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Speaker 1: and I just felt like maybe this would be just

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Speaker 1: You know, we grew up here in LA and between

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Speaker 1: And anyway, I just felt like maybe we should talk

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Speaker 1: I've been a huge Lakers fan forever and ever and ever,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's been hard for me to even

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Speaker 1: hasn't you know, it's actually I've wrote, I've written a

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Speaker 1: know what you mean. I know what you mean, and

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Speaker 1: It is helpful because what he said was that his

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Speaker 1: It was so tragic, and I think it's important to

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Speaker 1: And I know, for me, I kept saying to myself,

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Speaker 1: It brought up so much. And one of the things

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Speaker 1: not lost on me in any way that tragedy, tragedy

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Speaker 1: So when someone like that is taken from us in

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Speaker 1: out of the house. Let's just get out of the house.

428
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Speaker 1: I was a mess. I mean, for so many reasons,

429
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: right and I went to the movies and I sat

430
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: and I just happened to walk in and like Demi

431
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: Levado is the Grammy's Night. It's just like it's just like,

432
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: how does life go on? How do we go on

433
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: when something like this happens? But I'm sitting there and

434
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: I just started to like cry watching this. Demi just

435
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: sing a beautiful song. And I looked and this woman

436
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: was sitting next to me, and she worked at the

437
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: movie theater and we're just staring at it. We're both

438
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: crying our eyes out, and she just went, well, I

439
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: needed that today, and I said me too, and we

440
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: connected because there is a a eight there was. It

441
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: affected everybody. Doesn't matter if you knew him, doesn't matter

442
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: if you didn't know him. It was It hit a

443
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: chor for for so many people. And I think it's

444
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: important to talk about these things. Yeah, no, I understand,

445
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: it's love is everything. I understand. But my thing is

446
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: why why do people want? Why do people care? What?

447
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: I think? That's where I'm at, Like we're doing this

448
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: podcast and I love Look. Kobe Bryant was was a

449
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: hero of mine. And I can't say an idol because

450
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: I was a little older but he was. He just

451
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: was the man who cares what I have to think.

452
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: That's remember when we saw for me, Do you remember

453
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: when we sat court side and we went, yeah, remember

454
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: Kobe was playing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember. Yeah. What

455
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: did that feel like to see him play? Oh my god?

456
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: I mean I was fortunate enough to sit in seats

457
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: on the on the court a few times. There was

458
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: a time I sat next to him on the bench,

459
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: because there's a bench. He sat in a specific seat

460
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: every time. Then he came off the floor and it

461
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: was at the end of the bench towards you know,

462
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: where the where everyone is, and I was sitting right

463
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: next to him, so when they had huddles, I would

464
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: listen in. And I mean it was fucking genius. He

465
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: was a genius. I mean there was there was the man.

466
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: He was a man. What did you love about his scowl?

467
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: I think because there were he You know, if you

468
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: look at some of the ball ers today, you look

469
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: at Lebron, you know, you look at you look at

470
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, Steph Curry, and they are beloved sort of

471
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: by everybody. They're Lebron haters, you know, here and there,

472
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: but for the most part, everyone loves Lebron. You know,

473
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: everyone loves Steph. We're in a love fest now in

474
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: the NBA. You know, everyone loves Kuhi. I mean, the

475
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: guy's awesome. But Kobe was not loved by everyone. Kobe

476
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: was hated probably by more people than he was loved

477
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: as far as on the basketball court. And I love that.

478
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: I love that people didn't like him, and I loved

479
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: why they didn't like him. The reason that people didn't

480
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: love him is why I loved him. Tell me, because

481
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: he gave the middle finger to everyone else. He was like,

482
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: fuck off. Basically, I don't care that you don't love me.

483
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: Here's here's how I play ball. And that's really all

484
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: the matters, you know what I mean. I'm not worried

485
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: about sort of my image with you people, with the fans.

486
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: You know, I care about my image in the community,

487
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: and I care about who I am as a basketball

488
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: player on the court. And I'm a motherfucker on the court.

489
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: I am ruthless. Rip your throat out. I don't give

490
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 1: a I don't give a shit. That's where that's the Jordan,

491
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: that's the Jordan esque vibe. And he had that Jordan thing,

492
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, where he was just a killer, you know,

493
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: and I love that. I loved how he sort of

494
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 1: dealt with adversity. You know. I probably something that you know,

495
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: I wish that I had in myself where it's like,

496
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: you can hate me, that doesn't affect me. It actually

497
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: fuels me. Keep hating, you know, keep hating me. That's

498
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: gas on the fire, you know. And that's what that

499
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: scoal was. It was like he sort of put his

500
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: gums up, you know, he put his lip up and

501
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: his gums. He was just like, ah, like, you know,

502
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: it just feels good to flip you the middle finger,

503
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: you know, with a game winning shot or a jumper,

504
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: an impossible jumper. That's that's That's what I loved about

505
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: Kobe by the way that happened in the beginning, That

506
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: that that that that was a that wasn't a learned fire.

507
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: That fire has stopped from the beginning. I remember, yeah,

508
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: when he was a rookie, you know, he didn't even

509
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: start that much. But he I forget the game, but

510
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: he had a game where he just shit the bed,

511
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: just hoisted up shots, fucking missing shots. He didn't give

512
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: a shit. The next the next game he's right there

513
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: battling again doing it he didn't care. It wasn't He

514
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: didn't care what people were saying. He knew his greatness.

515
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: He believed in his greatness so much so that throw

516
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: him up fail fail, fail doesn't matter, you know, just wait,

517
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: just wait, you know, boo all you want, you know,

518
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: call me whatever you want, but just give it a

519
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: minute and then you'll you know, you'll eat your words,

520
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: but I don't need to say it. I'm just gonna

521
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: you can quietly eat your words while I've become the

522
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: greatest basketball player ever to walk the planet. You know, yeah,

523
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: I like that. I think too, you know. He then

524
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 1: uh human and and you know, young Uh went through

525
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: moments that he even said, you know, could have made

526
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: better decisions. But where he was at now was a

527
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: place that I think a lot of us really looked

528
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: forward to, because there was a like people would say

529
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: to him all the time, like aren't you going to

530
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: miss basketball? Like you're going to want to come You're

531
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: going to retire, you're going to come back, And in

532
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: his mind it was like, I'm no, I'm going to

533
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: move on my life. Well, I'm going to do other

534
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: things and and and the fierce competitor in him not

535
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: only knew that about himself, but when and that when

536
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: that day came, that that is what, that's who he was.

537
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: His life changed directions always always basketball. I mean, this

538
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: is love, but I mean there's so he had so

539
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: many interests, and you know, you hear a lot of

540
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: stories about you know, people talking about him now and

541
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: honoring him about how his curiosity and he really was.

542
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, any any any moment I had

543
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: with Kobe was always filled with curiosity and engagement, very engaged,

544
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: asking more questions than answering them, almost to the point

545
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: where sometimes you'd be put off, taken out off guard

546
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: because it was like, oh, he's how is he so

547
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: interested in my boring life? Like your life is way

548
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: more exciting than mine, you know, and your ability. I mean, god,

549
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: you know, but he just was a a mind expander

550
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: and now and uh hm anyway, I just uh, you know,

551
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: they say in grief that you you should talk about

552
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: the people, and that they say that the best healing

553
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: is to always if you want to talk about people

554
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: like they're still here, if you need to talk about them,

555
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: that you just do it, and that that and you

556
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: always keep them alive. And I think that not only

557
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: should we keep talking about Kobe? Should we keep honoring

558
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: him and his family? And Gianna and and and and

559
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: the families that they lost their lives. But we that

560
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: we that we understand that that's a that is going

561
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: to be a part of all of our everybody's healing process.

562
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: You know, we need to you keep these people alive

563
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: because because they're a lot, they are alive inside of us.

564
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: And and the same with all of those all of

565
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: the kids that are hurting and and and scared. You know,

566
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: you just there were always as a parent too, you

567
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: do think about these things. You know, all you want

568
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: as a parent when you go is to know that

569
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: your kids are okay. So to the kids, you know,

570
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 1: all your parents want is for you to know that

571
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: that that you're in there, that you're there and that

572
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: and that even if you're not there in the tangible form,

573
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: that you are living in them every day and that

574
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: you're there. And I think that in the end that

575
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: they feel that love, they don't feel they don't feel abandoned.

576
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: M hm. And I think that if there's anything you

577
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: know that you could say it to the kids, and

578
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: is that is that is that that would make your

579
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: parents happy mm hmmm, So I guess you know we

580
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: we we we we experience these tragedies, we live through them,

581
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: and one day they become our own tragedies. Because we

582
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: all meet the same we all meet the same uh path,

583
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: we all we all, we all die and some people

584
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: just unfortunately sooner than others. But that we that we

585
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 1: live fully and keeping the people that impact us always

586
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: around us. Am I talking too much? Am I? Am? I?

587
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: Am I being? Am I making sense? Good? It's good,

588
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: It's good, it's good, it's good. All right. Well, I

589
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: love you, and I know everybody out there you know

590
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: we love you. And Kobe, I love you. Rpour eight

591
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day, eight days a week. And

592
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: let's see how he lived. That was his work ethic.

593
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: I pray and I visualize, you know, all of those

594
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: families protecting each other, and them protecting their families now

595
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: and now those families have the most powerful angels. Yep.

596
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe we just pray and send love