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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. Oh what a difference to day makes.
Speaker 1: As we are out here on the Tostito's Championship Plaza,
Speaker 1: the sun is out, it is warm, and it is
Speaker 1: a wonderful Friday here as we're doing our fun Town
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Speaker 1: me or fortunately for these guys, I'm in charge because
Speaker 1: Bill Jones had duty on CBS eleven, So Mickey Spagnol
Speaker 1: along with Everson Walls as usual and coming out of
Speaker 1: the bullpen first, Nate Newton. You say Bill was in
Speaker 1: the restroom. The rest room, You say he had some due,
Speaker 1: he had some duty to do. Good Differently, sound for
Speaker 1: trouble for these next forty five minutes here shots, Oh Jesus,
Speaker 1: that's what I do. But I come on with us.
Speaker 1: Actually it was, oh God, So how can you run
Speaker 1: a show when you can't even control yourself doing the
Speaker 1: press covers? Well that we want to hear about now
Speaker 1: in charge. Now you're in charge. I talked to myself, Okay,
Speaker 1: Unfortunately I didn't mute myself. That was the difference. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, it's a it's a fabulous Friday here.
Speaker 1: It is of fabulous Friday here. It's like sixty some degrees.
Speaker 1: The sun is out and we're out here on the plaza,
Speaker 1: people walking around. Unlike yesterday, right, little Fridgid, Yes it was,
Speaker 1: and people weren't like participating with us. But we are
Speaker 1: here getting you ready for Cowboys Eagles on Sunday Night Football.
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football Night two four and one against two
Speaker 1: and five. That's what the nation wants to see, yes,
Speaker 1: because at twelve o'clock the same day you have Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: and the Ravens Planets. Yeah. Well the public has spoken, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they wanted to see the Cowboys. Well, you know what
Speaker 1: we need We need to check the TV ratings on
Speaker 1: those two games because it's still the Cowboys, right right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and don't you forget that. And you know, the people
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia rabbit about this. They're gonna have about I
Speaker 1: think three thousand people maybe uh in the stadium. Uh.
Speaker 1: They haven't been having people for their home games, but
Speaker 1: as the Cowboys have rapped out some tickets to the
Speaker 1: highest bidder, Boy, you believe it's gonna be some booze
Speaker 1: up in that stadium booing. Yeah, I told you, guys, Nate,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw it. My son he
Speaker 1: saw where in Philadelphia the sound guy didn't put he
Speaker 1: didn't put on the boo recording. He typed boo right
Speaker 1: type boo. So yeah, that's pretty cool. Well, hopefully the
Speaker 1: Cowboys bus can get to their hotel, right. They've been
Speaker 1: having some problems in Philadelphia downtown these last couple of days,
Speaker 1: So let's hope everything's up. Life gets in the way.
Speaker 1: And before I forget this, I want to do this
Speaker 1: because I know you guys are with me. Um Our
Speaker 1: regards to her battle three times super Bowl winning and
Speaker 1: one with one with the Cowboys, one with the Cowboy
Speaker 1: one two with the Packers. Growing up, he was my guy.
Speaker 1: You know, I was a Packers fan right in Chicago,
Speaker 1: and uh and he was my guy. He was awfully,
Speaker 1: awfully good. Then came here. Uh and I saw a
Speaker 1: tweet from Gil Brandt saying that he solidified that defense
Speaker 1: in seventy one. Right, he was the glue. He was
Speaker 1: the Dion when they when they brought Dion in to
Speaker 1: show these guys up in the nineties. That's kind of
Speaker 1: the way Addlie was brought was already short up. He
Speaker 1: just uh was an added it. Well you had had
Speaker 1: you wanted to say he was a right well yeah,
Speaker 1: Mail you had uh guy? What a second day Cornell
Speaker 1: Green mel renfro Right, Yeah, herb addele that's three out
Speaker 1: of four right there. That was some bad boys. Boys,
Speaker 1: some bad boys. Yeah, absolutely So anyway, Herb Baddeley passed.
Speaker 1: Remember just so you know, he talked U fifteen years
Speaker 1: ago about his experience in Dallas and even though he
Speaker 1: did enjoy being with the Cowboys, he wanted to let
Speaker 1: the Packers fans know that he's a true Packer. Right. Well, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I can't. I just I couldn't believe they let him go.
Speaker 1: That was the thing that stunned me. That was like
Speaker 1: they thought he was done and then he came here
Speaker 1: and had another good season. All right. So the Cowboys
Speaker 1: heading into this game, and from everything that we've heard today,
Speaker 1: it sure sounds like Ben Denucci is the starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy did not want to like say, okay, he's
Speaker 1: the starter. But then he pointed out that, well, for
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton to start, he would have to practice on
Speaker 1: Saturday because that's our last full day. And he said,
Speaker 1: and he's not scheduled to practice on Saturday, so something
Speaker 1: would dramatically have to happen for him to start in
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, when Jerry Jones did his
Speaker 1: radio intersegment this morning, he just said that, uh, well
Speaker 1: we'll see Andy Dalton next week. So Ben de Nucci
Speaker 1: is your starting quarterback. It has come to that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in their third string quarterback having to start in
Speaker 1: this game. Dalton still in the concussion protocol and we
Speaker 1: know Daku is out for the season. So do you
Speaker 1: guys have any any feel for de Nucci? Naton? We
Speaker 1: saw him a little bit in training camp, but that
Speaker 1: was it, right. He's James Madison products, same as Charles Haley.
Speaker 1: He's a he's a work hard guy. He's a great,
Speaker 1: great athlete. He can run, he's got good quickness. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, and I and I'm ready. You know everything
Speaker 1: that I've been a part of this week, uh, media wise,
Speaker 1: I've said I'm ready for the Denucci Nucci era. And
Speaker 1: if he say, what do you mean by that? And
Speaker 1: I mean that he signifies that there is a permanent
Speaker 1: change coming in Dallas with young guys. Good lord, we'll
Speaker 1: see the kid out of youthy, the demons of men a. Nay,
Speaker 1: we will see more of Hamilton. We will see just
Speaker 1: a bunch of young guys. And that's what I mean
Speaker 1: by the Denuccia era. Uh. It makes your offensive coordinating
Speaker 1: head coach look back quickly into his past and see
Speaker 1: the things that he liked and what correlates with their
Speaker 1: program to get him gone. I'm excited. I'm excited as
Speaker 1: I has been, as I've been Walls and Makeing years,
Speaker 1: because whether it's it's forced or whether it's just something
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys want to do, a change is coming.
Speaker 1: And it's called a youth movement. And I'm not always
Speaker 1: about you a youth movement. But the last time we
Speaker 1: had one, it was Jimmy Johnson and Everson Walls around
Speaker 1: off fifteen rounds. And and hold that thought, because when
Speaker 1: you when you said that about all my part, I
Speaker 1: give my part, guys, great sacrifice my career. And then
Speaker 1: they brought in the youth right. So that's a good point, Nate,
Speaker 1: because think about this, if if if Denuci this is
Speaker 1: his opportunity right now, think about this, if if they
Speaker 1: like what they see. And remember Andy Dalton's on a
Speaker 1: one year contract, so next year and we're gonna assume
Speaker 1: Dak comes back and he's Dak, you're gonna need a
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. So basically what he's interviewing for right now
Speaker 1: is maybe that job going forward next year. So if
Speaker 1: he plays well, then uh, you know it is what
Speaker 1: it is? Are we looking at him stepping up into
Speaker 1: the second spot? Uh? I mean even with that, let's
Speaker 1: say Dalton doesn't doesn't feel well even after this weekend,
Speaker 1: right and has a great game or just a decent game,
Speaker 1: and we win the game. Let's say he manages well.
Speaker 1: Is that enough to move him up to the backup Well,
Speaker 1: it was enough for it was enough for White and
Speaker 1: these other guys who didn't even play. It's enough. I
Speaker 1: have respect for coach mccarthur his ability of what he
Speaker 1: think a quarterback is. I really do. And that's why
Speaker 1: I probably don't uh sit well with a lot of
Speaker 1: higher ups because I believe that coach mccarthur should be
Speaker 1: calling in the plays, you know, and and helping this
Speaker 1: young quarterback developed, because, believe it or not, whether these
Speaker 1: quarterbacks were he got a lot of quarterbacks paid up
Speaker 1: under upon the Aaron Rodgers. A lot of quarterbacks played
Speaker 1: one year, three games and got paid millions. So it's
Speaker 1: something to this guy man. Uh Brunell, Yeah, Brunell. No,
Speaker 1: the guy that who ended up going who went to Seattle.
Speaker 1: I was trying to remember. But he got ten million
Speaker 1: dollars to get beat out by by a rookie, right, yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: we'll see what it happens. And you know, they they
Speaker 1: adjusted the offense last week. They went more two tight ends, yes,
Speaker 1: shorter routes, sir, Which is kind of funny because they
Speaker 1: did these adjustments and everybody goes, well, why didn't they
Speaker 1: change the offense? Well they did, they changed it. Why
Speaker 1: didn't they throw the ball down the field? Well, because
Speaker 1: he didn't have time. We can start right there. This
Speaker 1: is the first time in a long time, and and
Speaker 1: you noticed it with Dak being gone that uh offensive
Speaker 1: line for the first time in a long time. I
Speaker 1: couldn't say great job, coach, Fieldman, because from the opening
Speaker 1: play they was coming. They saw what the previous team
Speaker 1: the Cardinals had did with those double blitzes off the
Speaker 1: end with the corner safety, you didn't know which one
Speaker 1: was coming, and they got after us many they maintained
Speaker 1: their one on one blocks and it did not matter
Speaker 1: because they had safeties in line backers. With time, they
Speaker 1: rushes and then when that didn't happen, they took they
Speaker 1: did what they had to do with them first five
Speaker 1: them five five rounds, first picks. That was in the
Speaker 1: first round. And boy, this is the first time I
Speaker 1: can say, man, office, well do you give do you
Speaker 1: give him a pass for that? When I say a
Speaker 1: pass meaning you can understand all of this inexperience versus
Speaker 1: five first round draft picks, I mean, it's what you're
Speaker 1: expected to happen, right When if these guys were seniors
Speaker 1: in college, if they would all stay in college, have
Speaker 1: been twenty two years old. And that's what these guys were,
Speaker 1: twenty two year old guys playing against first round picks.
Speaker 1: If if they were in college this they would be
Speaker 1: killing folks, right, But you're in the pros man different
Speaker 1: and that is the difference. And like I said, they
Speaker 1: tried to ski, they tried to do everything. They power.
Speaker 1: But sometime you have to be smart enough. And I
Speaker 1: know I am, and you are Walls and you are
Speaker 1: Mick that sometimes you're just not gonna win. You gotta
Speaker 1: know that. Personal that was a perfect match. I thought
Speaker 1: it was a perfect matter. I thought de Nucci said
Speaker 1: it best. After the game, someone asked him about playing
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yes, sir, and he goes, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a difference. He goes at James Madison, I didn't
Speaker 1: play against no Chase Young Pyne. Yeah, no not or yeah,
Speaker 1: on the same team. You know, it's just amazing that. Uh,
Speaker 1: we hate losing. We hate as players, Mickey, as you
Speaker 1: coming up in your life, you always try to win
Speaker 1: everything you've done. We hate losing her. But I, for
Speaker 1: the first time in a very long time, I see
Speaker 1: the big picture, and the big picture is youth and
Speaker 1: enthusiasm and learning to do things in the probing. Right.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you hate losing, but as a professional,
Speaker 1: you have to know how to lose. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: you have to know what your your reaction has to
Speaker 1: be professional. Yes, that loss should inspire you or teach
Speaker 1: you something. Yes, that's the way we always looked at it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got my butt whipped, but I'm not gonna get
Speaker 1: I might get my butt whipped again, but not the
Speaker 1: same way. Fashion. Yeah, so you're gonna have to do
Speaker 1: something different. That's that's the the monica. Pretty much every
Speaker 1: athlete or coach, you can't. We can't let things keep
Speaker 1: happening the same way. And that's the issue that we have.
Speaker 1: On the defensive side. I'm gonna go back offensively. Uh
Speaker 1: And you know, Stags and Bill and I've been talking
Speaker 1: about this. I want to know your take on we
Speaker 1: talked about Washington. What about that that that Amazona defense.
Speaker 1: I was very surprised I was, and just how good
Speaker 1: they were, especially in the secondary. I'm talking a D
Speaker 1: line for you. That's what I'm saying. Everybody was worried
Speaker 1: about Challenger Jones. I almost call you that week, Mick,
Speaker 1: and I want to tell everybody they had fourteen sacks
Speaker 1: coming into that game and Challenger Jones only had one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that he's the Vince Vince Joseph, their defensive quarterback, quarterback
Speaker 1: on the coordinator. Used to be the head coach for Denver.
Speaker 1: Now he's their coordinator. And he put up a scheme
Speaker 1: and man Budda Baker their corner pieces. You didn't know
Speaker 1: who was blitzing. And a lot of times you saw
Speaker 1: both our tackles after plays where the quarterback's been hitting
Speaker 1: like I didn't know I had that guy, I didn't
Speaker 1: know where the protection was. He did a great job
Speaker 1: of scheming, and those guys showed up big time, so
Speaker 1: that did not shot him. And I tried to tell
Speaker 1: my guys all week, hey man, the defensive coordinators coming.
Speaker 1: And that is where I would say again that I
Speaker 1: would like to see our head coach match wits with
Speaker 1: difference coordinators. So did you notice that Washington did the
Speaker 1: same thing, Yes, sir, early in the game and and
Speaker 1: twenty six to safety blew his achilles out played for
Speaker 1: the Giants. I can't think of his name, Collins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm telling guys on my shop, Brod, this is coming.
Speaker 1: Get ready for the double blitz. Whether it's the safety
Speaker 1: out of the corner, you don't know which one is coming.
Speaker 1: We have to be prepared for that. Early in the game, boom.
Speaker 1: And then the first time he did it Cowboys right side, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: if I remember, Crag and Bill talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 1: The offensive tackle took the small guy, yes, sir, and
Speaker 1: left the big guy for Zeke. Yeah, you got to
Speaker 1: do it the other way around, right, So yes, sir?
Speaker 1: Do you have is that? And what choice to make
Speaker 1: as a lineman, like the choice to make is whoever's inside.
Speaker 1: If they're both equally blitzing the guy that comes inside,
Speaker 1: you have to take let the outside guy go. That
Speaker 1: is either the running back out, the quarterback and the
Speaker 1: receiver has to see where as you saw in that
Speaker 1: game before where we did the same thing to the
Speaker 1: Cardinals but all Fitzgerald, and Fitzgerald just turned around. He
Speaker 1: didn't even go off the line, He just turned around
Speaker 1: to whenever you read I see the blitz, dude tossed
Speaker 1: it to him for the first down. That's when he stripped.
Speaker 1: It's so many things that go into a scheme. You
Speaker 1: know that walls, You know that, Mickey, and we're not
Speaker 1: experienced enough as an offensive line. They are battling, they're fighting.
Speaker 1: When they know who to get, they can latch on
Speaker 1: to him. But a lot of times this scheme that
Speaker 1: these teams are branking these days, and it's all recommition,
Speaker 1: and that's what happens with experience, right, And you're playing
Speaker 1: with a bunch of pups out there. Yeah. So so
Speaker 1: it's about time we take a break. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I've got I want to go to this offensive line
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Speaker 1: Nate used to be are talking Cowboys. Partner up me
Speaker 1: in on this thing. Man. We need we need our
Speaker 1: ace from the bullpen. That's right, absolutely, dude. So going forward,
Speaker 1: we were talking about the offensive line. Can one guy
Speaker 1: make a difference. Zack Martin will be back at right
Speaker 1: guard this game. He missed the last game in concussion protocol,
Speaker 1: got knocked out of the previous game, and they were
Speaker 1: with another guy making his NFL debut, Connor McGovern, who
Speaker 1: I think this last game played decently. But can Zack
Speaker 1: Martin give this offensive line something that they can kind
Speaker 1: of hang their hat on. Yes, Yes, Zach is cool,
Speaker 1: He's calm, He's an ultimate professional. He's VERNI a Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl office, not true all pro, not one of them
Speaker 1: vote ins out of eight people. Man, just a great individual. Man,
Speaker 1: It's just a great individual. He bring calmness to that room.
Speaker 1: H And when they look out on I feel they'll
Speaker 1: see how it's supposed to be done, whether things whether
Speaker 1: some adversity has been there, or whether things have been great,
Speaker 1: you'll see a calm, cool customer, and so it will
Speaker 1: build help. Now the question you have to ask and
Speaker 1: I and I don't want to move him. I want
Speaker 1: him to stay read at the right guard regation But
Speaker 1: now do you say Connor McGovern is a better right guard,
Speaker 1: then still is a better right tackle. So you have
Speaker 1: to ask that question because you have to have the
Speaker 1: best guys out there. You know, Ben Denutche is not
Speaker 1: a throwaway piece. We have to stop drafting guys in
Speaker 1: the field the sixth round and thinking that though that
Speaker 1: they're not cannot do that. Yeah, so you know, you
Speaker 1: never know who might be playing. Do you put the
Speaker 1: best five out there? I'm open for anything that makes
Speaker 1: this team better and gives them opportunity to play well.
Speaker 1: Notice I didn't say win a game. I say to
Speaker 1: play well and to start building for next year. So
Speaker 1: you mentioned right tackle, What about left tackle? Can can
Speaker 1: can Connor McGovern play better right guard than Cam Irving
Speaker 1: can play left tackle? Well, the thing about it, you
Speaker 1: gotta leave Cam even though he's not uh, he's just
Speaker 1: an average left tackle all right tackle. Leave him out there,
Speaker 1: and you put the big fellah, the President at the
Speaker 1: right tackle. You know you don't as much as I
Speaker 1: love the President that thing over the left. It's a
Speaker 1: whole different beat. All right, Which one did you get?
Speaker 1: I went to the right tack? You went right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: even though mister Wootton tried to sign me with the
Speaker 1: Eagles that left side, Miss Wooden, As you think I'm crazy,
Speaker 1: I ain't even to be out of the league. Well,
Speaker 1: look this is Nate Newton. Fam you HBCU could dunk
Speaker 1: a basketball right in college and sim on that left side,
Speaker 1: but you wanted me to be. But I was not
Speaker 1: gonna be dumb enough to be out of the league. See,
Speaker 1: we don't question Zach Martin from left guard all the
Speaker 1: way the right tackle, right, I promise you. Over the
Speaker 1: left left, time will question. So he stayed at tackle
Speaker 1: and had to mess with drama. Right man, come on,
Speaker 1: let's move on. Okay, can I can I ask the question? Okay,
Speaker 1: here's what Here's here's what I heard on the way in.
Speaker 1: And of course that man in my mistake because I
Speaker 1: never listened to the sports talk radio because I just
Speaker 1: think they come up with all kind of crazy stuff,
Speaker 1: getting rid of Everson Griffin, getting rid of Poe, getting
Speaker 1: rid of worldly. Are we throwing in the towel? Yes
Speaker 1: we are, Yes, yes we are not. We are not
Speaker 1: trying to win the division this year. You still have
Speaker 1: opportunity because we're so bad, Thank god, division, We're so bad. Okay,
Speaker 1: you have an opportunity, but you have to play mistake free,
Speaker 1: no turnovers type of football. Now I'm not saying the
Speaker 1: Cowboys can't do that, but these are young guys. I
Speaker 1: mean our nay out of Utah. The outside linebacker who's
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of run. He's gonna see some
Speaker 1: things he ain't seen before, you know that ever since
Speaker 1: you know, And so we're asking for Big Hamilton Uh
Speaker 1: to come in and do some things and to play
Speaker 1: and be exposed and more than just fifteen plays per game.
Speaker 1: Guys gonna you know, gonna find out. Man, I ain't
Speaker 1: even shape as I thought I was so mentally, and
Speaker 1: you know, if you're breathing hard, you know what hit
Speaker 1: his neck is the head like fatigue ys Kyle was
Speaker 1: of us all. So, yeah, they got to work. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna disagree with you, Okay, yes, sir, you because
Speaker 1: they got rid of two thirds of that was dead weight. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was literally yeah. And I said this RV and
Speaker 1: I said this yesterday. Huh. So they've got three guys
Speaker 1: that are getting ready to come off of injured reserve, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: So they got rid of three guys right that we're
Speaker 1: gonna be here next year, that's right. So they hung
Speaker 1: on to what you've been proposing, the young guys, right,
Speaker 1: So at some point, well this it sounds like Cheeto's
Speaker 1: gonna play the way they talk. Maybe not the whole thing,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna play. So they gotta take him off
Speaker 1: of injured reserve. That means they would have had to
Speaker 1: cut somebody. Well, they already did. Shahn Lee at some
Speaker 1: points coming off, either at the end of this week
Speaker 1: or next week, you gotta make another spot. There's a
Speaker 1: a spot there open. And then at some point Joe
Speaker 1: Looney's coming off. You gotta make another spot. So now
Speaker 1: you got three guys coming off of r You just
Speaker 1: opened three spots, Okay, and we don't need to get
Speaker 1: into Don Terry Poe right, Okay, Right, But what I'm
Speaker 1: saying here is they open up three good spots, you know,
Speaker 1: guys that are not gonna be here. Only one of
Speaker 1: them was productive and that was Griffin. Okay, but still, uh,
Speaker 1: Looney is a guy we need. Uh. I love Sean Lee,
Speaker 1: and I've always fought for him to be on his team,
Speaker 1: more as a coach than a player. He's already coaching. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so if he don't play a snap, it won't bother
Speaker 1: me Sean Lee, because I'm already moved on, you know,
Speaker 1: and I pray that he's on this coaching staff. But
Speaker 1: other than that, right there, we're good, man, Okay, so good.
Speaker 1: So tell me this. Joe Looney's back right, you're gonna leave, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I am I. When you make this move, don't go backwards.
Speaker 1: You cannot make this move and go back. This is
Speaker 1: the youth movement you're talking about. Yeah, even that linebacker,
Speaker 1: I want to see. They got another kid, number forty four.
Speaker 1: Can't call his name, Bernard, Bernard. Let him play. Let
Speaker 1: these kids play and learn, and the teams and I
Speaker 1: promise you if they can get through Pittsburgh, the Ravens
Speaker 1: survived that we went through some bad times. Well, let's
Speaker 1: be clear, survived. What does that mean exactly? Because because physically, yeah,
Speaker 1: let me tell you what. Man. The reason I'm thinking
Speaker 1: I'm glad it's a youth movement because I use Diggs.
Speaker 1: If Diggs would have stayed with this present team, that
Speaker 1: would before they stopped making these cuts. That is not
Speaker 1: good for Diggs because you're seeing lazy guys that don't
Speaker 1: care about the system in this situation. What does that
Speaker 1: show Digs? Digs out there trying to play it's hard out,
Speaker 1: getting burned week in the week out, trying to battle
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you got guys in front
Speaker 1: of it. Man, I don't know how you're doing all that. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: how you put our knee in there? You put even
Speaker 1: atwine Woods have been playing good. Tyron Crawford is starting
Speaker 1: to come back in the shape. You got guys that care. Now,
Speaker 1: this kid said, okay, we're losing. We got some dogs
Speaker 1: out here, and that's what exactly what they need. But
Speaker 1: but just remember they needed to create three See, I'm
Speaker 1: glad they created and they didn't get rid of young guys.
Speaker 1: And the thing with Looney, so I agree with you,
Speaker 1: be honest. Yeah, it's it's almost like in eighty nine
Speaker 1: Stepnoski finally took over for Tom Rafferty. Yes, right, and
Speaker 1: let's go right, that's that's the future. Uh Joe Looney
Speaker 1: serves a purpose because he can be your backup center
Speaker 1: everything and guard. Yeah right, yeah, no tackle, no, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. But the key thing, because see what
Speaker 1: they had to do last week is they had to
Speaker 1: bring uh Marcus Henry off the practice squad and make
Speaker 1: him active and he was the backup center. So basically
Speaker 1: you had a backup center, a backup guard, and a
Speaker 1: backup tackle, which is snat that we haven't seen yet.
Speaker 1: But but before with Looney was the backup, you only
Speaker 1: had to have two seven offensive lineman active. So I
Speaker 1: think he serves a better purpose there. I heard a
Speaker 1: lot of people say, well, they need to start him
Speaker 1: at guard. I don't. I don't know. It's a better
Speaker 1: guard than than than the two that you had. And
Speaker 1: I think they would have started him because you need
Speaker 1: your best five, right, you know, even though our division
Speaker 1: is not great and you have to prepare, you know,
Speaker 1: we laugh. But the Stillers showed you what they were
Speaker 1: made of last week, brother and and and they've always
Speaker 1: shot to me and the Ravens. They went out and
Speaker 1: out of the piece. So yeah, you you better, you
Speaker 1: better have your best five offers a linement and the
Speaker 1: because they don't have to bring safeties and corners, even
Speaker 1: though the Reskians have to do that either. They did,
Speaker 1: so it only gets better. Man, So what do you
Speaker 1: expect from Jim Schwartz. He's coming after him, just the
Speaker 1: way the other two. Yeah, man, I've heard I've heard
Speaker 1: that mister Schwartz even off the football feeling a nice,
Speaker 1: very intense heard that man, no, no, he chased down
Speaker 1: you saw he chased down, uh, the San Francisco coach
Speaker 1: back when when Harball was the man. I mean he
Speaker 1: chased him down because he said shook his hand too hard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was exciting, you know, Harball easy. Yeah, we won
Speaker 1: the game. It was in Detroit. Schwartz was the head
Speaker 1: coach at the time. He was upset. Yeah, he said
Speaker 1: that was too rigorous and he chased him down. And
Speaker 1: Hardballs like you what's your deal? And and Schwartzen like
Speaker 1: you know my dealers. He's already bucked up, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he always he ain't calling some bad names. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he coming now he's coming with So can I
Speaker 1: can ask you something, Joe Thomas, what is his status?
Speaker 1: So with with vander esh playing, yes, at middle linebacker,
Speaker 1: he'll be probably the backup at all three positions. But
Speaker 1: the key thing is is what Sean Lee when he
Speaker 1: comes back? Yeah, you know do they do? They put
Speaker 1: him as the strongs because they still haven't played a
Speaker 1: true four three right, because they've been standing up a
Speaker 1: defensive end over there as a strong side lineback. It's
Speaker 1: almost too late, it's almost too late. You've vent, you vent,
Speaker 1: you're in this transition and to go back and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: well we're gonna learn some new some new ideas. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about young guys. The old guys they make him
Speaker 1: make that transition. But now you're talking about telling the
Speaker 1: young guys. They don't spend seven eight weeks plus training
Speaker 1: camp trying to learn what you've taught them. Now some
Speaker 1: of the principles may change. They'll be like, come on, coach,
Speaker 1: you already I'm already staring in the backfield, which you
Speaker 1: want me to do. Now, why can't we be divers
Speaker 1: to be able to play both well? Because you haven't
Speaker 1: had enough practice time. I was listening to a guy
Speaker 1: talk about the New England Patriots, and I think it's
Speaker 1: the guy that does Monday night football, the black guy
Speaker 1: that does Monday night football. He said, the greatest asset
Speaker 1: that Belichick had at New England was it ain't that
Speaker 1: his players are so much smarter. It's just that from
Speaker 1: eight o'clock in the morning to five o'clock in the evening,
Speaker 1: you have like eighteen you watch film, then you go
Speaker 1: out in your way to do it. Yeah, you watch film,
Speaker 1: then you go out in the ploy. Except he doesn't
Speaker 1: know what he's talking about because they have time limits
Speaker 1: on that stuff. Yeah, but but see what he was
Speaker 1: doing giving away secrets. And this is a funny thing
Speaker 1: about it. Some some coaches don't care about the fine,
Speaker 1: and he is one of those coaches. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you another coach that don't care about the fines.
Speaker 1: It's Pete Carroll. He does the same thing. Had him,
Speaker 1: had him walk throughs and practices he ain't supposed to,
Speaker 1: but he's still having Then. I always talk about zoom.
Speaker 1: I mean, nothing stops you and your fellow defensive backs
Speaker 1: or linebackers a offensive lineman from getting on zoom and
Speaker 1: talking about what's what we need to do and then
Speaker 1: the different changes we need to make. To me, man,
Speaker 1: if you get you know, we got paid decent money
Speaker 1: when we played you, and we got paid a lot
Speaker 1: of money back then. People just be like if I
Speaker 1: made all the money Nate news. Come on, bro, we
Speaker 1: played got paid great money. It wasn't millions. Okay, millions
Speaker 1: change the way you think me, But we should play
Speaker 1: one hundreds and hundred thousand year dollars the billiest change millions. Man.
Speaker 1: When you tell them, man, I make one million dollars,
Speaker 1: people think you rich. You know, they don't know that
Speaker 1: you're fit to pay, but like four hundred thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: you should. You should feel obligated. Okay, if I'm getting
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Speaker 1: And so if it's Friday, you know we need to
Speaker 1: get to our pick click and our picks for the game.
Speaker 1: I know what your guys picks are, so we can
Speaker 1: probably bypass that unless you got a good score for us.
Speaker 1: But Nate, give me somebody that you think that this
Speaker 1: is the game that they're they're gonna They're gonna put
Speaker 1: their hand up in the air and say, hey, I'm here.
Speaker 1: That's right, baby, Who's gonna be that that Nate's gonna
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be uh uh, the young guy
Speaker 1: our name from Utah. I mean, I think, giving enough reps,
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna raise his hand and say I'm here.
Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna be the big guy, the
Speaker 1: big Hamilton seventy nine. Now, yeah, I think he'll raise
Speaker 1: his hand to say I'm here. I've been so how
Speaker 1: many how many snaps. Do you think Randy Gregory can
Speaker 1: get He only got six last week? Can he get
Speaker 1: that to thirty twenty? All I hope for Randy Gregory
Speaker 1: right now is that he suited up the rest of
Speaker 1: the season and whatever he gives, he gives. But he
Speaker 1: has to be a guy that we can start to
Speaker 1: depend on and until we see him ramp up for
Speaker 1: the rest of this season and all of them next season.
Speaker 1: I would just take whatever he give him and just
Speaker 1: and just have him just stay stay, stay clear upstairs,
Speaker 1: as that's what I went for the most. A good Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's how you tell most people that's great athletes.
Speaker 1: You know, you have a team for the great athletes. Man,
Speaker 1: if you just study and play as hard as you
Speaker 1: can win in to take care of itself. And I
Speaker 1: think the same thing for Gregory. You think Aldon Smith's
Speaker 1: presence can help him out too? Yeah, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you band together in the right and positive way, you know.
Speaker 1: And uh, as long as you don't let them go
Speaker 1: off campus by themselves, and nobody should be going off campus. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a pick to click with the news going
Speaker 1: out and really having his first best preparation preparation time
Speaker 1: I think considering all of that, we're gonna get the
Speaker 1: ball out fast. Anytime you're dealing with a young quarterback,
Speaker 1: you want to pick the receivers at the closest to
Speaker 1: you and pick the easiest targets. I'm looking at uh
Speaker 1: Dalton Scholtz to do well. I'm looking for him to
Speaker 1: be the main talk. Of course, CD is gonna have
Speaker 1: to pull him out. So but then run situation. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be stacking the line, so we're gonna be running
Speaker 1: Zeke and we're gonna pull it out the quickest man,
Speaker 1: the most immediate person to look at his shots, all right,
Speaker 1: and i gotta give you a score two and I've
Speaker 1: got to get around it. Okay, we'll get around to score.
Speaker 1: So my pick to click, and I'm gonna turn back
Speaker 1: the clock to Thanksgiving of nineteen ninety four. Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: had to start because they lost Rodney Pete. Yes, the
Speaker 1: backup Troy was out and Jason was going to start,
Speaker 1: and before the game, his wife Brill told him that, hey,
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is throw it up high and
Speaker 1: Elvin Harper will come down with right. Eddie did and
Speaker 1: Alvin har For did right. So my pick is going
Speaker 1: to be Michael Gallup because all you gotta do is
Speaker 1: throw it up high and he'll come down with it.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I wanted to point this out
Speaker 1: to you guys and did a little research last night.
Speaker 1: Cowboys rookie quarterbacks making their first NFL start, only one
Speaker 1: of them in all the years actually started the game
Speaker 1: as a rookie, finished the game as a rookie, and
Speaker 1: won first start, first start. You want to guess m
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I probably nineteen sixty nine, Roger Starbuck started
Speaker 1: the season opener and led the Cowboys to a twenty
Speaker 1: four three victory over the Saint Louis Cardinals. Wow, all right,
Speaker 1: now there's alternating no that he started that game. I
Speaker 1: guess Morton must have been hurt. Uh, and he started
Speaker 1: it was his only start of the season. Now there's
Speaker 1: a couple of asteris. There's there's a couple of asteris
Speaker 1: in this in this stat because I saw I went
Speaker 1: back and looked and somebody said, oh, Kevin Sweeney eighty seven, right,
Speaker 1: but it was a strike. It was a strike game, right,
Speaker 1: So I put an asterisk by that one, okay. Uh.
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety three, Troy was hurt again, and Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett started the game. He played two possessions, they were
Speaker 1: up three nothing, and then they brought in Bernie Kozar.
Speaker 1: So it's hard for me to say Jason won his
Speaker 1: first NFL start, right, so uh. And then in two
Speaker 1: thousand and four, Drew Henson started on Thanksgiving Day. They
Speaker 1: were kind of finally see what he was about. He
Speaker 1: played a half and Bill had seen enough. It completed
Speaker 1: like four of twelve or thirteen passes. You got intercepted
Speaker 1: for an interception, return for a touchdown, and Bill pulls them,
Speaker 1: brings in Vinny Testaverdy and they won the game. But
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to say, Okay, he gets to
Speaker 1: wine and so so and all the other all the
Speaker 1: other rookie quarterbacks that started their first game. They lost me.
Speaker 1: You did a great job of them giving us the
Speaker 1: rules and the regulations, and you broke them all. You say,
Speaker 1: give us the quarterback who started fish leading the game,
Speaker 1: and you went all the way. I gave you the
Speaker 1: one that did. I just didn't want anybody to go,
Speaker 1: oh no, wait. Kevin Sweeney in nineteen eighty seven, You know,
Speaker 1: this is the age of social media. Everybody wants to
Speaker 1: get something in man. So anyway, I've I've kind of
Speaker 1: documented that in my column for today on Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: dot Com, saying this is the second time only in
Speaker 1: the last five years that the or since two thousand
Speaker 1: and four, that the Cowboys started a rookie quarterback. Dak
Speaker 1: started And now pick click, my pick, the clicks gonna
Speaker 1: be Michael Gallop. He's gonna throw it up high to
Speaker 1: Michael Gallips like that, right, And there's us on the
Speaker 1: big screen here. So do you uh got any prediction
Speaker 1: score over there, Nate Newton or just Cowboys win. I
Speaker 1: know what the Cowboys need to do to win, and
Speaker 1: that is, uh, they can't get wins to throw a
Speaker 1: couple of interceptions. He's been you know, at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the season, the first four or five games, he
Speaker 1: had like ten picks and so what eight picks and
Speaker 1: but now he's got ten. Yeah, So if they can
Speaker 1: get him to put the ball on the ground, because
Speaker 1: he will move around and run and he will throw
Speaker 1: some some bad balls. He will throw something bad he throws,
Speaker 1: so many can get that with no turnovers on us none,
Speaker 1: what's up? We have a chance to win. And uh,
Speaker 1: so that's what I believe no score. Uh yeah, always
Speaker 1: Cowboys winning. Always. It sounds like me. I always think
Speaker 1: talking Cowboys gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with U.
Speaker 1: Of course Cowboys win, it's gonna be ugly. I told
Speaker 1: you if we're gonna win any any win that we
Speaker 1: have it throughout this the next this year is gonna
Speaker 1: be an ugly win. That's the only way we can.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at Cowboys winning seventeen to fourteen, gonna
Speaker 1: hold them to fourteen points, hold them to fourteen. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get those picks. We're getting those picks, and we're
Speaker 1: not scoring many points ourselves. I'd be very surprised if
Speaker 1: we did all right, And I vowed last week after
Speaker 1: picking them to beat Washington, then if I wasn't right
Speaker 1: that I will not pick them again until they win
Speaker 1: too straight, straight, too straight, Oh my god, which means again,
Speaker 1: I yeah, I've got the you know what, I've got
Speaker 1: the Eagles, but twenty one twenty and I think this
Speaker 1: is going to be closer than most folks think because
Speaker 1: just what you guys pointed out, they've turned the ball over.
Speaker 1: Cowboys have sixteen turnovers to lead the league. Philadelphia has thirteen.
Speaker 1: They just have some takeaways that right exactly, so they'll
Speaker 1: they'll maybe give you the ball. The thing is they
Speaker 1: can't turn the ball over. And how about helping out
Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback. Don't ask him to score thirty points
Speaker 1: to win the game. Defense has got to step up
Speaker 1: and it'll be it'd be really nice, really nice if
Speaker 1: at one point the rookie quarterback gets the ball at
Speaker 1: the eagles thirty five yard line, right, give him a
Speaker 1: short field. That would help out. And what everybody's talking
Speaker 1: about out Denucci, I'm talking about the offensive line and
Speaker 1: defense and if those two factors can come through, then
Speaker 1: he's got a chance. But if they don't hit everybody else,
Speaker 1: this is a week way. Zeke, sh it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1: They're gonna stack it. I mean, I don't if you're
Speaker 1: a Philly, what are you doing? Run option? Snatch that
Speaker 1: thing out of Let that quarterback take as you know what.
Speaker 1: I don't think people know he can run. Oh we do.
Speaker 1: Don't say it out loud. They already have seen the
Speaker 1: film like Jimmy did against Buffalo. They've seen as James
Speaker 1: Madison tape. Zeke was pretty funny. Did you hear what
Speaker 1: he said. Somebody asked him about things that Denucci did
Speaker 1: in college, and he goes, I don't even know where
Speaker 1: i'd go to find James Madison tape spoken like a
Speaker 1: p WI person. That's what's so. Anyway, as Bill Parcel said,
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks not out there playing singles, right. This is
Speaker 1: a team deal, and so they need to do what
Speaker 1: they have to do to help the rookie quarterback in
Speaker 1: this situation who's coming in and playing his first NFL
Speaker 1: start without any preseason snaps. Basically a week's full of
Speaker 1: snaps with the offensive line at the first team offense.
Speaker 1: That's unbelievable, but welcome to We're about to see it.
Speaker 1: But as Denucci said, it's twenty twenty and that's it
Speaker 1: for mick shots. Nate Newton, thanks a lot for good
Speaker 1: to have you here. Ever since you have a good weekend.
Speaker 1: I'm Mickey Spagnola, Chris, thanks for setting all this up.
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