1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. He is Wes Hogkowitz. We're coming 3 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: to you here from our studios at lambeau Field and West. 4 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: It is Tuesday. The Packers Vikings game is in the 5 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: rear view mirror, but it hasn't quite disappeared yet. Because 6 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: for anybody who thought that the NFL might come out 7 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: and say, well, you know that play by Clay Matthews, 8 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: that wasn't exactly what we had in mind in terms 9 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: of roughing the passer, well it turns out it's exactly 10 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: what the NFL had in mind for roughing the pastor 11 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: because that play as well as the one by Eric 12 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: they hit by Eric kendricks On Aaron Rodgers is at 13 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: the end of the first half, which was just as questionable, 14 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: are both being used now by the NFL is examples 15 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: on tape that they are distributing to teams around the 16 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: league to say this is what you are not supposed 17 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: to do when you hit the quarterback. I don't know 18 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: about you, but I was floored when I saw that. Yeah, um, 19 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: this reminds me of the old line my dad used 20 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: to tell me when I was a kid, which was 21 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: don't confuse the confused. It was really funny. Mike, you 22 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: and I both obviously do the inbox. I I referenced 23 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: it frequently. I don't know what it was like for 24 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: vic in two thousand and twelve after the fail Mary, 25 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: but I mean the amount of comments, in questions and 26 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 1: and toat takes that people have been submitting, it's blown 27 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: me away. I guess that I probably got through maybe 28 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: a quarter of the total submissions for the for the 29 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: addition that we did on Tuesday morning. Yeah, the inboxes overflowing, 30 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: and the only understandably so. Yeah. The only thing that 31 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: I keep coming back to is, uh, how the NFL 32 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: has such a stringent view of this Al River n 33 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: the league office, what they believe is roughing the passer. 34 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: But then you have Dean Blandino, who I think you 35 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: would admit was probably the first of the I don't 36 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: want to call him celebrity officials, but I mean he 37 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: was the focal point of this thing for a while 38 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: when he was the head of officiating. He has an 39 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: entirely different opinion of and Mike Pereira as well, who 40 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: was who was the Dean Blandino before Blandino took over. 41 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: So my issue here isn't even with the call anymore. 42 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: It's with the fact that you have all these guys 43 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: who have held the office of the head of officiating 44 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: and there isn't a consensus, and that concerns me. Yeah, 45 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: it is, And I don't know west to me what 46 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: I have a problem with. I think in trying to 47 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: break this down into the into the simplest terms, what 48 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: I have a problem with is the way anybody who 49 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: is teaching junior high football and kids are putting on 50 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: pads for the same time. If you are coaching how 51 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: to tackle a ball carrier, you wrap up, you have 52 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: to get their legs off the ground to make sure 53 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: you get them on the ground. Now, obviously there are 54 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: things that you can do within that that would be 55 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: considered unnecessary roughness. There are ways in which you can 56 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: rough up a player that is not necessary. But what 57 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: Eric Kendricks and Clay Matthews did, if it's not against 58 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback, it is a form tackle that is exactly 59 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: how you're supposed to teach and coach the game. So 60 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: and I understand quarterbacks need to be treated differently for 61 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: the sake of the league and the television ratings and 62 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: the competitiveness and everything else about that. But this is 63 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: going a little bit too far because because what those 64 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: guys did in that Packers Vikings game, if they do that, 65 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: if they do that against any other player carrying the football, 66 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: that is a four star a plus tackle, because that 67 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: is exactly how you're supposed to do it. Yeah. Absolutely, 68 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: And I was really pleased that Mike McCarthy had mentioned 69 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: Eric Kendricks too and his I guess unnecessary roughnest penalty 70 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers because you and I have been saying 71 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: this since game day. It wasn't just the Matthews play, 72 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: it was the Kendricks one as well. That was pretty questionable. Uh. 73 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: And and I think it creates, you know, sort of 74 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: this confusion. This Uh, it's just an air of uncertainty 75 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: that you do not want to have when you're trying 76 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: to play as fast as possible, as clean as possible, 77 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: but trying to play the game fast. The part I'm 78 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: struggling with the most right now as we get into 79 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: now week three and we move forward, is that. And 80 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: I still at this point in time, have not seen 81 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: the officiating video I'm very interested the league sends it out, 82 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: it's available to the media, I'm really interested to watch 83 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: it because this is how this isn't a precedent for 84 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: Week two. This is the precedent for the rest of 85 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: the season and how this thing is going to be called. 86 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: And uh for a for a pass rusher to be 87 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: in a spot right now that they have so many 88 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: different thoughts going through their head when traditionally it was 89 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: just getting the quarterback. Mike McCarthy put it as well 90 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: as I think you can put it. You want to 91 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: protect the quarterback. Everybody's on board with protecting the quarterback. 92 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: That's a necessity for the league, but you also don't 93 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: want to create a comparative competitive disadvantage for the defense. 94 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: And I don't know, Mike, but that kind of what 95 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: this smells like right now. Yeah, And as McCarthy suggested, 96 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: not all the variables are being taken into account here, 97 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: because you know, he even said, when when a quarterback 98 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: is throwing a ball, especially throwing a deep ball as 99 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: in the case with with Cousins on the past that 100 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: Jayer Alexander intercepted, you know, there's a lot of force, 101 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of momentum of the quarterback's body. Well, 102 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: you know he's gonna be a little lighter on his 103 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: feet at that point, and then if contact happens, yeah, 104 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: his feet are going to be off the ground. But 105 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that the guy who's hitting him is 106 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: trying to lift and drive him into the ground. That's 107 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: just that's sort of what naturally happens in the low 108 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: of these athletes doing what they do and trying to 109 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: do their jobs. So, as McCarthy said, and I agree 110 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: with you, I thought he put it very succinctly and 111 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: very clearly. There there are some variables that aren't being 112 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: considered here in the application of this, and the league 113 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: needs to get to the bottom of it and needs 114 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: to provide some kind of clarity because otherwise, and I 115 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: don't mean to take this to the absurd extreme, but otherwise, 116 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: I don't know what you tell a defensive player to 117 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: do when he gets to the quarterback, aside then from 118 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: wrap your arms around him in a bear hug, hold 119 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: him up and wait for the official to blow the whistle, 120 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: because that is the only way you can guarantee yourself 121 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: that you're not going to be called for roughing or 122 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: get a penalty or get a fine or whatever else 123 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: goes along with it. Um and and hey, these these 124 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: players hate it when those flags come out. They hate 125 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: it when their pocketbooks get hit for this kind of stuff. 126 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: And uh, I'm not sure what they're going to do 127 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: and how they go forward from here. It's very interesting 128 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: because as I went back and watched the game, there 129 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: basically is one technique right now that appears to be 130 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: fully legal, no question about it, when it comes to 131 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: sack in the quarterback. And we saw it on both 132 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: sides of the ball in that game, which is kind 133 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: of just bulldozing over the quarterback in the quarterback basically 134 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: turtling up. That's kind of what happened on the Kenny 135 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: Clark one, and it's what happened on a couple of 136 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: the Aaron Rodgers ones when he wasn't able to escape 137 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: the pocket. The sack, you know, the defender basically goes 138 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: over the top of the quarterback, the quarterback turtles up 139 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: and and that's a sack. If if it's not that, 140 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so you can't hit him in the head, 141 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: you can't hit him too low in the legs. And 142 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 1: now we're talking about the core of the body where 143 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: if you're putting your head down to attack the quarterback 144 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: in a clean fashion, moving your head to the side, 145 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: you don't know what he's doing with that football. I 146 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah. Well, and and that's what Mike Daniels 147 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: ran into because he gets right in there. He's still 148 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: got a blocker working on him, but he he gets 149 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: enough of an escape to possibly get to Cousins. But 150 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: then Cousins pump fakes with the ball and Daniels thinks 151 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: the ball is gone. I can't take this guy and 152 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: throw him on the ground because I'm going to get 153 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: a penalty and a fine and everything else. Well, then 154 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: Cousin still has the ball, avoids a ten yard loss 155 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: and gets back to the line of scrimmage. That's not 156 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: football either, That's that's not how this is supposed to go. 157 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: So I know we're gonna be talking about this, I think, 158 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: for for a long time, all season long, because they're 159 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: going to continue to be plays that come up. And 160 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: the more of these plays occur in the fourth quarter 161 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: of close games, and we all know how many close 162 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: games there are in this league, it's going to continue 163 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: to be a discussion. Well, and here's The other factor 164 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: this to the NFL is making an example of claim 165 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: Matthews this week on Friday, the NFL will announce or 166 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: reporters will start announcing fines. If Clay Matthews gets fine, 167 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: and if they're making it a point in emphasis, you 168 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: can kind of, you know, connect the dots. He has 169 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: the opportunity to appeal that fine. This thing's gonna keep 170 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: having a domino effect going forward. So I mean, it's 171 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: it's not just this game. It's gonna be week to week. Now. 172 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: I saw the other there was another game across the 173 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: league that there was a player I don't know who 174 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: it is, excuse me, but a guy got too rough 175 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: in the pastor yes, it was a player for New 176 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: Orleans and I can't think of his name at the moment, 177 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: but yeah, too roughing the passer penalty. So they basically 178 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: doubled his fine. And because he's essentially like a league 179 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: minimum salary guy, his two fines are larger than his 180 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: game check. He basically paid the NFL to play a game. 181 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: Something's not right about that. Yeah, it's nice deduction, I suppose. 182 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: But anyway, well, uh, some quick little sponsor business here West. 183 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: It is time to enter the Cousin Subs Best Seats 184 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: in the House promotion, You and a guest could win 185 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: a chance to kick back on the fifty yard line 186 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: in style. Two pairs of lucky Packers fans will be 187 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: chosen prior to each home game for this v I 188 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: P experience. 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You know, 198 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: the whole crowd in Lambeau Field kind of collectively holding 199 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: its breath. But as the game went on, he got 200 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: more and more mobile. And in fact, when you look 201 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: at say that that pass in the fourth quarter in 202 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: the end zone to Davante Adams, the one that Eric 203 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: Kendricks kind of ripped away and there was that collision 204 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: in the end zone that might have sealed the game 205 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: for the Packers. Aaron Rodgers was you know, looked pretty 206 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: close to the old Aaron Rodgers slipping out, escaping the 207 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: pocket and throwing the ball on the run. That's hopefully 208 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: a good sign here for the Packers going forward, because 209 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: he looked like a different quarterback than in the second 210 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: half against Chicago. And Mike McCarthy mentioned too, even seeing 211 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: him after taking a majority of the reps on Saturday, 212 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: he looked a lot more mobile. He said. He still 213 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: didn't have anything dialed up for him. There were no 214 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: designed quarterback runs at all, but he did look a 215 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: lot better than he did in the second half against Chicago. 216 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: I thought, Lane Taylor I wrote about this for the 217 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: website on Monday night, and we wrote about it on 218 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: Inbox on Tuesday morning. Tailor at such a great point 219 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: when he was talking to the media on Monday and 220 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: saying there was a lot of there was a big 221 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: benefit to him, you know, squirming out and getting that 222 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: seven yard pick up for the first down on third down, 223 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: because that showed the vikings early on that you at 224 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: least had to account for him. Yeah, maybe he won't 225 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: be extending plays like he usually does. But you also 226 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: can't just think, Okay, well, we don't need a spy 227 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: on him. You started to see the spy steak back 228 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: up there again. It kept them a little bit more honest, 229 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: and that opened things up a little bit more for 230 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: Rogers in the passing game. His number one weapon, Mike 231 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: is the fact that you don't know what he's gonna 232 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: do on a give him play. He can make an 233 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: adjustment at the line of scrimmage once the play develops. 234 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: If things break down, he can make plays on the 235 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: scrambled trill. So having his full arsenal at least being 236 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: able to showcase some of it. I think that was 237 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: big for this Vikings game. And barring any setbacks with 238 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: Washington Buffalo, every team that comes up on the schedule 239 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: there gonna see that tape and they're gonna have to 240 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: understand that. Okay, you know, Aaron Rodgers, while he maybe 241 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: not is, he's still Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, He's not a 242 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: statue back there in the pocket. And I agree with you. 243 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: I agree with Lane Taylor that that was a factor 244 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: in the game. There's no there's no question about it. 245 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: And we'll see Aaron Rodgers. He normally talks to the 246 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: media on Wednesdays during the week, so tomorrow when we 247 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: hear from him, we will see because I think the 248 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: first question, or unless people are going to ask about 249 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: the roughing, the path and stuff, but one of the 250 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: first questions he will get, I think is, Okay, it's Wednesday. 251 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: How do you feel this Wednesday compared to last Wednesday 252 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: when you're three days removed from the game. Because if 253 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: he's feeling, if he's feeling better week to week, as 254 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: as he goes through this, we know that will be 255 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: a positive sign for him to to get through this 256 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: and and you know, maybe whatever after getting the week 257 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: off at the bye in the middle of October, you know, 258 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: then maybe the real old Aaron Rodgers will be will 259 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: be back to full strength after that. We'll see. Yeah, 260 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: we have to see. And obviously things can change week 261 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: to week. Certainly the Packers are hoping that he can 262 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: continue to make progress throughout this whole process and not 263 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: have any setbacks. But as Lane Taylor also mentioned, you know, 264 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: he's the kind of guy that he's he doesn't throw 265 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: caution to the wind. I mean, he knows how to 266 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: play football, and he knows how to play it one way, 267 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: and that's to win and put everything he has on 268 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: the field. It was a commendable performance. I know, Geronimo Allison, 269 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: a number of guys really, you know, praised him for 270 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: for what he put out on the field. Both Taylor 271 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: and McCarthy called him a warrior in separate separate interviews. 272 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: So it is amazing, I think when you look at 273 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: what he put himself through in sixteen, in fourteen with 274 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: the lower body injuries, the soft tissue injuries last year, 275 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: coming back on the early side of that timeline with 276 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: the shoulder, Rogers wants to do what he has to 277 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: do to win, and this is another example of it. Yeah. Well, 278 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: we promised on yesterday's show because we did not really 279 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: get to our glance around the league with everything that 280 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: had happened in that nine tie against the Vikings. But 281 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: we did touch on the fact that only two teams 282 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: in the NFC right now at two and no after 283 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: two games, the Los Angeles Rams, a playoff team from 284 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: a year ago defending division champions in the NFC West, 285 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: and then the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with the Harvard grad 286 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick lighting things up. I think right now, based statistically, 287 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: if you were to say, okay, who is the m 288 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: v P of the NFL through the first two weeks 289 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: would be a toss up between Patrick Mahomes from Kansas 290 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: City and Ryan Fitzpatrick, the quarterback from the Buccaneers. And 291 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if before the regular season started, if 292 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: anybody thought those two would be in the m v 293 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: P conversation here in the middle of September, you don't know. 294 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean, no, nobody thought that. I got a kick 295 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: out of one thing I saw on social media. They 296 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: did a Venn diagram of who's going to be the 297 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: m v P, and it was Ryan fits and then Patrick, 298 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: and then they had the two circles going over each 299 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: other and then it merging into Patrick Mahomes. It is amazing. 300 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: It's it's amazing what Mahomes has done, how efficient he's been. 301 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: I think he has what a one forty three passer 302 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: rating right now. It's something for Kansas City and in Fitzpatrick. 303 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Fitzpatrick. This isn't a shocker because 304 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: he's had big games that Buffalo Bills with Chan Gailey 305 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: there the late two thousands, early two thousand tens. They 306 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: had some potent offenses, but turnovers were an issue. I 307 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be the big thing for Fitzpatrick is 308 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: being able to limit those because everybody knows he can 309 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: throw the football. He has a heck of an arm. 310 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: He's as smart as they come at the position. So 311 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: to have them be able to have this success and 312 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: beat the defending Super Bowl champions, obviously, it puts them 313 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: in the driver's seat right now. And what has always 314 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: been a very competitive NFC South, Yeah, well, nobody in 315 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: the NFC North is two and oh Packers and Vikings 316 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: at one oh and one. We see the Chicago Bears 317 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: move up to one and one with their Monday night 318 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: victory over the Seattle Seahawks. Seattle takes another one on 319 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: the chin, they fall to oh and two, and um 320 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: kind of West's the same old story we've been talking 321 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: about with Seattle for the last few years now, and 322 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: that is they have not been able to fix that 323 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: offensive line and uh, and it's a it's a grab 324 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: bag back there with Russell Wilson as to whether he 325 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: has will have any time to throw, whether he can 326 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: get away and make plays on the run and all that. 327 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: The Bears defense, you know, kind of swallowed him up 328 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: and wasn't until the fourth quarter. You know, Wilson got 329 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: some things going and and then in the in the 330 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: desperation to come back, he throws a pick six that 331 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: that seals the game for Chicago's defense. Yeah, you can 332 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: just see Russell Wilson is the NFL quarterback has to 333 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: lift his team. It comes with the job description. But 334 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: it just seems like every year we're seeing Wilson have 335 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: to shoulder a little bit more. Uh. And and you've 336 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: seen a little bit of an erosion of the defense. Uh. 337 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: They're running game in the post Marshawn Lynch era has 338 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: not really been overly effective. Uh And certainly trying to, 339 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: you know, get their weapons figured out there. They put 340 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: a big investment into Lockett Tyler Lockett this offseason, trying 341 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: to find ways to integrate him into the offense. But 342 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: ultimately it is about the protection and it is about 343 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: giving Russell Wilson the time he needs a throw. Because 344 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: he is a very unique quarterback. It makes a unique 345 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: requirement of that offensive front. They've not been able to 346 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: do it. Credit to the Chicago Bears, though. Six sacks 347 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: for Vic Fangio's defense a lot of pressure on Wilson. 348 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: We both know how difficult he is the sack getting 349 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: six sacks against him, that's not an easy accomplishment. And 350 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: the number one thought I that went through my head 351 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: as I saw some of the clips of this game 352 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: was that I still, at the end of the day, 353 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,239 Speaker 1: think the Packers did the right thing for themselves as 354 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: an organization. I think the Bears and Ryan Pace did 355 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: the best made the best decision possible for their team. 356 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: I think the outlier right now is the Raiders and 357 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: seeing you know, when you have a talent that that's 358 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: that unique, that good, that's it's tough to give those 359 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: up in the prime of their career. They did that, 360 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: and now they're going to have to deal with the 361 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: after effects of it. They're all in two now going 362 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: into week three. Yeah, and the rest of the rest 363 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: of the NFC North is going to have to deal 364 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: with Khalil Mack twice a year now. The Packers. I 365 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: have one of those two out of the way. But 366 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: I'll say this about the Bears, what what I'm curious 367 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: to see because they're obviously feeling their way with Matt 368 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: Naggie's off fense, a lot of the misdirection at sometimes 369 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: it looks like a college offense. And I don't mean 370 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: that as an insult. I'm saying it looks like just 371 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: just all the all the trickery in some ways, with 372 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: the motion and the misdirection and the read options stuff 373 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: and all that it it looks like a college offense 374 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: out there. What I'm wondering is at what point are 375 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: they gonna cut mits Rubisky loose and let him attack 376 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: down the field. Because what I've seen from the Bears offense, 377 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: and I realized it's only two games and they're making 378 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: their way here with the new coaching staff in the 379 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: new offense, but you can't play offense like that for 380 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: sixteen games in the NFL and expect to succeed because 381 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: you have to make plays down the field. Trabinsky hasn't 382 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: done it yet, and I'm not saying he can't um 383 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: but whether or not he does, I think is what's 384 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: going to define Chicago's offense as this season goes along. Yeah, 385 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 1: I thought last year they were pretty conservative with him. 386 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: He had six point six yards per completion. This year 387 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: it's five point four, So it's actually gone down in 388 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: the first two weeks of this season. I think there's 389 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: a delicate Allan's there, especially when you play a quarterback. 390 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: Early you heard Patrick Mahomes talk about what he felt 391 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: the benefit was. I know John Dorsey was very stringent 392 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: proponent of it, letting a young quarterback sit uh and 393 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a right or wrong way. But 394 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: Mahomes said, I mean how much he learned from watching 395 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: Alex Smith on the top level quarterback in this league 396 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: that's done it for a long time, and now jumping 397 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: into the driver's seat as opposed to Trubisky where you 398 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: do have the training wheels off at first, but the 399 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: question becomes, well when do you take them off? Because 400 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: they wanted they wanted to sit Trubisky, but Mike Glennon 401 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: didn't didn't get the job done, and they they had 402 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: to pull the plug on it and throw them in there. 403 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: So their plan just didn't work out the way they want. 404 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: So the question is now is is how do you 405 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: approach this Because at the end of the day, when 406 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: you take a quarterback, when you trade up to take 407 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,959 Speaker 1: a quarterback like they did with Rubinsky, you're taking him 408 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: because of his playmaking ability. And I think right now 409 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: They've been very safe with him and certainly was a 410 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: game plan that allowed them to beat Seattle. But as 411 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: you said, over the course of a sixteen game regular season, 412 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: if you have a young quarterback that you believe in, 413 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: at some point you have to kind of let, you know, 414 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: loosen the reins a little bit. Yeah, And just to 415 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: touch on the Detroit Lions in the NFC North before 416 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: we go, they are owing two for them, a rough 417 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: start under new head coach Matt Patricia. And we'll be 418 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: talking about the Lions soon enough here with the Packers 419 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: heading to Detroit in a few weeks. But um, I'll 420 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: just say this. I watched the highlights, the full extended 421 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: highlights on NFL dot Com of the Lions game at 422 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: San Francisco this uh this past weekend, and it didn't 423 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: look good for a while if the Lions were down 424 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: thirty in the fourth quarter. But I tell you what, 425 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford in the fourth quarter, he just he just 426 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: becomes a different player. He brought those guys back, He 427 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: got two touchdowns. They were at thirty to twenty seven. 428 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: The defense gets a huge interception that they run back 429 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: all the way into the red zone in the last 430 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: two minutes where it's looking like they're at least going 431 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: to tie, if not win the game, but the interception 432 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: gets called back on a defensive holding penalty. Folks in 433 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: Detroit just as upset about the officiating as as people 434 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: in Green Bay this week. So I just throw that 435 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: out there because the Detroit Lions were on the verge 436 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: of a potentially season turning type of comeback on the 437 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: road against a pretty decent San Francisco team and it 438 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: and it didn't work out. But I guess my point is, 439 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: don't let that O and two record fool you. I 440 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: know they look bad in Week one, but they were 441 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 1: a different team in Week two. Know they were, and 442 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: I think the San Francisco forty niners are a different 443 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: team going into this season. They weren't the pushovers that 444 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: they were throughout most of last year before and even 445 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: the year before that, you know, before the Jimmy Garoppolo 446 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: era started. The thing about the Lions is there's pieces there. 447 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: You can see Carrie on Johnson has a lot of talent. 448 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: At what point do they kind of just dedicate to 449 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: him as the running back? You know, they've been really 450 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: careful with him the first couple of weeks. I do 451 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: believe he is the guy to kind of break that 452 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: hundred yard rushing mark that I think they have in 453 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: a class whatever years. Uh and and certainly Matthew Stafford 454 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: is one of the top of the best in the 455 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 1: league when it comes to quarterback. My biggest question is 456 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: do they have enough you know, guys on defense to 457 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: take them where they need to go, Because we've seen 458 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: in this post Kelvin Johnson era what ever can do 459 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: with this offense. He just needs a little help. And 460 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: in the times in which they've faltered, it's just not 461 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: being able to get enough of those auxiliary pieces to 462 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: complement what he's doing. In they don't have the defensive 463 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: front that they had a handful of years ago. The 464 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: and Dominquan Sioux and those guys that were really the 465 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: core of of that defense they're gone and Matt Patricia's 466 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: job is to is to put it back together, um 467 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: and and and get them back to where they need 468 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: to be defensively to compete in the NFC North. But 469 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: with that, we're going to call it a wrap on 470 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: this edition of Packers Unscripted. 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