Speaker 1: Hey guys, Sunday Sampler, what do your thank you? We
Speaker 1: had a two new podcasts in the Vets Office with
Speaker 1: Doctor Josie and take this personally with Morgan Hulesman. You'll
Speaker 1: hear a clip from these episodes and just a bit
Speaker 1: and subscribe to those if you like them, love them.
Speaker 1: On the Bobby Cast, I sat down with Hunter Girl
Speaker 1: talk about what life was like before she hit it
Speaker 1: and before American idol and the origin of her stage name.
Speaker 1: Really love to be around her and all the cool
Speaker 1: stuff she does even outside of music.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna get started here.
Speaker 1: Within the Vets office with Doctor Josie, they had Dug
Speaker 1: the Pug on Dug the Og celebrity dog millions of
Speaker 1: Instagram followers. So Doctor Josie talked with his owner Leslie
Speaker 1: about how famous Doug got the rise to fame the DMS.
Speaker 2: He gets funny episode.
Speaker 1: Here we go in the Vets Office with Doctor Josie.
Speaker 3: You're listening to in the Vet's Office with Doctor Josie Horchak.
Speaker 4: How did this all come to be?
Speaker 5: So? I used to actually work a few buildings over
Speaker 5: on Music Row. I went to Belmont and that's what
Speaker 5: moved me to Nashville, and I had dreams of working
Speaker 5: in the music industry and doing marketing and PR and
Speaker 5: like graphic design and branding and stuff for bands, and
Speaker 5: so I got a job doing that at a small
Speaker 5: record label artist management company. And I got Doug when
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 4: A junior at Belmont.
Speaker 5: So I was in college in college, and so I
Speaker 5: was going to work on music row and then I
Speaker 5: would come home and I had my dream pug who
Speaker 5: loved getting dressed up and loved doing activities with me
Speaker 5: around town. And it became this kind of tradition where
Speaker 5: I would get home from work and go out around
Speaker 5: Nashville and take pics with him. This was in the
Speaker 5: very beginning of Instagram. I think this was twenty thirteen
Speaker 5: when I started posting him, and so I just did
Speaker 5: it for fun on my personal Instagram. I mean, no
Speaker 5: one even really had like my friends didn't even really
Speaker 5: have it. It was mostly Facebook at that time. And
Speaker 5: I would post him and say Doug the pug doing that,
Speaker 5: Doug and I blah blah blah, and people just wanted
Speaker 5: to see Doug. So if I posted anything on my
Speaker 5: personal Instagram that wasn't Doug, people were like, where's.
Speaker 4: Doug, like, we don't really care. They just wanted to
Speaker 4: see Doug.
Speaker 5: And so I started getting a little more creative and
Speaker 5: doing I started getting a little more creative and doing
Speaker 5: you know, things that were on trend, like holiday type things,
Speaker 5: or if a famous artist was coming into Nashville, I
Speaker 5: would like play off that and big Instagram pug accounts
Speaker 5: that had all these followers at the time. When they
Speaker 5: would take our photos and post them and tag us.
Speaker 4: They would get so many likes, and it.
Speaker 5: Was this rush of like, WHOA, that's so cool a
Speaker 5: photo that I took and a concept that I came
Speaker 5: up with, and the styling and everything, like people are
Speaker 5: resonating with this, they like it. And again this is
Speaker 5: very condensed, but I ended up switching my account from
Speaker 5: me to just Dug and putting more effort and time
Speaker 5: into it. And he reached one hundred thousand followers on Instagram,
Speaker 5: which was insane and huge and amazing at the time.
Speaker 4: And we had a.
Speaker 5: Little party and I was just honestly a very fun hobby.
Speaker 5: It got me, brought me a lot of joy, and
Speaker 5: it brought other people joy. And I would be lying
Speaker 5: if I didn't say that at that time, I saw
Speaker 5: it being something like what it is now. I had
Speaker 5: this gut feeling to pursue it, and so I actually
Speaker 5: when he hit one hundred thousand followers, I put in
Speaker 5: my notice to quit my job.
Speaker 4: Wow, and people thought I was crazy.
Speaker 5: I kind of lied to most people and said I'm
Speaker 5: starting my own graphic design business because I didn't want
Speaker 5: to be like So, I have this dog that has
Speaker 5: an Instagram and I think he would make a really
Speaker 5: cute stuffed animal. But it happened as soon as I
Speaker 5: put my notice in for that job. At that one
Speaker 5: hundred thousand party, we had a pug balloon left over,
Speaker 5: and Rob and I were just dating at the time,
Speaker 5: and he was on tour and so all by myself,
Speaker 5: I went to Dragon Park in Hillsborough Village, which was
Speaker 5: right by my old apartment, and I tied the pug
Speaker 5: balloon to Doug and again, he doesn't care about anything,
Speaker 5: so he was all about it. He was running around
Speaker 5: the park with this pug balloon attached to him. And
Speaker 5: I sent the footage to Rob and I said, can
Speaker 5: you put a cute song over this?
Speaker 4: Can you put like people?
Speaker 5: Let me tell you about my best friend, Like, let's
Speaker 5: make the pug balloon his best friend, and I posted
Speaker 5: it to Doug's Facebook, his Instagram, and then I made
Speaker 5: him a Twitter because I was like, what would a
Speaker 5: band need, Like if I were to help one of
Speaker 5: my artists at the label, what would they need? And
Speaker 5: so I put it on all these things and I
Speaker 5: had a logo for Doug and I took it very seriously.
Speaker 5: But that night I posted it, didn't think anything of it.
Speaker 5: I woke up and I looked on Facebook. He had
Speaker 5: three thousand likes at the time on Facebook, and the
Speaker 5: next day he had like fifteen thousand.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what happened? And I looked at the video
Speaker 4: and had twenty million views.
Speaker 6: Wow, and this is the one hundred k party where
Speaker 6: he's running around with a pug bull Yes, Like right
Speaker 6: after that party, I took a little video with a
Speaker 6: leftover balloon and I was like, whoa.
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, it.
Speaker 5: Was real okay, you know, And by the end of
Speaker 5: that week he had a million likes followers on Facebook.
Speaker 4: Doug was like, my mom just quit her job. I
Speaker 4: got to go to one. He was like, let's go.
Speaker 5: And so it was this crazy feeling of like I
Speaker 5: felt very ready for it, because I had already kind
Speaker 5: of set it up for success, but for it to
Speaker 5: actually happen and for me to have the free time
Speaker 5: to do it.
Speaker 4: So Rob luckily.
Speaker 5: Got home from tour right around then, and we just
Speaker 5: started making videos. I mean every day we were coming
Speaker 5: up with like, let's dress Dug up as Harry Potter
Speaker 5: and call him Harry Pugger or you know all these
Speaker 5: popular TV shows, The Walking Dead. I dressed him as
Speaker 5: a zombie and we were crazy people running around Radner
Speaker 5: Lake with our dog with a dressed as a zombie
Speaker 5: and like but we didn't care. It was just this
Speaker 5: very exhilarating time. And within a few months we had
Speaker 5: a book deal and later that year we were going
Speaker 5: on a book tour all over the world.
Speaker 4: We went to London. Did he hit his first million
Speaker 4: followers that year? Oh yeah?
Speaker 5: So he on Facebook went from three thousand to a
Speaker 5: million within like a few weeks.
Speaker 4: Okay, on Instagram.
Speaker 5: Instagram's a harder platform to grow, so I think it
Speaker 5: took a little longer. But honestly, justin Bieber posting he
Speaker 5: posted two pictures of Doug. They his label actually hit
Speaker 5: us up and was like, hey, remember the Justin Bieber
Speaker 5: era of like sorry and what do you mean?
Speaker 4: It was like the best era, but take me back?
Speaker 5: And he was like on the Calvin Klein ads, they
Speaker 5: asked Doug to be a part of a countdown for
Speaker 5: how many days until?
Speaker 4: What do you mean?
Speaker 7: Okay?
Speaker 5: And so I took pictures of Doug wearing Calvin kleins
Speaker 5: and that little sign that said eight days what do
Speaker 5: you mean? And Justin posted two of those photos and
Speaker 5: tagged Doug. We went up like one hundred thousand followers
Speaker 5: in a.
Speaker 4: Day, I bet, and it was.
Speaker 5: It's just still so crazy to even look back on
Speaker 5: that and to see what it is now, and just
Speaker 5: it's been the most amazing fun ride and Doug.
Speaker 4: Loves every second of it.
Speaker 6: One thing that you said that I just feel like
Speaker 6: sitting here and talking with you is I feel like
Speaker 6: there's Instagram influencers and TikTok where you're like, Okay, this
Speaker 6: is like their job, and you can kind of tell
Speaker 6: like it just seems so organic and you just enjoy
Speaker 6: I mean, obviously he's like your child, so you enjoy
Speaker 6: doing it. He loves to do it, and like that
Speaker 6: just really translates. I thank you on his page is
Speaker 6: why he's so successful.
Speaker 4: I really appreciate that.
Speaker 5: I feel like, obviously, social media has changed exponentially. We've
Speaker 5: been doing it full time for almost ten years, and
Speaker 5: it's changed so much, and I think every day I
Speaker 5: have to make the conscious choice and Rob as well
Speaker 5: to do it because we love it, right, because we
Speaker 5: would have a completely different approach to social media with
Speaker 5: Doug if we were doing it just for the followers
Speaker 5: and the clout at this point, yeah, and so it's
Speaker 5: honestly become so much more laid back and we're a
Speaker 5: lot happier because of it, because we're just sharing like literally.
Speaker 4: What we want to share doing anyway. Yeah, we feel
Speaker 4: like we.
Speaker 5: Have nothing else to prove at this point, right, and
Speaker 5: it's it's just like truly for fun and to like
Speaker 5: we still have so many big dreams obviously, but his
Speaker 5: happiness and our happiness is like most important of course.
Speaker 2: Why one word hunter girl?
Speaker 8: Why?
Speaker 1: I know and I've heard the story. You know you
Speaker 1: were the only or whatever the version is, you were
Speaker 1: the only in your class. You're a girl, But what
Speaker 1: as a stage name and one word like all that
Speaker 1: came together and you decided on it?
Speaker 9: When why just because That's what everybody called me growing up,
Speaker 9: and my last name's Walking Awski, eleven letters, pretty rough,
Speaker 9: but I feel like that just part of me, especially
Speaker 9: right now, and like, hey, hunter girl, like how are
Speaker 9: you doing? That's what my Paul would call me. And
Speaker 9: so whenever I come up on stage and I have
Speaker 9: the name that a lot of people call me when
Speaker 9: I was growing up, it kind of always just reminds
Speaker 9: me of home. That's how I feel when I think
Speaker 9: of it.
Speaker 2: Did I don't say anything to you about just going
Speaker 2: by one name? Weirdly? Were they like, are you sure
Speaker 2: you want to do this?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 9: Like I think somebody had like mentioned that. They're like,
Speaker 9: do you want to do Hunter Walking Awski? And I
Speaker 9: was like, I think I want to be I think
Speaker 9: I'm gonna be Hunter girl.
Speaker 8: One word And they're like, that's cool.
Speaker 9: People will remember it, and they were like, just go
Speaker 9: for it.
Speaker 1: People do remember. I remember going, oh, this girl's I
Speaker 1: got one name. I didn't even know what it was about.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is cool, Like that's how I
Speaker 1: was again. I was checking out the show I'd Adventures,
Speaker 1: but you you never know who they're going to keep
Speaker 1: on that show. I watched them edit people and like
Speaker 1: two people in but only to cut them out later,
Speaker 1: but they'd already been eliminated, like for for drama.
Speaker 2: So Hunter, though, is your name? I remember asking I
Speaker 2: know the answer, but I remember.
Speaker 1: Asking you this in the same way, like what do
Speaker 1: I call you?
Speaker 2: Your friends call you that.
Speaker 9: My friends call me hunter, like my like my Paul
Speaker 9: will still he still calls me hunter girl, just because
Speaker 9: that's what he always did. But my friends called me
Speaker 9: hunter and uh, but on stage, it's like I kind
Speaker 9: of get to separate myself a little bits, like the
Speaker 9: like hunters going home and enter PJS. But whenever I'm
Speaker 9: on stage, I get to be Hunter girl.
Speaker 1: What I would like for you to go back and
Speaker 1: talk about, just for a second, when you talk about
Speaker 1: writing with the veterans, which is how you and I
Speaker 1: ended up together that night we were doing some veterans stuff
Speaker 1: at the Opry together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, explain like what that is.
Speaker 9: So I started writing writing with veterans when I was
Speaker 9: about seventeen.
Speaker 2: And why why would you write with veterans?
Speaker 9: My grandfa, my grandpa's in the service, and six of
Speaker 9: my great uncles and I just got involved and I
Speaker 9: was just volunteering and singing songs for the people that
Speaker 9: were writing the songs with the veterans, and so it's
Speaker 9: always been something like meant a lot to me and
Speaker 9: just seeing how much it, like it affected my family too.
Speaker 9: And basically what we do is we get in a
Speaker 9: room with a veteran and we write their story about
Speaker 9: whatever they want to talk about, whether it's like something
Speaker 9: in the service or somebody they miss or anything. And
Speaker 9: it's kind of therapeutic in a way for them to
Speaker 9: get to tell their story. And honestly, like, whenever I've
Speaker 9: been in that room, it's like, you know, I'm lucky
Speaker 9: enough to write a song every day, but this is
Speaker 9: their first time that they get to feel that whatever.
Speaker 9: Like it just makes me remember just how like how
Speaker 9: good songwriting is for the soul. And I've written with
Speaker 9: gold Star kids and gold Star families and so I've
Speaker 9: been doing that consistently.
Speaker 2: Since I was about seventeen and still do it.
Speaker 9: I had one a few weeks ago.
Speaker 4: Really yeah, cast.
Speaker 10: Up Little Food for your Soul.
Speaker 1: Life.
Speaker 2: Oh it's pretty bad. It's pretty beautiful, BEFU.
Speaker 11: That's a little more family said, ek cut you're kicking
Speaker 11: with full thing with Amy Brown, We're.
Speaker 12: Just gonna have a little chat today. I am sitting
Speaker 12: on my bed next to my dog with my computer.
Speaker 12: I've been looking at emails. Tomorrow is my mom's birthday,
Speaker 12: or it would be her birthday if she was still alive.
Speaker 12: But I think I just got a little emotional as
Speaker 12: I was prepping for the episode because I thought, well,
Speaker 12: in honor of her birthday, maybe I should share one
Speaker 12: of my favorite things that she would make, which was
Speaker 12: cherry Berry's on a Cloud. And it's not a recipe
Speaker 12: she came up with. It's just something that she was
Speaker 12: known for making, like she was really good at making it.
Speaker 12: People would request it. I would request it her friends
Speaker 12: for showers or any type of event or gathering. People
Speaker 12: would be like, Judy, can you bring cherry Berry on
Speaker 12: a cloud? And she would and it's so good. And
Speaker 12: I just went into my email and I searched, you know,
Speaker 12: Judy Cherryberry, and things popped up, and it just took
Speaker 12: me down memory lane because there was this email that
Speaker 12: my sister had sent out. Because Ben and I were
Speaker 12: married for years in years in years, let me think
Speaker 12: you're almost seventeen. We lived in Austin, some we lived
Speaker 12: in North Carolina, and then we were back in Austin,
Speaker 12: and then we've been in Nashville the last almost twelve years.
Speaker 12: So when we were in North Carolina because Ben was
Speaker 12: in the Air Force, I guess we were going back
Speaker 12: to Austin for a visit, and my sister sent out
Speaker 12: this mass email to everybody and it was like the
Speaker 12: Browns are back in town, and she is the queen
Speaker 12: of hospitality, and she was inviting everybody over and saying, Hey,
Speaker 12: bring whatever you can, or just bring yourself, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 12: Judy's gonna make Cherryberry's on a cloud. We're gonna grill out,
Speaker 12: and everyone's going to have a good time. And I
Speaker 12: was looking at everybody on the email and even my
Speaker 12: sister's husband.
Speaker 4: And then Ben and.
Speaker 12: I aren't married anymore, but we're still close and our
Speaker 12: families are close. But all of those relationships came from
Speaker 12: my mom and her friendships that she made, and I
Speaker 12: was just thinking how special it was that we would
Speaker 12: all gather together. And I'm getting emotional because I miss that,
Speaker 12: I really do. But I'm about to be with my
Speaker 12: sister and her family for Christmas, and I know we're
Speaker 12: going to be gathering around the table We're going to
Speaker 12: be cooking and hanging out, and it's going to have
Speaker 12: that same vibe. It's just not exactly how I saw it.
Speaker 12: Although Ben will be in Colorado at the same time.
Speaker 12: ISH we kind of overlap, so the kids will be
Speaker 12: with me some and then they'll go be with him,
Speaker 12: and I wonder if we'll all get together. I could
Speaker 12: see him coming over because he's friends with them, and
Speaker 12: I have gratitude right now for that. I have gratitude
Speaker 12: for these memories of gathering and keeping it simple, just
Speaker 12: inviting people over, and my sister's like, don't worry about anything,
Speaker 12: bring your kids. Everyone will pitch in and help. I've
Speaker 12: got cribs if you've got babies, and they just we're
Speaker 12: all about hosting and community. Like when we were living
Speaker 12: in Austin. I just remember that so much, my mom cooking,
Speaker 12: my dad cooking, my sister cooking. And it looks a
Speaker 12: little different now that my mom and my dad are
Speaker 12: gone and Ben and I are divorced. My sister is
Speaker 12: still really, really, really good at that and inviting people
Speaker 12: over and having extra chairs for people to pull up
Speaker 12: around the table. And I guess my point here really
Speaker 12: is I'm going to link the or copy and paste
Speaker 12: the cherryberries on a cloud recipe and the show notes,
Speaker 12: because if you have to go anywhere this holiday season,
Speaker 12: take this.
Speaker 4: It will be a hit.
Speaker 12: It is so good. And if you ever just have
Speaker 12: some time and you want to reminisce, type in keywords
Speaker 12: into your email. I mean, I was going all the
Speaker 12: way back to I think it was two thousand and
Speaker 12: ten or twenty eleven that I saw that email that
Speaker 12: my sister sent out to everybody, and I copied and
Speaker 12: pasted that and I sent it over to my sister
Speaker 12: so that she could reminisce. But then I had to
Speaker 12: go find the actual recipe, So then I had to
Speaker 12: google or search inside my Gmail my mom's name and
Speaker 12: the cherryberry recipe and it popped up. So I copied
Speaker 12: that and I'm going to drop it in the show notes.
Speaker 12: But then I started looking at emails from my mom,
Speaker 12: and that's probably what got me emotional, alongside the fact
Speaker 12: that it's her birthday tomorrow and she's not here, but
Speaker 12: I had sent her this email of this little garden
Speaker 12: I was growing because I wanted to make fresh salsa,
Speaker 12: and I took a video and I emailed it to
Speaker 12: her and she said, she said back, let me tell
Speaker 12: you what she said here cute. She goes, what's really
Speaker 12: in that planter? I said, cayenne, tomato and cilantro. You
Speaker 12: don't believe me, And she said, amy, tomatoes get huge.
Speaker 12: Are you starting your garden with seeds?
Speaker 4: You don't have to.
Speaker 12: You can buy tomato plants and that will be much faster.
Speaker 12: And I said, mom, I started with seeds. I will
Speaker 12: transplant them to separate pots when they get three inches tall.
Speaker 12: It's a salsa garden. Did you watch my video? I'm
Speaker 12: not scared. I'm being patient. When it's time, I'll get
Speaker 12: to make salsa. For Ben's smiley face. I said, my
Speaker 12: first sprouts came in today. I just noticed about twenty
Speaker 12: minutes ago, and I got so excited.
Speaker 4: And I don't even know that version of me.
Speaker 12: That decided to make a little salsa garden from seeds.
Speaker 8: We're gonna do it live. We ah the one shoot
Speaker 8: three sore losers?
Speaker 13: What up, everybody? I am lunchbox.
Speaker 10: I know the most about sports, so I'll give you
Speaker 10: the sports facts, my sports opinions, because I'm pretty much
Speaker 10: a sports genius, y'all.
Speaker 8: It's Sison I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male.
Speaker 8: I live on the north side of Nashville with Bayser,
Speaker 8: my wife. We do have a farm. It's beautiful, a
Speaker 8: lot of acreage, no animals, a lot of crops. Hopefully
Speaker 8: soon corn pumpkins, rye. I believe maybe a little fescue
Speaker 8: to be determined.
Speaker 10: Over to you, coach, And here's a clip from this
Speaker 10: week's episode of The Sore Losers.
Speaker 13: Right, tell me, how'd that Christmas party go?
Speaker 14: Man?
Speaker 8: You missed out. I told you it was networking.
Speaker 10: I know I was gonna go. Then the wife informed
Speaker 10: me we had Christmas caroling with the neighborhood and we
Speaker 10: were getting together with other families and we were gonna
Speaker 10: go Christmas caroling.
Speaker 8: Sometimes you realize I just got a network for the
Speaker 8: good of the Sore Losers. And I realized that. Baser
Speaker 8: even said before I went, I can't believe you're going
Speaker 8: to this because it was an hour and a half
Speaker 8: drive from where I live.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's at a higher up's house, which is weird.
Speaker 10: It's not easy to get to and they do it
Speaker 10: at five o'clock, and I don't know if they understand
Speaker 10: what five o'clock means.
Speaker 13: It means grid lock traffic.
Speaker 10: So if you want to get there right at five o'clock,
Speaker 10: you got to leave at three o'clock. If you don't leave,
Speaker 10: if you leave any later than three, it's gonna take
Speaker 10: you an hour and a half proceed.
Speaker 8: And I get there, and when I say networking, it
Speaker 8: was me, the two big bosses, and Robin from Media Base.
Speaker 13: Robin still works here.
Speaker 8: Yeah, show's great too.
Speaker 13: Excuse me, m h. I had no idea.
Speaker 8: Stuff she does outside of here that you just don't
Speaker 8: see her doing. I guess she deals with songs, artists,
Speaker 8: media base ratings, rankings, songs, climbing charts, getting credit for
Speaker 8: playing live performances, et cetera.
Speaker 10: I mean that means she works from home, because I
Speaker 10: mean she has not been around in eight years.
Speaker 8: Correct, FTW, that's awesome. From the home. Fth from the home. Okay,
Speaker 8: And that's it, dude, it's I said in Indian Circle
Speaker 8: having a pow wow. That is how you promote the
Speaker 8: sore losers. And I mean it's just when it's just
Speaker 8: you and the brass in the kitchen, dude, you have
Speaker 8: no choice.
Speaker 13: So it was just four people, yes.
Speaker 8: Because I got there so early. It was my fault.
Speaker 8: It was nothing on the party. It was what times
Speaker 8: you get there, right at five and I get and
Speaker 8: it's one of those where they were on the couches,
Speaker 8: and so I didn't really want to I pulled up.
Speaker 8: I just pulled up a chair, dude.
Speaker 13: You didn't want to sell on the couch in between
Speaker 13: two of them.
Speaker 8: I just pulled up a chair. Dude. Hey, if we're
Speaker 8: going to network, let's network, baby. I told Beazer before
Speaker 8: I left the country, I said, going to network. I
Speaker 8: kind of like I was going to war. I was like,
Speaker 8: I'll be back after my tour. I'll see in a
Speaker 8: couple hours. But yeah, that was the start of it.
Speaker 8: They weren't in the kitchen, dude, and it caught me
Speaker 8: off surprise, or I didn't even mention the parking situation. So,
Speaker 8: because it's a city and it's a very very expensive
Speaker 8: place to live, they don't have the biggest driveways.
Speaker 13: And the driveway is right on a busy road.
Speaker 8: Truck ain't fitting in that driveway. So you park in
Speaker 8: the neighborhood over for not a quarter eighth of a mile,
Speaker 8: for half of a football field, you're literally walking on
Speaker 8: the road.
Speaker 10: Yeah, bro, And there's no street lights.
Speaker 8: I'm running on the road because I didn't want to
Speaker 8: walk in the grass. Well, then a car starts coming,
Speaker 8: so I go into the grass and it looks like
Speaker 8: other cars have gone into the grass as well, and
Speaker 8: it might be muddy, so there were probably mud on
Speaker 8: my shoes. I walk into the party and there's nothing
Speaker 8: but white carpet. Ugh, So what do you think I
Speaker 8: did because it'd.
Speaker 13: Been raining, Yeah, took a shoe off.
Speaker 8: So I looked at the party host, the brass they
Speaker 8: all had their shoes on. I just couldn't risk walking
Speaker 8: on that carpet and making shoeprints when I'm trying to
Speaker 8: network for the sore losers and I'm just dirtying up
Speaker 8: the place. I took off my shoes. Why was that
Speaker 8: a mistake? Bro? Every time I tried to network and
Speaker 8: conversate with somebody, I was a foot shorter than everybody
Speaker 8: because everybody wore their shoes except for me. That leads
Speaker 8: me to my next story. Dude comes walking in, looks
Speaker 8: like he's from Chicago. New York got a big bar
Speaker 8: fig time city. Everybody was dressed up and looked good.
Speaker 13: But did he have a scarf?
Speaker 8: No? Yeah, just a long black jacket, butt up, good shoes,
Speaker 8: good jeans.
Speaker 13: What looked like what was his hair?
Speaker 8: He looked he looked like falcon. Oh and but but
Speaker 8: you knew he was important and I had already. Dude,
Speaker 8: I talked to every brass there there was. There was
Speaker 8: no more brass left.
Speaker 13: So he's a baldy.
Speaker 8: Huh. I didn't even talk to Abbie.
Speaker 13: I don't even know who the baldy. I don't know
Speaker 13: who this guy is.
Speaker 8: There's people this company don't even know there was a
Speaker 8: brunuit chick. I go Morgan, who's at Oh she works
Speaker 8: for a premiere. No, I never seen her. Who is
Speaker 8: that blondie? How do you even know her? Why are
Speaker 8: you guys so friendly? Oh, she's great, she was at
Speaker 8: the last Christmas party. I don't know. I'm literally never
Speaker 8: seen her. And we work in the same building.
Speaker 13: Got it.
Speaker 8: And so then this dude comes in. He looks important.
Speaker 8: I've talked to everybody, Abbey, I see every dam damn
Speaker 8: IM not talking about?
Speaker 10: So what did you talk about with the brass when
Speaker 10: you're sitting in that little circle the pow wow?
Speaker 8: It's did you do your high low for the day,
Speaker 8: or your rose or your thorn. Now I was trying
Speaker 8: to think that's what it was. It was she's from
Speaker 8: Kentucky and she goes, oh, yeah, I hope the Valls
Speaker 8: win on Saturday. Because the one lady not to get
Speaker 8: too much in the weeds. The one lady just got
Speaker 8: a divorced and her husband ex husband was a huge
Speaker 8: fan of the Boles. And so I was being funny
Speaker 8: and I was like, hey, screw the balls, let's root
Speaker 8: against the balls this Saturday, being on her side, just
Speaker 8: being funny. I'm Avalls fan. And then the brass jumps
Speaker 8: in and goes.
Speaker 13: Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 8: Actually I want the Falls. Let's go. We want Tennessee.
Speaker 8: And I go, aren't you from Kentucky? And then she goes,
Speaker 8: I just go for the game. But she goes, I'm
Speaker 8: more of a basketball girl, and she said I love
Speaker 8: the pre games. And then we talked about Rup and
Speaker 8: I said I was out rupping, Oh the Steak the
Speaker 8: area of Rop, And I was like, have you ever
Speaker 8: been there? She goes, Honey, I ever been there. I've
Speaker 8: been there a hundred times. And I said, I want
Speaker 8: to go for a game. You know what, maybe you
Speaker 8: and me go for a game sometime that's called networking, baby, honey,
Speaker 8: that's called networking. So that was just one of the
Speaker 8: things that we talked about.
Speaker 13: And you said me and you should go to a
Speaker 13: game sometime. What did she say?
Speaker 8: It was all just laughing joke. Here's a Christmas party?
Speaker 8: Am I in the brass? Gonna go driving Kentucky and
Speaker 8: go to Rupprena sometime maybe?
Speaker 13: But anyways, I've heard rough so old and that needs improven.
Speaker 8: Dude. They looked good. But I moved to the kitchen
Speaker 8: and here comes another brass. There's so many brass around, dude.
Speaker 13: Hey, which one got divorced?
Speaker 15: Robin?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 8: Oh, but I knew that already. Oh but it would
Speaker 8: have been bad if I got caught off Guarden. I
Speaker 8: didn't get a heads up about that. Then the dude
Speaker 8: walks in and I go right up to I'm not
Speaker 8: I chill in the glassroom with Abby. I'm not trying
Speaker 8: to be like, hey, Abby, how's it going. I've talked
Speaker 8: to Abby about everything. I'm good. So she Abby's like
Speaker 8: call me over. I'm like, ha ha, I totally dissed her.
Speaker 13: Abby. I see you every day at work.
Speaker 8: I'm going to network with this dude. I go Hey,
Speaker 8: how's it going. He goes, hey, you right, yeah, how
Speaker 8: are you? What's your name? He goes Bob, and he goes,
Speaker 8: he were sore losers, right? What dude? I just about
Speaker 8: fell out. Not only did he know my name, he
Speaker 8: knew about sore losers.
Speaker 13: Tell me more about it.
Speaker 8: So Bob runs everything the volume. Colin cow or Dan Patrick,
Speaker 8: if they go somewhere to Fountain Blue, he runs it.
Speaker 8: If they're at the pool, he runs it. He's all
Speaker 8: over the country. They'll go to events, six hundred people
Speaker 8: pop up, boom, he goes. Sometimes the crowds are wild.
Speaker 8: For Steven A. Smith, he runs it. Draymond Green runs it.
Speaker 8: The volume has Jeff Tigue and the some of oh yeah.
Speaker 13: Yeah, that Jeff guy. He's pretty funny.
Speaker 8: Runs it. He's always there, advice, ads, marketing. Who's the
Speaker 8: other show? He said, Draymond getting on a mic. Right,
Speaker 8: I forgets the technical It's amazing, he said. That shows
Speaker 8: that volume blowing up. He goes, you guys are blowing up.
Speaker 8: Great talk with him?
Speaker 13: What all did he say?
Speaker 8: Everything? He was just talking And I said, I used
Speaker 8: to listen to Colin Cowhard. That must be so cool.
Speaker 8: He does it. Sounded more with the sports shows, and
Speaker 8: I was trying to think of the one other one
Speaker 8: that is huge. Oh, Ocho Cinco is on a show
Speaker 8: with you guys are yelling at your trucks right now.
Speaker 8: Ocho Cinco has a show with Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 13: Yeah. I think you're right that one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And he said, blowing up, dude. The fact sore
Speaker 8: Losers was mentioned in the same sentence as Ocho Cinco,
Speaker 8: Draymond Green, Shannon Sharp, Colin Cowherd, and Dan Patrick blowing up.
Speaker 13: What else did Bob say about sore Losers.
Speaker 8: Uh, not not much, but the fact that he knew
Speaker 8: the show and then put us in the category of
Speaker 8: sports and he said, blowing up.
Speaker 16: Seles Man, are you ready, Hillary, I'm excited.
Speaker 14: I'm excited to get a talk with you on a microphone.
Speaker 16: Not that I haven't talked to you in a long time.
Speaker 14: But this is our first official talk on a microphone
Speaker 14: since you left the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been almost three years. I was thinking about
Speaker 3: that today. I was like, this is the first I've
Speaker 3: been behind a microphone and almost three years, and the
Speaker 3: last time I was was probably the last best bits.
Speaker 14: But you had mentioned how Tyler is your first boyfriend
Speaker 14: and now like potentially going to be your fiance. But
Speaker 14: what's that been like for you? He's your first boyfriend
Speaker 14: and you weren't dating before that. Is there like any
Speaker 14: part of you that thinks about that and that kind
Speaker 14: of situation?
Speaker 16: Yes, I yes, I have thought about it.
Speaker 3: First of all, when I was never you know, part
Speaker 3: of the reasons I haven't dated was I feel like
Speaker 3: if I liked a guy, they wouldn't like me back.
Speaker 16: So it wasn't like a choice. Part of it was,
Speaker 16: but part of it wasn't. It was just people just
Speaker 16: didn't like me. So I always saw something was wrong
Speaker 16: with me. Okay, I liked you, well, you know what
Speaker 16: I mean.
Speaker 14: There were I'm ninety nine point nine percent sure, even
Speaker 14: though I have only known you my adult life, that
Speaker 14: there were people that liked you. You just probably didn't feel
Speaker 14: that back, so.
Speaker 16: They never pursued it or they didn't tell me. Yeah
Speaker 16: that's possible too. Yeah, Yeah, you maybe beautiful, So I
Speaker 16: can guarantee that there were people that liked you. Yeah,
Speaker 16: maybe they just didn't tell me.
Speaker 3: Okay, So maybe there have been missed opportunities, which is
Speaker 3: fine because I'm happy where I'm at. Yeah, but yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I've always felt like, Okay, something's wrong with me. If
Speaker 3: I'm not nobody likes me, nobody wants to be in
Speaker 3: a relationship with me. Something's wrong with me. And I'd
Speaker 3: have strangers on the internet telling me something is wrong
Speaker 3: with me too, So that didn't help. Yeah, they definitely
Speaker 3: let me know. They're like, something's wrong with you, Like,
Speaker 3: are you, you know, normal?
Speaker 16: I was like, no, I'm fine, You're perfectly normal. Yeah,
Speaker 16: I'm just not finding someone. Timeline was just different.
Speaker 3: My timeline was different, and it was definitely worth the
Speaker 3: way of waiting for waiting to find him. Like he is,
Speaker 3: like you said, just to a gem of a human.
Speaker 16: Yeah, he's precious.
Speaker 14: Well do you feel like, do you still have those
Speaker 14: feelings now or did once you met him? Did that
Speaker 14: all kind of quiet itself?
Speaker 16: It did? It quieted itself?
Speaker 3: I mean I I you know me, I struggle with
Speaker 3: self confidence issues and things like that, so that stuff
Speaker 3: has remained. But the whole it was like it was different.
Speaker 3: It was I do feel like I'm worthy enough and
Speaker 3: you know, good enough for someone, and so I feel
Speaker 3: very secure in that. But within myself, I definitely still
Speaker 3: have you know, the doubts and.
Speaker 16: Self confidence issues, all those things.
Speaker 14: You want to talk about that a little bit, because
Speaker 14: mental health is part of this podcast, yes, and we
Speaker 14: talk about.
Speaker 16: Those things a lot.
Speaker 14: So where do you feel like you're at kind of
Speaker 14: right now in your life with your I guess you
Speaker 14: can say self love journey. Do you feel like you're
Speaker 14: on a better path or do you feel like you're
Speaker 14: kind of stagnant?
Speaker 16: Where are you right now?
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm in a good place now. I
Speaker 3: think a couple a couple of years ago, i'd had
Speaker 3: a not I was not in the best place, which
Speaker 3: was right around the time. It was right before I
Speaker 3: started dating Tyler. But I'll never forget. We were at
Speaker 3: a dinner. I know exactly. I know you're gonna remember
Speaker 3: what it was. It was a Valentine's Day. It was
Speaker 3: Valentine's Day dinner. And at the point at that time,
Speaker 3: I was still single and I just turned thirty, and.
Speaker 16: I just was having so many self doubt issues.
Speaker 3: And I've dealt with that my entire life, Like, honestly,
Speaker 3: ever since I was in elementary school, I've dealt with
Speaker 3: self confidence issues and didn't know it at the time.
Speaker 3: As I've gotten older, I've learned a lot about anxiety
Speaker 3: and things like that, and I know that's you know,
Speaker 3: what I was dealing with. But yeah, a couple of
Speaker 3: years ago, I remember I was just in not a
Speaker 3: great place. I didn't like myself. I've always struggled with
Speaker 3: weight and you know how I view myself body my
Speaker 3: body issues, Yeah, body image issues. It's a great way
Speaker 3: put that. So at that time, I was really dealing
Speaker 3: with a lot of those issues. And I've definitely always
Speaker 3: struggled with body image issues and that's all always probably
Speaker 3: been one of my main things that I've struggled when
Speaker 3: it comes to myself and self confidence issues. And yeah,
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, I just I was dealing
Speaker 3: with with those things. And I feel like I can
Speaker 3: talk about like I feel like it's kind of probably
Speaker 3: like trigger warning type of stuff for some people, but
Speaker 3: I definitely do feel like I had like eating disorder
Speaker 3: type stuff. I mean I would there were times that
Speaker 3: I would make myself throw up or I wouldn't eat,
Speaker 3: like I would starve myself.
Speaker 16: And I kind of had dealt with.
Speaker 3: That a little bit in you know, my early twenties,
Speaker 3: and I was doing fine and then for some reason
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, I just was having some
Speaker 3: issues and just not loving myself. I was turning thirty
Speaker 3: and I was not at all where I thought i'd
Speaker 3: be in my life. And I think that had a
Speaker 3: lot to do with it. Was turning thirty and realizing
Speaker 3: I'm not married, i don't own a house, i don't
Speaker 3: have kids, I'm not at all where I thought I
Speaker 3: would be in life. And I was also making career changes,
Speaker 3: so everything all at once, Everything was changing at once,
Speaker 3: and I was not feeling good about myself. And so
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, yeah, I just was not
Speaker 3: and I was in a very dark place and just
Speaker 3: not feeling good about myself. And we were out that
Speaker 3: dinner and I don't remember what was said, something said
Speaker 3: and I just started bawling my eyes out at the dinner,
Speaker 3: and we got up and went into your jeep, and
Speaker 3: you and Jodie were there, and y'all said, we're not
Speaker 3: leaving until you tell us what's going on. And I
Speaker 3: remember I was just crying so hard I couldn't barely speak,
Speaker 3: and I was just so embarrassed because I'd never I
Speaker 3: do need to say, I'd never really admitted to anybody
Speaker 3: that I did all of that stuff, and because I
Speaker 3: was embarrassed and nobody knew that that had ever happened,
Speaker 3: that I was doing, you know, making myself sick, not
Speaker 3: eating things like that, nobody knew, and I finally was
Speaker 3: able to open up to y'all about that. And I
Speaker 3: will never forget that night of just sitting there for
Speaker 3: even know how long, just crying and just I don't
Speaker 3: think many words were said. It was just y'all being
Speaker 3: there and being able to cry to y'all and admit,
Speaker 3: this is what's going on in my life. And I
Speaker 3: have these bad habits again like I had them before
Speaker 3: and I got past it, but it's happening again, and
Speaker 3: I feel alone and I feel stuck, and I feel
Speaker 3: like what do I do? So I remember being able
Speaker 3: to talk to y'all about that that night.
Speaker 17: Hey, it's Mike d And this week All Movie Mike's
Speaker 17: Movie podcast, I shared my top ten underrated.
Speaker 16: Movies of the year.
Speaker 17: And these are a lot of movies that aren't sequels,
Speaker 17: aren't remakes, aren't superhero movies. So if you're somebody who says, man,
Speaker 17: everything's a remaked these days, I have ten movies that
Speaker 17: maybe you missed in theaters. I think they are underappreciated.
Speaker 17: More people should have seen these, they should have performed
Speaker 17: better at the box office, because I think they're all
Speaker 17: good movies that you can watch at home. Now, So
Speaker 17: here's what I had as my number one pick, but
Speaker 17: be sure to go check out this full episode to
Speaker 17: hear the entire list. Right now, here's just a little
Speaker 17: bit of movie Mike's Movie podcast. At number one, my
Speaker 17: most underrated movie of twenty twenty four, I have My
Speaker 17: Old Ass So Good, which I gave a four at
Speaker 17: a five. It has a pretty decent audience score, like
Speaker 17: a great eighty nine percent. But I think this one
Speaker 17: comes down to the box office. Had a budget of
Speaker 17: three million dollars, which is wild that they made this
Speaker 17: movie for three million dollars, but it only made five
Speaker 17: million dollars.
Speaker 4: That's two million dollars.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 15: Though it sputtering bean in the red.
Speaker 17: I just think that it is hard to make a
Speaker 17: fresh coming of age movie at this point. And I
Speaker 17: love the formula. I could watch the same coming of
Speaker 17: age formula in any amount of movies and I would
Speaker 17: still enjoy There's just something special about it when done right.
Speaker 17: And this one the twist was that she takes some mushrooms,
Speaker 17: she sees her older self, which is Aubrey Plaza. She
Speaker 17: tells her all this stuff about her future and kind
Speaker 17: of gives her advice on what to avoid, and then
Speaker 17: puts her phone, no in her phone, and she's able
Speaker 17: to communicate with her. My only thing was I wanted
Speaker 17: more Aubrey Plaza, But.
Speaker 15: It was cool to see Aubrey Plaza on more like
Speaker 15: I mean, she was still her like dry, comedic self,
Speaker 15: but a little bit more.
Speaker 8: Of an emotional Yeah.
Speaker 17: Well, there was a scene in this movie where I
Speaker 17: damn near cried.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think you did.
Speaker 17: Like I think it was there was a span of
Speaker 17: movies there. I think this one in the Wild Robot.
Speaker 17: We watched back to back, I believe, and both times
Speaker 17: the movies like I almost cried.
Speaker 2: I look over and.
Speaker 17: I did not expect to go there because there's just
Speaker 17: a moment where it's like, oh, man, all this stuff
Speaker 17: that had been building up and building up. Yeah, there's
Speaker 17: a lot of fights between her younger self and her
Speaker 17: older self, which I would question things that I would
Speaker 17: be telling my younger self, and there's a moment that
Speaker 17: just hits you right in the gut and then it
Speaker 17: just like, oh man, I just kind of sat with it.
Speaker 15: What's the number one thing that you would tell your
Speaker 15: younger self? Sitting here now as a thirty three year old,
Speaker 15: I always have to remember, hold you are.
Speaker 17: It's very difficul I don't know how cliche this is,
Speaker 17: but like, stop caring what people think. I think that
Speaker 17: kept me from doing a lot of things that I
Speaker 17: enjoyed younger because I was worried about how they would
Speaker 17: be perceived by other people. And at that time, I
Speaker 17: didn't realize that those other people would not matter when
Speaker 17: I was older. Like look at this room now, Like
Speaker 17: all these things that I embraced now were things that
Speaker 17: I hid back then. And I think all the things
Speaker 17: about me now that I enjoy actually about myself I
Speaker 17: was ashamed of probably fifteen years ago. And it's hard
Speaker 17: to say to imagine me like being cool, but I
Speaker 17: had a feeling of like I need to be cool
Speaker 17: because I was so one cool that I didn't want
Speaker 17: to come across of like putting anything against me because
Speaker 17: there was already a lot of things held against me.
Speaker 17: I felt like like I was overweight, I had bad skin,
Speaker 17: my teeth are messed up. There were just things I
Speaker 17: felt that kept me from being cool, and I was like,
Speaker 17: I just can't show any other weakness. I think that's
Speaker 17: what it would be it for me. I would just
Speaker 17: not care about what anybody else thought. And just like
Speaker 17: the things I like, would you tell yourself?
Speaker 15: Mine's also cliche, and mine would be to like stop
Speaker 15: worrying about the boys that didn't like me. Like I
Speaker 15: just was like, no one's ever gonna like me. I'm
Speaker 15: gonna be single forever. I felt that too, and I
Speaker 15: was so young. But I think I think when you're
Speaker 15: in high school and it's like you have those couples
Speaker 15: and like ever I never had a boyfriend. You were
Speaker 15: my first boyfriend.
Speaker 8: I damn you went my first girlfriend dates.
Speaker 15: Like I liked people, I talk to people, but like
Speaker 15: no one ever really fully liked me. And I just
Speaker 15: used to think, like I'm ugly, no one's gonna like me.
Speaker 15: And I'm just say in retrospect, I think I was
Speaker 15: just like too smart. I think I intimidated people like
Speaker 15: not to toot my own horn, but I think I
Speaker 15: just was like unapproachable because I was really smart.
Speaker 2: I've oddly been thinking about this lately.
Speaker 8: Is.
Speaker 17: I always felt that it was people not giving me
Speaker 17: a chance. And when I look back on myself there,
Speaker 17: I think I just didn't respect myself enough, Like I
Speaker 17: didn't put enough effort into myself to attract anybody. I
Speaker 17: thought it was all about looks, but I think it
Speaker 17: was how I treated myself and probably the energy I
Speaker 17: put out that was really what it was. And I
Speaker 17: just thought it was, like I said, just people not
Speaker 17: give me a chance. But I thought about like would
Speaker 17: I even want to be with me then? So maybe
Speaker 17: that's the advice I would give to myself, like, hey,
Speaker 17: working yourself a little more, dummy.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think I would tell myself to stop stressing.
Speaker 15: Because I met you when I was twenty four. That's
Speaker 15: that is still so young when in retrospect, I met
Speaker 15: you when I was twenty four, I'm married to twenty seven.
Speaker 15: Like I don't know. I think I just was like,
Speaker 15: oh my god, I'm going to be alone forever. But
Speaker 15: like those things feel so big when you're younger. Yeah,
Speaker 15: they feel so monumental.
Speaker 17: When you're younger, you want to get older. When you're older,
Speaker 17: you want to be younger. I think if I was
Speaker 17: more specific about my advice I think it would be
Speaker 17: that you're on your own timeline. Yeah, like nobody else
Speaker 17: is really looking at your timeline, even though to you
Speaker 17: it feels like, ah, I'm so behind. How am I
Speaker 17: not at this point in my life yet? When really
Speaker 17: nobody else cares about what's going on with you And
Speaker 17: in the end, it doesn't really matter, like what age
Speaker 17: you are when you hit these supposed milestones that you're
Speaker 17: supposed to hit.
Speaker 15: I think I would also I would warn myself not
Speaker 15: to like several of the guys that I liked. I
Speaker 15: think I would be like, don't waste your time, don't
Speaker 15: just don't delete his number.
Speaker 17: Even more specific advice, I would have told myself to
Speaker 17: like to get into coding more like pay attention to
Speaker 17: technology more.
Speaker 15: I would have told myself to purchase real estate at
Speaker 15: the age of like five.
Speaker 17: I'd invested in like TikTok or something.
Speaker 8: I would have invested in bitcoin exactly.
Speaker 17: I'd have bought it when it was so cheap. It'd
Speaker 17: be millionaires now as I tell you.
Speaker 15: I would have bought stock and Apple.
Speaker 2: Would it have been as value?
Speaker 17: I guess back then, I feel like the time would
Speaker 17: have to buy it would have been like the eighties.
Speaker 17: Whenever they were first launching, it was like dirty. I
Speaker 17: don't know if they were public by that point.
Speaker 15: It's not according to what one of the characters in
Speaker 15: the Nexolas Sparks book.
Speaker 17: Did, But all right, that is the list.
Speaker 15: Cary Lone, she's a queen and talking and you saw them.
Speaker 15: You know, she's getting really not afraid to feel its episode, so.
Speaker 13: Just let it flow.
Speaker 17: No one can do we quiet cary Lone is kind
Speaker 17: of care Lone.
Speaker 7: I'm sad I was not someone who grew up watching
Speaker 7: One Tree Hill, and now I feel like I need
Speaker 7: to go back and binge that because after like reading
Speaker 7: your book and then deep diving you and then I
Speaker 7: deep dived One Tree Hill, and that show is like,
Speaker 7: that's like an amazing That show like shaped our generation.
Speaker 7: Like I'm forty one, and I feel like, I don't
Speaker 7: know how I missed watching it, probably because I didn't
Speaker 7: watch a whole bunch of TV growing up, but.
Speaker 18: That was like pretty much I know, I know, right,
Speaker 18: that was like the show that shaped our like our minds.
Speaker 18: I feel like I feel like that.
Speaker 7: And Friday Night Lights it's like One Tree Hi Lights
Speaker 7: were the ones.
Speaker 19: Right, that was a big one too. Yeah, the others
Speaker 19: felt like they were as much as we loved Gossip
Speaker 19: Girl in the OC, they were very they lived in
Speaker 19: that Beverly Hills nine O, two and O zone of
Speaker 19: it's such a rare population of America who live like that.
Speaker 19: But the kids that live like us kids in One
Speaker 19: Tree Hill and the kids that lived like the Friday
Speaker 19: Night Light kids are vastly more. Sorry my sentences aren't
Speaker 19: working today. They'll come together eventually, but there's so many
Speaker 19: more of a population that lives like that and things
Speaker 19: like that and experiences life just in a small town
Speaker 19: like that. So I feel like we really kind of
Speaker 19: cornered the market on just reflecting back to teens in
Speaker 19: America what their life was and they felt seen. And
Speaker 19: you should go back and watch it.
Speaker 18: You definitely should.
Speaker 2: It be fun.
Speaker 18: I need to binge it. I love a good show.
Speaker 7: I have a five year old daughter and all I
Speaker 7: watch is like Disney, and now she's into watching YouTube,
Speaker 7: like YouTube kids and all these families just make their
Speaker 7: own YouTube videos and I'm like, oh my god, I
Speaker 7: literally it's torture to watch it, but it's I need
Speaker 7: to watch like real, real content, and that's our shows
Speaker 7: were great. You know, that's when the storylines were good.
Speaker 7: They lasted a long time.
Speaker 18: It's just, man, what a life you've lived, Bethanie.
Speaker 7: Okay, So now that I'm like diving into your book,
Speaker 7: I literally you're such a good storyteller.
Speaker 18: First off, becauk you, I am so in the story
Speaker 18: with you.
Speaker 7: When I am reading this, I feel like I feel
Speaker 7: like I'm like in your actual brain walking starting from
Speaker 7: your childhood with your parents.
Speaker 18: Like it's just it makes so much sense, like it's
Speaker 18: you always wonder.
Speaker 7: I'm from Waco, Texas, and we had David Crash in
Speaker 7: the branch Davidians.
Speaker 18: We actually, oh boy, yes, that's right, of course you did.
Speaker 8: You had a.
Speaker 18: Cult in our in our town. And there's been like.
Speaker 7: Lots of other little pop up cults that lots of
Speaker 7: families join and they're integrated into the city. But it's
Speaker 7: definitely always been like cults. So there's a lot of
Speaker 7: culty vibes in Wacos. So I've always grown up with
Speaker 7: interesting Yeah, I've always grown up like with a big
Speaker 7: understanding of cults.
Speaker 18: But like I always wondered, how does this happen? Like
Speaker 18: how does so unusual?
Speaker 19: But maybe it's not unusual. I haven't. I'm not a researcher,
Speaker 19: but it seems strange to me that in a town
Speaker 19: like Waco, where it's known for being the center of
Speaker 19: this massive cult event, that others would pop up, so
Speaker 19: many others would still pop up in that region that
Speaker 19: like people didn't quite learn the lesson.
Speaker 18: I guess it's that is wild. It is wild, And
Speaker 18: there's some other I don't know if they're called cults.
Speaker 18: What do you call them?
Speaker 7: A focus group or like a what does the other
Speaker 7: word you use for that?
Speaker 18: It's not cult, but it's like a control group.
Speaker 19: Yeah, high demand, high demand group great, which that is
Speaker 19: what a cult is. It's it's the definitions are interchangeable.
Speaker 18: High demand group think.
Speaker 7: I love the group think because I actually was talking
Speaker 7: to my friend. We're in Georgia and I we're saying
Speaker 7: with some friends, and we were talking about just faith
Speaker 7: and how people can have all sorts of.
Speaker 18: Rules with it.
Speaker 7: Like, so I have some friends right now who I
Speaker 7: consider really great friends who are like not practicing yoga
Speaker 7: because they feel like that is sacrilegious. Then I'm like,
Speaker 7: and you can probably find all of these spiritual practices
Speaker 7: to back it. But at the same time, like I
Speaker 7: personally have had so many spiritual experiences that I have
Speaker 7: had myself that it's like, I know, I have to
Speaker 7: trust my own intuition and not other people's advice. What
Speaker 7: might be good for someone, or what might someone might
Speaker 7: feel like is their path, that does not mean it
Speaker 7: is my spiritual path.
Speaker 18: And I love that.
Speaker 7: I feel like that's sort of the point that I'm
Speaker 7: getting from your book is yes, someone can have a
Speaker 7: spiritual idea and that can truly be their road, But like,
Speaker 7: if it does not align with you, and if it
Speaker 7: is not your internal guidance system, like really you need
Speaker 7: to examine that and really take note of why are
Speaker 7: you doing something just because someone is telling you.
Speaker 18: To do them if you don't really know why?
Speaker 19: Right, Yeah, it's huge. We do so much in our
Speaker 19: life and we don't ask why why do I do this?
Speaker 19: I am very neurodivergent, and my tendency is to examine things,
Speaker 19: and so I appreciate that not everyone's brain works the
Speaker 19: same way that mine does. It's taken me a while
Speaker 19: to get to that point. I used to be so
Speaker 19: frustrated that people seem to think I was overthinking things
Speaker 19: all the time. And people thought I was, you know,
Speaker 19: pushing too many buttons, and I was like, oh, that's
Speaker 19: because the neurotypical brain, most people's brains aren't endlessly curious
Speaker 19: about the why, and so I try and leave space
Speaker 19: for that. Just everybody's brain works differently, you know, But
Speaker 19: for me, I just I don't know how you can
Speaker 19: go through life not asking yourself why? Why?
Speaker 11: Why?
Speaker 19: Because even when I was in this group, it's the
Speaker 19: why that got me in, but it's also the why
Speaker 19: that got me out. Like it's just the most important question.
Speaker 19: I think you can ask yourself with everything. Why do
Speaker 19: I eat this? Why am I I'm getting married? Why
Speaker 19: do I walk down an aisle? Why? Why do do
Speaker 19: I need to keep my room clean? Why do I
Speaker 19: need to walk my dogs? Why do I pray? Why?
Speaker 19: And follow it all the way down? And I think,
Speaker 19: I mean, some roads just keep on going. I don't
Speaker 19: know that we'll ever arrive at the answer, but you
Speaker 19: certainly can arrive at like new layers of understanding of
Speaker 19: yourself and other people. Sorry, I didn't mean to go
Speaker 19: on a tangent, but yes, you're right that one of
Speaker 19: the main points of the book is nobody else can
Speaker 19: live your life for you, you have to move with
Speaker 19: the God of your understanding at the pace that you're at.
Speaker 19: And you also can't condemn or judge other people for
Speaker 19: the pace that they're at and where they are. You
Speaker 19: didn't grow up as them. You don't know their life,
Speaker 19: and you don't know how God is speaking to them
Speaker 19: or planning to speak to them. You just don't know