Speaker 1: All right, hey there everybody, Hey, me and TJ. Here,
Speaker 1: we are into the new year. We hope your new
Speaker 1: year and your resolutions are still on track. We are
Speaker 1: well into now roads Dry January. So tell everybody how
Speaker 1: you doing. All right?
Speaker 2: Well, I have been waking up feeling refreshed and energetic
Speaker 2: in a way that I haven't before, so that is awesome.
Speaker 2: And I definitely feel the effects of the toxins leaving
Speaker 2: my body.
Speaker 1: But all positive.
Speaker 2: Well, the only thing is I still feel a little
Speaker 2: angry when I can't have a glass of wine at night,
Speaker 2: like when I sit down on the couch and have
Speaker 2: a movie going. It's just maybe it's just a pattern,
Speaker 2: or it's just I don't know, if it's just the
Speaker 2: experience of holding the glass.
Speaker 1: It's it's been a little tough.
Speaker 2: I'm still not there yet where this feels perfectly free
Speaker 2: and fine.
Speaker 1: Okay, but physically it feels amazing. Okay, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: This is a lot of people know that I've done
Speaker 1: this for ten fifteen plus years and now always do
Speaker 1: it Dry January. This is Rob's first time to fully
Speaker 1: be on board with it, and on a matter of days,
Speaker 1: you almost forget that you're not drinking, and it just
Speaker 1: we drink so much water, you're so hydrated, and you
Speaker 1: have some mocktails.
Speaker 2: Is so I've been drinking club soda. I have a
Speaker 2: little lemon or a line in it. And you actually
Speaker 2: got me this idea. So we got some rosemary.
Speaker 1: Yes it's a Cranberry spritzer that I learned from eight
Speaker 1: years ago, but Cranberry's juice, sparkling water and a little rosemary.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing the juice, but I've got the rosemary,
Speaker 2: which actually was a nice little touch.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll try some mint. But I'm not there yet.
Speaker 2: Where you forget that you're not drinking. I am not there.
Speaker 1: Are you there? Yeah, it's not even that. I don't
Speaker 1: even think about it being a part of the day anymore.
Speaker 1: It's and I'm telling you, on January thirty one, you
Speaker 1: will not be planning what you're going to drink on
Speaker 1: February one.
Speaker 2: You will not totally disagree with you this conversation. Last
Speaker 2: night we were walking back and you said you're not
Speaker 2: gonna want to have a drink on February one, and
Speaker 2: I started laughing.
Speaker 1: Tell me, yeah, all right, one hundred percent, I'm going
Speaker 1: to want to drink up there. We're putting it out
Speaker 1: there right now, and folks watch when you get there.
Speaker 1: It's just not you're not going to plan something around it.
Speaker 1: So we will get to that. I was actually already
Speaker 1: talking about making reservations at this really cool bar. Nope,
Speaker 1: not interested. Oh my gosh, Okay, we'll see. Well that's uh,
Speaker 1: we're starting the we're starting the new year again. Hope
Speaker 1: you're good with your resolutions. We also had a big
Speaker 1: birthday since the since the new year came around, that
Speaker 1: big birthday belonged to wrote a little one bean, my
Speaker 1: little one. She turned eleven on January sixth. We had
Speaker 1: a really good She wanted to go right, She didn't
Speaker 1: want to party, didn't want friends around. I want a
Speaker 1: big trip? Do want anything? What does she want to do? Shop?
Speaker 1: Take me shopping? That means she's officially a tween? Is
Speaker 1: that what that is? Yes?
Speaker 2: So it's funny. My daughter turned twenty one eight days
Speaker 2: before your daughter turned eleven. Right, so, and my daughter
Speaker 2: wanted a party.
Speaker 1: That's shocking, But that's twenty one. Oh that's different. But
Speaker 1: that was a big It was a big thing for Sabine,
Speaker 1: and you were a big part of the birthday, and
Speaker 1: you have been in and look, everybody's familiar with our
Speaker 1: story over the past year if you're listening here, But
Speaker 1: it's when you have a new relationship where they are divorces,
Speaker 1: they're kids involved, you're always trying to find the right
Speaker 1: balance between your kids and your partner and bringing everybody together.
Speaker 1: And you have said it to you privately, I'll say
Speaker 1: it here publicly. You've been great and it's been one
Speaker 1: of the great, great, great joys over the past several
Speaker 1: months six months plus. Is how Sabine has really taken it.
Speaker 1: She's known you since she was one, but known you
Speaker 1: in a different capacity now. Has been really cool to
Speaker 1: watch and see her elect too. And even sometimes when
Speaker 1: I pick her from school, I say, yeah, no, Robot's
Speaker 1: not at the house and then she's like, okay, then
Speaker 1: I don't want to come because she's disappointed you're not
Speaker 1: there's and again, it is very sweet and it has
Speaker 1: been a really cool thing. It's been really cool to watch.
Speaker 2: And as we've mentioned, our daughters have known each other.
Speaker 2: My daughter's baby sat your daughter when she was little,
Speaker 2: and I know they communicated on her birthday as well,
Speaker 2: which was very sweet and it's just nice to see
Speaker 2: everything becoming normal and getting easier and effortless, actually because
Speaker 2: it was effort before and maybe that was just us
Speaker 2: putting the effort on the situation. But it's been great.
Speaker 2: And I love I mean, I love boys, and I
Speaker 2: love all of that. But I'm a girl mom, I
Speaker 2: always have been, so it comes very easily to me.
Speaker 2: And yeah, you kind of let.
Speaker 1: Girls lead the way.
Speaker 2: You can't tell a girl who to like, who to
Speaker 2: hang out with, what.
Speaker 1: To think, what to do. That just doesn't end well.
Speaker 2: So I at least have had that experience growing up
Speaker 2: with my daughters, so it's served me well on navigating
Speaker 2: all of this.
Speaker 1: So that's been great. She was actually with us, she
Speaker 1: was with us last night. Yeah, we're talking about movies,
Speaker 1: watching a horror movie of course with her conjuring too.
Speaker 1: It's so good. She loved it, right, she loved it.
Speaker 1: But I think everybody knows at this point we are
Speaker 1: big horror movie. We have not seen I cannot remember
Speaker 1: the last movie we saw at a theater that was
Speaker 1: not a horror movie, but now we have one. We
Speaker 1: actually saw a movie in the theater a couple of
Speaker 1: days ago that was not a horror movie.
Speaker 2: Yes, and we took on some heavy themes, but with
Speaker 2: some levity, right, some social satire.
Speaker 1: American it was American fiction. I was told to watch
Speaker 1: this by one of my boys. His his message. A
Speaker 1: brother came to me and sent a message, Happy New Year,
Speaker 1: and see American fiction is what he told us to do.
Speaker 1: He followed up by saying, see it with a theater
Speaker 1: full of white people. It makes it better. He was
Speaker 1: not kidding. I get it now, I didn't know it.
Speaker 1: So we went to the Angelica Film Festival. Film House
Speaker 1: is what it's called.
Speaker 2: I believe it's in Soho and sure enough it was
Speaker 2: about eighty five percent white.
Speaker 1: Would you say, maybe even higher, maybe ninety percent white
Speaker 1: for sure. But if you don't know what the movie
Speaker 1: is about, it essentially takes on these themes that we
Speaker 1: have in our society, a lot of racial themes. But
Speaker 1: this idea that so often in media or and business,
Speaker 1: that black voices and black stories aren't told unless they
Speaker 1: are greenlit by a white person executive. Those stories have
Speaker 1: to fit into what that white person thinks the black
Speaker 1: experience is. So oftentimes it's not an accurate depiction. It's
Speaker 1: some stereotypical depiction of what black life is supposed to be.
Speaker 2: And there were some subtle nots to that, and some
Speaker 2: overt ones and some very funny ones throughout and what
Speaker 2: was notable, And you and I both realized at one
Speaker 2: point that some very funny scenes we were the only
Speaker 2: people laughing.
Speaker 1: Because truly, if I weren't sitting.
Speaker 2: Next to you, and you weren't my boyfriend, I might
Speaker 2: have been afraid to laugh at them too, And I
Speaker 2: think that's what was happening. The white folks in the
Speaker 2: theater were like, can I laugh at that? Because it
Speaker 2: was so outrageous but true at the same time. And
Speaker 2: it was uncomfortable, which is what the whole point was.
Speaker 1: But it's specifically what, yes, what the movie is meant
Speaker 1: to be and to do. And there were times, I
Speaker 1: don't say uncomfortable, but I always felt like I was
Speaker 1: being rude because I was falling onto my chair laughing
Speaker 1: at some of the jokes in that movie. And it's
Speaker 1: dead silence in the theater.
Speaker 2: And your laughter gave me pervision to laugh because clearly
Speaker 2: it was funny, and so I decided to laugh with you.
Speaker 2: And there were I would say multiple times, were were
Speaker 2: the only two people laughing at very funny scenes in
Speaker 2: the theater.
Speaker 1: This was for a lot of and for black folks
Speaker 1: who cheer this movie and it's funny and it's again,
Speaker 1: it's brilliant. It will be in the Oscars race, for sure.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Wright is amazing as well in the lead. He's
Speaker 1: a wonderful actor that you all know. But for me,
Speaker 1: so many things I saw in the movie are things
Speaker 1: that I dealt with, certainly in newsrooms across the country
Speaker 1: over the past all of my career. But the one
Speaker 1: in particular has to do with, right, this is what
Speaker 1: I think of black people, and if you don't tell
Speaker 1: the story from that angle, then I'm not going to
Speaker 1: get your story on. And I've had that issue in
Speaker 1: newsrooms plenty of time, talk to you about this plenty.
Speaker 1: But being in a morning meeting where there's forty people
Speaker 1: in the meeting, thirty eight of them are white, I'm
Speaker 1: the one black male, And for so many times the
Speaker 1: story gets pitched and we hear the person pitching the
Speaker 1: story about a black person will put a caveat this
Speaker 1: person out of da no, no, no no. But it's okay.
Speaker 1: We can interview. They are so well spoken, they really
Speaker 1: they speak so well. So what they were doing in
Speaker 1: all those times, all those meetings was explaining to every
Speaker 1: all the white people that it's okay to put this
Speaker 1: black person on because I know what you're thinking. When
Speaker 1: I say black person, you think they are this. They
Speaker 1: talk like this, they look like this, say no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this white. I heard that so many times. And this
Speaker 1: movie brings up those themes and they do it in
Speaker 1: a comedic way that it should spark a better conversation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it validates your experience and it hopefully educates people
Speaker 2: who couldn't possibly have had that experience.
Speaker 1: So please go again. We highly endorse that movie American fiction.
Speaker 1: We rarely endorse something that's not a horror movie, but
Speaker 1: this one's great. Yeah, there've been a couple of them too.
Speaker 2: We watched You People Streaming and The Blackening also those
Speaker 2: All three of those movies take on similar themes in
Speaker 2: different ways of storytelling. That is very entertaining, and I
Speaker 2: really do think you learn something from it when you're
Speaker 2: watching it as a white person.
Speaker 1: Yes, and you learn that. We can never admit that
Speaker 1: we ever watch Friends, which I haven't, by the way,
Speaker 1: and of course I have, but we talk about drive
Speaker 1: Junior here at the top. But we're into this new year,
Speaker 1: and something that's on a lot of people's minds right now,
Speaker 1: of course is relationships. Either you are starting anew and
Speaker 1: you want to maybe get out of one, or you're
Speaker 1: looking to get into one. But the beginning of the
Speaker 1: year has two days in particular, they got something for everybody.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, both could be true. Yeah what
Speaker 1: you just said, so, yes, we found this out.
Speaker 2: I didn't know this beforehand, but there's a thing called
Speaker 2: divorce Day in this country, and lawyers have now kind
Speaker 2: of said, hey, this is the day. It's the Monday
Speaker 2: after January one each year where they say this is
Speaker 2: the biggest day for couples to file for divorce or
Speaker 2: contact a divorce lawyer to say, hey, I want to
Speaker 2: end this relationship. And January, I think has also been
Speaker 2: just divorce month because people finally say, okay, we made
Speaker 2: it through the holidays and I'm very now certain I
Speaker 2: don't want to be with this person for the rest
Speaker 2: of the year. And coincidentally, it was yesterday, actually Monday,
Speaker 2: January seventh of this year, or actually it was Sunday, Sunday,
Speaker 2: the second sorry Sunday to seventh is called Dating Sunday
Speaker 2: or Dating Day, and that is an actual day that
Speaker 2: has been recorded that apps dating apps across the board
Speaker 2: around the world see the biggest increase in volume and
Speaker 2: likes and response times all of that because people on
Speaker 2: that Sunday after New Year say hey, I want to
Speaker 2: be in or at least find some sort of relationship.
Speaker 1: So chances are if you're hearing our voice, you are
Speaker 1: in one of those categories that maybe trying to get
Speaker 1: out of a relationship with sounds like a down or a
Speaker 1: bad thing, but it can be a very positive thing
Speaker 1: for a lot of people but looking for something new.
Speaker 1: So we were curious about divorce Day and in particular
Speaker 1: dating Day as we turn the page on another year.
Speaker 1: So Michael k the global head of communications for Okay
Speaker 1: cup it is in studio here with us and let
Speaker 1: me start with that. How big of an uptick are
Speaker 1: we talking about? You all see in dating apps? See
Speaker 1: Michael on Dating Sunday.
Speaker 3: So, first of all, thank you for having me. It's
Speaker 3: an honor to be here as a listener and as
Speaker 3: a fan.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank.
Speaker 3: You honor to be here. Dating Sunday is pretty much
Speaker 3: the super Bowl for all dating apps, that's all the
Speaker 3: sports terminology you're going to be able to get out of.
Speaker 3: But every single first Sunday of the year we see
Speaker 3: double digit growth in terms of matches and likes and messages,
Speaker 3: and it sometimes it could hover between ten to twenty percent,
Speaker 3: and sometimes people think that feels so low, but you
Speaker 3: have to remember there are millions and millions of people
Speaker 3: on these dating apps, So this is happening really across
Speaker 3: the board. If you are into online dating or if
Speaker 3: you're trying it for the first time, dating Sunday and onward,
Speaker 3: especially in the first month or so of the year,
Speaker 3: is the time for you to be on OkCupid, hinge Hinder,
Speaker 3: whatever your app of choice really is.
Speaker 2: And with okay Cupid, a large part of going onto
Speaker 2: this app is to be matched, and there's science behind it.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So for anyone who's unfamiliar, Okacubid was actually founded
Speaker 3: by four math majors at Heartard and it comes as
Speaker 3: no surprise for anyone who's been on it. We are
Speaker 3: extremely data driven. Our algorithm is really complex, but we
Speaker 3: at our core match people on what matters to them
Speaker 3: through in app questions. It's really as simple as that
Speaker 3: We use our questions to serve as conversation starters. They
Speaker 3: also allow you to figure out what's important to you
Speaker 3: and really helps you define who you are, what you're
Speaker 3: looking for, and makes you think about what you're looking
Speaker 3: for in a partner as well. So there's everything related
Speaker 3: to dating, relationships, and sex, but also really anything that's
Speaker 3: top of mind for our gen Z millennial gen X daters.
Speaker 3: We have questions about black lives matter, and education reform
Speaker 3: and gun reform, and basically if you're talking about a
Speaker 3: topic with your friend, your family members, or your coworkers,
Speaker 3: we also want to ask about it on our platform
Speaker 3: because we are an app that foster's connection and conversation.
Speaker 1: Well, ok, ellen that point. So many folks will go
Speaker 1: into you meet somebody, You go into a bar, there's
Speaker 1: a friend, there's a We're used to meeting people in
Speaker 1: that organic way. Of course, apps have changed that. Is
Speaker 1: this a better system? You all have found in that
Speaker 1: when they do take the questionnaires, people have a better
Speaker 1: chance when they do answer these questions, when they do
Speaker 1: get their match percentage. Maybe you can figure that out
Speaker 1: if you met somebody at the bar, but it might
Speaker 1: take you longer. What are the results you all have
Speaker 1: seen over the years in terms of matching people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a better system, but it's also
Speaker 3: a more convenient system. You know, when you look at
Speaker 3: people daters today, they're dating very different than our parents.
Speaker 3: My parents went on a first date, they were a
Speaker 3: blind first date. They're together over sixty years. And for
Speaker 3: their generation, people were meeting in these gathering places. They
Speaker 3: were meeting at temple, they were meeting at church, they
Speaker 3: were meeting through family. But that's not how people are
Speaker 3: connecting today anymore. So it makes dating apps make it
Speaker 3: a lot more convenient for the person who's extremely busy
Speaker 3: and can't take time out of their days, nights, and
Speaker 3: weekends to go on fifty first dates, and it allows
Speaker 3: them to kind of comb through that list and really
Speaker 3: easily on a dating app, find people that they're really
Speaker 3: compatible with, that they have views that aligned with them,
Speaker 3: and really narrowed that list down and say, I know
Speaker 3: you're someone that there may be a connection with because
Speaker 3: we agree on XYZ.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I did say this.
Speaker 2: I believe last week that one of the things I
Speaker 2: learned in twenty twenty three was that, yes, chemistry is important,
Speaker 2: but compatibility. I feel like is the most important part
Speaker 2: of a relationship. And so to that point, TJ and I,
Speaker 2: I mean, we know we have chemistry and I think
Speaker 2: we're compatible. We are, Okay, I do, I think so too,
Speaker 2: But does the science back that up?
Speaker 1: We don't need it too, baby, So we're gonna find out.
Speaker 2: So we actually asked Michael to give us some of
Speaker 2: the questions that they ask anyone who goes onto their
Speaker 2: apps to fill out and then they're then matched with someone.
Speaker 1: So we did the questions this weekend. Over the weekend,
Speaker 1: we don't know what each other answered, and Michael has
Speaker 1: the results of what our questionnaire.
Speaker 2: Shows whether or not we're a match or not. There's
Speaker 2: a percentage right, yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 3: As a match percentage on every user.
Speaker 2: Scenes Okay, I'm definitely a little nervous, But when we
Speaker 2: come back, we're going to get the results and talk
Speaker 2: about what it all means.
Speaker 1: All right, We're back here with a moment of truth, folks.
Speaker 1: We got Michael k the global head of communications for
Speaker 1: our kay cup It here in studio with us. We've
Speaker 1: been talking about nash Well, divorce Day and Dating app Day,
Speaker 1: and everybody has relationships on their mind. Around to possibly
Speaker 1: get out of one or get into a new one.
Speaker 1: And dating apps are a big part of that. And okay,
Speaker 1: cupe it is one that gives you a questionnaire, you
Speaker 1: fill it out, other people fill it out, and then okay,
Speaker 1: keep it two you whether or not you are a match.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wonder how many already established couples like ourselves go
Speaker 1: on to then take this quiz and find out after
Speaker 1: the fact we're doing it backward they're actually comfatible or
Speaker 1: what their match percentage is. Okay, So Michael helped us
Speaker 1: out with this, so they sent us a list of questions.
Speaker 1: Robot and I filled them out over the weekend. We
Speaker 1: didn't see the other's answers, so we have no idea.
Speaker 1: But it's about to be revealed, all right, Michael. He's
Speaker 1: gonna tell us if we had done this as two
Speaker 1: singles on the app, would we have been matched, or
Speaker 1: what our match percentage is? So let's start there. What
Speaker 1: is our match percentI is, Michael, So I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Unvolve that later. We're really gonna make you wait for this,
Speaker 3: but I will say, Okay, we're definitely doing it backwards.
Speaker 3: But I've done this a lot with people who are
Speaker 3: already dating, engaged, married, Okay, and I have to say,
Speaker 3: y'all agreed on a lot, okay, overwhelmingly. Okay, so we're
Speaker 3: starting off on a strong place. Okay, so let's kick
Speaker 3: it off there. You're both and no one yell at me.
Speaker 3: They call themselves this. You're both extroverts, you're both intense people.
Speaker 3: You're mourning people. You enjoy relaxing at home. You're closer
Speaker 3: with your family, you're open to cooking together. But I
Speaker 3: don't want anyone to get bored. We definitely asked saucy
Speaker 3: questions too, and you're all really aligned there as well.
Speaker 1: So you so we're boring, is what you're saying.
Speaker 3: Not for much longer. You both enjoy sex more than
Speaker 3: for play. You're both super into post workout sex and
Speaker 3: shower sex, and people they prefer cuffs over ropes. So
Speaker 3: there was literally no question off limits in this test,
Speaker 3: which made it so.
Speaker 1: Much more fun.
Speaker 3: I feel like I've known you guys for years as well,
Speaker 3: so there was a lot in the bedroom out of
Speaker 3: the bedroom that you aligned on, solid, solid star.
Speaker 1: I now know us better than my parents do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't listen to this one. You're going to edit
Speaker 3: that out, So is there anything there that shocked you?
Speaker 1: No? No, Actually, the thing is we know each other.
Speaker 2: Really really, we've been friends now for nine years, and
Speaker 2: so when we it's an interesting thing when you're when
Speaker 2: you don't have romantic designs on someone, you're more willing
Speaker 2: to be telling all and vulnerable. And I let him
Speaker 2: see Mike works. He let me see his in a
Speaker 2: way that I don't think you would do if you
Speaker 2: just started out dating. So we actually know, maybe even
Speaker 2: too much about it.
Speaker 1: Do you have things in there that we didn't agree
Speaker 1: on as well?
Speaker 3: Yes, so let's talk about where you disagree it. And
Speaker 3: there were questions like, keep in mind sometimes there's multiple options,
Speaker 3: four options, so some questions you technically disagreed, but it's
Speaker 3: barely a disagreement. So there are a couple of things
Speaker 3: where you answer differently. We also asked what you value
Speaker 3: most in a partner. You disagreed on this, but I
Speaker 3: loved your responses. So Amy said, communication, TJ. You said trust.
Speaker 3: What neither of you said was physical attraction and romance,
Speaker 3: And while both of those are absolutely important, it really
Speaker 3: showed me that you both were looking for that deep,
Speaker 3: meaningful relationship with a really strong foundation. So I didn't
Speaker 3: even want to consider that a disagreement.
Speaker 2: And I actually was going back and forth between trust
Speaker 2: and communication. I didn't know how to put one above
Speaker 2: the other.
Speaker 3: Yeah it's a hard one. Yeah, it's a hard one.
Speaker 3: You also disagreed on discussing politics. Oh, yeah, that was
Speaker 3: something you were not aligned on. You know, my parents
Speaker 3: never talked about politics at the at the dinner table.
Speaker 3: So it's a very different time. But almost twenty million
Speaker 3: people on our app right now said they enjoy discussing politics,
Speaker 3: and eight and ten people actually want to talk politics
Speaker 3: with a romantic partner.
Speaker 1: Was the breakdown? I said no? When she said yes,
Speaker 1: is that what I said?
Speaker 2: No? I said yes, Well, because you know what I've
Speaker 2: always said this, maybe now a little bit less, but
Speaker 2: when you are in the news business and you're talking
Speaker 2: about politics at work, the last thing I want to
Speaker 2: do when I'm not on the job or on the
Speaker 2: clock is talk about politics. And not everybody is the same,
Speaker 2: but it's just one of those things where I like
Speaker 2: to do and talk about other things than things I
Speaker 2: can't change that are beyond frustrating to me at a
Speaker 2: certain point.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's just being in the business for as long
Speaker 1: as I have. But yeah, I don't like to take
Speaker 1: my work home.
Speaker 3: See that makes sense to me because on the weekends
Speaker 3: I'll have all my friends say, can you help me
Speaker 3: with my hinge profile or my okay, keep it profile.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, really tell me Monday through Friday eight
Speaker 3: right eight am to five pm.
Speaker 1: Exactly. It's my poor brother who's a doctor. He can't
Speaker 1: go into a party without someone, you know, lifting up
Speaker 1: their sleeve and showing him a rash and asking him
Speaker 1: what it is. So I that's just where I stand.
Speaker 1: You liked. We haven't talked about politics much. I think
Speaker 1: we do, but we don't talk about it in the
Speaker 1: way that oftentimes I think so many families do around
Speaker 1: the dinner table. You're voted for that person, I voted
Speaker 1: for this person. We are issue based conversations that we
Speaker 1: have a lot of times. But no, I wouldn't dare like,
Speaker 1: oh who'd you vote for? You vote for him? Oh
Speaker 1: I would you do this promp, let's talk about Biden.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: We don't do that at all at all.
Speaker 3: Another place where you guys disagreed, and I wonder what
Speaker 3: you each think the other person said was is jealousy
Speaker 3: healthy in a.
Speaker 1: Relationship, So I said yes, I said hell no. So
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like to.
Speaker 2: Act on that jealousy or be petty or small. But
Speaker 2: feeling that bit of jealousy makes me know that I
Speaker 2: want to be with him and only him, and I
Speaker 2: want him to be with me and only me, And
Speaker 2: it just I don't know, it just I don't like
Speaker 2: the feeling, and I don't want to act on it,
Speaker 2: but knowing it's there actually in a weird way, makes
Speaker 2: me feel good.
Speaker 1: Two things, How do you act on jealousy?
Speaker 2: How would you ask by accusing somebody or saying don't
Speaker 2: talk to that person?
Speaker 1: Or how dare you do this? Like? I don't think
Speaker 1: that that's correct or right or healthy at all in
Speaker 1: a relationship? Part too, Okay. The second thing goes back
Speaker 1: to the question when the answer was trust. I don't
Speaker 1: worry about it, think about it at all. It's a
Speaker 1: trust matter with me. I don't need to get you
Speaker 1: if you want to go do whatever you want to do.
Speaker 1: If I see you out that window right there, talking
Speaker 1: all flirty or whatever with anybody and like yourself out,
Speaker 1: that's my woman. She's going on with me. Whatever I
Speaker 1: see there whatever I trust that I have to, but
Speaker 1: not to.
Speaker 3: Speak for you. But I feel like you and I
Speaker 3: Amy are really aligned on this question. I don't think
Speaker 3: it's about trust for either of us. I think she
Speaker 3: wholeheartedly trusts you.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: But if I see my boyfriend and there's another guy
Speaker 3: at the bar talking to him, I see red. That
Speaker 3: does not mean they should not be talking. It does
Speaker 3: not mean I think my boyfriend is going to cross
Speaker 3: any line.
Speaker 1: Yep. But there is that little piece.
Speaker 2: Of jealous I always I don't think I'm a jealous
Speaker 2: person generally, but when you feel that little bit of twine,
Speaker 2: it's like, ooh, like it just reminds you how you
Speaker 2: feel about that person.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I agree. I'm going to take your jealousy
Speaker 1: out for a spin. If you're really going to stand
Speaker 1: by that statement, Well, no, maybe it is a little
Speaker 1: level of confidence or arrogance or even on my part
Speaker 1: to where I look and I just it doesn't register
Speaker 1: to me, and I guess I'm just not jealous in
Speaker 1: that way.
Speaker 2: Well, I hope that I would never act on it,
Speaker 2: or that you would never see or feel or hear
Speaker 2: anything from me.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, You're always you're always flirty and doing
Speaker 1: stuff and over there inside of the day which fall.
Speaker 1: I don't know where you're stop, but there is trust there.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you still can't feel that little good.
Speaker 3: Well, I wish you could, so we require an okay,
Speaker 3: keep it to people. Answer fifteen of these questions. Y'all
Speaker 3: went on to answer much much more. You answer dozens
Speaker 3: of them, and after looking at both, your response is
Speaker 3: lie it up. Factoring in that you would also most
Speaker 3: likely be looking for the same things in terms of
Speaker 3: age and a partner and location and all that, we
Speaker 3: scored you an eighty four percent. Oh wow, which is
Speaker 3: really high. Everyone tries to aim for that one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: I have never once I've been working with here five years.
Speaker 3: I met thousands of couples. I've never met at a
Speaker 3: couple that matched one hundred percent. And also, I don't
Speaker 3: know if I would ever want that in a part.
Speaker 3: You need a little bit of disagreement and misalignment, you know,
Speaker 3: I think that keeps it fun and exciting. But where
Speaker 3: you both aligned on was the really important core factors
Speaker 3: in a relationship. It was clear from the beginning you
Speaker 3: were aligned on family matters. You were aligned on what
Speaker 3: you're looking for in a relationship. That's really what's most important.
Speaker 3: And you're aligned on horror movies.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I did see some of the questions we
Speaker 2: didn't get. I saw how important is religion to you?
Speaker 2: I can't read my own writing because I don't have
Speaker 2: my glasses on. Do you like scary movies? Could you
Speaker 2: ever date someone really messy? We would agree on all
Speaker 2: of those things, but I was just thinking about how
Speaker 2: deep some of these questions do go. Yeah, why would
Speaker 2: you want to answer more just to get a clearer
Speaker 2: picture of who you might be dating?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Again, we see a lot of people actually go
Speaker 3: on to answer more and more, and it's because the
Speaker 3: more you answer, the more compatible your matches are going
Speaker 3: to be. But I also think the way the questions
Speaker 3: are written, it really challenges you as a person to say, oh,
Speaker 3: I didn't think that would be important to me, but
Speaker 3: it actually is. Or this used to be at the
Speaker 3: top of my list, and now I don't know if
Speaker 3: I even care about it anymore. Especially during the pandemic,
Speaker 3: we saw a lot of people change what was important
Speaker 3: to them because you can actually rank your questions. I do, okay,
Speaker 3: keep it how important it is to you, that's cool.
Speaker 3: When I first started in twenty nineteen, people all they
Speaker 3: were answering questions about were holding hands on a date
Speaker 3: and coffee for a first date, or if they want
Speaker 3: to go to dinner or drinks. That has completely changed.
Speaker 3: The most answered questions and the questions ranked most important
Speaker 3: are do you support marriage equality? Do you support reproductive healthcare?
Speaker 3: Do you think women have the right to choose what
Speaker 3: they want to do with their own bodies? Do you
Speaker 3: prioritize mental health? Are you open to therapy? People really
Speaker 3: changed over the past few years what's most most important
Speaker 3: to them? And I think our questions really help them
Speaker 3: uncover their must haves and they're nice to haves.
Speaker 1: What would you can you overcome? You said must haves
Speaker 1: and nice to have? But this idea of compatibility, what
Speaker 1: did you say? A second no, you said compatibility and
Speaker 1: something that was another way chemistry? Chemistry.
Speaker 2: Chemistry is fleeting, you know, I mean it can it
Speaker 2: could just be attraction.
Speaker 1: But on those two things, when it as far as
Speaker 1: you Ole's research and the questions go compatibility, we sometimes
Speaker 1: it seems surface right. We like horror movies, that makes
Speaker 1: us compatible. We like to cook it makes us compatible.
Speaker 1: We enjoy a nice rose that makes us compatible. But
Speaker 1: then when people see themselves not come patible in those ways,
Speaker 1: they think, Okay, then that's a rap and I'm done.
Speaker 1: But when they do have those things and they're so
Speaker 1: compatible and have good chemistry, sometimes they forget about the
Speaker 1: core those core questions. Can you overcome I'm always fascinated
Speaker 1: by this. Can you overcome a lack of compatibility with
Speaker 1: someone from your reason? Can you overcome that if you
Speaker 1: do have the core value? Or is compatibility something that
Speaker 1: always always needs to be there on things that seem small?
Speaker 3: I think you need to break down what you're talking
Speaker 3: about in terms of comibi compatibility and what you're compatible on.
Speaker 3: I don't care if my partner loves Harry Potter or
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift or The Real Housewives as much as I do.
Speaker 3: They need to stand my favorite ogs, but they don't
Speaker 3: have to watch the shows as much as I do.
Speaker 3: What I refuse to compromise on when it comes to
Speaker 3: compatibility is how you feel about LGBTQ plus rights, black
Speaker 3: Lives Matter, stop Asian hate, really, all these kind of
Speaker 3: heavier things that we've been going through over the past
Speaker 3: few years. And I think that's what Okay, keep it
Speaker 3: does for you. But really, any every dating app does
Speaker 3: this in some kind of way. It helps you figure
Speaker 3: out as long as you're aligned on those deeper issues.
Speaker 3: We see a lot of issues based dating. Right now,
Speaker 3: then I think you can move on and figure out
Speaker 3: how important the other things are and if compatibility there
Speaker 3: really matters to you. My boyfriends never drink coffee. I
Speaker 3: drink coffee daily. We're not compatible when you think of that,
Speaker 3: that's okay.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you don't like coffee. I do. We've survived
Speaker 1: you like I just heard of it about three months ago.
Speaker 1: That's true. Those are the things that make it interesting, right.
Speaker 1: I heard a little while ago that there's this phrase
Speaker 1: that a lot of folks use, even in the online
Speaker 1: dating world.
Speaker 2: Opposites attract and then they attack. Have you all found
Speaker 2: that to be the case.
Speaker 1: Yes and no.
Speaker 3: My partner and I I would say many many ways
Speaker 3: are opposites. There's parts of us. One's more extrovert, ones
Speaker 3: more introvert. We've grown up differently, we're part of different religions,
Speaker 3: we came out at different moments in our life. So
Speaker 3: there's a lot that are definitely more opposite, but we
Speaker 3: do again. We come together on those things that really
Speaker 3: truly matter in a partnership. And I think over time,
Speaker 3: definitely rocking in the beginning, harder in the beginning, for sure,
Speaker 3: but over time we've started to balance each other out
Speaker 3: and bring out the best in one another.
Speaker 2: What's the one thing you think a relationship has to
Speaker 2: have in order for it to work that you all
Speaker 2: have found in order for.
Speaker 1: It to last?
Speaker 3: Communication and transparent communication, because so many of us, I think,
Speaker 3: and I've seen this in relationships over the years. People
Speaker 3: hit a rough patch and they immediately think, oh, it's over,
Speaker 3: like we absolutely have to break up. And my boyfriend
Speaker 3: and I've been dating almost ten years this summer, and congratulations, yes,
Speaker 3: thank you. We've met on Tinder and there's definitely been
Speaker 3: rough patches over the years. There have been really hard
Speaker 3: years and really hard moments in that decade. The reason
Speaker 3: why we're still together is because we've communicated transparently. We've
Speaker 3: had really tough conversations, lots of tears in those conversations,
Speaker 3: and we've made it through the other side because in
Speaker 3: those conversations we've been able to say, you know, these
Speaker 3: are the things we're both struggling with but we want
Speaker 3: to make it work, and here's how we're going to
Speaker 3: make it work, and we'll come up with a process
Speaker 3: that works for us. But if we weren't communicating, we
Speaker 3: would have broken up years and years ago without a
Speaker 3: second thought. So I would say communication is absolutely the
Speaker 3: most important thing that's vital in a relationship.
Speaker 1: Next week, continue with Michael K, global head of communication
Speaker 1: at okay Cubit with maybe some tips for you putting
Speaker 1: that profile together. Stay here, back here with Michael K,
Speaker 1: global head of communication for okay Cube, talking to you
Speaker 1: about match percentages at okayqube. You gave us our percentage
Speaker 1: a short time ago. You say we were eighty four percent.
Speaker 1: I think match what is the average you will kind
Speaker 1: of see on your site.
Speaker 3: It hovers in the seventies to nineties. That's really the
Speaker 3: sweet spot. It's a big range, but it also depends
Speaker 3: on where you're looking in the app as well. We
Speaker 3: actually have a section of the app that's people we
Speaker 3: recommend to you, and there you're going to see people
Speaker 3: with the highest match percentage got so.
Speaker 2: We might not necessarily have been in each other's in box.
Speaker 1: Eighty four percent definitely won okay, okay, okay, good, So
Speaker 1: we're above average. That's what we're above average.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know this is fascinating as my daughters are
Speaker 2: now getting into the dating world. My oldest is twenty one,
Speaker 2: my youngest is about to turn eighteen, and I keep
Speaker 2: hearing this situationship thing thrown around. I saw that you're
Speaker 2: seeing an increase or at least dating apps are seeing
Speaker 2: an increase in ethical non monogamy e NM. I just
Speaker 2: learned what that acronym was. But then I'm hearing situationship
Speaker 2: at home. When people go onto these apps, are you
Speaker 2: seeing generally the younger folks coming in not necessarily looking
Speaker 2: for committed relationships or with some sort of destination in
Speaker 2: mind with their relationship?
Speaker 3: You know, I think it really depends on the app
Speaker 3: that you're looking at. That not every app caters to
Speaker 3: the same demographic. For Okay, keep it. We make you
Speaker 3: do a lot of work, admittedly to get your profile
Speaker 3: up and running. That's actually by design. We want people
Speaker 3: who are taking dating a little bit more seriously, which
Speaker 3: is why we lean a lot heavier in millennials and
Speaker 3: gen zers who are probably out of college.
Speaker 2: Not my daughter's got.
Speaker 3: It, and you brought up ethical non monogamy and situationships.
Speaker 3: I think there's probably a little bit of overlap between
Speaker 3: the two, but they are separate, and I want to
Speaker 3: distinguish between the two. Situationships tend to be between two
Speaker 3: people who really hadn't haven't yet had that conversation about
Speaker 3: what they are, where they're going. They're taking it a
Speaker 3: little bit more slowly and aren't as in a rush
Speaker 3: to say, you know, we're only dating each other, We're
Speaker 3: a boyfriend girlfriend. They might still be dating around. Ethical
Speaker 3: non monogamy is between two people who are committed and
Speaker 3: have chosen in that commitment to open their relationships, and
Speaker 3: we are seeing a ride in that. It's still the minority.
Speaker 3: So when you look at most dating apps, the overwhelming
Speaker 3: majority it's going to be people who are looking for
Speaker 3: monogamous relationships. But you know, we have been seeing for
Speaker 3: years arise in people interested in open relationships. I actually
Speaker 3: don't think it's new. I think we are in a
Speaker 3: time where people are more comfortable having these conversations more openly.
Speaker 1: Okay, you gotta help me here. You said it's not new,
Speaker 1: but it's just a new name or new thing to
Speaker 1: call it. I mean I don't think it's really a
Speaker 1: new trend. I just think we're talking about it more often.
Speaker 1: I think if you asked your parents if they knew
Speaker 1: anyone who had an open relationship, chances are they might
Speaker 1: have known one or two couples. I know my parents,
Speaker 1: who are baby boomers knew a couple like this, and
Speaker 1: my aunt who's a gen xer, knows a couple of
Speaker 1: couples like this. So I think we're just talking about it.
Speaker 1: But do I not have the definition right ethical non monogamy?
Speaker 1: We're just talking about open relationships. Yeah, okay, that's it.
Speaker 1: The trade is throwing me off, okay, but now it's
Speaker 1: being more widely accepted, or being.
Speaker 2: More accepted than it has been in the past perhaps
Speaker 2: and not something to be ashamed of or to hide.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say gens. One thing that gen Z
Speaker 3: is just crushing it at is removing stigma for so
Speaker 3: many things in our society, and gen Z are as
Speaker 3: millennials definitely the most open to open relationships. But because
Speaker 3: they're talking about it more, it's really relieving that stigma,
Speaker 3: which is allowing more and more people to talk about
Speaker 3: and say he actually, this is what I'm into and
Speaker 3: that's okay, And you know there's many apps. Okay, if
Speaker 3: you been included, that makes it really easy for you
Speaker 3: to find other people who are looking for this as well.
Speaker 1: Ethical non monogamy. I'm not into that, by the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know. Now I don't even know
Speaker 1: what it is quite yet either, it's but yeah, there
Speaker 1: are people who want and.
Speaker 2: And you know it's great for everyone else if that
Speaker 2: floats your but I'm just letting you.
Speaker 1: Know that it does not blow mine. And she has
Speaker 1: multiple witnesses. Look something for us, and we'll tell you
Speaker 1: the truth here, Michael.
Speaker 2: We have.
Speaker 1: Robes and I have been through a lot together, certainly
Speaker 1: over the past year, year and a half plus, and
Speaker 1: so much of that we've had moments throughout that time
Speaker 1: that are very difficult to where we there's so much
Speaker 1: on the line for us, and there has been and
Speaker 1: for us to be together took so much and there
Speaker 1: was so much sacrifice and you're going into this commitment,
Speaker 1: and there have been moments we had a really probably
Speaker 1: the closest we ever got to our relationship ending was
Speaker 1: a disagreement of fight we had that was really based
Speaker 1: on a fear and a lack of communication to where
Speaker 1: we thought, wow, we went through all this, and we
Speaker 1: went did all this, and maybe we're not compatible or
Speaker 1: maybe we missed something. So we were freaking out a
Speaker 1: little bit. To hear the results today. That is not
Speaker 1: a joke. Well, you're talking about base our first fight, right, Uh,
Speaker 1: it was early. It was one of the first two.
Speaker 1: I would say.
Speaker 2: I think you know, also, we had had such we
Speaker 2: always had fun together. We rarely ever had an issue
Speaker 2: where we disagreed, and we are very like minded. So yeah,
Speaker 2: when the first thing happens the first time, you think,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I don't know this person. I thought
Speaker 2: I knew this person. I don't know that person. So
Speaker 2: I mean that can happen. But the score, I do
Speaker 2: feel now better about it.
Speaker 1: Ah, But like I just met Michael. Now, oh he
Speaker 1: gave us a stambo approval. Now we're gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: But it was one of those things and we were,
Speaker 1: you know, to do it. We got it revealed for
Speaker 1: the first time by you. We didn't know what was
Speaker 1: going to come out of it. But it was as
Speaker 1: much as we're having fun here and talking about it.
Speaker 1: I think everybody deals in that they're looking at a
Speaker 1: percentage score. Okay, I'm matched with ninety percent, so we
Speaker 1: should be good to go. But it's not just an
Speaker 1: exact science and it's not just there's so much involved here.
Speaker 1: So for people who are listening and thinking just about
Speaker 1: a score, I need to get some I lose seventy
Speaker 1: to ninety percent, and if I don't, then that's no good.
Speaker 1: Give those folks some perspective here. You kind of throughout
Speaker 1: you have done so, but just want to remind people
Speaker 1: of that it's not so black and white.
Speaker 3: I also think people need to remember that what we
Speaker 3: watch in a rom com is not reality by any means.
Speaker 3: And I there's something that my parents said years ago,
Speaker 3: way before I ever met my boyfriend or came out
Speaker 3: of the closet or anything that's stuck with me. And
Speaker 3: again they're baby boomers, they have gone through a lot.
Speaker 3: Again I mentioned they've been married over sixty years. But
Speaker 3: they always said people are too quick to give up,
Speaker 3: And that's always in the back of my head in
Speaker 3: my own relationship. That doesn't mean that you should stay
Speaker 3: with the wrong person. Get out if it does not
Speaker 3: make sense for you. And I think in your gut
Speaker 3: you're going to know when it doesn't make sense, but
Speaker 3: one bad fight, one bad week, does not make a
Speaker 3: bad year or a bad relationship. And I think as
Speaker 3: long as you're having that conversation in a very respectful way,
Speaker 3: you can power through those bumps. For me, it's about
Speaker 3: finding that person that you want to weather the storm with.
Speaker 2: I think most people know we have four divorces between us,
Speaker 2: and I had two thirteen year marriages, so it wasn't
Speaker 2: like cutting and running or anything, and a lot of
Speaker 2: lessons learned along the way. But this is one of
Speaker 2: those things where, unfortunately, sometimes you learn the hard way
Speaker 2: what works and what doesn't. And just I'm curious, does
Speaker 2: Okay Cupid follow any of these couples that you put
Speaker 2: together and find out who makes it and who doesn't?
Speaker 2: I mean, have you all done research and given thought
Speaker 2: to that In terms of when people are looking for
Speaker 2: that right person and say they have a really high
Speaker 2: compatibility or a match percentage, What is it about couples
Speaker 2: that makes them stay together or makes them eventually break up?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't have an exact answer for this. What I
Speaker 3: can say part of my job is managing our social
Speaker 3: media and with that I have the really privilege of
Speaker 3: reading a ton of dms that come in every single
Speaker 3: day from people who have used okay Cupid. And because
Speaker 3: it's a DM, it's private, they're extremely vulnerable. There's a
Speaker 3: ton of them that share their wedding photos, their engagement photos,
Speaker 3: their first children, all those success stories. And that's great.
Speaker 3: And I actually keep a lot of people send us
Speaker 3: wedding invitations. I keep those on my desk every day
Speaker 3: to remind me why I do what I do. But
Speaker 3: what I really love hearing about is the people who
Speaker 3: may have met someone on okay Cupid and not wound
Speaker 3: up with them forever, and they will unpack that for
Speaker 3: me and tell me about that experience. And I think
Speaker 3: we often when a relationship ends, we classify that as
Speaker 3: a failure. We failed, it did not work. That is
Speaker 3: not a failure, just moving on to the next chapter.
Speaker 3: So I actually love hearing those stories of someone who says, I,
Speaker 3: you know, I've met people who said I love Okay
Speaker 3: keep it, but they're single. And people are like, why,
Speaker 3: how do you love a dating app when you're when
Speaker 3: you're single, They're like, well, I had several really great
Speaker 3: partners that I met on that app and it worked
Speaker 3: for me. Might not have worked forever, but it worked
Speaker 3: for me at some point.
Speaker 1: Can you tell folks and the advice to not because
Speaker 1: you've even when I was filling out the questions, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you did this, but you almost look
Speaker 1: at it and you're saying, well, I should say this
Speaker 1: or should I say this? Right, I guess you would
Speaker 1: definitely say you need to be vulnerable, authentic, and yourself
Speaker 1: certainly off the bed and not try to manipulate the
Speaker 1: answers to try to find a certain type of person.
Speaker 3: That is the worst thing you can do is not
Speaker 3: be yourself. And to your point, there's definitely people who
Speaker 3: start out. I think the more questions you answer, you
Speaker 3: kind of forget that you're you stop doing this because
Speaker 3: you become less mindful of it. I think in the beginning,
Speaker 3: people answer the way they think other people want, and
Speaker 3: then as they continue, they just forget about it and
Speaker 3: they're just becoming more and more and more honest. But
Speaker 3: what we see happen if you are putting out a
Speaker 3: version of yourself that you think other people are looking for,
Speaker 3: you're only going to attract people who are looking for
Speaker 3: that version that might not be you. So I tell
Speaker 3: people all the time. If you don't want to be married,
Speaker 3: that's great, say that on your dating app profile. If
Speaker 3: you do not want children, there's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 3: I'm this is controversial. I'm not a pet person. I
Speaker 3: don't think you guys either.
Speaker 1: You don't say and I have a dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I loved him, but I wouldn't consider myself
Speaker 2: a pet person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not my jam. But I you know, you
Speaker 1: walk house. I mean, he's adorable. I hope he's not
Speaker 1: listening to I know that would be awful if you
Speaker 1: heard what I just said. Do you feel like feeling
Speaker 1: to his point when you were feeling it out? Because
Speaker 1: we were sitting across a table from each other, figling
Speaker 1: it out, and then I hear her crack up laughing
Speaker 1: as she years me make a comment. Did you find
Speaker 1: yourself saying like, what would he say?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yes, for sure. Yes.
Speaker 2: I think that's a human experience to want to put
Speaker 2: your best foot forward. But if you actually just admit
Speaker 2: who you are, it's going to be better in the
Speaker 2: end because they're gonna find out absolutely.
Speaker 3: And I think putting your best foot forward is still
Speaker 3: showing who you are. There's nothing wrong with what you're
Speaker 3: interested in or what you're looking for, But you have
Speaker 3: to be honest about it because otherwise you're going to
Speaker 3: waste your time and you're gonna waste the other person's
Speaker 3: time if you are just not looking for the same things.
Speaker 1: Same with the photos.
Speaker 2: You know, I know there's a lot of filters out there,
Speaker 2: but what would you suggest?
Speaker 3: No filters, no group photos. If you're going to do
Speaker 3: group photos, save it for the end of your like
Speaker 3: little scroll of photos, and ditch the selfies. I love
Speaker 3: a selfie. It took like three on the way here today.
Speaker 1: Oh so did I. However, I don't need to see
Speaker 1: that on your dating app profile.
Speaker 3: Use I. You know, when you put any thing on
Speaker 3: your profile, whether it's photos or something you're writing in,
Speaker 3: I always like to think, what's the purpose that this
Speaker 3: is serving? Is it serving as a conversation starter? Is
Speaker 3: it showing someone what I'm interested in? So if I
Speaker 3: were to create a dating app profile today, I would
Speaker 3: post a photo of the first half marathon I ran,
Speaker 3: me at Taylor Swift's aerostour, me at the Harry Potter
Speaker 3: World in London, because what those photos are going to
Speaker 3: do is one it's going to tell people my hobbies
Speaker 3: and what I'm interested in. It also gives them something
Speaker 3: to say to me, because hey, hi, hello. Actually have
Speaker 3: the highest rate of being ignored on dating apps. But
Speaker 3: by those three photos alone, someone can say what era
Speaker 3: are you in? Or which was your favorite book or movie?
Speaker 3: Or are you training for the New York City Marathon?
Speaker 3: And you immediately jump into this conversation that's grounded in
Speaker 3: something you're already comfortable speaking about.
Speaker 1: What would your pictures be?
Speaker 2: I knew you were announced me that for sure, the
Speaker 2: New York City Marathon because that's a huge part of
Speaker 2: my life. I know you said no group photos, but
Speaker 2: I would definitely want my daughters, just for people to
Speaker 2: know that I'm a mother, because that's a huge part
Speaker 2: of who I am. And maybe me eating popcorn, watching
Speaker 2: a horror movie.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Wow, I don't know, climbing a mountain, hiking that would
Speaker 2: have turned you off immediately.
Speaker 1: All of yours probably would have turned me off. I
Speaker 1: don't know what we would imagine yours, Oh that's easy.
Speaker 1: Me be cooking, me standing next to a razorback of
Speaker 1: some kind probably and maybe running at this point.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Georgia football would probably be a part.
Speaker 1: Of it, maybe with a drink in hand, making mixing
Speaker 1: a drink. Yeah, we've definitely connected over college football too.
Speaker 1: That was another common thread we had. Michael. This has
Speaker 1: been great. Thank you for giving our relationship the stamp
Speaker 1: of approval. We've been looking for that palidation for a long.
Speaker 2: Time and Michael Kay just gave it to us and
Speaker 2: hopefully some some things to think about as you all
Speaker 2: continue your journey and looking for that special someone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, stay at it, folks. It's okay. And like you said,
Speaker 1: I think that was great advice. It's okay. You're not
Speaker 1: a failure because of relationship ends. You're moving on to
Speaker 1: the next thing or maybe that was where you were
Speaker 1: supposed to be at that point in your life and
Speaker 1: you need somebody to take you through the next the
Speaker 1: next phase of your life. So that was a great, great,
Speaker 1: great advice. So it's a pleasure having you. Hope we
Speaker 1: can have you back and you're here and here in
Speaker 1: town with us, right in New York.
Speaker 3: Yeah absolutely, I will. I will venture more downtown for both.
Speaker 2: Of you, honest, all right, and after dry January preferably, I'm.
Speaker 1: Doing dry January as well.
Speaker 3: Oh you are, Oh.
Speaker 2: Gosh, Okay, I feel so much better now, and.
Speaker 3: I actually will say I did dry August and I
Speaker 3: carried into September. I wasn't in a rush. Wow, I'm
Speaker 3: get interested to see how February first goes for you.
Speaker 2: Well, February sixth is my birthday, so I will most
Speaker 2: certainly have some have some drinks in my hands.
Speaker 1: So problem Michael, really, thank you so much, and folks,
Speaker 1: thank you all as well. I hope you got something
Speaker 1: out of this conversation today besides just a little fun.
Speaker 1: So our takeaway here is, by all means, enjoy your
Speaker 1: dry January, happy dating. Go see American Fiction. What else
Speaker 1: does it takeaway?
Speaker 2: And for every relationship there is a reason, a season,
Speaker 2: or lifetime, and it's okay if they fall into any
Speaker 2: of those three categories.
Speaker 1: All right, folks, Well Amy and TJ. Here You can
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Speaker 1: You can follow both of us on Instagram as well,
Speaker 1: But for now, this is Amy and TJ, the eighty
Speaker 1: four percent couple. Drop the mic