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Speaker 1: looked at that stuff. And in fact, if you shoot

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Speaker 1: mid range shots with the rockets. I haven't been there,

428
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Speaker 1: but I heard you get called into the office. Let's

429
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Speaker 1: put these mid range shots to shoot. How would that

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Speaker 1: have played in your career? Coach, you were a shore,

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Speaker 1: you were a score How would that have played in

432
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Speaker 1: your career? When you look at the analytics and all

433
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Speaker 1: the information that you can get about guys you're facing

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Speaker 1: that night, and back then it was man to man

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Speaker 1: earon no zone. It was all man. Yeah, you had

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Speaker 1: guys that were going to cover you. How would analytics

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Speaker 1: have helped your game? Not as a coach, but as

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Speaker 1: a player. Well, you're absolutely Now here's the problem adjusting

439
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: the I played a couple of years with the three points. Yeah,

440
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: but our coach was not a big fan of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so he didn't we didn't practice it a lot, and

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00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: he didn't bought it because everybody's just getting used to it.

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Speaker 1: But my natural shot, I was a good out night shooter.

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Speaker 1: My natural shot was a straddle of the three point shot.

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00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: So I had to make an adjustment. And that's just

446
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Speaker 1: like two feet, right, and that that knocked down a

447
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: little bit. It's a big two feet and anything is.

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Speaker 1: And even though even when you look at the corner three,

449
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Speaker 1: which is like one of the most valuable shots in

450
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: the game, now you know it is it's that much closer.

451
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Speaker 1: And the other thing is you don't get the lucky

452
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: bounce that bounces back and goes in, and it's still

453
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Speaker 1: a higher percentage shot than the around the arc. What

454
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Speaker 1: is your appreciation of football? What kind of football fan

455
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Speaker 1: are you? Coach? Well, I I love I see Dante

456
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Speaker 1: and those guys. I love that team. I was a

457
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: big I love bubb Phillips, uh, big fan of that era.

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Speaker 1: But now then, when I called for a long time,

459
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: I didn't watch Sporting Advents okay, because it reminded me

460
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: of the job and I needed to get away from

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00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: the job. Because I did, I really did too much.

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Speaker 1: Looking back at it, I kept when I became the

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Speaker 1: head coach, I still remained an assistant coach in my head,

464
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Speaker 1: and I kept doing I had great assistance who would

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Speaker 1: do all that work, but I felt I had to

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Speaker 1: do it too because that was my comfort zone. Right, coach,

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Speaker 1: When you were when you were done with it, how

468
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Speaker 1: long did it take for you to let coaching kind

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Speaker 1: of get out of your system when you walked away

470
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Speaker 1: you were done or did you have kind of To

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, I'm still working on it. I

472
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Speaker 1: came back out of retirement and worked a little bit

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Speaker 1: with the Minnesota Timberwolves. And it was enjoyable but also

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Speaker 1: frustrating because I was, you know, I want to do

475
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: I want I didn't realize that was like a control

476
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Speaker 1: free but I don't, you know, I know what I know,

477
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: and and I want to see guys have success. And

478
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: but we're not always right. I wasn't right all the time. Right. Uh.

479
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: But they're doing good. They've done very well. They're in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs and they're one and one against a great

481
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: Memphis team. So yeah, interesting for them. Yeah, coach, thanks

482
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. We appreciate it's great to

483
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Speaker 1: see you here as always. All right, all right, Rudy

484
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Speaker 1: tom Janovitz joining us here. Houston Sports Awards really appreciate

485
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Speaker 1: the visit. Legendary Houston coach, two time NBA champion with

486
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Speaker 1: the Houston Rockets. I got here in ninety three. See

487
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: you're out at that championship and I'm telling you down

488
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Speaker 1: two oh, going to Phoenix. I'll never forget. I actually

489
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: was at Brown traveling, went to a bed and breakfast somewhere.

490
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: I was going to the Baseball Hall of Fame and

491
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Speaker 1: Game three. Pops on the screen and Vernon Maxwell goes

492
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Speaker 1: off and they win Game three, and I'm like, that's

493
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Speaker 1: not supposed to happen. This is weird, right the Houston

494
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 1: Houston things are supposed to happen, Like Phoenix is supposed

495
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Speaker 1: to put them out of their misery in the next

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Speaker 1: two games, and instead they win that game to make

497
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: it two one, and You're like, Noah, can they And

498
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: then they come all the way back and then win

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Speaker 1: the championship and it's I I mean, that was a

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Speaker 1: long time ago, and I just remember the feeling of

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Speaker 1: this town. I mean, if since the twenty seven team,

502
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Speaker 1: the Nashals are doing it, and I know one day

503
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Speaker 1: when we do it, it's gonna have that feeling ten times.

504
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be the sweetest thing ever. It'll be amazing.

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Speaker 1: And I and I think about Rudy a lot. I

506
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: thought he was the absolute perfect leader for that team

507
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: because they had alf fuzz and not all those and

508
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: those alf didn't always get along. Somehow he got them

509
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: to play cohesively all the time. Now, people listening to

510
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Speaker 1: what he said about eighty percent positive twenty percent corrections

511
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: might think, well, it's easy to say when you have

512
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Speaker 1: a large one but it wasn't like that team is

513
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: loaded with Hall of famers, right, and that is something

514
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: to take note of. This is a coach who won

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Speaker 1: two championships, once as a sixth seed right in the

516
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Speaker 1: second one. I know Drexler got there would effected the

517
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Speaker 1: seedings because he wasn't there the whole time. But listen,

518
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: that is phenomenal stuff right there. To win it back

519
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: to back to win it once. Anyway, we are here

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Speaker 1: at the Houston Sports Awards. We have other guests coming up,

521
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: maybe before the close of business because it's a little

522
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: tightened here right now. We'll see what we can get too.

523
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Speaker 1: But we'll certainly get to some football news coming your way.

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Speaker 1: Trade demand today involving a team on the west coast

525
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: of the Texans played last year. You know who I'm

526
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Speaker 1: talking about, and we'll talk about the picks because that's

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Speaker 1: what we do here on Texans or Radio. Chickson's Radio

528
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Speaker 1: continues in a moment, Chickson's Radio is back. Mark vandermir

529
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Speaker 1: John Harris with you live on the Wartham Center downtown.

530
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Speaker 1: Hughes did in Houston Sports Awards and having a good time,

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Speaker 1: caught up with Rudy tom Janovic, Johnny Deebo Samuel wants

532
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Speaker 1: a trade from the forty nine ers. And this has

533
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Speaker 1: definitely become a thing. It was already a thing, and

534
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: it continues to be a thing with guys wanting out

535
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: of their situation. And I know it's been a big

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Speaker 1: subject today on sports radio six tens talk shows, and

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Speaker 1: I get it. I think that when he was reported,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's tweeted this or you'll say,

539
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: you have to excuse me, that he was not interested

540
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Speaker 1: in doing a lot of the things the forty nine

541
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Speaker 1: ers wanted them to do on the field. He wants

542
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Speaker 1: to be more of a pure wide receiver. My question

543
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: is why you get so many touches you get the ball.

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Speaker 1: That's a big reason why people would want you in

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Speaker 1: a trade, I think. And I said this to clint

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Speaker 1: Ron earlier, because obviously that news was hitting about that time.

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Speaker 1: There was the report. I can't remember if it was

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00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: Pelistar who said it. Maybe WRAP report had said that

549
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: Debo's issue was just that he didn't want to be

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Speaker 1: that hybrid wide receiver running back role. And so when

551
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: I was talking to clint Ron, I don't think that

552
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: had broken yet, and I said, look, you gotta get

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Speaker 1: to the bottom of what it is that he's upset about.

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Speaker 1: Because if he's upset about the amount of runs that

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Speaker 1: he has, well that's why you want That's why you

556
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: would want him here, because he's that different from everybody else. Right.

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Speaker 1: But and I don't know if five debo, if Debo

558
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Speaker 1: could get to a point where it's not twelve to

559
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Speaker 1: fifteen runs and five seven receptions as opposed to eight

560
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: nine receptions and four five runs, that might be a

561
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: little bit better and a little bit easier to handle.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. Maybe if I can't understand because

563
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: they had him miked up for one of the games.

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00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: One of the games gets the rams. There was a

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00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: time where he was on the sidelines and he walks

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Speaker 1: over to Shanahan. He's like, give me the ball. I'm like,

567
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: well wait a second, like give me the ball. And

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Speaker 1: now you're saying you're getting get too much. The one

569
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Speaker 1: thing I think about, the one game I think about

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00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: is that Green Bay game in the divisual playoff round.

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Speaker 1: He got you know what beat out of him that

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Speaker 1: day because he got the ball because he was running

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Speaker 1: it and it's winning time and they're just giving him

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Speaker 1: the ball. NonStop, and so I can understand, Hey, look guys,

575
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Speaker 1: I can't My body can't take that. And then he

576
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: looks around and he sees all these other receivers getting

577
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: all this big money is like, forget that. I keep

578
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: running the ball. My career is two three years shorter.

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Speaker 1: Well there's that to think about as well, right, yeah,

580
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: because what do we always say about certain running backs.

581
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: Maybe he could be a receiver later in his career

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Speaker 1: and extend his career. McCaffrey, Well, you're going the wrong

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00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: and Arian Foster even that was brought up as a

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00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: possibility maybe from the outside, not the inside, but with him,

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00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: with Samuel, you gotta wonder what the demand is going

586
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: to be like because even though he's awesome, I hate

587
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: to word it like this, that he hasn't proven himself

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Speaker 1: as a traditional or standard type of wide receiver. And

589
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: again those are bad terms to use in this conversation,

590
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Speaker 1: but I just don't know what the market's going to be.

591
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: And it's funny how they threw out the Chiefs and everything. Well,

592
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: the Chiefs didn't want to pay Tyreek Hill, right, and

593
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: now they're gonna pay Debo. Yeah, Debo wants that kind

594
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: of money. I mean, he wants that huge receiver money,

595
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: so we'll see where it all goes. I mean, I'm

596
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Speaker 1: not so sure that it's a good idea to I mean,

597
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Speaker 1: I think it's a good idea for teams that are

598
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: in the hunt for receivers to explore the possibility. Sure,

599
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: but buy or beware on these things. I think what

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Speaker 1: got everybody's attention was Tim Kawakami, who writes for the

601
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Speaker 1: Athletic out in the Bay Area, and said the team

602
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Speaker 1: that we keep hearing is Houston. I think that's what

603
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: I got everybody like, wait, what did he just say? Houston?

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00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: And then you think, okay, is this some bloggers, some

605
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: just a guy that doesn't have a reputable side and

606
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: he's just throwing stuff against the wall. No, this is

607
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: Tim Kawakami. He's been writing there for over two decades

608
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Speaker 1: in the Bay Area. He's one of the most highly

609
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Speaker 1: respected writers there. And you're thinking he's mentioning Houston. Well,

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00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,479
Speaker 1: so if that is the stuff, is there something there?

611
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: It's just I don't know. It really was. I don't know.

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00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: It really it caught me off guard because I was like,

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Speaker 1: I know, I don't know, and then all of sudden

614
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: you see, Wait a second, there is this Kawakami says

615
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Speaker 1: they're interested. Could mean nothing. Kawakami could have gotten it

616
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: from three or four of the people and they're pulling

617
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Speaker 1: his light. Who knows. But if that's the case, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: One thing I like about this, I hope they're thinking

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Speaker 1: of using a receiver like Samuel As used right in

620
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: that mode, in that fashion. You know. It's funny because

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Speaker 1: I kind of look at A J. Brown like that

622
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: a little bit as well, and I just think it

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Speaker 1: hasn't happened yeah lately. Yeah, but I think he's the

624
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: kind of guy who can make plays like that happen.

625
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: So and by plays like that, I mean just getting

626
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: the ball and all sorts of different situations. Yeah, I

627
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: just want A J. Brown to go away, Yeah, because

628
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: I love him. I love him. I want him to

629
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: go away. I want him to go somewhere else and

630
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: he is not having to mess with us twice a year.

631
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Speaker 1: And that's the hardest part I think of all I

632
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: was facing that guy because I do. I'm with you.

633
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: I think A J. Brown could be used in that way.

634
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: They won't. They don't need they don't need to. They

635
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers only went to Deebo Samuel as

636
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: a running back because they needed him to do it.

637
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: They were down on running backs. All of them were dead.

638
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 1: Wilson was hurt, most Start was hurt, Mitchell was hurt,

639
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: and they needed to win a ball game. Deebo's like,

640
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: give me the rock, let's go, and so they ended

641
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: up doing that. So from that standpoint, Deebo as Debo really.

642
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel said it when he's down in Miami, He's like,

643
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: Debo didn't even know he was. But we didn't even

644
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: know he was Debot. Know all. It's funny because I was.

645
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: I was writing a piece Bill Warell's walking by. We're

646
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: gonna try. Oh we got it. Here are you doing?

647
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: Coming on with us? Right? Look at this? Look at this?

648
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: Do we have? Oh we have we have enough headsets

649
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: for everybody we do. Oh my god, this is gonna

650
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: be good. We have ladies and gentlemen here at the

651
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: Houston Sports Awards. We have Dante Damn Pastorini and also

652
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: being honored tonight, Bill Worrell. And this is great. This

653
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: is great to have you gentlemen with us. Thank you

654
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: so much, Bill, congratulations on tonight. Thank you. Yes, Johnny

655
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: and I were talking about you being honored earlier, and

656
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: it's such a fascinating, impactful career you've had in broadcasting

657
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: because working with the Rockets for so long and being

658
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: so associated with the University of Houston and also your

659
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: work with the Astros and everything else. It really is

660
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: so voluminous your impact on this city. How does it

661
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: make you feel to be honored like this, Well, it's

662
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: a dream come true for a guy from Houston. You

663
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: know when I when I started in Houston, well, I

664
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: was born in World War Two. During World War two,

665
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: my dad was in the service, So I've seen all

666
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: these changes the city's been able to make like down

667
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: through the years, and some of my most exciting moments

668
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: where were this guy right here? Because Dan brought to

669
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: Love You Blue era for the Houston Oilers, which was

670
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: one of the probably if not the number one. The

671
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: Rockets two championships back to back would be right there

672
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: with it. But just the amount of enthusiasm in Houston

673
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: and what Dan garnered that was an exciting time for

674
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: me too, because I did a few of their preseason

675
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: games for television, so I knew they were gonna have

676
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: a good team. Once they got Earl. I'll ask both

677
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: of you this. Both of you went through it, Dan

678
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: obviously playing Bill you were here and through that and

679
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: broadcasting for people that weren't here during that time, how

680
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: do you both explain to them that Europe? Well, for us,

681
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, it was legendary. I remember when Love You

682
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: Blue was born on a Monday night football and we

683
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: played Miami. I was the last one to be introduced,

684
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting in the tunnel and I hear all

685
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: these people and kind of looking out there and see

686
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of blue when I got to the

687
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: gate to come onto the field. I never saw so

688
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: much blue pom poms and placards in my life. And

689
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: these people were just going absolutely nuts. Plus it was

690
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: the best game on Monday night football that stood for

691
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: like twenty years or so, and it was just created then.

692
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: And people talk about the football itself, it was. It

693
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: was the fandom in the city and the support they

694
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: gave us that was important. I mean, people come up

695
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: to me today and thank me. I mean, guys your

696
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: age were kids, you know they were they're eight years old,

697
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: but you know, just to see those guys remember that

698
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: and the impact it had on their families, you know,

699
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: is gratifying to us, and I reassure them that you know,

700
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: y'all made it special for us too. Well. One thing

701
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: that blows by mind, Bill, and I know you remember

702
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: this is the astronaut being full after AFC Championship Game losses.

703
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: That is incredible to me. The kind of reception that

704
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: team got. Well, I was on the team bus where

705
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: he should have been, but he was riding with a

706
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: police officer on a motorcycle up in front of the bus.

707
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: Was that an audible bum didn't notice it until somebody

708
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: pointed it out. He says, that's my quarterback riding on

709
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: that motorcycle. And I said, well, what did you expect?

710
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: I mean, that's conte right. The thing. The thing about it,

711
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: though people don't realize the pack the stadium was packed

712
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: with people to the raptors. Yeah, but you couldn't find

713
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: a parking place all the way from the front door

714
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: of Intercontinent Airport down JF. Game Boulevard, the Beltway and

715
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: forty five. They were on the side of the road.

716
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: The whole city turned out, a whole seven hundred thousand

717
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: or whatever it was, turned out to see us. There

718
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: wasn't a car on the highway except our buses in

719
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: the limousine. That's right. It was unbelievable an era too,

720
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: because when you look at that and then look at

721
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: five Slam of jama following up shortly after, you look

722
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: at the Astros what they were able to do in

723
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty you look at it and I know it

724
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,959
Speaker 1: didn't go all the way, but also the Rockets making

725
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: the finals in eighty one, Yeah, that's pretty amazing stuff. Yeah.

726
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: The Rockets lost to Larry Bird and the Boston Celtics

727
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: twice in the eighties before they were able to get

728
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: back there in the nineties, and then the back to

729
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: back championships, and that's of course what I remember, because

730
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: I guess Dan there were seven hundred, eight hundred thousand

731
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: people downtown for the parade. Yeah, I mean, I can't

732
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: even tell you they were. They were fifteen sixteen deep

733
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: everywhere we went, hanging out of parking garage buildings, and

734
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: it was absolutely Where people don't understand about Houston is

735
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: if you bring them in some excitement and you bring

736
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: them a winner, and it's gonna be this way with

737
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: the Texans too coming up if they have some good

738
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: drafts this city will go gaga over them again, and

739
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: we'll be right back there again, Bill, as you are

740
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: celebrated tonight. He talked about the championships. Is that the

741
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: biggest thing that stands out to you when you look

742
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: back at your career and you think, man, there were

743
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 1: so many great moments, so many great people you're around.

744
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: What stands out more than anything else to you? I

745
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 1: don't know that the championships really mean a lot because

746
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: they're so hard to get. Dan, you know this. We

747
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, we went to UH one time, we went

748
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: to San Diego and Dan was trying to play. I

749
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: remember Donsis had that I had a ruptured groin in

750
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: sandel Or was that it okay? But anyway, it was

751
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: Fouts in that group. We didn't have her and we

752
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: didn't have Earl. We had Gifford trying to bootleg it

753
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: into the end zone and I could have caught him

754
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: if I'd have been you know. But anyway, make a

755
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: long story short, I ran into Vernon Perry out here

756
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: on the walkway. He had four interceptions in that game

757
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: against Fouts and we went on to the playoffs. Until

758
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: you could get healthy, well I wasn't really healthy. We

759
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: went to the next round. But if I could play it,

760
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: I said, I guess so, if you want me to

761
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: do it, out run good? No, no, not in a bit, Dan,

762
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: The draft is coming up for NFL players. It's been

763
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: while since you've been drafted. But it was different for

764
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: you back then. There was not this big Las Vegas showcase.

765
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: What was it draft like for you? What do you

766
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: remember about it? Well, we went out and party because

767
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: the night before, and we had a pretty good time.

768
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: And we were still drinking beer in the dormitory and

769
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: they had the Channel thirteen came out there, which is

770
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: a local ABC station, and I guess I was getting

771
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: drafted in the first round. We didn't know. And then

772
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I get a phone call from

773
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: Ed Hughes and he said, you know, he'd been drafted

774
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: by the Houston Oilers. Welcome to Houston. And that was it.

775
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: And then we did the interviews and as soon as

776
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: the TV people left, we drank some more beer. Were

777
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: you expecting Oilers as a possibility? No, you know, it

778
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: was eerie. When I came back from the Senior Bowl,

779
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: I stopped and changed planes in Houston, and I got

780
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: out and I looked out the windows and I said,

781
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: my god, this place is flat. Because I grew up

782
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: in California in the mountains, and the mountains they call

783
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: around here are little hills, you know, they're overpasses. But

784
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: I got used to it, and I've learned about the

785
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: hill country, and there are some nice places around Texas

786
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: that have different elevations. So Hey wanted the only quarterback

787
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: taking He was taking the first. Right. We took a

788
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: pretty good quarterback in the second, Lynn Dickey Dick. Yeah. Yeah.

789
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: They weren't sure about me, so Lynn was the insurance.

790
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: Then he winds up getting traded and go and go.

791
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: He had a terrible hip injury and nobody ever thought

792
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: he was gonna play again. But the guy's tough and

793
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: he wound up having a great career in Green Bay.

794
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: In Green Bay. Very well there, Well, gentlemen, thanks so

795
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: much for being with us. Bill, congratulations than congratulations, well deserved.

796
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: I enjoy listening to you all the time. With the Texans.

797
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: All right, thank you so much for you're saying they're

798
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: one of the great ones. Thank you very un or

799
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: two you are good. Thank you Judge over the air.

800
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: But you're you're a good friend. Do you guys are

801
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: just building him up and it's just canna get worse.

802
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: So when I used to host nine to eleven AM

803
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: on Sports Radio six ten, when I first got to

804
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: the market for two three years, yeah, I was alone.

805
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: I was new in the market, Johnny, and I'm alone.

806
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: So I met Dan Pastorini. He was I think doing

807
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 1: something with Insperity at the time, Texans Luxe member Insparity

808
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: and Dante. I had him on an hour a week

809
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: and we just talked football. That's many talk Texans. I

810
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: don't think it's all. Yeah, it was great. I had

811
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: Andre on an hour a week, I had Dante on

812
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: an hour a week, and I had Matt Bullard on

813
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: an hour a week before Matt Bullard was doing anything

814
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: really of significance with the Rockets other than having had

815
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: played for them. So I was filling the time with

816
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: those guys. I was like, let me get these experts

817
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: on kind of like basically what we're doing when I'm

818
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: doing with you every night, I get an expert on.

819
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: It makes life a lot easy. I used to go

820
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 1: on for an hour every Thursday with our friends John

821
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: and Lance. Yeah you did, and then you oh thank you? Remember? Yeah,

822
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: I remember. Sorry, I guess we're gonna wrap it up now.

823
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: But man, that could not have gone much better. We

824
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: had Rudy tom Janovich, we had Bill Wererell, don Dante Pastorini,

825
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: Hannah Storms walking by, and I gotta tell oh, and

826
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: that's her mom. Yeah, go ahead say this by. Yes

827
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: for those that can't, are you gonna tell this on

828
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: the air? Go ahead? Tell us on the air. She

829
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: was a good touch. Storms mother was my realtor, Hannah

830
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: Storm and uh, and it's so, I don't know if

831
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: Hannah Storm is Hannah Junior, but she basically is. Okay,

832
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: and name is with the name was changed to Storm

833
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: at some point and the rest is history. She's an

834
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 1: awesome broadcaster. I think she is phenomenal. I'm not gonna

835
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: say she's one of the best female broadcasters. She's one

836
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: of the best broadcasters period, great periods. Great man. Houston's

837
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: had some man holy smokes. Yeah, yeah, the Storm. Just

838
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: those two and you're pretty good. All right, that's gonna

839
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: do it. From the Houston Sports Awards, Matt has helped

840
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: us out a great deal. He is awesome and he's

841
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: gonna help us out of the draft next week at

842
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: mittle outdoor theater one week from tomorrow night. I cannot

843
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: wait the general tomorrow night at six to talk about

844
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: that as we will be a week in or a

845
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 1: week out from the NFL Draft Texans at picks three

846
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: and thirteen. In case you've been in a coma or something,

847
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: we will go over it everything tomorrow night. Thanks a

848
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: lot for listening, folks that has always go Texans. This

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