WEBVTT - Project Tori continues: One Corner at a Time 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:16.840 Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio Podcast. Hi, Tricia, how 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:17.240 are you? 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:19.520 I'm great? How are you doing? 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:21.280 That? Is nice to meet you. 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:26.119 Nice to meet you virtually. I know. I was trying 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:28.080 to think if we've ever met. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:30.960 I don't think we have. I don't think we've ever 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:31.600 worked together. 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:33.159 Our past happened crossed? 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:37.720 I think I would remember. No, I don't think. So 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:38.840 it's nice to meet you again. 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:39.880 Nice to me. 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:41.160 I love your glasses. 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.200 Oh, thank you. I have a very important question before 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:44.760 we get started. 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:46.599 Oh my god, please anything and everything. 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:52.479 Then I swear please to really okay, not that I'm planning. 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.720 I love you that I'm planning on it, but it 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.600 tends to fly out of my mouth. So I just 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:00.440 want to make sure that that's okay, and hold on. 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.000 I want to make sure they seem that I can 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:04.200 see you better. 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:05.880 You don't want to do that. 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:06.640 I do. 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:10.800 There you are, Hi. Hi, So do you want to 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:14.520 start by telling me what you're struggling with or do 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.680 you I know you've met with some other organizers. 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:23.720 So yeah, my biggest thing at the moment is I 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:24.600 have five kids. 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:27.319 I mean, you know you're a busy mom. You're working. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.440 I have five kids, I have pets, I have a 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.920 life that keeps on going whether you know stuff's here 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.280 or not. So I tend to put that on the 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.480 back burner, like, Okay, stuff comes in, we'll put it 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:45.640 over there. This kid needs this, this business needs this. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:47.840 I gotta go work today, I gotta go film. And 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:53.240 then that stuff never gets put away. But in the 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:59.520 long run, we are a very close, big family in 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.880 a house that I would say at this point it's 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:10.520 less about organizing and more about deciding to remove it, 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:12.280 let go of things, let go. 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.639 Yeah, And it's definitely. 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:19.280 I know in the past my friends have said like, oh, 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:20.800 are you okay to let things go? 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:22.320 I'm like, yeah. 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.359 When I was younger, I put emotional attachment on things 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:29.840 that came in or that I had, I acquired, I 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:31.480 recently got divorced. 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:32.520 In the last two years. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.880 It's been a lot of change for my family and 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:39.040 I and I definitely that is not something like I 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.240 call it doing a gut check. Now when I do 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.160 a gut check, I'm like, do I care about any 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.320 of those stuff? I'm like, no, I just want I 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:50.560 just need physical hands on your halfway. No one's ever 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.240 told me that great I'll take it. 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.760 Oh, that's half the struggle right there, the single mom thing, 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:00.359 single working mom thing, five children part of it. That's 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.960 the other part of it. But if you're already at 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:05.280 the point where you're like, I've been holding onto this 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.440 stuff and I don't know why, or I'm ready to 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.720 let it go, or I only want to keep things 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:13.520 in the house that I love, use need, you know, 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.480 those three things. Everything else, it's like it's just taking 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.919 up valuable real estate in your home, and it's taken 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.079 away from like I mean, you know, I mean, it's 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:28.400 like fishot butter adds to anxiety. It prevents our kids 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.800 from focusing the way that they could or should be focusing. 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.520 You know, it just it's a distraction. It's a visual distraction. 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.520 And then plus the overwhelm and the and the how 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.920 daunting it is to have to tackle that mess or 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:45.880 that that closet or that area, it's also adds to 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.240 stress and anxiety and all that stuff. So that stuff, 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.680 you know, if you're already at the point where you're like, 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:53.800 I only want to keep things in here that serve 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.720 me and serve my kids, that make me happy. I 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:58.240 don't want to say bring me joy because that's not 0:03:58.280 --> 0:03:59.360 my thing, Like that's. 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:00.000 Something else is say. 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:02.640 But I've always said, like, if I had to get 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.360 rid of everything in my house that didn't spark joy, 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.120 I'd be left with my kids in a bottle of vodka. 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:10.240 That's it. That's all that I would have to do 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.480 in my house, do you know what I mean? So 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.960 it's not necessarily about sparking joy, but if you raise 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:19.400 it and you don't love it, yeah, and you don't 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.200 need it, like it's just taking up space. 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:23.360 You know for sure? 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.520 Yeah, I definitely was at the point. 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.800 Yeah, I said recently, like I'm fine, everything can go 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.119 except anything breathing in the house. 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:36.400 Yeah, yes, because exactly the thing. You know, clothes they 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.440 need to wear, and food that they need to eat, 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.520 and things that when you look at it, you get 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.840 all happy and you know, like there's obviously other stuff 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.760 besides just our kids, but most of it, I would say, 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:48.920 most are things that they're just taking up real. 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:53.000 Estate, you know, for sure? And for sure yeah. 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.480 Yeah, So you're at that point now where you want 0:04:56.520 --> 0:05:01.080 to and what is stopping you from aside from the 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.120 time because you have five kids, I have two and 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:07.400 I'm a single mom and I have a hard time. 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.120 Finding time, whether it's five or one. 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:09.560 It's hard. 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.839 Mom wins is hard, but I would say exponentially harder 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:18.919 the more children. Okay, give yourself, you should, absolutely, because 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:20.880 that's a huge part of it. Like give yourself a 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:25.240 little pat on the back because you're already you're managing 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:28.839 so much. Already, you know, but you're already managing so much, 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.600 I guess, is what I'm saying, you know, And so 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.599 it's hard to find the time, just even five minutes 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.760 of your own much less time to sit down and 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.520 tackle a closet or an area or a room or whatever. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:42.599 You know. So I get it. 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:48.960 Some slack there, need I need human hands. Yeah, but 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:53.120 also like our brains, Like we're both creative brains, but 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:56.839 probably our brains work slightly different because I am not 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:00.839 an organized person by nature. 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.440 Do you get your kids to school a lot of time? 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:04.240 Yeah? 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.440 Do you remember their events? Do you remember when they 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:12.240 had an assignment to everything? So you're an organized person in. 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:17.080 My brain, but not physically. Okay, does that make sense? 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:22.120 Yes, I guess it does make sense. Like spatially organized, 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.040 I guess there is a difference between that. But you're 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:29.120 able to stay organized when it comes to other people, 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.719 your schedule, your work schedule, You're able to be organized 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:36.040 with your planner and all that correct. So it's really 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:40.479 just a matter of instinctively knowing where to put something 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:44.040 away or where something goes, or how to clean this up. 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:45.480 Is that the distinction? 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.440 I guess, So, like I wouldn't typically look at a 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.159 space and be like, oh, the dishes should go in 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:55.120 this cabinet, Like that's but I'm a super creative like 0:06:55.200 --> 0:07:01.479 design person. Yeah, but I lack that like instinct, and 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.360 I don't know if that plays a role in going 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.880 further where things just sometimes don't get put away. 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:12.640 Probably because my main thaying when I'm working with clients 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:20.480 is to put things away or to organize in such 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:24.520 a way that it makes sense for the space. So 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:29.360 everything in this office, stuff that I need or use 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.960 in my office other than like a place to sit 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:37.640 and something pretty to look at, Everything in here belongs 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:39.520 in here because this is where I use it. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:40.360 Right. 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.200 If you're in the kitchen and you have it, do 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:47.120 you have a dishwasher at your house? Okay, and you're 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.920 the dishwasher, your plate, your everyday plates, your everyday glasses, 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:55.280 your everyday utensils should be as close to the dishwasher 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:58.280 as possible. That makes sense. Do you know what I mean? 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.440 Your laundry thre thing should be close to the laundry 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.560 room your Do you know what I mean? 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.920 Tricia? Yes, I just realized I have good instincts. Then, see, 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:09.800 so I don't know what the problem is here. 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.360 Well, it may be just a matter of the you're 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:16.520 putting things away, or you unpacked things when you moved 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.560 in in a way that made sense for the space. 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.080 But perhaps you have too many things, some things that 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:27.080 you don't necessarily need. Yes, and those spaces, even though 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:30.400 it makes sense these belong here, it's too much for 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.559 what the space that you have been given. Do you 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:37.440 know what I mean? Yes, Like take a closet, sorry, 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:38.440 go ahead, go ahead. 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:45.079 No, no, no no. For instance, it's just like kitchen every 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:51.720 day plates, you know, cutlery, dishes, all of that, yeah, glasses, everything. 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:58.559 This particular kitchen wasn't designed to house all of. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.000 That pretty much. 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.679 Not good storage, face, not good cabinets. 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:07.920 And so now we're leasing. But it's beautiful. So when I, 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:12.240 when the kids and I walked in, we're like. 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.040 Oh, this beautiful open kitchen. 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:18.679 Look at the outdoors, beautiful view, open space. They can 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:20.480 be on the couch and I was like, I'm gonna 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.680 put a sectional here TV. You guys can be, you know, 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:29.560 together while I'm cooking off the kitchen. Love fell in 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.720 love with it, right, And I know better at this point, 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:35.400 Like I think I've lived in seventeen houses over the 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:40.400 last yeah, throughout those years, so I knew that. I 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.880 wasn't thinking it was like a new life for us. 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.400 And it wasn't until we moved in putting stuff away, 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.760 I'm like, oh, shoot, there's only two cabinets and they're 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.000 over here. Wait where do we put the bread? There's 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:57.559 no It was like yeah, yes, okay. So if you 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:00.040 don't have enough storage, what do you do when you 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:01.359 have a big family. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.959 Well, you have to rethink the storage that you've been given, 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:09.920 you know what I mean. I'm always adding shelves to 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.720 existing pantries. Sometimes the pantries are built out. If you 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:14.400 have a pantry, do. 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.240 You have a pantry, It doesn't have a pantry. 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.440 You don't have a fucking pantry. That's my first bomb. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.960 That's my first staff bomb, because. 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.040 Do I drop it? Because I say, oh, fuck, every 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.920 day there's no pantry, and then I feel guilty, like, 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.080 oh my gosh, well I should expect a pantry, but 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.840 I do have five kids. Some sort of pantry would 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:36.400 have been great in this house. 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.360 Is there a cabinet that's supposed to be used as 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:44.120 a pantry or a weird closet of the kitchen that 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:45.480 you don't know? 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.080 Nothing, there's not, there's really not. I would say the 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.920 closest thing to that would be a corner cabinet that 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:57.480 when you open it it has like the spin around inside. 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.640 I hate those, the little lazy Susan corner. 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:05.079 Yes, that, from what I can see, is the only 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:10.440 pantry ish And then under the counter, but the kitchen 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:14.679 stools are there. There's a few short with. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:20.280 Shelves, okay, so not easy to access under the not 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.120 practical okay, so those. 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.960 Really counter the bread the cereal okay? 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:31.560 And is there are there like small appliances or tupperware 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:36.840 or things like that that are taking up prime cabinets 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:42.480 in your kitchen? No? No, how many cabinets do we 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:45.280 can wish? I wish you were in there right now, 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.520 because those cabinets that are hard to access, like under 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.360 stools under like on the kitchen island, you know, behind 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.360 the stools, that's for stuff like the waffle makers and 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.600 the lenders. Are the things that you don't use that often, 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:04.199 Like that's out of the way, not easy to access, 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.360 don't need it every day, maybe don't even need it 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.640 every week. You know, those corner cabinets the same type 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:13.440 of thing, like, yeah, smaller appliances, things like that. 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:17.160 And then do you feel like it's best to start? 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.400 This is I mean, this is overwhelming for anyone that, 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:24.200 like I always said, when we move, we'll do it 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:27.679 before we put stuff away. Yeah, But then the kids 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.800 and I were moving, you know, getting a divorce. I 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.240 was alone and it was like my friend Ruth Anne, 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.560 who's on here, she was the only one helping me. 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.800 I'm like, oh my god, So again I moved to 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.200 a house that I didn't sort things out. 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:42.480 Before we put it away. 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.800 So here we are again. Do you believe now in 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.720 order to start sorting through what to give away you 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.280 should take everything out and see what you have? 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:52.439 Or how does that work? 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:52.760 No? 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:54.959 Not all at once? No, not all one? 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.280 Right I start. 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.120 I literally like to start corner by corner because otherwise 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.360 it's way too daunting to think about like I have 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.160 to do a page one rewrite on my entire house, 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.680 you know what I mean. I love to I love 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:12.839 when I get hired by somebody for an unpack and 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:17.000 org because like it is so important before you even 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.360 like settle in that first night, just knowing that everything 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.360 is in a place that makes sense for that thing. 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:22.800 You know. 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:26.000 Yeah, but if you didn't do that, like most people don't, 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.480 that's okay, but don't think of it in terms of like, 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:30.600 oh my god, I have to rearrange everything in one day, 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.520 starting like your most problematic area of the area that 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.160 every time you walk into this corner let's just call 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:40.239 it a corner, it's like immediately you tends up, Immediately, 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.439 you feel overwhelmed, Immediately you want it. 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:47.120 It's just wonder it's where I am right now. Okay, 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:51.920 it's I hate seeing this phrasing. It's the formal living room, 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:56.520 which like the parlor, yeah, which takes up kind of 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.320 a good chunk of the house, which moving into it, 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.800 I was like two houses ago. I'm like, I'm never 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.520 doing a formal living room because the kids don't use it, 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.360 because the fireplace is there, the TV's not there, They're 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.520 not going in there. Let's be realistic. They're all like 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.120 crouched in the den that's connected to the kitchen because 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:17.520 there's a big, big as TV. So it's this room. 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.600 I'm in the corner for my podcast. I'm looking at 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:21.040 the room. 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:22.120 It's an open space. 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:25.400 I can see straight on one side through to the 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.280 foyer to the front door. I can see the staircase 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.960 leading upstairs, and then to the right, I could see 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.360 straight through to the kitchen and then a window here 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:34.160 to the backyard. 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.119 Okay, it sounds gorgeous. 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.960 By the way, it's beautiful. My family doesn't use it, 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:45.640 and now they can't use it because what happened right 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.840 I got I was sick around the holidays, had like 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:53.280 nothing major, just sinus infect number. It was ridiculous, got 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.960 vertigo from it and I'm still getting over it. It was like, 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.040 and you know, it's true, when mom goes down, it's like, 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.800 no shit, yeah, no great, not great, but. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:04.120 Things. 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.720 A lot of things come in for us during the holidays, 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:10.080 which I'm grateful for, but it was kind of like, oh, Mom, 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.000 can you open this box? I'm like, I can't just 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.200 put in the living room. Well, now the living room 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:16.920 has a bunch of stuff that it's like, okay, I 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.680 think we got to start with this room, right, Yeah, 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.840 so there's donations here, there's things to put away. 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.920 What happened with that room is it was never assigned 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.800 a purpose because you knew that the kids weren't going 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.480 to be there or whatever, and so that it became 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.120 like a little dumping ground thing. 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.240 I love that you you could show you pictures of 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.400 this room. Yeah, it was really the only one that 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:39.920 I really decorated. 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.680 Oh yeah, oh yeah, so you decorated it. 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:46.320 Oh, I decorated it. I didn't. 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:48.360 I didn't do the shelves. 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.080 The shelves I'm looking at them right now and there's 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:55.880 only two sets have all of my like antiques and pieces, 0:15:55.920 --> 0:16:02.240 but it's not staged. Okay there, okay, but I did. 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:08.840 I did put painting and I put side tables, chairs, 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:13.800 coffee table, lamps. Yeah, it was really pretty. 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.640 And the couple months to entertain in there or to 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:20.880 do your podcast, like what what instead of they gave 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.440 it as a formal living m h, you're using it 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:29.240 for your podcast? What would you call it? Let's take away? Well, 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.560 I was going to say take away the formal living room. 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.360 Idear wait, what did you say? Did I message out? 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:37.760 I said it was a joke, shittle, I did need 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:38.120 a joke. 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.400 It's I guess, a huge space. 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.560 I'm assuming when we were moving and it happened fast, 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.080 and I had it was it was a lot of 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:54.920 pressure and chaos, and I had one night where I 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.120 was laying in bed. I was like, okay, before we moved. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.880 We were in an airbnb before and I was like, 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:02.880 when we move into this house, and I had pictures 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.560 of all the empty rooms, I was like, you know, 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.960 I was like, I know, a formal living room, it's 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.920 not going to matter. So I did think shed turned 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:16.480 it into like a playroom for the kids, like a 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:21.199 gaming room. Okay, I wasn't sure, but it's such a 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.760 huge room. But it's an open room, so you hear everything. 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:35.080 Okay, can I ask a cup two questions? How, of course? 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.320 Is how old are they? 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:42.000 Eighteen seventeen, fourteen, thirteen and eight? 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.520 Okay, so playround probably, I mean maybe the eight year old, 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.399 but I mean I'm assuming that she he. 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.919 But when I say playroom, I don't mean like a 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:55.320 kid's playroom, something that's functional. They could play board games, 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.879 they could we were going to put a table, a 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.800 gaming table so they could play like you know, backham 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:04.080 and chests and not be like over there. And then 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.120 I was gonna put maybe a TV and they could 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:12.040 do their gaming here. Do you didn't I changed into 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.480 a formal living room that no one will ever see. 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:15.200 And I don't know why. 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:22.640 The badass boss lady like, why if you do your 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.280 podcast in there? My guess is that your kids have 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:29.399 a ton of space that is their own. And no, 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:34.760 they have their bedroom off of the kitchen, the. 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:38.480 Little Yeah, it's like a corner connected to the kitchen. 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:39.200 It's one room. 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:41.280 Do you have a space that's just your own? 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:43.000 No? 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.520 No, And it's not ideal, Like right now doing this podcast, 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:50.840 I'm in the corner of this open space, first floor 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:53.080 formal living room. 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.520 Like I said, I could see every into the house. 0:18:56.560 --> 0:19:00.960 So it's non ideal, like a home office would be 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:05.040 great because anyone comes to the door, you know, yes, 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.200 deliver's a package. The dog barks, the door unlock, someone 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.960 opens it. My kids are going in and out upstairs, downstairs, 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:13.720 they want to go get some to eat. I'm like, 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.280 I'm doing a podcast, but it's like that's not fair. 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:21.440 No, But but you like doing your podcast in there, 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:23.800 even if you do not like doing. 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:26.000 I do not like doing it here, and they're now 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:26.680 working to the bar. 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:29.480 I hate doing this podcast. 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:33.479 I love doing this podcast. I do not like this corner. 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:36.679 Would you use the room if you weren't stuck in 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.200 the corner, Would you use it as a podcast as 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.080 a podcast room if you weren't stuck in the corner. 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:45.440 No, because it's an open stated like it's wide open, 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:47.359 and I don't think it's fair to a family as 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:53.280 big as ours that. And also there's times when I 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:55.840 want to be talking about stuff freely, and I still 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.639 do because I'm me, But I don't want every all 0:19:58.680 --> 0:19:59.760 my kids to hear. 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.439 You know it's like yeah, I got it. 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:06.439 Yeah, But with a family of five, it's really to me, 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:11.000 I feel like kind of unrealistic to we were I 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.960 felt we were lucky to five find a five bedroom 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.200 to lease in La in our in our school district, 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:24.000 right for the price we pay, that's amazing, it's affordable. 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:27.280 And but to find a six bedroom house like that's 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:28.040 never going to happen. 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:30.920 Yeah, So it's challenging. 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:35.040 Specially so that might be some an issue or a 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.159 problem that you want to address a year from now 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:41.119 or what. Let's just focus on the now part, which 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:44.439 is this corner in this room that you're sitting in 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.280 right now, which has become kind of like the dumping ground. 0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:48.639 To do with it whatever? 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:49.240 Right? Yeah. 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:53.320 So one of the things I like to tell my clients, 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:57.200 which is, like, things come into our house all the time, 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:00.240 all day, every day, whether it's an Amazon package, whether 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:08.879 it's gifts, whether it's purchases, whatever, anythink that's not food related, right, Gifts, purchases, packages. 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:12.760 Kind of a rule of thumb here is that if 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:15.719 if it's something, if it's not something that you're so 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:20.240 excited about, so excited to use, so excited to wear 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:25.359 that you immediately unpack it and put it on, or 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.879 immediately unpack it and display it, or immediately unpack it 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:29.840 and put away because you. 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:32.400 Know you're gonna need it tomorrow or something you probably 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:38.320 will never use it. So so I like to tell 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:41.000