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Speaker 1: Hey guys, Sunday Sampler, what do your thank you? We

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Speaker 1: had a two new podcasts in the Vets Office with

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Speaker 1: Doctor Josie and take this personally with Morgan Hulesman. You'll

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Speaker 1: hear a clip from these episodes and just a bit

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Speaker 1: and subscribe to those if you like them, love them.

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Speaker 1: On the Bobby Cast, I sat down with Hunter Girl

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Speaker 1: talk about what life was like before she hit it

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Speaker 1: and before American idol and the origin of her stage name.

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Speaker 1: Really love to be around her and all the cool

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Speaker 1: stuff she does even outside of music.

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna get started here.

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Speaker 1: Within the Vets office with Doctor Josie, they had Dug

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Speaker 1: the Pug on Dug the Og celebrity dog millions of

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Speaker 1: Instagram followers. So Doctor Josie talked with his owner Leslie

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Speaker 1: about how famous Doug got the rise to fame the DMS.

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Speaker 2: He gets funny episode.

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Speaker 1: Here we go in the Vets Office with Doctor Josie.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to in the Vet's Office with Doctor Josie Horchak.

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Speaker 4: How did this all come to be?

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Speaker 5: So? I used to actually work a few buildings over

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Speaker 5: on Music Row. I went to Belmont and that's what

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Speaker 5: moved me to Nashville, and I had dreams of working

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Speaker 5: like graphic design and branding and stuff for bands, and

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Speaker 5: so I got a job doing that at a small

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Speaker 5: record label artist management company. And I got Doug when

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Speaker 4: A junior at Belmont.

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Speaker 5: So I was in college in college, and so I

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Speaker 5: was going to work on music row and then I

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Speaker 5: would come home and I had my dream pug who

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Speaker 5: loved getting dressed up and loved doing activities with me

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Speaker 5: I would get home from work and go out around

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Speaker 5: Nashville and take pics with him. This was in the

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Speaker 5: very beginning of Instagram. I think this was twenty thirteen

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Speaker 5: when I started posting him, and so I just did

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Speaker 5: it for fun on my personal Instagram. I mean, no

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Speaker 5: have it. It was mostly Facebook at that time. And

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Speaker 5: I would post him and say Doug the pug doing that,

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Speaker 5: Doug and I blah blah blah, and people just wanted

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Speaker 5: to see Doug. So if I posted anything on my

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Speaker 5: personal Instagram that wasn't Doug, people were like, where's.

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Speaker 4: Doug, like, we don't really care. They just wanted to

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Speaker 5: And so I started getting a little more creative and

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Speaker 5: you know, things that were on trend, like holiday type things,

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Speaker 5: or if a famous artist was coming into Nashville, I

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Speaker 5: would like play off that and big Instagram pug accounts

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Speaker 5: that had all these followers at the time. When they

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Speaker 4: They would get so many likes, and it.

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Speaker 5: Was this rush of like, WHOA, that's so cool a

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Speaker 5: photo that I took and a concept that I came

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Speaker 5: very condensed, but I ended up switching my account from

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Speaker 5: into it. And he reached one hundred thousand followers on Instagram,

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Speaker 5: which was insane and huge and amazing at the time.

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Speaker 4: And we had a.

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Speaker 5: Little party and I was just honestly a very fun hobby.

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Speaker 5: It got me, brought me a lot of joy, and

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Speaker 5: it brought other people joy. And I would be lying

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Speaker 5: if I didn't say that at that time, I saw

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Speaker 5: it being something like what it is now. I had

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Speaker 5: this gut feeling to pursue it, and so I actually

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Speaker 5: when he hit one hundred thousand followers, I put in

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Speaker 5: my notice to quit my job.

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Speaker 4: Wow, and people thought I was crazy.

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Speaker 5: I kind of lied to most people and said I'm

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Speaker 5: starting my own graphic design business because I didn't want

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Speaker 5: to be like So, I have this dog that has

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Speaker 5: put my notice in for that job. At that one

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Speaker 5: hundred thousand party, we had a pug balloon left over,

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Speaker 5: I went to Dragon Park in Hillsborough Village, which was

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Speaker 4: Can you put like people?

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you about my best friend, Like, let's

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Speaker 5: it to Doug's Facebook, his Instagram, and then I made

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Speaker 5: him a Twitter because I was like, what would a

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Speaker 5: so I put it on all these things and I

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Speaker 5: But that night I posted it, didn't think anything of it.

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Speaker 5: three thousand likes at the time on Facebook, and the

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Speaker 4: I'm like, what happened? And I looked at the video

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Speaker 4: and had twenty million views.

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Speaker 6: Wow, and this is the one hundred k party where

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Speaker 6: he's running around with a pug bull Yes, Like right

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Speaker 6: after that party, I took a little video with a

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Speaker 6: leftover balloon and I was like, whoa.

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, it.

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Speaker 5: Was real okay, you know, And by the end of

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Speaker 5: that week he had a million likes followers on Facebook.

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Speaker 4: Doug was like, my mom just quit her job. I

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Speaker 5: And so it was this crazy feeling of like I

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Speaker 4: So Rob luckily.

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Speaker 5: Got home from tour right around then, and we just

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Speaker 5: up with like, let's dress Dug up as Harry Potter

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Speaker 5: popular TV shows, The Walking Dead. I dressed him as

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Speaker 5: and like but we didn't care. It was just this

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Speaker 5: very exhilarating time. And within a few months we had

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Speaker 4: We went to London. Did he hit his first million

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Speaker 4: followers that year? Oh yeah?

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Speaker 5: So he on Facebook went from three thousand to a

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Speaker 4: Okay, on Instagram.

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Speaker 5: Instagram's a harder platform to grow, so I think it

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Speaker 5: posted two pictures of Doug. They his label actually hit

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Speaker 5: us up and was like, hey, remember the Justin Bieber

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Speaker 4: It was like the best era, but take me back?

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Speaker 5: And he was like on the Calvin Klein ads, they

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Speaker 5: asked Doug to be a part of a countdown for

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Speaker 5: how many days until?

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Speaker 5: And so I took pictures of Doug wearing Calvin kleins

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Speaker 5: you mean? And Justin posted two of those photos and

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Speaker 4: Day, I bet, and it was.

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Speaker 5: It's just still so crazy to even look back on

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Speaker 5: it's been the most amazing fun ride and Doug.

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Speaker 4: Loves every second of it.

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Speaker 6: One thing that you said that I just feel like

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Speaker 6: there's Instagram influencers and TikTok where you're like, Okay, this

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Speaker 6: like it just seems so organic and you just enjoy

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Speaker 6: I mean, obviously he's like your child, so you enjoy

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Speaker 6: doing it. He loves to do it, and like that

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Speaker 6: just really translates. I thank you on his page is

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Speaker 6: why he's so successful.

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Speaker 4: I really appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: I feel like, obviously, social media has changed exponentially. We've

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Speaker 5: would have a completely different approach to social media with

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Speaker 5: honestly become so much more laid back and we're a

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Speaker 5: lot happier because of it, because we're just sharing like literally.

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Speaker 4: What we want to share doing anyway. Yeah, we feel

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Speaker 5: Have nothing else to prove at this point, right, and

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Speaker 5: it's it's just like truly for fun and to like

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Speaker 5: we still have so many big dreams obviously, but his

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Speaker 2: Why one word hunter girl?

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Speaker 8: Why?

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Speaker 1: I know and I've heard the story. You know you

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Speaker 1: were the only or whatever the version is, you were

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Speaker 1: the only in your class. You're a girl, But what

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Speaker 9: When why just because That's what everybody called me growing up,

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Speaker 9: and my last name's Walking Awski, eleven letters, pretty rough,

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Speaker 9: but I feel like that just part of me, especially

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Speaker 9: right now, and like, hey, hunter girl, like how are

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Speaker 9: you doing? That's what my Paul would call me. And

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Speaker 9: so whenever I come up on stage and I have

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Speaker 9: I was growing up, it kind of always just reminds

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Speaker 9: me of home. That's how I feel when I think

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Speaker 2: Did I don't say anything to you about just going

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Speaker 2: by one name? Weirdly? Were they like, are you sure

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Speaker 2: you want to do this?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 9: Like I think somebody had like mentioned that. They're like,

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Speaker 9: do you want to do Hunter Walking Awski? And I

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Speaker 9: was like, I think I want to be I think

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna be Hunter girl.

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Speaker 8: One word And they're like, that's cool.

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Speaker 9: People will remember it, and they were like, just go

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Speaker 9: for it.

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Speaker 1: People do remember. I remember going, oh, this girl's I

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is cool, Like that's how I

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Speaker 1: was again. I was checking out the show I'd Adventures,

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Speaker 1: but you you never know who they're going to keep

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Speaker 1: on that show. I watched them edit people and like

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Speaker 1: but they'd already been eliminated, like for for drama.

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Speaker 2: So Hunter, though, is your name? I remember asking I

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Speaker 1: Asking you this in the same way, like what do

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Speaker 2: Your friends call you that.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna do it live. We ah the one shoot

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Speaker 13: What up, everybody? I am lunchbox.

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Speaker 10: I know the most about sports, so I'll give you

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Speaker 8: It's Sison I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male.

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Speaker 10: Over to you, coach, And here's a clip from this

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Speaker 13: Right, tell me, how'd that Christmas party go?

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Speaker 14: Man?

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Speaker 8: You missed out. I told you it was networking.

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Speaker 10: I know I was gonna go. Then the wife informed

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Speaker 8: Sometimes you realize I just got a network for the

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's at a higher up's house, which is weird.

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Speaker 10: It's not easy to get to and they do it

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Speaker 8: And I get there, and when I say networking, it

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Speaker 13: Robin still works here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, show's great too.

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Speaker 13: Excuse me, m h. I had no idea.

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Speaker 8: Stuff she does outside of here that you just don't

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Speaker 10: I mean that means she works from home, because I

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Speaker 8: Correct, FTW, that's awesome. From the home. Fth from the home. Okay,

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Speaker 8: And that's it, dude, it's I said in Indian Circle

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Speaker 8: having a pow wow. That is how you promote the

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Speaker 13: So it was just four people, yes.

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Speaker 8: Because I got there so early. It was my fault.

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Speaker 8: It was nothing on the party. It was what times

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Speaker 8: it's one of those where they were on the couches,

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Speaker 8: I just pulled up a chair. Dude. Hey, if we're

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Speaker 8: Truck ain't fitting in that driveway. So you park in

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Speaker 8: for half of a football field, you're literally walking on

443
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Speaker 8: the road.

444
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, bro, And there's no street lights.

445
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 8: I'm running on the road because I didn't want to

446
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 8: walk in the grass. Well, then a car starts coming,

447
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 8: so I go into the grass and it looks like

448
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 8: other cars have gone into the grass as well, and

449
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 8: it might be muddy, so there were probably mud on

450
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 8: my shoes. I walk into the party and there's nothing

451
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 8: but white carpet. Ugh, So what do you think I

452
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 8: did because it'd.

453
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 13: Been raining, Yeah, took a shoe off.

454
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,479
Speaker 8: So I looked at the party host, the brass they

455
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 8: all had their shoes on. I just couldn't risk walking

456
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 8: on that carpet and making shoeprints when I'm trying to

457
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 8: network for the sore losers and I'm just dirtying up

458
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 8: the place. I took off my shoes. Why was that

459
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 8: a mistake? Bro? Every time I tried to network and

460
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 8: conversate with somebody, I was a foot shorter than everybody

461
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 8: because everybody wore their shoes except for me. That leads

462
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 8: me to my next story. Dude comes walking in, looks

463
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 8: like he's from Chicago. New York got a big bar

464
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 8: fig time city. Everybody was dressed up and looked good.

465
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 13: But did he have a scarf?

466
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 8: No? Yeah, just a long black jacket, butt up, good shoes,

467
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 8: good jeans.

468
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 13: What looked like what was his hair?

469
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 8: He looked he looked like falcon. Oh and but but

470
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 8: you knew he was important and I had already. Dude,

471
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 8: I talked to every brass there there was. There was

472
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 8: no more brass left.

473
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 13: So he's a baldy.

474
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,959
Speaker 8: Huh. I didn't even talk to Abbie.

475
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Speaker 13: I don't even know who the baldy. I don't know

476
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 13: who this guy is.

477
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 8: There's people this company don't even know there was a

478
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 8: brunuit chick. I go Morgan, who's at Oh she works

479
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 8: for a premiere. No, I never seen her. Who is

480
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 8: that blondie? How do you even know her? Why are

481
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 8: you guys so friendly? Oh, she's great, she was at

482
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 8: the last Christmas party. I don't know. I'm literally never

483
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 8: seen her. And we work in the same building.

484
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 13: Got it.

485
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 8: And so then this dude comes in. He looks important.

486
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 8: I've talked to everybody, Abbey, I see every dam damn

487
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 8: IM not talking about?

488
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,719
Speaker 10: So what did you talk about with the brass when

489
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 10: you're sitting in that little circle the pow wow?

490
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 8: It's did you do your high low for the day,

491
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 8: or your rose or your thorn. Now I was trying

492
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 8: to think that's what it was. It was she's from

493
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 8: Kentucky and she goes, oh, yeah, I hope the Valls

494
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,719
Speaker 8: win on Saturday. Because the one lady not to get

495
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 8: too much in the weeds. The one lady just got

496
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 8: a divorced and her husband ex husband was a huge

497
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 8: fan of the Boles. And so I was being funny

498
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 8: and I was like, hey, screw the balls, let's root

499
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 8: against the balls this Saturday, being on her side, just

500
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 8: being funny. I'm Avalls fan. And then the brass jumps

501
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 8: in and goes.

502
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 13: Yeah, let's go.

503
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 8: Actually I want the Falls. Let's go. We want Tennessee.

504
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 8: And I go, aren't you from Kentucky? And then she goes,

505
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,239
Speaker 8: I just go for the game. But she goes, I'm

506
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 8: more of a basketball girl, and she said I love

507
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 8: the pre games. And then we talked about Rup and

508
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 8: I said I was out rupping, Oh the Steak the

509
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 8: area of Rop, And I was like, have you ever

510
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 8: been there? She goes, Honey, I ever been there. I've

511
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 8: been there a hundred times. And I said, I want

512
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 8: to go for a game. You know what, maybe you

513
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 8: and me go for a game sometime that's called networking, baby, honey,

514
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 8: that's called networking. So that was just one of the

515
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 8: things that we talked about.

516
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 13: And you said me and you should go to a

517
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 13: game sometime. What did she say?

518
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 8: It was all just laughing joke. Here's a Christmas party?

519
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 8: Am I in the brass? Gonna go driving Kentucky and

520
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 8: go to Rupprena sometime maybe?

521
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 13: But anyways, I've heard rough so old and that needs improven.

522
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 8: Dude. They looked good. But I moved to the kitchen

523
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 8: and here comes another brass. There's so many brass around, dude.

524
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 13: Hey, which one got divorced?

525
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 15: Robin?

526
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 12: Oh?

527
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 8: Oh, but I knew that already. Oh but it would

528
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 8: have been bad if I got caught off Guarden. I

529
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 8: didn't get a heads up about that. Then the dude

530
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 8: walks in and I go right up to I'm not

531
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 8: I chill in the glassroom with Abby. I'm not trying

532
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 8: to be like, hey, Abby, how's it going. I've talked

533
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 8: to Abby about everything. I'm good. So she Abby's like

534
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 8: call me over. I'm like, ha ha, I totally dissed her.

535
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 13: Abby. I see you every day at work.

536
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 8: I'm going to network with this dude. I go Hey,

537
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 8: how's it going. He goes, hey, you right, yeah, how

538
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 8: are you? What's your name? He goes Bob, and he goes,

539
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 8: he were sore losers, right? What dude? I just about

540
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 8: fell out. Not only did he know my name, he

541
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 8: knew about sore losers.

542
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 13: Tell me more about it.

543
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 8: So Bob runs everything the volume. Colin cow or Dan Patrick,

544
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 8: if they go somewhere to Fountain Blue, he runs it.

545
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 8: If they're at the pool, he runs it. He's all

546
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 8: over the country. They'll go to events, six hundred people

547
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 8: pop up, boom, he goes. Sometimes the crowds are wild.

548
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 8: For Steven A. Smith, he runs it. Draymond Green runs it.

549
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 8: The volume has Jeff Tigue and the some of oh yeah.

550
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 13: Yeah, that Jeff guy. He's pretty funny.

551
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 8: Runs it. He's always there, advice, ads, marketing. Who's the

552
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 8: other show? He said, Draymond getting on a mic. Right,

553
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 8: I forgets the technical It's amazing, he said. That shows

554
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 8: that volume blowing up. He goes, you guys are blowing up.

555
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 8: Great talk with him?

556
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 13: What all did he say?

557
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 8: Everything? He was just talking And I said, I used

558
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 8: to listen to Colin Cowhard. That must be so cool.

559
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 8: He does it. Sounded more with the sports shows, and

560
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 8: I was trying to think of the one other one

561
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 8: that is huge. Oh, Ocho Cinco is on a show

562
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 8: with you guys are yelling at your trucks right now.

563
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 8: Ocho Cinco has a show with Shannon Sharp.

564
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 13: Yeah. I think you're right that one.

565
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, And he said, blowing up, dude. The fact sore

566
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 8: Losers was mentioned in the same sentence as Ocho Cinco,

567
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 8: Draymond Green, Shannon Sharp, Colin Cowherd, and Dan Patrick blowing up.

568
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 13: What else did Bob say about sore Losers.

569
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 8: Uh, not not much, but the fact that he knew

570
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 8: the show and then put us in the category of

571
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 8: sports and he said, blowing up.

572
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Speaker 16: Seles Man, are you ready, Hillary, I'm excited.

573
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 14: I'm excited to get a talk with you on a microphone.

574
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 16: Not that I haven't talked to you in a long time.

575
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 14: But this is our first official talk on a microphone

576
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 14: since you left the show.

577
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been almost three years. I was thinking about

578
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: that today. I was like, this is the first I've

579
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: been behind a microphone and almost three years, and the

580
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: last time I was was probably the last best bits.

581
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Speaker 14: But you had mentioned how Tyler is your first boyfriend

582
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 14: and now like potentially going to be your fiance. But

583
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 14: what's that been like for you? He's your first boyfriend

584
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 14: and you weren't dating before that. Is there like any

585
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 14: part of you that thinks about that and that kind

586
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 14: of situation?

587
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 16: Yes, I yes, I have thought about it.

588
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: First of all, when I was never you know, part

589
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: of the reasons I haven't dated was I feel like

590
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: if I liked a guy, they wouldn't like me back.

591
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 16: So it wasn't like a choice. Part of it was,

592
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 16: but part of it wasn't. It was just people just

593
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 16: didn't like me. So I always saw something was wrong

594
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 16: with me. Okay, I liked you, well, you know what

595
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 16: I mean.

596
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Speaker 14: There were I'm ninety nine point nine percent sure, even

597
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 14: though I have only known you my adult life, that

598
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 14: there were people that liked you. You just probably didn't feel

599
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 14: that back, so.

600
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Speaker 16: They never pursued it or they didn't tell me. Yeah

601
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 16: that's possible too. Yeah, Yeah, you maybe beautiful, So I

602
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 16: can guarantee that there were people that liked you. Yeah,

603
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 16: maybe they just didn't tell me.

604
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: Okay, So maybe there have been missed opportunities, which is

605
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: fine because I'm happy where I'm at. Yeah, but yeah, no,

606
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: I've always felt like, Okay, something's wrong with me. If

607
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: I'm not nobody likes me, nobody wants to be in

608
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: a relationship with me. Something's wrong with me. And I'd

609
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: have strangers on the internet telling me something is wrong

610
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: with me too, So that didn't help. Yeah, they definitely

611
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: let me know. They're like, something's wrong with you, Like,

612
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: are you, you know, normal?

613
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 16: I was like, no, I'm fine, You're perfectly normal. Yeah,

614
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 16: I'm just not finding someone. Timeline was just different.

615
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: My timeline was different, and it was definitely worth the

616
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 3: way of waiting for waiting to find him. Like he is,

617
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 3: like you said, just to a gem of a human.

618
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Speaker 16: Yeah, he's precious.

619
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Speaker 14: Well do you feel like, do you still have those

620
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 14: feelings now or did once you met him? Did that

621
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 14: all kind of quiet itself?

622
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 16: It did? It quieted itself?

623
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Speaker 3: I mean I I you know me, I struggle with

624
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 3: self confidence issues and things like that, so that stuff

625
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: has remained. But the whole it was like it was different.

626
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: It was I do feel like I'm worthy enough and

627
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: you know, good enough for someone, and so I feel

628
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: very secure in that. But within myself, I definitely still

629
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: have you know, the doubts and.

630
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 16: Self confidence issues, all those things.

631
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 14: You want to talk about that a little bit, because

632
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 14: mental health is part of this podcast, yes, and we

633
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 14: talk about.

634
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 16: Those things a lot.

635
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 14: So where do you feel like you're at kind of

636
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 14: right now in your life with your I guess you

637
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 14: can say self love journey. Do you feel like you're

638
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 14: on a better path or do you feel like you're

639
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 14: kind of stagnant?

640
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 16: Where are you right now?

641
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm in a good place now. I

642
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: think a couple a couple of years ago, i'd had

643
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: a not I was not in the best place, which

644
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: was right around the time. It was right before I

645
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: started dating Tyler. But I'll never forget. We were at

646
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: a dinner. I know exactly. I know you're gonna remember

647
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: what it was. It was a Valentine's Day. It was

648
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: Valentine's Day dinner. And at the point at that time,

649
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: I was still single and I just turned thirty, and.

650
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 16: I just was having so many self doubt issues.

651
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: And I've dealt with that my entire life, Like, honestly,

652
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: ever since I was in elementary school, I've dealt with

653
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: self confidence issues and didn't know it at the time.

654
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: As I've gotten older, I've learned a lot about anxiety

655
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: and things like that, and I know that's you know,

656
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: what I was dealing with. But yeah, a couple of

657
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,479
Speaker 3: years ago, I remember I was just in not a

658
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: great place. I didn't like myself. I've always struggled with

659
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: weight and you know how I view myself body my

660
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Speaker 3: body issues, Yeah, body image issues. It's a great way

661
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Speaker 3: put that. So at that time, I was really dealing

662
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Speaker 3: with a lot of those issues. And I've definitely always

663
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 3: struggled with body image issues and that's all always probably

664
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Speaker 3: been one of my main things that I've struggled when

665
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: it comes to myself and self confidence issues. And yeah,

666
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, I just I was dealing

667
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: with with those things. And I feel like I can

668
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: talk about like I feel like it's kind of probably

669
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Speaker 3: like trigger warning type of stuff for some people, but

670
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: I definitely do feel like I had like eating disorder

671
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 3: type stuff. I mean I would there were times that

672
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: I would make myself throw up or I wouldn't eat,

673
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: like I would starve myself.

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Speaker 16: And I kind of had dealt with.

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Speaker 3: That a little bit in you know, my early twenties,

676
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Speaker 3: and I was doing fine and then for some reason

677
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, I just was having some

678
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: issues and just not loving myself. I was turning thirty

679
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: and I was not at all where I thought i'd

680
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 3: be in my life. And I think that had a

681
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: lot to do with it. Was turning thirty and realizing

682
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Speaker 3: I'm not married, i don't own a house, i don't

683
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Speaker 3: have kids, I'm not at all where I thought I

684
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: would be in life. And I was also making career changes,

685
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 3: so everything all at once, Everything was changing at once,

686
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Speaker 3: and I was not feeling good about myself. And so

687
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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, yeah, I just was not

688
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: and I was in a very dark place and just

689
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 3: not feeling good about myself. And we were out that

690
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: dinner and I don't remember what was said, something said

691
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: and I just started bawling my eyes out at the dinner,

692
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 3: and we got up and went into your jeep, and

693
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 3: you and Jodie were there, and y'all said, we're not

694
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: leaving until you tell us what's going on. And I

695
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: remember I was just crying so hard I couldn't barely speak,

696
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 3: and I was just so embarrassed because I'd never I

697
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: do need to say, I'd never really admitted to anybody

698
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 3: that I did all of that stuff, and because I

699
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: was embarrassed and nobody knew that that had ever happened,

700
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: that I was doing, you know, making myself sick, not

701
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 3: eating things like that, nobody knew, and I finally was

702
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: able to open up to y'all about that. And I

703
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: will never forget that night of just sitting there for

704
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 3: even know how long, just crying and just I don't

705
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 3: think many words were said. It was just y'all being

706
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: there and being able to cry to y'all and admit,

707
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: this is what's going on in my life. And I

708
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 3: have these bad habits again like I had them before

709
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: and I got past it, but it's happening again, and

710
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: I feel alone and I feel stuck, and I feel

711
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: like what do I do? So I remember being able

712
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Speaker 3: to talk to y'all about that that night.

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Speaker 17: Hey, it's Mike d And this week All Movie Mike's

714
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Speaker 17: Movie podcast, I shared my top ten underrated.

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Speaker 16: Movies of the year.

716
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Speaker 17: And these are a lot of movies that aren't sequels,

717
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 17: aren't remakes, aren't superhero movies. So if you're somebody who says, man,

718
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Speaker 17: everything's a remaked these days, I have ten movies that

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Speaker 17: maybe you missed in theaters. I think they are underappreciated.

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Speaker 17: More people should have seen these, they should have performed

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Speaker 17: better at the box office, because I think they're all

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Speaker 17: good movies that you can watch at home. Now, So

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Speaker 17: here's what I had as my number one pick, but

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Speaker 17: be sure to go check out this full episode to

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Speaker 17: hear the entire list. Right now, here's just a little

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Speaker 17: bit of movie Mike's Movie podcast. At number one, my

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Speaker 17: most underrated movie of twenty twenty four, I have My

728
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Speaker 17: Old Ass So Good, which I gave a four at

729
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Speaker 17: a five. It has a pretty decent audience score, like

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Speaker 17: a great eighty nine percent. But I think this one

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Speaker 17: comes down to the box office. Had a budget of

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Speaker 17: three million dollars, which is wild that they made this

733
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Speaker 17: movie for three million dollars, but it only made five

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Speaker 17: million dollars.

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Speaker 4: That's two million dollars.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 15: Though it sputtering bean in the red.

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Speaker 17: I just think that it is hard to make a

739
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Speaker 17: fresh coming of age movie at this point. And I

740
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Speaker 17: love the formula. I could watch the same coming of

741
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Speaker 17: age formula in any amount of movies and I would

742
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Speaker 17: still enjoy There's just something special about it when done right.

743
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Speaker 17: And this one the twist was that she takes some mushrooms,

744
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 17: she sees her older self, which is Aubrey Plaza. She

745
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 17: tells her all this stuff about her future and kind

746
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 17: of gives her advice on what to avoid, and then

747
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,479
Speaker 17: puts her phone, no in her phone, and she's able

748
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 17: to communicate with her. My only thing was I wanted

749
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Speaker 17: more Aubrey Plaza, But.

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Speaker 15: It was cool to see Aubrey Plaza on more like

751
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Speaker 15: I mean, she was still her like dry, comedic self,

752
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Speaker 15: but a little bit more.

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Speaker 8: Of an emotional Yeah.

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Speaker 17: Well, there was a scene in this movie where I

755
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Speaker 17: damn near cried.

756
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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think you did.

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Speaker 17: Like I think it was there was a span of

758
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Speaker 17: movies there. I think this one in the Wild Robot.

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Speaker 17: We watched back to back, I believe, and both times

760
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Speaker 17: the movies like I almost cried.

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Speaker 2: I look over and.

762
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Speaker 17: I did not expect to go there because there's just

763
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Speaker 17: a moment where it's like, oh, man, all this stuff

764
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 17: that had been building up and building up. Yeah, there's

765
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Speaker 17: a lot of fights between her younger self and her

766
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Speaker 17: older self, which I would question things that I would

767
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Speaker 17: be telling my younger self, and there's a moment that

768
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Speaker 17: just hits you right in the gut and then it

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Speaker 17: just like, oh man, I just kind of sat with it.

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Speaker 15: What's the number one thing that you would tell your

771
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Speaker 15: younger self? Sitting here now as a thirty three year old,

772
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Speaker 15: I always have to remember, hold you are.

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Speaker 17: It's very difficul I don't know how cliche this is,

774
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Speaker 17: but like, stop caring what people think. I think that

775
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Speaker 17: kept me from doing a lot of things that I

776
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 17: enjoyed younger because I was worried about how they would

777
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 17: be perceived by other people. And at that time, I

778
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 17: didn't realize that those other people would not matter when

779
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Speaker 17: I was older. Like look at this room now, Like

780
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Speaker 17: all these things that I embraced now were things that

781
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 17: I hid back then. And I think all the things

782
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Speaker 17: about me now that I enjoy actually about myself I

783
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Speaker 17: was ashamed of probably fifteen years ago. And it's hard

784
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Speaker 17: to say to imagine me like being cool, but I

785
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Speaker 17: had a feeling of like I need to be cool

786
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Speaker 17: because I was so one cool that I didn't want

787
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Speaker 17: to come across of like putting anything against me because

788
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Speaker 17: there was already a lot of things held against me.

789
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Speaker 17: I felt like like I was overweight, I had bad skin,

790
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Speaker 17: my teeth are messed up. There were just things I

791
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Speaker 17: felt that kept me from being cool, and I was like,

792
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Speaker 17: I just can't show any other weakness. I think that's

793
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Speaker 17: what it would be it for me. I would just

794
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Speaker 17: not care about what anybody else thought. And just like

795
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Speaker 17: the things I like, would you tell yourself?

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Speaker 15: Mine's also cliche, and mine would be to like stop

797
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 15: worrying about the boys that didn't like me. Like I

798
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 15: just was like, no one's ever gonna like me. I'm

799
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 15: gonna be single forever. I felt that too, and I

800
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 15: was so young. But I think I think when you're

801
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Speaker 15: in high school and it's like you have those couples

802
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Speaker 15: and like ever I never had a boyfriend. You were

803
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Speaker 15: my first boyfriend.

804
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Speaker 8: I damn you went my first girlfriend dates.

805
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Speaker 15: Like I liked people, I talk to people, but like

806
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 15: no one ever really fully liked me. And I just

807
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 15: used to think, like I'm ugly, no one's gonna like me.

808
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 15: And I'm just say in retrospect, I think I was

809
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 15: just like too smart. I think I intimidated people like

810
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Speaker 15: not to toot my own horn, but I think I

811
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Speaker 15: just was like unapproachable because I was really smart.

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Speaker 2: I've oddly been thinking about this lately.

813
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Speaker 8: Is.

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Speaker 17: I always felt that it was people not giving me

815
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Speaker 17: a chance. And when I look back on myself there,

816
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 17: I think I just didn't respect myself enough, Like I

817
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 17: didn't put enough effort into myself to attract anybody. I

818
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 17: thought it was all about looks, but I think it

819
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Speaker 17: was how I treated myself and probably the energy I

820
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 17: put out that was really what it was. And I

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Speaker 17: just thought it was, like I said, just people not

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Speaker 17: give me a chance. But I thought about like would

823
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Speaker 17: I even want to be with me then? So maybe

824
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Speaker 17: that's the advice I would give to myself, like, hey,

825
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Speaker 17: working yourself a little more, dummy.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think I would tell myself to stop stressing.

827
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Speaker 15: Because I met you when I was twenty four. That's

828
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Speaker 15: that is still so young when in retrospect, I met

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Speaker 15: you when I was twenty four, I'm married to twenty seven.

830
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Speaker 15: Like I don't know. I think I just was like,

831
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Speaker 15: oh my god, I'm going to be alone forever. But

832
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 15: like those things feel so big when you're younger. Yeah,

833
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Speaker 15: they feel so monumental.

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Speaker 17: When you're younger, you want to get older. When you're older,

835
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Speaker 17: you want to be younger. I think if I was

836
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Speaker 17: more specific about my advice I think it would be

837
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Speaker 17: that you're on your own timeline. Yeah, like nobody else

838
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 17: is really looking at your timeline, even though to you

839
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Speaker 17: it feels like, ah, I'm so behind. How am I

840
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 17: not at this point in my life yet? When really

841
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 17: nobody else cares about what's going on with you And

842
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 17: in the end, it doesn't really matter, like what age

843
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 17: you are when you hit these supposed milestones that you're

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Speaker 17: supposed to hit.

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Speaker 15: I think I would also I would warn myself not

846
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 15: to like several of the guys that I liked. I

847
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 15: think I would be like, don't waste your time, don't

848
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 15: just don't delete his number.

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Speaker 17: Even more specific advice, I would have told myself to

850
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 17: like to get into coding more like pay attention to

851
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 17: technology more.

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Speaker 15: I would have told myself to purchase real estate at

853
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 15: the age of like five.

854
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Speaker 17: I'd invested in like TikTok or something.

855
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Speaker 8: I would have invested in bitcoin exactly.

856
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 17: I'd have bought it when it was so cheap. It'd

857
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 17: be millionaires now as I tell you.

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00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 15: I would have bought stock and Apple.

859
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Speaker 2: Would it have been as value?

860
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Speaker 17: I guess back then, I feel like the time would

861
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 17: have to buy it would have been like the eighties.

862
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 17: Whenever they were first launching, it was like dirty. I

863
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 17: don't know if they were public by that point.

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Speaker 15: It's not according to what one of the characters in

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Speaker 15: the Nexolas Sparks book.

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Speaker 17: Did, But all right, that is the list.

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Speaker 15: Cary Lone, she's a queen and talking and you saw them.

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Speaker 15: You know, she's getting really not afraid to feel its episode, so.

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Speaker 13: Just let it flow.

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Speaker 17: No one can do we quiet cary Lone is kind

871
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Speaker 17: of care Lone.

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Speaker 7: I'm sad I was not someone who grew up watching

873
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 7: One Tree Hill, and now I feel like I need

874
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 7: to go back and binge that because after like reading

875
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Speaker 7: your book and then deep diving you and then I

876
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 7: deep dived One Tree Hill, and that show is like,

877
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 7: that's like an amazing That show like shaped our generation.

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Speaker 7: Like I'm forty one, and I feel like, I don't

879
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Speaker 7: know how I missed watching it, probably because I didn't

880
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 7: watch a whole bunch of TV growing up, but.

881
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Speaker 18: That was like pretty much I know, I know, right,

882
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 18: that was like the show that shaped our like our minds.

883
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 18: I feel like I feel like that.

884
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 7: And Friday Night Lights it's like One Tree Hi Lights

885
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 7: were the ones.

886
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Speaker 19: Right, that was a big one too. Yeah, the others

887
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 19: felt like they were as much as we loved Gossip

888
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 19: Girl in the OC, they were very they lived in

889
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 19: that Beverly Hills nine O, two and O zone of

890
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 19: it's such a rare population of America who live like that.

891
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 19: But the kids that live like us kids in One

892
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 19: Tree Hill and the kids that lived like the Friday

893
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 19: Night Light kids are vastly more. Sorry my sentences aren't

894
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 19: working today. They'll come together eventually, but there's so many

895
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 19: more of a population that lives like that and things

896
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 19: like that and experiences life just in a small town

897
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Speaker 19: like that. So I feel like we really kind of

898
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 19: cornered the market on just reflecting back to teens in

899
00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 19: America what their life was and they felt seen. And

900
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 19: you should go back and watch it.

901
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 18: You definitely should.

902
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: It be fun.

903
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 18: I need to binge it. I love a good show.

904
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Speaker 7: I have a five year old daughter and all I

905
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Speaker 7: watch is like Disney, and now she's into watching YouTube,

906
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 7: like YouTube kids and all these families just make their

907
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 7: own YouTube videos and I'm like, oh my god, I

908
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 7: literally it's torture to watch it, but it's I need

909
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 7: to watch like real, real content, and that's our shows

910
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 7: were great. You know, that's when the storylines were good.

911
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 7: They lasted a long time.

912
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Speaker 18: It's just, man, what a life you've lived, Bethanie.

913
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Speaker 7: Okay, So now that I'm like diving into your book,

914
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 7: I literally you're such a good storyteller.

915
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Speaker 18: First off, becauk you, I am so in the story

916
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Speaker 18: with you.

917
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Speaker 7: When I am reading this, I feel like I feel

918
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 7: like I'm like in your actual brain walking starting from

919
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 7: your childhood with your parents.

920
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Speaker 18: Like it's just it makes so much sense, like it's

921
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 18: you always wonder.

922
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Speaker 7: I'm from Waco, Texas, and we had David Crash in

923
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 7: the branch Davidians.

924
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Speaker 18: We actually, oh boy, yes, that's right, of course you did.

925
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Speaker 8: You had a.

926
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Speaker 18: Cult in our in our town. And there's been like.

927
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Speaker 7: Lots of other little pop up cults that lots of

928
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Speaker 7: families join and they're integrated into the city. But it's

929
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 7: definitely always been like cults. So there's a lot of

930
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 7: culty vibes in Wacos. So I've always grown up with

931
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Speaker 7: interesting Yeah, I've always grown up like with a big

932
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 7: understanding of cults.

933
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Speaker 18: But like I always wondered, how does this happen? Like

934
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Speaker 18: how does so unusual?

935
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Speaker 19: But maybe it's not unusual. I haven't. I'm not a researcher,

936
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 19: but it seems strange to me that in a town

937
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 19: like Waco, where it's known for being the center of

938
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 19: this massive cult event, that others would pop up, so

939
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 19: many others would still pop up in that region that

940
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Speaker 19: like people didn't quite learn the lesson.

941
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Speaker 18: I guess it's that is wild. It is wild, And

942
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Speaker 18: there's some other I don't know if they're called cults.

943
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 18: What do you call them?

944
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Speaker 7: A focus group or like a what does the other

945
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 7: word you use for that?

946
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Speaker 18: It's not cult, but it's like a control group.

947
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 19: Yeah, high demand, high demand group great, which that is

948
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 19: what a cult is. It's it's the definitions are interchangeable.

949
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 18: High demand group think.

950
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Speaker 7: I love the group think because I actually was talking

951
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Speaker 7: to my friend. We're in Georgia and I we're saying

952
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 7: with some friends, and we were talking about just faith

953
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 7: and how people can have all sorts of.

954
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Speaker 18: Rules with it.

955
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Speaker 7: Like, so I have some friends right now who I

956
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Speaker 7: consider really great friends who are like not practicing yoga

957
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 7: because they feel like that is sacrilegious. Then I'm like,

958
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 7: and you can probably find all of these spiritual practices

959
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 7: to back it. But at the same time, like I

960
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 7: personally have had so many spiritual experiences that I have

961
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 7: had myself that it's like, I know, I have to

962
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 7: trust my own intuition and not other people's advice. What

963
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 7: might be good for someone, or what might someone might

964
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Speaker 7: feel like is their path, that does not mean it

965
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Speaker 7: is my spiritual path.

966
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Speaker 18: And I love that.

967
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Speaker 7: I feel like that's sort of the point that I'm

968
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Speaker 7: getting from your book is yes, someone can have a

969
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 7: spiritual idea and that can truly be their road, But like,

970
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Speaker 7: if it does not align with you, and if it

971
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 7: is not your internal guidance system, like really you need

972
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 7: to examine that and really take note of why are

973
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 7: you doing something just because someone is telling you.

974
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Speaker 18: To do them if you don't really know why?

975
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Speaker 19: Right, Yeah, it's huge. We do so much in our

976
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Speaker 19: life and we don't ask why why do I do this?

977
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Speaker 19: I am very neurodivergent, and my tendency is to examine things,

978
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Speaker 19: and so I appreciate that not everyone's brain works the

979
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Speaker 19: same way that mine does. It's taken me a while

980
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Speaker 19: to get to that point. I used to be so

981
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Speaker 19: frustrated that people seem to think I was overthinking things

982
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 19: all the time. And people thought I was, you know,

983
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 19: pushing too many buttons, and I was like, oh, that's

984
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 19: because the neurotypical brain, most people's brains aren't endlessly curious

985
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 19: about the why, and so I try and leave space

986
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 19: for that. Just everybody's brain works differently, you know, But

987
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Speaker 19: for me, I just I don't know how you can

988
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Speaker 19: go through life not asking yourself why? Why?

989
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 11: Why?

990
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 19: Because even when I was in this group, it's the

991
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 19: why that got me in, but it's also the why

992
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 19: that got me out. Like it's just the most important question.

993
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 19: I think you can ask yourself with everything. Why do

994
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 19: I eat this? Why am I I'm getting married? Why

995
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 19: do I walk down an aisle? Why? Why do do

996
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 19: I need to keep my room clean? Why do I

997
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:08,479
Speaker 19: need to walk my dogs? Why do I pray? Why?

998
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 19: And follow it all the way down? And I think,

999
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 19: I mean, some roads just keep on going. I don't

1000
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 19: know that we'll ever arrive at the answer, but you

1001
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 19: certainly can arrive at like new layers of understanding of

1002
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 19: yourself and other people. Sorry, I didn't mean to go

1003
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Speaker 19: on a tangent, but yes, you're right that one of

1004
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 19: the main points of the book is nobody else can

1005
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 19: live your life for you, you have to move with

1006
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 19: the God of your understanding at the pace that you're at.

1007
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 19: And you also can't condemn or judge other people for

1008
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 19: the pace that they're at and where they are. You

1009
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 19: didn't grow up as them. You don't know their life,

1010
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Speaker 19: and you don't know how God is speaking to them

1011
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 19: or planning to speak to them. You just don't know