WEBVTT - Jayden Daniels is COOKING, Rookie Training Camp Check-In | Ticket to the Draft Podcast | Washington Commanders 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:03.519 On today's episode of Tickel the Draft Podcast, we talked 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.040 about what does it mean to be impressive as a 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:09.040 rookie at training camp? Lots of good insight there, what 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:12.680 positions are the most interesting competition, what's making us raise 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:15.239 our eyebrows? Man like the rock? We gotta find out 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:16.680 and what does it mean? What do we want to 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.840 see from a joint practice and our first preseason game. 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:27.200 That all starts right now. Welcome to Ticket to the 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:30.760 Draft Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with jes the Guy Jason, 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:36.400 and we had our first day in pads. Jason incredibly exciting. 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:40.800 Super exciting. I love football and so being out here 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.880 at training camp. The pads are on. London Fletcher was 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:44.839 here today. 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:46.320 Getting me juice. Get juice. Now. 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.880 So he starts, what you notice his posture changes. 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:51.240 It's like he's an awsome. 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:51.640 A little different. 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:52.080 Yeah. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.840 Yeah, and you can see him too. 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.120 Fans, fans, We're going to see him Command Center live. 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:01.080 One of the things that I love about watching training 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:02.600 camp is I get to walk up next to you 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:04.480 and ask you, Hey, what are they doing out here? 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:06.240 I get to talk to London Fletcher, Hey, what is 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.640 this drill mean? How are we implementing this? I get 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:09.720 to ask Fred. 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:14.800 Well, but he's always good for a life, He's always. 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.160 Good for a laugh, right, But there are you guys 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:20.320 are so insightful about what we're actually seeing and how 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:24.720 it applies to football evaluation for this team that we said, 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:26.400 you know what, let's set up a camera at training 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:28.600 camp show the field. Have you guys commentated? 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:29.000 Yeah? 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:30.880 No, absolutely, And that's what we do and we do 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:32.880 it live. So if you can't make it out here 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:35.959 to training camp as a fan, which you definitely should 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.679 try to. The atmosphere is electric. But if you can't, 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:43.520 our YouTube Facebook on x we are live from training 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.400 camp and get to watch you guys commentate what's going on. 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:47.560 Get to watch Jade and Daniels. 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.400 Yeah, it's been awesome. Again, just kind of like a 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.520 little peek behind the curt here to see how detail 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.920 oriented this staff has been, how the individual drills have gone, 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.800 like the things they're focusing, the things they're coaching. It 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.360 just it just it feels everything feel so exciting and new, 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.600 and you know, we want to share that with you 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:04.720 guys to make sure you check that out. 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.799 There is a different vibe, right, that's what the kids 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.720 say these days, the vibe, there's a different aura, a 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.239 different vibe. There is something about the urgency of practice. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.640 There's just there's something, there's something in the air, and 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:21.720 it's it feels great. When you're out here, you'll feel 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:25.000 it and hopefully it comes across on Command Center Live 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.200 as well. But Logan, I wanted to ask you a 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.920 question because we were talking about rookies here, right, So 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.040 with the vibe, with the aura, with the energy, how 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:34.680 do you stand out as a rookie? What does it 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:38.080 mean to be impressive as a rookie at training camp? 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:38.800 Because you did this? 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.480 Yeah, yeah, you have to stand out here rookie here. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:43.800 So how did you do that? And how are you 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:45.880 looking at rookies out there on the field today and 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:46.720 saying like, oh. 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.000 All right, you got a chance here and we're yeah. 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:50.680 So I think the thing that I'm looking for with 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:54.040 rookies is are they consistent? I think that's the number 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.240 one thing is are they consistent? Do they come out, 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.200 are they out here early? Are they staying a little 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.880 bit later? Are they working their craft? Because that informs 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.760 a type of professionalism that I think is important to 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:08.280 this staff. Right. And then in conjunction with that, like, 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:09.920 you know, how do you handle the mental load, the 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:12.560 mental stress of each day. I think, Dan, this is 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:13.880 a little bit of a side is done a great 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:16.800 job of scheduling training camp to allow these guys to 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.480 be the most effective, which is awesome. But that's the 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.760 first thing. Can the coaches trust you and you show 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:23.480 that by taking what you learn in the classroom to 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.840 the field. And so we have a hard time telling 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.040 that exactly. But there are certain things right you know, 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:29.519 our coach is yelling at guys. Are you having to 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.080 get re lined up? Are they disappointed with how you 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:34.320 fit or communicated a certain play? All those things around 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.280 the table, And then I think the other thing is 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.040 you need to see a certain level of playmaking ability. 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.360 Like I go back to when I played in San 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.920 Francisco with George Kittle, and so George was hurt for 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:45.480 most of training camp and I'm like, this guy's a 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.520 fifth round pick. He's been hurt the whole time. There's 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.600 no way this dude makes the team. And the first 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:52.080 day comes out to practice, what does he do. He 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.800 mosses a safety for a touchdown. I was like, Okay, 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:58.600 that's pretty good. The next play's in pancakes the outside linebacker. 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.400 I was like, oh, that's pretty good. And then the 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.440 third play is in he catches a drag rout across 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:04.400 the middle field and runs eighty yards for a touchdown. 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.360 So I'm like, guys probably making the team, you know 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.120 what I'm saying, Guys probably making the team. So I 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.080 think like that level of playmaking is important, and handling 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.320 the mental and the mental nuance that comes with each 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:15.960 and every day. 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:18.240 Yeah, and I'm going to offer something that is not 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:22.920 based in anything. It's just words, but it's body lingk right, 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.120 Like you can't quantify that in any way. That's not 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:29.240 based in any analytics, and there is actually no football 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.240 IQ needed to see any of that. But it's how 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:35.040 are players handling stuff when they make a play? How 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.760 are they reacting when they don't make a play, How 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:41.280 are they reacting? How are coaches reacting? That doesn't necessarily 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.120 mean as a coach yelling at a guy, because sometimes 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:45.880 coaches yell at guys that are going to make the 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.520 team because they're trying to motivate them. At Gurgem everybody 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:50.359 responds differently to different type of coaching. 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:52.480 So but it is there. 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.479 Is something about, Okay, I didn't make this play, but 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.200 my head's up. I'm running back into the muddle. I'm 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.680 ready for the next one. Okay, here we go, right, 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.039 and I'm going to make the next play versus, oh no, 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.719 I didn't make the play. Head down, slunking over, walking 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:07.440 back slow, you know what I'm saying. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.479 Yeah, absolutely, And I think the other thing that comes 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.240 out is I was just thinking, not about the rookies, 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.360 but a couple of these young wide receivers and there's 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:16.240 a guy that's having hard time catching the football, but 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.159 there's also a guy who catches the ball every single 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.080 time it's thrown to him. And if you're at practice 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.640 and you're watching that, you'll get a feel for that. 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.200 Over the course of the day. It's like, Oh, this 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.600 guy is maybe not the most flashy guy, maybe he's 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.800 not being loud and crazy, but he's been consistent. And 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:32.880 I think if you're here and you're kind of keeping 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:37.240 track of people catching football's right, keep track of that 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.920 because that stuff is usually pretty indicative. I'll tell you, 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:41.839 i'ving been out here a couple of days of the 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:42.440 whole you. 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.360 Know, Yeah, and it skews all the noise if you 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.960 hear that over the mics. We are out here in 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.919 the heat at the at the practice. They're tightening up 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:52.280 the field. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.800 They're making it nice in that field over there, that 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.040 little turf field, they're digging that sucker up. You've got 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.599 to come out to practice and see all the new stuff. 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.320 It's new. They are building from the ground up here, 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:06.039 and that means the infrastructure as well. One more question 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:09.600 before we go. When we look at the practice, when 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:11.360 we watch a practice, when fans come out and see 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.919 training camp, we're only seeing twenty five percent of what's evaluated. 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:16.720 That's a number I made up. Maybe that's true, maybe 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:20.000 that isn't. But DQ talked about this in one of 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.760 his pressers. They come in, they have meetings, then they 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:25.560 go out, they try and implement what they had in 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.680 their meeting out in practice. Then they go back and 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.560 they review it, and then they install something else at 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:32.320 the end of the day, the next install and then 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.159 they come back the next day they look at that 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.120 insul then they go out and they practice it. So 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.760 practice out on the field, actually in pads moving around 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.200 is a very small percentage of what is going into 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.160 this team, and we are not seeing what a lot 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.599 of these rookies are doing off this field, So how 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:53.080 do we evaluate as fans, how are rookies doing versus 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:54.640 maybe inside the building. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:57.240 Yeah, I think that's a really good question. And I 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.640 think you know, Dan and today today is press conference 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:04.000 brought up the quarterback room, and that's obviously a room 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.880 a group that is very like mentally demanding, right, But 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:08.560 what he said is like, you know, the question was 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.360 regarding like how many guys are you going to keep, 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.280 you know, and Dan's like, you know, because Sam Hartman 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:15.360 hasn't begin a lot of throws. And Dan was like, 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.680 you know, well, the evaluation process for our guys is 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.680 more comprehensive than that. We want to know. We want 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.200 to see guys that are good in the room, that 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.600 can develop, that are put in the extra time. And 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.120 when you look at Sam Hartman in conjunction with those comments, 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.400 you say, he's a guy that's obviously doing a good 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.440 job in there. Because Dan made it an endpoint of 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.920 the meeting saying or in the press of the day saying, hey, 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:36.840 this is a guy that you know might not be 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.520 get a lot opportunities, but he's maximizing his opportunity in 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.760 the building, right, great. And then he's a guy that, 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.000 in conjunction with some other rookies, you stay in after 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.880 practice every single day to throw. So he's not getting 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.400 throws in practice, but he's making sure he's maximizing his time. 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:51.840 So if I'm looking at a guy that I think 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.240 could be developmental, he's done a great job in the 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.360 meetings with that stuff you just talked about. He's done 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.440 a great job in the field being a pro and 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:02.080 saying i might not begetting the reps in practice, but 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.880 I'm going to make sure I'm ready when my opportunity comes. 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:06.520 And we were talking about this the other day, like 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.400 when he's been in there for probably ten reps all 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:11.680 of training camp so far, and three of them have 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.520 been like big time throws, Like he's found open guys 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.680 down the field, and again he's working with the threes, 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:21.520 but maximizing your opportunity. So again, like Dan saying that 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.000 kind of revealing what's going on in there with him, 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:25.840 seeing him put that extra work out on the field, 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:31.080 that all kind of coalesces and orbits this idea that yes, 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.640 practice is important, but like how are you as a student, 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:35.440 how are you as a teammate, how are you as 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.360 a pro, and that a lot of that is revealed 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:38.800 in the media room, not on the practice field. 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.760 Yeah, Sam doesn't get a lot of throws in practice. 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.280 That doesn't mean he's not going to make this team. Yeah, 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.800 but they were running a two minute drill fifty yard 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:52.160 plus that's what it was. And he comes in, this 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:53.120 is his only series. 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:53.920 He's going to get it. 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:57.559 This first throw thirty yards down the sideline, beautiful, right, 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.240 just hey, I'm not going to get many opportunities. Let 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.560 it rip. And it was a perfect pass. And again, 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.880 that doesn't mean he's gonna make the team. It doesn't 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.240 mean he's not gonna make the team because he's not 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.520 getting those reps. There's a lot that goes into it. 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:11.959 But it is cool to see that, right, like to 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.520 see rookies when they get their number called, going out 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.880 there and making the play. So let's move on to 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.360 the notion of winning jobs, because that's what all these 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.800 rookies are trying to do. They're trying to win jobs. Now, 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.920 it is way too early for us to be saying 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.480 who's gonna make the team who isn't. That's not what 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:32.160 I mean by winning jobs. As a guy who's done, 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.120 who did this for attend years in the league of like, 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:36.719 I need to come out to camp and I need 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.839 to make sure that I am on this team. That's 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.000 what I mean. What are you looking for from that? 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.560 What these guys got to do? And what are you 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.559 seeing out at camp where it's like, Okay, these guys 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.959 are there's a competition here right there. They're going to 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:54.320 make it difficult because good teams cut good players, right, 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.640 and that's what we want here. We want good players 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.319 to be cut. Not necessarily we want them to be cut. 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.360 I don't personally you want that, but I want the competition, 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:04.600 the talent level to be so high here in Washington 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.160 you're gonna have to let somebody go that's a good player. 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.440 So what are some of the positions that you're seeing? Man, 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:14.040 there's some good competition here. It's gonna be tough, tough 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.400 sledding for coaches. I had with trying to figure out 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:17.200 who makes this team. 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.760 I think the number one spot probably is the defensive 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:23.080 back group. I think those guys have just been kind 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.560 of the next level, you know what I mean. In 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:29.840 terms of expectations. You mentioned Tyler Owens, like he's had 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.960 a great camp so far, but like does he make 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.840 the team, and so you know, it's just the competition 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:37.640 there is crazy. And what I'd say, what you need 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.880 to see from those guys is a level of consistency 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.400 and a certain level of playmaking ability. Right. So, because 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.000 we've been talking about Tyler Owens, to just sit on 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.360 him for a second, like you see him flash right 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.560 and again, that level of consistency day in and day out. 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.559 It's important. But in order for him to kind of 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.560 say I deserve to make this and take this and 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:58.280 this to be my job where I need to be 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:02.400 in this six man rotation of dimes, strong safety, free safety, 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:06.000 maybe a Buffalo Nickel type role. I started, I need 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.120 to start making more plays consistently. Right, So like today 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:09.760 with that Kasmaran thing, that ball's got to come out, 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:11.920 even though it's a great play, get that ball out right, 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.360 and then all of a sudden it's like, Okay, he's 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.560 playing big boy football. He moves with the twos, he's 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.120 getting more reps. And I think that that's ultimately what 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:22.000 you want to see. What you want to see in 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.400 terms of kind of differentiating yourself, it's making plays. It's 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:29.520 the consistency and the mental kind of grind, you know, 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.280 like when you're watching like Ben Sinnett, you know, like 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.400 they got him playing fullback, they got him playing tight end, 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.280 they got him playing a wing. He's playing in the slot. 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.880 Can he balance all those plates? And so far, so good, 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:40.480 And he hasn't really had a ton of mental mistakes 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.480 as far as I can tell. They're not barking at 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.360 Ben to get back in the huddle or he's misaligned, 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.480 like he's doing what he's supposed to do. So it's 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.839 the mental consistency. It's throwing in enough plays to kind 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:52.040 of show you belong and then not being afraid on 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.680 a day like today with the pads on of the physicality, 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:57.440 and I think all those things are kind of hard 0:11:57.440 --> 0:11:59.199 to evaluate and hard to juggle. Like I want to 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.320 talk about Mike Sam but I haven't. He hasn't stood 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:03.880 out to me. And that doesn't mean he's doing a 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.080 bad job, right because like when I've seen him, like 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.319 when they're doing punt return drills, I'm like, there's no 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.400 quicker human alive than him, right, Or when they're doing 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.280 dB runfit drills over with the defense and you're watching him, 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.400 you're like, man, like, look how quickly he's able to 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:17.920 fit that gap. I haven't seen him in team because 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:19.760 our angles all crazy are all off to the side, 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:21.520 So it's hard to kind of account for every position 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:24.120 because you're watching the offense some plays, you're watching the 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.120 defense some plays. I want to talk about him more 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.760 in terms of his ability to win a starting job. 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:30.360 I can say from what I've seen, he's done a 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.920 good job. But it's that's the that's the challenge for 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.400 us in terms of evaluating this is like we don't 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.319 get the play to play, the down to down kind 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.080 of look at these guys that the coaches do. 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.520 What are you seeing out there that's making you raise 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.880 an eyebrown? Oh okay, like not a negative play and 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.040 they're like, ah, like the rock right yeah, when like, yeah, 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.000 I smell what you're cooking there? Yeah, what are you 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:56.320 seeing out there where it's like you maybe didn't expect 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.679 this out of them, or like they're coming in here 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.320 and they're doing something that's a little unique to you 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.040 and it's like, oh man, that's exciting for this rookie. 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.880 Yeah, I think it's It kind of depends on the 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.599 position obviously, but obviously I got to start with like 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.520 kind of the big dog, the elephant of the room, 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.960 and that's Jadeen Daniels. You know, every time he's throwing 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.520 the football, he's got great touch on the ball, his feet, 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:22.800 his playmaking ability. We talked about that, the consistency. It 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.080 never feels like it's too big for him. Like all 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.200 those things we just talked about in terms of winning 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.120 the job. He does that. So you know, the every 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:31.920 day he's been pretty on it right. You know, there's 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.200 days that are a minuses, there's days that are c pluses, 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.560 but he's kind of right in that positive variance, which 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.040 you love to see. You see the physical talent, he 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:41.840 see his ability to make plays, and you see the 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.679 fact that despite all the speed and all the physicality, 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.320 he's not overly flustered. So he's a guy that to me, 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.120 every time he's out there, I'm not saying it's must 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:54.280 see TV, but he just consistently makes the right decision. 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:56.439 And I love when I see Cliff kind of putting 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:58.440 a little fairy dust on a play. We got a 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.560 little something going on shift different person or whatever it is, 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.720 and Jayden knows exactly what Cliff's trying to get out 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:06.440 of that and where the ball needs to go. And 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.840 I'm just like, that's a mature, competent football player. So 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:13.120 to me, that gives me a big eyebrow raise from 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:14.400 the rock, you know what I'm saying, Like that gets 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:15.240 me pretty excited. 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:19.080 So yeah, and I mean the millions and millions of 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:23.480 LSU fans, that's a rock reference. We're not wrong when 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.720 they said this guy has it, like we're starting to 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:29.320 see it here. And so you hear this sometimes when 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.400 you have a rookie come in. It's not just quarterbacks, 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.480 but yeah, it applies mostly to quarterbacks. Says, Oh, it 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:36.000 takes them a little bit, like you see, it takes 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:37.920 them a little bit get used to the speed. And 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.160 that may very well be true for Jaden, but it 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.840 doesn't look like it. He's out there with some veterans 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.400 that are on this team and he doesn't look like 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:50.240 he is processing any slower or moving any slower. And 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.520 for a rookie coming right in, that's exciting. I hope 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:56.479 that that stays through the joint practice and through preseason. 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.360 And obviously he is a rookie. There are going to 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:02.800 be growing pains, but you expect certain things in training 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.160 camp out of the gate with a rookie quarterback. You're 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.800 kind of ingrained to be like they're gonna it's gonna 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.760 take him a little bit. It just doesn't look like 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:11.800 it's taken him a little bit. It looks like he's 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.720 hit the ground running. Let's move on real quick. 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:15.880 Here. 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.840 Two joint practices, IDJ just reference the next time we 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.920 come on, we'll probably be after that first preseason game 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.000 against the New York Jets. So what would you want 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.360 to see in a joint practice? Why is a joint 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:31.920 practice for rookies It's more important than training camp a 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:35.440 regular training camp practice because everybody says, these joint practices, 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:39.000 that's where you get that's where you really get some evaluation. 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.800 And I'm really glad you brought that up, Jason, because 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.200 like the thing about joint practice is like think about 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:48.040 regular practice, is you've been working with the same guys, right, 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:51.640 same guys for all of Otier's, all of mini camp, 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.000 all of training camp, and as a former player, you 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.960 develop a feel for that guy. You understand what he 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.280 wants to do, he knows what you want to do, 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:05.280 and that hyper competitiveness is good for you, but it 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.640 also is comfortable because you're like, I know, this defense. 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.640 I know when he lines up like this, he's stunning 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.280 across my face. I know when he's tight like this, 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.880 he's doing it as a false read because he wants 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:18.280 me to step tight like I know that about him 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.240 as a person. And it's because you get so many 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.240 reps with the same guys, and so one of the 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.680 things we just talked about in terms of, you know, 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:26.880 like what does it take to win a position or 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:28.160 what do you want to see from a rookie? In 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.200 terms of that, what is the word I'm looking for 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.760 that consistency day in and day out. Is what happens 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.280 when we change the paradigm, right, what happens when we're 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.880 playing a different defense. Can you take what we've learned 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.560 in the classroom and apply it to the field. Can 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:42.400 you take what you've learned in the classroom and the 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.200 techniques we've learned over the last three months and apply 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.280 it to this new personnel? Or you know, does Brandon 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.400 Coleman go out there and lose his mind when he 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.560 sees you know, Hassan Reddick rushing the passer for example, 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:55.040 It's going to be stressful for him. It's going to 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.000 be a different personnel, But it does does he just 0:16:58.080 --> 0:16:59.760 kind of sit in and say I got this, I 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.440 be here, I belong or does he kind of panic 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.600 And you see a lot of rookies. You know, I 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.240 went through this in my first couple of joint practices 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.800 where you're like you get almost panicked because you're like, 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:10.880 I have to do something different, I have to try harder. 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.200 But it's like, no, you have to go the other way. 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.639 You have to kind of tighten it up, Tighten the screws, 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.679 tighten the technique, tighten the focus. And that's that's, to me, 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:19.840