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Speaker 1: and Out podcast just finished up. There's actually it's in

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Speaker 1: the two minute warning. Now Monday night football, Uh, not

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Speaker 1: the greatest game. Have a couple of thoughts on the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Redskins. Anytime you're on your third string quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but he's proven he's good enough to win you games.

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Speaker 1: And Alex Smith snaps his leg, your season's over. But

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Speaker 1: when your second string quarterback, which is not terrible in

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Speaker 1: Colt McCoy also snaps his leg, I think the official

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Speaker 1: words he broke his foot or broke his leg fibula, tibula.

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Speaker 1: I saw it on Twitter earlier, like your seasons done,

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Speaker 1: you know, and their season probably was already done the

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Speaker 1: whatever Adrian Peterson's eating, I want some of that, uh,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll dive into, you know, the biggest story

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Speaker 1: McCarthy fire or weekend Mike McCarthy fired, I mean the

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Speaker 1: Green like Hugh Jackson and Mike McCarthy We've had two

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Speaker 1: coaches fired this year. One is a story, the other

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Speaker 1: one's not. Like Hugh Jackson getting fired, I'm sorry, it

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Speaker 1: was never a story. He won three games and his

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Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson to be irrelevant again. But Mike McCarthy being

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Speaker 1: fired is a big deal. He's won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I watched some of Mike Murphy's press conference today or

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Speaker 1: Mark Murphy, excuse me. The president had a good stat

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Speaker 1: eight straight playoff appearances, longest streak in Packer history. I

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Speaker 1: mean home brew in Lombardi. Now, McCarthy had some good coaches,

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Speaker 1: so it's a big deal. And Aaron Rodgers have some

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Speaker 1: thoughts on that college football playoff. Uh. New England's home

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Speaker 1: field advantage. I don't think quite gets enough credit. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of their curveball, Uh that Belichick and Brady get

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Speaker 1: And then Seattle, uh to what a culture season for them,

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Speaker 1: but starting to night on the Monday night game, I

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Speaker 1: And you know I fly in like probably once a month.

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Speaker 1: I don't watch every snap of every game, especially the

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. I haven't been playing that well.

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Speaker 1: But whenever I do come in win or lose, my

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Speaker 1: big takeaway is, holy hell, Carson Wentz is a freak,

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Speaker 1: Like what a talent. I always hill for the Bay Area.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Northern California guy through and through, like at

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Speaker 1: my core, that's what defines me. It's the way I'm

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Speaker 1: I grew up going to games when I was young,

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Speaker 1: So the cow program means a lot. I'm a big

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff guy. I take him a lot in Daily Fantasy.

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Speaker 1: But the difference in just pure talents between him and

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Speaker 1: and that includes the Rams, Like Carson Wentz is just

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Speaker 1: People always freak out when a guy throws a pick,

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Speaker 1: Like the best teams that the franchise has really ever

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Speaker 1: And McNabb was just throwing BB's and he was fresh

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Speaker 1: become a much better player again. I'm helicopter dad, so

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Speaker 1: I I personally don't think Hugh Jackson getting fired is

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Speaker 1: he is really good offensive schemer, like he is incredible.

426
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: I know he's got Brady, but he's good. You can't

427
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: even argue that. I just don't trust him. Like what

428
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 1: I witnessed last year, I I just couldn't trust him.

429
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 1: Now I get him and Gudakins. Two years ago when

430
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: the Niners were interviewing people, Jed was so caught up

431
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: and making sure people liked each other. So he was

432
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: trying to do the shotgun marriages, and Gudakins and McDaniels

433
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: got to know each other. I still I don't know man.

434
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard knew Josh McDaniels. They had the same agent,

435
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: and it still happened. So I just wouldn't trust it.

436
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't waste time. Uh you know, John d Filippo

437
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: is gonna be in the mix. I think it's gonna

438
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: be a little harder to find a coach than than

439
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: people just think maybe they go a little off the

440
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: beaten path and go a like a Matt Campbell type guy.

441
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I would. I think Lincoln Riley

442
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: tells them no, though he should talk to them. And

443
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: I think ultimately if they hired Josh McDaniels or even

444
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: an attempt going down that road, I think it's very,

445
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: very risky. Let's jump really quick. Let's leave Sunday's go

446
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: to Saturday. What what just starting off? What a fantastic

447
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: I let me repeat fantastic Championship Saturday? That George Alabama game.

448
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: If you're a sports fan, I love Nick Saban. I

449
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: love the SEC because let's call it what it is. Listen,

450
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm a West Coast homer, and I love the Pact

451
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: twelve like that's my first love. But the PAC twelve

452
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: is a joke like that these people saying, well, we

453
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: need eight teams in the UH in the college football playoffs.

454
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: The Pact twalve did not deserve to sniff the college

455
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: football playoffs. I'm not a big believer that just because

456
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: you win your conference that you should get an automatic bit.

457
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: I'm fine with the four teams. Now, will it eventually change?

458
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: Of course, money talks, ship walks, so there's so much

459
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: money on line, they'll eventually go to eight teams. But

460
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: the Pact twelve did not deserve to get a team

461
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: the Big Ten. Uh. You know it's up for debate,

462
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: even though I think Ohio States ceiling the secs. Their

463
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: their motto is it just means more. And the fact

464
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: is it does. It means more in the South that

465
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: that is not really arguable. It just is a bigger

466
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: deal in the SEC championship. In the SEC on a

467
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: weekly basis, that conference treats football like the NFL out West.

468
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: We care way too much about the Olympic sports about

469
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 1: equality and listen, I'm all for equality in every walk

470
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: of life. It except when it comes to money. And

471
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,479
Speaker 1: when it comes to money, football has to be your

472
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: number one priority. Why because it's driving the train of cash.

473
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: And the SEC gets that. Ohio State, Michigan get that.

474
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: I mean the Big Ten, the Big twelve get that.

475
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: And basketball, to somewhat of a lesser extent, the a

476
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: SEC with the Dukes in North Carolinas, they really matter.

477
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: The Pack twelve. We care way too much about lacrosse

478
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: and soccer. But that's a whole different tangent. Bottom line,

479
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: I left the Georgia game thinking one Kirby Smart blew

480
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: the game. There's no arguing that he got tight. Called

481
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: the fake punt. Uh, that's inexcusable. I I know he

482
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 1: defended it. I was watching Scott van Pelt. He came

483
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: on and said they had the look and he knew

484
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: the coverage from being Alabama. I get that, But Kirby,

485
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: you can't run a fake punt in a tie game

486
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 1: in the SEC Championship when their backup quarterback is in it.

487
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: Just it's inexcusable. Keep your offense. I'm always foregoing for it.

488
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: But winner that win or lose with the star quarterback,

489
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: with your star offensive players. They had played well, but

490
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: that's neither here nor there. It was clear that after

491
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: that game the committee was gonna have a tough choice

492
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: on their hands. No one with half a brain could

493
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: argue that. Man, you know what, George is one of

494
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: the best four teams I saw this year. It was true,

495
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: and Kirk herb Street was adamant and I got where

496
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: he was coming from. But in football, there's a reason

497
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: why the playoffs you don't get the one or two.

498
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: It's never decided on head to head. That the draft

499
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: picks aren't decided on head to head. Because football, the

500
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: games matter, the season matters. There's you only play a

501
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: limited amount of games. You don't have eight games, you

502
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 1: have like sixteen games in the pros. In college, you

503
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: play twelve or thirteen. And Georgia loss two, Notre Dame

504
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: will always be an automatic bid if they if they

505
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: run the table, and they should be. Their schedule it

506
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: changes on a given year depending on how to Tames do,

507
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: but they schedule a big boy schedule. It's not their

508
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: fault that Virginia Tech stuck this year, Like they won

509
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: the games they deserve to go in. Alabama lock, Clemson

510
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: was a lock Oklahoma. I'm fine with them getting in

511
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: because their offense is historically great, but their defense, like

512
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: you don't need to google where they stand on third

513
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: down or scoring their atrocious. They look like a bunch

514
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: of midgets in their secondary, they can't cover, their linebackers

515
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 1: feel small, and they're terrible tackling team. Their defense is terrible,

516
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: but offensively they are I think historically I've read a

517
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: couple of places a historically great offense, so I got

518
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: no problem with it. But I also have no problem

519
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: with anyone saying that George is better than them, because

520
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: I also think this where it just means more. I

521
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: think l s U would throttle the Washington, a Utah,

522
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: a Penn State. You know who's the Pittsburgh Texas on

523
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: a neutral field. They would throttle those teams if they care.

524
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: I always go into bowl games with the grain assault

525
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 1: on how I'm going to judge the team. Like Auburn

526
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: last year lost to UCF, L s U might lose

527
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: to UCF this year. They won't take that game seriously.

528
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: There won't be a player on l s U. They

529
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: looks at a player on UCF like they're they're equals,

530
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: because all those guys are four or five star recruits.

531
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,719
Speaker 1: All those guys just look down upon UCF and this

532
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: game means nothing. That's why when Boise, who had an

533
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: incredible program, beat Oklahoma several years ago, the Adrian Peterson game,

534
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: when they walk off in ian uh Ian Johnson, you

535
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: know uh statue of liberty play, which was awesome, But

536
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: like you think, Adrian Peterson looked at Ian Johnson or

537
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: at Chris Peterson and his entire roster like they were equals.

538
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: He didn't take them seriously. Now they ended up losing

539
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: and it looks bad. But bowl games, there are two

540
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: bowl games that matter, and those are the playoff games.

541
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: The other bowl games don't mean a goddamn thing. But

542
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: like Georgia, I I would actually bet against Georgia in

543
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: their bowl game. Why because they just sniffed the playoffs

544
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: and then they didn't get it, Just like I bet

545
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: probably against Ohio State, which should wipe the floor with Washington.

546
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll try. I don't think they'll even care.

547
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: They won't even be focused, even if it's Urban Meyer's

548
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: last game, which it is sure feels like that. I

549
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: don't expect them to give great effort. But I think

550
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: the hard part about this year is you had three

551
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: teams now Ohio State. When you get blown out by

552
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: Purdue and they did not play well a lot of

553
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: the season. That's a big difference between Georgia and Oklahoma.

554
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: Those teams maintain the high level of play start to finish. Uh, Georgia,

555
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: you just can't get blown out by L s U.

556
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: It just can't happen. And that ultimately screwed him, even

557
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: though I think L s U is really good. If

558
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: that game had just been closer, I think they might

559
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: have got in if that had been the last second

560
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: field goal, but they got housed. I remember watching the

561
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: game but I got news for you. Beside Alabama and Clemson,

562
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: I think every team in the country would get housed

563
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: going into l s U. They were really good this year.

564
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: I mean they were they were awesome. They have more

565
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: NFL players than you if your name is not Ohio State,

566
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: Clemson or Alabama. So to think that that's some crazy lot,

567
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: it's just not. And this was a really really difficult decision.

568
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: But I'm also I'm not gonna flinch on this. I'm

569
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 1: not a big fan of the eight team playoffs like

570
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: u CEF. I'm sorry, Mackenzie Milton Goes. I don't even

571
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: take you seriously anymore, Washington, as long as you keep

572
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: rolling out Jake Browning and thank god this is the

573
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: last game, I don't take you seriously. I mean, he's

574
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: probably a high, high level guy. He's gonna be successful

575
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: selling insurance or running a company or on Wall Street.

576
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: He's a below average, you know, uh quarterback at the

577
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: highest level of college. He's just not good enough. And

578
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: then you look at you know, just going around like Michigan.

579
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: Clearly they were really flawed. They can't play with the

580
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: big boys who have speed. So this year, like beside

581
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: those top six in Ohio State kind of made their

582
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 1: own bed when they got destroyed by Perdue Georgia. At

583
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: least they got blown out by l s U In Oklahoma,

584
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: while they have an enormous red flag, the biggest red

585
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: flag of any red flag of these four teams. In

586
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: their defense, I think I saw Joel Clapp say on

587
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: Twitter that it is going to be the worst unit

588
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: offensive defense in the history of the Playoffs by like

589
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: forty spots. I mean, they have one of the worst

590
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: defenses in the country. You don't need to be Bill

591
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: Parcels to figure that out. You watch him play a

592
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: series and you're like, God, why are their defenders so bad? Honestly,

593
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: it's somewhat baffling because clearly Oklahoma is getting the cream

594
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: of the crop offensive players for the last two decades.

595
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson's the Joe Mixons, the you know, just you

596
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: go d. D. Westbrooks, you go on and on that.

597
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: James Andrews, guys planning for Baltimore is an excellent player.

598
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they produce wide receivers, tight ends, and running

599
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: backs and quarterbacks with ease. Why can't they find some corners,

600
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: Why can't they find some hybrid linebackers. I don't get it,

601
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: even though I do kind of get it. When your coach,

602
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: especially the way Lincoln is now, is so offensive heavy,

603
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: you just discount that side of the ball. You also

604
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: don't set the tone in practice to hit people in

605
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: the mouth when you just run spread constantly, like there

606
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: is a I'm hitting you in the mouth with Georgia

607
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: with l s U with Alabama every day at practice.

608
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: Notre Dame carries themselves like an old school program. They

609
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: want to play like a better version of Michigan hits

610
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: you in the teeth. Ohio State is the ultimate combination

611
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: because they use SEC players and they use a spread offense,

612
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: but they have an old school defensive mentality like Urbans.

613
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: Defenses on his good teams are always elite, so they

614
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: emphasize like Oklahoma doesn't. And the bet I like the

615
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: most is taking Clemson to win it all right now.

616
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: You can almost get him three to one going into

617
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: this playoff because their roster is the closest Alabama. They

618
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: have NFL players on both sides of the ball. Their

619
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: quarterback is him or Kyler Murray the most talented player

620
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback Like if two I can't go, I Alabama

621
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: can't win the championship. They're not gonna win the championship

622
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts, which just not gonna happen. Can Notre

623
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: Dame win with book met maybe, but their team isn't

624
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: as good as these other teams. Can Trevor Lawrence, if

625
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: he gets hot for two games, win this whole thing

626
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: for one hundred percent. And I think Oklahoma, you just

627
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: can't play no defense. Like listen, football has changed. The

628
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: emphasis just on defense in general has changed, but you

629
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: have to play some in playoff games, college or pro.

630
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: You can't just give up touchdown after touchdown, completion after

631
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: completion and win big time games. It's gonna be the

632
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: downfall the Camp City Chiefs. Now their downfall might have

633
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: been Koree Hunt getting in trouble anyway, but that's uh,

634
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: that's a whole another conversation. So I like Clemson to

635
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: win it all, uh, And I think ultimately at the

636
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: end of the day, I have no issue with the committee.

637
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: But there was a legit argument to be made for Georgia.

638
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: One thing, one pet peeve of mine. And you see

639
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: this on social media a lot. Is like when people

640
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: complain about athletes or what they're making and then like

641
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: a media person will fire back and be like, fans

642
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: think that they dictate people's salary, and they don't directly,

643
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: but indirectly without like, these leagues make all this money

644
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: because of people. You know, without a bunch of eyeballs,

645
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: you could not sign these gigantic media deals that the NFL,

646
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: that college football that the NBA like, they don't necessarily

647
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: the the amount of people they need in a stadium

648
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: and selling tickets has become less important as it does

649
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: the people consuming your product on television or streaming. That

650
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: is how you make a lot of money. Fans matter,

651
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: like fans not one individual, but as a group, they

652
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: pay for everyone's salary. It's not even arguable that that

653
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: is the business model, especially in the NFL. Well, one

654
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: thing that like in the NFL, one major difference between

655
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: the NFL and college is, for the most part, like

656
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 1: they're only probably on a you can count on one

657
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: hand truly impactful road venues. And plus these guys are pros,

658
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: so playing on the road is just easier. We're in college.

659
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: If you're like a nineteen year old sophomore and you

660
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: play in the Pac twelve and you're playing at u

661
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: c l A. Like going into Oregon. That's hard. You

662
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: know that that's difficult. If you're playing at Ohio State,

663
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: going into Michigan, in theory is difficult. Playing in any

664
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: SEC road environment, it's hard, like it's it's it's difficult.

665
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: You know. It does impact players I've seen. I've worked

666
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: in college, I've worked in the pros. It's light years

667
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: different in the pros, like you can easily go on

668
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: the road and just win road games. Well to me,

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00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 1: there are still like I'm watching Seattle play and their

670
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: home field advantage is real, like just from their crowd

671
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: environment and one crowd that I don't think gets any credit.

672
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: And I threw on the game because the Bay Area

673
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: we you know, I had to watch the Raiders and Niners.

674
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: I didn't get the local. The national game was Patriots

675
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: Minnesota in the New England pretty easily. Uh. And I

676
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: actually didn't even finish the game because I had to

677
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: do this. But one takeaway at least from watching the

678
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: first half, and I think we all take this for granted,

679
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: is there is an edge when you go into Foxborough.

680
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: There is a standard that has been set by now

681
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: don't give me. It starts with Brady and Belichick. But

682
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: every fan that walks in there has a massive f

683
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: you edge now is that Boston? Is that a chip

684
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: on your shoulder whatever? But they all walk into that

685
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: stadium like they are the best, and you feel it

686
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: when you're I'm just watching on my iPad this morning, like, God, damn,

687
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: it would be. I mean, Foxboro, it's not a home

688
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: field advantage because you're playing Brady and Belichick. That place

689
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: is crazy. Every person in there is going nuts and

690
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: they think that you are not there equal and they

691
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: have a lot of evidence that you're not. But I

692
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: don't think they're crowd And I heard actually Bill Simmons

693
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: mentioned this on one of his podcasts. Just made me think,

694
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: and then I watched in the game. My god, Spice

695
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: is crazy. No, it's not, just like I'm sorry, Like

696
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: if the forty Niners get good Will levis being a

697
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: great home fieldvantage, I don't know. I would probably actually

698
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Speaker 1: doubt it. I'd bet against it because I've been to

699
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: when I went to Candlestick, and I've been to some

700
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: games at the Colosseum when the Raiders have been competitive,

701
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: like the Colosseum and Candlestick, sneaky not necessarily, It's not

702
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: like downtown San Francisco, but it was kind of down

703
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: towards the airport in a rough part of town had

704
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: a major edge to it, and the Colisseum when the

705
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: Raiders are good, have a major edge to it, like

706
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, there's a home field advantage there. There was

707
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: a in the in both those two teams. Now the

708
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 1: Niners had it for a minute with hardball, like every

709
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: fan win in there that grew up on Eddie to Bartelow.

710
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: And this is what I think makes rooting for sports fun,

711
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 1: like when, especially when you root for a great team,

712
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: you have an arrogance to you as a fan, like

713
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: I pay if you. I'm sure the fox Bro tickets

714
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: probably cost you, you know, a hundred fifty minimum for

715
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: Nosebley's just to get in that you carry yourself like

716
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: a champion. And that sounds cheesy and corny and all

717
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: that bs, but I'm watching these games and think that

718
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: every single human being in that stadium believes that their team, like,

719
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: to their core, it's just better than you and you

720
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: just like it's no different than when you watch an

721
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: Alabama game or Ohio State game. You see a lot

722
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: in college sports when it's obvious they were just better.

723
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: You don't see it as often in pro sports, like

724
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: the Warriors have that right now. I used to go

725
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: to Warriors games before even Steve Kirk got here, Like

726
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: when Mark Jackson was there. It was like a fun environment,

727
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: but it didn't really have like everyone in the place

728
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: did not view themselves like they were truly better than

729
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: the best teams. Now, if you go in there, there

730
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: is an arrogance and an ego from the players to

731
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: the crowd that you can you can sniff from a

732
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: mile away, and I feel that for the Like i

733
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: hadn't even thought about it, but I'm watching the Patriot

734
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: game and going, God, they have this arrogance to them

735
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: and this element that no other team right now has

736
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Like I'm watching the Steeler Charger game

737
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: on Sunday night and thinking, God that there are people

738
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 1: in the crowd in Pittsburgh. They got big band Antonio Brown,

739
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: they made the playoffs. It feels like every year for

740
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: the last fifty years, they are it's crossing their mind

741
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: they might lose this game, because I'm thinking it, but

742
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: it never crosses anyone's mind in New England, like we're

743
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: losing because we ain't losing and we know we're not

744
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: losing at home, and that that is an advantage. And

745
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: again I'm not saying that like their crowd is the

746
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: reason that they have all these championships or whatever, but

747
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: they play a role, and I don't think they get

748
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: the proper credit because place rocks. You just do not lose,

749
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: and there is an edge that you feel on television

750
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: that I'm jealous. Living on the West Coast, we just

751
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't consume our life. And at one point in time,

752
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: actually on the West Coast when I grew up, the

753
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: Niners for twenty years were like what the Patriots are doing,

754
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: and there was an ego with the fan base. And

755
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: you know what, when you're good, your fan base should

756
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: have an ego. You should look at everyone else like

757
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: their inferior and most people, you know, I know, I

758
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: get d m s all the time. Middlecoff mail bag

759
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff slide up in them from just fans

760
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Speaker 1: of different teams, like I'm a Bengal fan, I'm a

761
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: Browns fan, I'm a Seattle fan. You don't view yourself

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00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: like that, and you shouldn't, I mean, because you get

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Speaker 1: nervous in games that you think you might lose because

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Speaker 1: you might. Where if I was a Patriot fan, I

765
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: would never ever view any game I've played for the

766
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: last ten plus years we were ever gonna lose. I

767
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 1: would never think like that. My arrogance and ego would

768
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Speaker 1: be I wouldn't even be able to talk like what

769
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: you said, who You're gonna beat us? But there is

770
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: this this like craziness to the fans that's so loud.

771
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: No wonder that Belichick and Brady went all the time

772
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: that plays Rocks. I like Richard Sherman. Uh, and I

773
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: think he's had a fantastic career. I think he's the

774
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: most physical tackling corner I've personally ever seen. Uh. He

775
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: just I mean, he's a borderline Hall of Famer and

776
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: he's he's played really well this year coming off a

777
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: torn achilles for the forty niners. But one thing, and

778
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: listen some of us, and I mean it's we all.

779
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: There are certain people in our lives that we just

780
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: dislike that we just do not like for whatever reason.

781
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 1: Some of them have valid reasons, like a guy Scrooge.

782
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: You guys stow your girlfriend, Uh, you just you did

783
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: business with him, you hated him, you just don't like

784
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: his personality whatever, And so I get it. You don't

785
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: have to like everyone. I think too often in two

786
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen, and maybe it's maybe it's always been like this.

787
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: We spend too much time trying to make sure that

788
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: people think we like him even when we don't. So

789
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 1: I respect Richard German just openly acting like he doesn't

790
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: like Russell Wilson. Here's my problem with Richard Sherman last week,

791
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: kind of claiming like Russell is not a good player

792
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: like Richard. This isn't two thousand anymore. LB's not carrying him.

793
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is an elite quarterback. He's the top three

794
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: or four quarterback right now, and he has been for

795
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. He's headed to the Hall

796
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: of Fame as a quarterback. And you know what, Richard

797
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: and in all of Twitter and so many people on

798
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: in the media, because they're so pro player, we're like,

799
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, two years ago, you gotta pay Cam,

800
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: you gotta pay Michael Bennett. This year, you gotta pay

801
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas. These guys deserve it. It's like now they're

802
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: all actually all getting kind of old, They've already been paid.

803
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: Are they going to give him a third contract? And

804
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: clearly the locker room kind of shifted on Pete and

805
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: he just said screw him. Got rid of them all

806
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: not great value. And I crushed him six months ago

807
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: because you gotta if you are going to get rid

808
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: of them, which you get rid of everyone in this

809
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: league besides maybe quarterbacks. You know, even if they get

810
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: old on you, but you kind of hold onto the

811
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: end because you should. Like the Giants. What they're doing

812
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: with Eli is stupid, but it is kind of understandable

813
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: any other position, it is not understandable. It's not okay.

814
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: Well with Russell, like they knew now, is Russell Corney

815
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 1: as hell? Yes? Do do I like get anything out

816
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: of And I follow Russell and I have forever on

817
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: Twitter and Instagram. Clearly is a good human being, you know,

818
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 1: better human being than me, probably a better human being

819
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: than you two. But if I was round him every day,

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00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm probably a little more like Richard. I think he

821
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: was corny too, and it would drive me nuts. And

822
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: early on when we won like big, I would remember

823
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: him as going, if I'm Richard, like we carried you,

824
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: and it clearly shifted these last couple of years and

825
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: everything changed, and he clearly is good enough now to

826
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: carry you to to the playoffs by himself. So I

827
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 1: get where Richard's coming from, but he's no longer right

828
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: continuing to say like he's not a good player. And

829
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: I do think that whole group of defense they believe

830
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: that they do not like Richard Truman or I mean,

831
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: excuse me, Russell Wilson beside maybe Bobby Wagner, that unlike

832
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: those other guys that were starting to diminish and play,

833
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner is still in all pro So they kept

834
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: him and wasn't really ruffling feathers and got along with

835
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: Russell just fine. But in the NFL, like Richard did,

836
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: any defensive player, i'd say, you got to be very

837
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: careful about picking a battle with your quarterback, because anyone

838
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: knows an office politics. If you pick up, if you

839
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 1: pick a battle with the guy who's making the company

840
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: more money than you, you're gonna lose. But if you

841
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: pick a battle with the guy that you're more valuable,

842
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 1: you might you might win, and hell, you still might lose,

843
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: but you've got a much better chance to win that

844
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: Like Richard, you picked a battle with a guy they

845
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: were not going to get rid of. They were gonna

846
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: build the thing around. So that is on you a

847
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: little bit. And looking back, why Seattle didn't even resign

848
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: him or even really entertain it, because clearly he's got

849
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: something laugh and they could have had him for a discount.

850
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: They didn't want him around anymore. Why would you like, Richard,

851
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: you hate Russell Like we're trying to take a step

852
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: and that we have. We have an incredible culture here.

853
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: Our lowest moment of this run was last year when

854
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: we went nine and seven and we had a ton

855
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 1: of injuries. This year we've kind of flipped it. We're

856
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 1: all young beside Russell. It's his team and we're looking

857
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: at ten and six and going to the playoffs. Baby.

858
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: And if it wasn't for this all time great team

859
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: in our division record wise, not actual team, we would

860
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: be in the mix to win most divisions. So Richard,

861
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: you're in the wrong on this one. And again I

862
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: am pro like Russell kind of drives me nuts. Uh.

863
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: He he was married and then when he was got

864
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 1: divorced after I think Golden Tate, some weird things happened,

865
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 1: you know, you start dating Sierra and you start claiming

866
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: you're like a born again version, and she's got songs

867
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: about my goodies. It's like, Russell, come on, man, this

868
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: is two eighteen. Like you don't. Don't treat us like idiots.

869
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: You know, I get you got a brand Withhold, but

870
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: come on, bro, just be a normal human for five seconds.

871
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: Like he the older I get, the more he drives

872
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: me nuts. But I will say this about him. If

873
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: you said, John, I'm gonna charge you fifty bucks and

874
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: you could watch one quarterback in the NFL, like you

875
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: only get one game, and the top whatever the quarterback

876
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: you pick is gonna have his best game. What would

877
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: just be the funnest, you know, the most entertaining for

878
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: your eyes would be Russ Like he really is. And

879
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: I've watched him very closely, just because I watched a

880
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: lot of the NFC West. Obviously the Niners play him,

881
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: and I just locked into their games. He's incredible, Like

882
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: he's an all time great player and he's only getting better.

883
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: Like it's just that there's no more argument anymore. Is

884
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: he Andrew Luck? No, I would take Andrew Luck over him.

885
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: But has he closed that gap? Yes? He has he's

886
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: impressed me. I the gap like four or five years

887
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: ago before Luck got hurt was like the Grand Canyon.

888
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: They weren't even in the same conversation. Now I still

889
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: would take Luck, but Russell can carry you. He can

890
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: make plays like with Andrew Wood. Nobody's now. Doug Baldwin

891
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: is a good player. Tyler Lockett's becoming one, but they

892
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: haven't really had any running back since Marshawn quit on

893
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: him several years ago. Now, Carson and Penny are playing

894
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: well right now. But again it's Carson the seventh round pick.

895
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: Penny looked really chubby at the beginning of the year.

896
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: You know. So Russell, like Richard in the defense of

897
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: an LB that doesn't like they were just wrong. Now, uh,

898
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: the jury is no longer out on Russ like we

899
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: have evidence he's a baller. Okay, let's get into the

900
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail bag. I'm gonna fly through see if I

901
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: can bang out like four or five because I'm a

902
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: little behind, as I always am. Because you guys slide

903
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: up in those d ms. You go to my Instagram

904
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: account at John Middlecoff, d m s are open, you

905
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: hit follow, and then you hit message. If you have

906
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: a question, and I'll answer him like this, who's the

907
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: best college quarterback in the two thousand nineteen draft. If

908
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert doesn't declare, I think that that has become

909
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: pretty clear. It's Dwayne Haskins, assuming he'll declare, which he

910
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: doesn't have to. I think he's only a redshirt sophomore,

911
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: but his talent is pretty immense. Uh, it feels like

912
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: he's gone from Ohio State. I'll be interested to see

913
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: if he plays in the Rose Bowl. Uh. If I

914
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: had to guess, i'd say fifty fifty. As the recording

915
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: of this, a lot of players have announced they're not

916
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 1: playing in their bowl game. I have not seen anything

917
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: on him. Obviously. Nick Bosa pieced out a while ago.

918
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: I mean, let's call it what it is. And I

919
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: don't blame Nick Bosa, but he quit on the team.

920
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: Like that's what he did. That happened. Now, if you

921
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: just leave your bowl game, to me, that's not quitting

922
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: on your team. What Nick Bosa did is he quit

923
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: on the team. You know, And again I got no

924
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: issue with it, but let's just call it what it is. Um,

925
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'd go Dwayne Haskins. Hey, John, big fan,

926
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: of the part. Do you think the Niners should go

927
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: after Jalen Ramsay in the off season? Maybe throw a

928
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: few draft picks Jacksonville's way, not first round. The Niner

929
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: secondary is awful, and I think Sherman would be solid

930
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: mentor for Jason or excuse me, Jalen. The problem is

931
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: you can't take a guy in the top five and

932
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: then have him become an elite player and trade him

933
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: for non first round picks. And the Niners with the

934
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: one or second overall pick cannot trade that for Jalen Ramsey.

935
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: But the Jaguars who listen fan boys, he is not

936
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 1: on the trading block. They have discussed trading him because,

937
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: as I've said, he never shuts up, which isn't a

938
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: terrible thing. He does back it up, but he also

939
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: writes checks that his teammates can't cash. He can cash

940
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: him like Larry Bird, Michael Jordan's uh, Philip Rivers. You know,

941
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: great players can talk all the ship they want. Jalen

942
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: Ramsey can never shut up. He can back it up, well,

943
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: he's got half. His teammates can't and his quarterback definitely can't.

944
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: So it would be a little It would wear you out,

945
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: say one thing. Remember when it was a it was

946
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: a question if you could redo the draft with the

947
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys rather have Jalen Ramsey than Zeke No, because two things.

948
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: Zeke is every bit Jalen's equal. He's an elite player.

949
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: And it doesn't say anything. Now he didn't get his

950
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: pended last year because it's something off the field, and

951
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 1: Jalen hasn't Like I'm not comparing them off the field,

952
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: but just as a football player, like he doesn't say anything.

953
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: He just balls like Jalen, Like when you have a

954
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: player that never shuts up, Like can you imagine Khalil?

955
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: Khalil could say whatever he wanted, but a lot of

956
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: his teammates can't play at his level obviously whatever team

957
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: he was on. So when you talk a lot, remember

958
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: the football life of Jerry Rice, Like it's fascinating when

959
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: Dion comes and it would wear Jerry down and wear

960
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: Jerry out, Like they butted heads a lot because Dion

961
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: say whatever, it didn't matter and Dion was good enough

962
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: to back it up. But a lot of guys like

963
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 1: don't like that style and it can wear guys out.

964
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I talked for a living, So

965
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: it's a little different, but we've all worked in office

966
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: settings with the one guy that will never shut up

967
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: if you're good enough, It's like whatever, but it just

968
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: naturally wears humans out. Because even me, who again who

969
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: hawks for a living, Like I just like my quiet

970
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,959
Speaker 1: time when I don't say a word, I get worn out,

971
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: you know, I Jalen Ramsey. There's gotta be guys in

972
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: that locker room. Again, players aren't dumb. They all would

973
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: tell you how great he is, because again he's an

974
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: elite player. But man, he's got to pump the brake.

975
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: So back to the uh, the initial premise of the question,

976
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: the question there, I can't see them trading for now?

977
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: Would they? Would I trade my second round pick for

978
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey? The Jaguars can't do that and they won't

979
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: do that. Sliding in your d m s before the

980
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: season started, after a night of steak beers and plenty

981
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: of smack talk, I bet a buddy five hundred bucks

982
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: that Andrew Luck would eventually be in the Hall of Fame?

983
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: Is the big fella gonna win this bet? I think

984
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do a bet that's so far out, uh,

985
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, if you're out steak beers. I think you

986
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: gotta bet like five thousand dollars because if the guy

987
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: is betting you, because you're if you're betting on Andrew Luck,

988
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: you're simply betting he's just gonna come back. If he

989
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: comes back, he's going, Yes, he's a Hall of Famer,

990
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: but he's got to play. But if you're gonna bet it,

991
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: my advice to you, if somehow can you up the bet. Now,

992
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: he probably wouldn't do that now because he realized he's

993
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: back and he's about to throw for fifty touchdowns. But

994
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: now he didn't get a touchdown last week playing Jalen Ramsey.

995
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, Uh yeah, I think

996
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's a lock Hall of Famer. But

997
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 1: here's what we know. When Andrew Luck is on the field,

998
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: he dominates. The only thing that can slow Andrew Luck down, well,

999
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: there's actually two things. One human his name's Ryan Grigson,

1000
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: and the other thing is injuries. It looks like he's

1001
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:49,479
Speaker 1: saying healthy. He's looked incredible this last I would say,

1002
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: six seven games stretch. He hadn't played him forever, so

1003
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: he was a little rusty to start and now he's humming,

1004
00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: new coach, new offense, they will continue to build. Uh.

1005
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: I think, if anything, I would try to ask your buddy, Hey,

1006
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: can we quadruple the bet, because to me, if you're

1007
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: gonna make a bet, assuming you're semi successful, that's fifteen

1008
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: years away. Hell, maybe twenty because if you think about

1009
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: he plays another he's thirty years old, ASA, he plays

1010
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: another eight ten years, and you're five years away from

1011
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. So I mean we're a long

1012
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: time away from him even being in the mix. Uh. Now,

1013
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: I would say by in like three or four years,

1014
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: we'd have a pretty good feeling like, yeah, he's going

1015
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. But right now it's still

1016
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: somewhat in question in the sense that he still has

1017
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: a lot of career left and I don't he if

1018
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: his career ended today, he wouldn't be a Hall of Famer,

1019
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: but his play on the field was Hall of Fame worthy.

1020
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, I I try to make that bet larger. Uh. Hey, John,

1021
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: big fan of the pod. Since you have been up

1022
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: in close and personal, it would be great to hear

1023
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: you speak about relationships and loyalty within the front office

1024
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: and coaching. There are numerous examples of guys who have

1025
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: fail multiple times in the NFL, they continue to have

1026
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: their name brought up. Damn, I clicked it UH and

1027
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: failed multiple times. Okay, they continue to have their name

1028
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: brought up like a Hugh Jackson being the latest. Why

1029
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: do you highly paid personnel people continue to bring an

1030
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: underperforming UH coaches or staff into their organization if it

1031
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: means risking their job. That's a good question. I think

1032
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: unlike players coaches, if you're evaluating a coach, it's very

1033
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: hard because there's not a lot to quantify besides mean

1034
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: hughes and obvious one wins or losses. But just in

1035
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: terms of like owners can't quantify how dynamic your offense is,

1036
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: in terms of like your different personnel sets, the type

1037
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: plays you run. They just know if you score a

1038
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: lot of points, if it looks fun, like what the

1039
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: local media saying about you. So it's just like with

1040
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: a player, I I can go, well, you want to

1041
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: draft Dwayne Haskins, He's thrown for forty five touchdowns, he

1042
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: plays at Ohio States. You just know he's probably pretty good.

1043
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: Like if I get a quarterback coach for Sean McVeigh,

1044
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: let's say he might be really good. He might be

1045
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: the next Sean McVeigh. He also might be the next

1046
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: Joe Philbin. You really don't know. And we've all interviewed

1047
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: people we've or we've interviewed, and we know that you

1048
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 1: can kind of fool him if it's just a short

1049
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: lived experience, and if you're smart with the references you give,

1050
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: like you can make yourself sound a little better than

1051
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: you actually are. So I think it's really difficult. Like,

1052
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: is Mike McCarthy a really good coach might be? I mean,

1053
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: the likelihood of him being Andy Reid to me is slim.

1054
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: The nut Andy and Aaron would not have had the

1055
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: relationship that Mike had. So to me, Mike has a

1056
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: personality now I wouldn't say flawed, but just type that

1057
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: is much different than Andy Reid. Like Andy would have

1058
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: got along with Aaron because he would have realized that

1059
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: he needs Aaron and he just likes the quarterback play.

1060
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: Like to me, Mike and Aaron's relationship have always been weird.

1061
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: So as might just gonna be open minded to coach

1062
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks like this comparison that he's like Andy Reid.

1063
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: He's just gonna have a second. He's kicked the ass

1064
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: in his first job. He's gonna go to another job

1065
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: and kick more. Asked it was just time to move on.

1066
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: He might, but like Andy was a lock to have

1067
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: success in Kansas City, a lock. And it's proven he's

1068
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: one of the best coaches in the NFL. He would

1069
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: win anywhere. Would mikeel McCarthy win anywhere? Like I don't know.

1070
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: He had Aaron Rodgers like back to Andy like he

1071
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: had done in the McNabb and they won with Michael

1072
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: Vick and then he got Alex Smith and now he's

1073
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: winning with my homes. Like I've seen Mike McCarthy win

1074
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: with one quarter two Brett Farve and Aaron Rodgers. I've

1075
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: seen him attempt to play with others and he sucks

1076
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: like he can't even function, Like I saw Andy win

1077
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: with Kevin Colb, with Nick Foles. Uh, you know he's

1078
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: won a game with a rookie Pat Mahomes at the

1079
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: end of it, I don't know. He just won with

1080
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: a bunch of random guys. Now Mahomes is no longer

1081
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: ran him. But you get my drift where I think

1082
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: with coaches it's just a lot more difficult and definitely

1083
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: with personnel people because like Ryan Grigson when he was

1084
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: hiring Indy, you go, God, he'd worked for Amy Reid forever.

1085
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: He's around how he Roseman, you know Tom Hacker and

1086
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of these smart guys and

1087
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: he's terrible, you know, but sometimes a guy gets his

1088
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 1: first shot. Had been like an understudy with the Green

1089
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,959
Speaker 1: Bay Packers and John Schneider, Pete Carroll takes a shot

1090
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: on him. It turns out John Schneider's one of the

1091
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: best in the league. It's just it's hard. I think,

1092
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, just hiring people, like

1093
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: evaluating good players. Isn't that difficult? Now? I think a

1094
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: lot of guys miss on players because they miss on

1095
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: evaluating the person Most players, I would say, especially in

1096
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: football works and basketball a little bit, but football more

1097
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: than anything, because there's so much, so many intangibles that

1098
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: defined how successful you are, you know, like how tough

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00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: you are, how mentally sharp you are, how how much

1100
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: you can handle. Like a lot of guys that bust

1101
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL, like JaMarcus Russell did not lack physical characteristics.

1102
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: You know, he did not bust because he could not

1103
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: physically play the position. Most guys that you know flame

1104
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: out of the NFL as players. It's because they didn't

1105
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: have the intangible stuff. Most head coaches that fail not

1106
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: for the most part, it's not because they can't sit

1107
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: on a whiteboard and draw play or understand XS and

1108
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: os or scheme. It's because they can't address they can't

1109
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: handle everything else. So it's just it's hard to It's

1110
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: just hard to find good people in anything you do,

1111
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: whatever you do. Anyone listening to this and whatever job

1112
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: you do, if you're in a hiring position, knows how

1113
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: difficult it is. I mean there's a huge I think

1114
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: I personally think there's an element of luck to it. Now,

1115
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: you can get a feel for a guy, but if

1116
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: you're only interviewing him, even if it's just a two

1117
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: day interview, like you spend all day with them, you

1118
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: go to dinner with him, you spend the next day

1119
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: with him. There's a lot of intangible stuff that you

1120
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: can never truly define. That works for coaches, that works

1121
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: for players, that works for personnel people, that works for

1122
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: a dude that you're hiring, you know, be your CFO

1123
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: or you know, to be your web designer. I don't

1124
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,919
Speaker 1: know it works for everything. Hey, John, I love the pod.

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01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: Recently me too. I was just wondering what the prerequisites

1126
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 1: were to becoming an NFL scout and what goes into it.

1127
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm a lifelong Raider fan. I'm always curious. I'm always

1128
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: scouting for them, so just curious, I feel you. I

1129
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: mean my path as I worked in college football. I

1130
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: went to cal Poly undergrad. I didn't play. I just

1131
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: started working for the program, and then that kind of

1132
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: led to a graduate assistant job at Fresno State, which,

1133
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: obviously you know, Pat Hill was producing a bunch of

1134
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: NFL guys. I got to do that for two years

1135
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: in the recruiting office. I kind of learned the just

1136
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: basics of what you look for in different players. We

1137
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: had a bunch of NFL guy eyes on that team,

1138
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: and it just one thing led to another, and I

1139
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: got my chance in Philly. Pat was good friends with

1140
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, got me an interview. I got hired that day.

1141
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: But I mean I worked with people former college players,

1142
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: I worked with guys that had never played. I worked with,

1143
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, people from all different backgrounds. I I think

1144
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: you gotta get involved. For the most part, my recommendation

1145
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: to people that want to get involved would be don't kidding,

1146
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: but if you do, it's it's always a starting college

1147
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: football and now, especially for young people, if you're going

1148
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: to a school with a football program one A or

1149
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: one double A. I mean I started cal Pauly. Now

1150
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: we had a couple of NFL guys. But it's just

1151
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: get involved in recruiting and then see if you like it,

1152
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: because it's not gonna be for everyone because usually it

1153
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: takes long hours. It's not that it's not as glamorous

1154
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: as you think, Like scouting was not that glamorous. Hell,

1155
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: it was kind of miserable some of the time. You know,

1156
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: if you I know people in New England, like New

1157
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: England is not a happy, go lucky place, Like they've

1158
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: won more than anyone and I'm telling you they don't

1159
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: smile that often. Now working for coach read I've been lucky.

1160
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: I had worked for two head coaches that were awesome.

1161
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: That's why when Chip came in, I was never into

1162
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: that philosophy. Now it wasn't necessarily my choice, but it

1163
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: was the best thing that ever happened to me. But

1164
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: my start and my path is different than most. Uh,

1165
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: there's not like, you know, you want to work on

1166
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: Wall Street, you know, you gotta go to you gotta

1167
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: go to an IVY league school. That's not necessarily the

1168
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: way of scouting works. I mean, you know, historically a

1169
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: lot of former players, but now I think that's kind

1170
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: of morphed. You know, people from college football, some people

1171
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: that started as like training camp interns. Uh. Some people

1172
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: go to law school. Like Howie Roseman was a low guy.

1173
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: That was his end and then kind of switched into it,

1174
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: you know, as his career kind of took off within

1175
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: the organization. Mike Tannebaum, who's buddy of mine, the same

1176
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: kind of deal. They actually tannabaum get I think gave

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01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: how you start. So you know, I mean there's just

1178
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: there's no, like like any job in life, there's no

1179
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: for the most part, just set path. Uh. And scouting

1180
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: is definitely a unique one because there's not like there's

1181
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: no scouting degree. You know. It's not like I could

1182
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: have walked into you know, San Diego State and been

1183
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: like I want to be an NFL scout. Really I

1184
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: knew I had to work in sports because in school,

1185
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: really my entire life, I never really listened because never

1186
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: really did much for me. Like the only class I

1187
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: ever remember really enjoying, like accounting and stuff that I

1188
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: and now I like a lot of business stuff. I

1189
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: watched the NBC, but I remember the business classes I

1190
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: took like put me to sleep. The one class that

1191
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: I thought was really cool I took this in college

1192
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: was a sports journalism class. It was just about writing,

1193
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: and that was a bust class. By four I ever

1194
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: took account Polly. I loved it and I ended up

1195
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: writing for the school newspaper after. But it's just you

1196
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: just gotta faull if you really like it and you

1197
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: really want to do it. Uh, you know you can

1198
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: find a way. But there's no like I can't just

1199
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: tell you, like do this and that equals this, because

1200
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It got a little lucky. Things just kind

1201
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: of happened. Uh, And just it's funner to be a

1202
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: podcaster anyway. And thanks for listening. Keep the questions coming

1203
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff, keep firing them and uh, I'll keep

1204
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: answering them in the Middlecoff mail back. Appreciate you guys listening.

1205
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: I hope you're having a good week December. And I

1206
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: know it's like fifty degrees in the Bar area. I

1207
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: am freezing. So if you live somewhere else where, it's

1208
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: actually cold. Fifties really are like like it's really cold.

1209
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: But there is a great time a year in football,

1210
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: like you know, just gets cold, snowy, rainy. It'll be

1211
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: interesting to see how offenses, like are we still gonna

1212
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: be putting up in Kansas City when it's a twenty

1213
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: degree sleet storm. We'll see, you know, I don't know.

1214
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep my eye on this level of football

1215
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: as the weather changes because it's there's nothing like a

1216
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: good snow game, and we know we got some coming

1217
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I appreciate everyone listening. Have a good week,

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Speaker 1: and I'll see you guys again Friday. M