1 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: in Burreal, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Day, brought to 3 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck, coming soon to Ohio on eight 4 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura. Happy First Friday and welcome into Cleveland. Browns 6 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: Daily brought to you by Bally Bet coming soon to Ohio, 7 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura, Jason Gibbs with you for the first hour. 8 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: Coming up an hour two Tives Powell will join us 9 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: on the program live here right at the Cross Country 10 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: Mortgage Campus. He will be in studio here in about 11 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: an hour and about an hour, but you know here 12 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: we are on a Wednesday. The Browns making another move 13 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: official today, saying that they have officially resigned linebacker Anthony 14 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: Walker Junior, who was now with Browns, will be with 15 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: Browns for his third consecutive season after initially joining the 16 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: team as an undrestricted free agent in twenty twenty one. 17 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: He led the Browns and tackles that year. Last year, 18 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: has voted a team captain and started the first three 19 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: games before that quad injury against the Steelers on Thursday 20 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: night force to miss the remainder of the season Walker 21 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: in his career seventy three games, sixty three starts, four 22 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty three tackles, four point five sacks, three interceptions, 23 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: two fumble recoveries and a forced fumble as well, and 24 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: not to mention great player on the field, great guy 25 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: off the field, and we're gonna be talking with him 26 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: in just a second in here. But give a owners 27 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: meetings yesterday and we'll talk about this more later down 28 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: in at the biltmore down in Arizona. Our owners talked 29 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: a lot yesterday about the new stadium, what that might 30 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: look like, renovating the downtown area there. They talked about 31 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. They talked about the direction of this football team. 32 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: I thought it was a very newsworthy meeting that they 33 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: had with the media and some interesting stuff. It sounds 34 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: like right now those who are saying there's no place 35 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: like Dome, it doesn't sound positive on that front. But 36 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: it also wasn't a definite no, but it did feel 37 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: like that's going to be a little bit a tougher 38 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: task going forward. Yeah, I mean a lot can happen. 39 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: I think they're still looking into all their options, is 40 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: what it sounds like. They're doing their due diligence. I 41 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: mean last week you were out on Friday. Denver's doing 42 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: the same thing, sending questionnaires to their season ticket holders 43 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: and doing as much work as they can to determine 44 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: what direction they might want to go. And I think 45 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: the Haslums, to their credit and to the people in 46 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: this building that run the show on a daily basis, 47 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: everybody's doing their due diligence to make sure they get 48 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: it right and make sure that whatever option is the 49 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: best option is the one that you know, gives us 50 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: what we need. Yeah, I think that you look at 51 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, from a stadium standpoint, the best option obviously 52 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: would be to have a dome. I mean I think 53 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: from a city standpoint, from an event standpoint, from all 54 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: the things that you can have. Look at Senior Swag 55 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: coming in here. It's just kind of like a little 56 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: bit of pink. He's got the Travis Scotts on. It's 57 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: just Wednesday. Stop it. He won't stop it. A dome 58 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: is in isolation. If everything else was being equal, that's 59 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: what you would want to have. But everything is not equal. 60 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: The costs associated with it, the difficulties associated with and 61 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: all of that. But let's go to something that is 62 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: a wonderful thing and that is a done deal, and 63 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: that's Anthony Walker Jr. Back on the Cleveland Browns. He 64 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: joins the show now via the Twisted Tea Hotline, brought 65 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: to you by Twisted t Hard Iced Tea and official 66 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: sponsor of the Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted, Cleveland a walk. 67 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: What's up? Man? Congrats, welcome back. You know, I am 68 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: thrilled to have you back here with the Cleveland Browns. 69 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: What's going on? My guy? Yeah? Nah, I know you guys, 70 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: you know you guys know I'm happy to be back 71 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. You know, like you said, a lot of 72 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: unfinished business to take care of, and I'm happy to 73 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: be back. Well, we're happy to have you. Let's before 74 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: we kind of get into the whole journey that led 75 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: to this moment, I do want to ask you, you know, 76 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: what did it mean to you to see so many 77 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: of your teammates take to social media and basically demand 78 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: that you were back, say we need a walk back 79 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: the love that you got from your teammates, because you know, 80 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: I remember Jacoby Brissett, you know, last year saying something 81 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: that really struck me, and he said at the end 82 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 1: of the day. In this business, of course, you want 83 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: to win. But the one thing that you hope to 84 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: earn and that can never be taken away from you, 85 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: is the respect of your peers. And you, sir, most 86 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: certainly have the respect of your peers. Yeah, I think 87 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: you just hit it, Um, the respect of your peers. Uh, 88 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: you know, I think that's the you know, obviously, you 89 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: want to win, you want to win Super Bowls. You 90 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: want to you know, be the best player that you 91 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: can be, obviously, and that's what comes with you know, 92 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: the game. Um. But you also, like you said, the 93 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: respect of your peers. In respect of your teammates. Um. 94 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: You know, you know I always tell people, you know, 95 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: super Bowl and being named the captain by your peers 96 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: is one of the you know, two greatest things you 97 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: know that could happen in this sport, um. And that's because, 98 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: like the like you said, the respect that you have 99 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: to earn, and that's a daily thing. UM. So I 100 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: take pride in that. I take pride in, you know, 101 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: showing up every day doing the little things right. And um, 102 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: you know it's great that my teammates, um see it 103 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: every day and they acknowledge it and you know, just 104 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: respect me enough to you know, want me back on 105 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: the team. Um. You know obviously, like you said, it's 106 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: just it's a process, like it's a business, and you know, 107 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: you got to go through certain loopholes and stuff to 108 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: get back to this point. But um, you know, I'm 109 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: always happy to be back with my guys and they're 110 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: happy to have you back. As it was clearly well documented. 111 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: What was what were some of the things that your 112 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: teammates reached out and said to you once it was 113 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: official that you were coming back. Yeah, well, um, I see, 114 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm actually seeing Martin Emerson every day, so uh, he 115 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: was really static. Um he's in Miami, down in Miami 116 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: training with me. Um, so he was excited. Um. Obviously 117 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: Greg Knewsom you know somebody, uh you know really you know, 118 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: just i mean obviously going to the same college and 119 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, spending so much time together here. Um, you know, 120 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: he was excited. And Jai ok Um, the annoying little brother, 121 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: that's my guy though. Man, he's uh, he was really 122 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: ecstatic as well. So um, you know, like you said, 123 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: just you know, the respected of your teammates to you know, 124 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: the respect of your peers. Um, and it really it 125 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: really showed in that moment. Yeah, even perry On was 126 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: out there, and you know, Perryon's a vocal guy in 127 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: his support of you. A young guy that I think 128 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: would do very well following in your footsteps of how 129 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: you approach the game. He's a very talented young man. 130 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: All Right, hey, walk let's talk about this last year 131 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: for you. You're I thought you were playing some of 132 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: the best football, if not the best football of your career. 133 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: Early on, the unfortunate injury comes you have to be 134 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: on the sidelines, but you were still so involved with 135 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: your team. Once you were able to even be out there, 136 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: able to stand again and be able to walk around. 137 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: You know, what was that year like for you personally? 138 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: First time that you've kind of gone through, at least 139 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: at this level, that kind of adversity being on the sidelines. 140 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: What did you learn about yourself? What did you learn 141 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: about your love of the game? Um, I think you 142 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, you hit on the head. It goes back. 143 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: I mean in any level. This is the first time 144 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: I've had a season ending you know injury where I 145 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: missed you know, the last fourteen games of the season, 146 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: and um, that was tough. I learned a lot about 147 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: myself mentally, um, you know, especially those first couple of 148 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: days after surgery. Um, you know, one of some of 149 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: the hardest days of my life. UM. Just you know, 150 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: being in there after surgery, in the hotel room, just 151 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: like you know, watch like watching watching practice, watching tape, 152 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: like you know, I'm not out there, and didn't realize 153 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: that I'm not going to be out there for the 154 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: rest of the year. UM. You know it definitely it 155 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: humbled me a lot. Um you know, be able to 156 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, obviously, like you said, playing some really good football, um, 157 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, starting to come around as a team. I 158 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: thought that Pittsburgh game, you know, was kind of putting 159 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: us over that second, that next step in the right direction. 160 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: Um you know, and then you know, I get hurt, 161 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: and I just feel, you know, I felt like I 162 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: let the team down. Um. You know, I probably myself 163 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: on you know, being able to be durable and all 164 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: that stuff and take care of my body. UM, and 165 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't able to do that, you know, and I 166 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: had to miss a full season. Um. So again, like 167 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: I said, a humble meet, but also gave me a 168 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: different perspective. You know, you sit back and you're able 169 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: to watch the game from a different view and you 170 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: kind of almost use it as a red shirt year 171 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: like in college. So, um, this is pretty much like 172 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: the second one I've had in the NFL outside of 173 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: my rookie year, UM, where I just got to sit 174 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: back and you know, watch the game a little bit. Um, 175 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, just watch my teammates and listen to the 176 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: coaches and all that stuff, and get a different perspective 177 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: of the game. UM. Obviously, the love of the game, 178 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's there, you know, it's uh, but I 179 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: think you are passion for the game goes up a 180 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: little bit more because you're able to watch it from 181 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: a different point of view. Um. You know, I was 182 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: able to spend time and the offensive side of the 183 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: UM side of meetings, spend time with the quarterbacks and 184 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: coach Kevin and all that stuff, um, and just get 185 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: a different perspective. I appreciate them allowing me to do 186 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: that as well, UM, just to kind of, you know, 187 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,599 Speaker 1: evolve my game a little bit more. So. UM, that 188 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: was all cool and everything, But obviously, you rather be 189 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: playing at the end of the day. You play football, 190 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: you know, you'd rather be out there with your teammates 191 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: going through the us and downs of a season and 192 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully putting yourself in that position to help 193 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: your team win the Super Bowl. And I wasn't able 194 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: to do that last year. So to be able to 195 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: come back with these guys and uh, put that, you know, 196 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: put that year kind of behind me now and just 197 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: work on getting better, getting healthier, and you know, going 198 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: out there with my guys and you know, you know, 199 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: let's uh two ears to what happens. You know, you 200 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: have high expectations. That's just what it is. You know, 201 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: you want to win a super Bowl. That's not something 202 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: that you shy away from. You want to win a 203 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: super Bowl. You play this game to win, and uh, 204 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: that's that's our goal. That's always going to be our goal. 205 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: And you aim high and hopefully you get there and 206 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: then that's our that's our goal for this year. So 207 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: you know, let's just see what happens. Absolutely all right, 208 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: you dropped some awesome nuggets right there. So you got 209 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: to spend time in offensive meetings with Kevin Stefanski, and 210 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: I had imagined as a mic linebacker that was probably 211 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: pretty invaluable. What surprised you maybe in the way that 212 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: offenses go about their business and attacking a defense or 213 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: what's something that you learned that you think will really 214 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: help you on the field this year. Yeah. Well, um, obviously, 215 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, Coach cav always likes to, uh, you know, 216 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: say some smart comments when I'm when I'm in the 217 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: in the media room stuff. When he'd always say like, oh, 218 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: number five is right there, we definitely throw that right there. 219 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: We're definitely running the ball right there. But um no, 220 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: just a different perspective, um, different viewpoint, if that makes sense. 221 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: You know, as a defensive player, you you know, you 222 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: try to you know, you want to assume where your 223 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: weakness is and obviously that's where the offense wants to attack. 224 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: But you know, when you you know, listening to the quarterbacks, 225 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: listening to DaShan and Jacobe Um and then coach cav 226 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: and a VP all those guys talk, um, you know, 227 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: you're understanding that they see the game very similar to you. 228 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: And you know, Okay, this is the coverage that they're in. 229 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: This is the weakness of the coverage. You know, let's 230 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: get our let's get our athletes the ball in space, 231 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: or let's get you know, how can we attack this 232 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: coverage or whatever. So the same thing that we're doing 233 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: on defense, Like, you know, we understand that this is 234 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: a courage that we're running. This is the weakness of it. 235 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: So the ball most likely is going to be going there. 236 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: You know, we have to be ready to attack before 237 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: they before they attacked us. And those are some great, 238 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: great meetings, man. I enjoyed that. It was really like 239 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: I been invaluable for me. I bet that was fun. 240 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: I bet it was great for them too, because they 241 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: in real time could say, Hey, if we come out 242 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: in this formation and do this shift you as the mic, 243 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: how are you reacting to that? You know? So I 244 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: bet the responsack and forth in that regard, yeah, no doubt, 245 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, just like you said, just that that back 246 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: and forth, that that that football dialogue that you you know, 247 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: it's just invaluable. You you never take that for granted. Um. 248 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that attracted me 249 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: to football. I think because at a very young age 250 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: my dad really was a big X and those guy 251 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: and I became the same way really fast. So to 252 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 1: hear it at the elite level from one of the 253 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: best and uh coach kalv Um, it's really it's really special. 254 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: So we got two new guys, uh in the coordinator ranks, 255 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: one of whom you're very familiar with and the other 256 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: one I don't know as much. If there's any history 257 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: with you got you and Jim Schwartz, but I'm sure 258 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: you get no guys who have played for him. Obviously 259 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: spent some time in Tennessee. Uh, what is are your 260 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: first impressions of Jim Schwartz and how do you see 261 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: this defense evolving? Yeah, you know, anytime a coach, you know, 262 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: comes with the decorated career that he has, you have 263 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: nothing but respect for him and what he's going to 264 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: bring to the team. Um, you know, we understand that 265 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: we we we have a lot of we have a 266 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: lot of great pieces that or great pieces that we 267 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: that we had and that we've added. And but at 268 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it doesn't matter if we 269 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: don't go out and execute the defense and you know, 270 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: do our job to help our team win. So at 271 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I talked about Super Bowl 272 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: and Championship and we understand that defense is that defense 273 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: wins championships and we have to be on our p's 274 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: and ques. This year, you obviously were around Bubba Ventrone 275 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. I got a chance. The first time that 276 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: I got to meet him, I wasn't with the Browns 277 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: yet when he his last year, I think we missed 278 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: each other by one season. What I loved talking with 279 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: him a guy who looks like he can still go 280 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: out there and play. But you know, what will he 281 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: bring to special teams, which is obviously a very valuable 282 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: piece of it. But you know, a former player, a 283 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: guy who played it in the league for a decade 284 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: because of what he's able to do on special teams 285 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: and now leading that unit somebody you knew from Indy. Yeah, 286 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: don't don't tell him that he looks like he can play. 287 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: He's definitely gonna take that to the bank. And you 288 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: know sell us that every day. So all right, I'll 289 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: keep that out of But no, man, because because Bubba 290 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: he's a great coach. Um. You know, obviously playing three 291 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: years with him in Indy, Um, you know the importance 292 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: of special teams and the way that they changed the game. 293 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: Um you talk about New England, Um, you know, and 294 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: how he was able to you know, play half such 295 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: a long career. But I mean, if you talk about 296 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, winning way and you know the winning culture 297 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: that New England had, Um, I means that Kobe's always 298 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: messed around and say like, uh, you know, they didn't 299 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: always win games because Tom Brady. Don't get me wrong, now, 300 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: he won a lot of those games. But there are 301 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: a couple of games each year where the special teams 302 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: made made a play a block punt here, or kickoff 303 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: return touchdown or return touchdown, or you know, some plays 304 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: by the defense as well. So you put yourself in 305 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: a in a special position when you can win three 306 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: or four games, and you know, obviously in the playoffs 307 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: that comes down to it as well. But when you 308 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: can make a couple of plays, game changing, season changing 309 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: plays on special teams, and that's what Bubba brains um, 310 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, known for having a very elite special teams unit, 311 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: very physical. Um let him tell you here, run through 312 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: a wall right now. I think he tried to tell 313 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: us a story when I was in India. I didn't 314 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: believe him, but you know, somebody from the Browns organization 315 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: kind of confirmed it that he it was the last 316 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: game of the season that he broke his finger and 317 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: he told him to cut it off so he can 318 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: go back in I told him. I thought he was 319 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: just joking, but I guess it was true. He's like 320 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: Ronnie Lott. Unbelievable story from Anthony Walker Junior. Our guests 321 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: right now, back with the browns ay walk. When you 322 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: when you're a linebacker and you see your team go 323 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: out and get a Dallvin Tomlinson, a three hundred twenty 324 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: plus pounder who can get after the quarterback, who can 325 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: play the run. What does that do for your unit 326 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: at the second level? Yeah, I think you you put 327 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: yourself in a position um to be to be very successful. Um. 328 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: You know that attacking style that coach Shorts like to run. Um. 329 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: You add the pieces that we had that we've added. Um. 330 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: Like you said, you talked about a guy like dt 331 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: Um obviously a guy that we had like Miles and 332 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: uh double O seven is what he called calling himself 333 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: with new number seven. Now like that some good pieces. 334 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: You you know you got the linebacker room. You know 335 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: we're we got we still have some you know, work 336 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: to do in there as far as us getting ourselves right. 337 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: You know a lot of guys coming back from injury. UM, 338 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: and we have to take that next step as a unit. 339 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: And that starts with me ourself as well, um, you know, 340 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: taking that next step. Um, you know, as a as 341 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: a player, as a leader, and all that stuff. So UM, 342 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 1: I think we put ourselves in a good position though, 343 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: And I think with that distance, like like you said, 344 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: we added all that stuff. It sounds really really great, 345 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: it looks really really great. Um, But at the end 346 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: of the day, we got to put the work in 347 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: as a unit, as a team, um, each each position group, 348 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: we all got to put the work in and um, 349 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, and when and that when that time come, um, 350 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: and we got to be ready to go. Um. I 351 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: think we put ourselves, Like I said, we put ourselves 352 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: in a good position, you know, on both sides of 353 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: the ball, um, you know, offensive, defensively, special teams. I 354 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: think we've added some great pieces, but we still got 355 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: to go out there and get it done. And um, 356 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: that's that's kind of my focus right now. I love 357 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: the pieces, don't get me wrong, But the work has 358 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: to be done. The work's got to be done, and 359 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 1: then the key is the execution and part of that 360 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: is being sound. And you know, last year we had 361 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: a problem with that, right, we had a problem with 362 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: being sound. And I think it became even more exacerbated 363 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: when you went out of the lineup. But you know, 364 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: when you think about your defense as an Indie, which 365 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: were some of the best in the league at that time, 366 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: they were just sound. How do we get this defense 367 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: to be more sound? And I know that's something I'm 368 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: sure Jim Schwartz is gonna work on and you and 369 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: all the guys are going to take accountability to get 370 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: to get tidied up. But you know, if we can 371 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: eliminate what you'd call kind of you know, those catastrophic mistakes, 372 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: this has got a chance to be a very very 373 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: special defense. Yeah, I think any every team goes in 374 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: and the season and before every game it says we're 375 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: not going to beat ourselves, you know, and that's the 376 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: ultimate I mean, at the end of the day, it's 377 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: hard enough to go. I remember, you know, Coase Frank 378 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: saying that if you if you, if you don't beat 379 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: yourself and you don't you know, turn the ball over, 380 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: you don't get penalties and all that stuff, you give 381 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: yourself a good shot to go eight and eight, right, 382 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: And this was when the sixteen game season. You give 383 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: yourself a shot to go eight and eight. And then 384 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: if you make some plays and all that. Now, you 385 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: guys started to beat tennis six eleven and five and 386 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: all that stuff. So you don't want to beat yourself 387 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: because when that's you lose games already, you know, and 388 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: the most teams in the NFL, you don't really win 389 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: the game. You just you lose games before you win them. 390 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to do that. So defensively, 391 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,239 Speaker 1: we got to be sounding everything that we do, and 392 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: that's tackling. That's the fundamentals of the game. That's tackling, 393 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: not jumping off side, being in the purpose spot for 394 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: coverage and all that stuff, and just make plays. I 395 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: think we have the the guys to make plays now 396 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: is just doing it every time and being fundamentally sound. 397 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: And then's the NFL guys are gonna make plays on 398 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: us as well. But I think if we can do it, 399 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, better than we have in the past. Um, 400 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: I think we have a chance to be an elite defense. 401 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: But again it starts with not beating ourselves. How are 402 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: you physically? Are you ready to go? Are you gonna 403 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: be able to do the whole offseason program? We'll see, 404 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm turning in the right direction. You know we'll see 405 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: the plan that you know the training staff has for 406 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: me as far as getting ready to go. But at 407 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know we want to 408 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 1: be ready to go in September, so um, you know, 409 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: but I will be full go for training camp for sure. 410 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: Perfect dude, A walk. It is always a pleasure to 411 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: see you enjoy your time down in Miami training. Give 412 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: m Jammerson our regards as well, and just fantastic news 413 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: that you are back with the Browns. In many ways, 414 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: you feel like the heart and soul of that side 415 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: of the football. And you could tell from the respect 416 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: of your teammates the respect of our fans. You know 417 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: that everybody has thrilled that you're at Cleveland Brown once again. 418 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: So concrats welcome back and can't wait to see it 419 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: back out on the field and making plays that hopefully 420 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: can lead this team, like you said, to the playoffs, 421 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl to winning the ultimate prize in 422 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: the sport, No no doubt. MC guardpre said, you guys 423 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: having me, you got it man. The great Anthony Walker 424 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: Junior Brown's linebacker back for year three and I think 425 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: an important signing the Browns made a lot of you 426 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: know what I would call re signings in this free 427 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: agency period postic a walk taki taki. I think they're 428 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: all important, and I love getting a walk back just 429 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: I think a leader on the deef. I think you 430 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: saw how much it hurt our defense when he was 431 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: out last year. I know that he's working his butt 432 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: off to get back, and I think it's gonna be it. 433 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: It's exciting to have him back. I think that I 434 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: speak for all Bronze fans when I say we're all 435 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: happy that Anthony Walker Jr. Is backbe because he's a 436 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: guy that he does it the right way every single time. 437 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: He's a good leader, he's accountable, he plays hard, and 438 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: he plays well. He was one of the highest graded 439 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: linebackers in football prior to his injury last year, and 440 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 1: it's just I think it was very unfortunate for him 441 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: and also then for the Cleveland Browns when he went down. 442 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: I will not forget last year. He goes down and 443 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: on Monday you said it on this show, like not 444 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: sure this team can overcome this loss. This is gonna 445 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: be one of the toughest injuries to overcome because what 446 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: he means to the team in the locker room. Yeah, 447 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: and on the football field, Yeah, it's true. And I 448 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: think that you know, he talked about, you know, his 449 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: annoying little brother, Jeremia Husu Coumoa. It took Jok a 450 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: few games and in fact really more until kind of 451 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: like Dion Jones got in the mix for him to 452 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: get his level of playback up, because they was so 453 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: instrumental in helping him see the right things when they 454 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: were on the field together. But I think it's great 455 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: that Anthony Walker Junior is back. It sounds like, you know, 456 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: for sure full go for training camp. We'll see about 457 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: the offseason. Look, get the guy ready for September. That's 458 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: what I care about. We need him when we're playing games. 459 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: But you know, for Jason Tarver to have that room 460 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: back is a certainly a pretty cool thing there for 461 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: Anthony Walker Junior and for the Cleveland Browns. All Right, 462 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: when we come back here on the show, we're going 463 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: to have the news of the day. We'll talk a 464 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: little bit about WrestleMania. That's where I'm going as well 465 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: tomorrow down to La see the miss for Little WrestleMania, 466 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: which is gonna be a lot of fun. We also 467 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: have from the owners meeting, some big news coming around 468 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: about the league, some rule changes, and then also something 469 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: that they will not be doing, which I loved Roger 470 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: Goodell dropping that. And then two o'clock hour, we're joined 471 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: live in studio by ti Vis Powell. So we got 472 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: a lot coming your way, all right. Cleveland Brown's Daily 473 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: brought to you by Bally Bet Coming soon to Ohio. 474 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Beck, Coming 475 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 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First 483 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: time that I think I've ever seen that this or 484 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: heard that he was able to sit in on offensive 485 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: meetings learn more about that side of the ball, so 486 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: give some real time feedback to them from a defensive 487 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: linebacker's perspective. I thought that was pretty cool. I thought 488 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: that was really eye opening. Yeah, And I mean I 489 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: don't know if it was because he was hurt or not, 490 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: but I mean players crave information. I mean, it's it's 491 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: it's why you have the analytics, it's why you know, 492 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: you watch and study tape, you look for every advantage 493 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: that you can get, and why not and why not 494 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: sit in on some of the offensive meetings. I don't 495 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: think it's a bad thing at all. Like the more 496 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: both sides can know about one another, the better prepared 497 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: you'll be when you face another team exactly. And I 498 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: just think I thought it was very cool to hear 499 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: that and to get to learn that. I still think, 500 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, you look at this defense, I think the 501 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: strength is the cornerback room. I like the secondary in general. 502 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: I think the starting five, to your point, is very 503 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: good there. But you got Miles Now, you got Dalvin Thompson, 504 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: You've got double O seven up front, and you've got 505 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: a complete linebacker room that if you don't lose four 506 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: of them is going to be in good shape even 507 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: if there is an injury or two. I think this 508 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: defense has a chance to be very good. So I 509 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: talked to him about being sound. Why this team, if 510 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: they are sound, we are going to be tough to beat. 511 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: If we do not give up easy chunk plays, we're 512 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: gonna be We're gonna be tough or be tough to 513 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: move the football on because we should be stouter against 514 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: the run. We can cover, and we can get out 515 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: of the quarterback. And that's those are the three ingredients, absolutely, 516 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: And I think that defensively, Remember last year at this time, 517 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: everybody kept saying they're gonna be the best defense, like 518 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: they're they're one of the top NFL defenses. There's not 519 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: that rhetoric right now. It's a show me to take 520 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: a page out of my book. You gotta show me. 521 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: And well, I mean, I think everybody in that locker 522 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: room on that side of the ball knows that and 523 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: understands that. I think that's fair and I think that 524 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: right if this team wants to do what we all 525 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: want it to do, it's not going to be just that. 526 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson has recaptured the form of how good he 527 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: was when he was with Houston Texan and the glimpses 528 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: that we saw in those six games last year, it's 529 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: that we're a complete football team that they are going 530 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: to be games where our offense is going to be 531 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: in a shootout. There'll be games where the offense, you know, 532 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 1: needs a defense come up with a stop here or there, 533 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: and they do. There'll be games with the defense. Wednesday 534 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: talked about New England games where special teams with Bubba Ventrone, 535 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: they make a play that helps us win it. So 536 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: this is we have a chance to be a very 537 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: complete football team, and a walk I think really hit 538 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: the nail on the head your correct, Gibbites. Is my 539 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: last day this week. I head to la for Russell 540 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: Mania tomorrow. What's the weather like? They're terrible right now, 541 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: rainy everywhere. My one buddy just got back from Vegas. 542 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: He said it was thirty six degrees when he took 543 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: off on Monday morning. So while we're there, like tomorrow, 544 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: it's going to rain in the morning, but then be 545 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: nice in the afternoon. Hopefully get to chase a small 546 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: ball around with my guy. And then Friday, Saturday, Sunday 547 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: or sunny, no rain, and then Monday sunny and maybe 548 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of maybe a little bit of rain there, 549 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: but we have like the whole day and then we're 550 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: taking you know the Red Eyebacks. We'll have Monday to 551 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: go out there. I think Miss Kay wants us to 552 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: go to Sir, which is the restaurant on from Vanderpump Rules, 553 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: to see if we can see any shenanigans. I mean, 554 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: all right, why not. If you're coming to see some wrestling, 555 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: you get them. You get to call some shots as well. 556 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: So will you be ringside? Will we see you ringside? 557 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: I don't believe. So, I don't believe. So not this 558 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: here because Mike. That would happen if if miss had 559 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: a match, but he does not have him. He's he's 560 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: the host of WrestleMania. So maybe there's a segment that 561 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: we might get to go down there for. But my 562 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: guess is probably not. Okay, what what do you mean 563 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: by he's the host? He's the host of WrestleMania. That's 564 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: kind of the role that they have that they've put 565 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: him in. He's the wrestle the host. So he'll come 566 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: come out. I'm sure he'll be the first person to 567 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: come out and introduce a welcome people to WrestleMania. I'm 568 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: sure he'll end up having some type of a thing 569 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: with some legends, so he'll kind of be woven throughout 570 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: the show, would be my guess. So it's good to 571 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: go a good way for him to stay in a 572 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: Marquis spot even though he's not necessarily a Marquis match, gotcha. Yeah, 573 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: well that sucks he's not actually wrestling. Yeah, I mean, 574 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: is he bummed by that? I think that because he 575 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: still gets to be like, he's been heavily featured in 576 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: the promotion, he's had big stuff leading up, He's gonna 577 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,239 Speaker 1: have big stuff at the show, and he doesn't have 578 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: to take any bumps. I'm sure I'll take a bump 579 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: or two, but he's probably thrilled with that. Yeah. Yeah, 580 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: so what what is the And I saw the WWE 581 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Raymi Stereo yea, the Great Mudah yep, 582 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: Stacy Keibler, the Roadman, Kenny Roda maybe the favorite, his 583 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: favorite actress of all time. I once broke bread with 584 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: her in Vegas. She came down to the w K 585 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: and our studios and brovu heights, O man, and I 586 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: was like, Kenny gonna let her leave, very very kind, lady, 587 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: unbelievable nice. Yeah, she's the first person. Uh she introduced 588 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 1: ke Keenwa to me. Really Yeah, we went out at 589 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: the restaurant were at in. I guess they had a 590 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: keen was spaghetti and she got that. I'm like, what 591 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: is Keenowa? And then so she told me very kind 592 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: Andy Kaufman also going in r I P. But yes, 593 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: if I told my friends, I said, if he was 594 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: going in for real, if he was with us, I 595 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: would I would do it. I would, I would go 596 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: check that out. But now we're gonna have plenty of 597 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: stuff to do. How many? Um? What is the number 598 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: of in the delegation coming from Cleveland? Is it? The 599 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: whole crew is normal? No, not the whole crew, a 600 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: little smaller Me and the big daddy Scotty Monica a 601 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: little smaller. I think building new a new babies in 602 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: the mix. It's la. It is a far away to go, 603 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: so I think it's just gonna be us. And then 604 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: Vince is coming up because he lives in Cali, so 605 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be great. I can't wait for it. It's 606 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: two days. This will be my first two day Mania 607 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: that I've actually been to, which again to me, is 608 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: too much. I'd like one day. But they've got a 609 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: lot of great matches. Roman reigns against Cody Rhodes is 610 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: the Big is the main event for the Universal Championship. 611 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: You've got two great women's championships, Charlotte Flair vers Ria Ripley, 612 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: Bianca Belair versus Osca, the tag Ti titles, the USO's 613 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: against Sammy's and Kevin Owens, which has been part of 614 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: really the best story there has been in the w W. 615 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: Brock Lesner versus the Giant almost which I don't know 616 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: about that one seth Rollins versus Logan Paul That'll be awesome. 617 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: Austin Theory versus John Cena for the United State Championship, 618 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: that will be awesome. Becky Lynch Lada and Trish Stratus 619 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: Tris Stratus is Wrestling, which is gonna be that I'm 620 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: in in Edge against Finn Balor and a Helen a Cell. 621 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: That will be awesome. That's a lot of a lot 622 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: of stuff. It's a two day but like like you 623 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: and I were talking about off the Area yesterday, I mean, 624 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: if you're able to sell out a football stadium two 625 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: consecutive nights, yeah, that's why they do it. And then 626 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: Raymisterio versus his son at WrestleMania, Like that's pretty cool. 627 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: Regardless of if you think it's gonna be the biggest 628 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: match ever or whatever, it's gonna be pretty cool to see, 629 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: like for raymis Stereo and probably one of his last 630 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: matches to get to wrestle his son at Rustlemania, Like 631 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: that's that's pretty incredible. So now, how close are you 632 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: to the stadium? Knowing what a pain it is to 633 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: get in and out of that area? I think we're 634 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: staying at where where we where we stayed? Downtown? Yeah? Yeah, 635 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: we're at the Yeah, we're downtown. No police escort. Yeah, 636 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: and normally there's buses that take us and we're not 637 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: sure on how that's all gonna work out, but it's 638 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: gonna be fine. I mean, we're gonna we'll get there. 639 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: We'll be It's all about the journey, you know, it's 640 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: the experience. It's got to be patient, patient, have a 641 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: lot of booze. Oh yeah, Vince Sanity's already like he's 642 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: basically bringing us. Is the lady coming? His lady? Yeah? 643 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: His lady? And then is this her first Rustlemania? Oh yeah, 644 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: so's it'll be Miss Kay comes in on Friday. I 645 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: go Thursday, Vince comes up Thursday, and then and Scotti's there, 646 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: and then we'll have Friday, Miss Kay comes in and 647 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: then Saturday, Vince's wife comes in along with his daughter 648 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: and one of her friends. So I told Vince that 649 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: you or to get it all you gotta. You're gonna 650 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: have to be the two vinces. So you're gonna have 651 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: to be a little bit better behavior come the weekend. 652 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: So you m get after it the first few days 653 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: just a little bit. Yeah. So does Scottie play golf? No? No, 654 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: I think both he and Scottie are more hoping to 655 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: run around and just yeah, just go ahead and be 656 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: in the carts and talk trash and enjoy themselves. Fair, Yeah, 657 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: totally mean, if that's how you want to play it, 658 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: that's fine, totally fair. Yeah. Indeed, indeed, all right, all right, 659 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: still to come, we're gonna get you latest from the 660 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: owner's meetings. As you can see to my left though, 661 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: I mean again, it's beautiful, it's spectacular. It's the Brownstown 662 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: Napa Valley. It's the official wine brand and wine club 663 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Browns. 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We might 682 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: take some calls if you can bring to Are you 683 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: sure this guy? You gotta stream them and if they're good, Yeah, 684 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: just let's have some fun. I don't mind. I might 685 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: give them, the people a little bit of a voice, 686 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: and what will beyond you can you can ask tis 687 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: some questions. There you go, folks call here all right, 688 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: buckle up. You know, we'll see how long we can 689 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: actually go. If we make it two drinking I was 690 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: gonna say, if we make it through two calls, Gibbs 691 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: without you know, using the dump button, we're gonna be 692 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: thrilled over here, exactly. Yes, it's gonna be fine. There 693 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: will be no dumb button. I am counting on all 694 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: of you out there. Okay, be on your best behavior 695 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: and we can have fun with this. Otherwise we shut 696 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: it down. So it's on you. How good you want 697 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: this to be, how much fun you want to have. 698 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: That's what we'll do. 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Slash tickets 707 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: are called four four oh eight nine one fifty fifty. 708 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: That's four four oh eight nine one five zero five 709 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: zero to reserve your spot to day. From the owners meetings, 710 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: first of all, the one thing that Roger Goodell said 711 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: that I was the most pumped about the NFL is 712 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: not even considering neutral site games for the AFC NNFC championships. Said, 713 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: they're not They've never even looked at it. There's never 714 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: been a discussion about it. Well, there was a lot 715 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: of people saying that was a discussion last year. But 716 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: the net net is and the good news not happening. 717 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: It was one of the few things that the commissioner 718 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:55,919 Speaker 1: and the crew got right yesterday. There weren't many that were. 719 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: They got a few things they needed to get right. 720 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: There's a couple of things that have the owners in 721 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of a tiff, and I don't blame them, 722 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: but yeah, good, AFC NFC championship games should be at home. 723 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: That's right, that's super Bowl neutral site great. It is 724 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: the best thing that you can have. If you are 725 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: you should be rewarded if you are right, as as 726 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: a fan of a team that is the biggest game 727 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: that you can have right now is to host the 728 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: AFC ORFC championship game. Absolutely, absolutely, I think it's I'm 729 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: so happy about that. The NFL also will take up 730 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 1: the discussion of flex scheduling for Thursday Night football again 731 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: in May, after not having the votes to approve the league' 732 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: proposed measure Tuesday good It's ridiculous. This is the one 733 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: that the league wants the leeway to move late season 734 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: games from a Sunday to Thursday with a fifteen day 735 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: advanced notice to assure better matches for Amazon. Giants co 736 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: owner John Mayer sounded off at the meaning, called the 737 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: proposal really inconsiderate to our season ticket holders and abusive. Yes, 738 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: that's exactly right. Yeah good Goodell came back and he 739 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,919 Speaker 1: was like, we don't think that at all. Like we're 740 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: trying to make the products like more consumable, not just 741 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: for in stadium, but we have millions of people watching 742 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 1: every week. And I'm like, well, that's fine and dandy, 743 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: make the Amazon schedule better right from the get go. Yep, 744 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: if we're gonna do this, yeah, then do that. What 745 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: we do not need to flex Thursday night games. No, 746 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: it's outrageous, awful, and I mean, you're it's a burden 747 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: for people that are flying to go see their team 748 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: on the road. Like what if you had tickets for 749 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: a Sunday game and they're like, well, it's fifteen days notice. Well, 750 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: but like I can't take Thursday and Friday off or 751 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: Wednesday off to fly, like my flights Friday to Monday 752 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,439 Speaker 1: to go see my favorite team on the road. Like, yes, 753 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: it's doing here. Yeah, people travel the game. Yeah, it's 754 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 1: totally inconsiderate. He's exactly right, it's awful. I also don't 755 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: love the fact that they said owners approved that allow 756 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,240 Speaker 1: teams to play on two short weeks during the season. 757 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean team to play two Thursday night games on 758 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: short rest during the twenty twenty three season. I do 759 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,720 Speaker 1: not need two Thursday night games in my wheelhouse. Although 760 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: you know what, I would take two Thursday games and 761 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: no Monday night games. Yeah, Monday nights are the worst. Yeah, 762 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 1: Thursdays aren't bad for us. It's a quick turnaround. Yeah, 763 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: bad for the play it's not ideal for us, but 764 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: we make it work. Yeah yeah, not great, No, not great. 765 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: At all uh NF twenty five NFL teams. That was 766 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: adopted today one preseason cut down date this year, it'll 767 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: be August twenty nine. I think that's fine. I think 768 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: that's huge. Yeah, for guys trying to make the roster. 769 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 1: I mean it also might mean that we're going to 770 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 1: see even less of the impact guys and the starters 771 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: in the preseason if you're if you've got ninety guys 772 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: on your roster. Still, yeah, that's not ideal. But I 773 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: mean I didn't I didn't think that was a bad thing. 774 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think that. Yeah. I think 775 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: it's it's just it's cleaner. It's just everybody gets to 776 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: be available, and then you make it cut down and 777 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: then that's it. So I think you're fine with that. 778 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: Detroit's proposal bringing back the third quarterback rule was tabled. 779 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: Rich McKay said some debate about whether that player could 780 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,919 Speaker 1: be a practic squad player only an active roster player 781 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: to dress on game day with a roster exemption. I 782 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 1: think you gotta have it. You can't have what happened 783 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game, correct, You just can't have that. 784 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: You can't have it. No so is it really that 785 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: big a deal, Figure it out right, come up with 786 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: some I'm surprised there wasn't more of a pushback there 787 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: for that. I agree with you. I would think that 788 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: everybody would want that. Yeah, and they'll probably say, well, 789 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: if you want that, have three quarterbacks active on game 790 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: day and you can do it. Um. Yeah, I don't know. 791 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: It feels like it's just an easy one, and that 792 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: one that makes a ton of sense around the league. 793 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: Clais Campbell has signed with the Falcons, and Calvin Ridley, 794 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: a former Falcon, becomes the first NFL player to take 795 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: advantage of the new rule and where the number zero 796 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: in his return to action with the Jags. I'm a 797 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,720 Speaker 1: big Calvin Ridley fan. I think he's a very good player, 798 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: and I think that he has an opportunity to have 799 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: a monster year with Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence is gonna 800 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: have a going back to Calais Campbell. Yep, you're signing 801 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 1: all these players, You're putting all this money into your team. 802 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: You got a good defense, now you got some playmakers 803 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: on offense. I can someone explain to me? And I 804 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,240 Speaker 1: know Arthur Blank tried to yesterday. Maybe not so great. 805 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 1: Can someone please get through to them and go, why 806 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 1: don't you go take a flyer? In a meeting with 807 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Well, you think maybe Clays Campbell says that, 808 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 1: but Clais Campbell is at the end of his career, 809 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: and this feels very much like a win now. Sure, 810 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: but like they go, get eights. You know, you've got 811 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: a good running game. You've got you've got some playmakers 812 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: at wide receiver, you got pits at tight end, you 813 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: got a division that's very very winnable. Go get Lamar. Yep, yep, yep. 814 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: I mean, and for Lamar it makes sense. It just 815 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 1: feels pretty clear that you've got a situation where you 816 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: have the NFL is basically telling Lamar Jackson, for the 817 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: reasons that we laid out, that we think you are 818 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: top half of the league quarterback, but we're not ready 819 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: to mortgage our future for you because we feel like 820 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: it is an unreliable proposal due to injury concerns and 821 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: then pocket passing concerns, just straight up. And all those teams, 822 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: by the way, Atlanta for example, Carolina for example, teams 823 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: that have said they're not out that are out on him, 824 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: that would have had the ability to get him. All 825 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: went after Deshaun Watson. So the league clearly views Deshaun 826 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: Watson is significantly better than Lamar Jack. I think that 827 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: is an easy takeaway from everything that's going. Yes, yes, 828 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: I get I get that. He won an MVP, it 829 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: was in twenty nineteen. He's one in three in the playoffs. 830 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: He's played one game in December in two in the 831 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:26,760 Speaker 1: last three seasons. Yeah, like, you got to be available. Yeah, 832 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: that's That's where I'm at. You got you got to 833 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: take care of your business on this, and I think 834 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,240 Speaker 1: I think Lamar might have. He's got unrealistic expectations, clearly 835 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,240 Speaker 1: because no one in the league wants to go anywhere 836 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: near it. Right The Ravens have made you a very 837 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: fair offer, guaranteed you one hundred and thirty million. It 838 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: wasn't good enough for you, Okay, Well, well, I mean 839 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you here. He's that 840 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: gonna get it when you let the market set your value, 841 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: the market sets your value. So I've it is it 842 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: is a very difficult situation for him right now, and 843 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: that I'm curious sew this ultimately all plays out. That'll 844 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. All right when we come 845 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: Oh not yet, we sha we take a quick break 846 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: into another quick one, or do you I did? Did 847 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: you look at these other rules? I printed out everything 848 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: that got approved. Yep. Um. There were a couple other 849 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: little things that h The penalty for tripping is now 850 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: a personal fall. Yeah, I see that. That was That 851 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: one's interesting to me. I mean the illegal forward pass 852 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: I get. I don't even understand what illegally handling the 853 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: ball forward means. It's a forward pass, is it not. No, 854 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: it says to make penalty for legally handing the ball 855 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: forward consistent with other illegal acts such as illegal forward pass. 856 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 1: So I don't know what that means illegally handling the 857 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: butt forward. Um. They change the definition of launching to 858 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: leaving with one or both feet and aren't okay. The 859 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 1: Competition Committee the claiming period to Monday for players who 860 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: are waived on Friday and Saturday. That's great because it 861 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 1: used to be Tuesday for every everybody. So you can 862 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:31,839 Speaker 1: get guys in your building. Quicker. Yeah, interesting, I like that. Yeah, 863 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: let them get in there, get in the building, quicker. 864 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,720 Speaker 1: There's tivs who's gonna be joining us? Adjust the rules 865 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,760 Speaker 1: for postseason signings to account for standard elevations, rule freeze 866 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: postseason rosters at four pm on the Wednesday following the 867 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: last week of the regular season. Yeah. Yeah, what does 868 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: this mean by the Chargers to provide greater clarity as 869 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: to a player's availability for a game? What does that mean? 870 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: I had no idea on that one. We don't know. 871 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: We don't have a clue. Some of these make absolutely 872 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: no sense. Yeah, and if that's how you're wording, I 873 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: mean this, this is the official memo that came out 874 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:17,359 Speaker 1: from the league. So I know some of these hit 875 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: or miss, but I thought the fact that tripping is 876 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: now a personal fill I guess. You know. We get 877 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: a video at the start of the year from the 878 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: league with how they're gonna what they define as a 879 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: penalty and what's not. So hopefully we'll get some clarity 880 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 1: on some of these. Yeah, some of these like rules, rules, procedures, procedures. 881 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: There it is. Yeah, all right, that's our first hour, 882 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: second hour, TI vis Powell in studio. That's coming up 883 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: next when Cleon Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally 884 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: Bett returns. Cleveland Brown's Daily brought to you by Balley 885 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: be coming Soon to Ohio on a fifty ESPN Cleveland Alright, 886 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: hour number two of Cleveland Brown's Daily brought to you 887 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: by Bally Bet Coming Soon to Ohio and what a 888 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: treat Joined in studio Ohio State Legends, the great tithis Powell, 889 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: oh Man, I don't legend is don't come. That's a lot, 890 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: That's a lot. I was just former Ohio State buck eyes. 891 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: How I go down days? You know you don't want 892 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: any adjective now for state by great? No, no, no, no, 893 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm just a local high school legend. No, I'm just 894 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: a yeah, I'm just the guy. Now. You know those 895 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: days were great when they lasted. But now I'm in 896 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 1: the You're sending media ascending me superstar, trying that I'm 897 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: trying to you know, I'm trying to be like Nathan. 898 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 1: You know, I wake up in the morning and I 899 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: looked myself in the mirror and I say, how can 900 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: I be like Nathan Ziger? Got a lot less athletic. 901 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: That would be the first thing that you'd have to do. 902 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 1: That'd be the first thing the way to start. Well, dude, 903 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: this is a treat. I'm excited because we crossed paths 904 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 1: all the time, but we don't get to do it together. 905 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: So this will be this will be a lot of 906 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 1: fun chopping it up today. All right, let's just kind 907 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: of start with, you know, your thoughts overall offseason. What 908 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: Andrew Berry has been able to do with this roster. Well, 909 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, I thought that this, you know, it wasn't 910 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: a roster thing. I think the biggest moves that they 911 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: made this off season was the coaching changes that they made. 912 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 1: You know, obviously, you know the defense, you know, with 913 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 1: the mile with not with the Miles, with the jadeveon clowning, 914 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: sitting out first and second downs and all of that fiasco, 915 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 1: and just the way that the defense play. You kind 916 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: of feel like, you know, Joe Woods maybe lost the 917 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: post of that team a little bit. And then special teams. 918 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 1: You know, obviously that thing has been hit or miss. 919 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: You've had some good returns, but it hasn't never been 920 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: that solid unit like it once was before. So I 921 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: think getting those two coaches in there, you know, getting 922 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: Gym Swartz in there, the guy that's gonna hold guys accountable. 923 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna change the culture of that defense and have 924 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: these guys going out there ready to play day in 925 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: and day out, and then on special teams. You know, 926 00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: to me, when I looked at it, it was just 927 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 1: like a play, you know, And that's certain guys get 928 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: to the NFL and they look at it like, oh, 929 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: special teams is just one play. But then there's those 930 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: guys who make their living off of special teams. And 931 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: I think the Browns have addressed that by going to 932 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: get Bubba Ventrone in there, who got just that exactly 933 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,720 Speaker 1: made his career. So he's gonna look at special teams 934 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: totally different, and he's gonna instill that mindset in these 935 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: players like this ain't just no play. This is the 936 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: play that can change the game. And then you see 937 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 1: them go out there and get some of these free 938 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 1: agent acquisitions, you know, the Mike Fords, the Matthew Adams, 939 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 1: those guys that actually have made their niche in the 940 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 1: NFL by doing special teams. So I think those two 941 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: hits right there, as far as coaching goals, have been 942 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: a huge and it's gonna make a huge impact next year. 943 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about that a little bit. 944 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: Because you hit on something there where you felt like, 945 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: as somebody who played play in this league, that you saw, 946 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,399 Speaker 1: you know, perhaps that Joe Woods had lost the post. 947 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: So I want to ask you from a player perspective, 948 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,879 Speaker 1: because I think if we all said, what was the 949 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 1: biggest issue with the Browns defense last year? Blown coverages? Yeah, right, 950 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: ye know that in the in the run, in the 951 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 1: obviously stopping the run. But we're gonna start with that. 952 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 1: Start with Joe Woods is not designing coverages that are faulty, right, right, 953 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 1: and he's not playing correct. So how does that when 954 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: you say they lost locker room? How do you how 955 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 1: do you balance that something's getting lost in translation because 956 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: if it happens repeatedly or the players are not being 957 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 1: diligent and what they were, like, how do you get 958 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: to that situation? So so I fought that back and 959 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 1: forth last year, and I did. I tried to explain 960 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: that a lot, you know, because obviously I was so 961 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: familiar with the you know, the defense that they were 962 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: running because I ran it in the NFL for many 963 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: many years. So when I seen certain things, I was 964 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 1: able to say, oh, I know exactly what mistake they 965 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 1: made there. Like let's take the Carolina game. You know 966 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: they leave Robbie Anderson wide open. Well, what happened is 967 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 1: they were in the coverage that we called They called 968 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: it mixed, we called it reno whatever, it's the same thing. 969 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,280 Speaker 1: And what happened is the only activation during slot sets. 970 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 1: So you gotta that slot sets for those that don't know, 971 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 1: is when you have a tight end on the clothes side, 972 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: So you got a nub tight end, meaning nobody is 973 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 1: outside of him, and you got the other two wide 974 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: receivers on the single side, so you got one two, 975 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: one in the outside, two in the slot traps, right, 976 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 1: so you get that set. Staff activates, mix areno whatever 977 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:19,880 Speaker 1: they wanted to call it. So what that means is 978 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 1: the corner on the backside that's to the nub side 979 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: tight end, he's gonna man his guy. He's got him 980 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 1: wherever he goes. On the front side, every coverage gets 981 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 1: pushed over. So now you got the outside corner who's 982 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 1: gonna take If the number two was to run like 983 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 1: a bubble a bubble route, which is like right now 984 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,399 Speaker 1: to the sideline, then that corner outside corner is gonna 985 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: trigger on that and he's gonna come down and make 986 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 1: the play. That's essentially taking away bubbles, and then that's safety. 987 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 1: That's in the back. He's about twelve yards deep. He's 988 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: gonna go over the top of Number one. You're protected 989 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: on any inward breaking route because you got the linebackers 990 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: sitting right there and you got your post safety. That's 991 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 1: looking specifically for post routes are over routes, he's gonna 992 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 1: take those. So what happened in that situation in the 993 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,959 Speaker 1: Carolina game is at a certain yard marker is where 994 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 1: you have to you have to lock the thing up. 995 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 1: Some people is ten, it might be twelve, it might 996 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: be eight. I don't know specifically what it is. When 997 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 1: I played, it was ten yards. So so the corner. 998 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 1: So so say that the guy runs, let's say number 999 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: two goes vertical and then he runs a ten yard out, 1000 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,359 Speaker 1: which is what he did, So that outside corner does 1001 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,839 Speaker 1: he take that or does he stay on number one? 1002 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,439 Speaker 1: That was what the thing is. He decided they both 1003 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,800 Speaker 1: decided to take number the outward breaking a route, leaving 1004 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: Number one wide open on that post. Granted, you still 1005 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,919 Speaker 1: should have a post safety, but you should never ever 1006 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: cut a guy loose. So I think the problem is 1007 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: it was great area there. So what we did when 1008 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,280 Speaker 1: we had those mistakes when I played was if number 1009 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: two don't cross right now, didn't lock it for the 1010 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,440 Speaker 1: rest of the play. And I think that's some adjustments 1011 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,760 Speaker 1: that they could have made. They should have made, don't 1012 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 1: know if they did, but that's how you would address it, 1013 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,719 Speaker 1: and that's how you can call some confusion. Yeah, so 1014 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: I was a lot. I'll apologized, that was all right, 1015 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,439 Speaker 1: But but you had that play exactly right. So number 1016 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: two did run a ten yard out, and in the 1017 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: way that it was designed or that it was taught 1018 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,840 Speaker 1: in this is that if number two was ten plus, 1019 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 1: then the safety had number two and that Greg would 1020 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,439 Speaker 1: then carry one. And so in that case, Greg came 1021 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 1: down as the safety and Greg should have stayed correct 1022 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 1: what she's what she said after that, But to me, 1023 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,839 Speaker 1: that's when you put kind of those yard markers on it, 1024 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 1: and that obviously in reality, what you're saying is we 1025 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 1: won't give up the vertical. If they're gonna throw it, 1026 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to make that throw far hash to 1027 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: on the out route, and that's gonna limit. You're gonna 1028 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: gain ten yards, maybe, but when we're a head by nine, matter, 1029 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 1: take your ten yards and we'll live another day. It 1030 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 1: feels like and I'm so glad you brought you. We 1031 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: got to that because as somebody who is just you know, 1032 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: might I certainly did not play the game like you. 1033 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,279 Speaker 1: I have done the best that I can to. You know, 1034 00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 1: I've been able to watch a great job. Great job, well, 1035 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: thank you. That means a lot to me to hear 1036 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 1: you say. But I'm asking. So when I hear something 1037 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: like that, I think you're right. I think it creates 1038 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: a real opportunity for confusion in the sense that if 1039 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: it's nine yards, is nine yards look like ten yards 1040 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 1: eleven yards. So it's almost like there should always be 1041 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 1: in my mind like, look, if there's a gray area, 1042 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: just stay deeper than the deep. That's right, that's what 1043 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 1: you should do. Right. If you confuse, then you don't 1044 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 1: know error on the side of giving up the short route. 1045 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 1: So both of them should have just gave up the 1046 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: little out route. We can live to see another day, 1047 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,080 Speaker 1: but you can't live. You won't last long in his 1048 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 1: league if you give us something beat, if you get 1049 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,319 Speaker 1: beat deep or give us something cheap, your career as 1050 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,759 Speaker 1: a corner will not be long in his league, right, 1051 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,240 Speaker 1: And I think Greg had a great job, a great season. Ultimately, 1052 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 1: bouncing back from that. But I think part of it 1053 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 1: too is when you have that kind of a read, 1054 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: you're thinking, oh, maybe our pressure is gonna get there. 1055 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 1: He's he's thinking he knows our rules like quarterbacks here 1056 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,879 Speaker 1: a year ago. Yeah, so he's gonna throw that out 1057 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: and maybe your you get you get greedy, You get 1058 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 1: greedy in this. But the thing is when you get 1059 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 1: things like that, for that particular that mix or that reno, 1060 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,200 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, you need to you 1061 00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: need to talk to that safety in that corner. They 1062 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,240 Speaker 1: need to have a communication. Hey, we and we're standing 1063 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 1: on the forty. If the ball is on the forty, 1064 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 1: the fifty yard line is where it's that. If he 1065 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,720 Speaker 1: goes under fifty, I'm going if not, stay with yours. 1066 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,919 Speaker 1: You need to have that type of communication to clear 1067 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,279 Speaker 1: things up because if you leave great area, then you 1068 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 1: have a confusion like that. So, like I said, that's 1069 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 1: one of those things that happened in those blown coverage. 1070 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,800 Speaker 1: The other one, the other big blown coverage was obviously 1071 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,359 Speaker 1: the Jets game to Garrett Wilson won. And the way 1072 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 1: I looked at that, when I looked at it from 1073 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 1: an outside looking the end is that Obviously, ten guys 1074 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: saw one formation, and let me explain that to me. 1075 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,760 Speaker 1: The empty check changes week to week in the NFL. 1076 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 1: So one week, your empty check might be covered too. 1077 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 1: For the next game, when you say empty check, they 1078 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: go to an empty formation. That changes your coverage. Yeah, 1079 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 1: how what are you checking? The adjustment exactly the so 1080 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 1: the way it was can The confusing part about what 1081 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,839 Speaker 1: the Jets did is that they had what we call 1082 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 1: grave diggers. These two tight ends is in a grave digger, 1083 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: meaning that they not on the ball. They off the 1084 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: ball slightly, but they're not in three point stances. They 1085 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 1: got their hands chippers. That's what they get chippers. So 1086 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,880 Speaker 1: when you look at that, some people look at that 1087 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 1: like that's empty. That might not be considered empty. Other 1088 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 1: people look at it like that's max protection. Max protection 1089 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,319 Speaker 1: means that it's deeper developed routes. You get your double moves, 1090 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: you get your face, you get your deep posts, something 1091 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 1: like that. So if you have to have the communication 1092 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: in the secondary like hey, hey they're in the grave digger, 1093 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,839 Speaker 1: we're not checking empty, this is whatever the call is, 1094 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 1: or we are running empty to this. So they needed 1095 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: to have that communication. Like I say, ten people looked 1096 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,440 Speaker 1: at it a different way. All it takes one person 1097 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 1: not to see it that way, and I think that's 1098 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,319 Speaker 1: what happened in that and that's why, you know, ten 1099 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 1: people was playing one coverage. The other guy, unfortunately, was 1100 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 1: playing something totally different than boom, you give up something beat. 1101 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: It was very unfortunate and led to one of the 1102 00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 1: more disappointed things that we've ever experience here with the 1103 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,799 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. But again that kind of goes back to 1104 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 1: what I was saying, and this is something that I 1105 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,840 Speaker 1: hope to kind of tie it all in, is the 1106 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:11,399 Speaker 1: pols A locker room. Jim Schwartz is that on some level, right, 1107 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,439 Speaker 1: you can't tolerate that anymore. And I don't care who 1108 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 1: you are, exactly what you're paid, but if you do 1109 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 1: something like that, then you're not gonna play as much. 1110 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: And then hopefully the accountability comes from making sure that 1111 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 1: we have everything, everything's laid out in a way that 1112 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,440 Speaker 1: we don't have that career, we don't have that confusion. 1113 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 1: But again, it just goes back to, you know, the 1114 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 1: situation like don't let him run by you, no matter 1115 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 1: even if you think you're supposed to be playing a 1116 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 1: cloud flat or whatever it is, and you see him 1117 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: run there, just run with him, like, what's the worst 1118 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 1: thing that happened? You would you would think, man, you know, 1119 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 1: at some point, you know, you can't be a robot 1120 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 1: in this league. You gotta be a football player. I mean, 1121 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 1: you're here on the granddaddy stage of them all. You're 1122 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 1: at the ultimate stage of football, and you're here for 1123 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 1: a reason because you've played this game. You've seen a 1124 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: lot of football, you know, in a last minute situation, 1125 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: to stay on top of every round, I don't care 1126 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,239 Speaker 1: what the call it is, I'm not giving us something deep. 1127 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: So you have at some point the players do have 1128 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: to take some responsibility on that. And even it's been 1129 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 1: times that I've even been out in huddles and the 1130 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 1: DC might have called something and we look at each 1131 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 1: other like, yeah, we're not about to run that. That's 1132 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 1: a terrible call in this situation, and we run our 1133 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 1: own thing. But as long as everybody's and we all wrong, 1134 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 1: then we all right. As long as we make the 1135 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 1: same call and we all on the same page, I 1136 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 1: think the defensive coordinator would be okay if we make 1137 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 1: it through a play, yeah, no doubt. And so I 1138 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 1: think that's one thing to clean up. You mentioned the 1139 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,920 Speaker 1: special team's unit as well, So I want to go 1140 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: back to kind of talking about what you were there 1141 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 1: and not everybody being on the same page, and that 1142 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 1: now you've got warn Juan Thornhill coming in, been a 1143 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion two times with the Kansas City Chiefs. 1144 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 1: More of a true center field free safety, and we're 1145 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 1: gonna play more middle of the field closed. So does 1146 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 1: that kind of help define everything for everybody too? When 1147 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 1: you're in more of it. It It felt to me like 1148 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 1: our bus predominantly came in split safety situations. Yeah, so 1149 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 1: what happens if you got to post safety, a true 1150 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 1: post safety and you know, I think Jame Schwartz runs 1151 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 1: a lot of three and a lot of one, so 1152 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 1: will be in a lot of post safety. Hill. Having 1153 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 1: a true post safety is you have. You can't be nosy. 1154 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 1: See I've had the privilege of being a post safety 1155 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie to y'all. It gets sometimes 1156 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 1: it's boring back there. If you got a good defense, 1157 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 1: it can get really boring in that sect, in that 1158 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 1: post because nothing's happening, So you get greedy, you get 1159 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 1: ansty It's like I want to make the plague. Yeah, 1160 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 1: I want. I want to they put that they put 1161 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: that cheese right in your face, that they put that 1162 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 1: dig in your face just so you can come up 1163 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,120 Speaker 1: and boom and they hit you to hit the post 1164 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: behind you. So if you got a true post safety 1165 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 1: that understands that my job is to be an eraser 1166 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 1: on a on a break and run, or to stop 1167 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 1: things out of the middle of the field like wine 1168 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,919 Speaker 1: Thorn Hill is, then it makes everything else good because 1169 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 1: you always know you can trust and believe that you 1170 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 1: got somebody in the post. So if I'm at corner 1171 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 1: and he runs a post, it's like, I know that 1172 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 1: one is gonna be back there. I'm not worried about 1173 00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 1: it as much because I know this thing's gonna get double. 1174 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 1: If you got a guy who's anty, you know, and 1175 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,160 Speaker 1: not to throw no shade at Jay three or anything 1176 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 1: like that, because he, to me, I think he was 1177 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 1: kind of out of place playing in the post. That 1178 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 1: two guys who are yeah, they both were your box safeties. 1179 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 1: You know, want to be around the ball and make plays, 1180 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 1: and you get anty, So now you're giving up things 1181 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 1: in the post because you want to make a play 1182 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 1: on the ball. But if you got a true post safety, 1183 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 1: he's gonna do his job. He's gonna mind his own business, 1184 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,640 Speaker 1: and he's gonna make the plays that come his way. Yeah, 1185 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,440 Speaker 1: and I think that's what we're looking for with this 1186 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 1: defense and out of that defense because it has an opportunity. 1187 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 1: Now with the moves you started with the coordinator, but 1188 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the line. Dalvin Tomlinson comes in, it 1189 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 1: gives you what you need a defensive tackle. You mentioned 1190 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 1: the run before. We'll just start right there. What does 1191 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,720 Speaker 1: that do for a defense when he get that three 1192 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 1: hundred twenty pound guy. Now, this is gonna be an 1193 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,160 Speaker 1: aggressive front, so he's not he's not there to eat 1194 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 1: double teams. He's there to penetrate and make plays. But 1195 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 1: how does that help the guys behind and really everybody? 1196 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 1: So what it does is you got a guy who's 1197 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, you think about him, he's a three technique. 1198 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 1: So a three technique is usually you know, in that 1199 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 1: B gap, you know, right on the outside shade of 1200 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,560 Speaker 1: that guard. And if you look at Jim Schwartz, Jim 1201 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 1: Swartz runs the wide nine and why nine means that 1202 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 1: that d N is kind of you know, d N 1203 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 1: is out there, but he's a little bit like two 1204 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 1: steps farther outside of where he's supposed to be normally, 1205 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,920 Speaker 1: So that B gap is wide open now because you 1206 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 1: you're essentially creating another gap. If you got a D 1207 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,960 Speaker 1: tack or a three technique that's sitting in there, that's 1208 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,960 Speaker 1: gonna put a stop sign on it. So say he 1209 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: gets vertical, he stops the running back from getting outside 1210 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 1: of him. Now you got those free flowing linebackers coming 1211 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 1: over the top to make the play, and you don't 1212 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 1: have to worry about the ball getting outside that defensive tackle, 1213 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 1: especially if he's gonna be aggressive like that. So I 1214 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 1: think Tomlinson is the perfect fit for that. Right. There's 1215 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,120 Speaker 1: not a he's not a splash, not a big name 1216 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 1: free agent, but he's a productive guy who understands his 1217 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 1: job and his responsibility and he's gonna get the job done. 1218 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 1: And I think you hit the nail on the head. 1219 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 1: That's kind of when you look at this defense. Though 1220 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,280 Speaker 1: you've got the talent, you just need to do it. 1221 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 1: Just be her sound. We're gonna be very difficult to 1222 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 1: move the ball. I mean, last year, if this defense 1223 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 1: just you know, did their job and handled their responsibility 1224 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,919 Speaker 1: with look as so many more wins that we would 1225 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 1: have had. You know, it's been times. You know, people 1226 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: that can say what they want about the offense, but 1227 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 1: they've had leagues throughout this whole season. Last year they 1228 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,080 Speaker 1: were up in a lot of games and they kind 1229 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,440 Speaker 1: of just let the thing get away. If that defense 1230 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 1: can just hold teams and just do their job, play 1231 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 1: sound defense, we will win a lot more games that way. Yeah, 1232 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,240 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, you hope that Dalvin Thompson 1233 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 1: helps you be stout unless you said, freeze up your 1234 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 1: linebackers who generally speaking or undersize relative to somebody. But 1235 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 1: if you've got the defensive tackles that's keeping them offensive 1236 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: linement off of them, they've free flowing. They can get 1237 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: to the ball and they can get there fast. Yeah. 1238 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 1: And then you've got the great corner trio. You've got 1239 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 1: Grant and now wand Thorne Hills. You've got a good secondary. 1240 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 1: You should be able to pressure the passer and obvious 1241 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 1: passing situations you should be able to cover. And so 1242 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 1: that's what you need. For the past few years. It's 1243 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 1: always sound good on paper, we just got to see 1244 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 1: it put into action. And I think Jim Schwartz is 1245 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 1: the guy that can get it on all of these guys. 1246 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 1: When you are a Jim Schwartz, You've won a Super Bowl, 1247 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 1: you have sent guys to the Pro Bowl everywhere, have been. 1248 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 1: You are well regarded for your ability to coach a defense. 1249 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 1: You know. I think one of the things that people 1250 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 1: don't realize, and you said it earlier, players aren't robots, 1251 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 1: and players in many cases are in their early twenties. 1252 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 1: Many of them are millionaires, yes, and so I think 1253 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 1: people don't put themselves in the shoes of what it 1254 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 1: would be like if they themselves or not. They're not 1255 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 1: honest about what they would have been like if they 1256 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 1: were a twenty year old millionaire. I think most people 1257 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 1: would be difficult. It is so does a guy like 1258 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz. Is that credibility that he brings and kind 1259 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 1: of his attitude which is very much going to be 1260 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 1: no nonsense, kind of get in some guts. Is that 1261 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 1: kind of what you need at times? So what you 1262 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 1: what you need is first you do need that one 1263 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 1: thousand percent. You need a guy to come in and 1264 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: set the tone easily. Um. But it also determines on 1265 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 1: the player. You know, it's this is a player thing. 1266 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 1: Why do you played his game? You know some people 1267 01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 1: played his game for money reasons. I just want to 1268 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 1: make money to you know, take care of my family. 1269 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 1: Or some people play because I want to be great. 1270 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 1: I want to go to the Hall of Fame. So 1271 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,920 Speaker 1: what are you doing to be great? You know, some 1272 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 1: people get in the league and they get complacent, and 1273 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 1: that's the craziest. Yeah, you get complacent in life, man, 1274 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,960 Speaker 1: and and you think that you arriving. As soon as 1275 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 1: you do, boom you get cuttings. So you gotta come 1276 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,800 Speaker 1: in this thing and take this job seriously because this 1277 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 1: thing can pass you right by. You could be on 1278 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 1: the outside looking in. And I don't want any player 1279 01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 1: to be there. So when why are you there? And 1280 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 1: you got the opportunity and you're employed, make sure that 1281 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 1: you're going in there every single day and doing everything 1282 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 1: you can. I mean, leave no stone left unturned. If 1283 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,280 Speaker 1: this watch extra film, do it, if it's spending time 1284 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 1: after practice to do some extra drills, just to make 1285 01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 1: sure that you, Chris, do it because you never know 1286 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,400 Speaker 1: when that opportunity is gonna come in the game and 1287 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,120 Speaker 1: this team is gonna need you to step up. And 1288 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 1: make that play. So you need to be ready for 1289 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 1: those opportunities. And I think that you know, we heard 1290 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,680 Speaker 1: John Johnson talking about that last year. You know, he 1291 01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 1: gave out there. You know, guys aren't doing extra things 1292 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,760 Speaker 1: when they when the you know, when three o'clock or 1293 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 1: four o'clock is up, And there's no way that you're 1294 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 1: going to be great in this game if you if 1295 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,280 Speaker 1: you're not taking what you do in the building outside 1296 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 1: at home. Like for myself, I started one game in 1297 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,640 Speaker 1: the NFL and I was against the Oakland Raiders. At 1298 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:21,960 Speaker 1: the time. That entire week, I did nothing but watch 1299 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 1: film all day long. But you know what, I was 1300 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 1: so prepared for that game, Nathan. It is no better 1301 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 1: feeling than going in the game and being able to say, 1302 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 1: this is what's coming and it happens. It's like it's 1303 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 1: a feeling that I wish every player can have, like 1304 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 1: just to know what a team is trying to do 1305 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 1: and knowing how to stop it. Man, like you should 1306 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 1: do it, Just do it, trust me. But that's I 1307 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 1: think you hit on something that is, you know, just 1308 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,720 Speaker 1: from getting to be around Joe Thomas so much and 1309 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 1: listening the way that he approached everything if you really 1310 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,560 Speaker 1: want to be great in this game, it's a lifestyle. 1311 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 1: It is a complete dedication to the person suit of 1312 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,440 Speaker 1: that greatness, whether it's watching film, bonding with your guys 1313 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,360 Speaker 1: and talking ball with them so that they know what 1314 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 1: you're thinking without you having to tell them what your things. 1315 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 1: So you guys are all kind of seeing through the 1316 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,600 Speaker 1: same eyes, and that's how you approach everything. I'm sure 1317 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 1: you do the same now when you come to do 1318 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,680 Speaker 1: broadcasting for me with a game on Sunday, it's like, 1319 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 1: I don't what my biggest fear is. I don't want 1320 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,920 Speaker 1: everybody I want something. Never want somebody to say he 1321 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's talking about her, he wasn't prepared 1322 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,840 Speaker 1: for this scene. Right, that's the scariest thing. So you 1323 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 1: want to you want to be able if it doesn't 1324 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,920 Speaker 1: work out. Listen, if you put in all the work 1325 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,400 Speaker 1: and it doesn't work out, you can at least look 1326 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 1: yourself in the mirror, because that's what it's about. At 1327 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:35,800 Speaker 1: the end of the day. Can you look yourself in 1328 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 1: the mirror and say, I honestly did everything I tried, 1329 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,360 Speaker 1: I did everything I was supposed to do, and it 1330 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 1: just obviously I just wasn't good enough. That's okay, that's 1331 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 1: part of the life. But if you sitting there will regret, 1332 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna eat at you for the rest of your life. 1333 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 1: I do think there's an interesting balance between the people 1334 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,400 Speaker 1: that are wired that way in my kind of decade 1335 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,120 Speaker 1: and will be my eleven season around you know, the 1336 01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 1: NFL and around the Browns, and then there are people 1337 01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,960 Speaker 1: that I think are afraid to do that because they 1338 01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 1: can at least always say them like they don't ever 1339 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,520 Speaker 1: want to get to the point where they say I 1340 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 1: wasn't good enough when I did everything. So if I 1341 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 1: leave something in the tank, then I that's just part 1342 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,960 Speaker 1: of it. If I did listen, it's always this league 1343 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,240 Speaker 1: is always looking for cheaper and younger, and there's always 1344 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 1: some guys somebody out there that's looking to take your job. 1345 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 1: It's hungrier than you. So you got to make sure 1346 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,680 Speaker 1: that you're doing everything you can and you can't give 1347 01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,120 Speaker 1: them that satisfaction. If I'm always on my a game 1348 01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 1: and I'm doing the best I can every day, there's 1349 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,080 Speaker 1: no way that you're taking my job from me. And 1350 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 1: that's it's a competitive thing. You have to compete with 1351 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 1: your mind. It's a mindset thing, and like I said, 1352 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 1: hopefully Jim Schwartz can store that into this defense and 1353 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 1: Bubba on this special team as well. Yeah, there's no 1354 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 1: doubt because I mean Bubba, I just got to be 1355 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,560 Speaker 1: around him. We did Jim Donovan and I did an 1356 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,920 Speaker 1: event with called meet the Coaches for some of the partners, 1357 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,840 Speaker 1: so it was all the coordinators and Stefanski and like, 1358 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:54,200 Speaker 1: Schwartz is a phenomenal talker, and you has a president 1359 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,120 Speaker 1: and then Bubba and Toronto is just like legit. I'm jealous. 1360 01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,080 Speaker 1: I feel jealous, dude, you're like this guy. This guy's 1361 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:02,919 Speaker 1: Legitiman He stayed in the league for a decade playing 1362 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 1: Specialtiams like, you've got to be wired a little bit 1363 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,560 Speaker 1: differently than you do, and you've got to be tough, 1364 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 1: and you've got to be because they always want cheaper 1365 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 1: there special because they feel like anybody, if you fast 1366 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,920 Speaker 1: and strong, we could just replace you. But if you 1367 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,840 Speaker 1: get if you make your plays, there's no way to 1368 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,320 Speaker 1: make can replace you. Exactly right, that's the key. All right, 1369 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 1: we're not replacing anybody. We still got almost a half 1370 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 1: hour to go here. When to come back, we'll talk 1371 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 1: a little bit about some of the additions on the 1372 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,920 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. We got some fact or fiction. 1373 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,440 Speaker 1: We might take some calls. You also can tweet your 1374 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:35,800 Speaker 1: questions for TIBUS using the hashtag ASCBD at Brown's Underscore Daily, 1375 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 1: Nathan's Girl, Tis Pal, Clem Rod's Daily Brought you by 1376 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 1: bally Bet Coming soon to Ohio, Cleveland. Brown's Daily brought 1377 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,320 Speaker 1: to you by bally Bet, Coming soon to Ohio on 1378 01:07:52,520 --> 01:08:06,760 Speaker 1: eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. All Right, welcome back to then 1379 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,360 Speaker 1: Brown's Dailey brought you by Bally Beck, Coming soon to Ohio, 1380 01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,320 Speaker 1: Nathan's Gura and ti Vis Powell in the studio here 1381 01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 1: at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus in Brea. All Right, Thyvius, 1382 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,839 Speaker 1: let's talk offense. We talked a lot about defense. Offense. 1383 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:19,360 Speaker 1: One of the things that I'm sure you know you 1384 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 1: were sitting there. You've been around some great defenses in 1385 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,679 Speaker 1: your time. Brown's very effective. For a good poor season. 1386 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,799 Speaker 1: We were top ten offense. Not necessarily a scary offense 1387 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,519 Speaker 1: in the sense that you weren't worried about somebody running 1388 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,000 Speaker 1: by you. The only person that you really worried about 1389 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,360 Speaker 1: was was Amara Cooper route in you and making you 1390 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,719 Speaker 1: look bad on a route. Yeah, that and Nick Joe 1391 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,280 Speaker 1: potentially running over you know, that was the too scariest thing. 1392 01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 1: Yeah that. DPJ obviously has really ascended here, David and Joke, 1393 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,120 Speaker 1: who's a good player, but we didn't have a space creator, 1394 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:48,800 Speaker 1: and so Andrew Barry knew that was something they need 1395 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,160 Speaker 1: to address. You make the trade for Elijah More, which 1396 01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 1: I love. I loved him at all, miss. I think 1397 01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 1: he's you go watch the end of his rookie season. 1398 01:08:55,439 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 1: He's got great tape that changes the calculus at bit. 1399 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna play a lot more eleven And now you're saying, oh, Amari, 1400 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,559 Speaker 1: we can't leave him singled up. But now Elijah More 1401 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,280 Speaker 1: can run by us. DPJ is very good against single 1402 01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 1: coverage as well. The Chief, if you give him space 1403 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,240 Speaker 1: in the middlefield, is very productive player. And now you 1404 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,719 Speaker 1: have Nick Chubb against lighter boxes. So just by being 1405 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,160 Speaker 1: able to be a dangerous eleven team, I think it 1406 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,280 Speaker 1: changes everything for this office. Well, it definitely changes the mindset. 1407 01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 1: Now you got guys that can go. You know, it's 1408 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,479 Speaker 1: like everybody who can win their one on one battles 1409 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,320 Speaker 1: in this thing. You know, you think about the run game. Obviously, 1410 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:31,679 Speaker 1: the offensive line got a huge chip on their shoulder. 1411 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,000 Speaker 1: We want to make sure that Nick Chubb gets the 1412 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,040 Speaker 1: yard is that he can give. Plus Nick Chubb can 1413 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 1: break tackles, that he can be very effective and win games. 1414 01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,160 Speaker 1: Then you think about the passing game, you think about 1415 01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,760 Speaker 1: all those wide receivers that you name, you know, you 1416 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 1: think about Elijah More and people will say it's the 1417 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:50,560 Speaker 1: pushback is his numbers aren't really that great. And I 1418 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,160 Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. But if you got guys like 1419 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,040 Speaker 1: a j Brown who's coming out saying this guy is 1420 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,920 Speaker 1: gonna be better than me. You got an Odale who's saying, man, 1421 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,000 Speaker 1: this guy is really really good, you know it's something there. 1422 01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:06,040 Speaker 1: The talent is there. Maybe he just wasn't utilized correctly. 1423 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,599 Speaker 1: That's that's part of a thing as well. So obviously 1424 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,880 Speaker 1: if the Zach Wilson thing wasn't great with them in 1425 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,960 Speaker 1: the Jets, so you didn't get to see him a lot, 1426 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,000 Speaker 1: but this guy does win. I remember when we played 1427 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,400 Speaker 1: when the Jets played the Browns, he had a route 1428 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,679 Speaker 1: against Denzel where he ran a ten yard snap route 1429 01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,519 Speaker 1: where it was a ten yard out route and the 1430 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,320 Speaker 1: way he snaps out of in and out of his break, 1431 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,240 Speaker 1: he creates the separation needed for any quarterback to get 1432 01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,840 Speaker 1: him the ball. So that right there is something that's 1433 01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,160 Speaker 1: going to help him win. Just his route running ability 1434 01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 1: is going to help him win routes. And now, oh, 1435 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 1: by the way, he runs a four to three. Now 1436 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,840 Speaker 1: I gotta back up. I can't flatfoot this guy because 1437 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,840 Speaker 1: he'll run right past me. I think that everything that 1438 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:49,040 Speaker 1: it'll all come together as long as Deshaun Watson comes 1439 01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 1: out and if he looks even close to the guy 1440 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 1: he was in Houston, which he gave us glimpses of it, 1441 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,720 Speaker 1: so it's still there. Now that he'll be working with 1442 01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,519 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski for more than six games, he'll be with 1443 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,720 Speaker 1: a whole core wide receivers. They'll build that chemistry. This 1444 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 1: office should really be able to go next year. Yeah, 1445 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,920 Speaker 1: there are I couldn't agree more. Obviously. The only thing 1446 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,920 Speaker 1: is we need great play from Jedrick Wiels. That is 1447 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,040 Speaker 1: one thing that we do because if if he if 1448 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,759 Speaker 1: the left tackle position isn't solidified and you know, things 1449 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,599 Speaker 1: is not looking well, it can't make a long season. 1450 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,200 Speaker 1: It can, but I think you're if the shan is 1451 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,320 Speaker 1: close to what we did see glimpses of it. I 1452 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,679 Speaker 1: think I certainly was guilty of it. I underestimated because 1453 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,360 Speaker 1: I saw him out here in practice, Yeah, how good 1454 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,880 Speaker 1: he would look to I underestimated what it would take 1455 01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,639 Speaker 1: to play. And then we got we would get teased 1456 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,880 Speaker 1: with it. Every week. They're certain plays or throws, you know, 1457 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,320 Speaker 1: the the far the far hash sideline ball to a Mari, 1458 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 1: the post to uh DPJ and Cincinnati where you're like 1459 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,280 Speaker 1: and dpj's like that, or the deep digg he's like 1460 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,479 Speaker 1: that ball caught meat. Yeah, where you saying, ever seen 1461 01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,439 Speaker 1: this stuff? And then on top of that, obviously, you 1462 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,439 Speaker 1: know when he does the escapability thing, when he breaks 1463 01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,839 Speaker 1: those sacks and he's scrambling around, it's like our receivers 1464 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,000 Speaker 1: weren't used to it. So they there was our lives 1465 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,559 Speaker 1: and neither was our line. We got a bunch of 1466 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 1: holding calls and the receivers didn't understand that. You know 1467 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,040 Speaker 1: it scrammed with drill whatever. If you go deep, come 1468 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 1: back short, if you got a short route, go deep. 1469 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:10,880 Speaker 1: You know that's the thing. Now that you got like 1470 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:15,080 Speaker 1: an Elijah more, imagine checking him for six seconds and 1471 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,519 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he taking off again, all 1472 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,599 Speaker 1: the way up the field and he just chucked something deep. 1473 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,680 Speaker 1: Like it's a lot on a DB's body to be 1474 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,960 Speaker 1: able to check a guy like Elijah More. So that 1475 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,080 Speaker 1: right there is it. Like I say, his numbers aren't great, 1476 01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,080 Speaker 1: but with a great quarterback like Deshaun Watson, he can't 1477 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 1: extend to be a top talent in his league. I 1478 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,040 Speaker 1: just go back and what I've been watching when I 1479 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,360 Speaker 1: watched Eliza Elijah More the final six games of his 1480 01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:40,479 Speaker 1: rookie season, when he was playing and being featured six 1481 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,040 Speaker 1: for sixty seven, seven for eighty four and two touchdowns, 1482 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:44,880 Speaker 1: three for forty four and a touchdown, eight for one 1483 01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,240 Speaker 1: forty one in a touchdown, four for forty six, six 1484 01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,360 Speaker 1: for seventy seven and a touchdown, he was getting real targets. 1485 01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 1: He was getting, you know, six to twelve targets a game, 1486 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,559 Speaker 1: very productive, nub very productive, but consistently five touchdowns in 1487 01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,680 Speaker 1: the six games, hundred yard game. You know, he was 1488 01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,880 Speaker 1: over eighty yards three of the final five games, six 1489 01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,479 Speaker 1: or more catches, you know, four times in those six games. 1490 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,720 Speaker 1: That is the element that he can bring to this 1491 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 1: football team. And you know, then you bring in Marky's goodwin. Yeah, 1492 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,280 Speaker 1: I know him. He can fly. I got to play 1493 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,400 Speaker 1: it with him for many years. Yeah, that guy right 1494 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:19,360 Speaker 1: there is obviously he got the Olympian speed. He had 1495 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:23,120 Speaker 1: a really productive, like few games with the Seattle Seahawks 1496 01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,400 Speaker 1: last year. I mean this, the guys only like five 1497 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,759 Speaker 1: nine five team, but he attacks the football. And obviously, 1498 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 1: like I say that, speed is always something that a 1499 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 1: dB has to respect. Two things that every dB respects 1500 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,680 Speaker 1: is speed and route running. If you got those two things, 1501 01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:42,200 Speaker 1: the dB is already a little bit worried. So M 1502 01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,880 Speaker 1: Marky's goodwin brings that to the table. You know, he's 1503 01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,960 Speaker 1: not a I don't think he's an every down wide receiver, 1504 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,640 Speaker 1: but he's a guy that when he's in there, be 1505 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,479 Speaker 1: on high alert because this guy can absolutely go well 1506 01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 1: and it alerts the defense. Yea, all of a sudden 1507 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:54,960 Speaker 1: they're saying, oh, we're going to roll the safety in 1508 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,200 Speaker 1: his direction. And now you've got one on one tomorrow, 1509 01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,759 Speaker 1: one on one with Elijah Moore, who was percentage wise 1510 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,280 Speaker 1: as good as a Mari against man coverage last year. 1511 01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,200 Speaker 1: I mean the thing the staff for more that's crazy 1512 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:05,919 Speaker 1: to me is I saw he had thirty six catchable 1513 01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,320 Speaker 1: balls thrown to him lest year only thirty six. He 1514 01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 1: caught thirty seven passes, so he had one of the 1515 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,160 Speaker 1: highest catch rates in the league in terms of converting 1516 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,040 Speaker 1: balls that were catchable into catch. It doesn't drop the ball, 1517 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:17,920 Speaker 1: you know. And you mentioned the speed. This is a 1518 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:19,599 Speaker 1: play that I was just I was taking a gain 1519 01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:21,800 Speaker 1: ratte and this was when we played Pittsburgh. This was 1520 01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,720 Speaker 1: Jalen darr Now the slot running a post and we 1521 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,880 Speaker 1: end up getting a big thirty yard crosser to a 1522 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,599 Speaker 1: Mari underneath it. Because that speed. You saw Minka Fitzpatch say, whoa, 1523 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,000 Speaker 1: this guy's kind of fast he runs and it opens 1524 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,160 Speaker 1: it up. And we only got that in a glimpse, 1525 01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:35,559 Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the season last year. 1526 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,080 Speaker 1: But now you're gonna have multiple guys that can do 1527 01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,200 Speaker 1: that all the time. You have the ability with a 1528 01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,840 Speaker 1: good one even if he plays gives you a twenty 1529 01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:46,479 Speaker 1: plays a game. Yeah, he's gonna impact coverages for twenty 1530 01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 1: plays because when you see Mark he's good. When the 1531 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,839 Speaker 1: first thing you think of is Olympian, so you already 1532 01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:55,599 Speaker 1: backing off right there. And that's what from an offensive mindset, 1533 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,080 Speaker 1: that's what we want. Now we got role for Mark 1534 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,519 Speaker 1: Cooper to work. We got role for DPG to run 1535 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:02,800 Speaker 1: that famous dig rout Daddy runs. You don't have to 1536 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 1: worry about a safety flat foot and then and trying 1537 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,080 Speaker 1: to beat two guys. So that right there. The Browns, 1538 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,960 Speaker 1: like I said, they haven't made the big name Elijah More. 1539 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,800 Speaker 1: You can call him a big name. I think he is, 1540 01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,280 Speaker 1: but I loved him. They haven't made like the guy 1541 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,240 Speaker 1: who everybody's like, oh, that's a big time free agent. Like, 1542 01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,000 Speaker 1: they didn't do that. But they got some productive guys 1543 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,040 Speaker 1: that's going who they're gonna utilize correctly to make this 1544 01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 1: whole thing go. And they did it for a couple 1545 01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,000 Speaker 1: million dollars. That's it. They stay. Now. You know they 1546 01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:31,680 Speaker 1: the king when he come in that cap room. Now, 1547 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,080 Speaker 1: Andrew Barry, there's not many guys like that, and I 1548 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,280 Speaker 1: think he's the king. For trading, I mean to give up. 1549 01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,600 Speaker 1: They wanted the Jets wanted the third round pick for 1550 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 1: Elijah More. You give him a second, take their third back. 1551 01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,439 Speaker 1: So you're not even losing a pick, you're just losing 1552 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,160 Speaker 1: some spots. The value on those new charts has that 1553 01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,480 Speaker 1: in the mid fourth round, and you got Elijah More exactly, 1554 01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,679 Speaker 1: so you is listen. They yeah, he's he's a wizard 1555 01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,960 Speaker 1: on the trade. Yeah, I would be like, na, no, 1556 01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:00,360 Speaker 1: not if you want it. That's how this for me 1557 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,120 Speaker 1: sometimes when my fantasy football these because I used to 1558 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,559 Speaker 1: do fans football professionally. Yeah, and so I will call up, 1559 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, and try to make a trade with somebody 1560 01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:07,280 Speaker 1: and they're like, well, yeah, but if you want them, 1561 01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,320 Speaker 1: which which I don't want to trade, I don't want it. Yeah, 1562 01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:12,880 Speaker 1: I don't want I have to overpay in my trades 1563 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,280 Speaker 1: to get anything done there. Uh yeah. So I think 1564 01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,760 Speaker 1: you talked about, you know, preparing for a game, the 1565 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,920 Speaker 1: one that you started. If you're preparing for a Browns team, 1566 01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:23,960 Speaker 1: now that can come out with Amar DPJ Goodwin or 1567 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,920 Speaker 1: Elijah David Njoku and then you have to worry about 1568 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,679 Speaker 1: oh wait, so now we're in a six man box. Yeah, 1569 01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,160 Speaker 1: and then here comes Nick Chubb. He's gonna get to 1570 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,400 Speaker 1: you at that at that center field spot at some point, 1571 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 1: and that's gonna be a tough scenario. That's where it 1572 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,679 Speaker 1: gets scary y. So if I was to go against 1573 01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,320 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns today, you know, the first thing I 1574 01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,760 Speaker 1: would do is, obviously we have to stop the run. 1575 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,960 Speaker 1: That that's that's first and foremost, and then secondly, I 1576 01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,880 Speaker 1: would definitely leave at the beginning of season, they're gonna 1577 01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,840 Speaker 1: lean towards Lamara Cooper because you need to see Elijah 1578 01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 1: More prove it to you first. You need to see it. 1579 01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,240 Speaker 1: So right now, we're going to put the one on 1580 01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,559 Speaker 1: one coverage on Elijah More. But we have to have 1581 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,720 Speaker 1: a plan for Mark Cooper because we know what he 1582 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,280 Speaker 1: brings at the table. Probably at halftime, I might I'm 1583 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,719 Speaker 1: gonna have to make some adjustments. If Elijah Moore turns 1584 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,960 Speaker 1: out to be that guy like we think he can be. 1585 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,080 Speaker 1: In Deshaun Watson is looking good, it can be a 1586 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,599 Speaker 1: long day for that defense because the Browns have too 1587 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,479 Speaker 1: many weapons. You know. Now, if you're going in six 1588 01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,160 Speaker 1: box now, you're giving Nick Chubb what he wants. And 1589 01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,719 Speaker 1: in this league, you gotta pass to run the ball. 1590 01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,800 Speaker 1: So if the passing game is good and we lighting 1591 01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,840 Speaker 1: the ball, lighten the box up. Now, Nick Chubb is like, 1592 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,439 Speaker 1: oh yes, it's my time. Oh by the way, if 1593 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,800 Speaker 1: the Browns is winning, now, they got time to bleed 1594 01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,640 Speaker 1: the clock out. Now now we're playing catchup and we 1595 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:38,280 Speaker 1: ain't got a lot of time to catch up. So 1596 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,120 Speaker 1: it's really a dream scenario right now for the Cleveland 1597 01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:45,720 Speaker 1: Browns offense. It feels to me like Kevin Stefanski has 1598 01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,599 Speaker 1: been so good with his offensive design and play calling 1599 01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,360 Speaker 1: that we've been able to be a top ten offense 1600 01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,280 Speaker 1: when nobody really was afraid of us throwing the football. Yeah, 1601 01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,519 Speaker 1: and to say that in the years twenty twenty through 1602 01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:59,479 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two is kind of insane. Yeah, actually it is. Actually, 1603 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just not what the game is supposed 1604 01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,160 Speaker 1: to be. Now you finally have that quarterback and you 1605 01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,519 Speaker 1: said it too is a defense, right, your first mindset 1606 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 1: is gonna stop Nick Chubb. If if that's a team's mindset, 1607 01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,160 Speaker 1: and we've got Watson and Amari and DPJ and Moore 1608 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,760 Speaker 1: and Goodwin and the Chief. Yeah, with Deshaun Watson as 1609 01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback, we should be annihilating people. I mean, the 1610 01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,240 Speaker 1: days of people putting nine guys up there and saying 1611 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,679 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb's not gonna beat us are over. Yeah, pretty 1612 01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,400 Speaker 1: much like what Deshaun Watson had to come out and 1613 01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,599 Speaker 1: improve it. That's the thing. Very early on in the season, 1614 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,479 Speaker 1: a lot of people are still gonna go with the 1615 01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,200 Speaker 1: we gotta stop Nick Chubb thing. If DeShawn Watson plays 1616 01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,200 Speaker 1: like the two hundred and thirty million dollars man like 1617 01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,280 Speaker 1: we think he is, then it's it's gonna be. They 1618 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,360 Speaker 1: will keep defensive coordinators up at night trying to figure 1619 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,160 Speaker 1: out how to stop this thing, right, because you can't. Ultimately, 1620 01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:48,920 Speaker 1: you can't take away anything you talk about it in 1621 01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:52,760 Speaker 1: a coverage situation, every coverage has a weak spot. Yeah, 1622 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,840 Speaker 1: that's typically where the ball goes. So there isn't a 1623 01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,840 Speaker 1: defense if you have all the answers, it really doesn't. 1624 01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,479 Speaker 1: The offense is gonna be able to be productive anywhere. Yeah, 1625 01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,360 Speaker 1: and if they if you're willing to give up the 1626 01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,720 Speaker 1: short routes. But you got a guy like Elijah Moore 1627 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:07,519 Speaker 1: who's good on YAK like take it it's a lie. 1628 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:11,040 Speaker 1: It could be. This thing could get early, real late. 1629 01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:14,200 Speaker 1: I mean this is WHOI It's very exciting to think 1630 01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,439 Speaker 1: about it because, like I say, it's not the big name, 1631 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,719 Speaker 1: but the productivity is there, and I see the vision 1632 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,639 Speaker 1: behind what they're trying to do well, and you set 1633 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,680 Speaker 1: a separation is what keeps the guys who can separate 1634 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,960 Speaker 1: provide they can catch the ball. Right. But if you 1635 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:28,360 Speaker 1: can separate and catch the ball. You can play in 1636 01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,000 Speaker 1: sleep for longer. Well, I think about a guy like 1637 01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,400 Speaker 1: David Belle. You know, David Bell. He doesn't have the 1638 01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,920 Speaker 1: fastest forty, but if he but he catches a lot 1639 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,680 Speaker 1: of great passes. So if that's the case, he get 1640 01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,080 Speaker 1: that route running down, this guy could be in a 1641 01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,559 Speaker 1: killer in the slot for a lot for many many 1642 01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,960 Speaker 1: years to come. They just gotta play fast play and 1643 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,280 Speaker 1: that should in your second year right there. Yeah. Second, 1644 01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,840 Speaker 1: they say the biggest adjustment is first to second year. 1645 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:54,120 Speaker 1: So we should see the DoD David Belle this season. Yeah, 1646 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to for a receiver I think 1647 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,240 Speaker 1: to get playtime. I think that's gonna be an interesting 1648 01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,639 Speaker 1: And that's another reason why you bring getting these guys. 1649 01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,000 Speaker 1: You want to create that competition. If I'm going up 1650 01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,639 Speaker 1: against somebody every day and this guy they brought this guy. 1651 01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,120 Speaker 1: If I'm the starting wide receiver. So say I'm David 1652 01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,519 Speaker 1: Bell and I see that they traded for Elijah More. 1653 01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,640 Speaker 1: They brought it. Markue's good one. It's gonna make me 1654 01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,120 Speaker 1: step my game up because I want to play like 1655 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm not here to just you know, wave a towel 1656 01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,400 Speaker 1: on the sideline. I want to play. So every day 1657 01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,040 Speaker 1: you're getting the best out of me every single day, 1658 01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,439 Speaker 1: and it's good because they're doing the same thing. So 1659 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,639 Speaker 1: everybody's getting better. And at the end of the day, 1660 01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,040 Speaker 1: it is only one ball, so so the best man 1661 01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,360 Speaker 1: is gonna win. But at least you know that you 1662 01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,120 Speaker 1: gave it your all. It goes back to what I 1663 01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,400 Speaker 1: was saying earlier. Yeah, no doubt, it's gonna be fine. 1664 01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:38,920 Speaker 1: I can't wait for training camp. That's a hard part 1665 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:42,000 Speaker 1: is that this happens and we got to wait forever. 1666 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,439 Speaker 1: You gonna preview at OTA A little looking OTAs, Yeah, 1667 01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,200 Speaker 1: a little look, no doubt. All right, we'll be back 1668 01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,639 Speaker 1: with more. Clei Brown's Daily brought to you by Bally 1669 01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:59,439 Speaker 1: Bat Coming soon to Ohio. Cleveland Brown's Daily brought to 1670 01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,719 Speaker 1: you by bound Bet coming soon to Ohio on eight 1671 01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:46,040 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN. Cleveland. All right for a team of injury 1672 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,519 Speaker 1: lawyers dedicated to every client every day called one eight 1673 01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,360 Speaker 1: hundred elk Ohio Elkin. Elk is a proud partner of 1674 01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:55,000 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. All Right, Gibbet, apparently, he said, we're 1675 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,360 Speaker 1: loaded up with questions. By the way, I noticed yesterday 1676 01:21:57,880 --> 01:21:59,719 Speaker 1: you acted like we were out of mail back questions, 1677 01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:01,960 Speaker 1: and there was a very GiB a specific question that 1678 01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:05,360 Speaker 1: was asked that somehow didn't get asked. Well, I mean, 1679 01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,959 Speaker 1: when you're hosting the mail bag segment, you have screening 1680 01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,519 Speaker 1: powers shoes. I guess we were. I got my car 1681 01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,400 Speaker 1: and I saw that, and I just started laughing of like, 1682 01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:16,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go back and look at it. 1683 01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,320 Speaker 1: Especially if it was a question like that about me. 1684 01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,560 Speaker 1: First one you would have asked, yes, truth, listen, I 1685 01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,760 Speaker 1: don't mind it. We we all understand where we're coming from. No, 1686 01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:28,759 Speaker 1: I just like I don't. I don't know. In fairness, 1687 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:34,240 Speaker 1: I saw it, I knew it, and I'm like, I'm 1688 01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:39,120 Speaker 1: sussing you've ever done the booth. I don't even done 1689 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,760 Speaker 1: anything embarrassing. But there's just that we have done funny stories. Yeah, 1690 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,040 Speaker 1: I blatantly lie to you one day in the food 1691 01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:54,960 Speaker 1: so hurtful. Hurtful. Um, let's see outstanding XS and O's talk, 1692 01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,800 Speaker 1: gentleman info galore. I love it. One question, if I may, 1693 01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,920 Speaker 1: I hope more contracts are reached structured a little bit. 1694 01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,360 Speaker 1: This is from the Really Big Bar. What do you think? 1695 01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:08,200 Speaker 1: Thanks Dennis from Loudonville. Well, I think it depends on 1696 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,639 Speaker 1: if they see somebody outdate that they trying to go get, 1697 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,439 Speaker 1: then they have to restructor to create some room for him. 1698 01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,360 Speaker 1: But if they don't need to do it, then let 1699 01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,040 Speaker 1: it be what it is. I think that you still 1700 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:20,800 Speaker 1: have the ability. There are guys. You can restructure a 1701 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:22,920 Speaker 1: mar you can restructure Miles, you can restructure Denzel, you 1702 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:26,040 Speaker 1: could restructure Botonia or Teller. If you wanted to create 1703 01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,679 Speaker 1: cap space this year. Now, the other benefit and create 1704 01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:30,600 Speaker 1: cap spaces here be to roll it forward for the 1705 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,479 Speaker 1: future years. But you're still in pretty good shape here. Yeah. 1706 01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,479 Speaker 1: I do think that you're going to have to do 1707 01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,639 Speaker 1: something again because you can't absorb a sixty million dollars 1708 01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,000 Speaker 1: cap hit on Deshaun Watson. So that contract is I 1709 01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,400 Speaker 1: think it gonna be not perpetually restructured, but it's going 1710 01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,400 Speaker 1: to be continually kind of kicked down the line. And 1711 01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,680 Speaker 1: he's still he's gonna get all of his money. Oh yeah, 1712 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:50,679 Speaker 1: that's never going to change. That's not going to change. 1713 01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:52,840 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be kind of the timing of how 1714 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,040 Speaker 1: that money gets paid out and converting things to bonuses 1715 01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:58,200 Speaker 1: and affecting the cap things like that, and the Browns 1716 01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,840 Speaker 1: also will have about ten million dollars infused into the 1717 01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,439 Speaker 1: cap after June one, when John Johnson and Clowney come 1718 01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,120 Speaker 1: off the book. So I've always said that if they 1719 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:07,960 Speaker 1: don't necessarily need a restructure, and they may say that 1720 01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:09,880 Speaker 1: that's valuable to carry forward for next year when we 1721 01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,479 Speaker 1: have to pay some bigger bills, or they could say, yes, 1722 01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:17,200 Speaker 1: bless you. They could say veteran defensive end, veteran you know, 1723 01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,840 Speaker 1: Frank Clark for example, if he doesn't sign somewhere, veteran 1724 01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:24,040 Speaker 1: defensive tackle, somebody who really wasn't interested in OTAs and whatnot. 1725 01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,840 Speaker 1: That's the move. Save million dollars. If you want to 1726 01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,479 Speaker 1: come into training camp and be a part of this thing, 1727 01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,599 Speaker 1: that I think that's where if they were to add 1728 01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,000 Speaker 1: another real piece, that's I think where it would. Yeah, 1729 01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:35,880 Speaker 1: and I think it would come like you said, closer 1730 01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,840 Speaker 1: to training camp, you gotta go through OTA see what 1731 01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,759 Speaker 1: you got. You know, maybe lore forbid it is any injuries, 1732 01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,680 Speaker 1: but injuries might play a part of it, and they 1733 01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:45,639 Speaker 1: you have to go get a guy. But right now 1734 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,920 Speaker 1: I think they pretty content where to add. Yeah, and 1735 01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:50,479 Speaker 1: you want to see it's your point in otias, like, 1736 01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,439 Speaker 1: you look at your defensive end room right now, it's Miles, 1737 01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:56,000 Speaker 1: it's double O seven, it's Alex right, it's Isaiah Thomas. 1738 01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,200 Speaker 1: Has Alex right taken a big step? He was always 1739 01:24:58,200 --> 01:24:59,800 Speaker 1: considered a guy that was going to take a year 1740 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,439 Speaker 1: or so? Yeah? Does he look like a new guy? Yeah? 1741 01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,880 Speaker 1: Because if he does, and we're good that we're a 1742 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,559 Speaker 1: real good spot. All right. This from jail k MVP. 1743 01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:13,040 Speaker 1: Mister poem, Oh, it's just me. Oh when you played, 1744 01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,120 Speaker 1: how much benefit do you think you would have gained 1745 01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:18,599 Speaker 1: by occasionally spending time in the room that you lined 1746 01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,559 Speaker 1: up against? And this goes back to a conversation Anthony 1747 01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,160 Speaker 1: Walker Junior joined us right at one o'clock. You just 1748 01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,880 Speaker 1: signed his new contract. He mentioned when he was on 1749 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,400 Speaker 1: IR he was spending time with the offense and in 1750 01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:35,000 Speaker 1: the offensive meetings and giving his input on some things 1751 01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:38,320 Speaker 1: and learning some stuff. Should the Browns push more players 1752 01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,920 Speaker 1: to do it? Well? The thing they you, Yeah, you 1753 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,800 Speaker 1: should be able to. But the thing is, it's so 1754 01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,600 Speaker 1: much that goes into you perfecting your own craft and 1755 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,200 Speaker 1: trying to learn your own playbook and learn the adjustments 1756 01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:51,559 Speaker 1: that you got to make that you just don't have 1757 01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,559 Speaker 1: the time. But luckily for a guy like me when 1758 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,040 Speaker 1: I was young, you know, I dealt with guys like 1759 01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:01,040 Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin in Seattle or Jermaine Curse, and these guys 1760 01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:04,439 Speaker 1: were always teaching me things about the game of football. 1761 01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,720 Speaker 1: You know, wide receivers are looking to do this, so 1762 01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:08,599 Speaker 1: you got to try to play it like this. So 1763 01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,920 Speaker 1: I was getting you get that when you go against 1764 01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,559 Speaker 1: you know, scout team guys, or when you go against 1765 01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,360 Speaker 1: older guys that's trying to teach you how to be 1766 01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,760 Speaker 1: a better player. They'll teach you, you know, what the 1767 01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:21,400 Speaker 1: wide receiver for or the offense or defense is trying 1768 01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:25,120 Speaker 1: to do. And that's just coming with just understanding football. 1769 01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:26,639 Speaker 1: You know, when you look at the game of football, 1770 01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,080 Speaker 1: like for me now you're just looking, you can you 1771 01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,120 Speaker 1: can see what an offense is trying to do. To 1772 01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,680 Speaker 1: a defense, you know, it's all about creating those one 1773 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:37,439 Speaker 1: on one matchups and exploit those those weaknesses. And if 1774 01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:40,120 Speaker 1: you understand that and understand what the weakness of your 1775 01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:45,840 Speaker 1: defense is, you'll always succeed. We got about a minute left. 1776 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:49,960 Speaker 1: Favorite story from playing at Ohio State. My favorite story 1777 01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,920 Speaker 1: from playing at Ohio State. Oh you know what, I 1778 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,519 Speaker 1: had one, but I can't say that one. I can't 1779 01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,080 Speaker 1: say that one because he the dude played here, so 1780 01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:01,120 Speaker 1: I can't. I won't say that. Well, my favorite story 1781 01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,800 Speaker 1: playing at Ohio States. Your favorite story, Nah, I can't 1782 01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,639 Speaker 1: because it's it's I tell you off the air. You can't. 1783 01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:12,960 Speaker 1: It's not it's not for radio. Probably my favorite story 1784 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:17,320 Speaker 1: would be when we played Penn State. Not the year 1785 01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,879 Speaker 1: say Juan was there, because that was the worst story, 1786 01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,040 Speaker 1: but the year before that. You know, we went up 1787 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:26,800 Speaker 1: to Happy Valley um night game obviously, and we had 1788 01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,400 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa had that walk off sack at the end. 1789 01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:32,240 Speaker 1: But it was my favorite game because we were up 1790 01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,240 Speaker 1: and then things got bad. Then our quarterback got hurt, 1791 01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,599 Speaker 1: but he stayed in the game, and I just got 1792 01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:41,439 Speaker 1: to witness that no matter what happened during that game, 1793 01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,479 Speaker 1: we refused to lose that game. And that's when I 1794 01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:46,600 Speaker 1: realized the type of players that I was playing with 1795 01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:48,280 Speaker 1: it and I was like, oh, I could ride out 1796 01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:52,559 Speaker 1: with these guys forever. So that's my favorite story. And 1797 01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,600 Speaker 1: that's a quick little edition of the mail Bag. Unfortunately, 1798 01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,400 Speaker 1: other questions, but so much more to come with Tyvis 1799 01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,639 Speaker 1: Powell clear. Browns Daily brought you by bally Bet, Coming 1800 01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:13,880 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio. Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by 1801 01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:18,679 Speaker 1: bally Bet, Coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1802 01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:25,280 Speaker 1: All Right, welcome back to Clem. Browns Daily brought to 1803 01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:29,400 Speaker 1: you by bally Bet, Coming soon to Ohio. Nathan Zara TIVS. 1804 01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 1: Powell wrapping it up here, thy Ves. This has been 1805 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,200 Speaker 1: a pleasure. It has been Thank you man for allowing 1806 01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,840 Speaker 1: me to come on and which this was. It was great. 1807 01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,479 Speaker 1: I still got that fire in me, I know. Yeah, 1808 01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:42,000 Speaker 1: we gotta talk some more ball. This was a lot 1809 01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:43,600 Speaker 1: of fun, gibbe. What's coming up the rest of the 1810 01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:45,720 Speaker 1: week as I head off to La La Land for 1811 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,639 Speaker 1: a little WrestleMania. So tomorrow a little me and poisal 1812 01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:51,559 Speaker 1: for our one ob our two. We've got some stuff, 1813 01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,920 Speaker 1: uh you and our new safety Yeah. A couple interviews 1814 01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,960 Speaker 1: from the combine, Okay, Charles Davis, we've never played the 1815 01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:04,320 Speaker 1: matter ball. Oh and Leap Broadcasting one of you journalism students. Yeah, 1816 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:11,040 Speaker 1: for Sriday, were firing actually off Friday, We're off. Nana's 1817 01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,599 Speaker 1: excited for us, like I see it sounds like such 1818 01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,680 Speaker 1: a nice young man. So Nana said about Anthony poise Out, 1819 01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:18,439 Speaker 1: it's like he is a nice guy. Is a nice 1820 01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:21,519 Speaker 1: guy for sure? Tivis where can people catch up with you? 1821 01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,639 Speaker 1: Follow what you're doing? Well? I'm always on Twitter at 1822 01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:29,360 Speaker 1: one Tis, Instagram, one Tyves Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show Wednesdays 1823 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,560 Speaker 1: eleven to one ninety seven one the Fan usually on 1824 01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:37,719 Speaker 1: Fridays and Saturday six to eight UM. And you could 1825 01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:40,360 Speaker 1: actually check out my podcast The Orange Is Orange. You're 1826 01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:43,200 Speaker 1: with Holly Wetzel. All right there it is full, full 1827 01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,439 Speaker 1: list of plugs right there. For Time's Poal, busy man 1828 01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:49,560 Speaker 1: in the broadcasting community. Well, this was a blast. Everybody 1829 01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,200 Speaker 1: have a great first Friday. The next level is next 1830 01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,439 Speaker 1: for Times Powell. For Jason Gibbs, Nathan's a girl saying 1831 01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,040 Speaker 1: thanks for listening to another edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily 1832 01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:05,679 Speaker 1: on ESPNA fifty w k n R. You've been listening 1833 01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,559 Speaker 1: to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of the Cleveland Browns 1834 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,920 Speaker 1: and a fifty ESPN Cleveland