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Wednesday afternoon? 28 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: Beautiful day to toksin foot ball forty nine ers Big 29 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: Red Flag a couple of weeks ago with Kyle in 30 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: regards to his defensive coordinator. Today it was officially validated 31 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes. We will dive into that as well as 32 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: an article I read today on was it the Patriot 33 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: Way or the Brady Way? And I think somewhat we're 34 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: missing the point of it's always the quarterback way And 35 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: just some other stuff around the NFL, the Bears and Panthers, 36 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: they're sitting at football, some changes to All Star games, 37 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: some thoughts on al Michaels as well as the Manning cast. 38 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: We will dive into it all. A lot going on. 39 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: Pretty fired up today for the show, as we always do. 40 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: The Middlecoff mailbag at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff as 41 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: the Instagram, fire in those dms and get your questions 42 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: answered here on the show. Very very easy to do 43 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: if you listen on Collins Feed, make sure you subscribe 44 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: to the three and out feed anywhere you listen to 45 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: your podcast. Grateful for all of you that have and 46 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: we will keep rocking and rolling. This will be the 47 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: my third podcast of the week. Yeah, third podcast of 48 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: the week. So we had one on Tuesday, Wednesday and 49 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: this is Thursdays. I did one with Colin for reaction 50 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: for Monday Reaction all the Sunday games, and then we'll 51 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: have another one reacting to Bears and Panthers as well 52 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: with with Stuckey and talking some gambling Michigan Penn State. 53 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: Connor Stallions. I feel like, I don't know why, but 54 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: it kind of bothers me that Ryan Day's brother was 55 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: the guy behind going after this, you know, Marine, thank 56 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: you for your service, Connor Stallions. But that's a story 57 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: that's not dying. That's that game between those two teams, 58 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: to me is going to be the highest rated Michigan 59 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: Ohio State game ever as long as they're both undefeated. 60 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: But with the buzz from this Connor Stallion thing, Ryan 61 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: Day's colored beard just for men's lead campaign guy. But 62 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: I don't even know why I'm talking about this, But 63 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: let's talk to some football. Here's what I need to do. 64 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: I need you to grab your phone. I need you 65 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: to download an app. It's called the game Time App. 66 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: It's the official ticketing app of this podcast. Fast scoring 67 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: ticketing app in America. 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Okay, let's dive 78 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: into something football wise. I've always been a big, big 79 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: proponent of not believing anything coaches say and thinking a 80 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: lot of stuff with press conferences you have to take 81 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: with a grain of salt. You know, their job in 82 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: terms of talking to the press and their job in 83 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: terms of behind closed doors talking to their teams are 84 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,799 Speaker 1: two separate things. And I'm always cognizant of that when 85 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: coaches talk, and why I don't hold them to super 86 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: high standards for not telling the truth and bullshitting. It's 87 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: kind of their job. They have to protect players when 88 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: people screw up, or protect coaches. It is what it is. 89 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: And then a couple of weeks ago, Kyle Shanahan, who 90 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: is one of the more candid I would say open 91 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: coaches and maybe it's just a lot of the younger 92 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: guys are but I don't listen enough to lafloor and 93 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: McVeigh to really validate that theory. But I know with 94 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: Kyle for the most part, he's very honest after games 95 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: during the week, and he said something a couple weeks ago, 96 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: just crushing his defensive coordinator. He said, Steve Wilkes would 97 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: like to have that call back and simply put, it's 98 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: not an acceptable call in the situation. Now, granted, this 99 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: was a call against the Minnesota Vikings, not at the 100 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: end of the game, not a play call that cost 101 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: him a touchdown in the fourth quarter. This was at 102 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: the end of the first half. They ran a zero 103 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: blitz left his corner who's highly paid fifteen million dollars 104 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: a year, Tarvarius Ward, in one on one coverage with 105 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: a rookie. The ball went right through his hands. Jordan 106 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: Nadison catches the ball, takes the house and you know, 107 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: proved to be a pretty big play in the grand 108 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: scheme of things. In the game, there was still a 109 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: half to be played, but the moment he did that, 110 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: and he basically threw the guy under the bus. Even 111 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: though the way coaches talk behind closed doors to their 112 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: other coaches to their players definitely can be uncomfortable, They 113 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: have uncomfortable conversations. The NFL is a sport full of 114 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: being uncomfortable twenty four seven three sixty five. As an 115 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: assistant coach, as a player, as a head coach, as 116 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: a GM, as an exec, as a scout. Part of 117 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: the business comes with the territory, but publicly for the 118 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: most part. It's why we crushed Zach Wilson last year 119 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: when he wouldn't take accountability. It's not even that you're 120 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: pointing the finger at you, it's just that you're not 121 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: pointing the finger at anyone else. Right. It's all kind 122 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: of stupid when you think about it in the grand 123 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: scheme of things. But that's why the coaches and the 124 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks typically take all the response. They're the highest paid guys, 125 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: they're the most public figures, and they just take the 126 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: shine and in terms of a negative light off everyone else. 127 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: And when Kyle Shanahan did that, I immediately theorized he's 128 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: not doing that because of us on the outside, the fans, 129 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: the media, whatever. He's doing that because his players are 130 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: starting to turn on this guy. His star players on 131 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: that side of the ball, one of the better units 132 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: over the last I don't know, four or five years, 133 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: aren't feeling this and aren't on board with what's going on. 134 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: And they've had back to back coordinators, and Robert Sala 135 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: and Demico Ryans go on to be head coaches, but 136 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: pretty unique figures when they were in the organization. They 137 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: were both on the sideline. I would say they had 138 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: this younger. Obviously both guys are younger, but this vibe 139 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: do him that just was perfect. Dimko did play in 140 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: the league. Robert Sahala feels like a former NFL player. 141 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: Their energy was palpable and clearly they knew these guys 142 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: really well. I mean, Dimico came in with sala As 143 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: I think as a quality control guy, worked his way 144 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: up as a position coach, and ultimately became the coordinator. 145 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: And then today it was announced that Steve Wilkes will 146 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: go from the booth to the field where obviously Demiko 147 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: Ryans and Robert sala was. To me, it reflects back 148 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: to what Kyle Shanahan did by throwing this guy under 149 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: the bus publicly to show his players that I have 150 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: her back. The next day than Steve Wilkes, before he's 151 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: even asked a question in his weekly press conference, he goes, 152 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: I would like that one back. I screwed up, I said, 153 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: what is going on? I've been following NFL press conferences forever. 154 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: This is the type shit that happens to a winless team, 155 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: to a team that's going to be drafting in the 156 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: top five, not a Super Bowl contender. I went, they 157 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: got a problem, And I thought, for I mean before 158 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: it actually happened, I thought this guy might get fired 159 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: during the bye week. Now they don't have anyone on 160 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: staff to take his job, but him coming from the 161 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: booth to the silent This is not some thirty three 162 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: year old first time coordinator. This is a guy who's 163 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 1: been in a league almost two decades. This is a 164 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: guy that almost just became the head coach for a 165 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: second time, full time with the Carolina Panthers. So to me, 166 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,239 Speaker 1: this is just not going well. And I know statistically 167 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: through the Dallas game when they were five and oh, 168 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: their defense was awesome, But clearly there is a line 169 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: of communication where not everyone's on the same page. And 170 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: to me, it starts with Fred Warner and Nick Bosa. 171 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: They ain't feeling this guy, because you don't make changes 172 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: like this when you're winning with a veteran coach if 173 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: things aren't weird. And they wanted to hire Vic Fangio, 174 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: but Kyle, you know, hesitated to change his defense. Vic's 175 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: more of a three to four guy, and they run 176 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: a true four to three defense. What Pete Carroll, you know, 177 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: it's morphed over the years, but a four to three 178 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: zone defense, and Dante Whitner, who played for the Niners 179 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: who now does stuff locally, and Richard Trmanez has talked 180 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: about this, said, Steve has tried to mesh a lot 181 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: of man concepts with zone concepts, and everything's out of 182 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: off kilter, everything's out of whack. And when you're an 183 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: elite team with highly paid guys literally the highest paid 184 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: defensive end, the best middle linebacker, star players surrounding them, 185 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: and you're in win now mode, there's no margin foreerr 186 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: so to me, Steve Wilkes officially, unofficially a couple of 187 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: weeks ago, his clock started like he's gonna be one 188 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: and done as a defensive coordinator. Now it's official, because 189 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: let's face it, like, let's use the Cowboys as an 190 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: example whether the defense fucks up or not. Mike McCarthy 191 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: would never throw Dan Quinn publicly under the bus. One 192 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: he respects him too much, knows how good he is. 193 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: And two you just don't do that to somebody. But 194 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: he started doing it last year at the end of 195 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: the season too. Who Kellen Moore? What happened? It was 196 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: clear by the time the season ended Kellen Moore wasn't 197 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: gonna be on the Cowboys. So the moment you start 198 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: publicly pulling the bus and driving it over one of 199 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: your assistant coaches, it's over. If you don't win. Bick. 200 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: So to me, the only way Steve wilk survived, like 201 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: I think, they'd have to win the NFC championship game, 202 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: and if their defense underwhelms as the season progresses or 203 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, audios, it's over. They already told you. 204 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: This is not college football. You don't do things like this, 205 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: even going back to a couple of weeks ago. You 206 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: don't publicly you drive the bus over your assistant, but 207 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: you do when you lose belief in them, and listen, 208 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: that's part of life. Part of me believing in you 209 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: in a production banks business is you producing. This is 210 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: very black and white. This is not a complicated industry. 211 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: Either win or you don't. Either play good defense or 212 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: you don't. Right and right now the forty nine ers 213 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: are losing and playing poor defense, and all eyes around 214 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: Steve Wilke's moving forward. Charles Robinson, who's covered the NFL 215 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: for as long as I've been around it and definitely 216 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: talked about it, wrote a long article today and I 217 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: would say the premise of it was is it was 218 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: never the Patriot way, it was the Brady way. And 219 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: he kind of concluded the article that if Bill would 220 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: have gotten his way and been able to transition and 221 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: get rid of Brady in like seventeen eighteen and go 222 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: to Jimmy Garoppolo, that it would have also ended like this, 223 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: And I'd push back a little bit. I think that 224 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: version of Jimmy is a lot version than the guy 225 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: that we see that just got Josh McDaniels and Dave 226 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: Ziegler relieved of their duties. But I don't disagree with 227 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: them because I would argue beside Bill Parcells, in my lifetime, 228 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: all the coaches who have been quote unquote big time 229 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: have had a star quarterback. Bill Parcells is the only guy, 230 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: and he happened to have I don't know, the greatest 231 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: defensive player in the history of the league essentially as 232 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: his quarterback in Lawrence Taylor, But from Walsh to Montana 233 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: to Holmegren de Farvre to now Andy with Mahomes and 234 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: Belichick and Brady. To become an all time great, To 235 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: become a Hall of Fame level guy, you have to 236 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: have a Hall of Fame level quarterback now and part 237 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: of that typically is not just their play, but their character, 238 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: their leadership. Like young Far of the Homegroun version was beloved, 239 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: got along with everybody, was the heartbeat of that team. 240 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: Joe Montana buddies with everyone on the squad. So when 241 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: you get the total package, the player, the character. We've 242 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: talked about this with Joe Burrow, your organization becomes a 243 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: rocket ship. Let's say the Bengals win a super Bowl 244 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: this year and Zach Taylor has on his resume three 245 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: straight conference championship games, a super Bowl appearance in a 246 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: super Bowl championship Like, let's face it, Google, how many 247 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: guys have that resume? Not many. And this gets back 248 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: to you can only do that with a great quarterback. 249 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: I will defend Belichick unlike McDaniels and Patricia and Judge 250 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: and a lot of these coaches who you wouldn't want 251 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: in fifty miles of your team if you're a fan, 252 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: an owner, or a general manager. I do think Bill, 253 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: if you give him a capable quarterback, has proven over 254 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: and over and over again he can win, that he 255 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: can build the team, that he can function as a 256 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: GM and as a coach. Now at seventy one, seventy 257 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: two years old? Has he lost his touch? Has he 258 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: lost a lot of coaches? Is it not the same? 259 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: But the Patriot way? Of course, it was the Brady way. 260 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: The Chiefs were pretty good when they had Alex Smith. 261 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: They became a fucking powerhouse with Mahomes. Did Andy just 262 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden get smarter? No? Right? Is Phil 263 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: Jackson the greatest basketball mind of all time? Or does 264 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: he benefit from being able to have Kobe Shack Michael like? 265 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: Part of being a great coach is having a great player. 266 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: And usually when your great player is also your most competitive, 267 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: your best leader, it all funnels down. Antonio Pierce said 268 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: this the other day. He was when he took over 269 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: and he talked about in his experience with the Super 270 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: Bowl team. He said, the best teams are player run operations. 271 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: The best operations. But what do they always say about 272 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: successful companies. They're not about the walls on the outside, 273 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: They're about the people on the inside. It's no different 274 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: than the football team. It just happens to be that 275 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: position has such a you know, extraordinary amount of power 276 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: of juice of eyeballs on them. So when you get 277 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: the right guy It's why we talk about it so 278 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: much during the draft. It's why this quarterback draft is. 279 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: It's why everyone the moment Caleb Williams went and cried 280 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: with his mom, everyone had a fucking opinion. If that 281 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: was Marvin Harrison Junior, or you know, the wide receiver 282 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: from Florida State. I'm just trying to think of some 283 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: of the top prospects. The offensive lineman from Arizona or 284 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: penn State. No one would even have talked about. It 285 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't even have noticed. But it was Caleb Williams. If 286 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: that would have been Drake may or Michael Pennix, it 287 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: would have been the same thing. Everyone would have had 288 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: to take. Is this guy tough enough to be your 289 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: starting quarterback? No one gives a shit when it's your guard, 290 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: right or your running back. It would have been, oh, 291 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, the guy's emotional man, his mom. That's cool moment. 292 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: When it's quarterback, everyone's nippicking. Is this guy mentally tough 293 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: enough to be the leader of a franchise. That's why 294 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: everyone shortened Mac Jones. Just not good enough, whiney country 295 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: club kid, not talented enough. You will lose. If Andy 296 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: Reid had Mac Jones or Kyle Shanahan had mac Jones 297 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: or Pete Carroll had mac Jones, guess what they would 298 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: have issues. It would not be going well. Whenever I 299 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: hear this notion that mac Jones would have been fined 300 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: on the forty nine ers, I want to throw up 301 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: in my mouth. Maybe it would have looked better than 302 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: it has in New England because they have more talent 303 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: around him, but they by no means would be as 304 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: good as they were a couple years ago with Jimmy 305 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: and now they are with Purty because those guys are 306 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: way better players than him. That's not an opinion, that's 307 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: an objective fact. I said it when the season started. 308 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: Mac Jones was gonna get everyone fired. Bill didn't become 309 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: an idiot overnight. Now his staff has gotten worse over 310 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: the years, but mac Jones was his problem. If you 311 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: gave Bill Belichick, let's just pick Kirk Cousins. They're competing 312 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: to be a wild card team, and you're like, God, 313 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: some feisty little squad, But you give him a shitty quarterback, 314 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: just like you give any coach a shitty quarterback, you're 315 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: gonna lose. So, of course, the Patriot way was the 316 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: Brady way is the Chiefs way, the Mahomes way, right, 317 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the way it works. That's part of 318 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: the deal. Not that Bill didn't have a huge saying 319 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: that as well, but without that guy, you have no way. 320 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: You just lose. That's the way it works in football. 321 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this today because I was I 322 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: was listening to this to some of Bill Simmons podcasts 323 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: at the gym, and I love it when you know 324 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: he's Windhors has been talking about this forever. I actually 325 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: listen to a lot more NBA content, like I don't 326 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: really watch NBA games, Simmons and some Warriors podcast like, 327 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: I actually listened to a lot of NBA podcasts. Jason 328 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: tim here on the volume does a good job. Obviously, 329 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: Draymond when he's rocking and rolling, it can be pretty entertaining. 330 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: And Simmons was just crushing Adam Silver, who's the worst 331 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: commissioner in the history of the league. And I mean 332 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: they've lost half their audience. The league is much more 333 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: powerful as a podcast sentity, as a YouTube entity than 334 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: it actually is as a television product. And I was thinking, like, 335 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: the NFL has a lot of advantages in twenty twenty 336 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: three relative to the other two sports Baseball, you play 337 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: every day like I'm sorry, too much is going on. 338 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: We have such small attention spans. There's too much to do. 339 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: We got too many fucking options. Unless you're the ultimate 340 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: seam head, you're not sniffing more than like a game 341 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: a week. You're just not the average person in The 342 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: ratings reflect that same thing with the NBA. If I 343 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: took the two worst teams, I saw my guy Ethan 344 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: Sherwood Strauss has a fantastic substack, and he writes about 345 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: how in trouble the NBA is with their future television deal, 346 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: right and just the way television has changed dramatically and 347 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: just relative to their numbers, like they're not gonna get 348 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: what they think they're gonna get financially, and honestly, it 349 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: could be worse. Could be the first media deal that 350 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: goes down or at least stays the same. They're not 351 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: doubling or tripling it, Like that ship has passed. And 352 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: part of it is because you can't take two random 353 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: teams who are terrible and put it on TV and 354 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: expect anyone to care and expect anyone to watch because 355 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: they don't in baseball or basketball. When you put two 356 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: shitty teams on television, the consumer does not sit on 357 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: his couch and give you his time, which is by 358 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: far I mean, honestly, it's the most valuable thing we 359 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: have in life. But for a lot of these businesses, 360 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: especially these pro sports league, the most valuable thing you 361 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: can give them is your time to watch their game. 362 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: It's how they make their money. And the more you 363 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: do that, the more the TV networks wants to want 364 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: to keep reupping or these streaming services one in on 365 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: their business. That's the life blood of all their cash. Right, 366 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: what's the lifeblood of college football or basketball recruiting? What's 367 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: the lifeblood of pro sports? Now? Time yours sitting on 368 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: the couch watching their events, and football is still the 369 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: only event where you can put arguably the two worst 370 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: teams on television. You can put the Giants right there 371 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: now with Tommy DeVito, the Bears and Panthers on Thursday 372 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: Night Football. And I've said forever football is not going 373 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: to stay on top my entire life. Hopefully it does 374 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: another twenty years, because I'm in the prime of doing this, 375 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: and I can do this into my sixties. Talking about 376 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: football and at rips and roars. But there's going to 377 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: come a time when I'm alive, assuming I live a 378 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: long time, that football will fall off, not off a cliff, 379 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: but we'll come back to earth. Nothing stays on top forever, 380 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: whether it's Rome or whether it's fucking Pepsi and coke things, 381 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: EBB and flow, doesn't mean you can't have a long 382 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: shelf life. And they're in the prime of it right 383 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: now of being the only event where you can get 384 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: ten million people to watch to nine point two million people. Now, 385 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: granted these were the best team in the league over 386 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: the last five years. The Chiefs in the Miami Dolphins, 387 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: one of the more fun teams in the league over 388 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: the last two years. On television, did almost ten million 389 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: people at six thirty am Pacific Standard time nine to 390 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: thirty am on Sunday Eastern Time. That's pretty crazy. That 391 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: shows you the power. Now this is going to test 392 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: it Thursday Night Football on Amazon Bears Panthers. Now, I 393 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: could act like a tough guy and be like, if 394 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: I didn't do this for a living, I wouldn't watch 395 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: I would. I would have it on my TV. I would, 396 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure if I didn't do this for 397 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: a living. I would probably play fantasy football. I definitely. 398 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: I mean I might bet this anyway, kind of like 399 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: the Panthers in this spot. Not really, but actually I 400 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't. It's hard game to bet, but regardless, I 401 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: would have it on just like most of you will, 402 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: just have it on in the background. And that's the 403 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: power of the NFL. You can put two teams that 404 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: are starting. The dude from Sheppard College baged it. I 405 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: always screw up his name. One thing the Panthers have, 406 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: even for being probably headed to have the worst record 407 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: in the league, they got Bryce Shaw, who was a 408 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: superstar in college. That's another element that the NFL has 409 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: separated from for example basketball. College football is the second 410 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: biggest sport currently in America. So Drake May and Caleb 411 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: Williams and Marvin Harrison Junior and all these players get 412 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: to become stars. Right. It's the big issue I have 413 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: with live golf. What the PGA Tour does is it 414 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: creates stars. At live golf, you can't create any stars 415 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: if you just buy them all. Part of having a 416 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: league is creating stars. What is CJ. Stroud be coming 417 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: before our eyes? A potential NFL star, but the dude 418 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: was already a big time star in college because he 419 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: played at Ohio State multiple year starter. They have that 420 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: built in advantage of having college football being so massive. 421 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: All the biggest brands produce the most NFL talent and 422 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: we get to watch them and know them. Like when 423 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: I was a kid, all the guys playing in the NBA, 424 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: I knew, why could I watch them play college basketball? 425 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: From Alan Iverson and Shaquille O'Neil do you name it right? 426 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: And obviously the one and Dune's change the game and 427 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: then going straight from high school, which I'm not saying 428 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 1: I actually care. It's another thing. Media people are always like, 429 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: that is not right, that is not fair. It's not 430 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: about fair or not fair, just about what is the 431 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: best for the business and right now for the NFL, 432 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: the best thing that could ever happen in the business. 433 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: Whenever I hear media people like there shouldn't be a draft, 434 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: fuck that The reason this is all create This is 435 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: all about interest. Everything we do is about having people care. 436 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: And what does the draft do it creates interest? Fair not, 437 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even give a shit. I 438 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: just care about how important that moment is for the 439 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: lifeblood of everyone in the league. That helps lead to 440 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: more money for everyone. Does it suck that some guys 441 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: have to go to teams that they don't want to 442 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: go do? Sure, But does it ultimately that guy turns 443 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 1: out to be good lead to more money in his pocket. 444 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: Hell yeah. So I just think that Thursday Night will 445 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: test us, but ultimately, even if it's the lowest rated 446 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: game of the year, I think it still shows the 447 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: power of the league. And another story I saw today 448 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: about All Star games, you know forever to play in 449 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: an All Star game East West Shrine Game, obviously the 450 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, you had to be a senior. You had 451 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: to have graduated college or have used all your eligibility 452 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: as as a player. So a lot of times when 453 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: you go to the East West Shrine Game or the 454 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: Players Union Bowl, or the HBCU All Star Game or 455 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: any of them, it was maybe a couple I mean, 456 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl had the best prospects, but on a 457 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: given year, maybe a couple first rounders and a lot 458 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: of second to seventh round players. Right, And today they 459 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: announced that underclassmen, so for example, Caleb Williams or Marvin 460 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: Harrison junior or any guy that has more years left 461 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: of college eligibility is eligible to play in these games, which, 462 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: in theories of God, that's awesome. Well, none of those 463 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: guys are going to play in the Senior Bowl, right, 464 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 1: No guy that's going in the first round who's an 465 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: underclassman would risk playing in that game. There's not a 466 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: lot to gain, especially a top fifteen to twenty prospect, 467 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: So that won't change much now all of a sudden, 468 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: You're not gonna see Drake May and Caleb Williams playing 469 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: in these games. Where I do think you will see 470 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: Gus Is some underclassmen, and I don't blame him. Don't 471 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: like school, Like this is a waste. I don't want 472 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: to attempt to stay eligible. Nil's cool, but like I 473 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: just want to play in the NFL. I'm ready to go. 474 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: But based on my resume and my tape, my agent 475 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: and everyone's telling me, you're gonna be a third or 476 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: fourth round pick. Before if that guy came out early, 477 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: the only way he could increase his stock is the 478 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: combine and the Pro Day, which has nothing to do 479 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: with football, right. Belichick has famously said forever like, we 480 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: don't pay you to bench press and run. Forties pay 481 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: you to play football. So that's where the Senior Bowl. 482 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there have been guys obviously that the lane Johnson's, 483 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Donalds, Ziggy Ziggyansa's who have gone there and just 484 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: dominated you're actually playing football, you're in pats going live 485 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: in practice against other guys who are going to be drafted. 486 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: I so I would expect a lot more of those guys, 487 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, the third, fourth, maybe even a second round 488 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: guy to have the opportunity to be like, what if 489 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: this guy just shows that he's an equal and goes 490 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: from like pick sixty, Like maybe we should think about 491 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: this guy at the end of the first early in 492 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: the second round. So I don't think I think the 493 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: headlines will be like Caleb Williams is now eligible to 494 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: play in the Senior Bowl, Kayleb Williams or whoever that is, 495 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, so you name the player will never play 496 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: in that game, nor should it's he has nothing to gain. 497 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: But the random guys, and they're not random once they're 498 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: in the NFL. But the underclassmen who are not locks 499 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: to get drafted in the first round and maybe even 500 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: the second round, to me, should and will play in 501 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: those games. A couple other things I saw to day. 502 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: Al Michael said that he plans on coming back in 503 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, that he has no desire to step away, 504 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: and that like John Madden, when he no longer feels 505 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: he's good at it or has the same passion, he'll 506 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: walk away. And I want to say this, and I 507 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: say this over and over without he's an all time legen. 508 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: He's an all time great. It's hard there might be 509 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: the rest of my life a couple versions of al Michaels, right, 510 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: maybe not even it's gonna be harder to because back 511 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: some of the games he called, whether it was the 512 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: Quake World Series or the you know, the nineteen eighty hockey, Like, 513 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: there just aren't as many just important moments that all 514 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: of us are watching. It's so segmented. So honestly, there 515 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: might never be another al Michaels. But I was thinking about, 516 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: like the shitty part about being shot at your job 517 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: is like everyone knows it before you. And I compare 518 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: him a lot to Marv Albert. Marv Albert is a 519 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: fucking legend, like an all time great. When I think NBA, 520 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: I think Marv Albert. But by the end Marv Albert 521 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: was terrible. He couldn't say guys names, he didn't know 522 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: what was going on. Think about it from a playing perspective, 523 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning is one of the greatest players any sport 524 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: I'll ever watch in my entire life. I love watching 525 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning play football. I loved when I worked in 526 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: the NFL talking to people that had been on teams 527 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: with Peyton Manning, that had worked either in the front 528 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: office or on the coaching staff with Peyton Manning, and 529 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: just talking about Peyton Manning. But that last season was 530 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: not Peyton Manning. I went to a game when the 531 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: Raiders played him and the he could barely throw the ball. 532 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: Charles Woodson ironically picked him off twice in that game, 533 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: had never picked him off in his career. And one 534 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: of the picks down the sideline, I remember just watching 535 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: it float in the air. Now, Peyton never had He 536 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: was never Brent Farr throwing the ball. But like, that 537 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: was not Peyton Manning. That was a shell of himself 538 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: because his arm was done no different than like because 539 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: I saw Florio wrote Everyone's gonna miss him, Yet we 540 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: missed the al Michaels, just like we missed the Brent Musburger, 541 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: or we missed the Marv Albert just like that last year, 542 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: even though he did win the Super Bowl, his team 543 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: did Von Miller Super Bowl MVP. That was not the 544 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. Like the Peyton Manning we missed was years before. 545 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: So I know it's hard, and I don't know if 546 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: not saying that Amazon's gonna have better options in terms 547 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: of name recognition, but in terms of like this version 548 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: of Al Michaels, and it feels like I'm talking shit 549 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: and I'm really not. Like his career is unprecedented, it's 550 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: beyond special. He is. He's one of the rare guys 551 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: that I don't care who you are, you just liked 552 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: listening to call your sporting events. But this version that 553 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: we're hearing now is not that guy. He's just not. 554 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: So you know, I understand why, and listen. He can 555 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: talk shit about social media and everyone being negative on 556 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: at all he wants, and there's some truth to that 557 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: from a macro level, but about his specific situation, they're 558 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: not wrong. The other thing I saw is the Manning cast, 559 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: the Manning cast, And I was thinking about this because 560 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: the other night I was at home. I love Arnold Schwarzenegger. 561 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,959 Speaker 1: I've loved Arnold's entire life. It's like his entire career 562 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: from lifting and pumping iron to easily my favorite action 563 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: hero of the eighties and the nineties. I've watched every 564 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: Arnold movie fifty times. I can't get enough to now. 565 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: This version of him hanging out with his donkeys Lola 566 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: and I forget the other donkey's name, and the donkey 567 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: came on. I saw it going viral, and I tried 568 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: to watch it for a second with the Peyton and Eli, 569 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: And let me say this, I love Peyton Eli. Like 570 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: I said, I was a diehard Peyton Manning guy. I've 571 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: always had a lot of respect for Eli Manning. I 572 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: would love to hang out with him. I'd love to 573 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: drink beer with them. I'd love to golf with them. 574 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: I'd love to have him on the podcast. But as 575 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: a viewer and as a consumer, because that's what I am, 576 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: first and foremost, no different than anyone else. When I 577 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: was just trying to watch the Monday night game, I 578 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: remember loving them when they first came on because the 579 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: broadcast was atrocious. It was unwatchable from the Booger to 580 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: the Jason Witten to the Greasey Lewis and listen, I 581 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: worked with Lewis, but him and Levy like that, It's 582 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: just that was not what this is like. This you 583 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: turn it on with Troy and Joe feels like a 584 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: real high level, big time NFL broadcast. It might not 585 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: be Madden in summer role, but it's relative to the rest, 586 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: it's pretty damn good and it feels big again. And 587 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: I noticed as a consumer, like I used to for 588 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: that year, every time they were on, just watch the 589 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: Manning cast. And I tried to watch with Arnold. I'm like, 590 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: there's always a little delay, it's always a little awkward. 591 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even want to watch this right now. 592 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: Not because I don't want to hang out with Peyton 593 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: or hang out with Eli, or even hang out with Arnold. 594 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: I just don't. I just want to watch the fucking game. 595 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: And now that the game is much more fluid because 596 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: of the broadcast, and listen, you gotta give credit to ESPN. 597 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: They may be, you know, burning cash at a rapid rate, 598 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: but hiring those guys away from Fox might have saved 599 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. And I think a big reason that 600 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: the Manning cast, they basically their viewership has been cut 601 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: in half over the last couple of years, and it's 602 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: kind of understandable. And I think a big reason for 603 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: that is it's reflective of Joe and Troy. It's much 604 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: easier to just watch the broadcast. And let's face it, 605 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: like if I wanted just watch those guys host a 606 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: podcast and bullshit, it'd be easy. But I'm actually trying 607 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: to watch the game. And I think about this, like 608 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: when I've tried to watch, you know, the McAfee do 609 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: college games, you know, And I don't blame these networks 610 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: for trying I don't blame these guys for doing it, 611 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: trying to be entertaining, But like when I'm trying to 612 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: watch a game, I just want to watch the fuck game. 613 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: I just want to watch the game, and then after 614 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: if these guys want to give their after reaction, then 615 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: maybe I'll tune in right if it's good enough. But 616 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: during the game, just too much going on. I just 617 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: want to watch it. And I think the consumer has 618 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: shown that they're in agreement. They just want to watch 619 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: the game. Why Because it's much easier to watch that 620 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: there's no more broadcasters that should not be in that situation. 621 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't blame any of those broadcasters for accepting those 622 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: jobs on Monday Night Football. They had to say, yes, 623 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 1: none of them should have been on it. This that 624 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: product is, you know, Troy Aikman, John Gruden, John Madden. 625 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: It's a big time show. We're talking fifteen twenty, twenty 626 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: five million people. It's one of the biggest shows we 627 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: have American we have my entire life. And ESPN got 628 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: cheap for a minute in a backfire. In fairness, like 629 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: when Gruden left, they were kind of screwed, but they 630 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: kind of got their swag back, and you can talk 631 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: listen If you don't like Bach or Aikman, I get it, 632 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: but I think even you would have to admit that 633 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: like they feel big time. Don't miss the action this 634 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: weekend when the Colts and the New England Patriots head 635 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: to Germany for the NFL Frankfurt Games. 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Just go 645 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: to Verizon dot Com slash the volume to bundle and 646 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: save before the games. Hurry, this offer end soon again. 647 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: That's Verizon dot Com. Slash the volume. Okay, let's rattle off. 648 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to rattle off a lot of mailbag questions. Hey, John, 649 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: first time listener of the pot, first time mailbager, A 650 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: longtime listener, listen to talk about how Lane Kiffin and 651 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: the job he's done with Old miss had me thinking, 652 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: could Lane work in the NFL with a good staff 653 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: DC around. Would he be an upgrade over say McDermott 654 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: to take the Bills to the next level? Or is 655 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: laying the type of guy to only work in college? 656 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: I think Lane one could work in the NFL. His 657 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: family has a long background, right His dad was a 658 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: longtime coach, one of the best defensive coordinators ever. His 659 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: brother has bounced around college in the NFL lane. While 660 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: it was a short stint, has been a coach in 661 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: the NFL. I wouldn't even count that but one. I mean, 662 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: he worked for Nick Saban for several years. It was 663 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: basically an NFL operation. So yeah, I think Lane. I 664 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: think the only question mark with him will be is 665 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: there are some questions I think with him off the field. 666 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: But listen, we always I said it earlier on the 667 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: podcast bottom Line Business. It's very black and white. You 668 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 1: win or you lose, and he wins a lot if 669 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: he has ole miss Now several years in a row 670 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: in the top twenty five. Maybe they didn't make it 671 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: last year because they lost a bunch of games in 672 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: the end of season, but a couple of years ago 673 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: they were really good. Now they're really good. Wayne's been awesome. 674 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: Have a question for the mailbag. First off, fan the 675 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: podcast a couple of years now great content, What in 676 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: your opinion would be the best case scenario for the Bears. 677 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: Is justin field still the better option? Or would you 678 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: got would want one of the guys coming out of 679 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: college next year give us a better chance of winning. 680 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: As a longtime Bears fan, the losing seasons have been 681 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 1: pretty bad. I would agree that there's nothing worse. There's 682 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: nothing like football, man, because you get built up so 683 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: like throughout the offseason, especially once you get a guy 684 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: like Fields. Even it's so easy to go, well, this 685 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: is the year he takes a step and obviously ill 686 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: slow it started, and then he had a couple of 687 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: games where he threw whatever eight touchdowns, and now he's injured. 688 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: I think it's over. I think as long as they 689 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: get the number one pick, they will draft Kleb Williams, 690 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: they will trade Justin Fields and they will use the 691 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: other pick on someone else. Now, what is Justin Field's value, 692 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 1: I guess it would depend whenever he comes back, how 693 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: he looks. My guess is probably like a third or 694 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: fourth round pick at best. So you know, I think 695 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 1: the Justin Fields era, I think it will be easy 696 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: to somewhat defend him because they were so dysfunctional, The 697 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: coaching staff was so over their head, the organization was 698 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: in such shambles. But I think it's unofficially already over. 699 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: I would say, you beat Carolina as you should on 700 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,479 Speaker 1: Thursday night, like you're getting the number one pick, and 701 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: you know, Justin Fields I was a huge fan of 702 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: him coming out of college. I would say when you 703 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: watch him play, though, you know, you kind of know 704 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 1: quickly and there's a passing element to his game. Obviously 705 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: he's got a big arm, but even some of the 706 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: touchdowns that he threw when he had the eight touchdowns 707 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: in a couple games like Week three and four, I mean, 708 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: some of that's just DJ Moore being like a freak. 709 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: You know, so like you watch CJ. Stroud, he doesn't 710 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 1: look like that. Maybe it's Philly and me, but every 711 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: time you do a game time spot, all I hear 712 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: is promo code John Love It really enjoy listen to you. 713 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: Wasn't even a question. Curious your thoughts. I'm a USC 714 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: fan and have been watching Caleb for two years. He's 715 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: a talent, but I wonder about his ability to read 716 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: defenses from the pocket. I know USC's offensive line is garbage, 717 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: but it seems he only makes big plays by running 718 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: around for eight seconds. Do you think this will be 719 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: a problem for him in the NFL. When he couldn't 720 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: run versus Utah in the PAC twelve championship game, he 721 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: was completely ineffective. I know people that aren't the biggest 722 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 1: Caleb fans relative to the hype, right, it's all relative 723 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: to the hype. People will be like, listen, obviously he's 724 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: a big time talent, but relative to this can't miss 725 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: all time great prospect, they just disagree. They don't view 726 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: it that way. Now, every individual is different, And one 727 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: thing I heard, I know one guy who has Drake 728 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: may over Caleb Williams says that in the context of 729 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: an offense, he kind of can be hit or miss. 730 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: Now as a playmaker, as a scrambler, as a scrambler 731 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: and thrower, he's fucking elite his ability to make things happen, 732 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,720 Speaker 1: and you can be a great player like that. Russell 733 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 1: Wilson built a Hall of Fame career on that, maybe 734 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: not anymore, but Deshaun Watts and became a star doing that. 735 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: And I think he's way more talented than both those guys. 736 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think the question mark is can you 737 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: just sit in the pocket and read a defense, play 738 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: in and play out. Now, you could argue do you 739 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: have to do that? Right? Like Kyle Shanahan's offense gets 740 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: you a lot on the move, Andy Reid will get 741 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: you on the move. Pete Carroll let you move around. 742 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: So you kind of have to play to your player strengths. 743 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: But that that would be the question and part of 744 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: sitting in the pocket. Well, what's the knock on him? 745 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: He's not that tall. Well, if you're six feet tall 746 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: and you're standing behind three guys that are six four 747 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: and six ' five, you see very well, of course 748 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: not but if you're six five sixty six, Tom Brady, 749 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: Payton Manning is much easier to see when guys are 750 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: your height are a little shorter, and I think that 751 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: is one thing that can be difficult for shorter quarterbacks. 752 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: It's why I think people like Drake may he's six ' 753 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: five Chargers fan stay at These first two years were 754 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: under achievements with zero playoff wins, But how do you 755 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: see the Charger season playing out in the final nine games. 756 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: I do believe Staley has righted the ship with a 757 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: special teams coordinator, an offensive coordinator hires, and the energy 758 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: of the defense has never looked better under Staley. Sometimes 759 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: it takes time for young coach to develop, especially Staley, 760 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: who really didn't have NFL experience or connections a few 761 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: years ago that he has now. Listen, your guy's talent. 762 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: When Joey and Khalil are rushing like that, and Derwin 763 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: James is lighting guys up, and Herbert's making plays, and 764 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: Keenan Allen. Obviously, Mike Williams has gone for the year. 765 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: Eckler had an awful game, but he's a really good player. 766 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: Your your talent on the team is pretty good. I 767 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: can never get behind just Staley in general, the way 768 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: he talks, his his inclination to go for it when 769 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: not a soul in the world would go for it. 770 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: But I will give you this, I like the Kellen 771 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: Moore higher, even though I didn't. He was driving me 772 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: nuts the other night. Like run the ball, bro, I 773 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: don't care if it's me running the foot ball, running 774 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: three times punt. They can't score. The point of football 775 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: is not to get your guys the most pass attempster yards, 776 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: is to win the game. But they definitely look better now. 777 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: They played the Jets, and I forget who they played 778 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: two weeks ago. Big game this week. I think this 779 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: is a big week. I think it's a huge week. 780 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: It's honestly one of the better games on the schedule. 781 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: Schedule is not great. This week might be the best 782 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: game of Sunday. It's definitely beside Niners Jags. The game 783 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm most interested in, Like, do the Lions just roll 784 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 1: out to La is it eighty percent Lions fans? Do 785 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: they shove it down the Chargers throats? Or do the 786 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 1: Chargers just look like they do the other night and 787 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: physically like Joey Bosa and Khalil are fucking bringing it. 788 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: It's obviously a little easier to pass on the Lions 789 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 1: than it is the Jets. But I'm excited to watch 790 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: that game. So you win that game, then you play 791 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: the Packers like you're probably a playoff team. You lose 792 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: that game, you're probably more of that eight nine, nine, eighteen. 793 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: You win this like I would say ten and seven's 794 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: on the table, which isn't bad after the start. You 795 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: guys had question for the mailbag. Been a lifelong Falcons 796 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: fan and apparently a sucker for pain. What is Arthur 797 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: Smith doing in Atlanta? How are we doing sweeps to 798 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: John hu Smith with Kyle Pitt's blocking and Bejon on 799 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: the sideline? I feel like the way he refuses to 800 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: use his players as star players is and losing the 801 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: Viking Sunday should be a fireable offense. Totally agree When 802 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: you lose games like that to a fifth round quarterback 803 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: who gets ko to a guy who showed up three 804 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: or four days ago that doesn't know guys on the 805 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: team's names, let alone the playbook, it's hard to shake 806 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: it really is, and be like, well, you lost to 807 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and Justin Jefferson and John randall Right, that 808 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,919 Speaker 1: ain't the case. That's not who the Vikings were rolling out. 809 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: You only get so many of those losses. Michael Lombardi's 810 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: been saying it for a while and he's dead right. 811 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: That wash McDaniel's downfall. He had the worst freaking losses possible. 812 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith's now have a couple of these. And I 813 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 1: saw today a headline that Heinikey's gonna be their quarterback 814 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: and they don't plan on going musical chairs. So basically 815 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: what he's saying is Ritter's not the guy we're gonna 816 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: roll with. Heinekee. They're not gonna make the playoffs with Heinekee. 817 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: And I actually kind of like Heinekey and he's better 818 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: than Ridder, but the quarterback to roll into the season 819 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: with that many skill guys, and obviously they're improved on 820 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: defense personnel, wise and to go, we're gonna roll with 821 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: Desmond Ridter. I just don't think you can do that. 822 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: You can't. You're not gonna win the division. The Saints 823 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: are gonna win, and that division stinks. It's not like 824 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,439 Speaker 1: the Saints are any good. I was just about done 825 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: with Jordan Love. Then I watched him play the Rams 826 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: this weekend. Honestly, they look like a very poorly coached team. 827 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: Constant penalties, fumbles, couldn't run the ball at all, always 828 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: in third and long. I wonder if it's fair to 829 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: make a judgment on Jordan Love when it seems like 830 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 1: Lafleur has no control over the offense. I'd be lying 831 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,879 Speaker 1: if I said I watched a lot of that game, 832 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: so it's hard to give a true assessment on that 833 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Love performance. I'm with you, it feels like Lafleur, 834 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: the buttoned up elements of the squad aren't really there 835 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: now they've had a bunch of injuries. I will say 836 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: this when I've watched just Jordan Love, not Rams game withstanding, 837 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: I think he's gotten progressively worse. I hear you. You 838 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: typically look worse when a team is discombobulated, when you're 839 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: turning the ball over in other aspects of beside interceptions penalties. 840 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 1: But and listen, maybe Lafleur he was just a product 841 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: of Rogers. I don't know. I kind of liked him, 842 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 1: but maybe I'm wrong. I would say Jordan Love's Packer 843 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: career is in major doubt. But I hear you, I 844 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 1: mean it might be maybe we should also question. Okay, 845 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 1: Jordan Love might not be the guy, but always sure 846 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: to laflora is. I think that is very valid now, 847 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: the dynamics of that franchise. I think people have asked 848 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: me this before. And I was texting with the guy 849 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: a while back and we were talking about, like, could 850 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh go to the Packers. I just don't see 851 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: them firing those two guys. Those two guys are getting 852 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: another quarterback. They just are because they didn't screw the 853 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,800 Speaker 1: Packers with this quarterback. Aaron ultimately wanted out. It was time. 854 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: You could argue they were right. I mean, if you 855 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: view Achilles like a tire or something, it was bound 856 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: to pop. But they didn't screw themselves financially with this kid. 857 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: To me, they would be in major trouble if they 858 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: had picked up his fifth year option'd like, do these 859 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 1: guys know what they're doing? But they didn't. They gave 860 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 1: him just a joke contract, so it's not gonna hurt 861 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: them at all. And they basically just used him to 862 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: get out of this financial situation that they were in 863 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: this year. So if it wasn't good, it's like whatever, 864 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: we'll just move on. I think they get another quarterback 865 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 1: and then I think the heat will. I think the 866 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: heat starts next year with whoever their quarterback is on 867 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 1: the floor, and probably Goudikins. I'm not a Bucks fan, 868 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: but really like Baker. I think he's a lot better 869 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: than you and your boy Colin give him credit for 870 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: he has been through the ringer when it comes to dysfunction. 871 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: He currently has a higher QB rating than Jimmy G 872 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: and Derek Carr and basically the same rating as Trevor 873 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: Lawrence with more tds than all of them without any 874 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: kind of running game. Yet you constantly ranked Carr and 875 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: Jimmy G top ten to fifteen quarterbacks and Lawrence as 876 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: a Tier one. Well, Jimmy G one hundred percent isn't 877 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,839 Speaker 1: a top twenty five quarterback this year, and Derek Carr 878 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: has not been good either. So in twenty twenty three, 879 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has been better than those guys. I don't 880 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: disagree with you now, he went through a stretch previously 881 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 1: to the latter who they just play? I was watching 882 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 1: that game, who beat them? Oh? CJ. Stroud. He was 883 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: pretty good in that game. He made a lot of 884 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: nice throws in the game against the Texans, But previously 885 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 1: he had not been playing well, and I would agree, like, 886 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: I give him a lot of credit for not just 887 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: resurrecting his career, but kind of resurrecting the character around 888 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: his career. And he's having a nice job. But is 889 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: he better than Jimmy G right now? Of course Jimmy 890 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 1: G fucking sucks. And Derek Carr has been one of 891 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 1: the biggest disappointments given what they've paid him so far 892 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 1: this season. But if you told me over the second 893 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: half of the season, arem I betting on Derek or 894 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: my betting on Baker? I'd probably still bet on Derek. 895 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: With AMP gone, any place to check out live reactions 896 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 1: after primetime games, I don't think we have a place 897 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,240 Speaker 1: to do a live reaction, but the YouTube I record 898 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: the podcast slash YouTube right after Monday Night Football, Sunday 899 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: Night Football or not Sunday Night Football. I do with 900 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,240 Speaker 1: Colin after the afternoon games and then Thursday Night football. 901 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: All the primetime games besides Sunday Night Football, so it 902 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 1: could just be Monday night and Thursday night. We put 903 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 1: on YouTube right away. Pats fan here is Jonathan Vilma 904 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,879 Speaker 1: friggin nuts. He said on live TV that mac Jones 905 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: shouldn't have thrown a pass that hit TikTok Boy right 906 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: in the hands. Screw this sorry team. They ruined mac 907 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: Jones after his rookie year. You can't expect a guy 908 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: who obviously needs help around him to succeed when you're 909 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: highest paid wide receiver is TikTok Boy. At this point, 910 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: I hope we keep losing so we can get Kayleb Williams, 911 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: preferably Drake May and hopefully mac Jones is able to 912 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,959 Speaker 1: find a landing spot because I love the kid. He's 913 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: just not gonna be able to succeed with less talent. Well, 914 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you about mac Jones. The only 915 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: chance he has to be a serviceable player like to 916 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: be his ceiling would be somewhere like sixteen seventeen eighteen 917 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: in the league is have really good talent around him, 918 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: and obviously they don't. And TikTok boy, that's a good nickname. 919 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: TikTok boy. My girlfriend calls Zach Wilson karate kid because 920 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: he wears the bandana, So TikTok boy karate kid. I'm 921 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: always a sucker for a good nickname. I spend an 922 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 1: abundance of time listening to you with my boyfriend. He 923 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: loves you. And his birthday is in March. Happy birthday. Well, 924 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: I guess that's not near. He is turning thirty. Hope 925 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 1: to do something special. Do you have cameo? I do 926 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: not have cameo. I just I'm not opposed to it. 927 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 1: If you told me that I could make, you know, 928 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,840 Speaker 1: would I do it for a couple hundred dollars? Probably not. 929 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: But if I could make I don't know, several thousand 930 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,320 Speaker 1: a month, yeah, I probably would do it. Maybe I could, 931 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 1: but I just it's not something I've ever thought of. 932 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,280 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll give him shot out. Shim me another DM 933 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: around his around his birthday and we'll give him a 934 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 1: shot out. But no cameo at the time. I know 935 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: Al has been mailing it in, but this week was awesome. 936 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 1: He basically said, I don't give a fuck and roasted 937 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 1: the rest of the entire game. Respect him for that? 938 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: Or what serious football question? How did everyone miss on 939 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 1: will he is one thousand percent better than Kenny Pickett? Well, 940 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: he got mead heead vibes. I think that was a 941 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 1: big knock on him. Did he loved the weight room? 942 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: And I think quarterbacks like no one cares how much 943 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: you lift or how big your fucking muscles are. You 944 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,800 Speaker 1: get paid to throw touchdowns. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Roethlisberger, 945 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 1: Drew Brees. I mean, none of these guys were, you know, 946 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 1: looking like some superstar with his shirt off. No one cares, 947 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: and I think that is a knock. I remember hearing 948 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: the year Clowney the Texans were thinking about drafting Blake Bortles. 949 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien spent time with him and thought he was 950 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: just a major meathead and didn't like him, and they 951 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: ended up not taking him. They took Clowney and said, now, 952 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: if you could redo that, you probably would have taken 953 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,879 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack. But regardless, anytime you get the meadhead vibe 954 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: with a quarterback, part of being a quarterback, like think 955 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: about Jalen Hurts, for example, A huge part of his 956 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,359 Speaker 1: story right with the way we talk about him as 957 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: a player, is how strong he is. It's like he 958 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:51,320 Speaker 1: squats six hundred pounds, you can't stop the brotherly shove, 959 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 1: push push, But no one ever thinks of him like, oh, 960 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: he just lives in the weight room. We talk about 961 00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 1: him like a quarterback because all the quarterback stuff is 962 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: what everyone raves about him. And when you get labeled 963 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,800 Speaker 1: a meathead, which is fine, like Nick Boast is a meathead. 964 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: Your other positions, no one cares. They you want them 965 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 1: to lift a lot, right, And honestly, some guys I've 966 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 1: heard stories about, like Trent Williams, like, ain't a big lifter, 967 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 1: and then when the weight coach will get on him, 968 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 1: he'll like, put like seven hundred pounds on the bench press, 969 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: do a rep? You like, do you really want me 970 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 1: to fucking do this? God gave me this natural strength. 971 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm not a big weight room guy. Some people don't 972 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,360 Speaker 1: need it. Both quarterbacks like I want you in the 973 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: film room. Obviously you need to lift, But sometimes I 974 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: think that knock on him. I don't think the interviews 975 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 1: went well. I also love a good story. I kind 976 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 1: of butchered that Trent Williams story, but with like an 977 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: all time great talent that doesn't like the weight room, 978 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 1: and like a young ambitious strength coach will get on 979 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 1: them and it'll piss them off, and they'll eventually just 980 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,280 Speaker 1: go to the squad rack. They're like, what's the team record, 981 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 1: And they'll look up and they'll put on like an 982 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,360 Speaker 1: extra thirty pounds and they'll rep it with ease, and 983 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: they'll just squat it and walk into the cafeteria like, 984 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 1: shut up, don't talk to me. I don't need to lift, right. 985 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like I can't get enough of those. 986 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 1: And I've heard it several times with different players over 987 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: the years, and it always makes me smile. Even though 988 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: I'm older than your demographic I'm sixty one, I enjoy 989 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: the informative and fast paced nature of your show. You 990 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 1: mentioned about Al Davis not allowing his son Mark to 991 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 1: fly on the same plane after games. Perhaps it was 992 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 1: due to Al being worried about the planes crashing and 993 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,840 Speaker 1: wiping out both him and his son. After the same time, 994 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 1: my former father in law didn't particularly care to fly 995 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 1: places with his wife and kids on the same plane. 996 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: Either rich people look at differently as you also stayed 997 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: on the pot. I hear what you're saying, and I 998 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 1: obviously that exists, that concept. That is not what was 999 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 1: going on here, you know. And in fairness, I witnessed 1000 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,359 Speaker 1: an argument one time and this ultimately led to Greg 1001 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: Papa being fired from the Raiders because he was adamant 1002 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 1: that when Mark Davis interviewed Mike Shanahan that it was 1003 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 1: a great disrespect to his father, Al Davis, whose mortal 1004 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,839 Speaker 1: enemy was Mike Shanahan. They like suit each other over 1005 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 1: back pay. They hated each other one time. I think 1006 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan had Steve Young throw a ball and hit 1007 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 1: Al in the head when he was playing for the 1008 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 1: when Mike Shanahan was the offensive coordinator for the forty 1009 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 1: nine ers in like ninety four. I mean, they hated 1010 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 1: each other. And Bill Romanowski and Rod Woodson were there. 1011 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. It used to be we used 1012 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 1: to call it the Football Hour, and it was used 1013 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 1: to do pretty good ratings. And it would be like me, 1014 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 1: Rod Woodson, Romanowski, John Lund, Greg Papa and it was 1015 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 1: just nerding out on football. And they got into this 1016 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 1: legit argument and Mark Davis happened to be listening, and 1017 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,359 Speaker 1: it really pissed him off because Greg, who was very 1018 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 1: very close with Al, was basically talking like he was 1019 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,359 Speaker 1: an assistant owner on the team as well, like this 1020 00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 1: isn't allowed, and it led to their uh sippar and 1021 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: then breaking up is like, you know, Greg had been 1022 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:04,959 Speaker 1: I think it was the highest paid play by play 1023 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 1: guy in the in the NFL, and he was just 1024 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 1: a staple of the organization and Mark fired him and 1025 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 1: it all started. I mean a big part of it 1026 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: was that conversation and they were screaming at each other. 1027 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: Romanowski who loves the Shanahans and Mike Shanahan and Greg 1028 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 1: who didn't, who likes the Shanahans but just didn't think 1029 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: he should be allowed to coach the Raiders because of 1030 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: Al Davis's hatred toward him. And Romanowski had a great point. 1031 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: He's like everyone was Al's enemy. Like Al didn't have 1032 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 1: that many friends. I didn't get along with that many people. 1033 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,400 Speaker 1: Al created a lot of enemies. And part of it, 1034 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,800 Speaker 1: like Al's personality and that that level of guy. 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And I think 1045 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: a big part of it was him and Mark. You know, 1046 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 1: I just weren't that close. It was not and I 1047 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,840 Speaker 1: don't even know. As you get older, you realize, like 1048 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,919 Speaker 1: what is a normal relationship. There is no perfect relationship 1049 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 1: that there is no like what you see on Instagram 1050 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 1: ain't real life. We all got issues, we all got problems. 1051 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: There is no perfect way to parent, There is no 1052 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 1: perfect way to be a husband, you know, there's no 1053 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 1: perfect way to do anything. 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He definitely looked good the other day, 1080 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 1: and I saw Jonathan Allen say he should be the 1081 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 1: quarterback of the future, which, listen, that's what teammates say, 1082 00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 1: but that's one of your best players saying that. I 1083 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 1: don't think he's wrong. I think Sam Howell is pretty talented. 1084 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 1: I think a lot like Baker Mayfield. This version we've 1085 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 1: see in right now, he's proven, like he's he should 1086 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 1: be in the league a while now. Is he truly 1087 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 1: a high end starting quarterback, because that's kind of where 1088 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 1: you get. Is this a guy that I want to 1089 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 1: be my starting quarterback for several years or is he 1090 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: a guy that's like the best backup in the league 1091 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 1: That to me is like, I don't know, hard to 1092 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 1: judge him. This year leads the league in sacks, Definitely 1093 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,440 Speaker 1: has a good arm, Definitely is a pretty good playmaker. 1094 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 1: I would say a lot of positives. I wouldn't put 1095 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 1: the guy in the Pro ball, but I definitely wouldn't 1096 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: put the guy in the fucking outhouse either. I think 1097 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 1: he's earning an NFL career for a long time now 1098 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 1: a guy like him, You know, depending on how the 1099 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 1: season goes, do you guys draft a quarterback. I don't 1100 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 1: know if he's good enough. If a new coach comes in, 1101 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 1: then he's you're definitely not drafting a quarterback. But he's 1102 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 1: definitely good enough where other teams would be very very 1103 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 1: interested in him, Like he's better than Heineke. And like 1104 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: I said, I like Heinekee, he still kind of do. 1105 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,320 Speaker 1: So I don't really know what to say beside like 1106 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: it's gone better than people that probably bet against it 1107 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: going would have said. But I would say it hasn't 1108 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 1: been seamless. I remember the Eagle game, he had a 1109 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 1: bad pick. But listen, picks happened. Mahomest throws bad picks. 1110 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 1: It's it's football. It's hard. I would say I'm positive 1111 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 1: on the guy. Definitely positive on the guy. Would want 1112 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 1: him on my team, ideally as a backup, because you 1113 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 1: would want a better quarterback. Any chance the Niners can 1114 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: fire Wilkes midseason if they don't improve fast, No, they 1115 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: don't have anyone else problems sometimes with firing. Why you 1116 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 1: know why coaches I think don't get fired midseason is 1117 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 1: because you don't have anyone else to try out. That's 1118 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 1: why a lot of head coaches, even maybe an owner 1119 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 1: by now knows he's gonna fire the guy. Like with 1120 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 1: Mark Davis. The reason it was pretty easy for him 1121 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 1: not to just let the season go by and then 1122 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 1: fire Josh McDaniels because I think he wanted to give 1123 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce a try out. If Antonio Pierce didn't exist 1124 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 1: and they didn't have a guy. I don't think he 1125 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 1: does it. I just think he lets it play out 1126 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 1: the season and then fires Josh after the season. I 1127 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 1: think a lot of those players were telling him, I 1128 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 1: think Antonio Pierce is the best coach we have on 1129 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 1: the staff. I think that's why he did it. But 1130 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 1: if you don't have that guy, either as a head 1131 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,760 Speaker 1: coach or as like an assistant for your coordinator, it's 1132 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 1: hard to make a change. If Josh McDaniels ends back 1133 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 1: up in New England, I'm going to find a new 1134 00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: team to root for. It's over for Belichick all his guys. 1135 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Robert Kraft gives you the Patriots tomorrow, assuming a top 1136 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 1: five pick, what do you do with the shit show? 1137 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,840 Speaker 1: I guess it's not a shit show. You can't win forever, 1138 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 1: But what would you do? Totally agree. If Belichick were 1139 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 1: to survive and he brings back Josh McDaniels, it's like, 1140 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 1: what are we doing? It's just the same shit over 1141 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 1: and over and over again. It's no different Josh. What 1142 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 1: did Josh do when he needed a quarterback? He went 1143 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 1: and got Jimmy Garoppolo, who was hurt and not playing 1144 01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,120 Speaker 1: very well. He couldn't have done anything else. He couldn't 1145 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 1: have like traded up and gotten Anthony Richardson. He couldn't 1146 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 1: have done just something different. But they can't. They can 1147 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 1: only do one thing. This would be crazy because I'm 1148 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 1: not from Boston and my first move would be firing 1149 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Ideally we would mutually depart or just go 1150 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 1: our separate ways, or hell, I would even trade him 1151 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 1: for like a seventh round pick so he could keep 1152 01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 1: making his enormous salary to the Washington Commanders other team. 1153 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 1: I ideally wouldn't want to fire him, but Bill Belichick 1154 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't be my coach anymore. Just be time. It's time. 1155 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 1: It's the way life works that this is not like 1156 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:16,960 Speaker 1: other aspects of our lives. Right, coaching, you have a 1157 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,920 Speaker 1: finite amount of time where you get to be your best. 1158 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,439 Speaker 1: It does not last forever, and Belichick's run lasted way 1159 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 1: longer than anyone would have imagined. When Tom left, like 1160 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 1: kind of over, he got a couple of years more 1161 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 1: than that to see what he could do without him. 1162 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 1: It's not going well. He's now over seventy, he's single. 1163 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 1: Just go do something else, or if you want to coach, 1164 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 1: I'll trade you to another team for a seventh round pick. 1165 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna ask for anything. I'll let you 1166 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 1: go so I don't even quote unquote have to fire you, 1167 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,960 Speaker 1: because I would not want to fire him because of 1168 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 1: what he's meant to that franchise and always will mean, 1169 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 1: because if you are a Patriot fan, and if you're 1170 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 1: definitely if you're my age, so you get to live 1171 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 1: through all the sweet moments. Bill played a huge role 1172 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 1: with Tom. The trick plays the situational football, the coaching advantages, 1173 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 1: like a huge point of difference for that franchise was coaching, 1174 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 1: and he was the head coach. Obviously Tom was the 1175 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, the trigger behind it all. But Bill played 1176 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 1: a very very large role now part of the pie 1177 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 1: between the two of them. Tom might have been sixty five, 1178 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,400 Speaker 1: Bill thirty five. But you couldn't plug anyone else in 1179 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 1: there with Tom and expect the same results. You know, 1180 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 1: maybe Andy Reid or some other coaches. But if I 1181 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 1: just gave you Josh McDaniels or Matt Patricia or Brian Flores, 1182 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 1: just all of his other assistants over the last decade, 1183 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 1: I'll promise you this. You do not win three Super Bowls. 1184 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 1: No fucking way. You don't win three super Bowls even 1185 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 1: with Tom Brady and you went to other super Bowls. 1186 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 1: Remember you lost to the Eagles. So I hate I 1187 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,160 Speaker 1: feel like we end up just talking so much crap 1188 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:59,400 Speaker 1: about Bill, and I think it's a little unfair. Okay, 1189 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 1: done that, So I would get rid of Bill. Pretty crazy. 1190 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 1: I think when Jerry Jones took over the Cowboys he 1191 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:10,920 Speaker 1: fired Tom Landry. So crazy things happen. Audios, everybody, have 1192 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 1: a great day. Talk to you soon. So yep, the 1193 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 1: volume