm happy that I've now had a glimpse of the
Speaker 4: sorts of things I've read about my whole life. I've
Speaker 4: only read about them when they happened behind closed doors.
Speaker 4: I'll hear about them years later, but now I know
Speaker 4: what they look like. A lot on the way, stay here.
Speaker 4: Lindsey Graham turned hard on Zelensky on Friday afternoon, as did.
Speaker 2: Who OH speaker Mike Johnson. We'll get to some of
Speaker 2: that stuff coming up.
Speaker 4: And I think one of the more important questions I
Speaker 4: want to hear Joe's opinion, suit or no suit?
Speaker 2: How big a deal is this suit? Oh, for the
Speaker 2: love of god, how big a deal is a suit? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think I accidentally just answered that, are you kidding?
Speaker 1: Seems to be a really big I'd rather talk about
Speaker 1: the oscars. Just the first thing Trump said to him,
Speaker 1: I can't even well, you might not know the whole backstory,
Speaker 1: so I'll bring that to you at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the backstory coming up. Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: going to express this and then we can move on.
Speaker 1: No matter which way you swing politically, unless you're a lunatic,
Speaker 1: there are going to be parts of your coalition that
Speaker 1: you're not real crazy about. It's just part of being
Speaker 1: in a two party system anyway, how government spending has
Speaker 1: grown and where the money is going really interesting analysis
Speaker 1: that surprised me in a couple of different ways and
Speaker 1: did not surprise me at all in others. The increase
Speaker 1: in government spending over the last decade is not as
Speaker 1: big as it appears because of population growth and inflation.
Speaker 4: And so population growth I can't imagine. But inflation, yeah,
Speaker 4: of course. Yeah, that makes when.
Speaker 1: Your population grows, you get more revenue and you spend more. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we have been running deficits for nearly twenty five years
Speaker 1: now as a country. The deficit is what happens in
Speaker 1: the budget every year. The debt is when you total
Speaker 1: all that up, and they say it's partly due to
Speaker 1: structural gaps between tax collections and federal spending. That's the
Speaker 1: good old we want a bucket a quarter worth of
Speaker 1: services for a buck and partly due to emergencies that
Speaker 1: prompted significant tax cuts and spending, although that's always going
Speaker 1: to happen now and again, it's like the Rainy Day Fund.
Speaker 2: It's not an excuse, it's just an explanation.
Speaker 1: So as so, adjusting for inflation population, it shows that
Speaker 1: spending still climbed in the last ten years, but not
Speaker 1: as much as it might seem. And they get into
Speaker 1: some of the complexities of it. We don't really have
Speaker 1: the time, and it's complicated if you don't have the
Speaker 1: numbers in front of you.
Speaker 2: But I'm an important part in a moment. I hadn't
Speaker 2: thought about the inflation part.
Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm shocked at what everything costs all
Speaker 4: the time, I should be shocked even if there wasn't
Speaker 4: an increase in spending in how much debt you know,
Speaker 4: or deficit we come up with every year, because it's
Speaker 4: you know, it would increase. Also the same way my
Speaker 4: son took a girl to lunch yesterday. He asked me
Speaker 4: for some money. I gave him forty dollars. I expected
Speaker 4: to get a good deal of change because he went
Speaker 4: to Cane's Chicken, Caine's chickens fast food. He comes back
Speaker 4: and he gives me like a quarter and three pennies.
Speaker 4: I said, how many people did you feed? So it's
Speaker 4: just me and Hercus forty dollars for the two you
Speaker 4: eat a Cane's chicken.
Speaker 2: Wow yeah it does. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyway, they've got this weird graph. I've never seen
Speaker 1: anything like it before. It's it's blobs representing the amount
Speaker 1: that is well the are spending on Social Security, National Defense, Medicare,
Speaker 1: other health, et cetera. And the size of the thickness
Speaker 1: of the blob indicates how much of the budget is.
Speaker 1: And then the blob kind of is like a bullet
Speaker 1: constrictor with a pig in the middle, except that boel
Speaker 1: constrictor's kind of starvin or got squeezed or something, and
Speaker 1: we're twisting blobs of bowl constrictors.
Speaker 2: Anyway, here's the takeaway.
Speaker 1: Social Security is number one, and is still number one,
Speaker 1: but even more so.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: National Defense, which as of you know, twenty fifteen, because
Speaker 1: we're talking about the decade, was number two and briefly
Speaker 1: number three below Medicare has now plunged, plunged to fifth place,
Speaker 1: and net interest has gone from second to last of
Speaker 1: the ten or so of factors here in a rather
Speaker 1: skinny little bola constrictor up into third place above even medicare.
Speaker 4: Well, that's what do you want keep talking about? And
Speaker 4: he's right, Yeah, I got I'd say, okay, suit or
Speaker 4: no suit? Why that's uh what Joe thinks of that?
Speaker 4: Among other things on the way.
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty, why.
Speaker 2: Don't you wear a suit? Why don't you wear a suit?
Speaker 5: You're the highest level in this country's off of this and.
Speaker 2: You refuse to wear a suit. I just want to
Speaker 2: see if you do own a suit. Yeah, yeah, problems.
Speaker 2: A lot of Americans have problems with you.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I will wear a costume after this war will finish.
Speaker 2: I thought that question was incredibly out of line. Or where?
Speaker 2: But where are you?
Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of people that I really like,
Speaker 4: some of my favorite pundits, they said he should have
Speaker 4: war a suit.
Speaker 2: I have no opinion really on it. Uh. It doesn't
Speaker 2: bother me that he doesn't wear a suit.
Speaker 4: But Axios reported yesterday that the Trump administration told him
Speaker 4: show up in a suit. Him not showing up in
Speaker 4: a suit when the White House said, show up in
Speaker 4: a suit is a bit of a I don't give
Speaker 4: a crap what you think, no doubt, and it probably
Speaker 4: didn't help things. I mean, if you if you saw
Speaker 4: that when they first came together, and it was on
Speaker 4: TV while we were on the air, they had audio
Speaker 4: there when Zelensky gets out of the limo and Trump's
Speaker 4: standing there in front of the White House and they
Speaker 4: meet right there with the cars park and Zelensky walked
Speaker 4: up and Trump said, Hey, I.
Speaker 2: See you dressed up.
Speaker 4: First words he said to him, Wow, So that's stuck
Speaker 4: in his craw that Zelensky did not wear a suit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to admit I'm not with the crowd
Speaker 1: on this. I think it's a lame argument. Zelensky says,
Speaker 1: like Churchill, did I wear this in solidarity with our
Speaker 1: men fighting on the on the front. And if I
Speaker 1: was the president, I'd say, oh, okay, I don't think
Speaker 1: insisting you wear a suit, and when he hasn't for
Speaker 1: years since he got it invaded, that has no significance
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 4: It doesn't to me either, But you're not Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: And Rich Lowry rights in a National Review. I was
Speaker 4: going to read it later but one of the things
Speaker 4: he mentions is.
Speaker 2: You got to have people.
Speaker 4: You got to realize who you're dealing with. I mean,
Speaker 4: if you're trying to accomplish a deal. I mean, we've
Speaker 4: been in this situation before. I've had to swallow my
Speaker 4: pride a gazillion times on various things because of the
Speaker 4: things that set other people off or that they want
Speaker 4: to get what you ultimately want. And Rich Lowry rights
Speaker 4: in the National Review. If your people are smart, they
Speaker 4: would have told you, look, Trump really cares about the
Speaker 4: suit thing. So wear a suit, and you just swallow it,
Speaker 4: and you wear a suit even though you said you
Speaker 4: wouldn't because it matters to Trump, because ultimately what you
Speaker 4: want is the help.
Speaker 2: Of the United States.
Speaker 4: That's the only argument I'd make toward wearing a suit.
Speaker 4: The fact that it actually matters is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could absolutely be described as a different sort
Speaker 1: of self discipline, where you will, whether it swallow your
Speaker 1: pride or what have you, do what is best for
Speaker 1: your long term goals. I mean, you are essentially being
Speaker 1: self serving by acquiescing in that moment, so you could
Speaker 1: describe it as self discipline. On the other hand, there
Speaker 1: is a line you cross where you are being obsequious
Speaker 1: and allowing yourself to be humiliated, and that's.
Speaker 2: Not good for the soul.
Speaker 1: And that is also if you cross that line, that's
Speaker 1: an indication that the deal isn't worth getting. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that that's the case here, but everybody has to
Speaker 1: make their own decision on that. You know, we've talked
Speaker 1: with the wry, bitter humor about prisoners. What do we
Speaker 1: justice department involved individuals? What do the woke crowd want
Speaker 1: to call inmates these days? Capitalist victims? Exactly, victims of
Speaker 1: the patriarchy. Anyway, We've seen parole hearings where the inmate
Speaker 1: says to the pro board essentially I don't like anybody
Speaker 1: telling me what to do right.
Speaker 2: Now, and they're like, yeah, well, I think you're right.
Speaker 2: You need to be chump. Okay.
Speaker 1: That's like one extreme of I'm not even going to
Speaker 1: that's kind of like the hard ass, tough guy. I'm
Speaker 1: never going to give an inch even if it would
Speaker 1: change my life, you know, enormously for the better. Then
Speaker 1: at the other end is you know, the obsequious person
Speaker 1: who just endures humiliation after humiliation hoping that you know,
Speaker 1: it all works out and they're.
Speaker 2: Going to be miserable too. So everybody's got a druther online. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a tough one.
Speaker 4: I uh, I don't think it should matter, but it
Speaker 4: mattered to Trump, and if h I think so. The
Speaker 4: New York Post is reporting that a bunch of Democrats
Speaker 4: met with Zolenski before he went into that meeting, and
Speaker 4: they were telling them, you know, hold your ground, demand
Speaker 4: security guarantees. And I think maybe even the article said,
Speaker 4: you know, don't don't wear the suit you're in, you know,
Speaker 4: this is your state, committed to yourself or whatever. So
Speaker 4: I don't think he got good advice from the Democrats.
Speaker 4: And then there's some other theories that Democrats were there
Speaker 4: to blow it up.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's the case, but I think they
Speaker 4: they missed, miss miss advised him, right, if that is
Speaker 4: exactly what happened. So there's that issue, the whole suit thing.
Speaker 4: The guy asking the question, I mean, Jesus, all the
Speaker 4: things going on in the world, in the number of.
Speaker 2: Lives at stake, to have the question, why do you
Speaker 2: want a suit? Do you even own a suit? Well
Speaker 2: that was.
Speaker 1: Because he was crawling up Trump's behind. The report of
Speaker 1: the graphic metaphor. Yeah, the reporter was just currying favorites
Speaker 1: Trump ros. That's one of the trends right now, especially
Speaker 1: in alternative media. There are opportunities now available to make
Speaker 1: your name in a way that was never possible before
Speaker 1: because you didn't get a sniff of wow, that's a
Speaker 1: really you thought that last metaphor was. First of all,
Speaker 1: I'm not even where did that metaphor come from. That's
Speaker 1: I supposed to be happy if somebody does that to me.
Speaker 1: I'm not happy if you do that to it.
Speaker 2: It sounds painful at best. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, the idea of getting a seat at the table
Speaker 1: of major media and making your name and people.
Speaker 2: Saying, wow, who is that?
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll tune in I was just impossible because the
Speaker 1: bigfoot media controlled all of it.
Speaker 2: And so there's this enormous hunger to get that ticket,
Speaker 2: to ask that question, to be there in the briefing room.
Speaker 1: But the way you get that ticket is to perform
Speaker 1: the aforementioned physically impossible act that I was describing, and
Speaker 1: that is prove how completely obedient and obsequis you are
Speaker 1: to Trump world, which is not something we're going to
Speaker 1: do around here, even agreeing with him as much as
Speaker 1: we do.
Speaker 4: Well, back to the players in the you know, budding
Speaker 4: world War three, as Trump kept saying, you want world
Speaker 4: War three, You're going to drag us into World War three,
Speaker 4: Lindsey Graham apparently met with Zelensky and said, just smile
Speaker 4: and say thank you. Smile and say thank you until
Speaker 4: that little meeting's over, and then get behind closed doors.
Speaker 2: That's what.
Speaker 4: Senator Lindsey Graham's advice was to Zelensky. That is clearly correct. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 4: although a lot of that stuff would have been hard
Speaker 4: to sit there and listen to.
Speaker 2: Man. Oh wait up until the blow up though, it
Speaker 2: was quite congenial.
Speaker 1: Yes it was, and it went on for a very
Speaker 1: long time until that very last question.
Speaker 2: I'll read this text.
Speaker 4: I wasn't planning on reading it yet, but Vance finally
Speaker 4: said something because he picked up on what I was
Speaker 4: picking up on the whole time. Every time Trump brought
Speaker 4: up making a deal, Zelensky responded by saying, he needs
Speaker 4: our support to defeat Putin. They were not talking about
Speaker 4: the same thing. That is part of the problem, and
Speaker 4: that's what you that's why you know, you always talk
Speaker 4: about this and in diplomacy, thing.
Speaker 2: You work all this stuff out ahead of time.
Speaker 4: By the time you sit down together, the deal has
Speaker 4: been you know, the all the eyes have been dotted,
Speaker 4: teas have been crossed. They sat down with different ideas.
Speaker 4: I think Zolensky came in, Yeah, I'm gonna sign it
Speaker 4: if you give me assurances, and Trump had he was
Speaker 4: under the idea that he's going to sign it and
Speaker 4: then we'll talk about, you know how we're going to
Speaker 4: help you out. And if you fear that far apart,
Speaker 4: the argument can get pretty heated pretty fast, I guess.
Speaker 1: Well, and to have it in public like that was
Speaker 1: just a horrifying miscalculation for Zelensky. Maybe some folks think
Speaker 1: he was forced into it or baited into it. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I mean, it's like you can have
Speaker 1: a big blow up with your spouse before you get
Speaker 1: to the dinner party, or at the dinner party.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And if it happens at the dinner party, that's completely different.
Speaker 2: Now it's all on the table.
Speaker 1: Your differences are out in the opens, say, and you
Speaker 1: will be answering for that for a very long time,
Speaker 1: as opposed to it's before it. Everybody keeps a smile
Speaker 1: on their face. Then you get home and you work
Speaker 1: it out. It's it's a it's a horse of a
Speaker 1: different color. It's it's you know, the difference in degree,
Speaker 1: that is a difference in kind or whatever you want
Speaker 1: to however you want to describe it. Now it's busted.
Speaker 1: And where it goes from here, who knows.
Speaker 4: As I've said, I don't think the suit's a big thing.
Speaker 4: I can't believe we're even talking about it. But I
Speaker 4: do think that's what set off Trump from the beginning,
Speaker 4: as it's the first thing he said to Zelensky. I
Speaker 4: will say this for the other side of the argument,
Speaker 4: which I know a lot of you feel like he is,
Speaker 4: you know, denigrading the the r oval Office, the People's
Speaker 4: office by not wearing a suit there. He said, I'm
Speaker 4: not going to wear a costume until this war is over.
Speaker 4: Other people will pointed out, well, you're wearing a military
Speaker 4: costume to signify a certain thing. How about you wear
Speaker 4: a diplomat costume to signify you're being a diplomat.
Speaker 2: At this point, that's not not unreasonable, not unreasonable.
Speaker 4: Lindsey Graham, who has been as big a Zolensky honk
Speaker 4: as you could possibly get supporting him. You know, for
Speaker 4: the last three years we've played at gazillion clips, and
Speaker 4: I've agreed with almost everything Lindsey Graham has said about
Speaker 4: Zelensky said this after everything fell apart on Friday.
Speaker 5: So ram I think complete utter disaster. Somebody asked me,
Speaker 5: am I embarrassed about Trump? I have never been more
Speaker 5: proud of the president. I was very proud of JD.
Speaker 5: Van's standing up for our country. We want to be helpful.
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Speaker 4: So I didn't know how big supporters of Ukraine and
Speaker 4: Zelensky were going to react like I thought. Marco Rubio's
Speaker 4: expression was he was disappointed in Trump and Vance He
Speaker 4: wasn't he was disappointed in Zelensky at least is the
Speaker 4: way he portrayed it yesterday on the talk shows.
Speaker 2: And I didn't know how Graham would react. Well here
Speaker 2: he was Friday afternoon.
Speaker 5: What I saw in the Oval Office was disrespectful and
Speaker 5: I don't know if we can ever do business with
Speaker 5: the Zolensky again.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: I think most Americans saw a guy that they would
Speaker 5: not want to go in business with. The way you
Speaker 5: handle the meeting, the way he confronted the President was
Speaker 5: just over the top. He either needs to resign and
Speaker 5: send somebody over that we can do business with, or
Speaker 5: he needs to change.
Speaker 4: That's pretty strong. And the White House was well, and
Speaker 4: if you don't know how this played out. Afterwards, Zolensky
Speaker 4: wanted to hang around and say, well, let's get back together,
Speaker 4: let me let me talk to the president, let's fix
Speaker 4: this or whatever. Mark Rubia said, no, President wants you
Speaker 4: to go.
Speaker 2: He got to go.
Speaker 4: So he went out and got in his car and
Speaker 4: drove away, and the White House said, we need an
Speaker 4: apology before we're even going to start talking to you again.
Speaker 4: Zolensky goes on Brett Baer a couple hours later on
Speaker 4: Fox does an interview. Brett Bear gives him three chances
Speaker 4: to flat out apologize. He doesn't I understand where he's
Speaker 4: coming from.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4: What am I exactly apologizing for. I mean, you could
Speaker 4: do the old I apologize if I offended you, but
Speaker 4: that's the real apology.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Now, one of the things that really bothered me about
Speaker 1: the whole deal is, especially as we were discussing earlier,
Speaker 1: given the language barrier and Zelinsky's English is good, but
Speaker 1: it's not like it lacks the subtleties of understanding of
Speaker 1: a native speaker. And one of the reasons you always
Speaker 1: keep your cool is because there are aspects of what's
Speaker 1: happening that you might not be fully aware of at
Speaker 1: the time, and you can always burn bridges, as they say,
Speaker 1: if it's a good idea to choose somebody out now,
Speaker 1: think about it for an hour, review what actually happened
Speaker 1: and why it might have happened. Then if the chewing
Speaker 1: out needs to happen, do it. But that's hot in
Speaker 1: the moment, I think is a terrible idea.
Speaker 4: Well, it's always a terrible idea. But if you could
Speaker 4: have stayed cool in that setting, you're a different beast
Speaker 4: than ninety nine point nine percent is Trump.
Speaker 1: Or Zelensky is Zelinsky right right, I'm talking about Trump
Speaker 1: in dvance.
Speaker 2: You didn't have to jump ugly, Although again the.
Speaker 1: Repeated disagreement and lecturing on camera is not a facet
Speaker 1: of those grip and grin things.
Speaker 2: So there's plenty of fault on both sides.
Speaker 1: What is and the thing that bothers me about part
Speaker 1: of trump World right now is that because they got
Speaker 1: into a spat and everybody lost their head a little bit,
Speaker 1: therefore he's a demon who must be purged from mankind,
Speaker 1: when in fact, the United States and its priorities and
Speaker 1: needs have not changed in Nyota just because they had
Speaker 1: a little spat, And if what you thought changed fundamentally,
Speaker 1: that seems strange to me. People get hot and exchange
Speaker 1: words all the time. That doesn't change your interests.
Speaker 4: So Howard Luttnick, who we were praising last week, was
Speaker 4: just on Fox and I just saw it up on
Speaker 4: the TV says, Trump's going to beat down both sides.
Speaker 4: That's the way he does deals and brings them together.
Speaker 4: It's going to beat down Zelensky, He's going to beat
Speaker 4: down Putin. Well, I haven't seen any of the beating
Speaker 4: down Putin part happening.
Speaker 2: Yet. We got more on the way.
Speaker 6: A couple of a Tatar Airlines flight was forced to
Speaker 6: sit next to a dead body after the woman next
Speaker 6: to him passed away mid flight. On the bright side,
Speaker 6: at least she finally stopped coughing.
Speaker 2: I thought that was funny. That is very funny, darkly amusing.
Speaker 4: Have you seen the fake ad from Saturday Night Live
Speaker 4: with Shane gillis a couple of beers? My doctors recommends
Speaker 4: a couple of beers at a party, don't know what
Speaker 4: who to talk to? Feeling kind of bored. My doctor
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Speaker 4: it's very funny. I do not like my interpurseonent that
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't like the gel. My armpits feel wet all
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm putting too much. I feel like I can
Speaker 4: smell it too much. I just my armpits feel wet.
Speaker 1: Aggressive scent over application issue. Obviously, Michael will need you
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Speaker 4: So here's something I probably shouldn't have done, but I did.
Speaker 4: I was feeling really I was sick of last week.
Speaker 4: I worked from home Tuesday through Friday, and then Friday
Speaker 4: was feeling worse than ever, and I was constantly wondering
Speaker 4: throughout you know, do I have something that's going to
Speaker 4: go away on its own, a virus, or do I
Speaker 4: have something that's turned into something that I'm gonna need
Speaker 4: antibiotics for to get rid of. Several times in my
Speaker 4: life I have waited way too long for something to
Speaker 4: go away and been like practically unable to walk to
Speaker 4: go to the doctor's office to get in to get
Speaker 4: an antibiotic, and then like it seems like within hours,
Speaker 4: I feel better, And I think when I do that earlier.
Speaker 4: Of course, we all know the problem, as we've talked
Speaker 4: about many times on the radio over the years, that
Speaker 4: people way over use antibiotics for viruses that are going
Speaker 4: to go away on their own, and we're going to
Speaker 4: breed a super bug that kills off all of humankind.
Speaker 1: Well summarized, yes, ninety five percent of the population does
Speaker 1: the opposite of what you did.
Speaker 2: As I did on Friday.
Speaker 4: So I was feeling so horrible on Friday, I went
Speaker 4: I took an antabotic just on my own. I have
Speaker 4: extra antabotics around the house from various situations my kids
Speaker 4: have been in and I'm taking an antabotic. I feel
Speaker 4: so horrible, And I took the dose you're supposed to take,
Speaker 4: and the next day I felt way better, way better.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: Of course, there's no way of knowing if the antabiotic
Speaker 4: did it, and they usually work really fast in my experience,
Speaker 4: or if I just, you know, had turned the corner
Speaker 4: on my virus.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 4: So I contacted a doctor friend of mine, not my doctor,
Speaker 4: because I wouldn't want to tell my doctor that I
Speaker 4: went rogue on him. I contacted a doctor that I know.
Speaker 4: He's a retired doctor, and I said, well, should I
Speaker 4: stop it at this point since I feel better?
Speaker 2: Or should I keep going?
Speaker 4: And he said, well, at this point, I think you
Speaker 4: should go ahead and finish the antibotic. And I said,
Speaker 4: what about the whole breeding a superbug that kills off mankind?
Speaker 4: He said, You're not going to be responsible for that
Speaker 4: if you finish this anabatic, which is a pretty good point.
Speaker 1: Right, and finishing it, but finishing it is important. Stopping
Speaker 1: it is the worst thing you can possibly do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah, uh, I might have just had a
Speaker 4: cold that no antibotics ever going to have any effect
Speaker 4: on whatsoever. So right, Yeah, I probably shouldn't have just
Speaker 4: been taking random medications on my own. But oh I
Speaker 4: know is I felt better on.
Speaker 1: Saturday, so well, not completely random. Oh that reminds me.
Speaker 1: There are a couple of significant headlines they're not getting
Speaker 1: any attention because we're yelling about other things these days.
Speaker 1: A couple of headlines having to do with bat viruses.
Speaker 1: Perhaps you recall the pandemic of a few years past.
Speaker 1: It was fairly disruptive. They're coming up next. Hout, there's
Speaker 1: some new ones voting around.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, okaw, that's one of the stories. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: also want to talk about this.
Speaker 1: And you'll never guess who's back in business beefing them
Speaker 1: up and studying them. China, not only China, Sir a
Speaker 1: particular little city in China.
Speaker 4: And for the first time ever, one of the two
Speaker 4: major parties majority does not like Israel. First time it's
Speaker 4: ever happened. In Gallup polling, the Democrats sixty unfavorable view
Speaker 4: of Israel. First time that's ever happened with the major party.
Speaker 4: Can dig into that, among other things, Stay with us,
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