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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 3: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 2: I did it because I was foolish. Listen to how

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Speaker 2: Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I fucking love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear that, Birthna.

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Speaker 4: Brekers.

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Speaker 3: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artist.

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Speaker 4: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: All right, here we go eleven am on the Screws

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Speaker 5: Eastern Standard time. It is Monday, December twenty, twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 5: Episode three twenty nine of the Anak and Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 5: As we come down the stretch of a most memorable year.

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Speaker 5: A lot to talk about. After the UFC's final live

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Speaker 5: event of the year. There were also some other offerings

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Speaker 5: on the Combat sports plate that we will get to

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Speaker 5: later in headlines Morning Cam Flow.

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Speaker 4: What's going on there in Charlotte, North Carolina? Kid? What's happening?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 6: I think I woke up the latest of woke it

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Speaker 6: up in like fifteen years. I woke up at like

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Speaker 6: eight forty five or something like that. No, no, yeah,

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Speaker 6: almost nine o'clock, and my wife decided to make this

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Speaker 6: eggnog last night. Except it's like eggnog with bourbon and

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Speaker 6: rum and I don't typically drink and it like it

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Speaker 6: just destroyed me.

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Speaker 4: It was very strong, and I'm a wimp. And yeah,

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Speaker 4: so I guess I slept well, but I kind of

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Speaker 4: feel weird. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, see good, I don't sleep well when I drink alcohol.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I just need to drink more it. Uh so five?

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Speaker 5: So was this because like you don't have to take

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Speaker 5: a kid to school? Like what allowed you the luxurie?

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Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, no school? Yeah, you know, Chris, And all right,

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Speaker 5: so I'm not going to lead the show with Jake Paul.

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Speaker 5: You know, we have certainly given him a lot of credit,

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Speaker 5: you know, for his work, ethic and other things, and

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Speaker 5: certainly he put the caps on on a big year

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Speaker 5: and there's a whole tyed Woodley side of this. My word, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean my word, he would, But we got a

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Speaker 5: lead with Derek Lewis over Chris Dawcas in the main

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Speaker 5: event UFC Fight Night. The knockout came at three thirty

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Speaker 5: six of round one. Ken Filly, you had the Black

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Speaker 5: Beast to win, if I'm not mistaken, correct, No, I

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Speaker 5: actually have had Aucus, all right, I did have Doccas.

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Speaker 5: So I pushed out a tweet after the fact that said,

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Speaker 5: you know, I can't believe Derek Lewis was the betting underdog, right,

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Speaker 5: And certainly I am a seasoned enough gambler to know

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Speaker 5: that when they set a betting line, they are trying

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Speaker 5: to get two way action, and they got two way

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Speaker 5: action on this fight. Chris Dacas I believe opened as

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Speaker 5: a slight and closed an even bigger favorite.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: But as somebody who's contractually prevented from not only betting

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Speaker 5: and even if I have a lean, you know, I

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Speaker 5: can't really talk about it. So this can certainly sound

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Speaker 5: like retrospective and hindsight and all of that stuff, right,

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Speaker 5: But it amazed me that Derek Lewis could be had

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Speaker 5: at plus money against a guy who made his UFC

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Speaker 5: debut in August of twenty twenty. I love Chris Ducas

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Speaker 5: we had him on the air. He's a supreme athlete.

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Speaker 5: I think he's a tweener a little bit between weight classes.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he's a light heavyweight. But certainly, if

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Speaker 5: I was contractually allowed to bet on this stuff, I

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Speaker 5: would have bet on Derek Lewis as an underdog because

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Speaker 5: he came in the most decorated knockout artist in UFC

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Speaker 4: Was fighting a striker, you know.

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Speaker 5: So obviously there's a lot to unpack, or I guess

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Speaker 6: My friend, no question, Listen, Derek Lewis obviously has the

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Speaker 6: I certainly knew that was possible, and for doccas, I

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Speaker 6: I thought it was possible for him to get in

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Speaker 4: But standing in front of Derek Lewis. I don't care

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Speaker 6: If you allow Derek Lewis to get in front of you,

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Speaker 6: So Derek Lewis thought a perfect fight. He was patient.

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Speaker 6: Doccas was trying to try to land from the outside,

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Speaker 6: his feints were effective at a certain point.

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Speaker 4: It's one thing to move a real fate.

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Speaker 6: A proper feint is when you get someone to bite

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Speaker 6: And Derek Lewis after a while was like he wasn't

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go and charge this guy. And that's exactly

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Speaker 6: He closed that distance, got right in front of Doccas

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Speaker 6: only if we talk about this every time of how

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm not sure that Chris Daccas is the

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Speaker 5: trying to be overly critical, I'm really not. But there

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Speaker 5: guess I'm just sort of surprised that that was the reality.

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Speaker 4: Now he's only.

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Speaker 5: now Derek Lewis ken flow, I mean, what else can

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Speaker 5: most accomplished knockout artist in any division in UFC history.

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Speaker 6: No, it's extremely impressive what he's accomplished in the UFC.

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Speaker 6: And you know, when he gets it right and when

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Speaker 6: there's just not a whole lot of guys that will

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Speaker 6: he's going to continue to improve. Can he bridge that

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Speaker 6: But Derek Lewis, you know, when when he has a

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Speaker 6: good night, man does he look good? And he looked

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Speaker 6: because of it. You know exactly what you're going to

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Speaker 5: Sometimes when I'm betting the NFL, I try to be

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Speaker 5: And for Doccas, I guess it's going to be interesting.

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Speaker 5: Doccas's future now in this heavyweight division. They're gonna be

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Speaker 4: No question.

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Speaker 6: Listen, this is his first main event. Not easy for

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Speaker 6: So I think this is an experience that is going

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Speaker 6: I would like to see sharper feints uh. I do

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Speaker 5: on a Saturday night. What did you make of Blaw's

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Speaker 4: Go out and do it?

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Speaker 6: And Ballall went out there and did it, which was

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Speaker 4: Man. You know how you do it?

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Speaker 5: You request to fight Wonder Boy at the Apex, That's

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Speaker 4: But Gilbert Burns had to fight this guy.

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Speaker 4: It definitely does, you know. I think it is a factor.

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Speaker 6: you know, I think Ballall took full advantage of it.

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Speaker 5: Thompson here in defeat? You know, he's not all that

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Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, I think that he could needs to continue

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Speaker 5: I mean Gilbert Burns was similarly criticized. I thought Gilbert

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Speaker 4: Talking about Gilbert Burns and not Pawaw.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 6: You know, He's like, nah, it was just like it

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Speaker 6: Over time it has certainly changed, but that's what we think.

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Speaker 6: Why the hell is he going to go and strike

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Speaker 6: You take away that space, you clinch them, you take

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Speaker 4: That's what Blaw was able to do and.

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Speaker 6: Hey, I got to take wonder boy down, no shit,

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Speaker 6: But how do you do it? And how do you

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Speaker 5: I don't care who you are, right, and how do

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Speaker 6: were alluding to before, John, is you know, another thing

437
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Speaker 6: is we've got fooled in some ways into thinking that

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Speaker 6: entertainment is the number one thing we're supposed to go

439
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Speaker 6: out there, and do you know, if you ask Michael Jordan,

440
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Speaker 6: you know he happened to be very entertaining and winning,

441
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Speaker 6: But you ask him what his number one concern is.

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Speaker 4: He wants to fucking win. That's it.

443
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Speaker 6: I'm not here to entertain the Chicago fans. I'm out

444
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Speaker 6: there to win basketball games. You asked the Patriots, Bill Belichick,

445
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Speaker 6: what's your number one thing? Why aren't you more entertaining?

446
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Speaker 4: Bill?

447
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Speaker 6: I don't give a shit about being entertaining. I'm out

448
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 6: there to win football games, period. Then maybe I'll be

449
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Speaker 6: able to make some money. Look at habib Nermaga Metov.

450
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Speaker 6: Was he known as the most entertaining fighter in UFC history?

451
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Speaker 4: We were were.

452
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Speaker 6: We all excited to no. He was a winner and

453
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Speaker 6: no one could stop him. And guess what in that process,

454
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Speaker 6: he could not be denied. He got the big fights,

455
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Speaker 6: and he made a shit ton of money by winning

456
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Speaker 6: and staying undefeated.

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Speaker 5: And certainly there's an entertainment component in all of that.

458
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Speaker 5: I mean, there's nothing like khabib Nermaco Metov walked to

459
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Speaker 5: the octagon by the end of his career, and dominance

460
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Speaker 5: is very entertaining too.

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Speaker 4: But yeah. I mean, look at Tyron Woodley.

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Speaker 5: He's nearly an hour with Steven wonder Boy Thompson in

463
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Speaker 5: the octagon on the way he had to fight that guy.

464
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Speaker 5: And the thing too is like, this isn't Bala Muhammad

465
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Speaker 5: at like forty years old, final fight of his career.

466
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Speaker 5: Let's just trade on a fucking napkin with Steven wonderbore's

467
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Speaker 5: center of the octagon. He's chasing a world title and

468
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Speaker 5: certainly ideally the riches that may come with that.

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Speaker 4: But when you are on.

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Speaker 5: A championship trajectory, to all of your points, you got

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Speaker 5: to win. And we'll see he's done a lot of that,

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Speaker 5: you know. It's pretty remarkable. Last twelve walks to the

473
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Speaker 5: octagon for Balah Muhammad. He's lost one fight to Jeff

474
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Speaker 5: Neil right, no contest against Leon Edwards and then ten wins, right,

475
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Speaker 5: twelve walks or nine wins, whatever it is.

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Speaker 4: But the last twelve walks for Balal he's lost one time.

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Speaker 5: Pretty impressive, all right, Ray Longo coming up here in

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Speaker 5: a few minutes, quickly, want to talk to you about

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Speaker 5: Amanda Lemosh and Angela Hill. It was the fight of

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Speaker 5: the night, another tremendous showcase for the strawweight division. People

481
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Speaker 5: are probably sick of me uttering out that line, but

482
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Speaker 5: just a tremendous, tremendous fight, and you know, Angela Hill

483
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Speaker 5: raises her ceiling for me in defeat. I really feel

484
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Speaker 5: like she is becoming a layered martial artist. She is

485
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Speaker 5: super tough. I have all the respect in the world

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Speaker 5: for what she has done. I think her work on

487
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 5: television as an analyst has helped her as a fighter.

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Speaker 5: You and I both thought that Amanda Lemos won this fight,

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Speaker 5: and I know that we are in the minority. It

490
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Speaker 5: was a close fight.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: I feel badly for Angela Hill. She's lost a lot

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Speaker 5: of split decisions. But I'm really happy for my friend

494
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Speaker 5: Angela in defeat. I'm very encouraged about Amanda Lemos as

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Speaker 5: far as her future in the division, and just what a.

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Speaker 4: Great fight for the ladies. Over the weekend, I was

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Speaker 4: excited about this fight.

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Speaker 6: You know, I think that Angela has, you know, turned

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Speaker 6: herself into a dangerous grappler in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 6: You know, she's become very effective when it comes to

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Speaker 6: getting to that clinch position. She stays busy, She has

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Speaker 6: a very unorthodox style and it's hard to get a

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Speaker 6: beat on what she's doing and when she's doing it,

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Speaker 6: and I think that really threw Amanda Lei most off.

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Speaker 6: Amanda Lemos though, when you look at her ability, man,

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Speaker 6: not only is she one of the best athletes in

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Speaker 6: the women's division, but her striking, her her tenacity, her toughness,

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Speaker 6: her well roundedness.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: Again, Angela fought her ass off, may have fought a

511
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Speaker 6: great fight in my opinion, but Amanda was just better

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Speaker 6: if you look at the difference. For me, Angela was

513
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Speaker 6: moving forward, she was she was having some success. But

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Speaker 6: for me, the difference in the strikes. Angela had slapping strikes.

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Speaker 6: Amanda Lemos had heavy strikes, and it was just cleaner.

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Speaker 6: She was landing cleaner those moments when Angela was so

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Speaker 6: close to a takedown, Amanda would reverse it or y,

518
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Speaker 6: you know, push her off and then land a nice combination.

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Speaker 4: She was just a little bit more vicious.

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Speaker 6: And for me, the athleticism and the speed and the

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Speaker 6: varied weapons was the difference. For Lemos, Angela fought a

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Speaker 6: great fight, but Lemos was just a little bit better

523
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Speaker 6: when it mattered. And some people were surprised about the

524
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Speaker 6: thirty twenty seven. Well, I had round two for Angela

525
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Speaker 6: Hill as well, but I think that was super close

526
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Speaker 6: and that really could have gone either way as well.

527
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Speaker 6: It wasn't like it was an overwhelming win by any

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Speaker 6: woman in that round, so I don't think that's you know,

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Speaker 6: completely on call for. But it was a great fight and.

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Speaker 5: I think it really delivered, and I think analytically you

531
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Speaker 5: couldn't have set it up better. I almost have nothing

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Speaker 5: to add, right, I guess I would add to a

533
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Speaker 5: Mando Lamos and I agree with all the superlatives. Right,

534
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Speaker 5: She's special, man, you know, like there are just certain

535
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 5: athletes that when you watch them, you just I don't know, man,

536
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Speaker 5: I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 4: You just believe.

538
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Speaker 5: And she had to lean on her cardio in this fight.

539
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Speaker 5: You know, she was certainly tested in the hot department, right, Yes,

540
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Speaker 5: very impressed with a Mondo Leamo switching stances, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good. She's clean, man, really really impressive.

542
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 5: Would you make a Ricky Simone, you know, halfeyla sunsound

543
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 5: not the easy guy to knockout, and certainly it's a

544
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Speaker 5: case of two guys going in different directions. But it's

545
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 5: amazing to see Simone, you know, a little pork chop

546
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Speaker 5: when he's not in training, and then just an absolutely

547
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Speaker 5: shredded animal omos And that's for sure.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's he looks massive for the division. You know.

549
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Speaker 6: I would never say I was a Ricky Simone doubter,

550
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Speaker 6: but I'm not sure I was sold on him as

551
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Speaker 6: like a guy who could be a top five or champion.

552
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Speaker 6: I think that performance against the Sun Soow.

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Speaker 4: Really sold me where.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think Ricky Simone went out there

555
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Speaker 6: and didn't just win the fight.

556
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Speaker 4: He dominated, just dominated.

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Speaker 6: His wrestling was on point, his his connections were super tight,

558
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Speaker 6: stayed on him, was landing heavy shots. He just put

559
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Speaker 6: it all together against a guy in a sunshow who

560
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Speaker 6: you know, was one of the elite bantamweights for a

561
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Speaker 6: very very long time.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 6: I mean he's got a lot of dangerous weapons. He

564
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Speaker 6: hits really hard and none of that faced. Ricky Simone

565
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Speaker 6: delivered at the right time, and I was impressed. Man,

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Speaker 6: I'm sold. I mean the kid is very very tough.

567
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 5: Is he not ranked? I don't even think he's ranked

568
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 5: right now. It's just shows you the current state of

569
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 5: the UFC's bandam weight division. But yeah, I have thought

570
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 5: that he had a championship ceiling, and it's nice that

571
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Speaker 5: we got Ken Flow on board.

572
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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 5: Matauj's Gamrod out of Poland is like twenty and one.

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Speaker 5: He defeated Carlos Diego Fajeda. TKO. Yeah, submitted to the

575
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Speaker 5: referee after that knee to the body. I don't know

576
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Speaker 5: if it's if it's really Jason Herzog on Twitter, but

577
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Speaker 5: he seemed to be self critical of the stoppage here.

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Speaker 5: I didn't take any issue with it. It seemed as

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Speaker 5: though Diego Fajeda sort of verbally acknowledged that his rib

580
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Speaker 5: or something in the body was hurt to the referee.

581
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Speaker 5: But Gamrock's the story. What do you make of the

582
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Speaker 5: stoppage and everything else there?

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Speaker 6: Oh, boy, listen, I think that Gamrock just impressed the

584
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Speaker 6: hell out of me, really had no fear of the

585
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 6: grappling skills of Fajita, just went out there and beat

586
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Speaker 6: him at his own game. Really, his wrestling is on point,

587
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Speaker 6: very fast. He's a tremendous athlete. He landed the shots

588
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 6: when he needed to, so he got the respect he

589
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 6: needed with his hands, and that's what allowed him to

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00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 6: get to those clinch positions. He was the better striker,

591
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 6: he was the better grappler wrestler anyway, maybe not the

592
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 6: better submission guy, but certainly the better overall grappler. And

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Speaker 6: I was very, very impressed by Gamrod. He's someone to watch.

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Speaker 6: I don't think a whole lot of people are gonna

595
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Speaker 6: want to fight him. Oh and you know he's a problem.

596
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 6: He's a problem for sure. And in regards to the stoppage,

597
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 6: you know, he hit him in those floating ribs. It

598
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 6: reminded me very similar to when GSP stopped Matt Sarah.

599
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 6: You know, those shots are brutal. When you're in that

600
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 6: turtle position and you land those knees to the floating ribs,

601
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 6: those really can do a number on you. It could

602
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Speaker 6: have been a broken rib, certainly an injured rib that

603
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Speaker 6: took his breath away. And for Hada, you know, basically

604
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 6: was done before the submission was was put in there.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, it was hard to see. I mean I

606
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Speaker 6: certainly didn't see it in real time. It was really difficult.

607
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 6: It happened very quick, So I don't necessarily blame Jason

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Speaker 6: Herzog for that.

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Speaker 4: Herzog one of the best in the game, but.

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Speaker 6: You know, it would have been worse maybe if it

611
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 6: was like a series of like you know, uh, concussive

612
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 6: blows to the head of the haita. Luckily it was

613
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Speaker 6: a submission instead of like punches. But awesome performance from Gambrock.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: Wow, what a fighter.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I do consider Jason Herzaga friend, but I also think

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Speaker 5: he is one of, if not the singular best referee

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Speaker 5: in mixed martial arts right now. I did vote for

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Speaker 5: him for Fighters Only Referee of the Year in twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty one. All right, plenty more coming up on UFC

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Speaker 5: Fight Night. Lewis versus Doccas says, Ray Longo Minute is

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Speaker 5: brought to you by Nord VPN.

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Speaker 3: He is now.

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Speaker 2: Times for the Ray Longo Minutes, and I'm gonna punch a.

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Speaker 3: Hole in fucking sucks.

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Speaker 1: That's what I want with the Ray Longo Minute.

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Speaker 3: The John Annik and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 4: Ray Longo, Ray Longo, Ray Longo long Ago. Hey Ray,

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Speaker 4: Hey Ray.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna be really nice today because, uh, some of

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Speaker 5: the YouTube commenters maybe don't understand our friendship and they

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Speaker 5: think that I have been.

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Speaker 4: A little bit.

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Speaker 3: Man. I'm sorry. Man. If Cody could get the microphone up,

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Speaker 3: I could barely hear you, guys.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I did all that dancing for nothing, Ken, though

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Speaker 4: I know long Ago right long ago? Man, I think

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Speaker 4: long Ago had some of some of Clark Florian's Uh you.

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Speaker 3: Know what, Kenny, I can't hear this guy.

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Speaker 4: Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Can you

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Speaker 4: hear me? Oh?

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Speaker 3: No, he can't getting on again?

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Speaker 5: All right, we're keeping all this in the show, but

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Speaker 5: let's get him out of here and uh, we'll see

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Speaker 5: if very long ago can uh can rejoin us. It

647
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Speaker 5: was a big weekend for for team Sarah long Ago.

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Speaker 5: Make sure we put Sarah in front of the Longo there.

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Speaker 5: I did notice a fighter mentioned law M M A,

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Speaker 5: which is long ago widening m may you know, maybe

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Speaker 5: we're allowed to say that, but you know, I was

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Speaker 5: alerted to the fact by our steam producer Cody Merrow

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Speaker 5: that some people felt like maybe I was a little.

654
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: Bit hard on Ray.

655
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Speaker 5: And now Cody's telling me that Sarah Longo gear is available? Now, Hey,

656
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657
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Speaker 5: fifteen for the holidays. If we're selling Sarah gear like

658
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Speaker 5: on our website, I don't even know what I'm doing

659
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 5: with myself. So I'm hoping that that's just like a

660
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 5: misprint or something. We're talking about Matauje Gamrot. Cub Swanson

661
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 5: over Darren Elkins with that incredible knockout. I don't know

662
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 5: if he got a bonus. I don't have the bonus

663
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 5: winners in front of me. Hopefully Kubbe Swanson got a bonus,

664
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 5: the father of three. But you know, what an unbelievable

665
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 5: moment for Cubb to have with his kids. And you know,

666
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 5: I was thinking a lot about that after what Amanda

667
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 5: Noonz and Nina new Nez were saying a week before

668
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 5: about wanting their kids to get older and experience all

669
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 5: of these fight weeks, when I know my man Canflow

670
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 5: would have his daughter so far removed from this fight

671
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 5: week as he's cutting down to one hundred and fifty

672
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 5: five pounds or whatever it was. But what did you

673
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 5: make of Cub, you know, bringing his kids and being

674
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 5: able to have that moment with them.

675
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 6: You know, I think everyone's different, and I think you know,

676
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 6: that was a real special moment for Cub.

677
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 4: Cubs of very emotional guys.

678
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 6: You could see, and you know obviously that the fight

679
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 6: game has meant so much to him and for him

680
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 6: to be able to do that with them sitting front

681
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 6: and center, MA a special feeling for him. It was

682
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 6: an awesome performance against a guy, and Darren Elkins, who

683
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 6: is one of the more dangerous guys, one of the

684
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 6: harder guys to put away as we know.

685
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 4: But I think the difference was, here's the thing, Darren Elkins, you.

686
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 6: Know you're gonna land on him. You know you're gonna

687
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 6: land some shots. Can you put him away? Though, that's

688
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 6: a different question. Cubb has enough firepower where he was

689
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 6: able to do that and executed beautifully. Cub looked very

690
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 6: relaxed once he settled into his positions and his striking.

691
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 6: He was getting his feet moving. Man was he and

692
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 6: landing well and consistently and able to get it done.

693
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 6: Elkins took a lot of damage yet again in that fight,

694
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 6: and Cub looked awesome.

695
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: Man.

696
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 4: I'm super happy.

697
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 5: For him and the patience to not force the finish

698
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 5: big stuff for Killer Cup Swanson over the weekend. All right,

699
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,160
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700
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Speaker 4: There he is.

734
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 5: So it looks like you have some sort of headphone contraption.

735
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 4: You need a new cellular.

736
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 3: Telephone, h exactly? Can you hear me?

737
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

738
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 4: You sound great?

739
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: Oh wow, this is yeah that the other thing didn't

740
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: work at.

741
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 5: All Kenny was talking about. Now it looks like Kenflow's

742
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 5: on mute. What a fucking disaster, this is, Kenny?

743
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 3: Are you there? Brother? There we go?

744
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: What's there? We only see we were only seeing half

745
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 4: a race face over here.

746
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: There we go, We're there, we go anyway, So your

747
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: boy Ryan Hole last night, oh yeah, he was in

748
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 3: he was in Texas. I don't know who he had.

749
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 4: But uh, oh Carlos, Carlos Vera, he won, He won?

750
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: Right?

751
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 4: Was that was it a fight?

752
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, it was a fight. Yeah, what a what

753
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: a what a sweetheart? You know, I think I didn't

754
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 3: meet him once before, but he really is just a

755
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 3: just a really sweet nice guy and obviously very dangerous.

756
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: But uh, we talked about you a little bit, but

757
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: just throwing that in there. Great night last night. Wait,

758
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 3: John fell asleep on this Kenny. I think he's out.

759
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 4: It might be no, he's out, No come back, John?

760
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 4: How was making some notes on pooming Kuda?

761
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: Oh, we got lots to talk about.

762
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 4: We have a ton to talk about.

763
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 5: So I don't know when we were getting connected earlier

764
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 5: if you heard what I was saying. But it seems

765
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 5: like the listenership feels like I've been a little too

766
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 5: hard on you lately. Maybe they the genesis of our friendship.

767
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 5: So because I got a million places I could go

768
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 5: right now?

769
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 4: Where are you right now?

770
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 3: Listen? I'm just impressed that we I have a genesis

771
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: with you. I don't even know what that means.

772
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: Is maybe the better word. I mean, where are you?

773
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 3: What? I'm in Houston?

774
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 4: What are you doing?

775
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: There. Oh yeah, No, we had a fight with a

776
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 3: big nas Saudi kowflience, like beautiful fight. Uh knocked the

777
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 3: guy out in the third round. Got to catch up

778
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: with a lot of people, which was great. Uh So

779
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: Kendall Grove Eric Shelton really was just a great time

780
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 3: to Kendall Grove has got to be one of the

781
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: nicest guys ever in them. Yeah, he's just what a

782
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: what a just great energy to see him and it's

783
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: always that I don't see him for seven years, It's

784
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 3: like it was yesterday. He's just just a great guy.

785
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: It makes the sport so much nicer for me. Man,

786
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: it really is just a we had a blest.

787
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 4: That's great.

788
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 5: I mean, you hate when people call you a legend,

789
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 5: but you're a walking, living legend. So when do you

790
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 5: fly at home right after leaving Houston, right after the

791
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 5: podcast and you're going back to New York?

792
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 3: Right, this is why the fans are on you. You're bullying me. Actually,

793
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 3: who would have thought John Adick was a bully? Kenny?

794
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: Who would have thought that.

795
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 5: A lot of people in television feel misunderstood? Right, It's

796
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 5: like my family likes to joke with me. It's like

797
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 5: it's amazing. People think you're a nice guy. You're a

798
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 5: fucking asshole.

799
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 4: Brother always tells me.

800
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 5: So three and ohero for you on the weekend. Though,

801
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 5: Poomi Nakuda, let's start there, right. So he had a

802
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 5: little cameo on our show last week and I said

803
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 5: he's the best flyweight in the world outside the UFC.

804
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 5: Then your guy Steve Lee takes issue with that. God

805
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 5: loves Steve Lee, but he believes that Poomy right now,

806
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 5: with respect to Brandon mo Reno and everybody else, is

807
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 5: the best flyweight in the world, in the UFC or

808
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 5: outside the UFC. So I know he's hyping up his guy,

809
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 5: But this kid can fight, man, he can cut a promo.

810
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: Looks like the total package to me.

811
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 5: Talk to me about Pumi Nakuda and how you think

812
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 5: he stacks up right now with the truly elite world

813
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 5: class flyweights.

814
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 3: Well tell you cutting the promo, he's up there with

815
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: the best of them, that's that for sure. Listen, he's

816
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: five and zero, he's defended the bell twice, won it,

817
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: so he's got you know since the you know, only

818
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: only five fights. But I don't think he's lost around

819
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: between his amateur career and his pro career and you know,

820
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: they are flying guys in there. Very This kid was tough.

821
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 3: The kid before this was tough, and the guy he

822
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 3: won the title was was tough. Uh. You know, he

823
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: had beaten the guy that was just on to Contender series.

824
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: So he's he's ready for the next jump. He really

825
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: is that good, you know when you're working like he

826
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: could stay toe to toe with Morob, which is a

827
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: big and he's a twenty five pounder. Uh, and he's

828
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 3: got Al Joe to work with. He's so he's surrounded

829
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: by great people at that weight that he could work with.

830
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 3: So we got to see. But he's ready to go.

831
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, he's just he not only

832
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: is he he's just dominating every round that he fights,

833
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: and he's right.

834
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 5: I mean what so what are they going to do

835
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 5: with him right now? I mean, do you think it'll

836
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 5: be one more?

837
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 4: Do you think?

838
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 5: I mean the Contender series probably doesn't make sense. Probably

839
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 5: ready for the UFC either.

840
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: Roy just wants to get in there. You know, he'll

841
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: if he has to prove it in the Contended series. Yeah,

842
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: he'll prove it in the Contender series. If they throw

843
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: him right in there. Uh, that's that's fine too. He

844
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 3: is he is that good. So it's not like he

845
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 3: you know, he's just talking. He is training with guys

846
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: that are in the top five, and you know, we

847
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: all see how the training goes, you know. So he's

848
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: he's right where he wants to be and you know,

849
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: if his head stays level, which he's really really an intelligent,

850
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: bright young kid. I think this guy's the limit for him.

851
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: I really do. He's just an athlete and he gets it,

852
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 3: you know. So, Uh, I don't know. I don't know

853
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 3: what else to say about him. He's just he's unbelievable.

854
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 4: I'm curious for an athlete like that, undefeated and sorry,

855
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 4: Ken Flow, I'm just curious, like if the mentality is

856
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 4: am I try to stay ready for a short notice

857
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 4: opportunity because I want to get into the UFC that way,

858
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 4: or do I want to go the Contender Series path?

859
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: You know?

860
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 5: But I think a kid like that who has not

861
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 5: just the skills, but a personality and all the confidence

862
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 5: of the world.

863
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, Man, you have to you have to

864
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 3: love him John, even when he jumps on for the

865
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 3: you know, even last week he's just right. His personality

866
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: is infectious. Man, he's just a great kid. He was

867
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 3: a great kid to second he walked through the door,

868
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 3: and I'm just glad to see he's doing good. He

869
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 3: did suffer an injury though, so he will be out

870
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 3: a little bit, so hopefully that doesn't interfere too much

871
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: of what's going on.

872
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: But what happened.

873
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: He broke his hand, all right, so that sucks. But uh,

874
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: you know the thing with the UFC, it looks like

875
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 3: the Contender series or looking for a fight is the

876
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 3: best way in at this point. I don't know how

877
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: many people they're really taking any other ways? Is that correct?

878
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: Any or? Johnnah, you wouldn't know better than me.

879
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 5: I think no, perhaps, so, you know, I guess I'm

880
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 5: just curious from an athlete's perspective.

881
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 3: Right. Oh, he's ready to go right in if that's

882
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 3: what you're asking. He's one hundred percent ready to go

883
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 3: right in.

884
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, because this climate has produced a lot of short

885
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 5: notice opportunities, and oftentimes that can be a high profile

886
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 5: way to sort of bang the door down. All right,

887
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 5: in the nature of time, we're going to talk to

888
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 5: blab Muhammad coming up here in twelve minutes I guess

889
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 5: I wanted your thoughts on on that fight. And Steven

890
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 5: WonderBoy Thompson, who who kind of took to social media today,

891
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 5: took to social media today to sort of apologize to

892
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 5: his fan base.

893
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: Did you watch that comin event? If so, what were

894
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 4: your thoughts on?

895
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 3: Okay, so, you know, obviously it was flying, and uh,

896
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 3: you know, I missed everything, but last night I went

897
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: back and kind of watched it late. But you know,

898
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: it looks like the wrestling, you know, just as that

899
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: Achilles heel that he's going to have to get by

900
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 3: because now everybody knows which which which path to go right,

901
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 3: because it's it's funny when the fight's standing, I mean,

902
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: even if it's for twenty seconds, right he is he

903
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: is lighting the guy up. But it's twenty seconds as

904
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: compared to another four and a half minutes of just

905
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: control time. And uh, you know, Blal did a great job.

906
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: I think he just looked at the Burns fight and

907
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: he kind of did the same thing.

908
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 5: You know, what do you make of the fan base

909
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 5: being critical of a guy when he wins like thirty

910
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 5: to twenty five against one of the best kickboxers in

911
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 5: UFC history.

912
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 4: Like what what are people? Is it just ignorance?

913
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 5: Like what do they want Blow with his skill set

914
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 5: to do in that matchup? Like try to stand and

915
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 5: trade with the guy? Like I don't know, am I

916
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 5: too critical?

917
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: No? No? But but where a dress saying we're addressing

918
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: something we shouldn't even be addressing? What the what the

919
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: fans think? I mean, we love the fans, but I

920
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: mean you can't please everybody all the time, you know that, right?

921
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: So that that that's more And I think Henry Hoff

922
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: said it to do uh. I think he said after

923
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: the fight, even the Gilbert like, why would we take

924
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 3: another path when this is the path? You know, this

925
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: is obviously the path to go if you have the

926
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 3: ability with the takedowns to get that fight to the floor.

927
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: Why would you you know, it's m m a, why

928
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: why would you do anything different? But look, we all

929
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 3: know that everybody loves a PS six brawl. I mean,

930
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: that's that's a definite. You know, Dana loves that. The

931
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 3: fans definitely love that too. Guys just standing in like

932
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: Chandler and Gaegee and duking it out. But you know

933
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 3: that's not always the smartest thing to do, right, So

934
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 3: you want to please the fans or you want to

935
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 3: get a w you have as a fighter. You have

936
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: to decide on what you want to do and what

937
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: you think you can make the best of your skill

938
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 3: set and then just go with it and blow did

939
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 3: a great job.

940
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 4: Won.

941
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: The boy will probably be the first guy to tell

942
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 3: you that. And that's it.

943
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 4: You know, I need a pure six Brawlers T shirt.

944
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: Right.

945
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 5: See, I'm trying not to be a dick today. I

946
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 5: was going to come on here and be like, oh,

947
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,959
Speaker 5: look at blud, just take the boy helping your beat down.

948
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 5: I will a going to do any of that. Hey

949
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 5: real quick, my man. Yes, if I'm tiring Woodley like

950
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 5: giving myself a fade this week, I'm not going into

951
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 5: the barbershop.

952
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 4: I just don't want that noise.

953
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 5: Right, And you know, like Ken Flow could could you know,

954
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 5: take three hundred and fifty four hundred thousand dollars to

955
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 5: go box somebody, right, but he doesn't want to walk

956
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 5: into the barbershop for the rest of his life. And

957
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 5: people being like, dude, you got flatlined by Jake Paul

958
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 5: and Ken Flow's defense and jab is too good, it

959
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 5: wouldn't happen. But you know, I feel bad for my

960
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 5: guy t would you know. I've spent time with him

961
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 5: in Ferguson, Missouri. I know the family. Well, he's trying

962
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 5: to sort of put the sport of mixed martial arts

963
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 5: on his back in some way and ended up, you know,

964
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 5: face for on the canvas courtesy of a big right

965
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:02,479
Speaker 5: hand from Jake Paul.

966
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: I mean he went down worse than askering.

967
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, no more.

968
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: Look, I'm sure he made money and guys, but you

969
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 3: have to realize is that and I think we all

970
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: wanted Woodley right, We all said, no, he's going to

971
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: make the adjustment. He'll be more aggressive. You know, he

972
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: kind of hasn't done it in the last five. But

973
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 3: we just get sucked right in there. But at the

974
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: end of the day, you know what they say, follow

975
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 3: the money trail. You got to follow the money trail.

976
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: That's it. And that's that was the problem. I don't

977
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: look this this kid is he's a decent boxer. He

978
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 3: really is not, maybe not even decent, but for where

979
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: he's at for three or four fights, he definitely can

980
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: box a little bit. So I turned the fight off

981
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 3: after the second round. I goes just was boring and

982
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: what ad he gett knocked out in the fourth or

983
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 3: fifth or sixth round. Yeah, then somebody showed me the highlights,

984
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I don't know, just I hope he's

985
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 3: happy financially, because I don't think happiness is coming in

986
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 3: any other avenue than financial.

987
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: Ken Flow, what do you got for us? On Woodley?

988
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 4: Paul too or Paul Woodley too? I guess, Yeah, this

989
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 4: was tough, you know, Listen.

990
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 6: I think Paul has established himself is a big, strong kid.

991
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 6: He obviously has some pop in his punches. And for me,

992
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 6: I think it was a misread by Woodley. Right, It's

993
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 6: almost like Ray like he was pairing a teeth or

994
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 6: something like that with his hand.

995
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 4: Like I don't know what he was. I don't know

996
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 4: if he made the only thing I could think of.

997
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 6: Maybe he thought an uppercut was coming, so he was

998
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 6: gonna block it with his hand. But one thing you

999
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 6: don't really do, it's not karate where you're you know,

1000
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 6: blocking punches. Usually you just cover up and you keep

1001
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 6: them here the whole time, especially for boxing, you know

1002
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 6: those the only shots are gonna come are gonna be

1003
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 6: hand strikes to your head. Why he did this, I

1004
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 6: don't know, but listen, we all make mistakes out there.

1005
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 6: It was a tough one for Woodley more than anything else.

1006
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 6: It's like, I don't care about the loss as much.

1007
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 6: I just I hope he's okay, you know, physically that

1008
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 6: was a rough one. Yeah, to get knocked out like

1009
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 6: that and you just go out and you're out. I

1010
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 6: mean he's not out like almost and kind of like

1011
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 6: slowly goes to the canvas. He literally and it was

1012
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 6: like a tree falling where he just went face first.

1013
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 6: Those are brutal and that's not a good sign. And

1014
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 6: I just hope my man Tyrant is okay, and I

1015
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 6: hope he made some good, good coin.

1016
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 4: For that fight as well.

1017
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 6: But you know, the Paul Brothers, they're picking the right

1018
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 6: guys at the right is as good as Tyrone was,

1019
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 6: or as powerful as dangerous as he is with his

1020
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 6: hands and stuff. He's not a professional boxer, right either,

1021
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 6: picking guys at the end of your careers who you know,

1022
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 6: So I don't know, kudos to those guys, and uh,

1023
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 6: you know, we'll see what he does next. He's talking

1024
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 6: about MMA. Maybe I don't know none.

1025
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,479
Speaker 3: Not only that they're picking guys way below they wait

1026
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: pounds foot you know it's way smaller. Yeah, Like, it's

1027
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: just it's all right. They seem like good guys though.

1028
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: They really seem like decent. They're doing a great job

1029
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 3: with the marketing. I think they It seems like they're

1030
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: very generous, right. He made Woodley a great offer, I think, right,

1031
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: an extra five hundred grand if he knocks him out

1032
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 3: of something. So he's they got something going on man

1033
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: for sure, which is man.

1034
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 4: Oh boy, my gosh. I don't believe t wood is

1035
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 4: on the wrong end of this highlight for the rest

1036
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 4: of eternity.

1037
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 5: And I've been a Jake Paul supporter, right, Like, it

1038
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 5: is encouraging for me to hear you call him a

1039
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 5: decent boxer because I saw a video from smiling Sam

1040
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 5: Alby on social media and he's just like Sam's the

1041
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 5: nicest dude on the roster, and he's just like, oh, like,

1042
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 5: he's just not a good boxer. Like Sam's like begging

1043
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 5: mossfeed All to somehow some way position himself to take

1044
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 5: this fight because he just wants to see Jake Paul humble.

1045
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 5: The odds for Jake Paul's next opponent bet online Anderson

1046
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 5: Silva is the favorite right now, at three to one,

1047
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 5: Tommy Fury, Dylan Danis, nat DS, Conor McGregor, mosfedal On

1048
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 5: and on it goes Floyd Mayweather, Oscar de la Hoya,

1049
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 5: Mike Tyson, Canelo, albarez Ksi. Anderson Silva is the betting

1050
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 5: favorite right now to be the next opponent for Jake Paul.

1051
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 5: Would you wet your beak with Anderson Silva? Certainly in

1052
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 5: terms of the size, ray more comparable.

1053
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Again, so we get the size right, but the

1054
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 3: guy's fifty, you know, like it's it's always going to

1055
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 3: be something canny. I mean, all right, so now we

1056
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 3: got a guy. I mean it's like it's almost genius.

1057
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 3: I want to give your kid credit because he's he's

1058
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 3: outsmarting these guys. He entices them, and he's always got

1059
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 3: the advantage. So I don't know who's better than him.

1060
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 6: I mean, like, again, we keep trotting out as MMA guys.

1061
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 6: We keep trotting out swimmers for sprinting cotton. You know,

1062
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 6: oh yeah, well what if we send this swimmer out

1063
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 6: to race you on a on a track. Yeah, It's

1064
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 6: like it's a different thing. And again I couldn't agree more.

1065
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 6: It's like yes, yes, Anderson self is a way better striker.

1066
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 6: But again, again, what do we like, Can we just

1067
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 6: send it in a professional boxer to just lead Yeah, right,

1068
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 6: or get an mm a guy in his prime. But

1069
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 6: then that's not gonna happen. And he'll call out those

1070
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 6: guys because you they're under contract.

1071
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 4: With the UFC. Exactly, call out whoever you want.

1072
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 6: You can call out Connor McGregor, you can call out uzman.

1073
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 6: What they're not going to take the fight. They're contracted

1074
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 6: the UFC and they know that.

1075
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: No, So it's it. That's why I say. But he

1076
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 3: does a great job in selling it. He really this

1077
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 3: this is gonna put it over the top though with

1078
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 3: this knockout.

1079
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is not man, this is.

1080
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 3: Not They do something right. I mean, you know, Floyd

1081
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 3: Madewell has started his career at one hundred and thirty pounds.

1082
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 3: You know he's not a big guy, great box obviously,

1083
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 3: you know, one of the best ever, if not the best.

1084
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: F but you know you took him. How old was

1085
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: he forty four? Yep, he weighed one hundred and forty pounds.

1086
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 3: This guy was two hundred. Well, you know, like it's

1087
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 3: just doesn't.

1088
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 4: It is far fought Logan Paul, he didn't fight.

1089
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: Oh what was the weight? Does Logan Pool walk around it?

1090
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 4: Right? He's the bigger brother, He's.

1091
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 3: The bigger brother guy. The guy was fighting at one

1092
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: hundred and forty pounds.

1093
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 5: But even when you talk about Moss feed Allan McGregor, right,

1094
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 5: I mean smaller guys than Jacob Paul.

1095
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. Again, look, in boxing, you could have

1096
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 3: two great guys, one guy one hundred and thirty pounds champ,

1097
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 3: one guy one hundred and thirty five pounds champ. Back

1098
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 3: in the day when boxing was as competitive as ever

1099
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: was in the eighties, going up five pounds was hard

1100
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 3: to do. Five, not fifteen, not ten, not twenty. Five

1101
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 3: pounds was hard because everybody was good, and that five

1102
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 3: pounds made a difference, Kenny, it really did. I could

1103
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: give you an example after a So what these guys

1104
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 3: are doing is crazy. I mean it's like, uh, you know,

1105
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 3: this is like Mike Tyson calling out like a middleweight.

1106
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's nuts and I'd like to see that.

1107
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 3: I'd like to see that fight. Maybe Tyson in him.

1108
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 5: Well, it is interesting, right that you know we're talking.

1109
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 5: We didn't even ask you about Derek Lewis because we're

1110
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 5: talking about that.

1111
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, so they got us there too, But it

1112
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 3: is it is a funny conversation. And I think when

1113
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 3: you really boil this kid down, you know, they it's

1114
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 3: the new new age of thinking with YouTube and everything.

1115
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 3: It's even like when when Woodley wanted to rematch, the

1116
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 3: guy was like, no, you can't have her. You had

1117
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 3: your turn already. He was like he was in a

1118
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 3: school yard, like, no, it's you know, he's very seems

1119
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 3: like a fair kid, you know, he definitely you know,

1120
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 3: oh no, no, you had your turn. It's somebody else's

1121
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 3: turned out, Tyrone and he like, what are we talking about?

1122
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 3: This guy is? I'm like, is this kid kidding?

1123
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 4: Give me my brother's ball back?

1124
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 3: You know.

1125
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 5: Ye got awful fight, though, got awful fight until uh

1126
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 5: until it was not.

1127
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 4: Hey, Ray, wish your safe travels. Man, some palmade in

1128
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 4: your hair. You sound great today.

1129
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 3: I'm out, man, I need a break. This is I

1130
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 3: went from Atlantic City back to New York, jumped on

1131
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 3: a plane, went to Texas. I mean, I don't even

1132
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 3: know where the hell I am. I'll be honest with you.

1133
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 4: Rocking the merchandise on uf YE and.

1134
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 3: Any anybody I forgot that I didn't give a shout

1135
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: out to. I'm sorry, but I think I got everybody. Yeah,

1136
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 3: oh you know, yeah, no, it's all good.

1137
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 4: There's some cannibal guy that you forgot or something.

1138
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Charlie, Charlie the cannibal did. He did great, he

1139
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 3: stopped his guy.

1140
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna get out of here and forget Charlie.

1141
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 3: It was kind of like that. But I'm trying to

1142
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: think of who else I saw. It was just a

1143
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 3: good It was a really good week, and Texas was

1144
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: was phenomenal.

1145
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 5: All right, we'll get home so and we will talk

1146
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 5: to you next Monday. Free Form episode next Monday. So

1147
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 5: appreciate all your all your time, and the check is

1148
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 5: literally in the mail because it's Christmas time.

1149
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 3: I can't I mean, John and Kenny. If I tell you,

1150
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 3: I feel like a like a twelve year old on Christmas.

1151
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 4: Wait for that, I really do, you know, I can't

1152
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 4: be right.

1153
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 3: I'm actually just more worried about what happens after I

1154
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 3: opened the envelope.

1155
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, get out of.

1156
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 3: Here, all right, take it easy, guys, Love you guys.

1157
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 3: I'll talk to you. Hey, Happy holidays, man, if I

1158
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 3: h I don't see I don't even know what day

1159
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 3: it is today.

1160
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 4: But yeah I think that.

1161
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm glad you uh and I'm glad you

1162
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 3: married a gentile John who can you can celebrate Christmas?

1163
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 4: Yeah? Right together?

1164
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 3: First year, I mean, now you're got to know what

1165
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 3: it's all about. This year.

1166
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 4: I can't wait.

1167
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 3: Thank God for Thank God for Christy Man. Thank Look

1168
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 3: he's actually mad at you again.

1169
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not.

1170
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 3: Make you feel benef I say to you, what are

1171
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 3: we told you?

1172
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 4: I could just feel the anti Semitism coming through.

1173
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 5: Love you, love you.

1174
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 3: Take it easy, guys.

1175
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 5: And people are going to say I was rushing him

1176
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 5: out of here today. And the reason I'm rushing him

1177
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 5: out of here today is because now joining us is

1178
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 5: one of the best welterweights in the world. Below remember

1179
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 5: the name Muhammad. If you'll just give me a minute

1180
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 5: to put my head gear on, I'm so proud of you, man,

1181
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 5: I'm so proud of this performance.

1182
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: Yeah all right, so.

1183
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 5: Now joining us, he'll be in the top five when

1184
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 5: the new rankings come out. Off a big win this weekend,

1185
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 5: little formal here UFC welterweight contender Blao. Remember the name Muhammad.

1186
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna try not to cuss a lot.

1187
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 5: I know you're a fudge guy over a fuck guy.

1188
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 5: But congratulations, man, Seriously, it's been a huge year for you.

1189
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 5: I know how hard you work, and obviously everybody on

1190
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 5: this channel and everybody I think for the most part

1191
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 5: in the MMA space is really happy for you.

1192
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 3: Man.

1193
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 4: How you doing good?

1194
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 7: Man? I appreciate that you do. It's funny when you

1195
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 7: say fudge. Guys at the MMA fighting they like quoted

1196
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 7: it and they like wrote it down, And I said,

1197
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 7: when I saw the word fudge on the thing, I

1198
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 7: was like, ah, that is hilarious right now. Yeah, I'm like,

1199
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 7: I gotta make you as sure that's his fudge on there.

1200
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 5: I was like, all right, yeah, the the ESPN they

1201
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 5: bleeped out fudge if you're wondering. So all right, A

1202
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 5: lot too unpacked when it comes to this win. You know,

1203
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 5: Kenny was voicing some of his support over the weekend

1204
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 5: on social media. But relative to your expectations going into

1205
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 5: the fight with Wonder Boy, how did it play up?

1206
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 7: I mean, honestly, you know, when you're when you're getting

1207
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 7: ready to fight a guy like wonder Boy, the top

1208
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 7: five in the world, a guy who you've seen knock

1209
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 7: people out, a guy, a specialist guy. And at the

1210
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 7: beginning of camp, it was like a little bit stressful

1211
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 7: because you're you're overthinking it. You're like, man, I called

1212
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 7: up Raymond Daniels. He didn't answer. All these guys use

1213
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 7: Daniels or all telling me to use him. Uh call,

1214
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 7: says north Cut, And these guys aren't answer, Like what

1215
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 7: do I do now? And you know, just overthinking the

1216
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 7: process a little bit. And I'm just like, you know what,

1217
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 7: I got a good guy in me. I got a

1218
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 7: my training partner, ag Nacio Obama is really good. He's

1219
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 7: a he's very good at emulating a lot of guys styles.

1220
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 7: He's a younger version of him. And I was just like,

1221
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 7: what's what do I need to do?

1222
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 4: What do like? Stop overthinking that.

1223
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 7: I called Anthony Pettis asking his thoughts, and he's like, dude,

1224
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 7: don't overthink it. Don't bring in this guy, don't bring

1225
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 7: in that guy. Watch Bazuka Joe And I was like,

1226
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 7: Zuka Joe. He's like, yeah, watch him, and he like

1227
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 7: send me a couple of videos of his when he

1228
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 7: thought Raymondaniels, and it was just in his face the

1229
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 7: whole time, like it's going to pressure the whole time,

1230
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 7: forward on him the whole time, and he just like,

1231
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 7: trust me, that's gonna work.

1232
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 4: That's what That's what you need.

1233
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 7: You don't need to sit there and try to play

1234
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 7: the karate game with him or bringing a guy like Raymond,

1235
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 7: and then you're gonna you're gonna be frustrated for the

1236
00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 7: first couple of weeks becase it's gonna be hard to

1237
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 7: cat his timing and thinking, and then that's gonna make

1238
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 7: you think, oh crap, If he's this good, what about

1239
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 7: wonder Boy. Wonderoy's probably gonna be twenty times better. So

1240
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 7: just not overthinking the process, knowing that my team, my coaches,

1241
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 7: my styles, I could adjust to anybody no matter what.

1242
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 5: You seem to move on pretty quickly after the win.

1243
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 5: Are you allowing yourself to enjoy the fruits of your labor?

1244
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 5: It doesn't seem so. It seems like it's just spinning

1245
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 5: it forward right away.

1246
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 7: Honestly, No, Yeah, I'm looking forward. I'm like I said,

1247
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 7: the goals is a goal. Once I get the goal,

1248
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 7: that's all that matters. But yeah, I'm sitting here like, man, dang,

1249
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 7: I should have called out this guy.

1250
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 3: Should have?

1251
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 7: Well, this one makes sense now, or that one makes sense.

1252
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 7: It's just because there's such a long jam at the

1253
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 7: top of the division with none of these top five

1254
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 7: guys wanted to fight. And then you got taiav right

1255
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 7: there too. That's another huge name that's honestly probably bigger

1256
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 7: than any of the top fivers right now just on

1257
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 7: name value. So you're like, what's next, or like what

1258
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 7: does the UFC want? And that I know that Kamorrow

1259
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 7: is going to take some time off and he's not

1260
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 7: gonna fight for a while, so you're like, I'm not

1261
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 7: gonna be the guy that's gonna sit there and wait,

1262
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, a big fight gets made

1263
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 7: and you're like, dang, I.

1264
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 4: Should have I should have called for this guy because

1265
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 4: I got skipped.

1266
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 7: Or there's gonna be a number one contender fight and

1267
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 7: the UFC lefes guys that stay busy, and I'm injury free,

1268
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 7: so I want to stay busy.

1269
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 4: We loll. What does this say about your skills?

1270
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 6: You know, I look at this fight against wonder Boy,

1271
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 6: and you know you don't necessarily come from this high

1272
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 6: level wrestling background where like we know, you know, you're

1273
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 6: this guy who you four time All American National Champion

1274
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 6: wrest We're like that this is this is how he's

1275
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 6: gonna win this fight.

1276
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 3: We don't.

1277
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 4: And then you look back at the Maya fight where

1278
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 4: you kind of you're able.

1279
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 6: To anti grapple and use your striking, and you know,

1280
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 6: you have a lot of different skills that I think

1281
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 6: people don't really realize, and the fact they're able to

1282
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 6: win and win in different ways to me is probably

1283
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 6: the most impressive thing. But how do you think your

1284
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 6: skills compared to the other guys who are maybe ahead

1285
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 6: of you in the welthweight division.

1286
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 7: I feel like this year I showed a lot where

1287
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 7: my first fight of the year against the Alma, I

1288
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 7: threw over two hundred and like thirty strikes in a fight,

1289
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 7: and I know I had to stay in his face

1290
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 7: and pressure fight him with striking. And then against Maya,

1291
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 7: I defended twenty five takedowns, so I showed I could

1292
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 7: defend these guys' takedowns. And then against wonder Boy, I

1293
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 7: showed that I could grapple with the best of the

1294
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 7: best and be there and I don't need to have

1295
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 7: these big accolades of being a just too black belt

1296
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 7: or wrestling in college or anything like that. It's just

1297
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 7: all about hard work and the grinding. The team that

1298
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 7: I have around me, We're doing all the right things.

1299
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 7: And like ESP wasn't one.

1300
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 4: Of those guys that wrestled his whole life or anything

1301
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 4: like that.

1302
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 7: I'm not one of those guys. I wrestled one year

1303
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 7: in high school. But I just know that the work

1304
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 7: I put in the mindset that I have, I know

1305
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 7: how to be a fighter. I know what it takes

1306
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 7: to be a fighter. I don't need to sit there

1307
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 7: and overthink a bunch of things. I know how to

1308
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 7: put it all together. And I think I'm one of

1309
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 7: the best guys Indivision at putting it all together.

1310
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 4: So we're going to talk a little bit about the future.

1311
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 6: Hey, hey, bellow, you got me.

1312
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, not only have you made this Monday amazing for me,

1313
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 5: I don't even know where to begin.

1314
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 4: I was gonna be calm, and I couldn't be calm.

1315
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 4: I'm so happy. Number five, How are you? How are

1316
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 4: you feeling today? Kelly? My brother? Man?

1317
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 7: It is a rough literally that that last episode we

1318
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 7: had you for everybody's telling, like man, Jason's energy, man

1319
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 7: is a whole different enid. I'm like, dude, man, is

1320
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 7: that erg You gotta be hyped up right now.

1321
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,959
Speaker 4: I was like, dude, he's a man. Dude.

1322
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 5: If you don't know, and you're only on the audio side,

1323
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 5: that is Jason Annak, who co hosts remember the show

1324
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,919
Speaker 5: here on this channel, calling in to celebrate you cause

1325
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 5: you know, I want you to celebrate this win like

1326
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 5: that was a big part of today and certainly you

1327
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 5: know before I let you go, I'm gonna hit you

1328
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 5: hard on the Coamzachi may have stuff and thanks Jay

1329
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 5: for calling in. He'll get his turn. By the way,

1330
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 5: Oh there he is. Are you guys having the Black

1331
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 5: Beasts on the show this Thursday? Is that still balal

1332
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 5: in the works or what? Yeah, I'm just trying to

1333
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 5: get into it. I went into the DMS again. I'm

1334
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 5: hoping that he responds the time, but hey, I was like, dude,

1335
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 5: I gotta I gotta go for it.

1336
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 7: I was like, he was sitting there in the Jacuzia

1337
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 7: like this call him over here till I need to

1338
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 7: talk to him.

1339
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 4: He said, what do you want to talk to him out?

1340
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 7: I's like, don't worry, just turn your camera on. He's like, what,

1341
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 7: I don't know what we're talking about, Like, dude, just

1342
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 7: call him over. And he came over there and then

1343
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 7: I recorded him and then he saw Loug recording.

1344
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 4: He's like, damn, I forgot you. I was like, yeah,

1345
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 4: we got him, got him. Hey, do you see my

1346
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 4: face or you just got my voice? No, you got

1347
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 4: your face? All right? So hey flow, great to see you.

1348
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 5: By the way, have you ever seen anyone rag Doll

1349
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 5: Steven Thompson like that?

1350
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 8: Pick him up? Just pick him up and wrap go ahead,

1351
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 8: but look, did you did you even get hit? Honestly,

1352
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 8: it didn't look like you did. Like, yeah, honestly, no.

1353
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 7: I was literally I got to like the worst thing

1354
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 7: I have is rugburn, and I knees like that the

1355
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 7: mag You don't understand how like when your niece grapes

1356
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 7: on there.

1357
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,439
Speaker 4: It's like sandpaper, like the shower. After you're like yeah,

1358
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,439
Speaker 4: I'm like all right, Well, Jay Frow.

1359
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 5: So we thank him for checking in so super impressed

1360
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 5: with the performance, and you know, we spend a lot

1361
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,439
Speaker 5: of the beginning of the show sort of talking about

1362
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 5: the fan base, and maybe I lean into this too

1363
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 5: much when I see some of the criticism in terms

1364
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 5: of the entertainment value of your win, and ultimately winning

1365
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 5: is the most important, right. The Boss was certainly happy

1366
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 5: with the performance, you know, but I sort of come

1367
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 5: to your defense when I see people sort of wanting

1368
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 5: like a kickboxing match, it's like thirty to twenty five,

1369
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 5: It's like, how are you supposed to fight this guy?

1370
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 3: Man?

1371
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 5: It's just like, I don't know, man, I thought you

1372
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 5: fought a near perfect fight. You should be happy about it,

1373
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 5: you know.

1374
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not worri like fans in general.

1375
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 7: I mean, he has twice as many followers as me,

1376
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 7: so obviously he's gonna have more but hurt people after

1377
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 7: that win. But I'm like, I'm not gonna sit there

1378
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 7: and kickbox with him.

1379
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 4: But I was. I was prepared for it.

1380
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 7: I was like one of those where I'm like, all right,

1381
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 7: I didn't have to use it, like the whole training camp.

1382
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 7: I'm sitting there like, all right, well he's gonna throw

1383
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 7: the spinny kick. He's gonna throw that. I'm gonna be right.

1384
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 7: I have to rush him right after that. And you know,

1385
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 7: when you're funny, a guy like that, you're thinking about,

1386
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 7: you know, you're going to sleep you're thinking about wonder Boy.

1387
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 7: I watched them my whole life. I've seen him. I've

1388
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 7: seen them not guys out with spinica. I've seen them

1389
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 7: not guys out with that straight cross. I've seen them

1390
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 7: not guys out with other things. And you're you're You're like,

1391
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 7: all right, what do I do when this happens? What

1392
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 7: do I do when this happens? What do I do

1393
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 7: when this happens? What do I do when this happens?

1394
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 7: But I didn't have to get there because I got

1395
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 7: to the wrestling, and I was like, I it was easy.

1396
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 4: It was I was able to control them.

1397
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 7: I was like, all right, well, if Plan a's working,

1398
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 7: why am I going to go to Plan BC or D.

1399
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1400
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 5: Training's hard, fight night's easy. Not that easy, but easy enough.

1401
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 4: All right.

1402
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 5: So in terms of the division, okay, all right, So

1403
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 5: I got three names that no longer make sense in

1404
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 5: my opinion because now you're in the top five. Okay,

1405
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 5: So Neil Magne, Michael Kiesa, Sean Brady. I don't ever

1406
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 5: want to hear their names out of your mouth. Okay,

1407
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 5: let's start that. I love everybody. I'm just having a

1408
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 5: little fun, all right. So the guys in theory that

1409
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 5: would be ranked above you if you're number five in

1410
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 5: the world. Now, but Sente Luke four, Leon Edwards three,

1411
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 5: Gilbert Burns to Colby Covington won. Now, when I'm calling

1412
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 5: somebody out as a fighter, you know, maybe part of

1413
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 5: my inner monologue is what is Dana's relative interest or

1414
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 5: appetite for that fight. I don't know what his appetite

1415
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 5: is for a rematch between you and Leon Edwards, but

1416
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 5: it would seem to me that Leon maybe doesn't have

1417
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 5: the appetite for it for one reason or another. And

1418
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if Dana does or not, so I'm

1419
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 5: not sure that Edwards is gonna be next.

1420
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 4: Right.

1421
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 5: Then there's this guy, Kamzat Chimaiya, who's number eleven in

1422
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 5: the world. He's a fellow Muslim. I know you're not

1423
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 5: gonna call him out publicly, you know, but some people

1424
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 5: thought this would have been the perfect platform to lay

1425
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 5: the foundation for a chimayav fight that you know, would

1426
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 5: get the boss excited. We have put out an Anakin

1427
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 5: Florian podcast poll, and it seems as though most people

1428
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 5: think you're gonna get Gilbert durenho Burns. I know I

1429
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 5: gave you a lot too unpacked there? What do you

1430
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 5: think about everything I said? And ultimately, who do you

1431
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 5: think it's gonna be next?

1432
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, honestly, it was one of those things where you

1433
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 7: just be number five in the world and you're like,

1434
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 7: all right, you know what, they never talk about my

1435
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 7: name into in the title picture.

1436
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 4: They never talk about this.

1437
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 7: I'm like, you know, whether there's nobody got to tetle

1438
01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 7: fight right now, So I'm like, let me just put

1439
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 7: I ain't even any discussion whether I get it or not.

1440
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 7: Right at least they're gonna discuss it or bring it

1441
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 7: up now. So I'm like, all right, cool, But now

1442
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 7: that's just sitting back and thinking about it. Like the

1443
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 7: two that I would really want or which I think

1444
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 7: would make the most sense, uh, is either Kobe or Chamayev.

1445
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1446
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 5: And the thing that's true is that I don't mean

1447
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 5: to not say kamara Ousman right, Like I just laid

1448
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 5: out and I didn't mention the champ but bro, your

1449
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 5: fresh blood, you have one loss in your last twelve

1450
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 5: octagon walks, like, I don't think stranger things have happened.

1451
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 5: Then you getting a championship opportunity. I think maybe it's

1452
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 5: a main event one more win, but you could get

1453
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 5: a title shot.

1454
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 4: I'm not saying you couldn't.

1455
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 7: No, yeah, yeah, of course, But like you said, like

1456
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 7: there's always the world thinks that uh Leon deserves it

1457
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 7: for beyond a ten fight Wintersting. So it's like, all right, whatever,

1458
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 7: And like you said, I don't think Leon didn't respond

1459
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 7: or say anything on the on social media or anything

1460
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 7: since the fight, so I'm like, all right, you know what, whatever,

1461
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 7: he doesn't want to fight, so it's like, all right,

1462
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 7: I know Tamaia wants to fight because he commented on

1463
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 7: one of the posts or something like that, so I'm like,

1464
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 7: all right, well that would be exciting. And like you said,

1465
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,919
Speaker 7: he's the guy that the world thinks is the one

1466
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 7: that's going to be throwing usman, the boogeyman, the guy

1467
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 7: that everybody's afraid of. So that one hypes me up

1468
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,439
Speaker 7: because it's like, all right, you beat this guy. There's

1469
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 7: no excuses for the Maya all well, Miles Old. Now

1470
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 7: for the wonder Boy, well you did nothing but russell them.

1471
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 4: All right.

1472
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 7: Now that I beat this freaking hot prospect that wrestles

1473
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 7: and knocks people out, then what is it. It's it's like

1474
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 7: the Drago Rocky story where you're looking at it like

1475
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 7: everybody thinks this guy's invincible. So I go and never

1476
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 7: beat him, and I think I have the style to

1477
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 7: beat him. Then I think that that literally puts me

1478
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 7: ahead of any of these guys, especially if Usman's really

1479
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 7: going to take some time off and not fight. If

1480
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 7: I get this fight in before summertime or before one

1481
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 7: of the big cars or anything like that, and Husman

1482
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 7: does have some time off, you beat him. You see

1483
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 7: all his momentum, all of his rankings.

1484
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 6: So and wouldn't it be a better time to fight

1485
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 6: him now since he doesn't have as much experience. He

1486
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 6: hasn't had a fight in the UFC, Like he's just

1487
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 6: walked through guys. So it's like, all right, well, maybe

1488
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 6: I get my hands on him, see what he's made

1489
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 6: of exactly.

1490
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, And it's one, like you said, it's one of

1491
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 7: those where you want to be the first one to

1492
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 7: do it, even with uh when Gilbert Burns fought a

1493
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 7: wonder Boy and you're like, nobody really tried to take

1494
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 7: wonder Boy down at any of his fights. Everybody was

1495
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 7: a lot of his guys were strikers, a lot of

1496
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 7: his guys were like Darren Till or Widaker or all

1497
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 7: these guys that none of them really went in there

1498
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 7: with the mindset of trying to take him down. So

1499
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 7: Gilbert went in there with the mindset of trying to

1500
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 7: take him down, and obviously it was like he didn't.

1501
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 7: He played a little bit safer because he stayed ont

1502
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 7: top him because he's like, I don't want to get

1503
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 7: to the feet. I don't know how good he is

1504
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 7: off his back or getting up, so he's like, let

1505
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 7: me just hold him down. I realized that he didn't

1506
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 7: have anything off his back, so I'm like, all right,

1507
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 7: let me throw more ground upon into there. Let me

1508
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 7: throw a lot more ground upon than Gilbert did. So

1509
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 7: but it's like, all right, now I know this, and

1510
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 7: now if I go on there against a guy like

1511
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 7: comes out, be the first one to figure him out.

1512
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 7: There's nothing that they can't deny me. After that, especially

1513
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 7: when you got Dana White talking about nobody wants to

1514
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 7: fight this guy blah blah blah, and I literally show

1515
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 7: Texas to my manager of yo, let me get to

1516
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 7: my I'm down to fight him right after his last fight,

1517
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 7: And I'm like, these guys will sit there and call

1518
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 7: him out on Twitter.

1519
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 4: But I'm like, yo, I'm texting my.

1520
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 7: Manager who literally could talk to Dana and how a

1521
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 7: Dana the right way?

1522
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 4: Like when these guys say that this on social.

1523
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 7: Media, I'm looking at it like Neil Magne, Like this

1524
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 7: guy always keeps talking about I want to fight this guy.

1525
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 4: I want to fight this guy on social media. But

1526
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 4: this guy's obviously not getting fights.

1527
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 7: So I think it's obviously on his end where a

1528
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 7: fight's not coming through or something like that. Because when

1529
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 7: he was calling me out for a while and then uh,

1530
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 7: my manager told me like because I met mess my manager, yoh,

1531
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 7: let me get Magne and he was like before this

1532
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 7: whole wonder boy thing and he was like, well, Magne's

1533
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 7: fighting Daniel Rodriguez And then I found out he actually

1534
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 7: was fighting Daniel Rigauz. Verrigaz ended up getting hurt later on.

1535
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 7: But I'm like, you're sitting there calling me on social media,

1536
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 7: but you have a fight, So why are you acting

1537
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 7: stupid for in line to the fans when you're when

1538
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 7: you're just being fake? And I'm like, I think he's

1539
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 7: being faked with all this I'm a tough guy talk

1540
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 7: and stuff like that. I would actually fight to my

1541
01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 7: IV I would actually sign the dot on the die

1542
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 7: of line. I'm not one of those guys gonna lie

1543
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:02,520
Speaker 7: about it.

1544
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 5: It's incredible, man, what you've accomplished this year, you know,

1545
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 5: inside the octagon, with your podcast, television career. The social

1546
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 5: media is hopping, you know, and certainly as a guy

1547
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 5: who is so intertwined with his fan base on social media,

1548
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 5: certainly nice when you have a win like this, right,

1549
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 5: you know, to be able to sort of celebrate that

1550
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 5: because you got a lot of believers out there, you know.

1551
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got a lot of believers and stuff for

1552
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 7: Kenny Florian and who picked against me, James.

1553
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 4: Krast against me.

1554
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 7: But it's all good, though I took that personally, but

1555
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 7: it's all good. My Teak believed in me.

1556
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:34,560
Speaker 4: I know, the antigutters believed in me.

1557
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 5: Hey, you know how much belief I have in you?

1558
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 5: And couldn't be happier. And it couldn't happen to a

1559
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 5: better dude. And I wish you all the best in

1560
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 5: the next fight, whether it's Covington or Burns. I have

1561
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 5: a sneaking suspicion that I'm going to see you in

1562
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 5: Rio de Janeiro in May, but we'll see you know,

1563
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 5: you never know, but congratulations on a big win, my brother,

1564
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 5: and I hope you can enjoy it. And so when

1565
01:09:58,160 --> 01:09:59,600
Speaker 5: are you back in the gym? I mean, I know

1566
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 5: you're a of course, but when are you?

1567
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 4: Like, really, my sister literally just messing me.

1568
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 7: Now, you want to go to the stairs. I'm like, yeah,

1569
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 7: you know, it's nice, out said, I'll go to the stairs.

1570
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 7: At the stairs a little bit, just get a get

1571
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 7: a work out it cause you know, I just said,

1572
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 7: Jared mess with me in the morning and he was like, oh,

1573
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 7: what are you eating right now? And I was like, man,

1574
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 7: I wasted it because I was at the airport all

1575
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 7: day yesterday and I was like, I ate like candy

1576
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,839
Speaker 7: and like animeate pretzels and like you feel like trash.

1577
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 4: And You're like, yeah, it.

1578
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 7: Wasn't even like word. It wasn't like a good meal

1579
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 7: where it's like all right now I got some good

1580
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 7: Chicago pizza or something like that.

1581
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 4: It was like wasted meal. So I'm like, you know what,

1582
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 4: now I need to work I deserve to work out now.

1583
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 5: All right, Well, congrats my brother, appreciate you carving out

1584
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 5: some time for us. Have a great week and a

1585
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 5: merry Christmas and a happy New Year.

1586
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 3: Brother.

1587
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 4: We'll talk to you guys, have brother remember the.

1588
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:47,719
Speaker 5: Name Balao Muhammad monumental victory over Stephen Wonner Boy Thompson

1589
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 5: over the weekend, and they will be live on Thursday

1590
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 5: night with remember the show on this channel. Hopefully Derek

1591
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 5: Lewis uh is a man of his word and the

1592
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 5: Black Beast will be on all right, Yeah, we'll see

1593
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 5: what happens, right, And there is a Muslim component to it, right.

1594
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 5: Part of the reason why Blao doesn't hop in the

1595
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 5: octagon and call for the Chimaya fight is because he's

1596
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 5: not going to call out a fellow Muslim, but he

1597
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 5: wants that fight, and I think, unlike some people, you know,

1598
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 5: I do think that Blao would take it under the

1599
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 5: terms of his current contract right now. You know, people

1600
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 5: take issue with almost anything I post about Hakamza Chimaya,

1601
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 5: and certainly I would submit to you that there are

1602
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 5: big names in that welterweight division that aren't in contention

1603
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 5: right now, like Nate Diaz, Jorge Mosfiedal and even Connor

1604
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 5: McGregor that constitute massive fights at one hundred and seventy

1605
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 5: pounds but in talking about the welterweight contenders, I have

1606
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 5: long said that the biggest fight other than a championship

1607
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 5: fight against Kamar Usman is the Kamza Chimaya fight. And

1608
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 5: for one reason or another, you know, people aren't calling

1609
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 5: this guy out like I do believe right that if

1610
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 5: Balal and he's heard me say this, right, so, anybody

1611
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 5: wants a bash me, oh Bashi guest on the way out,

1612
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 5: I'm not doing that. He's heard me say, like, dude,

1613
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 5: if you want the Chimaya fight, and he wants it

1614
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 5: like he wants it, right, Yeah, this Saturday night, Ken Flow,

1615
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 5: if you win your fight and you hop on the

1616
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 5: mic and you just say you don't answer anything that

1617
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 5: Michael Bisspaing asks you, and you say, hamzat fudging che mayah.

1618
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 5: Let me feel that strength, big boy. Okay, you're a

1619
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 5: light heavyweight. I'm in the top five now, motherfucker, main

1620
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 5: event February twelfth. Let's go okay, And then they signed

1621
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 5: the contract. Now, yep, he shows a different approach for

1622
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 5: myriad reasons. I'm just saying, like, if you really want

1623
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 5: the Chimaya fight, I think that's the way you go about.

1624
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 4: Sure, No, I agree. Listen, I do agree.

1625
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 6: Obviously, it's amazing the kind of following that Hamsat Chimaya

1626
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 6: has at this point. I think listening to Blaw right here,

1627
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 6: obviously he's a very confident fighter, and uh, he's firing

1628
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 6: in all cylinders right now, I think it's I think

1629
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 6: it'd be an awesome fight. Blall is one of the

1630
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 6: few guys that wants to fight Chimayav. Now is it

1631
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 6: a little.

1632
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 4: Bit more difficult to put together because they share the

1633
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 4: same manager? Is that correct? Is that right?

1634
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 5: I believe that Kamzad has since moved on from Ali Abdelaziz,

1635
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 5: and if if that is not the case, then I

1636
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 5: certainly will issue a retraction next week.

1637
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,759
Speaker 4: But I believe he was formerly managed by Ali.

1638
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 5: But again, you know, when when Blal at the end

1639
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 5: of round one is throwing those punches on wonder boy,

1640
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 5: Kamzad is like trolling Balal on social media as if

1641
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 5: to say they're pillow punches. So they're on each other's

1642
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 5: respective radar, you know, So I think that I think

1643
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 5: that that is a fight that has them legs. And again,

1644
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 5: when I did a Best of twenty twenty show for

1645
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 5: the UFC last year, they asked us all to come

1646
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 5: up with our dream fight for twenty twenty one. My

1647
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 5: answer at that time was Colby Covington versus Kamzaci Vibe,

1648
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,759
Speaker 5: And it seems like maybe that would be the matchup.

1649
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 5: Vicente Luca and Gilbert Burns are not going to fight

1650
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 5: each other.

1651
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 4: They're super close.

1652
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 5: They're number two and number four, So I think Blaw's

1653
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 5: opponent could come out of that mix. I think Burns

1654
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 5: and Muhammad makes a lot of sense. But you know,

1655
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 5: for Blal, he's in the mix right now and that's

1656
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 5: obviously a very exciting thing for him and for his

1657
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 5: show and everything else. All Right, we got to get

1658
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 5: on out of here. If you're looking for last minute

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Speaker 5: and don't forget Thursday and night. Remember the show live

1664
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Speaker 5: on this channel. Christmas Eve, I guess is Friday, so

1665
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 5: that'll be December twenty third, Ken Flow, Merry Christmas to you.

1666
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 5: Do you guys have a real tree or a fake tree?

1667
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 4: In your house right now.

1668
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 6: Thank you buddy. Merry Christmas to you guys as well.

1669
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 6: We have a massive real tree.

1670
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 4: Wow.

1671
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 6: I think I pulled my back like eight times just

1672
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 6: lifting me. This thing is at least fourteen feet tall.

1673
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 6: Do you get your tree like? We got our tree

1674
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:46,879
Speaker 6: in November?

1675
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 4: So it's like death. You gotta water this damp thing,

1676
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 4: I know.

1677
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 6: And that's what I was worried about, Like we gotta

1678
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 6: water this freaking monster every single day. And yeah, I

1679
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 6: was worried about it dying. That's the big But it's

1680
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 6: still alive. And if you will not.

1681
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 5: You did not transport it to the Florian mansion on

1682
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 5: the top of your Porsche, Is that correct you?

1683
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 4: I sure did.

1684
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 6: I'd put it right on the right on the suva right.

1685
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 6: I think it was past it.

1686
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 4: It was still. It looked like a cartoon.

1687
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 5: This is yeah, yeah, Chris, Well, all right, kid, have

1688
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 5: a great holiday. We are back next Monday. We will

1689
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 5: talk to Wan Carlos Santana from the Institute of Human Performance.

1690
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 5: We'll talk to him about some of the misconceptions, maybe

1691
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 5: some of the things you hear on the broadcast about

1692
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 5: strength and conditioning that maybe are patently untrue. So hopefully

1693
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Speaker 5: jac won't give it to us too hard. Also details

1694
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 5: on our internship sweepstakes for twenty twenty two, and of

1695
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Speaker 5: Afpuzz are coming up on Monday, January tenth. With that,

1697
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 5: thank you to our guests Ray Longo, Blao Muhammad, our

1698
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 5: executive producer. The man at the controls is Cody Marrow

1699
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 5: for kenn Flum John and thank you all for listening,

1700
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 5: for watching hit That subscribe button helps us in the

1701
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 5: long run. We appreciate it. Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays. We'll

1702
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 5: talk to you next Monday at the twenty seventh. Until then,

1703
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Speaker 5: don't text me, drive you later. This episode is sponsored

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Speaker 5: by Better Help. So when you are at your best,

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Speaker 5: you can do great things. But sometimes life gets you

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Speaker 5: bogged down and you may feel a touch overwhelmed. Perhaps

1707
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Speaker 5: you're not showing up the way that you would like to.

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Speaker 5: I can certainly relate.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 5: There's a phrase in the song there's no business like

1711
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 5: show business, and it says there's no people like show people.

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Speaker 4: They smile when they are low.

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Speaker 5: And for me, being in the public eye has been

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