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Speaker 1: Changing gears a little bit. Our guests is actually email

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Speaker 1: the link. Sure something went wrong on his ends.

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Speaker 2: Wherever my stuff is right now presently.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, our guest huge history with you.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: For me, it's just kind of funny because I remember

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Speaker 2: It just takes me back.

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Speaker 3: To being twenty two, twenty three and quietly sitting in

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Speaker 4: I don't want to say anything, stupid hilario.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very cool to have him coming out with us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited about this interview. This should be a

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Speaker 1: good one. Yeah. So this next guest is a person

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Speaker 1: I worked very closely with in the ECW. He's also

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Speaker 1: known for his time in WWF is Aldo Montoya, but

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Speaker 1: I think he shines more with us. Good friend of mine. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: please welcome PJ Bloco, AJB Justin Crapple.

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Speaker 4: What's going on guys?

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Speaker 1: Anybuddy, how are you.

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Speaker 4: Tired running around like crazy? And finally.

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Speaker 2: We got another clean shaven guy. What are you and Russel?

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Speaker 3: You guys like patting together to shave at the same time.

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Speaker 4: I have his show November ninth, right, So I had

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Speaker 4: to clean this up because sometimes, you know, I'm getting grays.

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Speaker 4: So you know, this way, it'll be grown in and

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Speaker 4: I'll be looking like a normal person soon.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we just had Yeah, we were just talking to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we do an aw review show usually every Friday.

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Speaker 4: We start off at like ten am and it's all

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Speaker 4: through Patreon and you know, we do like ten minutes

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Speaker 4: really cool experience. I really dig working with him. He's

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Speaker 4: But it's a shamy, you know, he gets such a

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Speaker 4: the end of my note writing at night, I was

430
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 4: already like, it's like same shit every night, you know.

431
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 4: You see, I literally do a gimmick now where I

432
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 4: count how many dives they do and how how many

433
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 4: apron bumps. It all looks like the same match, and

434
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 4: how many superkicks there are in a show, and how

435
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 4: many times somebody slaps their legs. It's all the same match.

436
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 4: One thing. It's a disappoint and I won't get into it.

437
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm still in that mode. Is the women's

438
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 4: division really kind of is not good over there?

439
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: And I thought, really, I haven't seen any of it,

440
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: so now no, I don't. I don't watch wrestling anymore.

441
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 1: I watched the first week of AW I watched the

442
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: first hour, and I saw a little bit of the

443
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,959
Speaker 1: girls match that night, but I never saw the finish

444
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: because I think my kids were come home from school

445
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: and I had to go get them or something. But

446
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: just then turn it back on, like I.

447
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 4: Can't watch w W E. Yeah, it's it's just too long.

448
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 4: It's too it's the same stuff. But the one thing

449
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 4: I do tell the thing I can say about both

450
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 4: products are good, two totally different styles, you know.

451
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: Totally different styles. Okay, So right, well, I get a

452
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, and you probably get the

453
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: same thing I do. With the network out there, we

454
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: have such a new generation of fans that are watching

455
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: our stuff for the first time. Yes, and it's twenty

456
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: twenty five years old, and they're saying how it holds

457
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: up in the year twenty nineteen and how creative it is.

458
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: And then you go and tell me it's the same

459
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: stuff every single week. You know, we never did that

460
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: we had. We you know, there was so much variety

461
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: on our show, and yeah, it's fresh, you know.

462
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 4: It kept it fresh. And one thing Paul was really

463
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 4: good at was and you know a lot of the

464
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 4: best directors are just like that. He made the most

465
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 4: of what he had. He would find a spot outside

466
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 4: of a building to do a promo. He did those

467
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 4: pulp fiction vignettes like that stuff that's still not being

468
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 4: done today. It's not being utilized. Like one of the

469
00:25:55,359 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 4: biggest criticisms I have of AW is unless you followed

470
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 4: the elite, those guys from before, you're in, you're a

471
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 4: new fan tuning in, you really don't like, you don't

472
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 4: know these guys are they? You know, so they're having

473
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 4: a hard time where Paul would like, you know, everybody

474
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 4: would have their little stick and promos and not just

475
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 4: long winded in ring promos where you know, WW does

476
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 4: like I Talk, you talk and you know, just fun stuff.

477
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 4: And I think it holds up today. I'm amazed that

478
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 4: nobody's really tried to uh, I mean people have tried,

479
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 4: but to try to take some of those elements and

480
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 4: freshen them up to today. Because what we also did

481
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 4: was and we couldn't get away with it today because

482
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 4: the copyrights. But man, that music with the wrestling, you know,

483
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: and it was like it made it cool and the

484
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 4: buildings were on fire. It looked it was so entertaining

485
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 4: just from just that whole thing was just it was

486
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 4: just different. And if you have the money, like an

487
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 4: ad w or or the w w W, well, you know,

488
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 4: hell if me and xpop got Uncle Crocker to give

489
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 4: us a song and they and they were paying for

490
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 4: it every time that we came out, they paid for it. Yeah,

491
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, why not do a little more

492
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 4: of that? I think music and wrestling for a long

493
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: time has gone together and it could really make your

494
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 4: show a little hipper. You know.

495
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: I would sit in the studio and be amazed by

496
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: Paul because he would use all the cool hip artists

497
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: of you know, nineteen ninety six, and we'd be like,

498
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: how are you getting away with it? Don't worry about it,

499
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: don't relax, don't worry. I'm just like, man, this this

500
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: is really cool. But god, if you ever get caught,

501
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: how are we not caught on on on television?

502
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 4: Well, you know, you know how we got away with

503
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 4: it on pay per view was if if it's on

504
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 4: in the background, like if it's not if it's not

505
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 4: plugged into the feed, like the direct audio feed, and

506
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 4: if it's like in the like this in the background,

507
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 4: you can get away with some of it. Not all

508
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 4: of it, but you could get away with some of it.

509
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: I did an indie show with Shane not long ago,

510
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: and I recorded it for YouTube and I got flagged

511
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: for the Perfect Strangers. Yeah, I couldn't have it on

512
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: on YouTube. I didn't get monetized. They demonetized that video.

513
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: And I was just like, great, Yeah, I can't even

514
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: put an entrance on YouTube. It's ridiculous.

515
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 4: Are you really kidding?

516
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: No, that's what it was because I saw that, you know,

517
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: there's a little dollar sign and it was had a

518
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: slash through it. Yeah, And I'm looking at the video

519
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: and I said, the only thing I can think of

520
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: is Shane's music. And I think it may have been

521
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: Stevie or somebody I don't know who's music. And I said, damn,

522
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: they flagged me for that Perfect Strangers.

523
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 4: Who's doing Who's watching all these videos?

524
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: Something in like it literal and this is all above

525
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: our heads. Something in the interface that can read the

526
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 3: music because I had it happened to me too. I

527
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: posted a full episode of Triple Threat on YouTube and

528
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: I literally have a karaoke version of Perfect Strangers that

529
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: got flagged and I was like, I didn't even know

530
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: what song it was, Like, it's an instrumental karaoke version.

531
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 4: Come on, wow, I didn't know that.

532
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. But if you watch w W now on the

533
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: on the network and they elevator music over all of

534
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: our enters.

535
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: Kills the whole experience, it does.

536
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: It kills, really does sick. But I love the fact

537
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: that that there's a whole new generation stuff.

538
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was talking about this with somebody the other day.

539
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 4: I don't remember who it was. Who was I with?

540
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 4: Oh Tatanka Uh didn't appearance with him, and I thought

541
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 4: you were with him too. It was just the same weekend.

542
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 4: I believe it was the last weekend. I was with

543
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: him the last day on Sunday and Uh. I think

544
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 4: they're going to put E. C. W into the Hall

545
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 4: of Fame, but as a faction, you know what I mean.

546
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 4: I think I think it was well because A, you're

547
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 4: gonna run out of players and be we really were.

548
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 4: He were owned by w WE, so they can see

549
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: that'll be a promotional thing. And you can just have

550
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 4: Hayman go out there and bring out, you know, two

551
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: or three of the e CW you know, and believe me,

552
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 4: they're gonna they're gonna have all of us out there

553
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 4: getting rings. But we should. Uh. But nonetheless, I think

554
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 4: that'll that'll be cool. It's nobody told me it's gonna happen,

555
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: but I think one of these days, sooner than later,

556
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 4: I think that's that's bound to happen.

557
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: You know, they will quietly do something like that. Like

558
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: there's a thing they do for the like the old

559
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: old timers, like the sixties seventies guy and even the

560
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 3: fifties and sixties guys that they just.

561
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: Out of nowhere. It's called the Legacy Wing. They just

562
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: brought it out of nowhere.

563
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they just pull guys out of left field

564
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 3: and they just say, oh, well, you're in a Hall

565
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: of fame.

566
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 4: Now. It doesn't mean nothing to me because it's fake

567
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 4: and you know what I mean, it's it's not a

568
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 4: real hall of fame. What I would personally like is

569
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 4: one of those legends contracts. Oh yeah, because I just

570
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 4: want I just want an Aldo doll it's the only

571
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 4: thing I want, because it was like, some guy made

572
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 4: this amazing, like super super detailed. It looks like it

573
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 4: would have been a Mattel h right out of the package.

574
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 4: And I was like, wow, I really And then I

575
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 4: tweeted the picture and I was like, let's start a

576
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 4: little campaign because from what Zach Ryder was telling me, like,

577
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 4: if you get to the right people at Mattel, they

578
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 4: will pitch you know, wwe on it, because you know,

579
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 4: a lot of times they're looking for rare figures. They're

580
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 4: looking for you know, how many Roman range are you

581
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 4: going to sell? You know, like a France scene Shane

582
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: Douglas set would sell, you know, or just you know

583
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 4: what I mean, like like a vintage or feud thing

584
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: would sell. I think they're they owned the property already,

585
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 4: so I don't see why they don't do that because

586
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 4: after a while, you're you know, you made the free birds.

587
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 4: You know, it's like really wow.

588
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: If they made a shame figure, I would drop dead.

589
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 4: I just want I just want some of that fucking

590
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 4: matel money.

591
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: Well, I think if they do include us in the

592
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, I think it would be on Facebook

593
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: Live and not even on the main show. I just

594
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: don't think they care enough about the c W to

595
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: showcase us. That's just my opinion. But you never you

596
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: do never.

597
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I never know because they're they're you know, as

598
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 4: long as Haymon's there, you never know.

599
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Anything can happen. But you mentioned Alda Montoya,

600
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: and I know on your Twitter you can either you're

601
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: cutting some messages as Aldo or you will appear as him.

602
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: So are you just yes? So are you getting a

603
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: lot of requests?

604
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 4: I have done well, I can't say too much, but

605
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: I am not getting I have not gotten any bookings

606
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 4: yet from other than appearances for all.

607
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: Right, okay, so all right, so you're not have you

608
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: you're not working as him in the ring yet?

609
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 4: Nobody's asked.

610
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: Nobody's asked, but it's out there.

611
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 4: I just thought it would have been fun because like,

612
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 4: you know, why not, like why not? You know, so

613
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 4: just to you know, another opportunity kind of to to

614
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 4: get a booking, but not nobody's asked for it. I

615
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 4: mean I have done a couple with the mask autographs,

616
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 4: and believe me, the mask that I've got made and

617
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 4: I got all new gear made is actually way better

618
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: than the crap. They made me so nice.

619
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: So it's out there if you.

620
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 4: Want to book them. Yeah, it's out there. It's out there.

621
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: Okay, if they want to book you was all dough,

622
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: or if they want to book he was just incredible.

623
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: You'll do double duty if you have to.

624
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 4: Do whatever, I'll do whatever they want. I'm definitely a

625
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: who well, I love it.

626
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you with your new gig with Vince

627
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: for for an anything coming up that you can't talk about,

628
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: that's that's a positive thing. Works for you.

629
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 4: No, I mean you know, I'm excited. I will it'll

630
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 4: It'll be happening soon. Yes, in the next time I

631
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 4: want to say it's so bad.

632
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: That's okay. You don't have to, but I can use.

633
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: Something's gonna be happening for PJA and.

634
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 2: A lot to my good lord.

635
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna got a new job at Chile's starting

636
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 4: in December, so that no shame.

637
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: What's uh? Okay? So where where can we find you

638
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: on social media? Plug whatever you want?

639
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 4: My Pro Wrestling Teas, Pro Wrestling Teas dot Com, Backslash

640
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 4: just incredible. I've got four new shirts out right now

641
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 4: and Twitter at PJ Poloco and Instagram at PJ Poloco

642
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 4: and I have a Facebook page but I barely go there,

643
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 4: but if you are interested in booking me, you can

644
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 4: message me there because I do check my messages with

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Speaker 4: Vincerousso yeah, Vince Russo with Patreon on It's patreon dot

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Speaker 4: com backslash Russo t w C, which is Truth with Consequences.

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Speaker 4: And he's got all kinds of pay windows, like you know,

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Speaker 4: if you want to listen to our show for example, specifically,

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Speaker 4: it's three dollars a month, you know. So he's got

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Speaker 4: all kinds of of packages and he's got good stuff

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Speaker 4: there too. He just doesn't talk about wrestling as like

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Speaker 4: album reviews and all. He's all over the place with everything.

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Speaker 4: So he's, uh, he's got a lot of content, fine worthdry.

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Speaker 1: Time, awesome, awesome, Well, proud of you, very proud of you.

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Speaker 4: I'm happy everything's going good with you. And I yes,

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Speaker 4: I was talking about I was talking to my wife

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Speaker 4: about that, and we'll talk about that someday. But I

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Speaker 4: don't even remember what it was. I was just so happy.

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Speaker 4: I was just saying, I was like, I was so happy.

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Speaker 1: Now everybody's like, what are they talking about? You don't

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Speaker 1: need to know.

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Speaker 4: It made me seriously deep inside. It made me like

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Speaker 4: really happy.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad and I do love you, and I

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Speaker 1: I hope everything worked out for you. I love Jill.

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Speaker 1: I hope everything is going well with her.

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Speaker 4: Everything is better.

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Speaker 1: And I'll see you somewhere.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure we'll see each other very soon. Guys, thank

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Speaker 4: you so much for having me. And I really apologize

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Speaker 4: because like I'm running like no.

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Speaker 2: No one knows you were late, but you're late.

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Speaker 1: That's okay.

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Speaker 2: He's apologizing for being such an awesome guest.

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Speaker 4: Thanks. That's right, Well, thank you guys.

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Speaker 1: Bye.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 3: So PJ has disappeared from the landscape very quickly. That's

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Speaker 3: the fastest I've ever seen anybody disconnect. Uh yeah, we're

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Speaker 3: back in real time and just awesome to have PJ on.

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Speaker 2: I always love here.

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Speaker 3: And what he's got to say being very open, which

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Speaker 3: I know is something that you were you were hoping

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Speaker 3: for with that that appearance and very good stuff, always

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Speaker 3: very very real, and that's one thing you can always

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Speaker 3: say about PJ.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And like I said, I you know, I would

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Speaker 1: never put a guest on the spot, so I had

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Speaker 1: asked him prior, like is there anything off limits, because

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Speaker 1: I don't want to make you uncomfortable. He was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm an open book. So I wanted him to give

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Speaker 1: his side because you know what you hear, and you

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Speaker 1: know some people can fabricate things. So we wanted to

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Speaker 1: get it from the horse's mouth, and we did well.

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Speaker 2: Sand of the horse's ass.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. I'm so happy that he's doing

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Speaker 1: well now. I mean, you always want to see a

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Speaker 1: positive story, and I think he turned his life around

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Speaker 1: for the better.