1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: If you're about to make a change in your life 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: and you feel uncomfortable, that's the best feeling you can 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: have because for the first time in your life, you'll 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: make an a decision that's going to be best for 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: you and not what somebody told you to do, and 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: that's when all bets are off. Welcome to Money Making 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host, Rushan McDonald. Our theme is 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: there's no perfect time to start following your dreams. I 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: recognize that we all have different definitions of success. For 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: you and maybe decide to your HM, it's time to 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: stop reading other people's success stories to start living your 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: own keep winning. I always tell people I am the 13 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: host that I am Rushaan McDonald Money Making Conversation master Class. 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: The interviews and information that this show provides are for everyone. 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: start living your own. My guest is a world class 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: fitness expert and nutrition expert on this website. The reads 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: Motivation is what you get started, What gets you started, 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: Habit is what keeps you going. Please work with the 20 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation Masterclass. Obi Obaidik. How you doing, Obi? 21 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 2: What's going on with Sean, thank you for having me 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: on your show again. 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: My brother, Motivation is what gets you started. Habit is 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: what keeps you going. Talk about that. 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely. You know, the hardest part is getting into the gym. 26 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: It's just it's just getting in there and then and 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: then I think that once you get in there and 28 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: you exercise, you start feeling good, and then I think 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: it's a lot easier to stay there. But the hardest 30 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: part is just getting your just making the effort and 31 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: driving there and just doing it. And then once you 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: start to do it, you start to start feeling the 33 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: benefits from it. Immediately, you get more you have more energy. 34 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: You know, there's so many positive benefits to it. But 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: the hardest part just get get getting there, you know. 36 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: And I think that's a problem in our society. We 37 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: use the excuse we don't have enough time. You have 38 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: twenty four hours in a day. Twenty four hours in 39 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: a day. You're telling me you don't have thirty minutes 40 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: or forty minutes to dedicate to taking care of your 41 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: health like exercise. You got enough time to brush your 42 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: teeth and take your shower, which is considered a hygiene. 43 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 2: You haven't got You got enough power. You got enough 44 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: time to uh to to do a nice little thirty 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: minute walk or get your get your get your steps in, 46 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: you know. 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: Right, And it could be that simple. But somehow what 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: what what I mean to ask you this question? What 49 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: do you think stops people? Is it? Is it? I 50 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: want to use the word laziness, but is what? What's 51 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: what do you think slows them down? 52 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: I think what slows them down is is I think 53 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: people have a problem of prioritizing it in their life, 54 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: like basically creating a time lit a time window that says, 55 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: this is what I have to do at this time. 56 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: You know, like you can't fit it in. You got 57 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 2: to create that time and then build your schedule around it. 58 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: And that's the problem. They don't prioritize it. And when 59 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: if somebody tells you, Rashan, if you don't exercise every day, 60 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: you know, three four days a week, and you don't 61 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: do that regularly and consistently, you will you know, you 62 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: will shorten your life and you'll die before you're sixty. 63 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: Most people will do it. Okay, imagine if you posed 64 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: it that way to someone, right, But people don't see 65 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: the immediacy of how important exercise forget the vanity aspect. 66 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: This is gonna save your life, your life. What happens 67 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: is that when people decide to want to do this 68 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: is because the doctor forces them to, because the blood 69 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: work says, oh my god, you're a mess by this time. 70 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: It's freaking too late, you know what I mean. So 71 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: this isn't forget the vanity aspect. This is going to 72 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: save your life. This is going to a lot. This 73 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: is going to reduce the risk of all of those 74 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: chronic health diseases that can come upon ourselves as we 75 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: get older, especially people of color like you and me. 76 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: I know I'm black and I know you black, So 77 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: we've got the same type of chronic, high risk chronic 78 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 2: health disease issues that come about for people of color. 79 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: We hear this speech all the time. You know, we 80 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: laugh at it, we joke around. We know we eating 81 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: greasy food, we know we putting salt on grids. You know, 82 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: we know it. But but somehow the jokey jokes got 83 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: to stop. And so that's why this is the second 84 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: time I brought Obi on the show. He's going to 85 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: be on my show every quarter because what I don't 86 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: want to do is when you're talking about money made conversation. 87 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: Master class gets what you got to have your health right, 88 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: You got to have a plan of action. And so 89 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: I want to bring him on here periodically just to 90 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: remind you this is this is food. This is the 91 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: health part of remind you, Hey, I don't feel like 92 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: you start feeling like it, do it? Set a short 93 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 1: playing short of set goal. Let's talk about short goals, 94 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: because that's what, like you said, some people can you know, 95 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: because the you know, people want a six pack stomach, 96 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: they won't oh, you know, they want muscles out of 97 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: the gym, want to look like the rocks, you know, 98 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: all that good stuff that really you know, I think 99 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: that the image of what you trying to get to 100 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: can really show you down, slow down to what you 101 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: can be. And the bottom line, what you're talking about, Obie, 102 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: is health. You're not talking about getting into some show. 103 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: You talk about just healthy living and longevity. 104 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: Correct, well, death definitely. Like I use probably a great analogy, 105 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: like you know in basketball, I'm a basketball fan. You're 106 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: a basketball fan, right, and a lot of times when 107 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: when a when you see a team that maybe say 108 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 2: they're down, you know, three to one in a series 109 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: and then what does the coach does. The coach does 110 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: what the coach tries to create for the team that says, 111 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: you know what, let's just take it game by game. 112 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 2: You know why, because the psychological aspect of how far 113 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: they are behind it will mess with you. You take 114 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: it game by game, small small increments. Forget you know, 115 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: we're down three one. Let's just take it one game 116 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: at a time, one game at a time. One get 117 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: the same thing with weight loss, same thing with your health, small, 118 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 2: small incremental goals. When you look at the big mountain 119 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: and see how far you have to climb, it can 120 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: be overwhelming and you're like, oh my god, that's too much. 121 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: But when you smocus on those, focus on those small increments, 122 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: those small, small, little milestones, all of a sudden you 123 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: start chipping away, chipping away, chipping away, chipping away. It's 124 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: no different than writing a book. If you ink a 125 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: major book publishing deal and they say this is how 126 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: much you're the fifty thousand word manuscript, you're like, oh 127 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: my god, that's too much. But the way that you 128 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: can psyche yourself out is just to focus focus on 129 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: a chapter, focus on small increments, you know, focus on that, 130 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: and then eventually what happened. Oh my god, I'm a 131 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: fourth en. I'm two fourth tenth, I'm three fourth tent. 132 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm almost done. So when you look 133 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: at the whole thing once you got to write, you're like, 134 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: oh my god, this is overwhelming. It's no different than 135 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: exercising and trying to get in good shape. Small, small 136 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: milestone goals are good. You know. 137 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: Oh, I definitely know what I did this time over. 138 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: I went on my social and I let everybody know 139 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: I was interviewing them, and so I asked them to 140 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: send me some questions to ask you. So these questions 141 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: come from a fan base, and the very first question 142 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: is what is the quickest way to lose weight? 143 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: You know what? That's the question that everyone wants to ask. Oh, 144 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: zap it, No, I'm kidding, I'm everybody. But you know what, 145 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: when people say what's the quickest way to lose weight, 146 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: it's so funny because that's the society we live in 147 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: right now. Everybody wants it so fast and so quick. 148 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: But what I would just say is that the quickt 149 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: way really to lose weight is to focus on eating, 150 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: eating in a way that's going to allow you to 151 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: be in a caloric deficit. So what does that mean? 152 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: It means basically, it means burning more calories than what 153 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: you're consuming. So you have to look at the exercise 154 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: and the diet aspect as a as a mathematical formula. 155 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: So it's gonna say, all right, I need to you know, 156 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: the best easiest way for me to lose weight. I 157 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: need to consume a low caloric diet that has me 158 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: balanced between my carbs, my proteins, in my fat. And 159 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 2: I also want to exercise that's going to allow me 160 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: to be in a deficit. I want to exercise that's 161 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: going to allow me to burn you know, five hundred 162 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: calories you know a day. So for example, if you 163 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 2: for for for someone to lose a pound a week, 164 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: you have to be in a five hundred calorie a 165 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: day deficit. Okay, to lose two pounds per week, you 166 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: need to be in a thousand calorie a day definitely. 167 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's stop right there. Let's writ to obi. Okay. See, 168 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: see that's when you start losing me the calorie talk, 169 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: because I don't know what I'm eating, so I just 170 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: want to eat. I don't, I don't, I don't have 171 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: time to be counting calories. So help me out with 172 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: like you know, like you know, I get up in 173 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: the morning and then I hear this statement that don't 174 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: eat after six, don't eat after six, that's how you 175 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: gain weight. So either help me with some of these 176 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: myths if you just break it down a little bit, 177 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: because those calories run me, that calorie talk run me 178 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: off every time. Obie. I'm just gonna tell you that now. 179 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: So what I would try to say is that if 180 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: you're not gonna, if you're not if if calorie counting 181 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: is kind of overwhelming for you, yes, I always say that. 182 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 2: I would always say that your meal, that your meal 183 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: should not exceed Your meal should not exceed the size 184 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: of your two hands. Okay, your meal should not exceed 185 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: the size of your two hands. And when you're eating 186 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: your meal, you got your fruit, your vegetable and your protein. Okay, 187 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: so you've got your fruit, your vegetables, and your protein. 188 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: All right, So that is that that's the whole color 189 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: the whole color diagram. You got your complex, you got 190 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 2: your protein, you got your complex carb, and you've got 191 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 2: your fibers carb, which is your fruits and vegetables. You 192 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: got your brown rice, for example, you got your six 193 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: ound chicken breast, and you got your apple and your broccoli. 194 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: I could just do the math right now, and I 195 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: could tell you that whole entire meal would not exceed 196 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: four hundred and five hundred calories. 197 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: Wow, that seems like a lot of phone. 198 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: That would be about five hundred calories right there. So 199 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: if you're getting three meals a day, and you're getting 200 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred calories a day, if you eat enough fruits, 201 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: if you're eating if you're eating a cup of fruits 202 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 2: and vegetables with meal, I can guarantee you that fifteen 203 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 2: six hundred calories, fifteen sixteen hundred calories, what's gonna feel 204 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: like three thousand cow It's gonna fill you up because 205 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: of the fiber. All right, right, well, let's let we're 206 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: gonna use it. We're gonna use that formula. Now we're 207 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: gonna say we want you to walk every day and burn. 208 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: Get your smart watch and try to burn at least 209 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: five hundred calories a day, five hundred calories a day, 210 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: four to five days a week. Okay, And if you're 211 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: doing that along with what I'm sharing with you, consuming 212 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred and sixteen hundred calories per day with your 213 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 2: fruits and vegetables with each meal, and your complex carb 214 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: and your healthy protein with each meal. That is a 215 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: balanced diet, and that is about That is a diet 216 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: that has you consuming enough fiber with each meal. You're 217 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: gonna feel so full, okay, because fiber is if fiber 218 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: will fill you up, all right, it will fill you up. 219 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: It's like an appetite suppressive. 220 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: Right. 221 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: That's why fruits and vegetables are are such a great 222 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 2: It's a great way law schools because it's high in 223 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,239 Speaker 2: nutrients in its low calories. 224 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: Right right, Well, I'm gonna tell you something. We're talking 225 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: to a world excuse me, world class fitness experts and 226 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: nutrition expert, Obi Obidke. We're gonna go to commercial break 227 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: because I do not want to cut him off because 228 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: we're on a roll here because he been mentioning cobs, cobs, cobs, 229 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: and I've got a couple of questions about that. When 230 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: we get back, we're gonna learn more about how you 231 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: just common sense. This is a common sense interview. I 232 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: asked him to stop talking about calories. He stopped, and 233 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: every since I stopped talking about calories. I've been in 234 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: awe as to what he's been talking about because I 235 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: never looked at it from that perspective. Is do not 236 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: allow your meal to exceed the size of both your 237 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: hands together. I've never heard it described like that. Again, 238 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: that's a mayor's veren that we all can relate to. 239 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: We're right back with the obi obid How to Lose 240 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: Weight Tour No Money Making Conversations master Class. 241 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: Please don't go anywhere, We'll be right back with more 242 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making 243 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: Conversations Masterclass hosted by Rashaan McDonald. Money Making Conversations Masterclass 244 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 3: continues online at Moneymakingconversations dot com and follow Money Making 245 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: Conversations Masterclass on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 246 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: Uh oh, before we get into further how can people 247 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: get in touch with you? 248 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: Oh? They can go to obobdk dot com and that's 249 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: where I handle anyone that's looking to want to lose 250 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: weight getting really good shape go to obi obidig dot com, 251 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 2: obobdk dot com, or you can follow me on my 252 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 2: Instagram at obi obdk or Twitter or Facebook, and then 253 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 2: outside my supplement company, Ethicallink dot com if you're looking 254 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: for any supplements to help assist you with your fitness 255 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: and health and weight loss goals. So I'm not difficult 256 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: to get a hold of. 257 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. Well let's talk about those supplements because 258 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: you had, because that's that's a major conversation that's going 259 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: on nowadays and authorization that weight loss. When you say supplements, 260 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: what do you mean when you say supplements out of 261 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: your company brand? 262 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: So the company that I created called Ethical Inc. At 263 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: the natural science based health and Wellness brand. And the 264 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: reason why I created this company with my friend and 265 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: minority owner and business partner, More Chestnut, is because I 266 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: have I've always had people emailing me asking me what 267 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: supplement should I buy? And unfortunately, the supplement industry is 268 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: not regulated by the FDA, so anybody can create a 269 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: supplement in the garage. And so because of the unregulation 270 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: of the dietary supplement markets, there's a lot of garbage 271 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: out there. There's a lot of supplement companies that are 272 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: putting in you know, bad ingredients fillers and it's just 273 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: not clean. It's not ingredients that are healthy for you. 274 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: And you don't know when you buy a product if 275 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: what's in the supplement facts in the back of the 276 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: bottle is actually what's actually in it. So it takes 277 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: someone that is an honest business person, someone who cares 278 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: about the consumer to make sure that what is advertised 279 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: ingredient WHI ingredients wise in the back of the product 280 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: is actually actually in that product. So, because I've spent 281 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: my you know, half of my life invested in health 282 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: and wellness as a as a you know, as an entrepreneur, 283 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: as an expert, I felt like I could could really 284 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: be a voice and be an authoritative figure in that 285 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: space and create my own company and create products that 286 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: I know truly will help people, but also be honest 287 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: and say, if you're eating in a balanced way, you 288 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: don't need any supplements. Now, how many supplement company owners 289 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: are going to tell you that they're going to just 290 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: continue to, Hey, buy my Product'm like, No, if you're 291 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: eating in a balanced way and you're getting and you're 292 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: eating getting all your nutrients from food, then you don't 293 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: really need it. You don't need to take any supplements. 294 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: And I try to be honest with people like that, 295 00:15:58,920 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: you know. 296 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, well, you know the thing about it is 297 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: that we're always trying to get the easy way out. 298 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: Like you said, you have to be careful on what 299 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: that easy way out is because a lot of things 300 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: that people are taking that there aren't regularly get regulated, 301 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: and you know, there might just be a version of 302 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: X lack. This might be causing you to lose weight 303 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: because you can't keep food in. And so those are 304 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: out there on the market as die weight loss activities. 305 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: And so thank you for having that honest conversation and 306 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: sharing it with my audience. Now, I'm a guy who 307 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: likes desserts. I'm just gonna let you know that over 308 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: You know that about me. Now you know in your 309 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: plan you mentioned, you know, the fruits, the fiber and 310 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: the baked chicken and all that stuff. Can people eat 311 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: desserts on your diet plan? 312 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: They actually can? And I would say a dessert. I 313 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: would say, you can eat a dessert maybe like and 314 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: consider it a cheap mal like one the two days 315 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: a week. But you're still following a healthy, balanced plan 316 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: with a lot of different options to swap in and out. 317 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: You're good. You could still savor your you know, your 318 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: your sweet tooth with that dessert maybe once a week 319 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: or even up to twice a week, you know, and 320 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: and that's that's pretty good. 321 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: You can okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, now you got 322 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: me excited. Now do you stop talking about calories? Now 323 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: you're talking about desserts now, Okay. There are seven days 324 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: in a week, Obie, you say one to two days, 325 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: I can eat dessert two days? 326 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: Okay, one to two days you can actually eatser. 327 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: Okay, that that Obie, which they went to brothers. They 328 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: went to brothers because you know might I'm jumping up 329 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: and down in the studio here listening to your diet plane. 330 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: What do you call a dessert though, Obie? Okay, because 331 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: because Krispy Krean, it's a dessert to me? Can I 332 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: eat it? Krispy Krean? 333 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: Just wipe down? 334 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: This is this is what I would say. I'd say, 335 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: I always look at it from a perspective of a 336 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: dessert should not exceed the palm of your hands. 337 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Oh man, you've got Michael Jordan hands down. 338 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 2: I don't have to say half a half of your hand, Rashaan. 339 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but you. 340 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying is the portion size shouldn't exceed 341 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: exceed your palm. It's like, because portion matters, and that's 342 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 2: going to really dictate you know, how many calories your 343 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 2: your your body is consuming, you know what I mean? 344 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: And so I always say that like if if you're 345 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 2: not in the calorie counting, which a lot of people aren't, 346 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: then look at it and then try to use some 347 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: type of uh visual you know fi visual description as 348 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: far as what that portion is. And so I think 349 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 2: always using your hands is a good people can identify 350 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: with that. So palm of your hand should be enough. 351 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: Well, Ok, first of all, you've allowed me one day 352 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: to two days a week to eat a donut, So 353 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: right now your boy happy? I'm happy. I'm just happy 354 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: because you know, because you know, when you built your 355 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: life on eating desserts, just being cut off it could 356 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: be an ugly moment for me. Now. I had a 357 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: question come in via email said basically, you know, you 358 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: know all these about surgical procedures, how people lose weight 359 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: just doing it naturally. How many pounds can a person 360 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: lose in three months? 361 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: I think in three months realistically you can lose anywhere 362 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 2: from twenty five to thirty pounds in three months, and 363 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 2: that is considered a healthy weight. You know, the CDC 364 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: recommends that a healthy weight loss is one to two 365 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 2: pounds per week. Okay, so twenty five twenty four to 366 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: thirty pounds is realistic. I've had people do double that, 367 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 2: but they were overachievers. So I always like to be 368 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: really concerned it is, you know, and also. 369 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: You want to be a person, you know, Like I said, 370 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: they're overachievers. But I think that what I'm asking is, 371 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: and you answering, and thank you for answering, is that 372 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: when you do a diet, you just don't want to 373 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: just stop it and all of a sudden the weight 374 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: comes back, and you know, whatever program you on. Because 375 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: what I've learned is that, and I've done the diet 376 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: that he's talked about, you know, and and like I said, 377 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: and he taught me portion eating. That's what I learned. 378 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: That was the great takeaway that I still exist because 379 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: people always ask me, obi, man, you eat a lot, man, 380 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: But what a way come? What wait that we wait? 381 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: That? 382 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: Well? Because because you see me with a lot of food, 383 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: doesn't if you finished. If you see me when the 384 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: meal is over, it's still food on the plate. So 385 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: I've learned portion eating is important. Can you discuss that 386 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: with our audience. 387 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, portion eating is definitely important because it allows it 388 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: if it will give you an idea of how much 389 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 2: is required and needed to give your body the required 390 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: energy it needs. And a lot of times if you 391 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: don't know, if you're not understanding calories and that's just 392 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: like too much for you, then having the portion will 393 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 2: give you an idea Okay, this is this is what 394 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 2: will supply me enough energy and enough calories without actually 395 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: having to count it. That's why portion really matters. That's 396 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: why I said, okay, two hands would be a meal, 397 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 2: and for a cheat meal would be the palm of 398 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 2: your hand, one palm of your hand. Right, So those 399 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: are things that that that that people can say, Okay, 400 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 2: I get that, I don't really understand the calorie count. 401 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: I don't want to do all that, but I get 402 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: the hands, I get the hands of the portion size. 403 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 2: And what's interesting is that the one of the reasons 404 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: why that you're you'll you'll be you know, people look 405 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 2: at your your meal. My god, that's so much food, 406 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: right right, and you think where where you know, where 407 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: where are you gained? You're not gained in the way. 408 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: What's happening? Well, probably the food that you're eating is 409 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: highly nutrient dense. And when you're consuming highly nutrient dense food, 410 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 2: the food is high in nutrients, but a lot of 411 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 2: times it's low in calories. So you look at the 412 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: food and it might look like it's a lot of calories, 413 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: but it really isn't because the nutrients is so high 414 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 2: but the calories is so low. That's why I say 415 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: fruits and vegetables are the best weight loss foods because 416 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: it looks like it's a lot of calories, but it 417 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 2: really isn't. You can't overdose some broccoli, Okay, you can't 418 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 2: over You can't all of a sudden just over consume 419 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: broccoli and all of a sudden you're going to gain weight. 420 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: I've never seen anybody get obest eating broccoli and spinach. 421 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: The calories is so low it's impossible. Wow. 422 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: Over this has been fantastic man. Thank you for like 423 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: I said, every quarter, he's going to be on my show, 424 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: just talking, educating me, reminding me of longevity and Lungevity 425 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: is called taking care of your body through a healthy meal, planning, 426 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: healthy thought process. Light world counts. You know when you 427 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: know I'm not trying to be the Rock. I'm not 428 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: trying to play for the NFL, and I'm not trying 429 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: that for a basketball team. I enjoy watching stuff on TV, 430 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: but along the way, you can't eat right and Obi, 431 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: you broke it down to me today and I hopefully 432 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: my audience heard what you told me that I'm excited about. 433 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: You got me out of the calorie conversation and that 434 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: has been a big block for me because I'm not 435 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: a counter, but I am a person understands portions, understand 436 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: that what you were talking about. And as we exit, 437 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: tell everybody how to get in touch with you one 438 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: more time. 439 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: Obi. Sure you can go to ob ob dk dot 440 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 2: obobadk dot com if you're interested in, you know, any 441 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: free health and wellness tips you want to get in 442 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 2: better shape, or if you're looking for any you know 443 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: supplements to help assist you with your health and wellness goes. 444 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: Maybe you've got a trainer nutrition it, you can go 445 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: to ethicalwink dot com. But I'm always passing out free 446 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 2: health and wellness information articles and tips on my social 447 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 2: media platforms. If you have no desire for that, I'm 448 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: always going to educate you for free, because that's my passion. 449 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: That's what I love to do and that's why I'm 450 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: on this Why why you know, Mamana Rishawn's platform is 451 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 2: radio show, which I'm grateful for. Thank you, sir. 452 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: Okay, we talked to my friend, and thank you for 453 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: taking the time to talk to my audience. 454 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: Man. Thank you very much. Man. 455 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: This has been another episode of Money Making Conversations Masterclass 456 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: hosted by me Rashaan McDonald. Thank you to our guests 457 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: mister Easley and mister Obadike for showing up today. And 458 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: I just want to thank you for listening and join 459 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: us next week and remember to always leave with your 460 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 1: gifts and keep winning. 461 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us for this edition of Money 462 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 4: Making Conversations Masterclass. Money Making Conversations Masterclass with rough Shan 463 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 4: McDonald is produced by thirty eight fifteen Media Inc. More 464 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 4: information about thirty eight fifteen Media Inc. 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