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Speaker 1: Jervonte Tank Davis. He's won titles in three way classes.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I'm fully expecting, by the way, fan Man

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Speaker 3: Where's the Lota.

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Speaker 4: We have the audio here.

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Speaker 3: If you didn't see this, this is this week you

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Speaker 4: They asked him for one to fight MMA. Here's what he.

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Speaker 5: Said, But who's gonna people.

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Speaker 1: Like you can't kick me in the faith?

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Speaker 5: Like can you kick him in the face?

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Speaker 5: You just have to choose someone that's maybe like not

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Speaker 3: Nelson used to describe himself as like a kung fu fighter.

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Speaker 3: I want someone to come around and be like I'm

435
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Speaker 3: a hood wrestler.

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Speaker 2: You're went out early UFC.

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Speaker 1: The Green car girls would have the discipline up on

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Speaker 1: the car to be like, yeah, this fighter fights in

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Speaker 1: Joe sand you know, here.

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Speaker 3: We go, yeah hood wrestling. I mean he's from Baltimore,

441
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Speaker 3: you know, shouts the Purple Camo Nation. You know they're

442
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Speaker 3: they're a troubled bunch.

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Speaker 1: Like I do. Want to see. By the way, if this,

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Speaker 1: if this run for Javonte in terms of like packing

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Speaker 1: arenas continues, He's done it all over the East Coast.

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Speaker 1: He's done it before in California in the in the

447
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Speaker 1: Tennis theater, had a lot of celebrity turnout there in Carson, California.

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Speaker 2: And now he's in the big arena at Staples.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out Sunday night, once again only on Showtime

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Speaker 1: pay per view.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you will have a whole last thing, last thing,

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Speaker 3: last thing. We will have some special programming for that

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Speaker 3: on Sunday, not Saturday night. Remember Gervontae Davis. Sunday, Sunday Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, get that right, please, Okay, Sunday's coming. All right, MMA, fans,

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Speaker 1: you know why you're here, and that's to talk delatory

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Speaker 1: in UFC. So topic number two from Las Vegas at

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Speaker 1: the Apex. Very interesting UFC on ESPN thirty one, Fight Night,

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Speaker 1: car Who the hell is still calling at ESPN on

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Speaker 1: UFC on ESPN thirty one. If you're still in that,

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Speaker 1: just stop it? Okay, it's UFC Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Bandom weights in the main event. We hit the storylines

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Speaker 1: this week, and this is a hell of a great matchup.

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Speaker 1: Red hot thirty four year old Rob Font representing Massachusetts,

465
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Speaker 1: going to step up fresh off a nice string of

466
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Speaker 1: victories reich Garbrandt and the likes against the King of Rio,

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Speaker 1: the former featherweight champion Jose Aldo Luke.

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Speaker 2: The betting odds have had this very close all week.

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Speaker 1: I believe as we stand right now, Rob Font with

470
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Speaker 1: Caesar Sportsbook minus one forty, Jose Aldo plus one, twenty

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Speaker 1: exes and O's wise Luke does this Rob in Rob

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Speaker 1: Font's chances here in a five round fight, just his

473
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Speaker 1: second in his history, does it live and die Behind

474
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Speaker 1: that great jab that he offers.

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Speaker 4: It certainly does the job.

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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of analysts pre fight have sort

477
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Speaker 3: of pointed out, you know, if Rob Font can't get

478
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Speaker 3: the jab going, obviously he's got a ton of other abilities,

479
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 3: but he has developed a game where everything really lives

480
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Speaker 3: behind that. Defensively, he's able to keep opponents off of him.

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Speaker 3: He can set a rhythm behind his jab. He's got

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Speaker 3: a lot of other obviously great combinations behind his jab.

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Speaker 3: You know, he can he can a pressure behind it,

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Speaker 3: he can retreat behind it. I mean, it's just it

485
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Speaker 3: is the centerpiece of his offense, which has become as

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Speaker 3: you see now. Now he has the win over Cody

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Speaker 3: Garbrandt and he's facing off here against Jose Aldo quite formidable.

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Speaker 3: It is interesting. There was an article I retweeted it

489
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Speaker 3: written by Richard Mann. Richard Mann works for fight Metric.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the guys who is behind the team there.

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Speaker 3: He always looks at some of the inside stats ahead

492
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Speaker 3: of time, and what he had shared with something pretty interesting,

493
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Speaker 3: which is when opponents land on Jose Aldo more than

494
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Speaker 3: five strikes per minute, he's never won. He loses all

495
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Speaker 3: of those bouts, and when he keeps his opponents under that,

496
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Speaker 3: he is twenty in one. The one that he lost

497
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Speaker 3: was the Marlon Marise fight, which a lot of people

498
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Speaker 3: think he actually won. So you can almost make a

499
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Speaker 3: case that when they're under five, he's undefeated. When they're

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Speaker 3: over five, he can't win. The interesting part about Rob

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Speaker 3: Font is he has a high degree of landing. What

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Speaker 3: does he land per minute? On average? Five point five

503
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Speaker 3: to eight strikes per minute. Dude, that's significant strikes. Anyway,

504
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Speaker 3: that is exactly the kind of makeup that, at least

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Speaker 3: in theory, could give Jose Aldos some problem. So it's

506
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Speaker 3: not merely that the job has to get going, although

507
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Speaker 3: that certainly is part of it. And they're both orthodox,

508
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Speaker 3: so you wonder exactly what he might do to shut

509
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Speaker 3: down the job there. But in any case, it's the volume,

510
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Speaker 3: the volume from Rob Font. If you see Rob Font

511
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Speaker 3: like for example, like one of the ways where he

512
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Speaker 3: was not able to get off was when he was

513
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Speaker 3: really retreating under the power of John Lineker.

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Speaker 4: Now Rob Font went.

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Speaker 3: The distance in that fight because he is a very

516
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Speaker 3: capable defensive fighter when he needs to be. But the

517
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Speaker 3: power that came back, the power counter striking from John Lineker,

518
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Speaker 3: was so overwhelming it made it hard for Rob Font

519
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Speaker 3: to get going. Jose Aldo's modus apparandi here has got

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Speaker 3: to be to shut down the JAB, yes, but to

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Speaker 3: limit what Rob Font can reasonably throw behind it or

522
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Speaker 3: in overall totality, because if he can't get that going,

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Speaker 3: jose Aldo can then start cooking himself.

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Speaker 4: Now, how do you do that?

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Speaker 3: You could do it the Peter jonstyle where he got

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Speaker 3: in South Paul and then the lead hand was shutting

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Speaker 3: down the jab of Aldo and he was going over

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Speaker 3: the top of it and did actually a fair amount

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Speaker 3: of body work in that fight. And then that high

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Speaker 3: low inside outside thing kind of gave him a lot

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Speaker 3: of trouble.

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Speaker 4: Or you can do what Max Holloway did.

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Speaker 3: Which was of course switching stances, but then turning jose

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Speaker 3: Aldo right kind of always having him in motion. He

535
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Speaker 3: wants to stand there in front of you and not

536
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Speaker 3: move and then trade counters or shots or combinations because

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Speaker 3: he's got great hand speed. He can slip and throw

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Speaker 3: at the same time.

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Speaker 4: Like he's really really good there.

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Speaker 3: So Max Holloway turned him so he could never quite

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Speaker 3: set in place. And actually, by the way, both fights

542
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Speaker 3: turned him this direction one way, turned him that direction

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Speaker 3: in the subsequent fight, and then put all different kinds

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Speaker 3: of weapons behind it. But you get the idea. There's

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Speaker 3: a lot of different ways they could explore this. But

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Speaker 3: what you're looking for in this matchup, pay attention to

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Speaker 3: the volume of Rob Font. If it's kind of low

548
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Speaker 3: or you know, in the threes or whatever, probably not

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Speaker 3: a fight he can win. But if he's moving and

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Speaker 3: that jab is sticking, Jose Aldo might be in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Rob thought the last man to defeat current fellowt Orbanamley

552
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Speaker 1: champion Sergio Pettis, who has a huge fight we'll get

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Speaker 1: into shortly tonight. Rob Font's been on a wrong luke

554
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Speaker 1: and this division is so stacked. It's the deepest in

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Speaker 1: the sport today globally and within the UFC, And I

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Speaker 1: don't think the winner of this gets a title shot.

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Speaker 1: But this is number four found against number five all though,

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Speaker 1: so there's no question that big time stakes are in play.

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Speaker 1: So for me, the key question of what this fight

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Speaker 1: will ultimately answer, and I'm interested to hear your your

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Speaker 1: your response is if Rob Font wins, it won't get

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Speaker 1: maybe a title shot because you're gonna have to rematch

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Speaker 1: Yan and Sterling.

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Speaker 2: You've got TJ.

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Speaker 1: Dillashaw, who's more or less Do do you think this

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Speaker 1: though would answer that question? Is Rob Font truly one

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Speaker 1: of the upper room elites at this weight class. I

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Speaker 1: think people certainly have great respect for his game. That

569
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Speaker 1: four fight winning streak has been has been fantastic. But Luke,

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Speaker 1: I think if you talk.

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Speaker 2: To a lot of non.

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Speaker 1: Hardcourse loo go oh yeah, I know Rob Foni's good,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know if he's great. If he beats

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Speaker 1: Jose Aldough for his fifth straight, he's already ranked number four.

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Speaker 1: Whether he's great or not, he's gonna be put into

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Speaker 1: the into nothing of great matchups. Moving on, when you

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Speaker 1: look at Rob Font's game, do you see greatness?

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Speaker 3: Well, here's what I can tell you I've seen. I mean,

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Speaker 3: to your point, this would be his clearly his toughest

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Speaker 3: test today, the most important fight today. The Garbrant won

581
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Speaker 3: before that served as that role previously, and then he

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Speaker 3: passed that test with flying colors. So here we are

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Speaker 3: now against Aldo. Anybody who watches tape on Rob Font

584
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Speaker 3: will tell you even from his earliest days in the UFC,

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Speaker 3: he stood out a little bit one because he had

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Speaker 3: a jab at a time when a lot of fighters,

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Speaker 3: frankly didn't. He's always been a guy who's jab first,

588
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Speaker 3: jab heavy, and build stuff behind it. That's been a

589
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,719
Speaker 3: piece in a lot of mma fighters games that's been missing.

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00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: He will stand out for that reason. The other reason

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Speaker 3: he stood out is he has always been very technical.

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Speaker 3: I like watching technical fighters fight man. I like what

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Speaker 3: they can bring to the game, and even when they're overmatched,

594
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Speaker 3: like he was in the case of Lineker at that time,

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Speaker 3: he kept himself safe. He didn't get run over, he

596
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Speaker 3: didn't get blown out. He got good experience there, so

597
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 3: you've always had. You can't watch tape on Rob Font

598
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Speaker 3: and not have respect for his coaches, for what he's

599
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: turned in and the kind of sort of beautiful technique

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00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 3: that he brings to life. But to your point, some

601
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: of those wins against the key guys were kind of

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Speaker 3: missing up until recently. The reason why the Aldo fight

603
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 3: to me is so different than the Garbrandt fight is that, yes,

604
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 3: obviously Rob Font is a very, very very talented guy

605
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 3: and has earned this spot, no doubt about it. But

606
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Speaker 3: beating Cody Garbrandt, who I think now is going down

607
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 3: to flyweight and has kind of had some mixed results

608
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 3: of late, he beat a quality fighter. I don't want

609
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 3: to take it away from him, but I think even

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00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: he and his team would tell you Jose Aldo is

611
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: another level Jose Aldo went down to bantamweight and the

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Speaker 3: Maris fight whatever, throw it out as a matter. He's

613
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Speaker 3: beaten everyone basically except who like Peter Jan right, and

614
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: he gave Yan some trouble. Okay, you can't beat jan fine,

615
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 3: but dude, he is beating very good bantam weights down there.

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Speaker 3: He is as battle tested and tried and true as

617
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Speaker 3: they come. If you beat Jose Aldo cleanly, right, the

618
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 3: judges didn't fuck it up or it wasn't a referee issue,

619
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Speaker 3: like you just beat him whatever, that means. They cannot

620
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 3: take that away from you. They cannot undercut it. They

621
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Speaker 3: can say what they want. Like you know, Jose's a

622
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: little bit past it. He is a little bit past

623
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Speaker 3: it in terms of his peak. He's not past it

624
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 3: in terms of beating good elite fighters. He's quite in

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00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 3: the thick of it right there. This is a meaningful

626
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 3: win in every way. If he gets this one, you

627
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: cannot deny Rob font any longer. He will have firmly,

628
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: firmly arrived.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Whether you think his game is truly great or not,

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Speaker 1: the results have been great, and this would be the

631
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: biggest one that you mentioned. Let's not talk about Jose

632
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: Aldo's outlook and chances in this fight. Oddsmaker's rightfully giving

633
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: him credit for the experience for that recent run, the

634
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: two wins you mentioned where look, I mean, he's a

635
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: destroyer at this way class. I love the way his

636
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: body is able to cut down him. There's no body fed.

637
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: He comes out there looking to land hard and powerful strikes.

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00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: He's thirty five, though, but he's got extreme experience going

639
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: five rounds, which will be needed in this main event

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Speaker 1: if it gets that far. Luke, the story on Aldough,

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00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: you know the last few years has been if he

642
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: could be the Joe of old and attack those legs.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's a different type of fighter.

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Speaker 1: How much do you see that as a potential strategy

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00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: against font who who's got some quickness. I don't know

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00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: if he's faster necessarily than all though, but a technical guy,

647
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: a mover. If Jose can can start chopping away on him,

648
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: that's got to be a big part of him sloaning

649
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: him down, because then Jose can be closer and set

650
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: you up for those combinations and which is his trademark

651
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: with the boxing.

652
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: No doubt about it, dude. Like the leg kicks would

653
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 3: be a really important thing here. But he has, you know,

654
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: dropped off a cliff in terms of how he uses them.

655
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 3: He's become much more of a boxing heavy fighter himself.

656
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: And people have theorized about it. Is it strategy, is

657
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: it age, Is it some kind of injury, or you know,

658
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: it just doesn't want to do it anymore. Probably a

659
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: combination of all of them. But again Richard Mann's article

660
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: had pointed out, I mean, they used to be like

661
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: twenty one percent.

662
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 4: Of his striking offense.

663
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 3: It's something like less than nine percent.

664
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 4: Now.

665
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: There's a lot of ways to take away the jab.

666
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: You can slip off the jab encounter, you can leg

667
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: kick it, you can I mean, there's different stances from

668
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 3: which you can kick inside and outside. There's just a

669
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: lot you can do. I don't know if he needs

670
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 3: to go to the leg kick in in the most

671
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: pronounced way which you're talking about, like leg kick, or

672
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: it's all else. I think Jose Aldo's got a lot

673
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: of ability to find answers to it.

674
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 4: But I would say that like.

675
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: There's a version of this fight where he doesn't do

676
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 3: enough of it and maybe costs himself in close rounds.

677
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: That could be worrisome, But I don't think he needs

678
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: to go back to what he did in WEC where

679
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: it was like one of every five strikes with one

680
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 3: of these things.

681
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 2: No, that's fair, and by the way, to do that,

682
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: it takes a toll. It's on your gas tank.

683
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: And we'd seen jose Avin in his prime and Peak

684
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: sometimes fade a little bit at the end.

685
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: We remember the Mark Comenic fifth round.

686
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: He faded against Peter Yon two in the fourth.

687
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely the spirit of the question, though, essentially implies, do

688
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: you think if Aldose tries to point fight Rob Font,

689
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: it's the wrong fighter to do that? Considering where Aldo

690
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: is in his career, fonts technical ability. I need Josie,

691
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: although whether it comes from Lake kicks or not, to

692
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,239
Speaker 1: come out early and and do damage. And you know

693
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: that sometimes also contects in older power fighters gas tank

694
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: toward the end, you think that's gonna be all those

695
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: strategy because I don't want to see him try to

696
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: point fight Font. I want to see him say, Okay,

697
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: Rob Font, you've had a good run, but you're not

698
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: on my level. And I'm gonna show you why I'm

699
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: coming out. I'm not reckless, but I'm coming out guns blazing.

700
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 3: I think what he is probably gonna try and do

701
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: is a smarter, more modern version of what Lineker did.

702
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: Doue Lineker landed on Rob Font, where Rob was like,

703
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 3: you know, eyeballys got like saucers. And again, Rob is

704
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: more experienced and he is certainly you know, understands the

705
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: game and has much improved since then. It's not he's

706
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 3: not bringing that version of himself into tomorrow night's fight,

707
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: but Josey Aldo might be able to pick up on

708
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: some things. We're like, dude, has it been shown that

709
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: big power can deter Rob Font and fights? Yes, it

710
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: has in this weight class, no doubt about it. And

711
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: you got a guy like Josie Alda, who I don't

712
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 3: know if he's like a big power puncher, but he

713
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: he has certainly got the ability to have, you know,

714
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: fight changing strikes land with regularity in the course of

715
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: his career, whether they're leg kicks. By the way, don't

716
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: forget what's one part of Josealdo's offense that is incredible

717
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: body shots, liver shots. He is a vicious body puncher.

718
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: I think that's gonna be a huge part of how

719
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: he deters some of Rob Font and the jab and everything.

720
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, Foresuore, Dude, I think it's gonna be you know,

721
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 3: Rob is probably gonna be.

722
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 4: Content.

723
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, but like if he has to point

724
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 3: fight his way to five rounds, I think Rob is

725
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 3: willing to do that. I don't think jose And to

726
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: your point, as willing to do that. I think he

727
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 3: wants to get in there and kind of physically put

728
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 3: it on Rob in a way where Rob becomes less

729
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 3: of who he was before.

730
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: Well. I love vannam weight al though. I mean I

731
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, it's not like he was never this guy.

732
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: He's always been super aggressive and goes after it. But

733
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: I feel like since the Holloway knockout losses, he's been

734
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: more of a I'm gonna go out there and let

735
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: it go, and that happens to a great fighter when there,

736
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: you know, reflexes slow a little bit and speed slows

737
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: with it. But the recent win streak shows you that

738
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: he's still pretty damn near elite at this point. Luke,

739
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: I love this matchup because head to head, when I

740
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: look at it, I think all those the certainly the

741
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: more experienced fighter. I still think skill wise is the

742
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: better fighter. But you've got font who's sort of the

743
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: faster riser and the fresher fighter. At the moment, what

744
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: is that gonna lead? What will be the results? I

745
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: still think this is all those fights to win. I

746
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: still love the plus money on the veteran. If you

747
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: look at the recent level of the quality of fighters

748
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: that although has beat, I still think Rob Font fits

749
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: into that category. I like Jose Aldo here, Luke, do

750
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: you think him taking it to the ground and trying

751
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: to wrestle something we don't always see a ton of

752
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: could be part of the strategy at.

753
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: All from Aldo? Yes, from Font. Maybe Font goes for

754
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: about one and a half takedowns per fifteen minutes. Actually,

755
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: excuse me, secures one and a half takedowns per fifteen minutes. Typically,

756
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: you know, getting Jose Aldo down is hard, But I

757
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: actually feel like if I'm Rob Font, especially if the

758
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: JAB is having a little bit issue, or even if

759
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: it's cooking, actually you can go either way. But the

760
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: point being is to bring some dynamism to the game,

761
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: is to get Jose Aldo thinking about the takedown, about

762
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: what might happen if he gets too close, and blah

763
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah. Because remember, takedown distance is JAB distance.

764
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: Not always, but in general, that's the way you want

765
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 3: to be able to reach out and touch someone. That's

766
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 3: the that's the distance you want to be when you

767
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: take someone down. So yeah, I would expect some level

768
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 3: of that to be incorporated. But as you know, do

769
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 3: Jose Aldo. I mean, we've known this since Gray Maynard

770
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: went down there to Nova Unyao years ago, was like,

771
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: holy shit, this guy's takedown defense is next fucking level.

772
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: He's got some of the best hand fighting, by the

773
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: way in the division and grip breaking. If you guys

774
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: ever noticed when fighters get behind Jose Aldo and they

775
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: wrap up either with a gable grip or an s

776
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 3: grip or a scrip, whatever you want to call it,

777
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 3: He's very good about breaking that apart and getting away.

778
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: It's really really hard to get a tight waste around

779
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 3: Jose Aldo and then let that ride.

780
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 4: He's so gifted.

781
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: So I do think you should incorporate that to keep

782
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 3: him off balance, but you can't. You can't bank on

783
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 3: a game plan realize, oh, I'm just gonna take down

784
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: Jose Aldo and get on top.

785
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, good luck with that shit.

786
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: I was talking more about, although being more offensive with

787
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: his wrestling, which he isn't often, Luke, I'd love to

788
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: see him implement more top game. Now, look again, you're

789
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: taxing an older man's gas tank who is already cutting

790
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: down to a weight that I didn't think he could

791
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: ever make. But I think he could be more a

792
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: little bit more strategic in that. You don't see it

793
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: as a possibility, that's fine, but Luke, I see it

794
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: as a possibility for all though. To win this right,

795
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: I think he does have to stop Rob Fott, and

796
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: I think when we get into those later rounds, he will, Luke, Okay,

797
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: you heard it right here.

798
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: What round you think the championship rounds? First three round

799
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 3: seems a little bit early to me?

800
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked I like about the fourth round. I

801
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be able to go to the body

802
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: and that's gonna slow him down and hurt him. And then, look,

803
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: every great fighter can sometimes have a last stand I

804
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: don't think we're at the last standpoint yet. But if

805
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: you told me you saw the future and this was

806
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: Jose Aldo's last great win against a prime fighter in

807
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: the moment, I might be able to believe you. I

808
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: think all those got enough here.

809
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, let's turn the tables I think you bring

810
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: up a great point that we didn't discuss. We're all like, oh,

811
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 3: if Rob Font beats Jose it's such a great win.

812
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: That's true, Dude. I'm gonna say the reverse. If Jose

813
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: Aldo gets a win of a Rob Font, even if

814
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: he's somewhat expected to by the odds makers, to me,

815
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 3: that's a super quality win. It doesn't change my opinion

816
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 3: about whether he could be you know, Yan or whoever

817
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: the eventual champion might end up being. I still think

818
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: he's a little bit outside of that. But dude, you

819
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: know you want to tread water and you beat a

820
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 3: guy like Rob Faught, especially if you stop a guy

821
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 3: like dude John Lindeker couldn't stop Rob Font.

822
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 4: Jose Aldo does it. That would be.

823
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: Jose is in such a beloved portion of his career.

824
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: The crowd would go sick. I know it's Vegas, it's

825
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: the Apex, but the people will be getting fired up.

826
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: Luke Shaq Majori. On Monday, he let out something, he

827
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, what if all Though wins this and

828
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: we make all do dilla shop. Probably not likely given

829
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: that TJ seems to be in the bullpen for a

830
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: title shot, but let's say the injury lasts a little

831
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: bit longer and TJ gets skipped over. Could you imagine

832
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: how great I mean, you could still make that fight

833
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: if all though loses and we don't know what's gonna

834
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: happen with TJ moving forward. But I love me some

835
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: some old veterans matching up who still have some Then

836
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: to Ghibl, I.

837
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: Thought that was the fight to make when he wanted

838
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 3: to come back, and they ended up with the Corey

839
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 3: Sanhagen fight. I think Dillashaw versus Aldo is like, I mean,

840
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 3: that's just manna from heaven. I can't wait to see

841
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 3: that if they make it, so, I'd be all in favor.

842
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 3: But to your point, you know, with the title implications,

843
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 3: who the hell? And also with timing with his injuries

844
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: and shit, well, I.

845
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: Want to ask you who you think the winner of

846
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: this fight gets. I mean, it's number four versus number five.

847
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 1: But you do have some big matchups in the division

848
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: next week at UFC two sixty nine, when not only

849
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: Sean O'Malley returns, but Cody Garbrandt.

850
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Garbrant moved on the flyweight, but.

851
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: You got Pedro Munio's number eight against Dominic Cruz number ten,

852
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: you've still got morobbed Davas Shilly I bitchered the name

853
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: at number six. Could that be the guy who the winner?

854
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 3: It could be Yeah, I mean, if I'm san Hagen,

855
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 3: you know he has asked himself a question here about

856
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: like what he wants to do to get to the top.

857
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: If I'm him, I'm actually going to take a step

858
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: back and take someone outside the top five just to

859
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: sort of work on some things and then work my

860
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: way back up. Because you could say winner of this

861
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 3: Aldo font fight gets Sanhagen. I think that actually would

862
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: make a lot of sense for where they rank in

863
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 3: the division.

864
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 4: But I don't. I don't know.

865
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: Exactly what Sanhagen and his team have cooking on this one,

866
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 3: So I guess we'll have to say I don't.

867
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 4: I don't know what to see.

868
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: We'll talk more about it next week.

869
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: About Sugar Sean, and I know he's been taking a

870
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: certain level of matchups consistently because he feels like, if

871
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm only going to get paid a certain amount, why

872
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: take the risk. But you know, one of these days, Luke,

873
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: after he splatters another guy, his star power and celebrity

874
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: could could push him into a very very big fight.

875
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean, eventually we got to put on Mallley in

876
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: there and find out who he really is.

877
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: Correct, yes, but that there's so many factors that go

878
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 3: into that, including his contract, that's really hard to know

879
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 3: when that eventual push might get made. But there's no

880
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: doubt like he is he is. We thought it was

881
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: the Cheeto vera fight and then he lost it. But

882
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: he's due for a reckoning up the food chain.

883
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: Absolutely a referendum, if you will, also on this card, Luke,

884
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: we've talked it up. How fired the hell up? We

885
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: are very slight favorite Brad Riddell of in there against

886
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: Raphael Piziev of the Kazakhstan nation and Luke, this is

887
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: a a virtual pick them. We love the styles, we

888
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: love the potential for action. They know a great deal

889
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: about each other. What ultimately is the difference between these

890
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: two when they touch gloves on Saturday.

891
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: Night output output. Faziev has a much higher output and

892
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 3: is much more willing to take one to give one.

893
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: That's not to say he has bad defense. There were

894
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 3: If you go back, for example, and watch the Yan

895
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 3: versus Aldo fight, there are clearly scenarios. Not all the

896
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 3: time but there were a couple of scenarios where Yan

897
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: was willing to take a punch in a certain context

898
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: because then it opened up a three or four punch

899
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: combination to him. But he was eating one, and that

900
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 3: goes to some of the stats against him. Dude, Faziev

901
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: is just much more active about trading, much more active

902
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 3: about kind of receiving in the pocket, depending on what

903
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 3: he's trying to do. A guy like Rudell is a

904
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: little bit more careful, a little bit more more judicious,

905
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: I think with his offense. Oh the whole throw in

906
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: combination as well. It's not like he has a low output.

907
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: But I think what I'm paying attention to here, it's

908
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 3: hard to know exactly how they're gonna match up in

909
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: an MMA context with the kickboxing and if one of

910
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 3: them might go for the wrestling or at that part.

911
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 3: I never really know exactly what to say, But what

912
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 3: I do think is the hurried pace of a guy

913
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: like Faziah. If you see Riddell trying to play catch

914
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 3: up to that, that could be a problem. Conversely, if

915
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: you see Riddell slowing the fight down a little bit,

916
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 3: where Vasiah is sort of stuck because Vsiah's gonna be

917
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 3: a rhythm guy, right, He's gonna be this sort of

918
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: high energy guy. You got to take that away from

919
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: him by hook or by crook. That is sort of

920
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: what you're looking for here. Whose style of offense is

921
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 3: defining the complexion of the exchanges. The more judicious Riddell,

922
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: the more active Physiah. That to me is the central

923
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: tension here.

924
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: Well, look, Riddell's great, and you know I want I

925
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: want to see him get the chance to leap into

926
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: this top ten and take the big batchup to find

927
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: out who he is. We just saw that though in

928
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: his last fight you just saw the pictures there against

929
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: Drew was the kind of fight that sounded like the

930
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: one you're describing Saturdays will be high paced. Dober went

931
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: after it, he had moments. Ultimately Ridell wins by unanimous decision.

932
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: How much better do you think Viziev is than Drew

933
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: Dober And what will that, you know, mean for what

934
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: type of fight we're gonna.

935
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 3: See as a striker. I think he's probably much better,

936
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: But you know, I don't know how relevant that is.

937
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: I mean, here's a big difference between them. If for

938
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 3: per fifteen minutes, Brad Redell secures two takedowns per fifteen minutes. Now,

939
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 3: a couple of those times he got takedowns, it's because

940
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: he got rocked, like against Drew Dober, I think Mustafaiev

941
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 3: as well. But he also won both of those fights

942
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 3: in the end because he had that other gear to

943
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 3: go to. Maybe Ifaziah rocks him, but Brad Redell finds

944
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: a way to take it to the mat and hold

945
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: him down there, and so you end up getting a

946
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: scenario like that. It's it's it's really it's kind of

947
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 3: hard to say exactly, you know, indirect answer to your question,

948
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: but I guess what I would sort of point out

949
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 3: is there are a few different gears that a guy

950
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: like Riddell has to go to that I'm not saying

951
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: Faziev doesn't, but he hasn't shown it, at least by

952
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: choice or whatever. And so I'm looking to see Riddell

953
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: not only slow down the striking a little bit, but

954
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 3: I'm looking to see him change the places where this

955
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 3: fight is contested along the fence line, down on the mat.

956
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 4: That kind of a thing, because.

957
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 3: He this is not a kickboxing contest, it is an

958
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 3: MMA fight, and he is to me at least in

959
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: terms of mma, I would say Riddell is actually more

960
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 3: well rounded.

961
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 2: The odds are changing as I speak.

962
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean they were both in than minus, which is

963
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: basically a pick them with Physiev just a slight more

964
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: in there, and it's changed since then. Now Caesar Sportsbook

965
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: has plus one ten Riddell minus one thirty Physiev. You

966
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: see how competitive we expect this, Luke. At the end

967
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: of the day, though you have a CKB or not

968
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 1: when the winner is announced.

969
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: I don't know. I haven't looked at the odds. I

970
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 3: think said you talked about and they had changed. Eating

971
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 3: either way they were close.

972
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 4: I'll go Riddell.

973
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 3: I think phiziav is probably gonna give him problems on

974
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 3: the feet, and I also think that Becazzia is probably

975
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: the faster athlete of the two, by the way, I

976
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: think he's a little bit more explosive, a little bit

977
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: more nimble between them. But I do think that Radell

978
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: is a little bit more well rounded. If he plays

979
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 3: to those strengths, this is a very winnable fight for him.

980
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: Luke, Why, after I read you the odds and how

981
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: they change, would you respond with I don't know. I

982
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: haven't seen the odds like what.

983
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: Because I'm trying to I'm trying to read these numbers

984
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 3: and prepare my answer. I can't hang on every word.

985
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: I have a two way conversation with my editorial spouse,

986
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, just really just you know.

987
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 4: I'm trying. I'm trying.

988
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 3: I'm trying to ready my answer to make sure I

989
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: don't fuck that part up.

990
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: I apologize at all because people know I don't bring

991
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: anything to the table. They're here for you. Luke, when

992
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: you look up and down this great card, do you

993
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: have any uh predictions to make what? What?

994
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 2: Give me a lock?

995
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: Give me a Luke Thomas lock on this card?

996
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 4: A lock? Now, that is tough.

997
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: A lock, I mean beyond beyond Cheyenne v Listmas. You know,

998
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: uh sounds like she did break free, Luke.

999
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 3: Okay, she did, I hear yeuh Vlissmass. I don't know

1000
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 3: what the origin of that is? A lock on this one,

1001
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know what. I'll probably this will

1002
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: probably blow up in my face. But I am a

1003
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: big believer in Brendan Allen. I think he's a very

1004
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 3: talented guy. I think Chris Cortis is too. But I've

1005
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: taken this fight in pretty quick succession. I like Brendan

1006
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: Allen here. I think he's very well rounded, very technical,

1007
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: very well trained.

1008
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 4: I I like him here a lot.

1009
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: Luke, we haven't seen the best of Jimmy Cruit yet,

1010
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: still just twenty five years old. This could be a

1011
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: good matchup for him against Jamal Hill to put that

1012
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: back together. He comes in as a slight favorite, but

1013
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: he is coming off the TKO lost to Anthony Smith.

1014
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: Are you high on this man at all?

1015
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: Yes, but though some of those setbacks have shown that

1016
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 3: there's a lot of room left to go. Clearly he's big,

1017
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,479
Speaker 3: he's got big power. I think he's I think he's

1018
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 3: respectably well rounded, but there's been some defensive issues to

1019
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: iron out. And against Jamal Hill, he's gonna need him

1020
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: to be ironed out because that guy can thump and

1021
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: he's quick.

1022
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, I do.

1023
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 3: I think all these guys have certain moments.

1024
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: Where you're like, Wow, they're really talented.

1025
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: It's it's it's the it's the overall auditing that happens

1026
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 3: over time where you're like, there's still some things to

1027
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: work on. I think Krut's defense needs needs to be

1028
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: tightened up.

1029
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: Last minute main card edition is welterweight's Brian Barberina against

1030
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: Darien Weeks. Barbarina's lost three or four, Luke, but he

1031
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: is must see TV every time out old bamband himself.

1032
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 3: Yes, I think he's half Colombian by the way.

1033
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that that might explain its toughness, Luke, and

1034
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: willing to get after.

1035
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 4: It if you you know it certainly might.

1036
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: That wasn't That wasn't suggestive or or stereotypic at all.

1037
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 3: It was stereotypic.

1038
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't want to say racist. It's not racist.

1039
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 4: It's a little racist. That's okay.

1040
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 1: You know who my favorite Colombian person is of all time, Luke.

1041
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 4: I'm going to guess you're gonna make some drug dealer joke.

1042
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: No, I don't do that anymore since you told me

1043
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: how much it hurts your family. Edison Miranda Remember that

1044
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: boxing Lighthead Road?

1045
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,439
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, Wait who was the guy that beat

1046
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 3: Khan Britus Prescott.

1047
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, one punch de mer Khan? Yes he was

1048
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: also Yeah. I love that guy, all right, Luke. UFC

1049
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: is Saturday, but tonight ten pm Eastern is your main

1050
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: card only on showtime Guys.

1051
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: If you I mean if you.

1052
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: If you already know, you know, but if you're somehow

1053
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: a casual here, this is a world class main event

1054
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: for the bantamweight world title. Belatore seventy two going down

1055
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: in Connecticut at the Mohican Sun. Sergio pettis your new

1056
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: Belato Or Bantamweight Champion, but he will be the betting

1057
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: underdog at plus one point when he welcomes back to

1058
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: the Belator cage. Kyogi Horror Gucci a minus one sixty favorite,

1059
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: Luke for anyone that was sleeping Horror. Gucci's been off

1060
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: for a year with a knee injury, but he beat

1061
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: Darren Caldwell and back to back fights, one in Belatour,

1062
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: one in Rising to win the VANDAM White title for Bellatour.

1063
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: He lost to Kayasakura but avenged it by knockout to

1064
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: win the Rising title. Apparently I mispronounced Rising all the

1065
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: time and people are very upset at me. Look I'm

1066
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: sorry about that, Luke. We love this matchup. We went

1067
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 1: over the storylines you and I did wig in coverage

1068
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: for CBS Sports HQ. We got a chance to talk

1069
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: to Sergio Pettis. He told me about the mindset change

1070
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: on his four fight win streak. The old guy has gone.

1071
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: He's no longer showtimes little bro. He is a full fledged,

1072
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: complete elite fighter. But good Lord cor Gucci is great, Luke.

1073
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just there's nothing better in this than

1074
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: to see a matchup this good. To see Pettis come

1075
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: out and say I'm the champion, but I'm not the

1076
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: real champion unless I beat the guy who never lost

1077
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: it in the bellator cage. We go to x's and

1078
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: o's on Fridays. What should we look for in this

1079
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: fantastic bearing.

1080
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 3: I think in certain ways. You know, obviously one Archiletta

1081
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 3: and Kioji Hoagucci are wildly different opponents. But one thing

1082
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: that they might have in common. Might we'll have to

1083
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: see what game plan he employs, is that he was

1084
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: gonna be Both guys are gonna float on the outside

1085
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: and then make either these blitzes or these brief charges

1086
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 3: into the pocket to strike. But the difference is that

1087
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: a guy like Archiletta is going to do that off

1088
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 3: like wrestling feints, and he's gonna be box heavy, boxing

1089
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: heavy in MMA to.

1090
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 4: Get to that.

1091
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: A guy like Horagucci is gonna be much more judicious

1092
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: with that. He's gonna be able to bounce in and

1093
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: out of pocket versus like I'm out, I'm in, and

1094
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 3: I'm gone. He's gonna be able to play with that

1095
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: a little bit. And so while it's good to have

1096
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: an opponent who was on the outside, who you had

1097
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: to learn how to corner and then anticipate some of

1098
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 3: the movement towards you to react to, Kioji Hooragucci is

1099
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 3: just going to be a lot different. I think the

1100
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 3: Kayasakora fights tell us a lot. Why did he lose

1101
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 3: the first time? He got over confident and charged right

1102
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: in and didn't really set up his entries very well

1103
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 3: and got timed over the top off of his jab.

1104
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 3: It was you could just see it coming. He Kaiasakara

1105
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 3: waited for him, popped him, and then closed the show

1106
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 3: from there. In the rematch, what you saw was something

1107
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: very different, horr Gucci playing very much on the outside,

1108
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 3: tons of feints, tons of fakes, tons of turning and

1109
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 3: then going for that outside low caff kick, and it

1110
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 3: was devastating. Kayastaklara couldn't stand after maybe four or five

1111
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 3: of them. He was in deep trouble. And then by

1112
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 3: that point he was so hobbled, he got hit with

1113
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: a big shot and then h you know, obviously Horror

1114
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 3: Gucci finished him off from there. So what I'm expecting

1115
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 3: here is again Sergio Pettis kind of stalking. I'm expecting

1116
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: Horror Gucci to work from the outside, but I think

1117
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 3: hor Gucci is going to be much more careful, maintaining distance,

1118
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 3: learning to strike at the furthest away range as possible,

1119
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 3: the safest one, and then slowly getting closer and closer

1120
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 3: as he begins to figure out some of the nuances

1121
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: and the responses that Sergio Pettis shows him, which means

1122
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 3: there might be some slow moments of the fight, but

1123
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 3: I think it will heat up over the course of time.

1124
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 3: A guy like Horror Gucci, who is so nimble, so fast,

1125
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 3: he has to be very careful about making sure he

1126
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 3: stays far enough away to stay out of big problems.

1127
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: Because a guy like Sergio Pettis.

1128
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 4: Dude, he can.

1129
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 3: His ability to time people between beats is incredible.

1130
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 4: It's very very good.

1131
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 3: In fact, that's how he got his only stoppage win

1132
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 3: inside Bolts against the Armenian guy whose name I forget.

1133
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: But this is what I'm expecting. No, no, it's a one

1134
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 3: forty five fighter. It's a different guy. I forget his name.

1135
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 3: It was the debut I think in Belts or four Petties,

1136
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: and he won in.

1137
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: Vicious Alfred cash kai In.

1138
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 3: Yeah that guy, that guy, Yeah, that caught him right,

1139
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 3: caught him right between punches. It was incredible. But so

1140
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: that that's what Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. I'm

1141
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: looking for a guy like Horror Gucci on the outside

1142
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 3: pot shotting at first and then slowly getting warmer as

1143
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 3: the fighter heats up.

1144
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: Look, the major difference between these guys might be power,

1145
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: the finishing power of hor Gucci, the physical strength. It's

1146
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: hard to bity this guy. He's so well rounded and

1147
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 1: so smart at the end of the day. But look,

1148
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: we saw just use Archiletta's aggressiveness sort of against him,

1149
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: waiting for him to come in, disrupting his rhythm as

1150
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: you said, but really just landing clean countershots and kind

1151
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: of making him look a little bit one dimensional in

1152
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: that regard. He kind of waited back. Who do you

1153
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: think becomes the aggressor early on in this.

1154
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 3: Way, Pettis. I think Petis will look to counter strike,

1155
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: but I think he's going to look to illicit a response.

1156
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: Do Horra Gucci got into trouble when he became like

1157
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: the pressure you backwards kind of fighter, especially got like

1158
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 3: Sergio Petis, whose clinical has good timing, can slip punches.

1159
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,959
Speaker 3: You can't just run into him. I expect it's actually

1160
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 3: gonna be Petess who's looking to pressure and then elicit

1161
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 3: some kind of response from Horagucci and then counter that.

1162
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: Horror Gucci's challenge is going to be obviously getting out

1163
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: of the way of whatever potential counter is thrown from Petish.

1164
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: Do you see wrestling playing a factor.

1165
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: In this, Yes, I do. I think Pettis has very

1166
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 3: underrated wrestling. Again, it's the rob font thing. Even if

1167
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 3: you don't get the takedown. If Hora Gucci has to

1168
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 3: worry about it and think about it and he has

1169
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 3: to make decisions about how to get around it, that's

1170
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 3: going to change the equation a little bit.

1171
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 4: I think Horr Gucci, you know.

1172
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 3: Obviously Darien Colwell was able to get him down for

1173
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 3: big portions of however long.

1174
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 4: Both fights lasted.

1175
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 3: But you know, the Petis is not Darien Caldwell and

1176
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 3: isn't going to pursue a game plan like that. But

1177
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: I think again, off balancing people, getting them thinking high low,

1178
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 3: that stuff can be quite beneficial. So I'm not expecting

1179
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 3: a wrestling heavy fight, but I'm expecting a dynamic setup

1180
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 3: process from Sergio Pettis as the fight wears on.

1181
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: Look when you look at what they both accomplished, and look,

1182
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the experience edge goes to Horagucci. And

1183
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: let's not forget he was seven to one in the

1184
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: UFC nine and one in Rising. But yet Pettis, I

1185
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: mean he's got wins over you know, Joe Benavidez, over A,

1186
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: an early pre champion, Brandon Reno. I mean, he's no

1187
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: slouch himself. Would you say, though, that given the stakes

1188
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: and given where both of them are at their careers now,

1189
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: that whoever wins will have scored the bigest, most impressive

1190
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: win of their career.

1191
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: For Sergio Pettis, yes, yes, for kill Gi Hora Gucci,

1192
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 3: that's a different one, because here's the thing, single okay,

1193
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 3: as a single best win. Maybe I guess what I

1194
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 3: just wanted to point out is I put the two

1195
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 3: Darien Caldwell wins together as like such an impressive feat

1196
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I really thought that was

1197
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 3: extremely impressive the way he did that, But as a

1198
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 3: singular one win, Yeah, it might actually be.

1199
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 4: This might actually be mutually their toughest test.

1200
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 3: That's a little bit debatable, but definitely true in the

1201
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 3: case of Sergio, and I would argue yeah, probably in

1202
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 3: the case of killed Jorggucci as well.

1203
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 2: Luke, you and I have already gone public on CBS

1204
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 2: Sports HQ.

1205
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: We both like the former champ to get back in

1206
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: there and reclaim his belt. We also both believe it

1207
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: goes the distance and it's a decision win for Horror Gucci.

1208
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 1: But if you're Sergio Pettis, how do you change that? Luke,

1209
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: We don't look at him as a big finisher. Can

1210
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 1: he come out and I'll look you know, look, let's

1211
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: let's hold it out. We don't know what's gonna happen.

1212
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: Is Horr Gucci the same fighter after the knee injuries?

1213
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: Young enough, he probably will be Okay, I expect a

1214
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: great Horror Gucci.

1215
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 2: You're Sergio Pettis, though.

1216
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: Can you raise your game to an even higher level

1217
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: through movement, through strategy? What can he do to pull

1218
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: the upset here? Although the odds are.

1219
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 3: Very close, imagine a scenario like Jan versus Aldo. And

1220
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 3: for folks who may not remember, Jan is a switch hitter,

1221
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 3: but Aldo is an Orthodox, so he's this way. Jan

1222
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 3: decided somewhere I think around the second round or so,

1223
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 3: it's really the third on to go South Paul. He

1224
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 3: switched a little bit, but he stayed in South Paul

1225
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 3: and it shut down the jab of Jose Aldo and

1226
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 3: a few other things. But the real key insight to

1227
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 3: me was he was able to crowd Jose Aldo, which

1228
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 3: is also one of the reasons why Aldo couldn't get

1229
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 3: off as many lay kicks probably in that fight as

1230
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 3: he wanted to. Sergio Pettis sometimes in fights has ability

1231
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 3: to corner fighters, but he hovers. He doesn't really get

1232
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 3: into that tight window where he can force dramatic action,

1233
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 3: hold the jab and if your opposite stances and then

1234
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 3: go to the body with your cross or whatever you

1235
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 3: may do. He kind of hovers a little bit further away.

1236
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 3: What he needs to do this time is similar kind

1237
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 3: of approach, except he needs to get in close. You

1238
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: gotta cray, dude. Just think about it. Rationally, If Koji

1239
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 3: Horra Gucci has room to move, and he has room

1240
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 3: to blitz, and he has room to evade. How are

1241
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 3: you gonna beat him? It is possible, certainly, that's gonna

1242
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 3: be fucking hard. You gotta take that away from him.

1243
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 3: You have to crowd him. You have to make him

1244
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 3: feel like he is trapped in a phone booth, and

1245
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 3: you have to give him a series of bad choices

1246
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 3: to make upon which you know how to act thereafter.

1247
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 3: If Koji Horragucci can move, he can win, simple as that.

1248
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 1: Does it matter at all that Horror Gucci has been

1249
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: in a cage, what just one time in the last

1250
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: ten fights. That doesn't matter, right, It's.

1251
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: Not great, it's not great, But he's not some inexperienced guy,

1252
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 3: all right, like Kioji Horragucci has thirty two pro fights.

1253
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 2: Great the UFC.

1254
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 1: He's no stranger to a cage. I'm just looking at

1255
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: potential X factors.

1256
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think again, and then the injury to his

1257
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 3: knee as well. I think these are all to your point.

1258
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 3: These are great questions to ask, definitely things to pay

1259
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 3: attention to. And by the way, I know there's a

1260
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 3: lot of folks who kind of think, Okay, I respect

1261
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 3: Sergio Pettis, but this is hor Gucci gonna win and

1262
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 3: it's just you know, when you're out the other and

1263
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 3: they're not necessarily paying as much attention to this as

1264
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 3: they should be. Dude, a Sergio Pettis win here should

1265
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 3: not be surprising if it happens. I don't think it's

1266
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: the likeliest outcome, but it should hardly be surprising.

1267
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 4: This dude is twenty eight. Dude, he's twenty eight.

1268
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: He is good.

1269
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 3: He is very good. So there are some X factors

1270
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 3: in play, and maybe the knee will be an issue.

1271
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 4: Maybe you know, who knows. There's a few factors, but.

1272
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 3: It is close enough where if he has a little

1273
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 3: bit of rust and a little bit of knee issues,

1274
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 3: that could make all the difference by the time you

1275
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 3: hit the championship rounds.

1276
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 4: This is a coming fight.

1277
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: Kick him right in the knee, just be like, okay,

1278
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: now we'll fight.

1279
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:02,959
Speaker 4: Just stomp that shit.

1280
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 2: We've known sp for he turned pro ten years ago.

1281
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: We've known him for most of that because he came

1282
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: to the UFC very early in his brother's shadow. The

1283
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: narrative when he beat Archilada Rifle, he was you know,

1284
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: he's out of that shadow. He has really found out

1285
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: how to be great. And I give him all that credit.

1286
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: You think he can eclipse his brother's legacy. I mean,

1287
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: it feels like he's only twenty eight and he's just

1288
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: figuring out how great he can be.

1289
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 3: It's in play, Lukee, it's in play. But that's a

1290
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: big ask. Not because Sergio doesn't have a great record.

1291
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: He does, but like, here's the other part too. Pettis

1292
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 3: is still living. Maybe it was a curse more than

1293
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 3: anything else, but he's still living in the like this

1294
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: is the dude on the weedies box, you know, Pettis.

1295
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 3: Sergio Pettis is a while from that. It's not this

1296
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 3: was dude. This is such a quality win if he

1297
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 3: can get it that, I think then at that point

1298
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: you begin to be like, Okay, let's actually compare the

1299
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 3: resumes and maybe they're not the same, but you enter

1300
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 3: a different territory of the conversation. But in terms of

1301
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 3: like widespread acclaim, I think actually Sergio Pettis has a

1302
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 3: lot of work to do.

1303
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: Look, I gave you the Sneaky Spike Carlisle bellontour debut

1304
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: as something to watch for. Do you have anything to

1305
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: offer the fans? Is it a Kyle Crutchmer Oliver en

1306
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: Camp matchup? What on this card will have you tuning

1307
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: in before the main event? Interested and excited.

1308
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 3: Candidly, I don't love a whole lot about the card.

1309
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 3: There are some interesting fighters on there. Alex I can't

1310
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,919
Speaker 3: pronounce it right, Shabilee Shabilly, the Russian guy who's twenty

1311
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 3: and three I was sort of a hot prospect at

1312
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty five pounds by the way, a

1313
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 3: guy who was cut from the UFC, but very very

1314
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 3: competitive and close fights. Kai Kamaka speaking his bell tour. Yeah,

1315
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 3: he's got the best, the best tats in maybe all

1316
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 3: of mma. He's just got tremendous, tremendous work. I got

1317
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 3: an extreme coutur. He was in the fights that he

1318
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 3: ultimately lost. Very very talented, but dude, it's got to

1319
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 3: be the co main event. Also out of extreme coutur.

1320
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 3: Jeremy Kennedy taking on Emanuel Sanchez. Manuel Sanchez, you know

1321
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 3: he got blown out by Pitt Bull in the semis

1322
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: of that Grand Prix. This dude can fight. He is

1323
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 3: so so so talented, and Jeremy Kennedy is no slouch himself.

1324
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 3: Sixteen to three record has fought very very good guys.

1325
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 3: I think it's a tough fight for Kennedy, but I

1326
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 3: do think it's winnable, and in either case Emmanuel Sanchez

1327
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 3: Still I'm not saying he has to prove he can

1328
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 3: get finishes or something like that.

1329
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 4: BC.

1330
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 3: I don't think it's quite like as starkly laid out

1331
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: as that, but I will say that, like, if he

1332
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 3: can add to the resume of like now I can

1333
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 3: reliably be trusted to finish off opponents that are not

1334
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 3: as good as me, that would only hasten his his

1335
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 3: chances to get back at the title opportunities.

1336
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: Nikky maker brave fight for him because Okay, he lost

1337
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: to Patricio in the rematch, but then he lost to

1338
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: Mads Burnell in a competitive fight, Luke, so he could

1339
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: use a big win to remain in that greater title

1340
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: picture overall, So yes.

1341
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 3: And then but Mad's Burnell also like criminally underrated and

1342
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 3: can wrestle his ass off. Caro Kennedy can wrestle by

1343
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 3: no means a slouch on the mat, probably not as

1344
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 3: like chain wrestling grappling position ability oriented, I should say

1345
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 3: Bruno doesn't quite have that alright.

1346
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: Also boxing this weekend, we hit the storylines earlier in

1347
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: the week, but it goes down to Vegas at the

1348
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: MGM Grand Unbeaten WBC lightweight champion Devin Haney just twenty

1349
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: three years old, one of the most promising, well rounded,

1350
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: skilled young fighters in this game, taking on a hungry

1351
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: former two division champion Joseph Diaz Junior, a southpaw who

1352
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: brings the action kim box. He was an Olympian, but

1353
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: he's known for that aggressiveness. Luke. I expect this to

1354
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: be a fun matchup, especially considering Devin Haney in that

1355
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: step up fight against Jorge Lenaris that we mentioned earlier

1356
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: in the week. His last time out looked amazing for

1357
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: ten rounds and then really had to hang on late

1358
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: when he got that chin tested. The overall storyline, though,

1359
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: is that lightweight title picture and the fact that George

1360
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: Cambosos is the new unlikely king with three or four titles.

1361
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: The only title he does not have is around the

1362
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: waist of Devin Haney. Cambosos has said, look, hey, he's

1363
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: the front runner. I want to do it in Australia

1364
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: in front of eighty thousand in a soccer stadium or

1365
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: rugby stadium, whatever the hell you guys play there. Down

1366
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: under full respect, but Haney said, look, I want that

1367
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: fight too, So look, we know the potential stakes right here,

1368
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: but I gotta give some respect, which people think I

1369
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: did not give to Camboso's because we spent so much

1370
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: time on the storyline of Teo Fimo's potential free fall,

1371
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: which was warranted editorily on our end. But since that victory,

1372
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: Cambosos has done nothing but keep himself in the public eye.

1373
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: I don't know who he's using as a PR agent,

1374
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: but Luke, he's been interviewed by every single media out

1375
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,439
Speaker 1: list and show essentially except for us, and he's really

1376
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: got his face and name out there. And I saw

1377
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: lou de Bella tweet that they're gonna have Cambosa's Saturday

1378
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: night ringside for this hany Ds fight in Vegas and

1379
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: then the next night ringside in LA for the Gravante

1380
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: Davis fight. So it's a potential tryout for both Davis

1381
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: and Haney to try to get that fight.

1382
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 2: But I also got to give Cambosa's credit.

1383
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: Luke, this is the way to you stay known heading

1384
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: into trying to cash in on your biggest beading.

1385
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 4: I will say it to you.

1386
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 3: We were wrong about George Campbos's chances, and we were

1387
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 3: wrong about who he is as a person. He fought

1388
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 3: superbly against Lopez, There's no denying that, and he has

1389
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 3: played the win about as well as a human being

1390
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 3: can play it, both in terms of asserting what he

1391
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 3: always knew to be true, to make his story likable.

1392
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 3: He worked hard for it, and he is like, buddy,

1393
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 3: you want to talk about striking when the iron is hot,

1394
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 3: this is the way to do it. He has shaken

1395
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 3: that division up in the most interesting of ways. I

1396
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 3: don't know how long he'll be a player. We'll have

1397
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 3: to see, you know. It's a tough division to be

1398
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 3: a player in at the pace and the place he is,

1399
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 3: But dude, he has my respect. This guy is not

1400
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 3: taking his foot off the gas, and I honestly can't

1401
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 3: wait to see.

1402
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 4: Like do I expect Davis to beat Haney? Ultimately?

1403
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 3: Probably not right. I think probably Hani is gonna get

1404
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,959
Speaker 3: his hand raised here. But George has just his win

1405
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 3: has made us rethink all the different possibilities of what

1406
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 3: could happen and what could be coming and going, and

1407
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 3: who's up and who's down, and what might be interesting

1408
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 3: and what is inevitable and what is not inevitable.

1409
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 4: I love what he's bringing to the table here.

1410
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 3: He's making a fight that seemed a little bit ho

1411
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 3: hum candidly a lot more interesting now that he's there.

1412
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: And when he can offer the potential of a full

1413
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: stadium like that in Australia, where they are, as we

1414
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: already know, you know, die hard for combat sports. We've

1415
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: seen some of the biggest crowds in UFC history down Under.

1416
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: We've seen Manny Pacio and Jeff Horn in front of

1417
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: that giant stadium.

1418
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: So that would be a fun event.

1419
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: But first Hani's got to get past Diaz and Luke

1420
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: with what we talked about. I mean, Hany is so

1421
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: damn skilled in every category. We got to really find

1422
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: out here. Was that a hiccup against Lenaries? Does he

1423
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: have the chin, the backbone? I believe Joseph Diaz is

1424
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: gonna try to find that out. He is sort of,

1425
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, evolved out of being a pure boxer. I

1426
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: know this week he talked up about, Hey, don't forget me,

1427
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm a great boxer. Well, dude, you're a good boxer.

1428
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: You're not out boxing Devin Haney. Your chance to do it.

1429
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: In my opinion, is for Diaz to get inside, take

1430
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: chances and make this a fight, because Luke Hani is

1431
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: so skilled. We saw it against your Yorka Scamboa when

1432
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: he got booed that he can outbox you from distance

1433
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: in the most boring fashion possible and not get touched.

1434
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: Hani is that quick, smart, and just you know, technically flawless.

1435
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: He's also gonna have a seven inch reach advantage. But

1436
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: which is monster? So Luke, if I'm Joseph Diaz, I've

1437
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: gotta be willing to get knocked out to try to

1438
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: win this fight because we're talking about is Dravonte in

1439
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: the sweepstakes for Cambosis? Is Ryan Garcia? Hey, guys, how

1440
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: about Jojo Diaz. If he comes out here and upsets

1441
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: Devin Haney, he may put himself right in that mix.

1442
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 4: He's got some nice wins Jojo does.

1443
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 3: The Tevin Farmer win stands out, The jave Er Fortuna

1444
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 3: win stands out. But with all due respect to Fortuna

1445
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 3: and the former, I have great respect for both of

1446
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 3: them as boxers.

1447
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 4: They are very very good.

1448
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 3: Haney, if he's operating at his distance, is better than

1449
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 3: both of them. I mean by a considerable margin at

1450
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 3: that listen, Jojo Diaz can win this fight, but if

1451
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 3: he can't get on the inside, he cannot win this fight.

1452
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 3: It is just as simple as that. You just you

1453
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 3: don't have to be a boxing expert PC at all.

1454
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 3: Go type in, you know, the Diaz highlights here for

1455
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 3: him and see what comes up, and all of it

1456
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 3: is him.

1457
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 4: Not quite foam booth all the.

1458
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 3: Time, but really kind of close range head to head,

1459
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 3: sometimes shoulder to shoulder, real inside fighting kind of stuff.

1460
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 3: He's not going to be the stick and move operator

1461
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 3: that Devin Haney is going to try to be for

1462
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 3: long stretches of this fight.

1463
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 4: But as you.

1464
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 3: Indicated against Lenares, you know, he got tagged with one

1465
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 3: and then the legs went whoop, and you were like,

1466
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 3: well wait a second. So it will it'll be interesting

1467
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 3: to the extent that Jojo Diaz can make it interesting,

1468
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 3: but that is I'll make it as simple as I can.

1469
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 3: If he can't get inside that reach, it is not

1470
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 3: a winnable contest for him period.

1471
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: Haney has had problems comparative to the other four princes

1472
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: to look at, you know, super exciting, and sometimes it's

1473
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: because he's so skilled he can just do it boring

1474
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: and get it done well. Luke, you know, if you're

1475
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: just comparing skills between Ryan Garcia, Teo Fimo Gervante and

1476
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: now Devin Haney, Hey, HAINI might be pump for Palm

1477
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: the most skilled, So the pedigree is there for him

1478
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: to be a superstar, but you gotta win these tests.

1479
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm very much looking forward to this fight on Saturday.

1480
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: It's on his own and to see if Diz can

1481
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: push that pressure. But the pick has to go with

1482
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: Hani because of the skills. The reach Vegas has minus

1483
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: six hundred for Hany, plus four to twenty five for

1484
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: Joseph Diez. So as you mentioned, if things go right

1485
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: for Dz, he is very skilled and tough and look

1486
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: I kind of like he has his public Rebrint brand.

1487
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: He kind of came up as like Golden Boy Junior.

1488
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: He was promoted by Oscar de la Hoya. He was

1489
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: a fresh face, good looking kid. Have you noticed he's

1490
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: now going with the trucker hat and the neck tats

1491
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: and like the tough guy goatee. I kind of like

1492
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: the look.

1493
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 3: Look, you know, well, what is your opinion? What would

1494
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 3: it take for you to get a neck tattoo?

1495
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: Probably probably a prison sentence. But you know that's fine.

1496
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 3: Right If I get a neck tattoo in the next

1497
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 3: five years, because I do like neck tattoos, would you

1498
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 3: disown me?

1499
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: I wouldn't because obviously the stigma has changed.

1500
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: But you know, when you grew up in the nineties,

1501
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: if you saw somebody with a tattoo on their hand

1502
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: or their neck, yeah, you know you wonder that.

1503
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 3: Was you're either a crip, a blood or you know

1504
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 3: in the area nation, that was it.

1505
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: You've definitely done time. The only question is are you

1506
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: gonna stab me? That's really that was what it used

1507
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: to be. Now it's hit been cool and and you

1508
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: know for chicks even I guess, but.

1509
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 3: Do Jervante has Dude, Davante has his whole neck blasted

1510
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 3: and also like the underpart of his jaw, like it

1511
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 3: doesn't come over the jaw beard.

1512
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all almost like an underbeard.

1513
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting.

1514
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 4: I like it. I like it, Luke.

1515
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: I do have to get over the hurdle of my

1516
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: hatred of needles and just the whole you know, like,

1517
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'm really bad at giving blood, and you know,

1518
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: you could say what you want about me. That's fine, Luke,

1519
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: we all have dark holes, right, spiders, black licorice needles.

1520
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't do it, Luke.

1521
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, all right, it's not that it's not that bad.

1522
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 3: Once you get your MK tattoo, you'll realize it's not

1523
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 3: that big.

1524
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: A deal, and then then I'll just go for it.

1525
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 4: Right, that's right.

1526
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 3: Then you're gonna get your whole ship blasted and you're

1527
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 3: gonna look like, you know, stitches the round?

1528
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: How much would it cost me to get a sleeve

1529
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: on one arm? From a decently skilled guy.

1530
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 3: I can give you a rough estimate, so I would say,

1531
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 3: from a decently skilled guy.

1532
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and remember I'm cheap. I'm really cheap, Luke. Okay,

1533
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: you know that four I used to having money. Okay,

1534
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:49,879
Speaker 1: I'm a cheap.

1535
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 3: Bastard, about four thousand dollars probably, all right, it's less

1536
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 3: the money. It's more than the fact you might have

1537
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 3: to sit in a chair for eighteen to twenty four hours.

1538
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 4: That would be the issue.

1539
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 1: Can I get blasted beforehand?

1540
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 3: But that's not safe, right, it's not safe, But you can.

1541
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 4: Here's one thing.

1542
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 3: I got tattoos on my twenties when they didn't well

1543
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 3: what they had is I didn't know about it. But

1544
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 3: now do they've gotten In fact, hold on.

1545
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 4: I think I have.

1546
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, so now they have numbing cream. This is one

1547
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 3: that I I've only used it for this tattoo. I

1548
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 3: tried it out. I didn't I didn't apply it very well,

1549
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 3: so it didn't work that well. But where I did

1550
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 3: work it was pretty interesting. Uh, you can get numbing

1551
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 3: cream like this right there. T XTK is the one.

1552
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 3: It's from China, so it probably isn't safe. It probably

1553
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 3: gave me COVID and ebola at the same time.

1554
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 4: I have no idea.

1555
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 3: But what you can do is you can if you

1556
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 3: apply it properly. I've seen guys put it on their

1557
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 3: neck and like their legs for example, for like big

1558
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 3: big pieces, and they didn't feel a thing for as

1559
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 3: long as they were in there.

1560
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 4: So you can do that. Now you can take the

1561
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 4: you can take the puss.

1562
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,839
Speaker 1: We're culturally inappropriate me assuming that when you had malaria

1563
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: in Egypt that the only toilets was a hole in

1564
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: the ground. Are you saying that that Chinese numbing cream

1565
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 1: will give you the omnicron.

1566
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 3: It's not omnichron, it's omicron. There's no there's no n

1567
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 3: behind the m uh.

1568
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 1: Doctor, Luke Fauci. Hey, Luke, what it like Greek letter?

1569
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm gonna get teeth pulled, they can

1570
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: put me out, and you know, I'm trusting my body

1571
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: with the doctors while I'm out.

1572
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 2: Why can't tell me the science? Why can I not say?

1573
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: I want to full sleeve for four k but I

1574
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: don't want to feel that shit, so just put me out.

1575
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think they can give you anesthesia. Number one,

1576
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,799
Speaker 3: you have to be an anesthesiologist for that. And number

1577
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 3: two could they give you and it takes time? Like

1578
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 3: could they give you anesthesis and anesthetics for twenty four hours?

1579
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 4: I think you die?

1580
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 1: I think people do that. It's called illegal drugs. Kalanapins.

1581
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: You know you can be off for three days? Luke.

1582
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 3: Right, Hey, I've taken kalanapin. What's a fun ride? But

1583
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to get tatted on it.

1584
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is that sounds like a business proposal.

1585
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: If you're a tattoo artist and your friend is a

1586
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: is a doctor who has access to Yeah, why don't

1587
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 1: you just merge businesses? Luke? There there you go? Right?

1588
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, I'm sure people have thought of this before,

1589
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 3: but it sounds like a bad idea.

1590
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's close with quick hitters, as

1591
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: we do in our fifth topic every Friday, Luke, I

1592
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: will read some news and you'll tell me your reaction

1593
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: to them. Will start in the UFC our producer writes

1594
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 1: Aspin lad is heading to bantamweight. She's always been at

1595
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: Bandam white. Luke, the problem is is she heading to featherweight?

1596
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: But as she told them, I'm a junkie. I talking

1597
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: about Misha Tate. I think Misha's definitely stirred the pot

1598
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 1: quite a bit. We all have life experiences, right, but

1599
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 1: without knowing what's happened to another person, you can't just

1600
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: apply like your triggers and what's wrong with you to them.

1601
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: She has a tendency to see the world through what's

1602
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 1: happened to her in the past. I don't want to

1603
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 1: talk s, but I definitely want that fight. You said

1604
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 1: some things, Misha. Let's go handle it like adults here, Luke.

1605
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 2: Is she leaving bandam weight? Did Mike get the headline wrong?

1606
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 1: Here? She going to featherweight? She probably should, Luke. You

1607
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: passed out on a scale twice in four fights. You

1608
01:11:58,320 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: probably should move.

1609
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 3: Up right, Yeah, but I think if she wants me Tate,

1610
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 3: it's only gonna happen at one thirty five.

1611
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 1: So all right, Tate just lost a five rounder, Luke,

1612
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: she's probably gonna be looking for names moving forward. Do

1613
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: you like this fight?

1614
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 4: I do?

1615
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 3: But remember when Aspen Ladd got grilled in her corner

1616
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 3: by her cornerman. It was Misha Tate who came out

1617
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 3: and had a lot to say about it on the

1618
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 3: radio show in Sirius XM and social media and other places.

1619
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 3: I guess Aspen Ladd caught wind of it and now wants,

1620
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,600
Speaker 3: I guess to avenge it. Actually makes it work for

1621
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 3: a decent kind of you know, get back scrap for

1622
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 3: both of them. Actually like it a lot, So yeah,

1623
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 3: let's make that fight.

1624
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: I like when there's something salty to talk about hidden

1625
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:37,799
Speaker 1: into a fight.

1626
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 4: Right, Luke, It's about the only thing you like.

1627
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: But yes, if I could write their material, I'd get

1628
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: Aspen going on that ATV, that caraway stole, I'd get

1629
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: I get all the you know, yeah, man, all right, Hey,

1630
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: John Jones, Luke had an explosive You had explosive diaryel

1631
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 1: last week. John Jones had an explosive few days on Twitter,

1632
01:12:56,280 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 1: taking out his wrath on former coach Mike Winkle John, Luke,

1633
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: I believe we have the tweets to throw up. There's about,

1634
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: you know, eighty six of them over forty eight hours,

1635
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: but essentially coach Winkle John went on National TV and

1636
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: told his side of the story, and John has called

1637
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:12,799
Speaker 1: them everything.

1638
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 3: Question here when he says national TV, does he just

1639
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 3: mean Ariel's show?

1640
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, you know, internet is the

1641
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: new TV of the future, Luke.

1642
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 3: Right, No, No, I understand, I understand what he meant, but

1643
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to clarify, like did he go on

1644
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 3: Oprah or some shit and like I didn't hear or

1645
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 3: whatever like somebody's podcast on Yeah.

1646
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you know, John grew up the same

1647
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: era we did, Luke. Okay, he's you know whatever. But

1648
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 1: Winkle John, who, by the way, if you don't if

1649
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: you were sleeping, said that John Jones can no longer

1650
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: train at their gym after the most recent arrest. Excuse me.

1651
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: John Jones, though, just took coach Greg Jackson and the

1652
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: other assistants and went to a satellite Jim. But Luke

1653
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 1: Jones is very upset and in fact, he is threatening

1654
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: to air winkle John's dirty laundry. Moving forward, just keep

1655
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: playing these tweets in the background. You know, I think

1656
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 1: people are expecting us to tee up the YadA and

1657
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: you to just hammer it. Luke, But what was your

1658
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,480
Speaker 1: reaction to old Boney getting this upset?

1659
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 3: What stage of therapy and getting right with your life

1660
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 3: is assassinating the character of old coaches on social media.

1661
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 3: I don't know what stage of actual therapeutic help that

1662
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 3: one is in and never heard of it. This is

1663
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 3: what I mean. It's like, dude, I don't give a

1664
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 3: fuck about this, honestly, you know, this is like I'm

1665
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 3: not saying that there are no merits to his claim

1666
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 3: or that in every case, if he feels wrong, he

1667
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 3: certainly is allowed as an adult to say what he wants.

1668
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 3: Doesn't look to me like there's a real The guy

1669
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 3: kicked him out of a gym. Let's be clear about this.

1670
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,719
Speaker 3: He kicked him out of or suspended him, or whatever

1671
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 3: the language you want to use. Because John was accused

1672
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 3: by law enforcement of you know, hitting his head, went

1673
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 3: on the car vehicle and then being intoxicated, and there

1674
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:04,759
Speaker 3: were at least some seemingly credible allegations in the course

1675
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 3: of this that he may have put his hands on

1676
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 3: his significant other. And you know you can go from there.

1677
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 3: You can all read the police report and listen to

1678
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 3: the nine to one one call yourself. He is reacting

1679
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 3: to that. I heard Winkle John's interview with Ariel. It

1680
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 3: is about as tepid and reasonable, quite frankly, as a

1681
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 3: person could be in that situation. That's not to say

1682
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,480
Speaker 3: that the totality of anyone's life isn't filled with hypocrisies.

1683
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 3: John could be well right, but it's like, dude, if

1684
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 3: you're out there tweeting about this, like what stage of recovery.

1685
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 4: Is this is?

1686
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 3: This is not anything related to recovery. So you know,

1687
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 3: he's his own man.

1688
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 4: He can do it.

1689
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 3: But I don't care about anything he says until there

1690
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 3: is evidence he actually is taking his situation seriously in

1691
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 3: terms of recovery, and I don't see a shred of

1692
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 3: evidence of that happening.

1693
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 1: Jon's accused Wink of running off every one of Greg

1694
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 1: Jackson's original fighters. I can't think of a Jackson's veteran

1695
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: that still talks with this asshole. But he's still asshole

1696
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 1: has two words as also misspelled O l e. Asshole

1697
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: like the whole ass not the whole but the whole

1698
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: ass which was great. And then he said, look, winks

1699
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: they're supending me from the team. Change nothing, which we

1700
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 1: already knew. Just don't go on TV and pretend to

1701
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,600
Speaker 1: give a shit about someone who has made you so

1702
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: much money over the years, giving you so many world

1703
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 1: championships and then behind closed doors secretly try to crush them.

1704
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,759
Speaker 1: Real douchebag move, Mike. We literally had a convicted rapist

1705
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 1: training on the team for years and now all of

1706
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 1: a sudden, Mike has morals. Get out of here looke

1707
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 1: that part rubbed be the wrong way to be fair.

1708
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: All right, Now we're comparing sins, Luke.

1709
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, what part of recovery is assassinating the character

1710
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 3: of your coach on social media after they kick you

1711
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,480
Speaker 3: out of a gym for your own misconduct?

1712
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 4: Again? This is this is this is just all theater

1713
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 4: and it means nothing.

1714
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 1: Let's say we announced that next week we will have

1715
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: an exclusive one on one interview done by Luke Thomas.

1716
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: Who would be the most which, yes, do you think

1717
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: the fans would be most surprised at I'll give you

1718
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: a list here, Okay. John Jones mm hmmm, Dana White

1719
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 1: mm hmmm. Conor McGregor, you want a young j check

1720
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: which of the four if we announced, Hey, you're not

1721
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: gonna want to miss this exclusive one on one. Luke

1722
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,759
Speaker 1: Thomas sits down with which one would they be most surprised?

1723
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 3: Okay, hold on, let me parse this question a little bit.

1724
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 3: Are you asking which interview would generate the most amount

1725
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 3: of attention? Or are you asking which one as the

1726
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 3: fans read the who's on there, which one would generate

1727
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,520
Speaker 3: the most that could be surprised?

1728
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 1: That could be mutually exclusive depending on the name, But

1729
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:42,799
Speaker 1: both is what I'm asking.

1730
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 3: Probably John Jones, probably probably, But I mean my level

1731
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 3: of interest in talking to him is less than zero.

1732
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 1: So I was hoping for Youanna, really that would.

1733
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 3: Be number two. That would be number two. I also

1734
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 3: have less than zero interest in talking to But yeah,

1735
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 3: probably those two. Dana, Why I she interviewed before and

1736
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 3: you know, a long time ago.

1737
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 1: But ye would you go to bat against Dana and

1738
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: protect me like you failed to do in the face

1739
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: of Josh Thompson.

1740
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 3: Floyd, You are a little soft about that. I didn't

1741
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 3: think you needed, like, you know, you're a big boy.

1742
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 3: You don't need me to like fight your battles for you.

1743
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 1: But if they can get your back. When the punk

1744
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: did that ill timed mom joke, all right, I did

1745
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: get your back. I I mean I left, but I

1746
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: did drive you.

1747
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 3: To the er. Well, they actually kicked you out of

1748
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 3: the er. To your defense, they were like, get the

1749
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 3: fuck out, yell lett preck.

1750
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yellt prick. Speaking of Dana White, Luke, unfortunately he

1751
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: has contracted COVID nineteen. I'm not sure if it's the

1752
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: uh the omnitron version or not. But Luke, he spoke.

1753
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: He spoke to the Jim Rome podcast and he said

1754
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 1: that he did cold plunge and steam every day. And

1755
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: then he picked up his phone. I called one Joe Rogan,

1756
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 1: noted scientists, doctor and COVID expert. And here's the quote

1757
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 1: from Dana. Joe said, as soon as you get up

1758
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 1: in the morning, get tested. So I get up at

1759
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 1: nine on Monday, I get tested. I test positive. He said,

1760
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: get monoclonal antibodies as soon as possible. I did. By noon,

1761
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 1: I had them.

1762
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 2: And then he told me to do an NAD drip.

1763
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 1: I did that. I get up Tuesday getting ready to shave,

1764
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: I clean my razor. I could smell the alcohol. My

1765
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:32,799
Speaker 1: taste and smell were back the next day by eleven am.

1766
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: Then I took a dose of ivor mectin, and then

1767
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 1: I did a vitamin drip, and then today I did

1768
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: another NAD drip. Could not feel any better. Feel like

1769
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: a million bucks. I'm doing two a day workouts, by

1770
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,719
Speaker 1: the way, for the next ten days while I have COVID.

1771
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 1: I'm in quarantine. I can smell and taste, and I

1772
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 1: got him back in less than twenty four hours. End quote, Luke,

1773
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: there should be lines of people now in Austin, Texas

1774
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,799
Speaker 1: lining up outside Joe's studio to get cured. Correct.

1775
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're if you have a ton of money

1776
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 3: and access to unproven drugs.

1777
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:09,879
Speaker 1: By an m ad drip, Luke.

1778
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 3: I'm not entirely sure, you know. Listen, I'll say this

1779
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 3: for data. He's vaccinated, He'll be fine, you know.

1780
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 1: Okay? Should we should we look at this as proof though,

1781
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,719
Speaker 1: that that Joe is a leading expert.

1782
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 3: Yes. We should always look at anecdotal evidence for which

1783
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 3: there is no large scale support as proof of things.

1784
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 4: Because it confirms.

1785
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 3: Our priors, rather than looking at the body of work,

1786
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 3: which shows that much of the stuff that, at least

1787
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 3: in the case of ivermectin it is. There is no

1788
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,560
Speaker 3: good evidence whatsoever that it does anything. The jury is

1789
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 3: still out. We don't really have a full grasp of

1790
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 3: the issue yet, and fairness to it, but there is

1791
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 3: nothing currently that suggests it does anything relate to COVID.

1792
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 2: Thank you, I won't.

1793
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:54,799
Speaker 1: I won't poke the bear anymore.

1794
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 4: Just just listen here, here we go, ready for everyone.

1795
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 4: Just get fucking vaccinated. It's free. What the fuck are you?

1796
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 1: Booster Luke? I feel great.

1797
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got the booster too. It's be like, oh,

1798
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,560
Speaker 3: go good, down, booster. I'm like, motherfucker. Do you know

1799
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 3: what they shot me with when I was in the

1800
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 3: Marine Corps. I don't even know. I've got the anthrax

1801
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 3: vaccine that took three little fucking sticks as well?

1802
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 4: You know, I don't.

1803
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 2: I don't.

1804
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 3: I don't reason some.

1805
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 4: People have this.

1806
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 3: I don't, And it was yeah, you have to get

1807
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 3: the three needles in with the anthrax as well. I

1808
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 3: don't have an irrational fear of vaccines that I dress

1809
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 3: up in political freedom language because I'm an adult, So

1810
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,799
Speaker 3: for other adults out there, just go get your booster

1811
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 3: and quit being a fucking idiot about it. There you go,

1812
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 3: end of story, and Dana is vaccinated, so he'll be fine.

1813
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: Look, you just lost another ten percent of our fan

1814
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,839
Speaker 1: base for that rant. Thank you, good goodbye, good quickly

1815
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: here Luke Felicia Spencer has announced her retirement at age

1816
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,799
Speaker 1: thirty one. The UFC women's featherweight is nine and three overall,

1817
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: was two and three in her last five since twenty nineteen,

1818
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 1: including decision defeats to Amanda Noon and Chris Cyborg in

1819
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 1: separate title bouts. Luke, your reaction or not sorry? The

1820
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 1: the Cyborg was a non title one.

1821
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 2: You get my point?

1822
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,799
Speaker 3: Your reaction to this sea I would say.

1823
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:15,679
Speaker 4: Good for her? Listen.

1824
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 3: Duke Ruffis had a post on an Instagram recently that

1825
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 3: sort of like succinctly put something to think about.

1826
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,600
Speaker 4: The fight game only really works for you if you

1827
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 4: do it spectacularly. Right.

1828
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 3: If you do it spectacularly, either you get a bunch

1829
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 3: of wins or a bunch of money or something there's

1830
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 3: some kind of real spectacular dimension to your career, then

1831
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:36,840
Speaker 3: it can work for you. But if you're anything less

1832
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 3: than that, it just won't. It will be very, very

1833
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:43,879
Speaker 3: brutal on you. She had, Felicia Spencer totally commendable ability.

1834
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 3: I think she's a black belt in jiu jitsu as well,

1835
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 3: but she was also a math teacher. She was not

1836
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 3: doing mma spectacularly. You cannot argue that she was. I

1837
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 3: think she realizes she was not doing it spectacularly. So

1838
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 3: while commendable and high level, it certainly achieved some noteworthy

1839
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 3: things in her life. There was no way this was

1840
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 3: going to go in a spectacular direction. Time to do

1841
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 3: something else in their life. She's obviously quite smart, quite rational.

1842
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 3: I commend her on a great career, and I commend

1843
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,720
Speaker 3: her on whatever she does next. I'm sure she has

1844
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 3: a thoughtful plan for her future.

1845
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 1: Oh that was very well said, Luke. You said, what

1846
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 1: did you say you tend to get?

1847
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 3: I forgot all right, let's just read the odds again

1848
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 3: that I can repeat.

1849
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, at least I just I think I just died

1850
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: one more real quick, Luke. Jeff Neil the UFC Walter

1851
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 1: Away who does return, by the way, or I don't

1852
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 1: know if he will return at UFC two sixty nine

1853
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 1: next week. He spends Thanksgiving in jail after being arrested

1854
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 1: on DWI and weapons chargers in Texas. Luke, Yeah, there

1855
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 1: was a time we thought he was maybe the next

1856
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: big thing at walched Away. This bed a tough run.

1857
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 1: Remember he was working a regular job during COVID and

1858
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 1: then he had had some losses which he wasn't so

1859
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: focused in.

1860
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, I mean sounds like there might be

1861
01:23:58,160 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 3: some problems, you know.

1862
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 1: On the fight card to take on Santiago Ponzinibbio. I

1863
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: don't know if this will pull him off, Luke, since

1864
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: UFC doesn't really have.

1865
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 3: Uh, let me ask YOUBC, let me ask you should

1866
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 3: it like?

1867
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 4: And here's what I mean.

1868
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 3: I'm not saying the UFC has to look at this

1869
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 3: like we are your dads and moms and we're gonna

1870
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 3: punish you.

1871
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 4: I don't mean that way.

1872
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 3: But what I mean is, like, dude, fighting is fucking dangerous.

1873
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 3: And do you want a guy going in there who's

1874
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 3: literally been in uh, you know, a jail cell for

1875
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 3: being drunk? Uh, you know, ten days out from a fight.

1876
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 3: Like do you do you want that? I don't know

1877
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 3: if you want that.

1878
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:36,719
Speaker 1: No, he's gonna have legal fees he's gonna need.

1879
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 4: The money, Luke, that's a dangerous Yeah, you're probably right.

1880
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Look, let's keep the show rolling. Every Friday,

1881
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 1: we do this great little segment. Morning Combat at gmail

1882
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 1: dot com is the email where we stand up to

1883
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,440
Speaker 1: our critics, to our accusers.

1884
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:54,799
Speaker 2: Look, we're not always perfect.

1885
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 1: We speaking to a microphone for sometimes upwards of twelve

1886
01:24:57,720 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 1: hours per week.

1887
01:24:58,439 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 2: We're gonna say some shit that's wrong.

1888
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: You have a chance as the fan to call us

1889
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 1: out on it, but you better give receipts. This segment's

1890
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 1: called dead.

1891
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 4: Uh uh uh uh oh.

1892
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 3: I had to eat a shit sandwich when you were

1893
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 3: gone before.

1894
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 4: Thanks.

1895
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: He did you see that graphic? Just froze, Luke. This's

1896
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 1: a great show today.

1897
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 2: Everything's working out great.

1898
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 1: Yeah right, they were still working right now? All right?

1899
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 3: Are you mad about it? I can't tell.

1900
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, normally that's you who gets very frustrated. I saw

1901
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,799
Speaker 1: your meltdown yesterday and your live chat. Oh god, sorry,

1902
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:34,600
Speaker 1: sorry to see that. I didn't share, Luke. I'm not

1903
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 1: taking pleasure in Listen.

1904
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 3: You do listen. You live a life in public. You're

1905
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 3: gonna live embarrassments in public. And I've been living a

1906
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 3: number of them.

1907
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:44,759
Speaker 2: I've lived in public and private.

1908
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: Look, I've been all over all.

1909
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 2: Right, let's take some l's.

1910
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:51,520
Speaker 1: This one's from Callum on Friday, the twelfth of November.

1911
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: When talking about Canelo's pay per view record, BC once

1912
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 1: again forgets about the one million dollar by rate that

1913
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 1: Canelo produce for his fire against Julio Sesar Chavez Junior,

1914
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: making canal O versus plant Alvarez's fifth high in selling

1915
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: pay per view. BC has done this before, in an

1916
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:14,520
Speaker 1: episode over one year ago where I did wronged him then, Ah,

1917
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: but hey, when you're the American Alpha, stats are for nerds.

1918
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: They are, That's right, what some kind of stat guy?

1919
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, yeah, they are for nerds. I'm sorry,

1920
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 1: I did screw up. I tend to always forget a

1921
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 1: that the Chaves fight happened because Javas Junior just mailed

1922
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 1: that one in and b that it did hit the

1923
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: right fan base and produced one million buys. You know,

1924
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 1: I mean that that that worked out well even though

1925
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: the fight.

1926
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 3: Well, we also know BC that Marlon Marias was a

1927
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:41,679
Speaker 3: previous UFC bantamway champion.

1928
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 4: That's a fact that we'll just live forever. You know what,

1929
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

1930
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,639
Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely all right, let's keep it going. This one's

1931
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: from Christopher from La Wow, my favorite city. Greetings, I've

1932
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 1: got an indisputable dead wrong this week for the King

1933
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 1: of the Donks BC Wow, They're coming at me here, Luke.

1934
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 1: On Friday's episode two twenty eight, around the one hour

1935
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 1: and four minute mark, BC mentions the disgusting sounding RB's

1936
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,719
Speaker 1: French f I flavored vodka. The edibles he took before

1937
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: the show must have finally started to kick in because

1938
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 1: he says that the vodka is quote eight hundred proof. HEYBC,

1939
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: eight hundred proof vodka would literally burst into flames as

1940
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 1: soon as oxygen touched it. I don't even think eight

1941
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: hundred proof is scientifically possible.

1942
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 2: Usually, you silly teenager.

1943
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: And a sixty year old man's body, you must have

1944
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: been referring to the standard eighty proof ABV content that

1945
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 1: we see at the local seven to eleven or anywhere

1946
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 1: that sells fine booze. Of all people to confuse their

1947
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 1: alcohol serving sizes, the last person I'd predict making the

1948
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,799
Speaker 1: mistake would be UBC. Keep up the great work. You guys,

1949
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 1: better drink this shit on air when it's available. Chris

1950
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 1: from LA I take the L there, Chris, all right,

1951
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: I take the l thank you. All right, let's keep it.

1952
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 4: We all have to have the RBS vodka, by the.

1953
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 2: Way, we do on air, no question about it.

1954
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: Jordan slides in at episode two twenty eight at the

1955
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: fourteen minute mark and discussing Max Holloway, closing in on

1956
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 1: three thousand total strikes for his career. BC mentions that

1957
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 1: Max joined the UFC quote as a teenager, BC, You're close,

1958
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 1: but no cigar. Max debuted on February fourth, twenty twelve

1959
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 1: as a short notice replacement for Ricardo Lamis when he

1960
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: was aged twenty and two months against Dustin Puably. We

1961
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 1: and Max lost via mounted triangle arm bar Luke, I

1962
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:30,600
Speaker 1: remember that.

1963
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,679
Speaker 2: I remember he was on. Do you remember that great

1964
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 2: show ESPN in my life? I remember that great business.

1965
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 3: We forget that important.

1966
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was in.

1967
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 2: I was an editor on that show.

1968
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 1: I I edited all the lower the lower third graphics

1969
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,799
Speaker 1: and also, Luke, remember the great Franklin McNeil.

1970
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 3: I was about to say, that's the show that Franklin

1971
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 3: McNeil and Gareth Davies built.

1972
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 1: Do you know who's who's uh, Who's who? Made that

1973
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 1: higher possible. My boss walked by Port, you know, I

1974
01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: got Port. He's like, hey, b C five me and An.

1975
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm like this boxing guy, Franklin McNeill's gray and you

1976
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 1: know the rest is history, Luke, Okay.

1977
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 4: All right, Josh, where is Franklin McNeil these days? Do

1978
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 4: you know?

1979
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 1: You know? I know he was, he was doing some

1980
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 1: editing the last few years, but I think he's transitioning

1981
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: out of the business. You know, he's closer to retirement.

1982
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 2: H and now.

1983
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 1: Always been a big fan of that guy. I loved

1984
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 1: his boxing coverage back in the day and wish him well.

1985
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 1: But Luke, we they had Max Holloway on there when

1986
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 1: he was basically a teenager.

1987
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 2: I remember that early on and that show was awesome.

1988
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 4: It produced.

1989
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 1: Did you think about who that produced, Luke? John Annick,

1990
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 1: Zach Candido. Who's the lead producer on the UFC fight cards,

1991
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,759
Speaker 1: Molly Caram, you know, the the co host of First

1992
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 1: Take Right Seat. Evans made his TV bones there. Kenny

1993
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: Florian used to have Pat Militic come in. Yeah, man,

1994
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 1: oh okay, right, good talking to you. All right, let's

1995
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 1: keep it going here with Cameron says on Monday show.

1996
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: Around the thirty nine minute mark, BC says that Cynthia

1997
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 1: kelv won five fights in twenty seventeen and her first

1998
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 1: four in the UFC. He's dead wrong. She fought five

1999
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: times in twenty seventeen, but her fifth fight was against

2000
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: Carla Esparza, in which she suffered her first loss. That

2001
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 1: was also her fourth fight in the UFC. To clarify,

2002
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: she won four out of five in twenty seventeen and

2003
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: won her first three overall in the UFC. Okay, that's fine,

2004
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: I was wrong, all right.

2005
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 3: So some of these are not that bad. They're just

2006
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 3: sort of minor notes.

2007
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 1: All right, Great, let's go with the final one here

2008
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: or no, not the final one. We'll keep it going.

2009
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 1: This from Mike Ola Luke and BC. I said hi

2010
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 1: in Spanish for Luke. I know he gets a half chubb.

2011
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 1: He gets a half chub whenever he hears that mystical language. Well.

2012
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 1: At two hours and eight minutes of episode two thirty,

2013
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:51,560
Speaker 1: BC pronounces tokays.

2014
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,560
Speaker 3: Tokays tok tokys.

2015
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 1: When referring to the type of hat that should be

2016
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 1: pronounced tokays. It is pronounced toke. It rhymes with smoke,

2017
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 1: as in what the hell was BC smoking. I didn't

2018
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 1: know they sell CT cigars. Please deliver a verbal SmackDown

2019
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 1: and beat some education into him. Love you guys, Mike.

2020
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 3: Yes, sometimes if I touch my wife, you know, when

2021
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 3: she's cooking, and she doesn't go to be bothered.

2022
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 1: She'll be like, no, my tokys, no, my tokys, get

2023
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: off my things.

2024
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like, don't touch me, Yeah, don't touch me.

2025
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 1: That all right? You're trying to get a little spicy

2026
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 1: during the.

2027
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 3: The I don't know shit about the hats though, so

2028
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what the story is there,

2029
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 3: all right?

2030
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 1: Will you catch an HR case if you grab somebody

2031
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 1: in the.

2032
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:37,719
Speaker 3: To case, Luke, if I grab someone in the touches,

2033
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:38,639
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2034
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:41,599
Speaker 1: All right. Wow, we got a lot of dead wrongs here.

2035
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 1: Hopefully people are still watching.

2036
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, you missed, like I mean, I'm sure I've

2037
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:46,719
Speaker 3: got my fair share coming, but you missed like three

2038
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 3: weeks of them that you're overdue. Bro.

2039
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it, all right, Kevin and Matt say.

2040
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,639
Speaker 1: At one hour and nineteen minutes of MK November nineteen.

2041
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 1: Luke says, quote since the year two thousand, in the

2042
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 1: course of eleven years, Jedi Mind Tricks has put out

2043
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 1: ten albums.

2044
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:02,679
Speaker 2: That's almost an album every year.

2045
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 1: Sorry to tell, Luke, but it isn't twenty eleven anymore.

2046
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:14,759
Speaker 1: I guess they're right, Luke, Right, Okay, fair point, Okay,

2047
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 1: take that out.

2048
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 3: Yes, giant fat al for your guy. That's hilarious and

2049
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 3: also quite true.

2050
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:23,560
Speaker 1: Yes, Luke, this one is from David Appleton, our favorite

2051
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:27,639
Speaker 1: rapee French professor. You know this guy, right, Yes, Hi, Luke.

2052
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,639
Speaker 1: A second dead wrong from old French Dave. In your

2053
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 1: Monday show with Oscar you said you couldn't wait till

2054
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 1: Brian came back to have three weeks of dead wrongs.

2055
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 1: I would venture that as he isn't hosting the show,

2056
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,799
Speaker 1: it is hard for us to dead wrong him unless

2057
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 1: you are giving us an open invitation to dead wrong

2058
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 1: his very existence and lifestyle, which could be absolutely fucking amazing.

2059
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:52,559
Speaker 1: Yours pedantically, David A. Does that make any sense, Luke?

2060
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 3: I don't know what the fuck this French frog is

2061
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 3: talking about, so I'll just say this. You're welcome for

2062
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 3: the you know freedom Fries fuckhead, all right?

2063
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 1: He woke up with many a student in his bed, Luke.

2064
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 1: The problem is they were bound in chain. That's a problem.

2065
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep this going. This from Jordan at

2066
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 1: one forty one of episode two thirty four, and have

2067
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,600
Speaker 1: you seen the shit Ryan flipped the two fighters in

2068
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 1: the Suplex highlight Soriano versus nord end Bike. It was

2069
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 1: the Chinese fighter nord end Bak who Supplex Soriano, not

2070
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 1: the other way around. Okay, I'll take that out.

2071
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 4: That's fine, right, that's fair. That's fair.

2072
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 1: And finally, Luke, this one's from David the donk from

2073
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: the shithole that is New Zealand. That's his words. By

2074
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 1: the way, At thirty one minutes of the Monday Weekend

2075
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 1: recap the Big BC with the BD incorrectly said Luke

2076
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 1: Thomas has a city kicking boner from here to Adelaide.

2077
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 1: The problem is Adelaide is in Australia. You donk Auckland

2078
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 1: would have been the better option, since that is where

2079
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 1: CKB is actually based. Okay, that's fair.

2080
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 3: All right, that's I mean, that's not so much you're wrong,

2081
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:03,680
Speaker 3: but that's a better way to say it.

2082
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 4: I think I think he is right about that.

2083
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 1: It's just a play on board. Yeah with it. Okay,

2084
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 1: but he does have a very big CKB. There's no

2085
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 1: question Luke loves those guys. All right, thank you for

2086
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 1: sending those in Morningcombat at gmail dot com. Some people

2087
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 1: still don't know how we do it on the show.

2088
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 1: Maybe we have new listeners. But if you want to

2089
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 1: do a DM from Donk on Monday, guys Sunday night

2090
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 1: on Instagram, we put that post out. You have to

2091
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 1: reply to the Instagram post at Morning Combat every Sunday night.

2092
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:34,680
Speaker 1: That's DM from Donks. Everything else Morningcombat at gmail dot

2093
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 1: com don't DM us. I'm not taking your submissions that

2094
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:37,759
Speaker 1: way anymore.

2095
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 3: All right, No, no, no, stick, Luke.

2096
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:44,679
Speaker 1: We close every Friday by touching the tips, telling people

2097
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 1: what to look out for this weekend. We call it

2098
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: just the.

2099
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 3: Tip, tip to tip, just tips some ship.

2100
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 1: Oh they're not going to play the intro because the

2101
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 1: the files are acting up with oh there we go.

2102
01:34:58,640 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, there we go.

2103
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 4: They got it. They got it?

2104
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, you know what do you got this week?

2105
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 1: What should people be on the lookout?

2106
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 5: Uh?

2107
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:07,640
Speaker 3: Well, I'll give you my tip and then I have

2108
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 3: a question for you BC. Okay, so here's my tip.

2109
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 3: I finally, finally, finally, finally went to the movie theater

2110
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 3: for the first time in two years. I hadn't gone

2111
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:20,440
Speaker 3: since the pandemic, and I saw the new Marvel movie Eternals.

2112
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 3: Here's my tip, do not fucking see this piece of

2113
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 3: shit movie. This is unequivocally and I have Disney Plus

2114
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 3: and I've seen them all. This is the worst Marvel

2115
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 3: movie of them all, and by a considerable distance. Right,

2116
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:37,679
Speaker 3: it's two hours and forty minutes, and it doesn't need

2117
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 3: to be. There are parts of it that are interestingly

2118
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 3: shot and presented, but in general it doesn't need to

2119
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:43,600
Speaker 3: be as long as it is.

2120
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 4: It's the first problem.

2121
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 3: Second problem is none of the characters are especially interesting,

2122
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 3: and the ones who are kind of die basically. On

2123
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:55,719
Speaker 3: top of that, the villains in this movie are poorly

2124
01:35:56,200 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 3: thought out and not interesting. The plot is extremely convolution

2125
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 3: or just unnecessarily loaded with nonsense that doesn't need to

2126
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:06,519
Speaker 3: be there. There are characters that don't need to be there.

2127
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 3: And the worst part it went not the worst part,

2128
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 3: but one of the stupider parts, is like, dude, the

2129
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 3: whole part about the Marvel universe and comic books is,

2130
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 3: of course you want to get to see different kinds

2131
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 3: of people and different kinds of powers, and different kinds

2132
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,600
Speaker 3: of worlds, including one on our own. This is not

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Speaker 3: in any way an anti diversity argument. In fact, it's

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Speaker 3: quite the opposite. When Black Panther came out and they

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Speaker 3: built this world of Wakanda who had this vibranium, and

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Speaker 3: they kept it to themselves and they shielded it from

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Speaker 3: the world, and it totally produces interesting people. And then

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Speaker 3: they brought you into that world and into that life.

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Speaker 3: It was fucking amazing. Black Panther is a great Marvel movie.

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Speaker 3: It's fantastic even right, I can't recommend it more. If

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Speaker 3: you haven't seen it, go check it out. It's phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: But this one was not that. This one seemed to

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01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 3: me like they had a studio executive team being like,

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Speaker 3: you know what, we got to make sure that we're

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Speaker 3: especially making sure we like shove, like we want to

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01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 3: make diversity a part of the cast in such a

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01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:02,879
Speaker 3: way that were fulfilling studios needs, not like the creative

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Speaker 3: ambition of the actual story.

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Speaker 4: And so they've.

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Speaker 3: Thrust together a cast that has no chemistry whatsoever because

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Speaker 3: they're trying to be as like the maximally diverse in

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01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:19,640
Speaker 3: the most inauthentic of ways, and it just fails miserably

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Speaker 3: the entire time.

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Speaker 4: Dude, this movie sucked.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it sucked like Man of Steel sucked,

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01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 3: or like Batman versus Superman sucked, but it sucked.

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Speaker 4: It is a.

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Speaker 3: Complete waste of your time. Do not go now, b C.

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Speaker 3: With that in mind, I do have a question for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: my daughter, who you might hear rampaging like Godzilla through

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01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 3: the streets of Tokyo behind me, has never been to

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Speaker 3: a movie theater. This new movie that is out from Disney,

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01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 3: which is really well reviewed, which takes place in you know,

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01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 3: the version of Columbia called Encanto. It is getting it's

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Speaker 3: getting rave reviews. My family wants to go. My daughter's

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01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 3: two and a half. Do you think think that's a

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01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 3: good idea? Can she handle an hour and forty minutes

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Speaker 3: of a movie without ruining it and shitting her pants?

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Speaker 1: It's about a fifty to fifty. It really is like

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Speaker 1: you have to be prepared that that one of you

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01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 1: will spend the whole time outside or whatever, or that

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01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 1: she'll be screaming randomly because it's dark and she's scared.

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01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:21,640
Speaker 1: That's an age where you're you're gambling. I mean you

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Speaker 1: might be depending on your child. You're gambling almost as

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Speaker 1: high as age four and five in the movie theater.

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Speaker 2: You know, some just stick to it like water luke, Right,

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Speaker 2: But I think it's worth the gamble.

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Speaker 1: Your family loves Latin American based Disney cartoon movies.

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Speaker 2: Loves that shit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, we don't. We watch Cocoa in Spanish here.

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Speaker 3: We don't even watch it in English. Woh that's hard, right,

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Speaker 3: But dude, I told you so.

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Speaker 1: Hold on.

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Speaker 3: Last thing I'm saying this is are they There's this

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Speaker 3: traveling like van Go exhibit that's going city to city

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01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 3: and we bought tickets with us. We had to buy tickets.

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01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 3: It was like months in advance and it was finally here.

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Speaker 3: We took our daughter.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 3: She ruined the whole shit, I mean just ruined it

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01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 3: for us, screaming, crying, shitting, throwing. We couldn't enjoy any

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Speaker 3: part of the exhibit.

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Speaker 4: We had to leave. It was a nightmare.

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01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 3: So now I'm like, do we take like? Because what

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01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 3: I want is for her first big screen movie experience.

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01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 3: I want it to be incanto. But I have a

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Speaker 3: feeling that it ain't gonna be so we'll.

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Speaker 1: Say I grew up going to the movie theaters in Waterbury, Connecticut, Luke,

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01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:21,760
Speaker 1: which is, you know, far from the nicest city in

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01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 1: the world, and going to, like, you know, as a teenager,

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01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:28,919
Speaker 1: horror movies at midnight, and people bringing their newborn babies

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Speaker 1: to those and like them on the back, like come on,

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01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 1: like if your kid, if you know your kids not ready,

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01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:36,639
Speaker 1: do not bring them to the theater at all. Okay,

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01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 1: just wait, why we have big screen TVs and DVRs and.

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01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 2: All that crap.

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01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 1: All right, that's my service, miss hey. I got it

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01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 1: in the moment, dead wrong here, Luke, we can save

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01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 1: for next week. Our producer, Mikey Mormle has corrected me.

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01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 1: I forgot that Aspin Lad had already moved up to featherweight,

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01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 1: made her debut against Norma Dumont in October, and it's

2212
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 1: now coming back down to banna wait for the threat

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01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 1: of fighting me should take all right, Luke. My tip

2214
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:04,439
Speaker 1: is probably what people are talking a lot about these days,

2215
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 1: the very well acclaimed Peter Jackson Get Back documentary series

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01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 1: on Disney Plus. So if you don't know what this is,

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01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 1: here's the deal. When the Beatles went to the studio

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01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty nine to try to record and write

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01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 1: songs for what became the album Let It Be. There

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01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 1: was a documentary crew filming every bit of it. It

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01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 1: ended up becoming when the recording fell apart, an album

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01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 1: that came out a year later after they had already

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01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 1: broken up, and it turned into a documentary of the

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01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 1: same name that was okay but not great. Well, Peter

2225
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 1: Jackson and company have gone back and found every piece

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01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 1: of footage from that session and turned it into.

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Speaker 2: A three part, eight hour documentary.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the deal. If you are a Beatles hardcore

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01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 1: like myself, like Luke Thomas and I've talked about in

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01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:53,880
Speaker 1: the past, this could be for you. If you are,

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01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:57,280
Speaker 1: this is in very much some inside look at the

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01:40:57,320 --> 01:40:59,679
Speaker 1: band that we've never really seen at this level before.

2233
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:02,880
Speaker 1: Of this shoot have come out before, whether it be

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01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:05,320
Speaker 1: the Let It Be doc or even the Beatles anthology

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01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 1: documentary series that came out, but not at this detail,

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01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,440
Speaker 1: at this length. So you get to see in reality

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01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 1: TV voyeurism, an inside look at the dynamics between band

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01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:18,720
Speaker 1: members as the band was falling apart because George was

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01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 1: rising as a.

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Speaker 2: Songwriter and wanted more. You know opportunity.

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01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:25,600
Speaker 1: Paul was kind of, you know, the leader, and he

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01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 1: was very prolific, but maybe not letting George get his

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01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 1: cut of the pie. John was in and out and

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01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,479
Speaker 1: unreliable and was not getting along with everybody. You get

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01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 1: to see the dynamics between them and Yoko. It's a

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01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:39,679
Speaker 1: very interesting look, but it is for hardcorees only. It's long.

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01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm only about a third of the way through it,

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01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 1: and even I at times have to bite down and focus.

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01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 1: But Luke, for a band that you know, has had

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01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 1: a million things written and shot and produced about them,

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01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,679
Speaker 1: this is like a almost like a relic in time

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01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 1: that at this level has never really been swam through.

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01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean that the audio tracks haven't been

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01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 1: out before you could buy, you know, at bootleg record

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01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 1: stores the full get get Back or let it be sessions,

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01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 1: but never connecting it to the video like this, at

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01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:13,639
Speaker 1: this production level, it is such a fascinating look because

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01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 1: let's remember this was you know, a year before they

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01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:19,560
Speaker 1: broke up, when tensions were high and the marriage was dissolving.

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01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:23,520
Speaker 1: I could not recommend it more if you are hardcore

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01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:27,640
Speaker 1: and that's your THINGU.

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01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,759
Speaker 4: Do you know? Questlove the drummer for the band The Roots.

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01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 3: Yes, he has been raving about it on social media,

2264
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:36,120
Speaker 3: like as an insight into how quickly sometimes the most

2265
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 3: inspired Beatles songs came together and then all it was

2266
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 3: were sort of tortured. They took forever, and.

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01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean you can watch Paul when they're like, you know,

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01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 1: they're finishing lunch and he's got a guitar and he's

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01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 1: just kind of figuring something out and you're like, wait,

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01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 1: let's get back, or that's you know, the long and

2271
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,640
Speaker 1: winding road on piano, like that's crazy, and then you

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01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:54,519
Speaker 1: watch them kind of figure it out in the moment,

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01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 1: and you know, there's been a lot of rumors that

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01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 1: during that time John and Yoko were heroin addicts, and

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01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 1: John toss degree has confirmed that years later.

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01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 2: But it's a very interesting portrait.

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01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 1: It doesn't make Yoko look as bad as a reputation

2278
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:08,680
Speaker 1: is for breaking up the band quote unquote, but it's

2279
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 1: an interesting look at where John was emotionally luke, which

2280
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:13,679
Speaker 1: was it didn't seem to be in a great place.

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01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 3: Well, I haven't watched the documentary, but you're not the

2282
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:19,200
Speaker 3: first person to say that it's if you're a Beatles

2283
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 3: fan or a music fan that it's must watch. And

2284
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:24,799
Speaker 3: Peter Jackson, he doesn't do anything that's not of epic scale,

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01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:26,479
Speaker 3: So I trust your recommendation here.

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01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even the parts because they have the audio,

2287
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 1: but it doesn't always match up with the video. But

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01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 1: they did a great job of taking video that isn't perfect,

2289
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 1: but it looks like they could be having that conversation.

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01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:40,320
Speaker 1: So it's it's really brilliantly you know, edited and produced

2291
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 1: in that way. So cool man telling the story of

2292
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:46,839
Speaker 1: the tail end of you know, really the most successful, greatest.

2293
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:48,680
Speaker 1: But look, what's your favorite Beatles album? We need to

2294
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:51,240
Speaker 1: do a pull out specially.

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01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:55,759
Speaker 4: Jesus.

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01:43:55,800 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 3: That's a tough one. I'm tempted. I'm tempted to say

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01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 3: Sergeant Pepper's.

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01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 1: Don't you don't actually mean that though, see that disappointed me,

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01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 1: Luke the only time, the only way I think.

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01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 3: But I'm not, like, I'm not as far inside on

2301
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 3: Beatles Mania as you are, you know. So there's that

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01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 3: I feel like some white album, maybe the White album.

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01:44:17,200 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 1: That's that's I think there's three acceptable answers if you

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01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,120
Speaker 1: if you know your shit, the White album because of

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01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 1: the volume of it, Abbey Road because it's you know, immaculate,

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01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 1: and it was their last time in the studio together.

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01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 1: Or Revolver, which some people like Rolling Stone have even

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01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:35,600
Speaker 1: ranked as the greatest album in rock history. You know,

2309
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 1: you can have a favorite or whatever, but Sergeant Pepper

2310
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 1: was really of its time. Luke, if you were alive

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01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 1: in sixty seven when it came out and you realize

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01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:43,720
Speaker 1: how much it changed music, I think it could be

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01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 1: your favorite. But I don't think it holds up on

2314
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 1: a five star level like people think. But that's maybe

2315
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 1: another nerd debate for another time. Let's put this show

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01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 1: to bed, Luke. That's all we got for you on Friday, right.

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01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, email us morning Combat at gmail dot com. Give

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01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:01,320
Speaker 3: us some follows on the old socials. Morning Combat is

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01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:04,639
Speaker 3: involved everywhere. There will be some weekend content for you,

2320
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 3: something special for the Gravante Davis fight, so be on

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01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:12,720
Speaker 3: the lookout for that, which again Sunday. Gravante fights on Sunday. Yeah,

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01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 3: that is for me.

2323
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 1: Headis versus Horror Gucci tonight, ten pm Eastern only on

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01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 1: Showtime Bellatore two seventy two. Very good fight. Do not

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01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 1: miss it. Thank you to our wonderful staff who have

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01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:26,559
Speaker 1: swam in the rough, choppy waters of internet failures and

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01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 1: other issues.

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01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 2: We love you.

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01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 1: You can get thirty days free of Showtime of course

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01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 1: at showtime dot com. Thank you to our listeners who

2331
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:34,759
Speaker 1: really go to bat for us on a regular basis.

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01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:36,840
Speaker 1: They'll call us out when we need it, Luke. But

2333
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:40,679
Speaker 1: there they are. Some loyal p one drive across the country,

2334
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,400
Speaker 1: show up with a bag full of beef jerky that

2335
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:46,599
Speaker 1: they made in their meth lab to give personally to you, Luke.

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01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:51,799
Speaker 3: They they're not yes men, but they they are are

2337
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 3: are They tell us what we need to hear when

2338
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 3: we need to hear it said.

2339
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:56,400
Speaker 4: Thank you, even if it's tough.

2340
01:45:56,439 --> 01:46:00,600
Speaker 1: Love nothing without you. That's about all. Tip your waitesses,

2341
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 1: may all your ex lovers stay satisfied.

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01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 3: We