1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Coming to you from fabulous Las Vegas. The right side 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: is the winning side. The late move is the correct move. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Sports betting capital of the world. We all know when 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: a sharp like me weighs in the lines move, it's 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: a party for your ears. This is the buffet with 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: Chad and Scooch. I want to buy that guy at buffet. 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: This is the buffet with Chad and Scooch. Massive, massive 8 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: show today because we're in the middle of NBA playoffs 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: and we posted a story on the Action Network yesterday 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: that has blown up a little bit by our own 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: legendary degenerate slash writer slash editors slash Everyone's favorite better 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: uh Stucky, in which he posted seven props that he 13 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: wishes he could see on a board and that he 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: has asked the Twitter verse to take the other side 15 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: on He's already getting. He's already gotten a ton of action, 16 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: everything from like free throw shooting contests to you know, 17 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: when will the sixteen be to one again? To will 18 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: those the Patriots win the Super Bowl the next three years. 19 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: He's gonna come on on a little bit with Lauren Joffey. 20 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: They're gonna talk about those props, other props they'd like 21 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: to see. You can join us on our iTunes page 22 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: at the Buffet the Buffet page for iTunes. Um we 23 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: want you to do this week. You can put in 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: your rates, your ratings, and your reviews. But we want 25 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: you to do this week is post your favorite prop 26 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: that ever with a friend and the winner chosen by 27 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: a very subjective group of me and Mike Ronnell and 28 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: our other producer, Matt Mitchell. We will give you a 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: free subscription to the Action Network. So go on to 30 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: the Buffet iTunes page, post your favorite prop bet with 31 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: a friend, tell the story, we will choose the winner. 32 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: You'll get a free subscription. But first, but when we 33 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: get to you all of that, my guests worldwide, wob Twitter, 34 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: NBA Sensation Talent Extraordinaire, rab Perez from Cyclomedia. What's going on? Man? Hey? 35 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: So I have my own friend prop bet. I guess 36 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: I can share with you now that you just brought 37 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: it up. One of my best friends from home. Uh 38 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: is a die hard, the only die hard Brooklyn Nets fan, 39 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: all the way back to the Jersey Nets days. Like 40 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: we've gone to war Nick's versus Nets since as long 41 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: as we've known each other. And he was adamant. This 42 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: was the year that the Nets would come back and 43 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: they make the playoffs and they'd overachieve, and I go, 44 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: I will bet you that they don't win thirty games 45 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: this year. And this was before the over under came 46 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: out in Vegas, so I he's not he's not as 47 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: well educated in knowing what the number was gonna pay, 48 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: so I inflated it a little bit. But the number 49 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: was thirty, and the bet was this. The bet was 50 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: if the Nets win more than thirty games, so it 51 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: was really thirty would be a push. If they win 52 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: more than thirty games, meaning thirty one or more. I 53 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: will publicly admit on Buckets our show that I lost 54 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: this bet to you and I doubted the Nets. But 55 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: if they don't, I get to take your phone and 56 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: I get the text anyone that I want from your phone, 57 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: and he took it and they home. I think they 58 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: only got the win and I haven't. I haven't cashed 59 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: in my bet yet, but I'm kind of just It's 60 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: that scene from Family Guy where Stewie's like, or Brian's 61 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you back. You don't know when it's coming, 62 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: and Stewie is the entire episode is like tweaking out 63 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: because he's worried about it. So I've just been holding 64 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: it over his head that one in these days, I'm 65 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: gonna cash in this bet. And I know exactly who 66 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm texting. Da. I was gonna say, you know exactly, 67 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: you know where the text is, and you know where 68 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: it's going, you know what's going to stay from day one. Yeah, 69 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: that I gotta say. That has become a thing that 70 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: you've got to be so careful. So I have a 71 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: similar prop bet, which I've talked about the podcast before, 72 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: but me and my best friend Matt, every year we 73 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: will do, you know, with the pick Um contest on 74 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: ESPN dot com, and we'll pick every year every NFL 75 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: game against the spread. And at the end of the year, uh, 76 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: the loser Um is sent second place trophies and you 77 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: can send his. I mean, ultimately the winner ends up 78 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: losing out because the winner ends up spending so much 79 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: money on trophies, but you don't care because it's all 80 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: about pride. And so I have sent him. I've won 81 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: the past four years and like in crushing embarrassing, like 82 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: I don't even know why he plays anymore fashion and 83 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: I will send these trophies that are just like worst 84 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: loss in a week and pick them history, biggest loss 85 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: in a season in pick him history, and I will 86 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: send four or five trophies. One year, I sent a 87 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: four foot trophy that needed to be put together that 88 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: I uh called his wife and made his kids put 89 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: together with him as like a weekend project. Um, it's 90 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: so hetty, but so like the meaner it can be 91 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: the better, right, So one year we were actually uh 92 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: he and I went to Oxford, Mississippi. We went to 93 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: spend the weekend with Right Thompson, who was a writer 94 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: for ESPN and a lot of people know who he is. 95 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: Writes really great stories. So we went down to spend 96 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: the weekend with him, and you go to visit Right, 97 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be like food and moonshine involved. And 98 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: we ended up at some party and there was homemade 99 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: coconut moonshine that tasted better than anything you've ever had 100 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: in your entire life. Honest to god, this was so good. 101 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: And you know, me and my buddy, two Northerners, are 102 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: sitting there in the kitchen of this party, and like 103 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: before you know it, this moonshine is gone. And we 104 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: are spinning like you wouldn't believe the most of it is. 105 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: It is like it is ugly, right, Like we end 106 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: up at Right's house like God knows when, and I've 107 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: got one ft on the floor, one ft on the out, 108 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: just trying to keep myself steady. And uh, I keep 109 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: hearing my buddy giggling and he I look up finally 110 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: and he's at the kitchen counter and he's like in hysterics. 111 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: He's laughing so hard because he was going into Facebook, 112 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: and like he got my phone and was going into Facebook, 113 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: just writing random things on the pages of people that 114 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: hadn't seen since high school. Since high school, like, oh 115 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: my god, Bobby, you look amazing. It looks like you're 116 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: really working out. I love the pictures that you're showing 117 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: on the beach with your family. That's so great, Like 118 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: all these things of people that I haven't spoken to 119 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: and God knows how long. Uh, And so I am 120 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm fearful for your friend. That's that's a good way 121 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: to end the story right there. Yeah, you know what 122 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: the purpose of the story is. I'm fearful, but yeah 123 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: he should be. Really, that's the vitey of these prop 124 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: that's like they are so much fun and it's what's 125 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: sort of it's the magic of what Stucky captured and 126 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: what he'll come on and talk about later on the 127 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: podcast is like, Um, the more inventive and creative you 128 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: can get, the more fun it is. And sometimes it's 129 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: not even the money that matters, right, It's like, that's 130 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: what I want people to write about when people submit 131 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: on the iTunes paid for the buffet, Like submit what 132 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: the stakes were, because the stakes are always better when 133 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: it's not money, because then it's something that's sort of 134 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: makes people laugh and there's a lot of humiliation involved, 135 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: and who doesn't Who doesn't like humiliation? I wonder if 136 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: you one day you could bet Vegas without money? Could 137 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: you bet room nights? Could you bet buffets? But like 138 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: what would the what would the transaction be from the customer? 139 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: Would it be money or would it be a service? 140 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: Like you maybe that's maybe it's like it's like you 141 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: can bet the big is like you know, it's it's 142 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: a ten percent vigue or um you're getting Like you 143 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: can you can bet money or you can bet to 144 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: get paid in a buffet that is worth like the 145 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: cost of your bet plus the payback, you know what 146 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: I mean, And go ahead. I was gonna say, I'd 147 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: be interested to see a bet that you become like 148 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: a casino act in the way that if your bet loses, 149 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: you have to spend one hour in this tank that 150 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: is just in the middle of Las Vegas Boulevard with 151 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: branding on it, and you spend sixty minutes in there 152 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: if you lose, and then you come back out after 153 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 1: you're done. But if you win, you get free tickets 154 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: to circuit. So late tonight you doubt you know, like 155 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: this is the box of shame? Are you willing to 156 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: rest the box of shame? Here's the thing, here's the thing. 157 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: Most people go in to Vegas would love to be 158 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: in that box on the strip exactly. That's why I 159 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: would get so many bets and be great for publicity. 160 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: That is said, until someone makes a big deal out 161 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: of it and says that, like what you're doing is 162 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: shameful and that's that's the age we live in. But 163 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 1: you would make them sign a waiver that says I 164 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: am willing to do this. I'm willing to be shamed. Also, 165 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: I feel like in Vegas, like the Twitter rules are 166 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: suspended sort of everything that is fearful outside of Vegas. 167 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: Um is one d okay in Vegas that I will 168 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: agree with that that if something happens in Vegas, it 169 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: is outside the realm of culture. You signed up for it. 170 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: You're in Vegas, You're on your own. I once went 171 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: to Vegas UM for my bachelor party and going out 172 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: that night, my friends like, we're all getting ready to 173 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: go to dinner and stuff, and my friends, as I'm 174 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: walking into the room on one of the rooms, they're like, hey, 175 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: you look great tonight. I'm like thanks, and they're like, 176 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: but that's not what you're wearing. And they break out 177 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: a full on, one piece polyester Elvis jumpsuit with an 178 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: Elvis wig and Elvis glasses and made me wear it 179 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: the entire night that I was in Vegas and greatest 180 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: night of my entire life. Did you get any tours 181 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: coming up there trying to take pictures with you? And 182 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: that's at one point, um, one of the dealers asked 183 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: me to get up and dance when I was at 184 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: a blackjack table, which I did. I did an Elvis impersonation. UM, Well, 185 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: if we were inclined to go to a strip club 186 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: for my bachelor party. I would tell you that, Um, 187 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: when we went outside to get a cab, we would 188 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: have gotten a free ride in a limo if we 189 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: were inclined to go to a strip club where if 190 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: there was a line, then we were given uh first 191 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: entry because we did not have to wait because I 192 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: was Elvis. I think you just spawned the idea here 193 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: of a new podcast that needs to happen, whether it's 194 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: with you or someone that maybe has an arsenal of 195 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: stories just called Vegas Tales, Tales from the Vegas crypt 196 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: or something that it's just every episode is a different story, 197 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: the same way that book Chicken Soup for the Soul 198 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: back in the nineties was out. It was like the 199 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: feel good story. We had a Chicken Soup for the 200 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: Vegas Soul, but not good stories, but like the funny, 201 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: the more self deprecating stories that ended up on a 202 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: Spike TV episode of Jail. We are one step ahead 203 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: of you, my friend, because we are doing that podcast 204 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: with black Jack Fletcher. He's, uh, we're developing as we speak. 205 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: You're like on top of it. You're like, don't think. Yeah, Um, 206 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: speaking of genius, you have uh you know, worldwide web 207 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: Rob Prez that is the guest in the podcast. Probably 208 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: UM one of the most influential NBA follows on Twitter, 209 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: and NBA Twitter is probably one of most influential things 210 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: in all of Twitter, and your rise to sort of 211 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: dominance as an NBA fan turned NBA connoisseur towarned n 212 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: B a talent professional has largely been marked by your 213 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: success on Twitter. I need you to break this down 214 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: for people, because I don't think people truly get like all, 215 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, if they're following you, they see sort of 216 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: how active you are and sort of the sensibility that 217 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: you have explained to people how this happened, how Worldwide 218 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: Web developed, also explained to people like if they're not 219 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: in the know, um, what the worldwide WOB is sort 220 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: of in homage to UM, and give people the back 221 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: story on how this happened. Well, yeah, I get asked 222 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: a lot where I thought of the name Worldwide. West 223 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: was a power broker, influencer, agent, marketer type from the 224 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: early to mid two thousand's that was involved with Lebron 225 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: James and all the all the major stars at the time, 226 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: and I always just loved how he was this behind 227 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: the scenes kind of dude that was controlling the NBA. 228 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: Every every story that leaked, every business transaction that happened, 229 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: always went back to Worldwide West. As you know, fingerprints 230 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: were on top of it. So Worldwide West is the 231 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: worldwide part, and then the lab part is just my 232 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: fifth grade girlfriend from elementary school couldn't purnounce the letter 233 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: R correctly, so it always sounded like Wob. So people 234 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: called me Wob at the end of elementary school, through 235 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: middle school, high school, and so on and so on. 236 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: So it just became Worldwidwide was That's the reason why 237 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: that name exists in the first place. Uh. And as 238 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: for the actual personality itself, honestly, there was never a 239 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: what's the what's the Yodel kids name? Gordon Ramsey? I 240 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: think that the chef guy Mason Ramsey Mason Ramsey. So 241 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: I didn't have my Yodel Walmart moment where you know, 242 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: the ken bone debate moment where you just hockey stick overnight. 243 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: Maybe part I can attribute part of the success of 244 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: what we've built to this point, as it's been just 245 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: a slow drip from as far back as I can remember. 246 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: I've always just watched the NBA as a fan and 247 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: I've wanted to share watching it as a fan different 248 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: than how other fans currently watch it. So you have 249 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: fans that are very much into the XS and oh, 250 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: so you know what what's a flex cut, What's what's 251 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,359 Speaker 1: an elevator screen? You know, there's there's there's a conversation 252 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: to be had there, and then there's you know, the 253 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: bar kind of conversation where you're just talking about who's 254 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: better mj or Lebron. I wanted to I kind of 255 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: the medium there, and while I'm still giving hot takes, 256 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: I do want to show the league through a lens 257 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: that was never seen before. So if that is unnecessary 258 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: drama or pettiness that happens on the court, things like 259 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: bench mobs, things like crossovers and dunks, I really wanted 260 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: to flash a spotlight on that. And when I was 261 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: getting started in app called Vine came around in two 262 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: thousand and twelve, I thing two thousand eleven, whenever the 263 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: hell that came out, and it gave me the ability 264 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: to show the world what it is. I was talking 265 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: about this entire time, and granted I didn't really have 266 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: them many followers. It was again very very slow coming in, 267 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: but I knew when I got the opportunity for one 268 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: thing to take off, I would have this massive portfolio 269 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: of stuff to show someone willing to give me a shot. 270 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: So when that moment did come, I had thousands and 271 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of words ready to go to show 272 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: anyone giving willing to give me a chance on a 273 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: freelance type a contract. Vine really was the start of 274 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: being able to illustrate my opinions. And then Periscope came 275 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: out in twenty maybe and that permitted me to kind 276 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: of do a live interaction with the fan base. So 277 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: I've always just looked forward to what's the next thing 278 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: that hasn't Someone hasn't planted their flag, their flag on 279 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: the space yet. Zach Loow someone that will always dominate 280 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: the excess and those conversation. Well respected voice has established 281 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: himself over the better part of a decade. You know, 282 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: I want to plant my flag on the space of 283 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: watching the game as a fan, and I'm going to 284 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: continue to stick to that until it breaks. And so 285 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: tell me about your fandom, Like how did you you 286 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: mentioned your Knicks fan? I know you grew up outside 287 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: New York, Like, explain to people how you came to this, 288 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: how you came to this game, You're you're talking about 289 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: the where I'm at now with the show or just 290 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: how I'm such a case, such a big NDA fan. 291 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So, I mean my dad and mom met 292 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: at NBC Sports. They were in just sales, you know, 293 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: media sales, ad sales at the time, and that's when 294 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: NBC had every sport. They had like the World Series, 295 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: at every NBA game under the sun. Uh So we 296 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: ended up going to a bunch of games just because 297 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: tickets were available when I was a little kid. So 298 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: I grew up, just grew up outside New York, became 299 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: a huge Knicks fan. I even went to Market Square 300 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: Arena Game six Indianapolis, the game where Spike Lee showed 301 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: up to after getting the choke sign from Reggie Miller. 302 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: You know that, that whole deal. So just being a 303 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: part of that whole nineties basketball, I never missed a 304 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: game like I was. I was obsessed with it. And 305 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: then going to North Carolina Chapel Hill. They have good 306 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: somewhat decent basketball team there. Basketball has just always kind 307 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: of been in my blood. And then when the NBA 308 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: kind of transitioned out of the nineties and there was 309 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: that that lull the early two thousands where you know, 310 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: ratings weren't good and it wasn't really talked about as 311 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: a prominent sport that much anymore. Then social media came 312 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: around and just this culture developed when I was coming 313 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: out of college, if you all to the middle to 314 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: end of the two thousands, where it just became this 315 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: basketball professional basketball kind of became the sports religion, and 316 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: it's just sucked me in ever since. It really is 317 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: the kind of sport though, And we talked about this 318 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: a lot in sort of any form of media that 319 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: is so progressive and I don't mean any of this 320 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: in a political way, like it is. It is progressive 321 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: and inclusive in the way it embraces fandom and to 322 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: bring it back to what you were saying earlier, the 323 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: way it allows people to manipulate highlights and post them 324 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: in various social media and sort of enjoy being passionate 325 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: about the athleticism and the cookiness and sort of the 326 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: great plays me makes people feel more passionate about it 327 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: creates a virtuous cycle there, and they've been really good 328 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: about about emboldening people to do all that. Yeah, that's 329 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: that is what has taken the NBA fast forward to 330 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, current time, just the ability to engage with 331 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: the league on and off the court. So what does 332 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: the NBA have advantage of over other sports when it 333 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: comes to marketing NBA players, they don't wear helmets and 334 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: they don't wear masks. Hockey, baseball, football, they all wear 335 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: helmets and mass it's hard to see their face when 336 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: you're watching, you know, the broadcast, and just being able 337 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: to experience those emotions and seeing the way lebron K 338 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: d and all these stars react in real time. H 339 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: is an experience that is not only something amazing live, 340 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: but it's the reason why ratings continue to go up. 341 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: Is there's some sort of human element to it. And 342 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: that's just one checkbox, you know. The second is they 343 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: allow there. I shouldn't say they allow, but they're very 344 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: open to sharing content on social media, whether you know, 345 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: you pay for the licensing rights or not. And I'm 346 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: referring to bootleg type of highlights and mash up videos 347 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. They see there's no right or 348 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: wrong when it comes to this business mentality. But the 349 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: NBA is on the end of the spectrum that is, okay, 350 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: you're bootlegging, are our games and our product, but you're 351 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: sharing it and that gets other people to watch the program. 352 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: The other end of the spectrum is we own this content. 353 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: We want to monetize every single eyeball on it. But 354 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: what happens is you shut down accounts that are trying 355 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: to share the content because it doesn't come from the 356 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: main source, and therefore you don't have so many people 357 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: talking about it. Again, there's no right or wrong way 358 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: to do the business. But if you want it to 359 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: become talked about and everything, just go completely viral as 360 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: to the Instagram like that Kyrie has late at night 361 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: can go viral because the NBA has built this culture 362 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: of share, share, share um and I really think that 363 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: the product is great. You can argue whether you like 364 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: the NBA game itself, you know, there's plenty of opinions 365 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: on that, but what's really tough to argue against is 366 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: how they've integrated uh social media culture not only into 367 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: the game, but into fans real life as well. So 368 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: social media has become such a huge part of the 369 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: way people are reacting to these games, like in real time. 370 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: You know, there were all those tweets and all those 371 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: reactions from NBA players to Lebron when he made that 372 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: game winning shot, that he banked that game winning shot 373 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: the other night, and then more to what happened we're 374 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: recording this on Tuesday afternoon, more to what happened last 375 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: night when they swept the Raptors. When you look at 376 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: that series, how much did what Lebron did in that 377 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: series surprise you? At how much did what the Raptors 378 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: didn't do surprise you? Yeah, It's really the most impressive 379 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: thing about Lebron James is that we continue to not 380 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: be surprised by what he does. This is a man 381 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: in his fifteen season that is headed towards his god 382 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 1: knows how many Eastern Conference finals in a row. Uh. 383 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: And the most impressive box score statistic that he has 384 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: isn't even a box score stat it's his durability that 385 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: he's played all eighty two games that he continues in 386 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: year fifteen to put up these forty eight minute games 387 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: while playing eighty two games plus an entire postseason, and 388 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: then every four years he usually goes and placing the 389 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: Olympics for the entire summer too. So just am I 390 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: am I shocked? I shouldn't be, but this Cavs team 391 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: really stinks. They're really not good. And this is as 392 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: good of a Raptors team as we've ever seen. We've 393 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: it's been is starting to feel a little Stockholm syndrome 394 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: when it comes to the Raptors, because this was the 395 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 1: year right they had every piece they needed, Derozen and lowering. 396 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: These guys are starting on the All Star team. Uh, 397 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: if not this year, but at some point they have 398 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: reached the peak of their powers. And to watch them 399 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: just kids waxed by a team that has no business, 400 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: That Cleveland Cavaliers team wins fifteen games without Lebron James 401 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: throughout the entire regular season, just to watch him continue 402 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: to drag them through the depths of hell. I don't 403 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: want to say it's shocking because we've seen it so 404 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 1: many times. It's just more shocking that he can do 405 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: it in year fifteen. And yeah, I'm disappointed in the Raptors, 406 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: even though I shouldn't be because we've been down this 407 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: road before. But my God, like, at this point, how 408 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: do you ever exercise those demons? Let me challenge you 409 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. Let me challenge you a little bit. 410 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: Because Matt Moore had a great story on Action Network 411 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: today Action Network dot Com that basically said I was 412 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: wrong about the Raptors because he had been on the 413 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: Raptors all year a little bit like you were just 414 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: saying and saying, this is a different Raptors team. And 415 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: then he went through a litany of things that described 416 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: why the Calves sort of won. And one note he 417 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: had in there is that this Calvs team isn't as 418 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: bad as people think, and that defensively they obviously played great. Um, offensively, 419 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: they were off the charge, like what are you gonna 420 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: do if you know, you know, j R. Smith is 421 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: shooting god knows what he was shooting from behind the 422 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: ark and everybody else was doing that. But um, that defensively, 423 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: this actually has been a pretty good team in the playoffs. 424 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: So I don't know that I think they're as bad 425 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: as we thought they were. Maybe they're just getting better 426 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: right now, maybe sort of the trades and sort of 427 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: everyone is becoming a little bit better and supporting Lebron 428 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: in a more consistent way. Yeah, so the biggest before 429 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: the trades happened, the biggest issue was that these guys 430 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas, Jay Crowder. Uh god, I even got all 431 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: the other guys that and at some some point Kyrie 432 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: Irving too. If you play with Lebron James, you better 433 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: fall into line. He is the alpha of all alpha's. 434 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 1: It's his team, and he's always kind of lived and 435 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: played by this uh father figure, big brother type of 436 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: culture every single team that he's gone to. And the 437 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: one year that he didn't, he let Wade you know, 438 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: run the show was in Miami and they ended up 439 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: losing to Dallas Mavericks in that first first summer, and 440 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: then Lebron decided, you know what, I'm Lebron, I'm I'm 441 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: retaking over. But in regards to his defen and like 442 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: the team's defense, the same way that there's there's a 443 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: tweet for everything, there's also a stat for everything. I'm 444 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: sure I can find a stat that says they're the 445 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: best team in the league, and there's a stat that 446 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: says they're the worst team in the league. But I 447 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm seeing, and what I'm seeing is Lebron 448 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: at the peak of his powers, is not only the 449 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: best player in the world offensively, whatever you want to say, 450 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: he's the best player in the world because he makes 451 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: his teammates better, and not just better, but he's got 452 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 1: all of these guys maxing out their potential. So if 453 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: Kevin Love's role on this team is to not be 454 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: that low post Minnesota Nimberwolves thirty and fifteen type guy, 455 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: but to run baseline to baseline and hit threes. JR. Smith, 456 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: same thing, Kyle Korver, same thing. We're gonna put four 457 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: out one end when Tristan Thompson's in the game, and 458 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: we're just gonna let Lebron create for everyone else. Um, 459 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: it works because when you have Lebron, you support him 460 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: with shooters and that's the way the game is played. 461 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: I will continue to say that their defense stinks and 462 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: just talent wise, when Lebron is not on the floor, 463 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: this team stinks. I don't know how else to put. 464 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: Don't have any stats in front of me to support 465 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: my cause, but I know what I'm watching and they 466 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: have zero, zero rim protection of any kind. The only 467 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: way you're gonna beat Lebron is to be That's why 468 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: Jonas Alan Tunas was such a disappointment, because whenever you 469 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: got the ball in the block, it's like, dude, just 470 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: turn around and lay it in. It shouldn't be that difficult. 471 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: You got Kevin Love on you, who's four or five 472 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: inches smaller. The only big guy they got on their 473 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: team that's even worth the damn Tristan Thompson. He is 474 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: not known for his defense. He's known for his rebounding. 475 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: So you want to you're begging these teams to take 476 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: advantage of the Calv's biggest weakness. And maybe it is 477 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: a testament to their defense that no one's been able 478 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: to expose it yet. But if you run into the 479 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: Sixers somehow, if they pull off this three oh comeback, 480 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: or if if Boston gets the ball to Horford down low, 481 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: you got anyone that can stop these guys? The answer 482 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: is no, And that's what Golden State will do in 483 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: the finals when they sweep them. All right, said, well, 484 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: you've you've jumped ahead to my questions. So, um, you 485 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: know your way around a betting parlor, you know your 486 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: way around a sports book. Handicap. Let's let's let's assume 487 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: the Celtics are gonna finish off the Sixers, So handicap 488 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: for me, and I'm not ready to say that yet 489 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: before you keep going, all right, then handicapped for me. 490 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: How this series plays out between the Celtics and the Sixers. 491 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: You know, bear in mind we're recording this on Tuesday. 492 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: It'll post sometime Wednesday. I think that's from the next 493 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: game is um, tell me how this series plays out, 494 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: and then tell me what you think the series odds 495 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: should be for Calf Celtics or Calf Sixers. So down 496 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: three oh the seventies Sixers were by from what I saw, 497 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: they were plus six eighties plus seven hundred or something 498 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: to win the series. Down oh three, never done before. 499 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,239 Speaker 1: And you've got the Lawyers minus fifty tho, you got 500 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: the Rockets minus You've got the Sixers like they're still 501 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: in it. There's a reason why there's tall towers in 502 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, right, And it's not because they give away 503 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 1: lines make them too easy to bet. You'd figured bet 504 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 1: the Celtics minus nine hundred or whatever it is. Uh, 505 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: it's it's a stone cold luck. They're not the better team, 506 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: they're the better coach team. The Sixers are better in 507 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: every facet of the game. And I'm not ready to 508 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: say that this series is over because if the Sixers 509 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: win Game five, they're gonna win that series. It all 510 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: comes down to Game five from me. So if I'm 511 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: gonna cap a potential Sixers Calves or Celtics Calves Eastern 512 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: Conference Finals. I still think I'm gonna go on record 513 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: and say I still think the Sixers are gonna win 514 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: this series and be the first team we're gonna see 515 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: a sixteen seed be two one, and we're gonna see 516 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: an NBA team come back from O. Three. So the 517 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: Sixers do end up winning this series. They have the 518 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,959 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cavaliers kryptonite, which is the most dominant big man 519 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: in the league. They've got an up and coming Shaquille 520 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: O'Neal with a three point jump shot, and every single 521 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: time they played this year, the Calves didn't have a 522 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: shot in hell of guarding this guy. He will feast 523 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: upon their flesh like we're watching some some Lord of 524 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: the Rings scene. Uh, if I have to put a 525 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: number on it, you're not You're not not making Lebron 526 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: James the favorite unless it's the Golden State Warriors. So 527 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm you're gonna throw out Calves. They're gonna be on 528 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: the road Calves minus one thirty seventy Sixers plus one ten. 529 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: But uh, you have to imagine there's gonna be a 530 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 1: lot of sharp money on the seventy sixers there. Now, 531 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: if they don't pull it off, you're gonna have the Celtics, 532 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: who are the overachievers, the better coach team, and they're 533 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: gonna certainly be the better coach team against UH Cleveland 534 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: as well. So Boston's got home court. Yeah, the Calves 535 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: I think win that series to make the finals, and 536 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: I think the seventy six is beat the Calves. But 537 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: the Calves beat the Celtics. So if I'm putting a 538 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: number on it could run it. If I'm putting a 539 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: number on Celtics Calves, I wish I came prepared for this, 540 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: because I'm not a bookmaker. But what else I didn't know? 541 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: I had the book action on hypothetical Eastern Conference Finals. Here, 542 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm making the Calves minus that's very similar. I'm making 543 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: them a minus one forty minus one fifty just because 544 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: they don't have home court, and you have to make 545 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: sure that first game is pretty similar to the series price. 546 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: Otherwise everyone's just gonna load up on the first game. 547 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking minus one forty minus one fifty probably 548 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: on the Calves. If they were home, you're looking at 549 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: minus three already, minus three fifty. But you know, not 550 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: home court. So it does get really interesting. You're not 551 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: wrong about the Sixers. They are a one point favorite 552 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: tomorrow night in Boston. And look they they felt like 553 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: very they felt like a very different team last night. 554 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: I was on the Sixers last night. I was on 555 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: him at six and a half in our side action 556 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: slap channel here at Action Network. UM. I had a 557 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: bet against p J Walsh, who thought he was baiting 558 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: me into taking that bet, but I was all over 559 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: it and I would take the Sixers again as one 560 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: point favorites on the road in Boston. But here's where 561 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: it gets interesting. After Game three, all of the conversation 562 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: was Brad Stevens is a genius, best coach in the NBA, 563 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: best you know, tactician in the NBA. If the Celtics 564 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: lose this series, is that narrative change? Is he no 565 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: longer a genius? Like to how do people get out 566 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: of the whole of having said that he is the 567 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: greatest coach in the history of the NBA. Yeah, I 568 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: think that's true that the narrative does change, and it 569 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: would deserve to change if you're the coach responsible for 570 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: blowing in OH three lead three oh lead you can't 571 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: be known as the best coach in the league, and 572 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: he doesn't have any rings either. But we see the 573 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: brilliance in some of these breakdowns that have come out 574 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: on whether it's like The Ringer or sp Nation, they 575 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: break down these final A t O s that Brad 576 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: Stevens like six or seven times he draws up these 577 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: just ludicrous plays that not only get his guys open, 578 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: but he does them on defense too. He's always one 579 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: step ahead. So the basketball brilliance is there. But it's 580 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: absolutely essential that they close this series out. If we're 581 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: going to continue saying that he's the best coach in 582 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: the league, he can't lose a three oh lead. End 583 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: of story. But yeah, the Sixers are a better, better 584 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: basketball team that's just getting out coached, uh, and that 585 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: could be responsible for losing a series. So we'll find 586 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: out in Game five exactly what Brett Brown and what 587 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: the seventy Sixers are may of because they should be 588 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: dominating and there's a reason why they're favorite. What I 589 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: don't like is the narrative that Brett Brown isn't a 590 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: good coach, because this is a guy who has saying that, Well, 591 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: I feel like people are saying that like when you 592 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: when you when you frame it as Brad Stevens is 593 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: out coaching this guy and doing this much of a 594 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: better job, it's almost like it feels like you're putting 595 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: a Dunce camp on the other guy. And I feel 596 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: like he's a really good coach who has done a 597 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: phenomenal job basically coaching a team from you know a metaphor, 598 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: from high school to the NBA, right Like he is 599 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: built that team, built that culture, and done a great 600 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: job of sort of trying to find ways to keep 601 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: everyone together and build something that they can be proud of. 602 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: And it feels a little sad to me that he's 603 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: being compared to Brad Stevens because of these sort of 604 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: out of bounds plays that then an aftertime out plays, 605 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: and and being and and suffering by comparison in a 606 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: in an uneven Yeah. So if if that's the case, 607 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: then Brad's then everyone else is a bad coach too. 608 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: Because Brad Stevens has been out coaching everyone not named 609 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr or Bruten Holzer, you know, multiple times throughout 610 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: the regular season every single year since he's been the 611 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: Celtics head coach. What It's not that Brett Brett Brown 612 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: is a bad coach. He's just getting out coached for 613 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: the first three games. But he won game four, so 614 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: you can say he out coach Brad Stevenson game four. 615 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: Now the narrative has changed. What makes Brad Stevens great 616 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: is watching this team of overachievers that they're missing half 617 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: their their squad, like all they're all stars, are injured. 618 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: And what's impressive is that it's not that he's just 619 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: winning games, is that he's got a system in place 620 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: and he can take anyone off that bench. He could 621 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: put Yaboo Selly in Nader and all these guys all 622 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: the way at the end with Greg Monroe and probably 623 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: go out there and close out this series. And that's 624 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: a testament not only to the culture that he's created 625 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: amongst his players, but something's working. And when he continues 626 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: to succeed in these clutch uh situations and eight again, 627 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep alluding to a T O S because 628 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: of just how special he is at drawing those things up. 629 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: Where there's smoke, there's usually fire in this league, and 630 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: his fire has been burning since the moment he's come in. 631 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: It's the most impressive thing for a coach, in my opinion, 632 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: isn't so much the rings as it is your ability 633 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: to create a system like Greg Popovich is done in 634 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: San Antonio, where it don't matter who we draft or 635 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 1: who we sign, they're gonna come in here and play 636 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: our style of basketball because it works. And there's really 637 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: only two total coaches in teams that you can say 638 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: that about the Spurs in the Celtics. Alright, So look 639 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 1: at the Western Conference for a second. Let's say it's 640 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: you've already said, you just said the Warriors are gonna 641 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: get to the finals, are going to suit the Calves. 642 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: So to me, that means you think they're getting by 643 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: the Rockets pretty easily. Yes, And the reason for that 644 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 1: is I live I live by the mantra you can't 645 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: out Warriors the Warriors. If you're gonna come into the 646 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: building and try and outshoot them, you're gonna try and 647 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: outrun them, You're gonna try and outpace them. That's what 648 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: D'Antoni has been trying to do for two decades. You 649 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: can't out Warriors the Warriors. There's no way to do it. 650 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: They're simply too good. They're the best team up until 651 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: this point of all time. On paper, they need to 652 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: close it out. They need to win another championship before 653 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: you have that conversation. But this is a flawless basketball 654 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: team when Steph Curry's on the floor and he's healthy, 655 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 1: and the fact that the Rockets are going to go 656 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: out there again and just kind of try and shoot 657 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: their way into the NBA Finals is not gonna work. 658 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: If this was a sudden death one game, you could 659 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: believe it in a heartbeat, because the Rockets can catch fire. 660 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: But there are so many possessions in an NBA game 661 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: now north of a hundred when it comes to pace, 662 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: and you gotta beat them four at a seven times 663 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: four at a seven. And they ain't got no home 664 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: court advantage in Houston. That's that's that is one of 665 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: the quieter crowds left in I know Houston will come 666 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 1: after me for that, but you know what, that's It's true, 667 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: like I don't feel a home court advantage. That's a Utah, 668 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: like a Philly, like a Boston. It's not daunting to 669 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: go into Houston. That's the one advantage you got over 670 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: Golden State. It's not there for me. It's just not 671 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: And unless they decide to change their system real quick. Um, 672 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: I see Golden State closing that out in four, or 673 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: maybe a gentleman sweep. Really, yeah, they've they've been polite. 674 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: They gentlemen sweeped San Antonio to make sure man who 675 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: got his nice little goodbye they did. They're gonna do 676 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: a nice little gentleman's sweep with New Orleans, and they'll 677 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 1: do a nice little gentleman's sweep with the Houston Rockets 678 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: before they go back to the finals. But too good. 679 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: I understand what you mean by gentleman sweep, but essentially 680 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: what you're saying is they're gonna let him have that 681 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: one game sort of feel good, get the home crowd energized, 682 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: do something nice like they're not doing it on purpose, 683 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 1: But there's gonna be that game where they just don't 684 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: go as hard. Yeah, they did not show up to 685 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: that Game four in San Antonio. They were halfway on 686 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: the lane by halftime. They got beat in Game three 687 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: by like a drum. But sometimes they just don't show up. 688 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: And I had I think I did a tweet earlier 689 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: this year that I was watching every Warriors game, in 690 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: every dribble that they play, mainly because Swaggy P and 691 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: Javelle McGee are on the squad and I don't want 692 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: to miss anything. But they don't even show up to 693 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: games anymore. It's like they show up to quarters because 694 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: they know we don't have to show up to games. 695 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: Were too good. Granted it's the playoffs now and they 696 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: certainly are showing up to full games, but as soon 697 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: as they snap their fingers and turn it on, there's 698 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: not a team, a concoction of players that from all 699 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: other teams in the Western Conference that can beat these guys. 700 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,439 Speaker 1: It's a system that Steve kers got I was talking 701 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: about Popovich and Brad Stevens before. He's built a system 702 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: that these that these perennial All stars can thrive in, 703 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,439 Speaker 1: and that's what makes them a super team. The only 704 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: super team is it's not just a collection of talented individuals. 705 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: Look what happened to Okay, see you put you just 706 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: play NBA two K and you make all these great 707 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: trades and you put all the stars together. You got 708 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: there and you dominate. But it doesn't happen in real life. 709 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: When there's not a system in place to maximize their talents, 710 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: you just can't beat them at their own game, and 711 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: I feel like I get the opportunity to buy Warrior 712 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,959 Speaker 1: stock this year because for three months everyone was Steph 713 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,439 Speaker 1: Curry's hurt to Rand's hurt. They don't care. They're gonna 714 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: They're gonna run into more motivated teams. I'm like, I'll 715 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: take your stock, bye bye, bye bye. They even put 716 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: a plus sign in front of the Golden State Wars 717 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: to win the title at one point, by you know, 718 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: what are you guys doing. It's the same Warriors team. 719 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: They ain't losing. You can you can record this all 720 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 1: you want. They're not losing. Yeah, I mean that's what 721 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I think at one point this 722 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: year they were like plus three fifty to win the 723 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:43,240 Speaker 1: NBA title. Get out of here. It's it's insane unless 724 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: you think they're not. Their stars were gonna be injured 725 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: throughout the playoffs. But if your reasoning was they don't 726 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: have it, then you haven't watched enough games this year 727 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,240 Speaker 1: to see that they just didn't care. After that seventy 728 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: three win campaign, we saw the following season like, we 729 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: don't want to do that again, because that was eight 730 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: months playing every game like Game seven, and it just 731 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 1: didn't look like they found it to be worth it anymore. 732 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: We're not going to match that intensity every single night, 733 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: so we'll show up when we need to, and then 734 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, we're gonna wax your ass. I guess 735 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: what's amazing is that they can do that, that they 736 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: can turn it on sort of at a whim. And 737 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,479 Speaker 1: that's always been the challenge for a lot of teams 738 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 1: is that they can't. And that's why as a better 739 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: it's been hard to buy into them sort of late 740 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: until late in the season because you didn't know what 741 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: you were going to get. Is why I think the 742 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: price as along with the injuries, I think just people 743 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: were thinking they're not as motivated as they used to be, 744 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: and it's hard to turn that switch. It's hard to 745 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: invest in that. Oh it's and it's thoroughly maddening to 746 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: bet on the Warriors at any point, whether it's the 747 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 1: playoffs or the regular season, because they're laying such massive 748 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: numbers no matter where they go. And then they go 749 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: up by twenty and they send in McCaw and they 750 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: send in Quinn, Cook Looney and these guys that are like, 751 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: oh God, here we go. And then before you know it, 752 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: twenties down to ten just because they don't care. So 753 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: every game that you've been on the Warriors feels like 754 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: it comes down to whether Quinn Cook makes that garbage 755 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: three with twenty eight seconds left. Uh. And that's just 756 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: because their bench, you know, just they come in and 757 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: it's been the same thing for three three years now. 758 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 1: When you're laying that type of number, it's really hard 759 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: unless you're up by thirty to protect laying that many points. Alright, 760 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: worldwide Web, you have made a declaration that the Warriors 761 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: are going to sweep the Calves in the finals. Although 762 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: you have said that, you also had a declaration that 763 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: the Celtics sixers contest is not over yet, which I'm 764 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: excited to see, you know, in the future world how 765 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: that plays out. Um, tell us all the places we 766 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: can find everything you're doing. Sure. Our our program at 767 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: cycle here is called Buckets. Unfortunately we're on a hiatus 768 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: at the moment, so we don't have a set return 769 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: date as to when the program is going to be 770 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: back live, but you can find us on both ESPN 771 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: and at b y Cycle on Twitter. Cycles the name 772 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: of the content creation company here that works under laundry 773 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: Service The ad agency and we produced content. Uh we uh, 774 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: we work with brands. We we do shows like Buckets, um, 775 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: all that good stuff. So uh, definitely check us out 776 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: if you haven't already. UM, we live on the internet. 777 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: So if you're looking for what we like to say 778 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 1: on Buckets is it's not just a basketball culture, it's 779 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: a it's a lifestyle. So if you're looking for that 780 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: type of experience, certainly Buckets and Cycles for you. I 781 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: will tell you it's a great show. I hope it 782 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:43,240 Speaker 1: comes back soon. We produced a Super Bowl pregame betting 783 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,919 Speaker 1: show and the Super Bowl halftime show and a super 784 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: Bowl postgame show, and um, it was the first thing 785 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: that we tried at the Action Network. We did it 786 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: in February, obviously we only launched in January. And UM 787 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: I sent episodes of Buckets to the guy who was 788 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: producing it, saying, our show needs to look and feel 789 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: like this really really good. So, uh, when you guys 790 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,959 Speaker 1: are doing it cycle generally it's really interesting. Um. Thanks 791 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: for coming on the podcast. Man, it was great to 792 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: have your great basketball conversation. I'm looking forward to seeing, 793 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: uh what you text and to whom when you get 794 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: back your buddy who foolishly bet that that's when more 795 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: than thirty games. So, uh, please keep us posted and 796 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: you come back and tell that Vegas story. Yeah, I'm 797 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: always open for hypothetical bets with Twitter too. I bet 798 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,959 Speaker 1: the City of Philadelphia they wouldn't win forty three games 799 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: and I lost, so I had to write every single 800 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: every single person an apology letter and eat my bet 801 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: ticket live on puckets. So I'm always down to do them. 802 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: Oh that's beautiful. I didn't even know that we can 803 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: just we can just get out a lot those on 804 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: Action Network and we can start sending traffic your way. Well, 805 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna get a lot of I'm gonna get drunk, 806 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: and then I'm going to end up betting stupid things 807 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: with people that I have no upside and just just 808 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: for pride purposes, and then it's going to turn into 809 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: a thing. But yeah, so you know what, put it on, 810 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: Put it up there and I'll take a look. We 811 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: can periscope and it'll be fantastic live live taking bets 812 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: live with the Action Network. Uh, make me an offer, 813 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,439 Speaker 1: and it's kind of like a deal or no deal. 814 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: You make a bet and if you're willing to eat 815 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: your jersey, the entire jersey if you lose. Maybe that's 816 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: something I'll be interested in. So I'll tell you what 817 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, what people can people can do. People can 818 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 1: go into the buffet page on iTunes and in the 819 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: reviews they can write what the bet they want to 820 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: make with you. We will send them to you and 821 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: you can start tweeting out those. You can decide which 822 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: ones you want to take, and you can do a 823 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: little programming about it. Sounds good, but if you're listening 824 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,760 Speaker 1: to this, make sure it's an offer that is legit. 825 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to see no lopside. It offers 826 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,959 Speaker 1: the unrealistic things. I can't write fourteen thousand letters again. 827 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm only going to do that once. So come with 828 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: some creativity and we'll get back to you. I mean, 829 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: that's the beauty that says you can make the choice 830 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: right like anybody can pose anything they want in the 831 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: reviews action and then collectively we can decide which ones 832 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: you want to pursue and which ones aren't what you well, 833 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: it will make me a bet on the Warriors. I'm 834 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: saying the lawyers are gonna walk through the finals and 835 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: the sweep the Calves I'm willing to willing to take 836 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: action on it, so use that as your crooks and UM, yeah, 837 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: all right forward to see what comes in You heard 838 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,320 Speaker 1: it worldwide Web, Go to our iTunes page, go to 839 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 1: the buffet. Type in your bets. Let's see what you 840 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: can get him to do for you. Follow him at 841 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 1: world underscore Wide underscore WOB on Twitter. Honestly, it is 842 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 1: probably the best NBA follow on Twitter. Um, thanks for 843 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: doing this, brother, I appreciate it. Thanks for the time. 844 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: Chid next up on the podcast. We originally thought it 845 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: was gonna be uh Stucky who wrote this great story 846 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: about all the prop bets that he's willing to take 847 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: from fans, like things that aren't on board that he'd 848 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: love to bet. And then we were bringing on Lauren 849 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: Joffe because she had some ideas on this too. Of course, Stucky, 850 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: while confirming, has now disappeared or and do not responded 851 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,919 Speaker 1: to anybody's texts. So we're gonna merge. Probably we're gonna 852 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: morph from being just irritated to you know, sending in 853 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: an app to find Stucky at some point. But while 854 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: we were chatting, Joffy, you brought up a very interesting 855 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: theory to me, which is the idea of hate betting. 856 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: Explain to me where this comes from. Basically just comes 857 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: from me making best based on nothing but out of 858 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: irritations for specific person or like like, for instance, um 859 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 1: my ex boyfriend played for a USC and so he 860 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,879 Speaker 1: whenever you know, we'd be playing them or anyone will 861 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: be playing though for that matter, um, I would bet 862 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,240 Speaker 1: against it just because I wanted him to be annoyed 863 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,879 Speaker 1: and sad and miserable. Like that was literally my only 864 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: reason for doing it. There was no numbers, back anything up. 865 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: It was just I'm gonna do this because that way 866 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: I could root for his misery. And I mean, and 867 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: that's just an example. That's one example. I mean, they 868 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: get they get really bad. For a while, I had 869 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: an I had another ex boyfriend who uh, whose dad 870 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: was a huge Cubs fan and this was this was 871 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: way back in the day, and uh, and he was 872 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 1: and he was going to go to the World Series 873 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: and he was so excite, and I was like, no, 874 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 1: I don't really want his dad to have any fun. 875 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 1: I mean, like, I mean, there was you know, there 876 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: was more behind us, but whatever, the whatever the point is, 877 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 1: I like, really I rooted against the Cubs just for 878 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: that purpose, and I actually felt guilty afterwards. I really 879 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 1: felt like I then the reason why. But but I 880 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: won the bet. So you know, why are you filled 881 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: with such rage? Why are you vindictively betting against people? 882 00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: I I don't. I I think it had to do 883 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: just with Part of it I think is I'm I'm 884 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 1: jealous that perhaps my teams haven't been there, so I 885 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: don't want anyone else to be there. Um, I think that. 886 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 1: I just I think I need to do more with 887 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: my life currently. Um, I don't know. That's you know, well, 888 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: that's probably what more do you need to be doing? 889 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: Explained to people? Explain to people what exactly you aren't 890 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: doing or are you doing that? Like needs you to 891 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: do more? Well, I'm currently about a year ago, I moved, 892 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 1: I got sick. I'm all better now nothing, you know whatever, 893 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 1: I'm fine. Um, And I moved to d C because 894 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: that's where my parents were living in the Wanderny to 895 00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 1: see doctors here, YadA, YadA, YadA. So meanwhile I'm here 896 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 1: and I'm going insane living. I mean, I'm an adult 897 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: living with her parents. It's it's it's driving me crazy. Um, 898 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 1: I don't know anyone here, and um, I don't like 899 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 1: it here so pretty much. I get rage built up 900 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 1: from that and and I have to spend it somewhere, 901 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: so you know, and so my my guess is you 902 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: are spending it on your hate bets. Yes, and on Twitter. 903 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 1: That's what I think. Oh Twitter for sure, because I 904 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 1: don't have I mean, like, I have my dogs here, 905 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 1: but you know, they get they only can listen to 906 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 1: so much of what I have to say, so I 907 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 1: have to tell someone and Twitter is a place to 908 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: do that. Um. You know, I don't like to necessarily 909 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: start fights with people, but it happens. And you know, 910 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 1: I realized, like I remember I was telling my friend 911 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: of like, oh my god, so today on Twitter, and 912 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: they looked at me like I was crazy. Um, but 913 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 1: that's literally that that that's somewhat of what I've been doing, um, 914 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,319 Speaker 1: which you know is made for some good content, I suppose, Um, 915 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 1: but you know, must is going crazy, so well you know, 916 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: I'm in favor of you going crazy. Um. When people 917 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: ask me about Jeffy, I'm like, she's great. Uh, she's crazy, 918 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 1: but she's totally great. But it also means that you're 919 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: doing great content for us like your column this week 920 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 1: is fantastic, and you're gonna do another column for us. 921 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 1: So that's the ame. That really is the ame that Listen, 922 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm a mercenary, honest to god. If your lack of 923 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,360 Speaker 1: mental well being leads to better content for the Action Network, 924 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 1: by God, I'm all for it. I mean, and you 925 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: know what, I am at the point where I still 926 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: think it's funny. Like I mean I remember telling people 927 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 1: like when I was younger, and like, if you lock 928 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: me in a room for like a year by myself, 929 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: I think I would still come out laughing, like I 930 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 1: think I'm funny. Um, So, like I mean, you know, 931 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 1: this is a random this is a random story, but 932 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 1: there was this There's this guy sit behind us a 933 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: hockey games growing up, and I just remember him one 934 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: day going, Lauren, can you can you play Comma just 935 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: for like five minutes? And and that's sort of always 936 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 1: stuck with me, is people just just play Coma for 937 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: like five minutes, like you know, stop talking or you know, 938 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: shut up. Anyway, I thought that was funny. He basically 939 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 1: said to you, can you play Dead for five minutes? Yes, 940 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: like he wants quiet for five minutes. So that that's me, Like, yeah, 941 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 1: that's me like a lot of the time. Um, yeah, 942 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, by all means, exploit it. What are you 943 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,360 Speaker 1: thinking about in this room by yourself? Like what is 944 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,320 Speaker 1: happening in there? I gotta know what's going on in 945 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: your head right now? I mean I have so many 946 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: Like there's just so much, so much things would have 947 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: happened in my life that have just been like insanely weird, 948 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 1: like just I mean I could tell stories. It's just stories. 949 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: I got stories about everything. Um, and they're all true, 950 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 1: which is the craziest part because I'm terrible a making 951 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 1: sit up, so um, they're all true and crazy, like 952 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: I could I mean specifically, I mean I once had 953 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 1: a had a I mean, this one isn't funny as 954 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 1: much as it is crazy, but it was just crazy 955 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: at the time. I'm thinking back to to what we 956 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: had this murderer that was U that ended up studying 957 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: at night in college in uh in our in our 958 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 1: dorm room or whatever. Um, and that's a whole other 959 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,920 Speaker 1: story obviously, but just you know, when the cops came 960 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: at two o'clock in the morning and we had a 961 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: we had a homeless guy there that was from Oregon 962 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 1: that might other roommate had brought you know, Okay, maybe 963 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 1: this is it's too long a story to get into, 964 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,760 Speaker 1: but no, no, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold 965 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:14,399 Speaker 1: on hold the phone. Let's go back to the fact 966 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: that you had a murderer spend the night in your 967 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 1: dorm room. Yeah, so that well, at that point he 968 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 1: wasn't a murderer. I don't think he murdered the next night. 969 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's to Arizona people did. Yeah, someone 970 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,320 Speaker 1: that spent the night in your dorm room, like murdered 971 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:43,800 Speaker 1: someone in Tucson the next day. What's the story? What happened? Yeah, basically, 972 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,320 Speaker 1: we we had a roommate, like it was three of 973 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 1: my friends and we needed one more to be like 974 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,360 Speaker 1: kind of got like a random ast signed roommate and 975 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: I thought she was totally cool until she showed up, 976 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 1: and you know, she was like very insufficisu and the 977 00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,320 Speaker 1: dead and and you know, like two days in the school, 978 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 1: she's like, hey, guys, I'm out are going on a 979 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 1: fish tour, and we're like okay, So she left to 980 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 1: go on a fish tour. Um she brought back a 981 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,720 Speaker 1: homeless guy from Oregon and she literally said Hey, guys, 982 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: this is Cat. He's from Oregon and he's homeless. So 983 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: I brought him here. He's gonna stay with us for 984 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: a while, and we all just kind of went, um what, 985 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, we allowed it to happen anyway. 986 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,240 Speaker 1: So meanwhile he's living with us. Um. I it's Halloween. 987 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 1: I go out, I come back home. There's some random 988 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 1: guys sting there and I'm like, hey, Sloan, that was 989 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 1: her name, you know who is this? And she's like, 990 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 1: he brought us some beer, so he's chilling with us. 991 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,320 Speaker 1: So now I've got a homeless guy and some random 992 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 1: gut about her beer that are just you know, in 993 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 1: our place. Next day, she leaves for her second fish tour. 994 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: So if he leaves homeless guy that that she brought 995 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 1: back from their first fish tour with us, she leaves. Um. 996 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 1: The next a couple of days later, we had knock 997 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 1: gonna do at two o'clock in the morning, UM, and 998 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: it was the it was the just On Homicide or 999 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 1: Tusson Police Department Homicide Division, UM looking for this guy, 1000 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:11,320 Speaker 1: UM because he was there was some chick that was 1001 00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 1: found murdered and he was claiming that we were his alibis. 1002 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 1: But um, as it turns out, we were. He was 1003 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,760 Speaker 1: with us the night before. So anyway, he got convicted 1004 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: and he's in he's a prisoner. I did not even 1005 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:38,440 Speaker 1: know where that question was going to go. That, I mean, 1006 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:46,439 Speaker 1: it's totally off topic, so you know. But but the point, 1007 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,839 Speaker 1: the whole, the funny part of that, if we could 1008 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 1: get back, that was just that the look on everyone 1009 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 1: on the everyone stays like the cops are knocking on 1010 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: the door two o'clock in the morning, my roommates trying 1011 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 1: to hide the bomb, you know, homeless guys pretending he's 1012 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 1: a sleep because he doesn't want to be questioned by 1013 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 1: the cops. I mean, it was it was just not funny. 1014 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 1: Like thinking back, I don't, like I wouldn't believe that 1015 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 1: it was true. If it didn't happen, There's no way 1016 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: you would believe it's true. Do you think do you 1017 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:19,399 Speaker 1: think there was a chance, like, like, who did he murder? 1018 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 1: Did he murder someone he knew? No, No, some fourteen 1019 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 1: year old girl. I've like gone back and tried to 1020 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 1: find on the internet, and it's for whatever reason, I 1021 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 1: cannot find the information um about this at all. But 1022 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: I do but percent remember that it was Yeah, she 1023 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:45,919 Speaker 1: was murdered, stabbed, um, dumped into a riverbed um. Yeah, 1024 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 1: and the whole this whole time, he was cleaning that 1025 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: we were alibis. Um. Yeah, so I think and no, 1026 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 1: I think it was all clearly he's just picking up 1027 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,840 Speaker 1: random six because he picked up my met so or 1028 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 1: my roommates. So you know that's is mL. I guess 1029 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 1: like when you look back out the story, do you 1030 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 1: ever think, oh my god, I came this close to 1031 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: being murdered or do you think I mean, there's been 1032 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 1: some dumb things I've done in my life. Like I 1033 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 1: drove across country and like literally we decided that we 1034 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 1: weren't going to stop for anything. So literally, you know, 1035 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: we're like nineteen years old driving across the country. The 1036 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,800 Speaker 1: whole entire time, I was like telling asleep at the 1037 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,839 Speaker 1: wheel literally um, because she was mad because I didn't 1038 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: want to stop because we were wasting time. I mean, 1039 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 1: We've been really dumb, stopping some gas stations, slept in 1040 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: the car. I look up to like random people looking 1041 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,800 Speaker 1: in us like yeah, there's one of things. But I'm like, 1042 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 1: how do I not die? But um, yeah, see I 1043 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 1: don't know why you have such hate in your heart 1044 00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: and eventful, if I were you, I'd be feeling really 1045 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 1: lucky and thinking, Wow, I've made it through so many times, 1046 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:11,320 Speaker 1: like I'm playing with house money right now, I to 1047 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 1: to a degree. I mean hate most the hate usually 1048 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: stems from from boys. Is usually where it stems from. Um, 1049 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: domestic my heart sad face. Um, but that's that's mostly 1050 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: with that bage comes from. But yes, But anyway, the 1051 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: point of the whole thing I think would be funny 1052 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 1: and I've loved stories to tell myself Again Listen, I 1053 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 1: think you're hilarious. Um. I think that there is something 1054 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 1: to be done about the combination between hate betting and 1055 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: sort of the emotion that overtakes people and needing to 1056 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 1: separate that from the actual science of betting. It's something 1057 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 1: I I'm I'm working on, UM, definitely working on that. 1058 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 1: There's you know, like, like I told you the the 1059 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:16,520 Speaker 1: Philly bett other day, Um, what've done out of just 1060 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 1: irritation for someone? Um, like I didn't look at the 1061 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: number and look at any o that story because that 1062 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 1: might have been while we were waiting for Stucky. Oh. Basically, um, Um, 1063 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 1: Chad and PJ, that would be me and p J 1064 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 1: Walsh and we were we have we have a slack 1065 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 1: channel that is dedicated to side action, where like, if 1066 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 1: anyone wants to make a bet, they throw it in 1067 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 1: there and if they get a taker, then we got 1068 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 1: a side action alert. And uh. The other day I 1069 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 1: offered up I wanted to take Philly nine of six 1070 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 1: and a half over the Celtics in game four, which 1071 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 1: covered and p J. Wallace, one of editors, came in 1072 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 1: said he liked Boston and you were in the channel 1073 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 1: and yeah yeah, And I said, I'm like, yep, I'm 1074 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 1: taking out that you were taking Boston. Obviously we both lost. Yeah. Um, 1075 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 1: And I legitimately had not looked at numbers any dad nothing. 1076 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 1: I just was like, you know what, there's this guy 1077 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 1: in his group chat on him and and you know 1078 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 1: he is nonstopped. Philadelphia is the best, Philadelphia ruled. Everyone 1079 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 1: else sucks and I've just had it. So I said, 1080 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm reading against him, like I'm gonna 1081 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 1: put money here because I need Like that's how mad 1082 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 1: I was. Whatever. Yeah, the flip side is when I 1083 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 1: was in college, So really, what does it matter if 1084 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 1: I lose that? Licially in the grand scheme of things. Um, 1085 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 1: it's no deal. It really isn't a big deal, you know. 1086 00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Um yeah, Uh, you're gonna have a column up that 1087 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 1: goes up probably today. You will have another one that 1088 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 1: probably goes up later this week. The recording this on Tuesday. 1089 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 1: It's going to post on Wednesday. People can read Lauren 1090 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Joffe um at the Action Network Action network dot com. 1091 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 1: They can follow you at the Spin Zone. I'm glad stuck. 1092 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 1: He blew us off. I'm gonna fucking call him. I'm 1093 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 1: kind of piste, you know, fox stuck. But um, otherwise 1094 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 1: we would have gotten at least close to some of 1095 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 1: the deep seated issues that you're that you're wrestling with 1096 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 1: right now. I think I think you got a lot 1097 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 1: to work through. But I swear I'm totally normal. I 1098 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 1: really am totally a totally normal person who thinks she's 1099 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 1: hilarious sitting by herself in her parents house. I think 1100 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 1: that would be accurate. Totally keep writing those stories though, 1101 01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 1: they're doing great. Oh I will, I will, I will, 1102 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 1: all right, Jothy, thank you very much. Alright, Alry by 1103 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:05,320 Speaker 1: light