1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome on in everybody to the Clay 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Buck is in solo today. 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: I guess I was speaking the third person there for 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: a second, but you will not be here and from 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: my Ston co host at least a little later in 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: the program, as he is out on the golf course today. 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: He is playing in the live program out in Bedminster, 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: So he's on the golf course. But I'm holding down 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: the fort and we got a lot of news today. 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Of course, the biggest thing is the recession that is here. 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: I think we're we're gonna break this down for you. 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: We've also got Mansion pulling a last minute move to 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: save the Democrats Bacon, saving their butts from what's really 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: coming their way with this mid term elect So we 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: got Joe Mansion striking a last minute deal that they're 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: gonna say is anti inflationary, which is your guarantee that 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: the spend and tax provisions will hurt the economy and 19 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: be inflationary. But Joe Biden, I'm sorry, but Joe mentioned 20 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: brings home something for his state of West Virginia in 21 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: the package. I'm sure very transactional that fellow is and 22 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 1: Joe Biden gets to pretend that some piece of build 23 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: back better is actually going through and going to make 24 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: a difference here for people that are realizing, oh, the 25 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: economy is not good. The tale of to Joe's today 26 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: mansion and Biden. I think Biden is supposed to give 27 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: remarks here as I'm on the air, will discuss what 28 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: he says if it's worth hearing. I mean, I can 29 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: tell you right now it's gonna be her heart's good. 30 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: It's well on the right track. No, not a joke, 31 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: Not a joke, middle class, middle out, top down, left 32 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: or right, do the hokey pokey and turn it all 33 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: around up and down with the economy. You know whatever 34 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: he's gonna say, some nonsense. He is going to try 35 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: to redefined. He's going to redefine the recession term that 36 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: we all know has been used in common parlance for 37 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: how many years now of the last ten recessions, as 38 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: we've discussed with you, when they have had two two 39 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: quarters of negative growth, what have they said? It is 40 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: a recession. And yet now we're going to have the 41 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: regime media circle the wagons do everything in their power 42 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: to say, well, it's really complicated. It's really complicated right now. 43 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: You can't just nail it all down. So we will 44 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: discuss all of that. Plus, he got Pelosium maybe going 45 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: to China. I'm sorry to Taiwan, pardon me, and China 46 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: very upset about that. So Pelosi heading to Taiwan possibly, 47 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: and the Chinese Communist Party saying some pretty aggressive, pretty 48 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: bellicost things about that visit. Of course, China maintains that 49 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: Taiwan is a part of China, and the Free World says, 50 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: not so fast. But we're not as clear on this 51 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: as it seems we should be, as in what would 52 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: we do if China made a move on that island? 53 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: We will have that. And oh, we've also got jd 54 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: Vance joining us in a little bit. Sen at candidate 55 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 1: in the great state of Ohio and Carrie Lake, who 56 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: is in the mix for the gubernatorial race in Arizona. 57 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: Two great candidates would do really good things in those 58 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: respective jobs. So I mean we're racked in stack today, folks. 59 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: Got a if I have time, will also discuss more 60 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: of the crime situation. Ron to Santist down in Florida, 61 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: saying that ESG is going to get a rethink and 62 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: a rejection in his state. So we'll talk about that environmental, 63 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: social and governance criteria wokeness for corporations on a scale, folks, 64 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: that's what ESG is. Let's just dive in for a 65 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: moment here, before we get to the Joe Mansion, last 66 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: minute deal to have some piece of the Biden agenda 67 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: go through at a time when there's it's just reckless, folks. 68 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: It's obviously a bad idea, and yet nobody seems to 69 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: care about what the main economic indicators, at least none 70 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: of the Democrats seem to care about this. The FED chair. 71 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a tough day. What does the Fed 72 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: exist to do? What are they supposed to be getting 73 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: done as their primary you know, you know the thing. 74 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: You know, you had one job. What's the feds one job? 75 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: It's really to manage inflation, that's the primary thing. Have 76 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: they done a good job of that? Does anybody think 77 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: that the Fed looks like they're on it looks like 78 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: they've known what's going on here? No, if anything, politics 79 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: have been driving so much of the economic decision making 80 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: in a reckless, in an irresponsible fashion, and This was 81 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: true during the pandemic when we had you got to 82 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: know some of these numbers. It's jaw dropping when you 83 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: really start to pull it all to piece it all together. 84 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: Between twenty nineteen and August twenty twenty one, this was 85 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal, the US money supply grew 86 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: by five point five trillion dollars. That is a thirty 87 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: five percent increase in the money supply in a year 88 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: and a half. And this was mostly driven by the 89 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: Fed's purchases of treasuries and mortgage backed securities. So by 90 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty four, their journal estimates the 91 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: money supply will grow another five trillion. We are running 92 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: an experiment to see how quickly we can get inflation 93 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: to go in the wrong direction. Or we have been 94 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: running that experiment until they finally started bringing rates up, 95 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: and now we're in for the pain. This is all 96 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: cause and effect. You know, if you run up credit 97 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: card bills, if you spend too much money on a 98 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: credit card. In the beginning, it's great, You're like, I'm 99 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: just look at me. I've got a new Jet Ski, 100 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: I've just bought a whole bunch of new golf clubs. 101 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: I've got you know whatever it is right, and it 102 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: can feel like, well, that's not anything to worry about 103 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: because it just goes on my credit card. But yeah, 104 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: then you have to start paying the balance down. And 105 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: if you don't do that, then you have to start 106 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: dealing with the twenty percent or twenty nine percent APR 107 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. It's how people really get behind 108 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: right as you know, first thing you want to pay 109 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: down as high interest, high interest things like credit cards 110 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: whenever you can. But a lot of people are going 111 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: to be running up those credit card bills right now 112 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: because of the overall trajectory of the economy. But it's 113 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: caused an effect for you as an individual. Why isn't 114 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,559 Speaker 1: that clear at the government level as well. You print 115 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: too much money, you're gonna have inflation. Some of us 116 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: were saying, including me, you can't shut down your economy 117 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: because there's a virus out there that you're not going 118 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: to stop anyway. You can't just send people checks to 119 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: stay home. There's going to be a hangover from this. 120 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the hangover. You can't just spend two trillion 121 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: dollars as Joe Biden did right off the bat when 122 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: he comes into office, In addition to I just told 123 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: you about the trillions that were spent to expand the 124 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: monetary the money supply, what do they think was going 125 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: to happen? That's what I really want to ask some 126 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: of these people. Well, I want to ask you, jar 127 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: own Pal. I want to ask some of these experts, 128 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: what exactly did you think the result was going to be? 129 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: You thought it wouldn't be this. Remember, they thought inflation 130 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: was going to be They told us inflation would be transitory, 131 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: and that was absurd. They've also been saying for months 132 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: now and up until the last few days, there won't 133 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: be a recession. We are in a recession, and I 134 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be a quick one. I 135 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: think it's going to get ugly out there in the 136 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: economy for at least twelve d eighteen months. It's gonna 137 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: be a lot of economic suffering. Is gonna be job losses. 138 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: You're probably heading into the stagflation that we saw in 139 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: the seventies and the early eighties. This was preventable, but 140 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: there were people in charge who made really bad decisions. 141 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: And that's the part of this that there has to 142 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: be accountability for. And they're doing everything they can right now. 143 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean the spin you will feel you're gonna get 144 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: dizzy from it. You're gonna get dizzy from it. Oh, 145 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: it's not really a recession. Oh, this is just we're 146 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: on the right path. What does the wrong path feel like? 147 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: Someone should ask Joe Biden that if this is the 148 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: right path, what is the wrong path? How does that look? 149 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: Fifteen sent inflation, twenty percent inflation? I think, you know, 150 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: if we turn into Venezuela, I think we're all going 151 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: to realize that we're on the wrong path. But what 152 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: are our expectations? Biden told us that he would shut 153 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: down shut down the virus. He would not shut down 154 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: the economy, which one of those feels like it's been 155 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: more shut down exactly. You go. FED Chairman Jerome Powell. 156 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: He is trying to tell everybody that he's not about 157 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: to get into the definitions of this. They don't make 158 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: a judgment on that. But you know, there's some good stuff. 159 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: The FED doesn't make a judgment on that. You know, 160 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: we're focused on the dual mandate and using our tools 161 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: to achieve maxim employment and price stability. We don't we 162 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: don't say there is now a recession that kind of thing, 163 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: so that that wouldn't be something we do. What a 164 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: recession really is, it's a broad based declient across many 165 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: industries that you know that sustained for more than a 166 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: couple of months, and there are a bunch of specific 167 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: tests in it, and it just doesn't This doesn't seem 168 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: like that. Now, what we have right now doesn't seem 169 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: like that. And the real reason is that the labor 170 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: market is just sending such a signal of economic strengths 171 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: that it makes you really question the GDP data. But again, 172 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: that's not a decision that we that we make, and 173 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: we won't. We won't reach a conclusion one way or 174 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: another one that they keep telling us how great the 175 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: labor market is. I come across individuals all the time 176 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: who are saying they can't get people to do jobs 177 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: and so they're limited in their productivity. Everything from people 178 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: in aerospace and defense to restaurants to you know, operating 179 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: your local department store or drug store or whatever. They 180 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: can't get workers. This is this is how the great 181 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: labor market is supposed to be operating. And then you say, well, 182 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: shouldn't they just pay them more they'll get them, Well, 183 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: they say, they can't. There are supply chain disruptions. They've 184 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: already had to raise prices. In fact, they're raising prices 185 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: some of the biggest companies in the world. There was 186 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: a big piece earlier the week, earlier this week in 187 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: the journal about that too. They're just going to pass that. 188 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: You think you've felt the costs already, More costs are 189 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: going to be passed on the consumer. But what do 190 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: you think the people in charge, what do you think, Biden, 191 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: these economic propagandists, the Fed chairman, what do you think 192 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna say, sorry, we're idiots. No, of course not. 193 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, oh, this is great. In fact, this 194 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: was the best the White House trying to tell the 195 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: American people that the recession. You think recession means bad things, 196 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: but let me tell you peasants. White House wants you 197 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: to know, the recession is actually really good and healthy. 198 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: All signs are that this is a strong economy and 199 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: the probability of a recession within the next year is 200 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: not particularly elevated. It's a strong economy, and nothing about 201 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 1: it suggests that it's that it's close to or vulnerable 202 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: to a recession. I don't expect a recession recession now, 203 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: we are not expecting that we are already in the recession. 204 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: In fact, the guts and the bones of this economy 205 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: remains strong. These are not the marks of an economy 206 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: in recession right now. We don't see a recession right now. 207 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: That we're not in a recession right now. This is 208 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: not in the economy that's in recession. Not only is 209 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: a recession not inevitable, but I think that a lot 210 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: of people are underestimating those strengths and the resilience of 211 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: the American economy. We have a strong labor market, which 212 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: you don't normally see in a recession. A recession is 213 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: broad based weakness in the economy. We're not seeing that now. 214 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: Does anybody feel like this is a good economy? I 215 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: would love that explanation from people that are just trying 216 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: to pay their bills and have some financial stability in 217 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: their lives. They feel like things are going well right now. 218 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: A lot of people miss that era of the mean tweets. Well, 219 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: that guy that was in charge that they said was 220 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: doing Russia's bidding, stock market was booming, Unemployment, real unemployment 221 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: was very low, labor force participation. They keep talking about 222 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: the unemployment rate. You still have millions of millions of 223 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: pete fewer people working now than before the pandemic. Oh, 224 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: but it's a Biden's created millions of jobs. Yeah, just 225 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: feel all that prosperity while you're paying four thirty a 226 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: gallon for gas and everything you're buying at the grocery 227 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: store is fifteen to twenty percent more expensive, and your 228 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: wages aren't keeping up with inflation. And yeah, all that prosperity. 229 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: They just want to evade accountability, folks, so they'll lie 230 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: to you. That's what this really comes down to. 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It's probably 257 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: the longest suicide note in the history of West Virginia. 258 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: At a time when West Virginians and Americans are paying 259 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: four and five dollars a gallon for gas, what are 260 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: the Democrats now proposed to do to spend hundreds of 261 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: billions of dollars more to sick the irs on hard 262 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: working American families. It's only going to drive up inflation 263 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: more and cost people their jobs. I would also point out, Laura, 264 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: this is a huge, huge amount of spending when you 265 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: add it on to the two hundred and fifty billion 266 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: dollars spending the Senate pass to day that the House 267 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: is voting on tomorrow. And I would urge every House 268 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: Republican after this double cross not to support that two 269 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty fifty billion dollars spending bill on semiconductors 270 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: and other things, most of which is just going to 271 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: end up benefiting China. Anyway, Welcome back to Clay and Buck. 272 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: This is Buck here in NYC. Clay on the live 273 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: golf course right now. So I'm in Solo today, and 274 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: there you had Tom Cotton explaining a little bit of 275 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: what's gone on here, just so you know, there was 276 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: some agreement among Senate Republicans they'd vote for the Chip bill, 277 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: which was a huge spending bill in favor of semiconductor 278 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: and effectively micro chip domestic production in this country. Right 279 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: that then you're gonna have more chip making here in America, 280 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: and they're gonna spend a whole bunch of money to 281 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: do it. Senate Republicans went along with that with the 282 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: understanding that any piece of build back better was done right. 283 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion had said he wasn't gonna go for wasn't 284 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: gonna work. What do you think happened right after Senate 285 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: Republicans passed the Chip bill, all of a sudden, All 286 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: of a sudden, there's another spending bill that Democrats revive 287 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: and Joe Mansion's going along with it. That's the double 288 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: cross that Senator Cotton's referring to. And you know, on 289 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: the one hand, you get annoyed because Democrats are so 290 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: utterly contemptibly dishonest. Pelosi, Schumer and these people will just 291 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: lie about anything if no integrity doesn't matter. But on 292 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: the other hand, I also want to say, do Republicans 293 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: have to get schooled like this over and over again? 294 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: Are we really to believe that they didn't know they 295 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: were going to be double crossed? Shouldn't they have assumed 296 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: you're dealing with Democrats, your senators. You see how these 297 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: people operate all the time. You need a lesson in 298 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: this Again, I don't know. I think maybe they just 299 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: wanted to go with the Chip bill. And then they're saying, oh, 300 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: but they promised us they wouldn't do the big bad 301 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: Biden bill, and they did, or they are doing it. 302 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: I should say, what does it do? Three hundred and 303 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: sixty nine billion dollars invested in energy climate programs? Oh, 304 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: you know? Three hundred billion here, three hundred billion there. 305 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: Starts to add up after a while, doesn't it. This 306 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: is some of the green New Deal, folks. This is 307 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: some of Biden's crappy build back better idea coming through. 308 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: It's terrible for the economy, but they're doing it. 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Welcome 329 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: back to the Clay and Buck Show. This is Buck 330 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: and I'm joined by JD. Vans. He's the Republican nominee 331 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: for US Senate in Ohio. He was a proud Marine, 332 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: ye law school grad, author of Hillbilly Elegy, great book. Jad, 333 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: thanks for calling in, Thanks for having me. What do 334 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: you make of this? I mean, obviously we can get 335 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: into the recession stuff. I'm curious what you think about 336 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: Mansion deciding that he was gonna go along with what 337 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: they're calling the Inflation Reduction Act, which is very very 338 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: orwelling and intentionally misleading. Should Republicans have expected this in 339 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: the Senate or is this the kind of treachery that 340 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: is just going to happen when you're dealing with Democrats. 341 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: What do you make of the Mansion move? Boll Yeah, 342 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: I think we should have expected it, and we've probably 343 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: got played a little bit. I mean, I think that 344 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: we've gotten so he's so dependent on Joe Mansion that 345 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: I think probably guys just assumed that he was always 346 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: going to be there for them, and I really don't 347 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: know what he's doing. I mean, with all my disagreements 348 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion, the thing that he seemed to be pretty 349 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: smart on was American energy policy. Obviously, he comes from 350 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: West Virginia as a state that just wouldn't exist if 351 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: you if you don't have us, you know, exploring our coal, 352 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: natural gas, and oil resources. And the crazy thing about 353 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: this bill is, I mean, like you said, it's straight 354 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: out of orwell seven hundred and fifty billion dollars something 355 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: like that, which will increase increase inflation substantially, and they're 356 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: calling it the Inflation Reduction Act. I just I can't 357 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: get over the shamelessness of this sometimes. But but some 358 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: of the individual positions provisions are just so ridiculous if 359 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: you look at it from the perspective of Joe Mansion, right, 360 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: Like so why do we need to be giving Tesla 361 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: owners tax credits at a point when we're in a 362 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: hyper inflationary recession, Like, how does that make sense? How 363 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: does that good for the people in West Virginia. Hey, everybody, 364 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: let's go buy Chinese manufactured electric vehicles while you can't 365 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: afford to put food on the table. It's just a 366 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: pre fosterous thing. But you know, it is what it is, 367 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: and this is why we didn't take back with I 368 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: mean three hundred and sixty nine billion dollars they're saying 369 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: in new spending to address the climate crisis. You know, 370 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: there are some things the Chips Bill, for example, which 371 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: I mentioned right before you joined us here, the Chips Act, right, 372 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: that's supposed to make American competitiveness when it comes to 373 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: semiconductor's chip manufacturing better. Now, you could say maybe the 374 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: government shouldn't be involved in that. You know, the government's 375 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: intervening in the markets in a way that's excessive, and 376 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: also spending that in a way that's excessive. But at 377 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: least that's a thing that maybe people could agree it 378 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: would be helpful. It would be good to have more 379 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: domestic manufacturing of semiconductors. Three hundred and sixty billion dollars 380 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: for a climate crisis. I don't think there is a 381 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: climate crisis JD. So I don't understand why Mansion or 382 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: anybody for that matter, would want to go along with this. No, 383 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: I don't think there is either. And even if there 384 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: was a climate crisis, I don't know how the way 385 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: to solve it is to buy more Chinese manufactured electric vehicle. 386 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: The whole ev thing is a scant right, So set 387 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: to the side these questions about you know, how much 388 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: carbon drives the climate change situation, and that's like, I look, 389 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm with you on this. I did not wake up 390 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: in the morning thinking myself at climate crisis we need 391 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: to destroy the economy to deal with But even if 392 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: you take these people's arguments at face value, pluck. The 393 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: thing I don't understand is how is manufacturing more cars 394 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: in the dirtiest economy in the world and not relying 395 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: on American hunt of bakers, how is that going to 396 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: make our economy more clean? Because of course, if you 397 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: have a Tesla and I think they're kind of cool, 398 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: I don't know whe they're pretty fast, but you know, 399 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: not my thing. If you plug it into your wall, Like, 400 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: it's like, do these people think they're like keeping involved back? 401 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: They're making energy in the wall. It comes of course 402 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: from fossil fuels. So your manufacturing cars of the dirties 403 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: economy in the world, you're still relying on fossil fuels 404 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: to produce your energy. How does this make any sense? 405 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: It's like they've created this slow environmental crisis just to 406 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 1: justify democratic downers. That's what it's all about. It at 407 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: least that's the only way I could possibly wrap my 408 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: head around it. Speaking of JD Vance running for Senate 409 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: in a critical race in Ohio, he's running against Tim 410 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: Ryan um And and I want to know what you 411 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: what's your reaction is today to our recession that I mean, 412 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: I've been using the the R word on this show, 413 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, four or five months now. I mean, 414 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: so it's it's kind of amazing to some of us 415 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: that all of a sudden you're having CNN and the 416 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: regime media say, oh wow, look at this. I guess 417 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: we are in kind of a maybe sort of a 418 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: recession situation. It wasn't this inevitable based on the policies 419 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: that were being pushed j D. I mean what am 420 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: I missing? Oh, I think we're I think we're missing JD. 421 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: Is actually what happened there. Let's see if we can 422 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: get him back there. Yeah, start, go ahead, go ahead, Jdy. 423 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: Note still don't have him, JD. We're gonna try to 424 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: get you back, buddy. We've got to get you to 425 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: call in on a on a good line. But I 426 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: do think that's the that's the reality here of what 427 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: we're seeing is that this was everything about Biden. Everything, 428 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: everything about the Biden situation and what's happened over the 429 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: course of this presidency is that we saw it coming. 430 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: We warned the Libs about this. We said, hey, if 431 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: you do a B will follow. If you push for X, 432 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: Y will come next. Right, everything, Joe Biden is too old. 433 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is a mediocrity with no real vision or 434 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: leadership skills whatsoever. Everyone has known this until five minutes ago, 435 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: even Democrats in their own primary. Until South Carolina had 436 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: Cleburne decide that Biden what was worthy. All of a sudden, 437 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: everyone was, oh, yeah, well, Joe Biden, he'll get it done. 438 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: He'll unite the country and resurrect the economy. No one 439 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: really believe that, right, I guess Democrats did, but they 440 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,479 Speaker 1: shouldn't have. Didn't make any sense, didn't make any sense then, 441 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense now. And we said, don't spend 442 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: all this money. Don't do these things. One point nine 443 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: trillion right out of the gates. After you've spent trillions 444 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: and trillions of dollars. Let the economy get going, let's 445 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: supply side increase, Let there be more goods and services. 446 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: Let Americans have their business be business. No, Instead, it's 447 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: the government has to do it. The government has to 448 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 1: send people checks and spend more money and slash that 449 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: cash around. We were saying, don't do this. They said 450 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: inflation was transitor. We were saying, don't do it, don't 451 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: do this, And they said the recession wasn't going to hit. 452 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: We're saying, don't have a catch and release policy at 453 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: the border for effectively everybody who crosses into this country illegally. 454 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: We said, don't defund police, it's crazy. Don't undermine law enforcement, 455 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: don't elect progressive prosecutors. On any of these debates, On 456 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: any of these issues, can a rational person even make 457 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: the case that Democrats made a good decision. I don't 458 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: think so. On every major issue, right now. Whether it's 459 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 1: COVID or crime, or the border or the economy, you 460 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: name it. You can line this up. And there were 461 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: choices to be made, and they made the wrong choice 462 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: and the country is suffering as a result. And that's 463 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: why seventy five percent of Democrats, seventy five percent of 464 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: Democrats want a candidate other than Joe Biden to be 465 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: their nominee. What bigger no confidence vote could you have 466 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 1: an a poll than that. Seventy five percent of them 467 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: say they don't en want it to be Joe Biden. 468 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 1: Why because we're seeing the results. So we have to 469 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: hammer this home. We have to make sure that everybody. 470 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there are independence listening. There are Democrats who 471 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: listened to this show. Gotta understand, folks, there are some 472 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: things that we can have a debate about. Oh, what 473 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 1: should we do about the healthcare system? How can we 474 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 1: There are things that are that are really complicated. There 475 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: are issues that do require a nuanced touch. Democrats have 476 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: gone nuts and the party has made decisions. Their party 477 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: has made decisions that have resulted in less freedom, less 478 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: wealth less optimism for the country. And they're only in 479 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: a panic right now because they don't want to be 480 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: held accountable for that. A lot of the time. You 481 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: can listen to John Kerry when it comes to climate change. 482 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: You can listen to Democrats when they speak about the 483 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: recession or the price of gas. They think that some 484 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: of the pain we're going through is necessary. It's kind 485 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: of a purge of our sins or something like that. 486 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: They think that some of the suffering in the economy 487 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: is actually character building for you know, the American people 488 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: who aren't working for the federal government or who aren't 489 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: super rich making some really good trades, like Nancy Pelosi 490 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: and her husband making a lot of money in that market. 491 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: It's interesting how they do that. So I just think 492 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: that there's there's no surprise here from the Biden regime 493 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: except that it has exceeded our expectations of awfulness. We 494 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: said it was going to be bad. It's worse than 495 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: we thought, and so there's something he's said about that. 496 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: At least they are number one when it comes to 497 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: things like setting new records about the price of gas, 498 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 1: setting new records when it comes to the speed with 499 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: which they have turned things around in the wrong direction, 500 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: Well we're gonna fix it, folks. That's the good news. 501 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: We got plans to fix it. We got a lot more. 502 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: We do have Carrie Lake, who is running for governor 503 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: of Arizona, joining us later on the program. We'll talk 504 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: to her a lot about the border, among other things. 505 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: The Biden recession, Joe mansion obviously bailing out on the 506 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: promises that he had made to Republicans, or at least 507 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: the agreement that we're told existed that they would not 508 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: pass this. It's gonna make a situation worse. We've got 509 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: that end. China. China is saber rattling right now. What 510 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: is Nancy Pelosi going to do in response to this 511 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: with her trip to Time Wall. We'll get some of 512 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: that coming up here at a moment. 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But I have confidence that the Speaker will 541 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: do the right thing in this moment. But in your judgment, Senator, 542 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: better for the Speaker to hold off, at least for 543 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: now on that visit to Taiwan. You know, I think 544 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: she needs to weigh the input that she gets from 545 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: the administration, from the President, from our intelligence community. I 546 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: do think it risks escalating tensions with China, but I 547 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: also respect the ways that the Speaker over and over 548 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: has highlighted human rights abuses within China and has stood 549 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: up for the rights of people in the Indo Pacific 550 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: region broadly. Whatever they used to tell us, welcome back 551 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: to Clay and Buck. This is Buck. They used to 552 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: tell us when I was in the CIA that they 553 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: only wanted one handed analysts because they never wanted to 554 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: hear the On the one hand, on the other hand, 555 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: this was always these are analyst jokes. You think dad 556 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: jokes are bad. Analyst jokes are really bad because you 557 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: can always walk in say, well, on the one hand, 558 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: this could lead a nuclear war. On the other hand, 559 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's a good move. That was a 560 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: little bit of what you got there from Senator Coons 561 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: of Connecticut, and you know Pelosi on her possible trip 562 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: here to Taiwan. It's interesting, isn't it, the timing of 563 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: it all. On the one hand, you have this bill 564 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: making its way through Congress, the Chip Bill, which would 565 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: spend a whole bunch of money to improve domestic semiconductor production. 566 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: Basically it's a big giveaway to that industry. Now they argue, 567 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: of course, that that industry specifically is a tremendous national 568 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: security implications, so that's why we should do it. But 569 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi is now in a position where she either 570 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: backs down to China's demands or she goes and risks 571 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: some kind of provocation from Chinese Communist Party. Now, I 572 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: will remind everybody that it was the consensus opinion in 573 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: the foreign policy establishment. It felt like, at least from 574 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: all the news reports, that Russia wasn't really going to 575 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: invade Ukraine. Right, that's crazy. He's not gonna do that. 576 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: He wouldn't risk the international sanctions and all the Actually 577 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: he did, and he would, and I think Vladimir Putin 578 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: would probably do it again, even if he had to 579 00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: restart the whole process because of his you of what 580 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: that war means for Russian security and even a Russian irridentism, 581 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: a desire for lost territory from the Soviet imperial era. 582 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: Whatever right you got to get a Putin's mind. Not 583 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: an easy thing to do. But what is China thinking 584 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: about this situation in Taiwan. Here's what all comes down to. 585 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: It's not can they take Taiwan, it's when they try, 586 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: will America do anything about it? And if Nancy Pelosi, 587 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: the Speaker of the House, as much as it is 588 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of a sad thing to say out loud, 589 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: third in line for the presidency, the most powerful figure 590 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: in the United States Congress, right now, if China says 591 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: you can't go to Taiwan or else, we're gonna throw 592 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: a fit. We're gonna do something. And she doesn't go, 593 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: even if she wasn't really that excited about going to 594 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: the first place, although I'm sure she'd get all kinds 595 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: of really good information about the semiconductor industry, you know, 596 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: investment moving kind of information, but not that she'd ever 597 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: or her husband would never act on that, no, never. 598 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 1: But if she doesn't go now, it looks like she's 599 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: bending the knee to Beijing. And that's not a good 600 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: thing either, given the trajectory in that part of the world. 601 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: Remember we were all talking about Hong Kong. You'll notice 602 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: there are these people who are all about, oh, we 603 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 1: stand with the people of filling the blank, we stand 604 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: with the people in Hong Kong. They said, did they 605 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: really stand with them? Who ended up winning that contest? 606 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: The authoritarians, the totalitarians of the Chinese Communist Party, or 607 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: the people who were making a lot of noise on 608 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: social media about how we stand with Hong Kong. What 609 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: about Ukraine. By the way, you've probably seen there are 610 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: fewer Ukraine flags and people's bios these days, which is strange. 611 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: I told you in the first week of February, I 612 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: think it was first week of February that my expectation 613 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: was that the Russian military would grind on, that there 614 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: would not be some rapid defeat of Putin's Russia, no 615 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: matter how much we sent munitions and whatever we tried 616 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: to provide in material to Ukraine, and that they would 617 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: slowly but surely try to take over half of the country. Well, 618 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: here we are in July. The people that were all 619 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: about Ukraine flags, and we stand with Ukraine. Where are they? 620 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: Because I'm sitting you're saying, yeah, that's Russia is taking 621 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: territory day in and day out, as I expected them to. 622 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: I also think it's a little bit harder right now 623 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: for some of the Ukraine flag waivers here and look, 624 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: I'm I'm rooting for Ukraine in so far as they 625 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: deserve to have their country back from Russia. But this 626 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: became an item of virtue sigling for so many Democrats. 627 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: It was all you know. They went from the Ukraine 628 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: flag to the to then lots of Pride flags to 629 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: wear in their masks and all their photos to or 630 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: whatever the thing is of the moment. Yes, people that 631 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: are that are hearing it all. But when Zelenski does 632 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: his whole posing for Vogue with his wife or Vogue 633 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: magazine in the middle of a war, people do ask 634 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 1: some questions. They start to say, what is the message here? 635 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: I mean, there are soldiers on the front line losing 636 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: their lives in that country every day Zelenski is posing 637 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: his wife. Seemed very strange, but remember if it makes 638 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: people in rich, people in the Democrat Party in Malibu 639 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: and on the Upper West Side of New York feel 640 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: like their guys Zelenski is doing a good job over there. 641 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: It's all that matters through the Vogue editors. So let's 642 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: talk about some situations unfolding under the Biden regime in 643 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: January sixth. That's all coming up. Sleet, Travis, and Buck 644 00:36:50,719 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: Sexton on the front Lines. Three