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Speaker 1: I could teach anybody how to embrace their sexuality without

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Speaker 1: showing my skin or even talking like that. But yes,

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Speaker 1: we have to understand that. When we were talking about

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Speaker 1: like pop your throat pussy earlier, I was telling you know,

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Speaker 1: I tell people like your throat resembles the inside of

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Speaker 1: that gives birth, and you're constantly giving birth. So whenever

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Speaker 1: you're casting spells over your life, you're giving birth to

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Speaker 1: what you want in your world. So that's sexuality. You know,

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Speaker 1: Sacral energy is not only just like how you use

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to good Night, Bad Choices, America, and I'm Meila.

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Speaker 3: Happy Wednesday, Happy Hemp Day, bitches. You guys were in

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Speaker 3: Atlanta right now. We're at the sci Content House, a

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Speaker 3: girl Samaya aka Sexual Essentials aka Boss ass Bitch, who

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Speaker 3: has a content house in Atlanta. So if you're on

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Speaker 3: YouTube right now, make sure you go check out the

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Speaker 3: STI Content House. If you're on YouTube, make sure you

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Speaker 3: subscribe because I always tell y'all, but we always look

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Speaker 3: really fine. You put on makeup and today my titties

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Speaker 3: are out because I always have the titties out for Samaya,

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Speaker 3: and she is happy.

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Speaker 4: She's here right now.

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Speaker 3: She's actually sitting behind the cameras looking like she's watching Netflix.

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Speaker 4: Watching this episode.

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Speaker 2: You might be watching porn from this position. She's looking

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Speaker 2: very comfortable.

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Speaker 3: She has a dad hat on a blanket, and I

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Speaker 3: crust boogers.

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Speaker 1: Blast my friend.

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Speaker 3: But I still bust some cities out for y'all. So

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Speaker 3: we're on intube right now. Make sure you go check

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Speaker 3: us out.

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Speaker 2: Every time I think of Atlanta, I was thinking, welcome

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Speaker 2: to Atlanta, where the play is play.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just not like a player anymore.

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Speaker 2: I got here and I said, let me call my hose,

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Speaker 2: and I said, I'm not a player no more.

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Speaker 5: Because I have some zero hose.

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Speaker 2: I barely have any friends. I only have two friends.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna go spend time with all

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Speaker 2: I started looking through my phone.

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Speaker 3: Then you realized you can't the hold are not your friends.

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Speaker 3: You can't call them anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I realized that because as soon as I was

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Speaker 2: like trying to hit up people, he was like, can

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Speaker 5: I was like, no, no, I was just trying to

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Speaker 5: get a free dinner. But no, now I can't even

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Speaker 5: do that. You stupid, but just kidding?

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Speaker 1: Are you last to get free dinners? Still?

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Speaker 4: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: Is that a I didn't learn Orlando have like an

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Speaker 3: agreement that both of you guys can get free dinners.

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Speaker 5: I didn't ask.

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Speaker 1: You usually don't ask.

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Speaker 2: You don't ask if you want, if you want it

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Speaker 2: to be a yes, you just do it and then

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Speaker 2: you are you just you just get in trouble later

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Speaker 2: you don't. I was gonna get trouble because it was

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Speaker 2: just going to be a free meal. I wasn't going

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Speaker 2: to be like a head giving session. So that's why

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Speaker 2: I couldn't even get the meal, because I cut it.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm an adult now, I'm a thirty five year

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Speaker 2: old retired semi ho not a full time hume. Just

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Speaker 2: which is, you know, it's working out very well. I'm

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Speaker 2: doing a lot of host shit over there. I might

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Speaker 4: I love that for you.

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Speaker 2: Thinks doing a lot of host shit at my house

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Speaker 4: I'll make a note of that when I'm sitting on

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Speaker 5: You already knew that, girl, I know.

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Speaker 1: But like people wiping down things.

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Speaker 2: First of all, alas have access at their own house

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Speaker 2: thinking about like, let me last saw this when my

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Speaker 5: I'm just last.

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Speaker 1: Quarter, so I've been thinking about this.

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Speaker 4: Type of shit.

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Speaker 3: So I do sell your ship. I mean, if I

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Speaker 1: I mean too.

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Speaker 5: I hope everybody is cleaning up there after that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they are. And if you're listening right now, bitch,

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Speaker 1: please clean up.

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Speaker 3: Wash the covers of your couch if you squored it

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Speaker 4: Bitch.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's certain things like I'll lay out stuff, and

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Speaker 5: Just for this purpose.

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Speaker 2: I would hate for everyone to come over and just

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Speaker 2: I think I think, I mean, it might make you

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Speaker 1: We did have that episode with shampoo, drum Pussy perfume.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what did she say that, like when you're ovulating, populating.

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Speaker 3: You put your finger inside your pussy and then you

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Speaker 3: put it on like behind your ears, everywhere you put perfume,

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Speaker 5: This this is a life hat. Not going to use that.

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Speaker 5: But you know what, I really did notice.

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Speaker 2: I guess maybe because I'm in partnership that when I'm ovulating,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you are really going in right now. It's

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Speaker 2: getting pregnant, well, I mean that's what our bodies are

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Speaker 5: So just on a scientific level, not that anyone's getting pregnant.

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Speaker 1: Birth control.

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Speaker 4: Please clean your pussy juice off your.

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Speaker 2: Couch, especially if you're like me, because I'm a wet,

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Speaker 2: my pussy juice is to squirt yet, but it's coming.

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Speaker 2: So once, just one time.

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Speaker 3: Just did you like notice like yourself getting out of

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Speaker 2: It was like one of those like staycations we did

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Speaker 2: So maybe I'm done with Tantra school. I'll hit another,

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Speaker 2: unlock another level. Anything going on, new, anything going to

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Speaker 4: It's almost my birthday.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's what is this?

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Speaker 4: Witchy magic? Make your magic October? Make your own magic October?

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Speaker 1: Was that is that it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Make your own magic October.

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Speaker 3: So October's my favorite month of the year for many reasons. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: it's because a queen priestess, badass bitch was born Maka Amy,

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Speaker 3: and then also because it's Halloween, and that's also my

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Speaker 5: We've been playing Halloween off its for like ten months.

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Speaker 3: Also, I feel like the weather's really good around this time.

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Speaker 3: all the bitches are dressed like hoo cheese, it's freezing.

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Speaker 5: It's true.

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Speaker 2: In La, it's like it's hot ninety eight degrees. And

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Speaker 2: then the day of the Halloween when you want to

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Speaker 2: I'm just sweating and looking cute. Also, our live show,

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Speaker 2: A it's in LA and it's kicking off our tour,

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Speaker 2: and b it's my wife's motherfucking birthday.

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Speaker 5: So we're going to be turned turned with the capital T.

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Speaker 2: What did the kids saying turn? No, that's not what

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Speaker 2: be doing. Okay, it's gonna be lots of tequila, so

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Speaker 2: maya shut up. There's gonna be lots of debauchery, lots

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Speaker 2: lots of titties, and we really encourage you to come

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Speaker 2: with your Houcci gearon, because we don't want to be

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Speaker 3: Yes, October twenty first, at the Teogram Ballroom, it's Confessions

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Speaker 3: of a Good Mom and we are still waiting for

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Speaker 3: more people to call in and leave their confessions on

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Speaker 2: Can we dress like nuns? WHOA is that too much

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Speaker 2: like Hucci nuns? Because it's confessions? Are only the priests

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of cool, right.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the Christians are going to love that,

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Speaker 1: The Christians believe in the nuns umbrella. It's a humbreller, you.

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Speaker 5: Know what I mean. It's it's a umbrella.

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Speaker 2: Also, this month, this month of October is also very

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Speaker 5: The thirteenth.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 5: I love it. I'm like, I can't wait to wear

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Speaker 5: black that day.

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Speaker 4: It's getting dark, witchy energy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, which is so appropriate for our guests today because

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Speaker 2: we have a very special guest today who is very

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Speaker 4: She is she's focused on it. I guess yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think people get people get scared of the darkness,

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Speaker 2: I are really with the dark shit, but now everybody is,

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Speaker 2: especially black people. I think black people getting really scared

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Speaker 2: where you'd be talking about with that devil shit, but

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Speaker 2: it's not really devil shit. I mean, we all have

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Speaker 2: a little devil in us right anyway, Sorry, Christians, come back,

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Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 1: Don't turn off the radio. Today.

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Speaker 5: We have a very special guest.

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Speaker 2: We're here in Atlanta, and we've been really wanting this

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Speaker 2: person to come on our show for a very long time.

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Speaker 2: So we're very, very excited to have Tatiana the trap Witch.

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Speaker 4: Oh wait, hold on, your mic is so far I

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Speaker 4: know he put.

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Speaker 1: It so far away, supposed to be that far. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he said I could project my voice. Oh oh okay,

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Speaker 1: I could project my voice into it. I could pop

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Speaker 1: my throat post to tell you guys.

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Speaker 5: Pop that throat pussy queen.

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Speaker 3: So the feminine Liberator, the trap Witch, the mindset coach.

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Speaker 4: I love I would just love all of yours. I

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Speaker 4: just love your whole page.

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Speaker 5: It's just like so much duality. I love duality.

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Speaker 5: Preach hallelujah. I told you it was church.

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Speaker 1: It saved my life. I told people all the time

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Speaker 2: I mean that you can't you can't really access your

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Speaker 6: To me, shadow work is all the work that needs.

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Speaker 1: To be done when it comes to overcoming your own stigmas,

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Speaker 1: Even good people's karma is to at times attract people

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Speaker 8: That's something that's a stigma for you, that's avoiding you

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Speaker 2: And so I think sometimes by avoiding the shadow work,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: That discriminative awareness.

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Speaker 2: I learned this word recently, discriminative awareness from Tantra, and

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Speaker 2: it's literally like it took me a life. They kept

443
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Speaker 2: saying it, and I know what the fuck they were

444
00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,360
Speaker 2: talking about, until finally I realized. It's like I think

445
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:05,040
Speaker 2: sometimes we're taught that, you know, like you're not above anyone.

446
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 2: You know, we're all human and we're all equal, and

447
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,919
Speaker 2: this is true, but like everyone does not deserve to

448
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 2: be in your energy field all the time. And like

449
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 2: some people would say, like oh, that's ego, but it's like, no,

450
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Speaker 2: it's just truth. You know, everyone's at a different level

451
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,640
Speaker 2: of lessons and sometimes if you poured you deeply into

452
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Speaker 2: someone who's not where you're at, you are going to

453
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Speaker 2: inevitably drain yourself of the energy that is supposed to

454
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Speaker 2: be yours. And so like the part about like the

455
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Speaker 2: fire element is like discriminative awareness, is that, like, everybody's

456
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Speaker 2: not where I'm at, and because I'm protective of my energy,

457
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Speaker 2: I'm going to discriminate against some motherfucker is because you

458
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Speaker 2: are not on my level, nigga, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: And that is okay.

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Speaker 2: In fact, that is my right in this and and

461
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Speaker 2: my right and my purpose in this realm to be

462
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Speaker 2: aware and also discriminate against some people because I recognize

463
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Speaker 2: that you still have some lessons to go and it's

464
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Speaker 2: not my responsibility to bring you up here, and you know,

465
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Speaker 2: and sometimes it's hurts. And that's another thing about like

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Speaker 2: your fire element. It's like attachment obviously, like we're humans

467
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 2: and we're supposed to be connected, and you know, inevitably

468
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 2: we come into the world with other people. You know,

469
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Speaker 2: you're birth through a womb, but you know, and there's

470
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Speaker 2: also healthy attachment, but there's a lot of negative and

471
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Speaker 2: unhealthy attachment, and we are bound by it, especially women,

472
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Speaker 2: because we are nurturers and because we want to love,

473
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Speaker 2: we want to pour into and then we get clouded

474
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Speaker 2: about who we need to be attached to and when

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Speaker 2: it's time to cut those attachments off and so like that.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm not one of those people. For sure,

477
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Speaker 5: I've been one of those people.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm just really like, I'm grateful for this

479
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Speaker 2: conversation because I think that is something a lot of

480
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Speaker 2: women struggle with, is like I love this person, I

481
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 2: care about this person, even in family situations. But you know,

482
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Speaker 2: it's like if someone is drowning you or hurting you

483
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: and the attachment is no longer healthy, you have to

484
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Speaker 2: have discriminative awareness and cut that shit off.

485
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Speaker 1: Do you know what limerence is?

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Speaker 2: No?

487
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Speaker 1: Okay? So I learned this term on TikTok that limerens,

488
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Speaker 1: like a lot of women right now are suffering from

489
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Speaker 1: limerens like limerence, like love obsession, and there's a lot

490
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Speaker 1: of predatory content. In the past six seven years, it's

491
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Speaker 1: been put on the internet between tarot readings, twin flames

492
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Speaker 1: soulmate karme and women are literally becoming even more obsessive

493
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Speaker 1: because now we have, you know, these things coming out.

494
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Speaker 1: We have the capability to watch people that were obsessed

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Speaker 1: with through the internet.

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Speaker 6: Like I don't know about you guys, but like when.

497
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Speaker 1: You came out, I was like, man, I see a

498
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Speaker 1: little bit of Joe and myself and how I used

499
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Speaker 1: to be. Because this is how it is women. We

500
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Speaker 1: operate now at times where women get so obsessed and

501
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Speaker 1: hyper fixated and attached that they're you know, stalking. And

502
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Speaker 1: I always tell people all the time I made a

503
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Speaker 1: pay with post probably like three years ago, and women

504
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Speaker 1: came for me. I was like, bitch, I don't give

505
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Speaker 1: a fuck. I said, women can be predators too, too,

506
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Speaker 1: And I was like, y'all, bitches gotta.

507
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Speaker 7: Take accountability that when your dark feminine energy is not

508
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 7: integrated at high levels, you can become the most succubius, manipulative,

509
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Speaker 7: stalking ass bitch.

510
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Speaker 1: And I know that because I've been there before, you

511
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, I've been there before. Like I

512
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Speaker 1: take care of both my shit, you know. I like

513
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Speaker 1: ran through an apartment gate and left the letter under

514
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Speaker 1: his door because he wasn't answered about his message and

515
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Speaker 1: he's like, you don't think that's a big much. I

516
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: was like, no, you weren't answering, you know, And it's

517
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Speaker 1: the truth. So yeah, people have to have that spiritual discernment.

518
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Speaker 1: And a lot of the women that I work with, again,

519
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Speaker 1: we are in the lack, we are in the scarcity,

520
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 1: so that attachment is hard to cut because they don't

521
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,959
Speaker 1: they're not aware of how infinite they are because of

522
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Speaker 1: self worth issues. And to even what you were saying

523
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Speaker 1: about moving purposefully, Yes, the more I feel spiritual you get,

524
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: the more funny moving bitch you gotta be. I admitted

525
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: this the other day. I was like, I am a

526
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: funny moving bitch and that really pisses people off sometimes

527
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: because they're like, she's so calculated. I have to be.

528
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: When you get really aware of your energy, most successful

529
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Speaker 1: people are strategic with their energy. So I can't afford

530
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Speaker 1: to waste time to be in cycles long or whatever.

531
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Speaker 1: So yeah, you can afford to be a funny moving

532
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Speaker 1: bitch because so many women are not cognizant at times

533
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Speaker 1: of what they're giving access to their energy, and so

534
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Speaker 1: I really advocate for women being more mindful, not creating

535
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: these attachments and knowing that you have to take accountability

536
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Speaker 1: for your part. And a lot of women don't for that,

537
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: limeer and shit, They'll be like, what do you mean, Like.

538
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Speaker 2: Well, the deliberance, let me learn a newer deliberate shit,

539
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: limerent shit is it's it's fucked up because we are

540
00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: born into a society that places that places our value

541
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Speaker 2: and our worth in like very in like entanglement with

542
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Speaker 2: our relationship status.

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Speaker 1: I'm about to go in on that in a second.

544
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: So we're born into this society where if you come out,

545
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: you know, you come out, you turn three, and they

546
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 2: turn on the fucking Disney movies and there's a Prince

547
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 2: Charming and this bitch is running off into the sun

548
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: on a fucking fucking chariot, you know.

549
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 5: And then you're like, oh, that's what I'm supposed to do.

550
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to have a man check, I'm supposed to

551
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Speaker 2: get a finished school check the house, picket fence, and

552
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: have babies boom, you know, and like if it doesn't

553
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: go in that order, then you're like you're steady examining,

554
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: like what's wrong with me? Instead of being like, oh,

555
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: I'm fine, I'm perfectly good. But these you know, a

556
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: lot of these men have some vibration reasing to do.

557
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 2: And until you do that, I'm not going to lower mind,

558
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 2: you know. And it's so our worth is so tied

559
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Speaker 2: into our relationship status and our marital status. Is that

560
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 2: like our self worth is frankly confused, and so we

561
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Speaker 2: become obsessed with companionship and relationship status and even become

562
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Speaker 2: you know, like your online looking at relationships like I

563
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: was Miella's and I'm like obsessed, you know, like, oh

564
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 2: like that looks I want that.

565
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 5: I want that because it looks a certain way.

566
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Speaker 2: But the truth is is like as I think, as

567
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Speaker 2: we become spiritually sharper, those the tests will come at

568
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: a higher rate and it will become harder to like

569
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Speaker 2: just like I'm back in like when I ued to

570
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Speaker 2: be a Christian and there was a part they were

571
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Speaker 2: like God will test you.

572
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 5: Now that you're Jesus's child.

573
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Speaker 2: The devil will test you to see if you're really

574
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: like okay, this is like, but in reality, as you

575
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: become spiritually sharper, there will be tests because it's testing

576
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: your understanding of your self worth. It's testing if you

577
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Speaker 2: really are devotion to your devotion to yourself, to your faith,

578
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 2: you know, and your alignment with yourself and your self worth.

579
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Speaker 2: And so sometimes it will be a fine ass, smooth

580
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 2: talking kind of seems smart, but maybe you're not that smart.

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Speaker 9: Man that will dig you down and bring you in

582
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 9: because everybody knows the womb is the easy way, and

583
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 9: you like fucking raw, and then you're confused, and then

584
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 9: you're like, oh, actually, actually no, I can't help him.

585
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: I can't save him. No, bitch, you cannot. You have

586
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: to only save yourself. But a part of our nature

587
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: and a part of our socialization is that we are

588
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 2: supposed to be coupled or we are supposed to be,

589
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: you know, saved in ways by this like divine masculine.

590
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: And sometimes the test is in sharpening your skills, and

591
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: the sharpening of your skills is like do you love yourself.

592
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Speaker 5: Enough to have discriminative awareness?

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Speaker 2: And so I just I feel like, the higher you

594
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: get in your spiritual practice and your self worth, because

595
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 2: I think those are one and the same, you will

596
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 2: have tests, and a lot of times I do come

597
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: in the forms of love, because that is something that

598
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: for women is easy to tempt us with because of

599
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: how we're socialized. And I also believe the more you're

600
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: in alignment with yourself and the more you are practicing

601
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Speaker 2: discriminative awareness and you're cutting off people and being a

602
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: funny acting bitch, but not really a funny acting bitch.

603
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: It's like you are going to be constantly tested with

604
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: your alignment to see if you're ready to go to

605
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 2: the next level. And I think sometimes it's like it's

606
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: in cutting off the fat that you get to graduate

607
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: to the next level because you're showing the universe, you're

608
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: showing spirit that oh no, I really know my worth,

609
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 2: I really know who the fuck I am, and it's

610
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Speaker 2: not depending on a relationship or a person, and it's

611
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: not like and it's about me. It's not about me

612
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: saving somebody else, you know. And I think that's difficult too,

613
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: because again we're teachers and we're mothers, and that's what

614
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: we do. We teach and we love and we pour

615
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: into But it's like you have to know when when

616
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: it's the right person or people to do that for.

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Speaker 3: I agree, I agree on everything is said, but I

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00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 3: also I also am thinking about Limerens in yours. I

619
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: think what you said about that too, is that like

620
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Speaker 3: in the age of social media, like we are looking

621
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Speaker 3: on Instagram and like ingesting all these different and pictures

622
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: of what love is supposed to look like, and even

623
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: even memes. I think about some of the like the

624
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: things that I come across on my algorithm, and I'm like,

625
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: why are you attacking me? Or like and like but

626
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: also knowing like it's either they're speaking to exactly how

627
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: I feel and then I want to reshare that, or

628
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: they're attacking me, and then I'm like, I feel insecure

629
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 3: about this. This is how I feel. Should I leave him?

630
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: Should I you know what I mean?

631
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 4: And then or like, oh, yes, this is what love

632
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 4: is supposed to be like?

633
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: And just how the internet really, I think makes it

634
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: such a tricky place to feel secure in your spiritual spirituality,

635
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 3: especially if you don't have like a foundation and a

636
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: grounding in it, and especially if you don't have a

637
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: grounding in your self love and self awareness. You can

638
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 3: see these memes and start to dictate your life based

639
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 3: on what these things are, what these like, what's being

640
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: fed to you. I've literally seen things that have pissed me,

641
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 3: like I'm triggered now and now I'm mad at you

642
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: because I saw this shit. This I wasn't even mad

643
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: at you ten minutes ago, but now I'm reminded of

644
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: some dumb ass shit that you did, and now I'm

645
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 3: questioning my self worth and whether I should be with

646
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Speaker 3: you and like and then like, so, I don't know

647
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: if that's how Limerens also works.

648
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: It does work like that too, And you know, I

649
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: think we have to be so careful because like again,

650
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 1: I think that there's so much predatory content out there

651
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: right now, even down to like relationship podcasts and people

652
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: who are positioning themselves as relationship gurus like I'm gonna

653
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: be transparent, Like do I think every woman should listen

654
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: to Shira seven? No, some of the advice that she

655
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: gives is kind of like sex work advice, and I'd

656
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: be telling people like not every bitch is built for that.

657
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: So we have to have as individuals or really strong

658
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: internal compass. Even for me, there are certain femininity coaches

659
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: that are on the internet and what they would position

660
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: as femininity. I could never follow that advice because I'm

661
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: very in tune with what my not only who I

662
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: am as an individual and my my makeup, but also

663
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: what my mission is like for me, I'm not a

664
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: traditionally feminine woman, according to certain femininity coaches, because I

665
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: have to be very masculine in nature, not only to

666
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: protect myself, but to protect my community and my women

667
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: and my army coming behind me. So I think it's

668
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: really important for people when they're on the internet and

669
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: they're taking advice or they're taking things in firstly acts

670
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: like does this really apply to me? Like what's my

671
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: internal compass set up? Like does this applied to me?

672
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: Should I take this advice? Because again, this is how

673
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: cults get started, you know, Like it's not fucking cults

674
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: get started.

675
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 6: You know, cults and people going off their path.

676
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: You know, I when I did my Unbound preesess class

677
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: the other day, I was like, quite honestly, I don't

678
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: listen to a lot of male spiritual leaders in the

679
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: black community because if I'm gonna listen to these men,

680
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: they gonna leave me to fucking help because what they

681
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: would say is a respectable way. I'm not that bitch,

682
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to be a bitch that's

683
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: position next to a doctor umar or a nineteen key.

684
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: I'll be you know what I'm saying, I'll be well

685
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: like Yousha kai War and was like, you know what

686
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like wop. So again, I think when we're

687
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: taking in things, do not take everything as doctrine. You

688
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: have to learn how to take the meat and throw

689
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: away to bones. But a lot of people don't know

690
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: how to fucking think for themselves. And that's true.

691
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: Like that you're speaking of something so like hitting it

692
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 2: on the nose about like what is your position in

693
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: this field here? And it's like, yay, yes, you have

694
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: to know yourself. But like like you said, yeah, there's

695
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: a lot of motherfuckers, a lot of black male leaders.

696
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 5: That yeah, we're not you're we're not going to get along.

697
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 5: And We've had some of.

698
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: Those people on our show and I'm like, I can

699
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 2: listen to it with a grain of salt, but I

700
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: also know a lot of those I don't want to

701
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: like generalize, but a lot of these male leaders do

702
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: not respect the female spiritualists and leaders in the same right.

703
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,719
Speaker 1: Especially if they look like us. And you said this

704
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: the other day, you know why this is gonna blow

705
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: your mind. It came to me the other day the

706
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: same shit that they've done to women, where they're like,

707
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: you're misrepresenting God, you're a spiritual woman, you're mis Like

708
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: when Kiki Palmer came out with this stuff recently and

709
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: they're like, she's misrepresenting him. I was like, why is

710
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: there always so much pressure put on women or how

711
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: we represent men? Why aren't we having this conversation about

712
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: how they fucking represent us. We're not having as many conversations.

713
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: And some of this indoctrination comes from what we've put

714
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: on women and what a spiritual woman should be, how

715
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: you represent God, and then we put it in the

716
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: spiritual community with these men. You guys aren't worthy to

717
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: be represented those next to us. And I was just like,

718
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: but who says I even want to sit next to

719
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: that type of men? But again, certain women are literally

720
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: changing who they are so they could take a seat

721
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: next to these men. And that's not even who's formally

722
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: for them sometimes.

723
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Like, just because I'm not wearing a head

724
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: wrap and I'm not buttoned up to the fucking top

725
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: button and I'm wearing a kitten fucking heel, does it

726
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: mean that I'm not I hate I fucking hate them.

727
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: Well, you know, one thing I came to the realization

728
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: and I said this the other day because you know,

729
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: I get I'm gonna say I get tested. I'm not

730
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: gonna say I get attacked. I get tested from many

731
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: different sides because I'm truly an intersectionalist, Like I'm biracial,

732
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm a witch, I'm a former sex worker. Like when

733
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: you put all that in the pot, it's like, why

734
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't you get attacked, bitch, because you represent so many

735
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: intersections that are taboo for people to talk about. But

736
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: what I said the other day was and I listened,

737
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: had a brain fart, but what we were saying about

738
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: the kitten heel, okay, dark feminine, I'm not like I

739
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: went to make DHD thing for a minute.

740
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 5: So what I.

741
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: Realize is for me, sometimes I get attacked because I'm

742
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: too much of a feminist for men that don't want

743
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: me to be in power. And I'm too much of

744
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: a misogynist for certain women because I'm too sexual. And

745
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: so what I realized recently is that there's so many

746
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: women that do identify with this like overtly sexual, dark

747
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: feminine energy, and we do get jealousy, we do get

748
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: attacked by women because it looks to them what the

749
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: male gaze is about. Well, it's truly just who you are, right,

750
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: But I realized the reason why that gets mistaken is

751
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: we also don't talk about goddess veneration. We don't talk

752
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: about goddess worship like we are very fluid women where

753
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: we're like vigial titties look good in that pope amount.

754
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: But people assume that that's just for the male gains,

755
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: when this is who the fuck you are, bitch. I

756
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: like my titties out, I like a seven inch heeld,

757
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: my life, my toes out. It's like, it's not all

758
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: for men, and we love it. Away from the conversation,

759
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: it's all for the male gaze. Well it's not.

760
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: And that's really hard for a lot of women curious

761
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: and men, yes, men, but.

762
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 5: For women to really download and understand.

763
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because they've been shamed and so they've suppressed

764
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: that part of thomselves because for acceptance, because they've been

765
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: it's been fucking shoved down their throat that if you

766
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: do this or that it's for attention. And so when

767
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: you when you take that in and then you see

768
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 2: a woman who's embodying her full self, whatever that looks,

769
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 2: your first impression is that a you're going to project

770
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: because I've never been allowed to do that and so

771
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,479
Speaker 2: I can't understand it. And b you must be doing

772
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: this because you're trying to take my nigga and because

773
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: you want a lot of attention in your home.

774
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: Well, I think, yes, that's one layer, but I think

775
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 3: the other layer is that is that also women have

776
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: experienced the trope, like they have experienced a man choosing

777
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: the other woman based on her comfortability in her divine

778
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 3: or dark feminine.

779
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 5: Which you know which will happen.

780
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: Because if I'm comfortable in all parts of myself, I'm

781
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: automatically going to be attractive to people males, and like

782
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: that is another thing about like even this conversation is

783
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: about suppressing the darkness or suppressing sides of yourself for acceptance,

784
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: is actually going to do the opposite, because until you

785
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: accept all parts of yourself, no one else will. And

786
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: it's like when I show up and like maybe my

787
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: titties are out, and maybe you're confused by it and

788
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: like you don't like it, but you're also like kind

789
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 2: of intrigued and gravitate towards it's because you are seeing

790
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: an example of someone who is showing up in their

791
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: full self and so automatically it's it's it's appealing.

792
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 5: But even if you can't understand it.

793
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: But I think that like women are so have been

794
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: so used to suppressing the natural parts of themselves because

795
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: let's face it, you cannot take the sex away from

796
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: the woman. It is all encompassing. And so if you're

797
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: trying to avoid your sex, you're trying to avoid your sexiness,

798
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: your sexuality, you are going to be partitioned, you know,

799
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: like I don't know if that's the right word, but

800
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 2: you're going to be you know, you're segregating yourself.

801
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 5: It's part to mentalizing yourself.

802
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: And so, you know, even for me, even growing up,

803
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 2: I've always been like very in tune with my sexuality,

804
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: very in tune with my body.

805
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: I do not like clothes.

806
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 5: If we could have a topless podcast, I fucking would,

807
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 5: but you know then that would we be on only fans.

808
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: But can you bring up a good point? This is

809
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: the point I've brought up to my audience a lot,

810
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: is because sometimes people will want to say that you

811
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: were indoctrinated through like the hyper sexualization of MTV. I

812
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: was like, no, when when I was four years old,

813
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: I was watching Pamela Anderson. I was watching pretty well.

814
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: I remember watching Roger Rabbit solely to watch Jessica. I

815
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: was like, put the.

816
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 6: Bitch on with the big literally like I like her.

817
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 5: I do like her.

818
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: And when you think think about this, think about when

819
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: you look at her message, she goes, I'm not bad.

820
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: I was just drawn this way.

821
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 10: And for a lot of us as dark femininess, who

822
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 10: are going to be overtly presenting that, because it's one

823
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 10: thing to be dark femine, but then to present in

824
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 10: that way too, You're gonna get those taboos and you're

825
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 10: gonna get this stigmas because you're literally a representation of

826
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 10: a lot of feminine rebellion.

827
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 5: And so I did.

828
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: I did like a poll one time on my page

829
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,479
Speaker 1: and I said, as a woman, did you have any

830
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: archetypes or you know, women in movies or whatever that

831
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: you really loved that were aged inappropriate for your age?

832
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: And have you found yourself coming to embody that energy

833
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: or are you still ashamed because you want to? And

834
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 1: it was so wild how many women were like, Wow, yes,

835
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 1: I was drawn to this. And you know, I didn't

836
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: want to play with Barbie's I wanted to watch dance

837
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: all queen. You know, I wanted to watch Zena. I

838
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: wanted to watch Pam out with her today, you know.

839
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: So I truly believe that a lot of us do

840
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: come knowing our archetypes, but we're not allowed the space

841
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: to explore them, and we just don't have the parents

842
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: that can guide us, you know, because I do think, yes,

843
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: there are things that are age appropriate, but having the

844
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: right parent to guide you and be like, okay, well

845
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: this is your expression, like I'm gonna let you do it.

846
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: My mom was always open with me with like letting

847
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: me dye my hair and makeup and stuff like that.

848
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: But for the most part, you know, like I've always

849
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: been who I've been, and when I look back, I

850
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: was like, that's vision who the fuck she was. And

851
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: so really, when I went through my spiritual awakening, it

852
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: was really just a return to who she always knew

853
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: she was. And for a lot of people, it's like that.

854
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: But a lot of people were just like, oh, no,

855
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: you do this for the male gaze, Sorry, are you

856
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: do this? It's like, no, bitch, I wanted to be

857
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: Jessica Rabbit from the Towels for honestly, god, I.

858
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 3: Think that's really I think that's a really good question

859
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 3: to ask yourself, is like what were the archetypes that

860
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 3: you were drawn to?

861
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: Were you just a child to thee? Yeah, because again like

862
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: when you think about like did you have anyone in

863
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: your like no, be that It's like no, like that's

864
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: that's just what my spirit.

865
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 5: Wanted, which you were attracted to.

866
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: Because I was always drawn to the dark, like the

867
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: dark witchy, like saying kind of like evil person, not

868
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: even and like because I just feel like she was

869
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: powerful and she was mysterious, and there was always like

870
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: an element of sexuality attached to it.

871
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: Always I would tell people all the time, like I

872
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: remember watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer when I was really young,

873
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: and not just not the series, but the movie and

874
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: being enamored with it. And then I remember, I literally

875
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: remember to this day when the series came out and

876
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: I was like standing in the living room and I

877
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: heard the music. I was like, what's that? Or when

878
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: the Craft came out? Craft the Craft.

879
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: I always say about that, and I was like I

880
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 3: wanted to be Who's the darkest one? Miranda the crazy

881
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: love Nancy and then she went a little off the

882
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: deep in the end, but in the beginning, I was like,

883
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 3: I fucking love her. I love her, And they were like,

884
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: you don't like the like the light skinned black girl,

885
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 3: that's more your vibe.

886
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 4: Like, no, bitch, I'm Nancy dark one.

887
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: But you know what that That's another thing I was

888
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 2: just thinking about this conversation before I even got here,

889
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: is that, like the beauty of childhood and of children

890
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 2: is that they're just blindly attracted to what they're they're

891
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: attracted to and without question and same like as a child,

892
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: we were fucking in the valley, watching the craft light

893
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: as a featherfucking stuff as a board, doing the Ouiji

894
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: board and shit, and you know, as we get older,

895
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, is that some white people?

896
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 5: Shit, No bitch, you're just a witch from birth.

897
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: And same Jessica Rabbits and like even like me saying

898
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: I saw Daphne and the whole foods and she didn't

899
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: have braun. And I remember as a child thinking I

900
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: want to be that type of mom. Like these are

901
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 2: the things that I was automatically just drawn to not

902
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: and then later in my life I question why I

903
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: was this way or if something was wrong with me.

904
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: But like there's this like in a sense and freedom

905
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: that children come into the come and come into the

906
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: earth with that we take away from them and even us,

907
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: like we both have daughters, and my daughter is like,

908
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: you know, even they're they're young, they're eight and they're you.

909
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 5: Know, almost nine.

910
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: But I see her like dancing to certain music certain

911
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: ways like like me, and I'm like, oh, that's dope,

912
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 2: you know, like you were in tune with your sensuality

913
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: and it does not scare me. But when I was

914
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: a kid and I wanted to fucking work glitter, my

915
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: mom was like, you're being crown you know.

916
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god. One of my best core memories. Let

917
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: me tell you. There was a point in time we

918
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: lived in Pennsylvania in the nineties, just for a little bit,

919
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: and I would go to the mall and we walked

920
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: past Baker's and I'd be like, Mom, can I get

921
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: the thigh high boots? Like I would beg her, I

922
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: would scream. I was like, I want white thigh high boots.

923
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with And eventually my mom was like, okay,

924
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: they were flat. She got me them. But I'm like,

925
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: why was I always obsessed with the hooker boots of

926
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: the time I was a kid, I love them, you

927
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And my like my best haul

928
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: we ever as a child, my mom made me a

929
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: zena warrior princess outfit.

930
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 5: She like took one of her bootyas me too.

931
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: She took one of her boosier's and she like bedazzled

932
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: it with like things for me, and then she like

933
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: made a little leather skirt. She like cut it and

934
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: made the pleats and I like had no titties of course, right,

935
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: but like it was this booty. I was like, I'm

936
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: seen again. Like a lot of us knew our archetypes,

937
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: and I've always identified with the healer, the warrior, and

938
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: the whore. Those are those are my archetypes.

939
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 5: How many archetypes are there?

940
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: Do we know?

941
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 3: No?

942
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's different, yeah, but I just

943
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: I've come to realize, like and again, like there people

944
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: are gonna tell you, like you can't be all of them?

945
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: Why not, like you jam at different layers.

946
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: And then that goes back to the conversation about like

947
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: this this idea of how we're supposed to show up

948
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: as healers or in the spiritual world or if you're

949
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: a whore, just a whore and that's all you ever

950
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: be and all the and like even the spiritual men

951
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: and how they're like really.

952
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 5: Perpetuating a lot of the Like I.

953
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: Feel like it's like deepening the patriarchy in some way.

954
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: This is c it's.

955
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 3: Creating and even more divide of like Okay, well now

956
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: if you don't look like this as the healer, then

957
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 3: you're still a whore.

958
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 1: Actually you're a bigger horror.

959
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: But it really is understanding that as a healer and

960
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: when you have a community and you have a tribe,

961
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 2: like you said, it's like, yeah, I'm feminine and I'm soft,

962
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: but I also have to know that there's going to

963
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: be a part of me because this is true, like

964
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: that have a masculine energy because bitch, who the fuck

965
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: are you talking to?

966
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 7: You know what I mean?

967
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 2: Because there are going to be men and people who

968
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: are going to challenge us in our in our power

969
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: and in our purpose, and we have to kind of

970
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: have some of that energy to kind of deflect and

971
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: and stand up for what we believe in because we

972
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: live in a society that's so heavily one way and that,

973
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: and we are like literally the pieces of the puzzle

974
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 2: in this time that are breaking women out of that place,

975
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: and so in order to do that, we can't be

976
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: easily fucking confused.

977
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: I've had I've had a woman tell me that she

978
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: thought my femininity was too aggressive, and I was like, well,

979
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to be that bitch to tell you that

980
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: feminine leadership is not easy. One of the things that

981
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: I think a lot of women, especially coming into the

982
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: spiritual leadership space, is.

983
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 6: Like, this is gonna be easy for me as women.

984
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: No it's not, And you're going to have to have

985
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: a level of aggression and boundaries and really show up

986
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: because there are literally women watching you waiting for you

987
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: to stand up for yourself so that they can feel

988
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: confident too.

989
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 3: You know.

990
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: I went on a podcast recently that really wasn't necessarily

991
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: something I had done before. I was very used to

992
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: being on podcasts with like, like minded individuals, and I

993
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: got thrown into like a Man of Spet podcast. It's

994
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: called Anxiety Issues podcast one that we got thrown like

995
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: the guy, the guy that I went head to head with.

996
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: It was a good exercise for me because I was like, Wow,

997
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: this is like what we're really dealing with, And a

998
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: lot of my following was like that was just a

999
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: waste of your time. And you know, I said it

1000
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: wasn't because even if what you guys got for it

1001
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: was seeing me advocate for myself and stand on my

1002
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: square and no matter what the fuck he said, I

1003
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: wasn't backing down.

1004
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 6: That's what y'all needed to see, and I said, and

1005
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 6: I didn't.

1006
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: Have to fight him. I was in my femine energy.

1007
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, bro, all right, right, Like that's

1008
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: what y'all needed to see, because you also give too

1009
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: many these men your energy. Some of these podcasts like

1010
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: women being angry in the comments like please, bitch, take

1011
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: back your energy because a lot of that's energy harvesting.

1012
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 1: You know, they're just using this shit to get rich

1013
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: off of women who are angry. Yeah, And I also

1014
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: held women accountable in my following because I said, I've

1015
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: done so many great podcasts with men who are healing,

1016
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: who are doing the work, that are beautiful, and y'all,

1017
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: bitches be crickets on this ship and you went in

1018
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: for this man. So you're also a part of the

1019
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: problem what you give your energy to.

1020
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean that's true. And the energy, the

1021
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: energy harvesting is a real, a real thing. And I think,

1022
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 3: you know, for you talk going back to like being

1023
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 3: aggressive or whatever I think, and talking about the light

1024
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: in the dark, like I think the light feminine that

1025
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 3: like we hear on the internet, the soft woman, which obviously,

1026
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: like I think women we all want to be able

1027
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 3: to encompass that as well, is more like the nurturer.

1028
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 4: It's like the one the woman that walks with compassion,

1029
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 4: who is kind.

1030
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 3: And then the dark feminine is the one that's ready

1031
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: to transform, the one that's in her sacral energy that's

1032
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 3: you know, is the more aggressor. And I think you can't.

1033
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,959
Speaker 3: You have to have both. You do even as a mother,

1034
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 3: like you have to have both. You can't be walking

1035
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 3: in your soft feminine when when a danger comes towards

1036
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 3: your child, no, bit, that's when that dark feminine comes through.

1037
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: And it's not necessarily a negative, it is just protection necessary.

1038
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell people all the time, soft life has

1039
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: to be maintained. If you just think you're gonna get.

1040
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: You can't light you have because you have to have

1041
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 3: hard life in order to know what soft life is.

1042
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: You have to do. There's the duality that has to either.

1043
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: Self life is not linear, like I always even though

1044
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: I tell women like you can be yeah, you would

1045
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: want to align yourself, but maybe let's say with a

1046
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: consistent partner that allows you the most self life as possible.

1047
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: But as women, you're often attracting the masculine that's at

1048
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: the level that your masculine energy's at. So I always

1049
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: when I coach my women, I'm like, your masculine energy

1050
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: kind of has to be like your lawyer, like, what's

1051
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: your agreement? So when a man's coming to the table

1052
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 1: with you, it's like, hey, this is my good sess,

1053
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: this is her contract, like these particulations to her agreements.

1054
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: Can you meet that? Yes or no? And if the

1055
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: answer is no, it's like, okay, well nice meeting with you.

1056
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: We're not coming into contract. But a lot of women

1057
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: are like, I don't understand why he can't show up

1058
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: as the man that I was like, because your inner masculine,

1059
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: your inner lawyer, has not presented a contract.

1060
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 6: An agreement that you're happy with.

1061
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: But again going back to Limericks, going back to lack,

1062
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people just settle. People settle and they.

1063
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: Don't advocate for themselves, and they just assume like this

1064
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: is as good as it's going to get.

1065
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 5: And there's no other guys that you know as good

1066
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 5: or whatever.

1067
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna like hope and pray and pour

1068
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: and hope that you get to where I want you

1069
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: to be at.

1070
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: And even back to what you said earlier, like I

1071
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: found I've been on two podcasts spaces in the past

1072
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: months and this has happened for men and women alike,

1073
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: where people want to weaponize singleness right where you're like, well,

1074
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: you're such a bad spiritual bitch and you're so this,

1075
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: if you're such a catch, why are you single? We

1076
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: don't talk about enough that the higher ranking you are

1077
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: as a spiritual woman, the harder it is in the

1078
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: dating pool. And you know, going back to to like

1079
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: some of the tests that we get is having an

1080
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: enemy in our fucking bed. You know. Like one of

1081
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: the best movies I've watched recently to understand spiritual attack

1082
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: was The Pope's Exorcist.

1083
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 5: I just saw that.

1084
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 6: You know what I loved about it so much was

1085
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 6: that demon like literally, you know, like resurrected itself.

1086
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: And was like, I'm going for the top dog, right

1087
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: He's like, I want the top dog because if I

1088
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: get to the top dog, there's so much damage.

1089
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 5: I can do right right, right again.

1090
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: Whether it's spiritual women in leadership or just powerful women.

1091
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: Men have been used a lot because we have human

1092
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: female hearts and we want love. But you have to

1093
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: ask yourself what are you willing to do to have it?

1094
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: And there's times where like, yeah, spirit sends these tests

1095
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: where the fucking enemy sleeping in the bed, these spiritually

1096
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: just be real.

1097
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 2: And that's why I even made the comparison of like

1098
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: what this is how I learned about this, like when

1099
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: I was like in church, when in eighth grade like that,

1100
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: that that was the only way I could put it,

1101
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: like the test.

1102
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 5: But that's the thing.

1103
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: It's like, no matter what you title it or whatever

1104
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 2: like package you put it in it, whether it's Christianity

1105
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 2: or Catholicism or Judaism and whatever the fuck, there's always

1106
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: going to be test. And so like, the spiritual realm

1107
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: is a spiritual realm. And when you're a spiritualist and

1108
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: you're a spiritual warrior and a spiritual person and a

1109
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: spiritual leader, it doesn't matter what the title is or

1110
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 2: the label is, or what religion you are practicing. The

1111
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 2: further you get in your practice, there will be tests.

1112
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 2: And I like that you use the exorcis of the

1113
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: Pope as an example because it's true. There was like

1114
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: the the demon, the devil had strategy. My nickig let

1115
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 2: me tell.

1116
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: You something I tell people all the time. I was like,

1117
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: I fucking give dark energy so much of their due

1118
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: because the motherfuckers work over time. Have you ever heard

1119
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: this pot It's like Chris Janner works hard, the devil

1120
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: works harder. But I was like, no, Like I meet

1121
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: so many mpaths and light workers that are scary. They're like,

1122
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm so tired, I want to give up. And I

1123
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: was like, that's why that energy whooput you'll ask because

1124
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: your work ethic. Like I was talking with my friend

1125
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: the other day about like you know what, Kim got

1126
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: dragged for saying, you bet just don't want to work.

1127
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: It's like it's the truth, Like you need to fucking

1128
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: work your ass off. Will be doing your work because

1129
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: the work ethic of dark energy. And there's people who

1130
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: want to avoid it. They're like, oh, if I don't

1131
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: go outside, then I will or if I don't do this.

1132
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: So many people avoid their calling and their purpose because

1133
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: they're scary of this energy. When especially light workers and

1134
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: empaths were built for this shit. Uh, Harry Potter didn't

1135
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: go to the school fucking love and light. He was

1136
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: in the school gets the defense, agains the dark arts.

1137
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: So again, people don't want the spiritual discernment. It's like,

1138
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you want the spiritual discernment? But it comes

1139
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 1: more responsibility, more responsibility. But yeah, the dark the dark energy,

1140
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: like their work ethic.

1141
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: Is impeccable because they're constantly walking through it. Yeah, you

1142
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 3: have to walk through like like you said, I'm listening

1143
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 3: to you talk about just like the the light and

1144
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 3: energy workers that want to live in just the light

1145
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 3: and light energy. It's like, well, yeah, bitch, it's easy

1146
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 3: over there, isn't it. So when something does come your way,

1147
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: you're exhausted and you haven't really put in the work

1148
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 3: spiritually to arm yourself for and do the work for

1149
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 3: these type of moments, for these types of this, for

1150
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 3: the work that you're actually being called to do.

1151
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: Their spectrums you're about. So again, when you think about

1152
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: we have people who are unawakened, who are living in

1153
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: complete utter ignorance that doesn't want to take accountability, and

1154
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: then you have people who do awaken they're like.

1155
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 6: It's all love and light and they're still in spiritual bypassing.

1156
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: And wanting to live in that ignorance and avoidance is like, no,

1157
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: you have to kind of be right there in the

1158
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: middle and you have to you have to want to

1159
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: face the darkness head on.

1160
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 4: Well, I have a question for you. We usually have

1161
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 4: to ask our guests to share an affirmation.

1162
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 3: I feel like right now is a good time as

1163
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 3: we're trying to figure out what it is that drives

1164
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 3: us empowers us to kind of walk through these tind

1165
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 3: of these type of journeys, in these paths, do you

1166
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 3: have an affirmation that maybe you that you live by

1167
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 3: that it helps you.

1168
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 4: I feel empowered.

1169
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 7: You know.

1170
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: It sounds so simple, but it's funny. My mom always

1171
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: my mom always says that I said this, and I

1172
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: wasn't cognizant of saying it's just like I'm gonna figure

1173
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: it out. That sounds so simple, But it's just like

1174
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: I think that so many people feel so like I said,

1175
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: deepen their victim and that they're not capable and something

1176
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: is like I always like pull myself together, like, but

1177
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: you we gonna figure this out.

1178
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 4: I love that.

1179
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: It's just you know, that's what just Kane is like,

1180
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna figure this out.

1181
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 5: I'm going to figure this out, figure this out.

1182
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: I'm figure I'm gonna figure this ship out.

1183
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 5: And we always do.

1184
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: We always do, not always not that we don't.

1185
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 3: The people that stay in those in victimhood and stay

1186
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 3: in certain situations because they're like I don't want to

1187
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 3: figure it out.

1188
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just I'm good right here.

1189
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1190
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 4: So if you if you feel that way, just listen,

1191
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 4: put write that on the mirror in the morning. I'm

1192
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 4: gonna figure this ship out because you can.

1193
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 3: You can, but I will say I feel like a

1194
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 3: lot of women don't and men don't too.

1195
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 5: You can figure it out if you wish figure it out.

1196
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have the desire to figure it out

1197
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 2: and you know that you have the wherewithal, then it will.

1198
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: Like life is a balance of surrender and action. You

1199
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: just have to know the moments when you have to

1200
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: surrender and the moments where it's you have to be

1201
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 1: accountable to take action.

1202
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 2: And that's the that's the hard part people. That's where

1203
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: people struggle, you know, like when like how many biplaques?

1204
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 5: Is it time? Should I chill out?

1205
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: Maybe it'll change, you know what I mean, It's like

1206
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: a constant like you know, but I think that's where

1207
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 2: like the intuition comes in in that inner voice and

1208
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 2: whether or not you can honor it or not. I know,

1209
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: we like jumped right in, but I'm curious. We know

1210
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: we talked a little bit before we started, but like,

1211
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: what has your journey been into this work?

1212
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: Well, going back to Buffy the Vampires, Like people laugh

1213
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: when I say this, So, like, I first of all

1214
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: went to I went to college. You know, I was

1215
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: a very I was a chronic overplanner. I started college

1216
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: when I was sixteen. I was done by like almost nineteen.

1217
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: I was gonna have my master's by twenty one, and

1218
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: I had planned. I was like and then I was like,

1219
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, you know, get married, and I'm gonna do

1220
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: this spare life. Fuck your plans, Fuck your plans. So

1221
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: I went to art school and I was on path

1222
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: to be a celebrity photographer. And when I started free say,

1223
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: I just wasn't enjoying it. And I remember going to

1224
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: see the movie Eat, Pray Love in two thousand and

1225
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: nine and I left the theater being like, I need

1226
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: one of those moments it's like, but you're like twenty one,

1227
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: whych fuck you need one of those moms. So I said,

1228
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 1: like I felt like I was going through a beginning

1229
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: life crisis, and so I like wish to the universe,

1230
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: like give me one of those moments, like I need

1231
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: to figure it out.

1232
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 6: Like I'm doing what I thought I wanted to do,

1233
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 6: but it's just not working.

1234
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: And so in twenty twelve, So the last real job

1235
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: I had was in two thousand and nine, and so

1236
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, I actually met a woman through one

1237
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: of my photographer friends, and she Ronnie Players clubbed me.

1238
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: She's Ronnie, but she's like, she's like, bitch, you need

1239
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: some money, you want a job? Like okay, She's like,

1240
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: show up where this come this place on this day?

1241
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: And so I went on the north side of Atlanta

1242
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: and lady was like, you got a car. How many

1243
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: days a week can you work? Can you start right now?

1244
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: And I'm like okay. And my homegirl took me into

1245
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: a fucking room and it walks a white business professional man.

1246
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 6: And he takes off his clothes and he lays on

1247
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 6: the table.

1248
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: My friend said, sit in the corner and watch me.

1249
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: And I was like okay, and then this bitch is

1250
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: up there swag surfing on this motherfucker, you know. So

1251
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: she introduced me to the underbelly of the sex world

1252
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: here in Atlanta, and I became a sensual and tantric

1253
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: masseuse for five years. So I always tell people that

1254
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: it's you know, we can't judge how spirit works, but

1255
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: God gave me my eat pray love moment for five

1256
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: years to figure out myself and sustain myself being in

1257
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: the adult industry. And that is where Spirit began to

1258
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: communicate with me. And I always tell people we cannot

1259
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: judge people, because yes, God sometimes comes to people in

1260
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: the trap, comes into the strip club.

1261
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 7: And so.

1262
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: For whilst doing that, because I had been a woman,

1263
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, like many women like, didn't know my worth

1264
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,959
Speaker 1: was in these streets anyway, fucking up with dumb people.

1265
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: And it was like, I was so grateful because the

1266
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: women that actually got me into they taught me to

1267
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: do it from a very professional standpoint, business.

1268
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 6: Standpoint, and just you know, advocating for myself in boundaries.

1269
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: And so I slowly started spiritually awakening and I actually

1270
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: got married in that time too. I got married. I

1271
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: did like a ninety day fiance type situation. He was Nigerian.

1272
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: You know, he was a scammer. I was like, wait,

1273
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: a Nigerian man was a cool with your career?

1274
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 4: Because I was.

1275
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: He was actually you know, so he was a scammerka.

1276
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 5: He was so sinning.

1277
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: We were very transparent with each other. He's like, I'm

1278
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: in this point of life and I'm scamming. I'm like, well,

1279
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm in this point of life and I'm scheming. So

1280
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: then do some scheme, baby, So do the scheme and

1281
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: so our you know, our plan was to do what

1282
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: we need. I get him over here, we start our life.

1283
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 5: And well, you literally met him while he was still

1284
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 5: in Nigeria.

1285
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: So my homegirl that Ronnie Players club me was talking

1286
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: to his homeboy. He was like, oh he got a friend,

1287
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: and then yeah, OK. So then I was. I was

1288
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: in Nigeria and married him, came back and we were

1289
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: like working on getting him over here. And he was

1290
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: actually very spiritual. So I can admit. I tell people

1291
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: I was a toxic one in the relationship. So I

1292
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: was toxic. He helped spiritually awaken me.

1293
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 6: A long story short.

1294
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: During that time, I did something that I never thought

1295
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: I would do. But I cheated on him. I never

1296
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: I've never cheated in my life until I got married,

1297
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: and it was with a client and I snubbed my

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00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: nose at bitches that we like, would fuck client. I

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00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, my life, would I do that? And

1300
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: I tell people it was spiritual. I met a guy

1301
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: in there and I was like, if he comes back,

1302
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm a fucking like not my type. And what it

1303
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: was was it was this really sexual affair that reminded

1304
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: me of the parts of myself that I had been repressing.

1305
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: Although I was a sex worker, there was parts of

1306
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: myself that wanted to be the track, which I tell

1307
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: people all the time that guy ignited the track, which

1308
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: that affair ignited the track, which because I was still

1309
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: settling in that relationship with my husband, because there were

1310
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: so many parts of myself that he was not going

1311
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: to be able to tolerate as my husband, the person

1312
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: that I'm sitting here right now being vocal out front,

1313
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: like he would not be able to hang as my husband.

1314
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: And so I had that affair and we just started

1315
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: falling apart. I remember one day I like messaged him,

1316
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: I was like, you think you a good husband? He's

1317
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: like you think you a good wife, and I'm like,

1318
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: fuck you, You're done, And he ghosted me right before

1319
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: we got like the visa interview. I was like, you

1320
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: finna go. He's like crickets. So in that time where

1321
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: I was like, God, like, if this is my husband,

1322
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: let me know, They're like, it's not your husband. And

1323
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: so during that time, Spirits starts sending not only him

1324
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: as a messenger to activate me, Spirits starts sending people

1325
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: in Santaia. I'm actually a practitioner practitioner Santoria. I'm initiated

1326
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: sending all these spiritual people to like activate me. But

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01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: the problem was for me, and going back to Buffy

1328
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: if you're familiar with the story of Buffy, like I

1329
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: was really out here and trying just my best city

1330
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: girl life. I was like, I want to go shopping,

1331
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: I want to do basic bit shit, I want to

1332
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: go to club, and they kept sending these spiritual people

1333
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: like I'm like, I don't want to do that. So

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01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: for you know, when they say people are like truly called,

1335
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: like when you talk about the like people that are

1336
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: in the Bible, that is like they was out here

1337
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: murdering folks and God's like, come let me use you.

1338
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: And it was wild to me because I started getting

1339
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: these downloads like you need to start going to talk

1340
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: to people and empowering that I thought I was going crazy.

1341
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 6: And so during the sex work. During the sex work,

1342
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 6: the best.

1343
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: Part that kept me in for the longest time was

1344
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: the psychology aspect of it. I really treated these men

1345
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: like they were human beings, you know, like they weren't

1346
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: cash cows. And I was like, you know, what are

1347
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: you here for. You're either here because you're lonely neglected

1348
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: or you want to have your cake and eat it too.

1349
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: And I was able to maintain this business because I

1350
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: was really personal with them. But I really liked the

1351
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: psychological aspect. So when I knew I was going to

1352
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,919
Speaker 1: get out, I knew I was going to get into

1353
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: this work. I knew that I was going to be

1354
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: vocal about being a sex worker because I was either

1355
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: going to help people that were in it were trying

1356
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: to leave, or bridging the intersectionality of spirituality and sex work.

1357
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: So that's how I got into it.

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01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 3: I have a question because I think a lot of

1359
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 3: listeners and you know, don't necessarily always know what the

1360
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,439
Speaker 3: I guess the nuances of sex work is yeah, and

1361
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 3: what that always means like because.

1362
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think you so pussy.

1363
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 3: Yes, they think like, okay, so you are giving massages,

1364
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 3: are you actually having sex with your clients? Like some

1365
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 3: people like, for example, like we have a friend, mistress Marley, like,

1366
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 3: she doesn't have sex with her clients. She's a sex worker,

1367
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 3: she's dominator service.

1368
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: Girl, and you cheated with your husband.

1369
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 6: And I was like, I know what it is, but

1370
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 6: and that was just something I wanted.

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01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 3: To do, right, But I wanted you to explain that

1372
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 3: to because I think a lot of people have that

1373
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 3: assumption like, oh, well, you say your friend was going crazy,

1374
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 3: what would you say serving the client?

1375
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: She was giving what we call a body to body massage,

1376
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: So what is that? So she's oiled herself up and essentially,

1377
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, get on top of the person he was

1378
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: face down, you know, use her breast.

1379
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 6: And use her legs and use her body just to

1380
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 6: stimulate him.

1381
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: So but I just remember the first time I saw her, dude,

1382
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: I was like, you look like such a fucking goddess

1383
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: up there, Like it was just so powerful to witness her. So, yeah,

1384
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: I did did massages. I was not full service. Yes

1385
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: they did get happy endings, but I did not have

1386
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: sex with them in order to give them that. But yes,

1387
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,959
Speaker 1: you're correct, Like so many people don't realize that sex

1388
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: work is, you know, from yes, escorting to dancing to

1389
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: cam work to BDSM all these things. So there's there's different.

1390
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 2: Types of hoes that all don't require actual like penetration, yeah, penetration.

1391
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1392
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 3: So then going back to how spirituality and your sex

1393
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 3: work started to intersect, like and we were talking off

1394
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 3: camera and I heard you saying basically that you've kind

1395
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 3: of not been dissuayed from spirituality or like the hoop

1396
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 3: lo of what it is to be a spiritual healer,

1397
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 3: because it is a bit.

1398
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 4: Vanilla, It is a bit u.

1399
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 3: A little a little too woo woo, a little maybe

1400
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 3: like not sex positive, yes, in spaces because of you know,

1401
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 3: I think some of that has to do with the

1402
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 3: perpetuation of like the patriarchy in our healing space and

1403
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 3: I as a spiritual woman, and that you cannot be

1404
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 3: a sex worker and also be healing people like you

1405
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 3: must be unhealed if you are capable of working in

1406
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 3: that space is usually the I think the perception. So

1407
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 3: how do you how has like bridging these two things?

1408
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 3: What have been the challenges and like what is I

1409
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 3: guess the ultimate goal when it comes to bridging these

1410
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 3: two things.

1411
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: One of the biggest challenges I had off the rip.

1412
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: So in twenty seventeen, when I left sex work and

1413
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: got into this work, it was a lot more taboo

1414
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: for women like me to be in the spiritual arena

1415
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: and saying I was a sex worker and be validated

1416
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: to be worthy to be in this work. So now

1417
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: we've had an explosion of sexuality coaches and sexuality coaches,

1418
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: but like when I broke in, that was just not

1419
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: as popular still, and so I had to really prove

1420
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: myself as a worthy candidate to be in leadership. So

1421
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 1: I had to kind of like shut my hoe down

1422
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: a little bit. So I told people like there was

1423
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: levels where it was like the hole, the matter, and

1424
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: the high process. So I had to really really push

1425
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: to prove to my audience to the community that like,

1426
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: I'm the fucking high precess bitch. And now as I've

1427
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: reintegrated that I've been allowed to bring my home back

1428
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: out a bit more, you know, like bring my maiden energy.

1429
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: My issue is and I think a lot of people's

1430
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: issue is is, like you said, with so much of

1431
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: the woogle, Like I tell people like I'm not really woogle,

1432
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: but I'm Wu Tang clan, like if I want to

1433
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: start a spiritual like like yeah, we the Wu Tang clan,

1434
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: like like I'm the healer with the tims on.

1435
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 5: It like like it.

1436
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: And because representation matters, you know, I don't really believe

1437
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: in having to code switch all the time to prove

1438
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: my fucking intelligence. It's like I don't want to call

1439
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: my shit a yoni Like I cringe. I was like,

1440
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: this is my fucking pussy, Like why can't just say pussy?

1441
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: And you take me seriously And that's why I feel

1442
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: like people like me and other people like you guys,

1443
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: like we are bringing this intersexuality of being Like I

1444
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: don't have to vanilla myself. I don't have to code switch.

1445
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: This is my authenticity. And I realize, like I'm a

1446
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: very hedonistic person. I'm very much in my human and

1447
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: I think when people get on their spiritual journey, they

1448
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: think that they have to prove to people that they're

1449
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: spiritual by like repressing that energy. What is really who

1450
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: you are? I'm like, I'm a bit of a hedonistic

1451
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: ass bitch, like I don't want to have to sacrifice

1452
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: certain parts of myself and my duality in order to

1453
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: prove that I'm spiritual. So I think with again the

1454
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: sexuality as aspect part, Like, there's so much people want

1455
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: to mask, mask it, like I said, with more socially

1456
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: presentable language or whatever. And I know how to do that,

1457
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: Like I could teach anybody how to embrace their sexuality

1458
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: without showing my skin or even talking like that. But yes,

1459
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: we have to understand. So when we were talking about

1460
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: like pop your throat plusy earlier, I was telling you know,

1461
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: I tell people like your throat resembles the inside of

1462
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: our vagina, and so your throat is the second thing

1463
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: that gives birth, and you're constantly giving birth. So whenever

1464
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: you're casting spells over your life, you're giving birth to

1465
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: what you want in your world. So that's sexuality. You know,

1466
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: Sacral energy is not only just like how you use

1467
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: your vagina, it's also how you're able to manifest create,

1468
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 1: You create, you know, solar plex and shock with the

1469
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: relationship with yourself and your power in this world. So

1470
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 1: I can teach everybody on those levels but again I

1471
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: tell people like, if you could sell sex, you could

1472
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: sell anything. You sell drugs, you sell anything. There's a

1473
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: lot of women that are in the sex industry that

1474
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: could teach bitches about manifestation. This is why I advocate

1475
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 1: for Cardi B. I was like, you want to talk

1476
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: about a bitch that can teach you about manifestation? Is

1477
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: Cardi B?

1478
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 3: Well you know what I was watching one of a

1479
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 3: clip that you had, and you're saying, Cardi B is

1480
01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:58,799
Speaker 3: your spiritual gurgul?

1481
01:08:59,040 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1482
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: Well, you know why I tell people she was when

1483
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: I was wanting to leave sex work. Was when she

1484
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: was leaving, I would be sitting there and I would

1485
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: watch her just talk over her life about what she

1486
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: was gonna do and how she was gonna do it.

1487
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 1: And I also really admired her throat piece and her authenticity.

1488
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 1: And she just was like, I don't have to prove

1489
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: to y'all that it has to look this way for

1490
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: me to be intelligent a sport. So I started doing

1491
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: the same thing. I started uploading my videos from you know,

1492
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 1: I'm doing my work, and then I'm like, Okay, we're

1493
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: gonna teach people about empowerment in between seeing tricks and Johns,

1494
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: and that's what I started building the track, which while

1495
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: I was still a sex worker. But yeah, Cardibi could

1496
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: teach you a lot about manifestation. What I mean, some

1497
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: people prefer Joe Despenza because it's just what's socially acceptable

1498
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: to them, But the same shit that Carti B does

1499
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 1: Joe spends us two. At times. People are often comfortable

1500
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: with the representations that they're comfortable with, but they could

1501
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: also learn something from a bit that's different thing in them.

1502
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 4: I agree.

1503
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 3: I never really looked at it like that, and I

1504
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 3: think Cardi B Is actually a really good example.

1505
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:07,719
Speaker 1: That bitch can masage.

1506
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 5: Obviously, shit, yeah she's killing it.

1507
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 1: Yeah it's true.

1508
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 3: And she didn't have no problem saying exactly what the

1509
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 3: fuck she was about to do and who she was

1510
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 3: gonna be. And I'm gonna be a rapper bitch. Yeah

1511
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 3: I was a stripper. I was popping pussy, but I

1512
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck and this is who I am now.

1513
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: And in healing and spirituality, representation matters because a lot

1514
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: of what we've been presented is not helping people.

1515
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 7: You know.

1516
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: I watched her Breakfast Club interview the other day and

1517
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: they asked her. They said, you know, female wrap has

1518
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: become oversaturated right now, Like, first of all, how do

1519
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: you feel about that? And does it threaten you?

1520
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 6: She said no, because I knew it was gonna happen

1521
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 6: after I got in.

1522
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: She goes, when I got in, I proved that if

1523
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: I could do it, someone else could do it. So

1524
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 1: I opened the door and she goes, no, I'm not

1525
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 1: threaten because I know my lane, I know my space,

1526
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,799
Speaker 1: I know my authenticity. So I mean that in itself,

1527
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: literally a five minute sermon that she could teach somebody with.

1528
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: But again, people look for spirituality just to be presented

1529
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: in a certain way when people are giving you the lesson.

1530
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's so funny when people say that,

1531
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 3: like industries are oversaturated, especially if it's like an industry

1532
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 3: that is been there's been I guess, a decline on

1533
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 3: how many women have been involved. How could it be oversacked?

1534
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 3: First of all, there used to be like, no, not

1535
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 3: a lot of female rappers. Now there's too many. Now

1536
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 3: they're all talking about pop pussy and now everyone's mad,

1537
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 3: and now it's oversaturated, And I'm like, how can there

1538
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 3: be an oversaturation of the industry? It's just women are

1539
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 3: stepping into the space, and she's right, she did open

1540
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 3: the door.

1541
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 4: Now is the quality of music.

1542
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 3: I mean, we can argue, we can argue the ethos

1543
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 3: of what people are talking about all day long, whether

1544
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 3: it's perpetuating patriarchy or advancing you know, allowing women to

1545
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 3: move forward. But at the end of the day, I

1546
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 3: feel like that's not a conversation we hear men have like, oh,

1547
01:11:56,080 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 3: it's oversaturated. With saturated always a space that's that's been

1548
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 3: generally like you know, there's been like a minority of

1549
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 3: really femininity in it, and then there's too much femininity

1550
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:10,520
Speaker 3: and now it's oversaturated.

1551
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 4: We're doing too much. It's so interesting, So.

1552
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 3: Just curious too, like how has your journey into the

1553
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 3: spiritual space and now kind of transitioning more into the

1554
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 3: mindset coaching and just allowing I guess giving women the

1555
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 3: ability to tap into their throat chakra and all these things.

1556
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 3: I was reading an article that you were being interviewed

1557
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 3: and it's as a kid you were called like.

1558
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 4: Was it called the mouth champion or something?

1559
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 3: Yes, So like you've never really had a you've never

1560
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 3: really had a problem really exercising your.

1561
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: Your throats or you kind of were shamed by it

1562
01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: and kind of like so up until about six, they

1563
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 1: would call me mouth champion because I was very vocal

1564
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: and I was always intuitive. I knew how to intuit

1565
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: energy because I could recognize when adults were talking to

1566
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: me crazy, and so I would advocate for myself, and

1567
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: then I got called disrespectful, and then I got shut down,

1568
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: and then it became this game for like my uncle

1569
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: and my grandfather to like pay me to shut up.

1570
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 1: So they'd played this game where they'd be like, oh,

1571
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,799
Speaker 1: you get fifty dollars if you starved for four hours.

1572
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: He was like, well, shit, I want fifty dollars. It

1573
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: became this game to shut down my gifts. And then

1574
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: the board that I read the room or I read

1575
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,879
Speaker 1: the energy, I would get in trouble. And that's always

1576
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: been an issue even up until my awakening, where like

1577
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: even in my friendships, like if I could read the

1578
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: energy and I could call it out, I would get

1579
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: in trouble as you know, disrespectful whatever. So so yeah,

1580
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't really until I got into sex work where

1581
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 1: I had to learn to be more personable because a

1582
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: lot of times when I did work with other girls

1583
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: they'd be like, man, how do you make the time

1584
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: go so quick? Like it's tortuous for me to be

1585
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: in there with them for an hour? I was like,

1586
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 1: I talked to them.

1587
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 6: So that really helped me reactivate my throat chakra.

1588
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: And then when I decided that I was really gonna

1589
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: take this to the next level, I like started going

1590
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: to like a bar and like, oh, you have to

1591
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 1: talk to the stranger if they sit next to you,

1592
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 1: or or you need to post a video and just

1593
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: get really comfortable. So I did not get this comfortable

1594
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 1: being this vocal really until twenty sixteen.

1595
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 2: Again hmm, yeah, but luckily you recognize that and you

1596
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 2: shifted and you like gave yourself homework in order to

1597
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 2: like undo that.

1598
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: And for a while, like I couldn't even do public

1599
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 1: speaking without crying, like the first five minutes because I

1600
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 1: told people like my heart in my throat was like

1601
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 1: coming back online, and I think it was like in

1602
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: such chakas like bitch you how you're fucking talking your shit?

1603
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 6: It was like yeah, So it had to even go

1604
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 6: through that clearing to get.

1605
01:14:56,280 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: To that point where like I was just really firm, and.

1606
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 5: That clearing that's like energetically.

1607
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 2: We forget that they're like our heart and our throat

1608
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 2: and our wounds and our throat and are like these

1609
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 2: things were all connected, and a lot of times if

1610
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 2: one is shut down, there requires like a realignment and.

1611
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: That causes a lot of disease.

1612
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, physical We just talked about like energetic body governing

1613
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 2: the physical body, and it's true. And I remember like

1614
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 2: being a kid too, and I've always been very vocal

1615
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 2: and like being around other like my cousins and my

1616
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: parents would do some wild shit and I'd be like,

1617
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 2: what the fuck did you guys leave us here for

1618
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 2: three hours in the car, And then my cousins wouldn't

1619
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 2: say shit, And then my uncle would be like, you

1620
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 2: better shut her up, and he's like, she's right, we

1621
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 2: didn't leave them, you know what I mean. And I

1622
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: never understood why everyone else was shutting the fuck up,

1623
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 2: Like I don't care that I'm nine, What the fuck

1624
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 2: is your problem?

1625
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 5: Like I wasn't saying what the fuck is your problem?

1626
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 5: But I was like, yo, you know what I mean.

1627
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 2: But it's like, as children, we have to be careful too,

1628
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: even as moms, you know, as parents that are listening,

1629
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 2: you know, obviously kids get slick with their mouth, but

1630
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 2: not like doing the things our parents did to us,

1631
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 2: which is like shut up mind, grown folks. Business be

1632
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, be quiet going. It's like

1633
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 2: sometimes even I have to remind myself like this is

1634
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 2: a kid. She's expressing herself, and if I shut her

1635
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 2: up too much or too soon, like this could damage

1636
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 2: her long term, especially as a little girl.

1637
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 5: But like, yeah, it's like to.

1638
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 2: Really like just being so aware of you know, where

1639
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 2: you're where you're not comfortable speaking your truth or you know,

1640
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:22,799
Speaker 2: being vocal or you know, is can can definitely like uh,

1641
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 2: fuck up your creativity and you're like your sex, you know,

1642
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 2: like the the manifestation piece of like the alignment of

1643
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 2: all of yourself is super important.

1644
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 1: You would be so surprised, like how many women I

1645
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: meet where it's like you can fuck a man, but

1646
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: you can't talk to him. You shouldn't be fucking him

1647
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 1: and you can't talk to him.

1648
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 5: That was me.

1649
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: So many women have, you know, repressed voices, you know,

1650
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: and even going back to the limber and shit where

1651
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,600
Speaker 1: you get a bitch coming and reading where she's like,

1652
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so obsessed with him. Oh my God, Like,

1653
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: you know, he's been ghost for six months, is he

1654
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 1: still loved me? I was like, well, bitch, if you

1655
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 1: couldn't text him and asked him what the fuck was up,

1656
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: then you shouldn't have been with him anyway, you know. Again,

1657
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: Like so there's so much repressed repression or like.

1658
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 2: So much fear around being judged, and like, I have

1659
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 2: a friend like that, I'm like, bitch, you're fucking him,

1660
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 2: why can't you tell him how you feel? Isn't that

1661
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 2: weird to you that you're fucking someone and you can't

1662
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 2: express like that.

1663
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 1: You like them?

1664
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 3: There's that and also you don't want you don't want

1665
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 3: the answer. Yeah, there's a lot of just avoidance because

1666
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 3: you know you already.

1667
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 4: Know the answer.

1668
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 3: Most of the time, we know the answers. It's just

1669
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 3: we don't want the confirmation. We don't want to ask

1670
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 3: the question. And then you know, there also is just

1671
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 3: not being able to express. I mean there's been times

1672
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,480
Speaker 3: too where I'm like, I know that I have questions,

1673
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 3: but I'll just wait and I'll wait, and.

1674
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 4: I'm like spirit will give me the answer. Like, no, bitch,

1675
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 4: if you would have just asked the question, you would

1676
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 4: have got the answer.

1677
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: A lot faster.

1678
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 4: Instead, you're still here six months later, and Spirit finally

1679
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 4: said something.

1680
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 2: If you just you don't want to feel like you're

1681
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 2: being too much, you're being too naggy. You're like, if

1682
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 2: I do this, he's gonna think I like him too much.

1683
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 2: Like bitch, you do well.

1684
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 3: Like even it's even like when you're when you're first

1685
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 3: starting to dating, you don't want to tell the person

1686
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 3: you're dating what your intentions are. You don't want to

1687
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 3: be too much, Hey, I'm not really here to just

1688
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,759
Speaker 3: casually date. Be like, well, don't say that on the first.

1689
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 5: Day because you're scared away.

1690
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 3: And it's like, well, if you're not exercising that that

1691
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 3: throat pussy your need that, you're just gonna be throwing

1692
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 3: pussy and then you're gonna be mad.

1693
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 2: Speaking of exercising your throat pussy and not throwing the

1694
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 2: throat the regular pussy, I think for Patreon we should

1695
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 2: do an exclusive three Reasons three Ways to Free your

1696
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 2: throat pussy. So if you guys are Patreon members, you

1697
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 2: should go over there and see the three tips Tatiana

1698
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 2: is going to give us, because bitch just need to

1699
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 2: know how to exercise that throat pussy.

1700
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 3: Or in the vein of is you know Warrior Princess.

1701
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 1: Do you know it's funny recently? You know, there was

1702
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,600
Speaker 1: that chick Callisto on there you move the blonde like

1703
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: a friend. I was like, what is she doing right now?

1704
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 1: You still love her? She's actually a spiritual teacher now

1705
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,879
Speaker 1: in the Ashroms world. Yo, So I was like, see,

1706
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 1: we are totally aligned. I knew who the fuck I was.

1707
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 1: Where's sucking Zina? Lucy Lawless? Where is Lucy's chilling? Yeah,

1708
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: Pealisa's over there like in the Allstroan somewhere teaching people

1709
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: could leave yoga.

1710
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 2: I thought I was the only person who thinks randomly

1711
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 2: three o'clock in the afternoon, what the fuck happened to

1712
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 2: that bitch? I like twenty years ago? That was on

1713
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 2: TV and like they go that I'm quick to google.

1714
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 2: Oh my, I just looked at This is such a

1715
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 2: side note, but not really because we're talking about the darkness.

1716
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:28,799
Speaker 2: But did you guys see that like super Famous wife

1717
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 2: swap where they like it's like a very hippie family

1718
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 2: and they go with like they switch with like a

1719
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 2: Christian family, and she's like, it's the darkness it's dark sooted,

1720
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:41,719
Speaker 2: tarot cards and moons and stars, it's dark sooted. I've

1721
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 2: been made Shannie watch it recently because it was like

1722
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 2: the best fucking white swap they've ever had.

1723
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 5: Please go look it up.

1724
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 2: And she was like super anti anything not Christian, and

1725
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 2: now she's like huge with the gays.

1726
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: That's what I found.

1727
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 2: She looked it up and I was like, where is

1728
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 2: this woman now? And like the great the gates have

1729
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 2: embraced or so I'm like, see, like what happened? TV

1730
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 2: brought her back down? Okay, so the Christian woman who

1731
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 2: was talking about the darkness is now a huge icon

1732
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 2: with the gays. Have you seen that?

1733
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 5: No, I'm literally showing you in the ft.

1734
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 4: Well, maybe we'll add a link to the to the

1735
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 4: episode you can watch.

1736
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 5: It's literally it's necessary. It's so good. Oh you know

1737
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 5: what else?

1738
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:22,959
Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to say this for Patreon,

1739
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 2: but you asked me to ask you a question, not

1740
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 2: like a reading, but like a message. So I asked

1741
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 2: her about our relationship and our business in the next year.

1742
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: Yes I did. Yeah, you guys have a lot of

1743
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 1: beautiful opportunities and doors opening for you, and you should

1744
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,839
Speaker 1: definitely take them, especially the ones that are in alignment

1745
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: with your gifts. I think with all women that I

1746
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: tell they have gifts, you want to be really conscious

1747
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: of what you want to put into the world, you know.

1748
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: I think when we talk about like solar plexus energy,

1749
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 1: it's like, how do you want to execute your power

1750
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: in the world. It's like the footprint that you're leaving

1751
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: in the world. Like I think the best way to

1752
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: look at it is like if you had if you

1753
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: died tomorrow and your obituary came out, like what would

1754
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 1: it say?

1755
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 6: Like your what would your program say?

1756
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 1: And I think that the next year for you guys individually,

1757
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 1: you should get really adamant about what you're putting out

1758
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: there and who you want to be and how you

1759
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: want to be remembered, but also together as well. So

1760
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 1: it really it was interesting because what I got was like,

1761
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: but some door I was about to fuck it open.

1762
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 1: Y'all need to walk through them. But just get really

1763
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: adamant about what's in alignment for what's important for you.

1764
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 6: Because I tell there's so many women right.

1765
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: Now coming into their positions of leadership and adding like

1766
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: their good juju and their glitter of magic into the world.

1767
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 1: And that's a beautiful thing because for a lot of us,

1768
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: our grandmas, our aunties, our moms didn't get to do that.

1769
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of them activated us to be

1770
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: able to do this. We have never been in a

1771
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: time whereas women we've had so much privilege, especially as

1772
01:21:58,160 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: women in the West. And I always tell people this too,

1773
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: it's as women in the West, we can't downplay what

1774
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 1: we're doing because there's our sisters, like on the other

1775
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: side of the world that still don't have some of

1776
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 1: these privileges. So we don't know what we're doing that's

1777
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 1: potentially helping them and then helping you know, your daughters

1778
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: and the women coming behind us. So with the Internet,

1779
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: like life happens like this. You guys started this podcast

1780
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,719
Speaker 1: five years ago, and I'm sure it's like I tell people,

1781
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 1: it's not just the fucking Internet. The Internet is what

1782
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: you make it and tomorrow, like literally, you have access

1783
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 1: to the world. The world has access to you. You

1784
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 1: can hop on a plane and get to these places.

1785
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 1: So ask yourself, really, what you guys are doing with

1786
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: people having accessibility to you and what you want to

1787
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: do in reverse as well. So, yeah, it wasn't really

1788
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 1: anything beside this, Walk through them doors and just get

1789
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 1: really fine tuned about what you guys are putting out

1790
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 1: and how you really want to change the environment and

1791
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 1: the climate for especially women. You know, all of us

1792
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: are feminine liberators. I just identify as a feminine liberator,

1793
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 1: but all of us are feminine liberators and what I love.

1794
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 1: And I feel like this was so aligned at this

1795
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 1: time because although I don't have biological children, bitch, I'm

1796
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 1: a mother. I'm a mother, and I've been a matriarchal

1797
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 1: figure now for seven years in this community. It's like

1798
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: we're mothering other people's children. You don't know how many

1799
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: women are watching this that weren't given these lessons by

1800
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 1: their moms, And we are like mothering the children of

1801
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 1: other women. And so we're helping women develop into who

1802
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: they were always meant to be. And so that's just

1803
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 1: a powerful thing right now in that sisterhood in the

1804
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 1: community of women. So pretty much is just like keep

1805
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing.

1806
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 4: Walk through the doors.

1807
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 3: I think also the message I'm hearing from you too

1808
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 3: is just really be get clear, get clearer, get clearer

1809
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 3: on what is the what is going to be on

1810
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 3: that obituary.

1811
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is the message? What are you leaving here?

1812
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 4: What is it?

1813
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 2: I think that's in alignment. We've been talking about that

1814
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 2: a lot lately. You know, like five years goes by

1815
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 2: like pretty quickly. I mean it's been a long like

1816
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 2: you know, long working season. But I think we've also

1817
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 2: been like, what the fuck is our goal? You know,

1818
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 2: what is it that. I think when we started, we

1819
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 2: weren't this. It wasn't I mean, it wasn't really all

1820
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 2: we thought through. We just needed a friend, and then

1821
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 2: it kind of began to develop and evolve and we

1822
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 2: realized how important it was.

1823
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: You you guys needed a friend. Yeah, that's how my

1824
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 1: business started to where it was like who do I

1825
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 1: talk to about this? And then just using the internet

1826
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: as like your diary to be like listen, I got

1827
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 1: fucking like, hell.

1828
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:32,480
Speaker 5: I to tell you something?

1829
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I'm confused, bitches, you know, perfect, come over,

1830
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 2: come over here.

1831
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 5: We can all be confused and figure it out together.

1832
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1833
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think we've been like just trying to

1834
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,719
Speaker 2: be really clear or get clearer about our goals and

1835
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 2: like what our purposes. And I think it's it's developed

1836
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 2: and evolved as we get to meet amazing humans like you.

1837
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 2: We get like, I feel so blessed honestly to just

1838
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,440
Speaker 2: like the mentors and the peace people, like the conversations

1839
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 2: we get to have because we are we're in the

1840
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 2: school of life, like we're in the which school that

1841
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 2: we've fucking created the curriculum we.

1842
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: Were at Hogwarts.

1843
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 2: And I get to get lectures by the people that

1844
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,720
Speaker 2: I admire and that I see messages that resonate with me,

1845
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 2: and I get.

1846
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 5: To literally like, hey, girl, can you come up?

1847
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 2: You know what I mean without really having to have

1848
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 2: a like a relationship with them except from the Internet.

1849
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 5: It's not weird at all.

1850
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:28,799
Speaker 2: And so I'm I'm super grateful again, like for this,

1851
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 2: this the University of good moms being able to I've

1852
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 2: been like, it's developed me so much, like my character,

1853
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 2: my personality, my once, my my abilities, my healing abilities,

1854
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 2: my leadership skills. And I probably wouldn't have been able

1855
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,600
Speaker 2: to discover this without my friend, without women like you

1856
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 2: and friends that we've gotten to, like, you know, make

1857
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 2: on this journey. And so you know, for anyone listening

1858
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 2: who's just joining the show, or maybe you've listened to

1859
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 2: a bunch of episodes, it's just like women, the community

1860
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 2: that we're you know, we create and the friendships we create.

1861
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 2: Like we've been given such bullshit to say that we

1862
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 2: are not here for each other, because the only way

1863
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 2: we evolve is through each other, is through conversation, is

1864
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 2: through like oh, bitch, you too, Like you got fucked

1865
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 2: up me too, Like oh you didn't you dine some

1866
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 2: something strains for some change, me too, you know, And

1867
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 2: there's no judgment and there this is like the space

1868
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 2: for that. And so I'm just every time I sit down,

1869
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 2: I'm continuously just like so grateful for the opportunity to

1870
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 2: have these conversations.

1871
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 5: And just like you, we look at your page, I'm like.

1872
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:30,719
Speaker 1: Oh you know this person?

1873
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 5: You know, how do you know me?

1874
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,640
Speaker 2: Alla, I'm like yeah, because I've been just talking all

1875
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 2: your friends online and now we're here. So it's like

1876
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 2: a sisterhood is some real shit, and like we are

1877
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 2: each other's teachers and we are each other's students, and

1878
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 2: and like this part of evolving and resurrecting the free woman,

1879
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 2: this is the part. This is how we do it.

1880
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:53,879
Speaker 2: And so it's spiritual. It's the spiritual sorority. If you're listening,

1881
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 2: and you know, you've been your inside has been telling

1882
01:26:58,200 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 2: you that you have a gift, or that there's something

1883
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 2: that you to learn, or that you know that parts

1884
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 2: of you that you need to let like unfold, do

1885
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: that shit. You know, if you're not, if you're listening,

1886
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 2: it's not by coincidence that we're having this conversation. I

1887
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 2: always say this, so like, follow the synchronicities, follow the

1888
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,759
Speaker 2: alignment because it could lead you to your best friend

1889
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 2: and your next best friend, and your next business partner,

1890
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 2: and to your tribe and to your people, and ultimately

1891
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 2: to your healing. And you're evolving to like priestess.

1892
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 3: Amen.

1893
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 4: Amen, Amen, Speaking of priestess and evolving, we pulled a card.

1894
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 4: Is it Tarot time?

1895
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 5: It's Tarot time?

1896
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 4: Bitches?

1897
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: Is it Tarot time? Or is it horry time?

1898
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 11: Mm?

1899
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 5: I think Tarot?

1900
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: And then we'll go into the horr Yeah, okay, you

1901
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,799
Speaker 2: know you know the dark witches love some horries.

1902
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 9: We do.

1903
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 2: Even that, like, even when we started our show not

1904
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 2: really knowing the direction it was going in. It's so

1905
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 2: interesting that no matter what we had aspects of sex,

1906
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 2: because that's who we are, and you're gonna like it,

1907
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 2: gonna take it.

1908
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:58,919
Speaker 4: Tatiana pulled the Six of Cups.

1909
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:07,719
Speaker 2: This Six of Cups revisiting the past, childhood memories. Okay, Vampire,

1910
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 2: the Buffer, Xena and Roger Rabbit, innocence enjoy hmm. Our

1911
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 2: tarot cards are always on point. Okay, because we're super witches.

1912
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 5: Okay.

1913
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 2: The Six of Cups is a card that takes you

1914
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,640
Speaker 2: back to the happy memories from your past, whether as

1915
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 2: a child, teenager, or young adult. You may simply be

1916
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,719
Speaker 2: revisiting those memories in your mind, or may you travel back.

1917
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,759
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is so crazy. You may simply

1918
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 2: be revisiting those memories in your mind, or you may

1919
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 2: travel back to your childhood home or reconnect with your

1920
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:51,679
Speaker 2: childhood friends.

1921
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 5: You could go to a you can go to.

1922
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,839
Speaker 2: A high school reunion, or reconnect with an old buddy.

1923
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 2: A teenage sweetheart or past lever may turn up again.

1924
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 2: These connections bring you a sense of joy and happiness

1925
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 2: as you reminisce over all the fun times you had together.

1926
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 2: Take this occasion to explore whether you still have a

1927
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 2: lot in common and if you wish to continue the

1928
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 2: relationship now it's like with yourself.

1929
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:14,759
Speaker 4: The archetype.

1930
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 2: The archetypes, right, The Six of Cups often shows an

1931
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 2: increased level of harmony and cooperation in your relationships. You

1932
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 2: are ready to give and receive without expectation. You're also

1933
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 2: willing to give each other the benefit of the doubt.

1934
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 2: Having moved on from the challenging emotions of the Five

1935
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 2: of Cups, it's time to turn over a new leaf

1936
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 2: and start afresh from a more positive place. The Six

1937
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 2: of Cups invites you to get in touch with your

1938
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 2: inner child and experiences. Experience the fun, freedom, and innocence

1939
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 2: that comes with being a young child again being all

1940
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 2: of you, You might you might like to sit down

1941
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 2: with an adult coloring book, dance like no one is

1942
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 2: watching you, play your favorite childhood games, or watch Sena

1943
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 2: Zeena for your princess, or spend more time around happy children.

1944
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 2: Wh you give yourself permission to be playful, spontaneous, and creative.

1945
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 2: You connect more with your authentic self and your intuition.

1946
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 1: Wow, is that not on point? At one point? I

1947
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 1: love that?

1948
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 4: So you hear that.

1949
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,839
Speaker 3: Go back, think about the archetypes that we were attracted

1950
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 3: to as a child, Tap into that. Revisit if that's

1951
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 3: the part of you that you you've maybe let die

1952
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 3: in adulthood and how you can get back to that

1953
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 3: that that joy and how you identified or what you

1954
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 3: were drawn to during that time. Do some motherfucking cartwheels

1955
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 3: come to the good Faber tree.

1956
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 2: We do a lot of cartwheels, a lot of skinny dipping,

1957
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,000
Speaker 2: a lot of dancings happening over there, a lot of

1958
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 2: fun shit.

1959
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 5: It's crazy.

1960
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 2: This card said go back to your like visualized going

1961
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 2: back into your childhood home. Because I did that once,

1962
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 2: like a couple of years ago, and I didn't know.

1963
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:48,719
Speaker 2: I didn't know what like pushed me into that place.

1964
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 2: I do know it was an argument with this fucking

1965
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 2: fuck boy I was dating. But I had never like

1966
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 2: thought about visiting my childhood home. But sitting here in

1967
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:57,879
Speaker 2: this house right now, like something fell and it like echoed,

1968
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 2: and it brought me back to this house I lived

1969
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:01,560
Speaker 2: in briefly in Atlanta, and it was not in a

1970
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,560
Speaker 2: good place. But it's just so crazy that we underestimate

1971
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 2: the exercise of visualization and how you can like spiritually

1972
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 2: time travel and go back to places and like visit

1973
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:16,759
Speaker 2: those versions of yourself. And just being here in Atlanta

1974
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 2: and like kind of thinking I'm going to come and

1975
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 2: have a lot of friends and do like, you know,

1976
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 2: go on a lot of free dates that didn't happen. Bitch,

1977
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 2: you need to maybe go dig deep into like the

1978
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 2: places you were in your life then that have been

1979
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 2: dormant and like the things that were coming up that

1980
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 2: I wasn't like skilled enough to to like kind of

1981
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 2: understand that.

1982
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 5: So I'm grateful for that card.

1983
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,799
Speaker 2: Thank you for pulling that, and also just encouraging everyone

1984
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 2: listening to do some you know, time travel in your

1985
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 2: brain and see what comes up.

1986
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 5: Thank you so much. This has been great.

1987
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1988
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:52,799
Speaker 5: Do you want to share a hory with our peoples?

1989
01:31:53,560 --> 01:32:00,839
Speaker 1: There's so many, So I have a you that always

1990
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 1: stand out to me, but the one that really changed

1991
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 1: my life, that put me on this path. And I

1992
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:08,599
Speaker 1: actually have an ebook that I that I titled this,

1993
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: but the e book was called for every man that

1994
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: doesn't treat you right, there's one that's gonna eat a

1995
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: cupcake out of your ass. You hear that? So I

1996
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 1: like that. The very sexual affair that I had whilst

1997
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 1: cheating on my ex husband, I remember the real turning

1998
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 1: point was like this man brought cupcakes and champagne and

1999
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 1: we had like a floor picnic, and he was like

2000
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat this cupcake out, y'all.

2001
01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 2: Ass.

2002
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 1: That just shifted something in me for life where I

2003
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,719
Speaker 1: was like, bitch, for every man that does not treat

2004
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 1: me right, there's a man who's gonna have a picnic

2005
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 1: in my ass. So that would definitely be one that

2006
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: just shifted my whole perspective.

2007
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 6: I did have a memory the other day. We're talking

2008
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 6: about childhood memories.

2009
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,759
Speaker 1: Just sounds so bad, but like, you know, I started

2010
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 1: having sex fairly early, but I remember like on a

2011
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 1: school night, I think I was like fifteen. Do you

2012
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 1: guys remember those like green inflatable chairs? Even lunch The

2013
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 1: other day, I was just doing something random. I was like,

2014
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: why did this flash back? But I remember sneaking a

2015
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 1: boy in my room and like I tied him and

2016
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 1: blindfolded him to that chair with like the black lights on,

2017
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 1: and shit. I was like, was that baby dungeon?

2018
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2019
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like really into that shit. Like I

2020
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,719
Speaker 1: was like, who taught me that? And I was like, oh,

2021
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 1: so that would probably be another one.

2022
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:25,679
Speaker 5: Not the inflatable share bitch.

2023
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 1: I mean, if you have questions, like again, like I

2024
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:29,600
Speaker 1: have so many just like memories.

2025
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 5: I love that.

2026
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 4: I love that I'm not a baby dungeon.

2027
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:35,600
Speaker 1: That's a baby dungeon. It was like, you know, it

2028
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 1: was like the soft inflatable furniture. And I used to

2029
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,679
Speaker 1: like like stalk their m message You remember MSN messenger.

2030
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm like they even tell you, like what.

2031
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 1: Music they were playing. So I would like create a

2032
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 1: playlist and they'd be like, oh my god, how did

2033
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 1: you know that I love the song? I was like

2034
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, so I was like, oh,

2035
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 1: I was really like kind of in that like dark

2036
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 1: feminine energy from them. So yeah, that was fun. I

2037
01:33:58,720 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 1: love that.

2038
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 4: Do you have any I'm just curious, do you have

2039
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 4: any stories about during your time and sex work, like

2040
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 4: any sort of interesting or like creepy.

2041
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be crappy or it could be creepy

2042
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 3: or kinky requests that.

2043
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2044
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:15,759
Speaker 1: I I I so again for psychological reasons, like I

2045
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: was very I had boundaries around what types of fetishes

2046
01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 1: that I did. I had a man that used to

2047
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:23,640
Speaker 1: pay me to blow up balloons topless. Oh so like

2048
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:25,639
Speaker 1: you just like call me and be like what color

2049
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 1: balloons do you want? And I'm like pink and black and.

2050
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 6: He would just pay me to blow them up and

2051
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 6: I would like.

2052
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 1: Pop them under his ass, or like he brought birthday

2053
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 1: candles and like I would like the birthday candles and

2054
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 1: like burden them on his nipples. I've had a man

2055
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 1: ask me to shove a heel up his ass.

2056
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:43,639
Speaker 4: He's so festive.

2057
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 1: Oh, I wouldn't have a heel held as Yeah, he

2058
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 1: bought me something was there, lube involved. He didn't even

2059
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 1: want that. He bought me pink latex heels and he

2060
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 1: wanted me to shove them up his ass, but for

2061
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 1: just safety reasons. I'm like, I'm not comfortable doing that.

2062
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: So he like licked the He would just like lick

2063
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 1: them and worship my feet. I had, you know, people

2064
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 1: who liked tickling, so they like hold you down and

2065
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 1: tickle you.

2066
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 4: They would tickle you.

2067
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a few times, and that was actually

2068
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 1: really good for me. Like you know how like I said,

2069
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 1: laughter is just so healthy. At first, I'd be like

2070
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 1: that took a lot of trust for me. I wouldn't

2071
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 1: necessarily do it like the first time, like we'd have

2072
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 1: to build trust. But I was like, that's just so

2073
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 1: much fun because you don't realize how much you need them.

2074
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that sounds traumatic for me.

2075
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 1: It was hard. Hate guy was strong. I hate hate.

2076
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 4: That might be like my biggest hate of all time.

2077
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,480
Speaker 1: You get defeat. I hate.

2078
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 5: I totally like it. But it was fun.

2079
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 1: Like I get irate, like great too much?

2080
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 5: Did you get too tickled as a child?

2081
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, but whatever Nigga thinks

2082
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 4: it's cute.

2083
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:54,759
Speaker 3: I get mad, like very angry quickly. So remember we

2084
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:55,640
Speaker 3: had who did we have on that was?

2085
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:56,719
Speaker 4: Who liked to be tickled?

2086
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:57,719
Speaker 1: Come curious?

2087
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 5: Yeah I'm curious.

2088
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, bitch, this sounds good traumatic? But

2089
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 1: did mommy play one time? And I was actually kind

2090
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:06,439
Speaker 1: of proud of myself. Do they have a diaper and things? No?

2091
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: So like he asks for mommy play and I was like,

2092
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 1: how is he going to do? Like how am I

2093
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 1: going to do this? Like he acts for it like

2094
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 1: on the whim, and I was like fuck because he's

2095
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 1: a regular and so like he showed up late. He

2096
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 1: was like thirty minutes late, and like as soon as

2097
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 1: I came through the door, I got in character. I

2098
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 1: was like, who do you think you are coming in.

2099
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 6: This house this time of day and wasting you?

2100
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 1: So like I had some textbooks at the at the

2101
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 1: place I worked out because someone wanted like, you know,

2102
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 1: like schoolgirl shit. So I was like, fold your clothes

2103
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 1: up on this chair, put them over there, and I

2104
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 1: was like, go stand in that corner for fifteen minutes.

2105
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 1: And so he's fifteen minutes. Like I made him stand

2106
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 1: in the corner holding the books up like this for

2107
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of the corner.

2108
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 5: He loved it.

2109
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 1: He loved it.

2110
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 3: I was like yes, and you're like, damn, the time

2111
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 3: is up now bye bye.

2112
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I didn't have anything like exceptionally crazy. I

2113
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 1: really filtered because you know, fetish work gets complicated, Like

2114
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 1: I didn't go full fetish because you have people, a

2115
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:06,640
Speaker 1: lot of people like waste your time and just like

2116
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 1: email you and play games. I kind of kept it

2117
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,719
Speaker 1: like in light in the fetish. I loved ball torture,

2118
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 1: so like I had certain men that like paid me

2119
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:17,800
Speaker 1: to slap them in the balls, and I'm like this

2120
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 1: is like for every woman that's ever been done wrong,

2121
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 1: you know. So that was fun. I can't really think

2122
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 1: of anything else that's too crazy. I mean I had

2123
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,640
Speaker 1: a few cross dressers, like I remember, it was it

2124
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 1: was wild because he didn't tell me. So, Like he

2125
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 1: was like probably like in his fifties, like from up north,

2126
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 1: like real thick accent, older white man pulled up in

2127
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:41,560
Speaker 1: a red corvette. He's like, can I use the bathroom?

2128
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,720
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, go ahead, and he comes out

2129
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 1: in like a purple corset o panty hose in a wig.

2130
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 1: He's like, do you think I'm pretty? And I'm like yes,

2131
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:53,840
Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, I spent sixty RECs to go

2132
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 1: to college and I'm here like.

2133
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 2: Girling ass man, like he looked pretty and he's like,

2134
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 2: her name is Barbara.

2135
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, her name was Barbara. So that was interesting. It

2136
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:09,800
Speaker 1: was just like but again, like that space prepared me

2137
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 1: so much for just being accepting of human beings and

2138
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 1: like where they're at. Because the scariest thing to me

2139
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 1: was that I had men that had wives that didn't

2140
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 1: know them right. So I had some people that were honest.

2141
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 1: I was like does your wife know this about you?

2142
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 1: And they're like no, and I'm like, how can you

2143
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 1: sleep next to someone that doesn't know you?

2144
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 2: Wow? That fear of like just judged, yeah, yeah, that's

2145
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:33,719
Speaker 2: again not being able to be your full self.

2146
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:35,799
Speaker 1: And then one time I had a this is not fetished.

2147
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 1: But one time I had a man that had elephant titus,

2148
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 1: like yeah, like and he didn't tell me, so like

2149
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:46,880
Speaker 1: when I flipped him over, like it was just like

2150
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 1: a giant humor and it was literally like the elephant

2151
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 1: in the room. It really was. And he just talked

2152
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 1: around and he was like, do you think I'm a

2153
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 1: trust But I'm like, I have to hold space for

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Speaker 1: this man because I'm sure he can't date regularly.

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Speaker 6: So I realized that he was using the service.

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Speaker 1: As a way to get the affection that he needed

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Speaker 1: because he wasn't able to date regularly. So that's where

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Speaker 1: I really began to have a lot of empathy for

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Speaker 1: sex workers. And there's a really great movie called The

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Speaker 1: Sessions with Helen Hunt, which is about being a sex

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Speaker 1: surrogate where she worked with a man who was a

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Speaker 1: paraplegic and he was a virgin and he wanted to

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Speaker 1: explore his sexuality and try to get into dating and

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Speaker 1: she would facilitate that space. So I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you know that, like there's such thing as like a

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Speaker 1: sex surrogate certification. And I had a client of in

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Speaker 1: the United States in a few states. Okay, we actually

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Speaker 1: only have like one or two here in Georgia. But

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Speaker 1: I had a client who told me about that because

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Speaker 1: he was like, I'm concerned for your safety. He was like,

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Speaker 1: you should try and do this legally, and I'm like, okay.

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Speaker 1: But when I looked back at our email, because he

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Speaker 1: has sent me all these references, I was so grateful

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Speaker 1: because what he saw in me was now the business

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Speaker 1: that I have now, I just didn't see it yet.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but nothing too wild and and crazy.

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Speaker 3: Oh this interesting stories that I'm sure many people have

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Speaker 3: never experienced and would be considered wild and crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I think it's really cool how the work that

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Speaker 3: you've done in that space really did prepare you to

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Speaker 3: humanize people and to really understand you know that ultimately,

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Speaker 3: at our core, we just want love, whether that's from ourselves,

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Speaker 3: whether that's from other.

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Speaker 4: People in safety.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So being able to provide spaces for people and

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Speaker 3: women like that is really important.

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Speaker 4: So I'm really grateful for the work that you do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I told peop all the time like that, that's

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Speaker 1: where I learned how to be a safe space. You know.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes sex work sex workers are the closest things

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Speaker 1: that men are going to get to therapy. And I

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Speaker 1: told you all the time, like, you know what if

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Speaker 1: a lot of these things were legal and we could

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Speaker 1: create in a way that it did help people, because

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Speaker 1: sometimes people need that form of therapy. But I was like,

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Speaker 1: do you know how many marriages sometimes we say by

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Speaker 1: dealer with your husband's darkness and sending them back to you.

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Speaker 1: So I always encourage people because I think that people

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Speaker 1: think that sex workers are just like desperate addicts and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. And I've you know, I've seen a

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Speaker 1: lot of people be judgmental where I've worked with a

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Speaker 1: lot of educated women and sex work, and I'm like

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Speaker 1: a lot of us have happy endings. We have happy endings,

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Speaker 1: and we have empowerment stories, and we are multifaceted, and

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Speaker 1: all of us don't necessarily get into this just on

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Speaker 1: pure survival. I was definitely spiritually aligned to go through

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Speaker 1: that world by spirit in order to hold the type

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Speaker 1: of space that I do now for darkness. And so

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Speaker 1: I'm really grateful too, because more people need that acceptance,

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Speaker 1: like you said, need that love in the world.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, that tantric speech.

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Speaker 2: You know, that love like no matter what, I don't

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Speaker 2: care what if you want to put on those pantyhose.

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Speaker 2: I love you, Bob or whatever the fuck your name is. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you know, and like the fear too, like the fear

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Speaker 2: that that breeds. Like imagine laying down with someone every

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Speaker 2: night and they like, there's just one thing that you love,

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Speaker 2: but you can't you don't feel like you can tell them.

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Speaker 5: That is a scary place to be.

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Speaker 2: Or imagine you're the wife and you open the door

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Speaker 2: and your husband's in full yeah, and you're like, hey, what.

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Speaker 5: The fuck, I think we've got some shit to talk about.

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Speaker 2: But it's the same thing as just like laying down

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Speaker 2: with someone and not knowing who they are, and like,

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Speaker 2: that's why accepting yourself is so important and showing up

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01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 2: in your darkness and your light so that you can,

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01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 2: you know, find partnership and friendship and tribe in that

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01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 2: same space and you're not cloaked and trying to navigate

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Speaker 2: all these different spaces in different rooms because you don't

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Speaker 2: feel comfortable enough to do that. Well, thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for coming to join us today, having me. It's

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Speaker 2: so grateful. We're gonna stock your friends now. I know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like I had your numbers.

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Speaker 4: On my algorithm.

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Speaker 3: I follow her at all your posts are always God,

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Speaker 3: I'm my guess this morning with the trap Witch.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell people where they can find you on Instagram?

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Speaker 1: The trap Witch, the trap Witch.

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Speaker 4: Make sure you go check out some of your courses.

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Speaker 4: You still have the right.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing classes, master classes. I just did my Unbound

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Speaker 1: Priestess masterclass. It was about you know, beauty, magic, adornment, duality,

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Speaker 1: all of these things. But yeah, I do courses. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be doing a lot more podcasts and getting on

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Speaker 1: the road and doing in personal events and hopefully some

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Speaker 1: retreats as well soon.

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Speaker 3: And you guys, if you are not on Patreon, make

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Speaker 3: sure you go check out Patreon. We have a bonus

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Speaker 3: episode with Tatiana where we're talking about that throat pussy.

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Speaker 3: So click the link in this episode description to check

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Speaker 3: out this bonus episode and extension of this episode on Patreon,

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Speaker 3: plus a lot of other bonus content. Bimila have our

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Speaker 3: personal blogs there. I share a lot more personal shit

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Speaker 3: than I do on social media's.

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Speaker 4: We have other bonus videos and what else.

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Speaker 2: We have a retreat coming up in August of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four and it's almost sold out, so if you

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Speaker 2: bitches are being last minute.

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Speaker 5: Stop. You have almost a year to pay that shit off.

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Speaker 2: worry about anything, make new friends, and get in touch

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Speaker 2: with your dark feminine And if.

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Speaker 11: Me on my birthday.

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Speaker 2: In where to find us, Good Mom's Underscore, Bad Choices,

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Speaker 11: Bye bye, as

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Speaker 8: Yeah