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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome back to the Spirit Daughter Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jill Winteresting aka Spirit Daughter, and today I am

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Speaker 1: talking with my friend and mentor, Natalie Ellis. She is

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Speaker 1: the founder of Boss Babe, the host of the Boss

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Speaker 1: Babe podcast, and she just released her book, The Freedom

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Speaker 1: Based Business Method. I can't wait for you to listen

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Speaker 1: to this one. We dive deep into her chart, which

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Speaker 1: explains her entire journey and everything that she presents to

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Speaker 1: the world. Welcome Natalie. All right, well, welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Spirit Daughter Podcast. I'm so excited to have you, Natalie,

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Speaker 1: to talk to you, to read your chart, to just

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Speaker 1: look into everything that makes you you from an astrological perspective.

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Speaker 2: I cannot wait for this. I'm so excited. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: having me. I'm just the biggest fan of your podcast since.

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Speaker 3: You've launched it. I'm loving, loving, loving the way doing it.

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Speaker 3: It's so unique.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, thank you so much. I'm so excited

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Speaker 1: to get into your chart before we do, though, like

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Speaker 1: how much you know about your chart? Have you had

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Speaker 1: readings before? Like? What do you know about your chart?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: A decent amount. I've had quite a few readings. I

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Speaker 2: love checking the coastal app. So what I've found really

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Speaker 2: interesting is seeing different placements in my chart and then

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Speaker 2: looking how different.

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Speaker 3: I am to my daughters.

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Speaker 2: Oh interested, that's where I'm at right now, very different,

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Speaker 2: which I'm sure is all by design. But yes, I

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Speaker 2: know a decent amount. But every single time I learned something.

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Speaker 1: New, yeah yeah, yeah, well we will get into it.

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Speaker 1: I know you. I know of your work if be'en

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Speaker 1: in your CEO Mama group, And when I looked at

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Speaker 1: your chart, I was like, wow, I really know her now,

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Speaker 1: and so much of it tracks with your journey, with

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Speaker 1: the stories you've told, even about your childhood, like it's

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Speaker 1: just all written right there, and I don't know, we

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Speaker 1: say that like sometimes I have to like dig a

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Speaker 1: little deeper, I have to ask some more questions. But

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Speaker 1: with you, it's like, oh wow, this is pretty crystal clear.

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Speaker 1: And even everything you're doing with even just you know,

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Speaker 1: your freedom based model, and you know even the book

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Speaker 1: coming out, which this podcast actually is launching on the

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Speaker 1: day that your book launches, and so congratulations on that.

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Speaker 2: You can we put out then and it's already a

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Speaker 2: best seller.

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Speaker 1: That would be amazing, it's already a best seller, it's

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Speaker 1: already out there in the world. But even just seeing

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Speaker 1: the way that you've structured your business and you've evolved

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Speaker 1: business not just for you but for other women, and

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Speaker 1: you've really gone out of the box in so many ways.

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Speaker 1: Like it's it's in your chart, it's right there, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, this this makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: So every time I get a reading, so one just goes, ah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this makes sense. Okay, good, I'm glad it makes sense

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Speaker 2: to someone.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's it's actually kind of refreshing in

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Speaker 1: to me, you're you're a young person. You know, you're

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Speaker 1: what a couple of years out of your sad in return,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it's I don't really see a lot

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Speaker 1: of people embodying their chart to this level at such

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Speaker 1: a young age, Like if I talk to somebody in

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Speaker 1: their fifties sixties, like it's like, yes, okay, they're embodying

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Speaker 1: all the placements of the chart. They've learned them. Because

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Speaker 1: I look at the chart as like, this is our

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Speaker 1: evolution this lifetime. This is like our roadmap, this is

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Speaker 1: we don't come in embodying all these energies, a lot

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Speaker 1: of them we have to learn, and with you, it's like,

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Speaker 1: oh wow, she's completed these lessons.

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Speaker 2: I have questions on that too. I'm excited to hear

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Speaker 2: you read it. And then I've came with a couple

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Speaker 2: of questions, two of things that have been pariculating in

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Speaker 2: my mind that I've always wondered about my child as

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Speaker 2: well as I'm.

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Speaker 1: Very okay, yeah, totally totally open. So big three. We

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Speaker 1: always talk about the Big three. You have your son

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Speaker 1: fully embodying their son. But at first degree, first degree

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Speaker 1: and the first degree, this is initiation. So you actually

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Speaker 1: And so this is the mark of a founder. Right,

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Speaker 1: So it's right there, like first placement. If I was

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Speaker 1: It's like who you are, and I think that they're

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Speaker 1: think there is this balance that you're finding between being

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Speaker 1: strong Capricorn energy that you carry. And we'll kind of

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Speaker 1: you're doing that. Even because you don't just have your

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Speaker 1: son in Capricorn, you also have your North Note, you

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Speaker 1: have Uranus, and you have Neptune, all in Capricorn in

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Speaker 1: your second house now. And so the second house is

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Speaker 1: where we see worth. It's where we see finances, it's

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Speaker 1: where we see the physical money, our possessions, but also

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Speaker 1: where we do see our self worth and how that

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Speaker 1: north note in Capricorn, this is your sole direction, right,

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Speaker 1: and in the second house, it's really about creating and

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Speaker 1: building financial sovereignty within your life, so standing within your own,

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Speaker 1: not depending on anybody else for finances, not depending on

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Speaker 1: I think you did that like before thirty.

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Speaker 2: That's also so nice to hear, because I don't know

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Speaker 3: Wound it because right now I feel like.

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Speaker 2: Sure I could I just suck it all in and

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Speaker 2: do have that option, and that's beautiful that you know

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Speaker 3: I just don't want to. I absolutely what I do.

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Speaker 2: And when I hear something like that, it does feel

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Speaker 2: very reaffirming. Because I am always in the like am

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Speaker 2: And it's always very reaffirming because it does feel so

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very core to youant with that Capricorn, my

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Speaker 1: guess is that you would never feel fulfilled just retiring it. Really,

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Speaker 1: cancer in your South note on the other and cancer

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Speaker 1: we're usually looking at like what you're releasing, but we're

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Speaker 1: giving up of your dreams for your child. Right, So

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Speaker 1: you're actually finding the balance on how do you stay

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Speaker 1: leans into your Sagittarius rising. You're here to like walk

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Speaker 1: How do we build bigger systems? Right? How do we

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Speaker 1: I just summed up your entire career, and probably your book.

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Speaker 2: The question I was coming to this with was that

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Speaker 2: I've not heard it read that as detailed as this before,

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Speaker 3: Of it at some point. But yeah, that's such a

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Speaker 2: Let me just like take on everything for everyone and

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Speaker 1: Myself exactly exactly. And so it's like you have to

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Speaker 2: I feel I when I think back to my childhood.

433
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 2: You know, I was brought up I'm the oldest of eight.

434
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 2: I was brought up in the northeast of England. We

435
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: had nothing. We had absolutely nothing, and you know, there

436
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: was people around me weren't doing big things. The concept

437
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: of having your own business wasn't a thing. No one

438
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,959
Speaker 2: had money, no one had anything, and it was so

439
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 2: interesting because from such a young age, I just kept thinking,

440
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 2: I don't belong here. I don't this isn't going to

441
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 2: be my life, Like I want to do something very

442
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: very different, and I have done something very different to

443
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 2: anyone in my family, and they often are like they

444
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: I don't think they could even swim up what I do.

445
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: And that's not because they don't want to understand. It's

446
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 3: just so different.

447
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: And I was always very academic and I felt like

448
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 2: I had to really hide that. I was like embarrassed

449
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 2: of it because it didn't fit with where I came from.

450
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 2: So that's just so fascinating. Like I think you're just

451
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: getting to the exact root of it.

452
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: Like that is so yeah.

453
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 3: And I think still carry and even.

454
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 2: Though I have built a life where I actually like

455
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm around people doing very very similar things, I still

456
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: often have that, oh my goodness, do I belong like

457
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 2: I still have I think have brought not with that,

458
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 2: So it still creeps in a lot, which is fascinating

459
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: because it's such a hard thing to shake. I was

460
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: even talking to my therapist about that yesterday. You know,

461
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: I was saying to her, you know, I'd love to

462
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 2: hit the New York Times list, but the feeling of it,

463
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: it's so interesting because if I don't hit it, there's

464
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: not a feeling of failure. And she was like, well,

465
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: then what is it? And I what I got to

466
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 2: was like, oh, maybe I just like don't belong or

467
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 2: like there's something there. And what I'm working on is

468
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 2: trying to get to the root of that so that

469
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 2: you know, whether we hit or don't, it's really it's

470
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: an editorial decision.

471
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: Like it's not something I have a lot of control over.

472
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: I want to get to a place where I don't

473
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 2: feel like, oh that means you're not good enough it

474
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: you don't belong here. It doesn't mean anything about that.

475
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: It's just you got selected or you didn't. But I

476
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: feel like you said, it's like the deep wound thing. Yeah,

477
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: it's just fascinating.

478
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have a deep wound around belonging. And there

479
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: might even be like I'll challenge you even further with

480
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: that example. There might even be a part of you

481
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: that says, well, if I hit the New York Times list,

482
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: do I belong And not just do I belong on

483
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: the list, but do I belong like with my family

484
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: or with like all the people who I identify with

485
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: who don't even care or you know, would never even

486
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: hit the list, like they wouldn't even have the chance.

487
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: And so there's a deep wound around belonging with you.

488
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: And like I said, stepping into that full version that

489
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: takes up that Matt, like Leo wants to take up

490
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: space like they want to expand they want to be seen,

491
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: they want to lead, right, And so there's a part

492
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: of you that once all of that and people feel it,

493
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 1: like even when you're just you know, on the screen,

494
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: people feel it when you walk in a room. Obviously

495
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: they feel it. They're magnetized by you. You carry charisma,

496
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: you carry the mark of a leader within your emotional core.

497
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: It's there. And and because it's in the eighth house,

498
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: people are like, wow, she's a leader who can transform me.

499
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: So I think that's served you so well in the

500
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: work you do, because when you lead a masterclass or

501
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: you lead a workshop, like the women who are taking

502
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: it are like, wow, she can lead me, and she

503
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,959
Speaker 1: can transform my business, she can transform my life. Like

504
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: it goes really really deep. But there's a part of

505
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: you that is like do I belong? Do I belong

506
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: on this stage? Do I belong? Here? Do I belong?

507
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: Leading these people? Do I belong? Transforming these people? You

508
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: can do it, and you do it super well. And

509
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 1: that Capricorn ambition is going to keep you going no

510
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: matter what. So it's not like you're going to stop

511
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: anytime soon with all that Capricorn. But there is something

512
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: to heal. And the good news is Jupiter enters Leo

513
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: at the end of June, and as Jupiter works its

514
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: way through Leo over the next year, and so we're

515
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: looking at the rest of twenty twenty six and then

516
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: into the first half of twenty twenty seven. But this

517
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: will happen really the rest of twenty twenty six. Jupiter

518
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: is the planet of expansion, and it will touch on

519
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 1: your chiron in Leo, and it will touch on your

520
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: moon as well in Leo, and it will expand you

521
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: and it might even expand the wound a bit for

522
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: the sake of healing. And so you have you have

523
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: a really great, possibly intense healing journey coming up for

524
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: the rest of twenty twenty six, where this wound of

525
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: belonging and taking up space and feeling like you own

526
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: the right to stand on stage and lead people and

527
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: yourself through transformation. There is a healing opportunity happening with

528
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: Jupiter transiting Leo for you, and you'll start feeling that

529
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: probably by the end of the summer.

530
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: Oh don't you just love it when someone tells you

531
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 2: you've got a healing opportunity coming away?

532
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 3: Like long, really more?

533
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: I know, like are we done yet? It's like those

534
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: memes where like people are like ordering things, you know, like, hey, Universe, like,

535
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: I'm not ordering the healing this year, okay. And with heling,

536
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.

537
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 3: Break, let me just be on heeled, let me be

538
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: in my shit.

539
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: But Jupiter and Jupiter is like a really fun, light,

540
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: expansive energy. So like if your Ranis was touching on

541
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: these points in your chart to be like, oh girl,

542
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: like we need to we need to prep you for this.

543
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: But Jupiter, it shouldn't be like that harsh. It should

544
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: just be like, oh, wow, this opportunity is in front

545
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: of me. I'm seeing it. How can I expand through it?

546
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: How can I like find the silver lining here? How

547
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: can I find the higher meaning? It should be illuminating

548
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: and it is your eighth house, so it will go deep,

549
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: but it's it's gonna be. It's gonna be there, so

550
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: you might as well take it and see about. You know,

551
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: how can you expand even bigger? And Jupiter rules your

552
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: chart and so you'll definitely feel it when it hits

553
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: your chiron and hits your moon because you have sag rising.

554
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: So Jupiter is the ruler of your chart. But it

555
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: might press on you to go even bigger and to

556
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: be seen and visible in an even bigger way. And

557
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: last I heard you were you were kind of doing

558
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: less in the spotlight, but that might come up for review.

559
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: With this transit of Jupiter pressing on your chiron and

560
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: your moon, it's going to say, okay, like, do you

561
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: have a ted talk in you? That kind of thing?

562
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: Okay, ready, I'll bubble up for this one.

563
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: And then it becomes like a journey of like because

564
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: your Capricorn ambition will be like yeah, of course, like,

565
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: and you've got your Mars and Sage, which we haven't

566
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: talked about, but that margin sage is like you always

567
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: bet on yourself. You know, you're wired to bet on yourself.

568
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: You've got mar, Mars and Sage in your first house.

569
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: So it's like you're going to say yes even when

570
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: you're not sure how you're going to figure it out. Right,

571
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: the Mars is that warrior energy. You're like, Okay, I'm

572
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: going to do this, I'm going to expand I'm going

573
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: to take the leap. I'll figure it out along the

574
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: way down. So you'll say yes to some kind of

575
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: opportunity like that, but the point will be to feel

576
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: like you actually belong there. So I'm just using like

577
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: Ted Talk as an example, but like if an opportunity

578
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: comes up to do a Ted Talk and your Mars

579
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: and your Capricorn and you're satirizing, you're like, yeah, let's

580
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: do it, let's take the leap. You know, then that

581
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,239
Speaker 1: Moon and Chiron are going to go, Okay, do we

582
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: feel like we actually belong on this stage? Like how

583
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: can we feel like we belong on the stage? How

584
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: can I feel like I still belong with where I

585
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: came from and like the people I love? You know,

586
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: So it will become a journey of belonging, even if

587
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: it's like the best career move in the world, and

588
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: even if these other parts of you are like hell yeah,

589
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: are doing that? You know, it will become a journey

590
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: of healing the belonging wound.

591
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: Okay I like that. Yeah, yeah, that's so spot on,

592
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: so nailing every single time.

593
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. But the sag rising is also

594
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: amazing for you because when you do walk into a room,

595
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: people feel that like sage is just so expansive. And

596
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: so you walk into a room and people are just like, Okay, wow,

597
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: she can think big, like she can see the bigger picture.

598
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 1: And you do. You're like, Okay, how can we dream bigger?

599
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: How can we build bigger systems? How can I expand here?

600
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: Right?

601
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: You're an expander. I'm sure you've heard that from so

602
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: many people or they meet you and they're like wow,

603
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: Like I just feel expanded in your presence because that's

604
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: what you bring through that sag rising is you are

605
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: a true expander. Right, everybody who you meet, your community,

606
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: you expand in the best way possible, and you expand

607
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: them to think bigger. You expand them to think outside

608
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: the box. You expand them to say like, oh yeah,

609
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: you can you know, launch a million dollar course and

610
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: only work twenty hours a week, right, So span them

611
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: to like challenge some of these paradigms that society has

612
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: placed upon us. Right, You're here to kind of break

613
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: that mold because that you're honest, and then that Sagittarius

614
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: is just going to expand you and expand everybody you meet.

615
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: I love that.

616
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that serves you really well. Like I said,

617
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: like all these pieces of your chart, I'm like, do

618
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: I just know her really well? Or like she just

619
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: embodied all of these.

620
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: I mean it explains a lot. I do think that

621
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: feels really accurate. I do feel that.

622
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. But you have and it's interesting because you have

623
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: the sag rizing and you have all this Capricorn, and

624
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: you have your Mars and your Mercury and saj which

625
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: give you expansive words and drive. Like your Mercury and

626
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: Sage is why you built a big community, and that's

627
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: why like your words resonate with so many people, and

628
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: even like your Instagram following your podcast falls under this

629
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: Mercury and Sagittarius, right, So you have a way of

630
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: communicating that broadcasts, right, that's Sagittarius that reaches you know,

631
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: across borders. That's global, right, And so that SAD gives

632
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,719
Speaker 1: you like a global residence with so many and really

633
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: an expansive community. And then we look at your twelfth house,

634
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: and I think I thought this part of your house

635
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: was really really interesting. Of your chart where you have

636
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: your venus and your pluto conjunct a twenty one degree,

637
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: so they're right next to each other, right on top

638
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: of each other in your twelve house. Twelve house is

639
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: where we see like spirituality. This is the final house.

640
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: It's normally ruled by Pisces. So this is like universal

641
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: downloads and mysticism and meditation are all in the twelve house. Right.

642
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: Endings like life endings, that kind of thing, you know, cycles,

643
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: completion of cycles. And you have your Pluto, which is

644
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: the plan of transformation, and your venus, which is how

645
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: you love what you find beautiful, but also how you

646
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: attract things, how you manifest things, how you materialize things,

647
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: and how people are attracted to you. And so I

648
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: think this is really interesting because this brings up this

649
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: really deep spiritual part of you, right that does have

650
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: that ability to transform others and that people can sense

651
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: right away. Right, so people like are magnetized to you, right,

652
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,479
Speaker 1: they feel that again going back to that, like oh wow,

653
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: they're like, she can transform me. She can transform my life.

654
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: She understands, and so the work you do isn't just

655
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: about like systems and courses. It's actually energetic, and so

656
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: you're actually affecting people. Everybody you work with, everybody who

657
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: takes a course from you, you're actually affecting them on

658
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: an energetic level through an energetic field, not just through

659
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: your words, not just through your messages. Those two and

660
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: you know everything you put out, but there's there's an

661
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: energetic tone to this which I found just like really

662
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: really fascinating, where it's like, Okay, it's like, yes, you're

663
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: a brilliant business woman, Yes you have amazing courses, Yes

664
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: you wrote an amazing book, And there's this energetic piece

665
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: that is the foundation of all of it. And so

666
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: people feel your work even before they read it, even

667
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: before they listen to you. They feel it in their

668
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: energy and they're like, yes, she can transform me. And

669
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: she has the ability right to attract everything that you

670
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: need and then you can pass on to other people. Right,

671
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: So that Venus and Pluto gives you that power to

672
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: attract the energy you need to transform your life, to

673
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: understand it, to integrate it, because that's what we do

674
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: in the twelve house and then give that to other people.

675
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: So it's like you really do like walk your talk

676
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: and people feel that on an energetic level. And now

677
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: a quick word from our wonderful sponsors.

678
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Speaker 3: That's fascinating.

679
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: So what does that mean when when it comes to

680
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: like a manifestation practice or something like Because I feel

681
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: like that kind of thing really works for me. So

682
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 2: I'm curious how that's all linked, because this part's fascinating

683
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: to me.

684
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: I found this part. When I saw this in your chart,

685
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: it was like, oh wow, that's like really cool that

686
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: you have this. And yeah, so for you, like Venus

687
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: is one of the planets that rules how you manifest,

688
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: So you manifest actually privately in the twelfth house, and

689
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: you manifest through like journeys, solo journeys that and this

690
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: kind of ties into your nourishment and your self care.

691
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 1: And so if we're looking back to that self node

692
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: in cancer in the eighth and I'm saying to you, Okay,

693
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: your medicine is more nourishment and more self care. And

694
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: then I'm looking over at your twelfth and I'm saying, okay,

695
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: that's also how you manifest as well. And so for you,

696
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: you your manifestation is going to be through very deep

697
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: private experiences. So like just off the top of my head,

698
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: like a wellness retreat, you know, but like the kind

699
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: of wellness retreat where you like, you go really deep

700
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: on an energetic level, you know, like a shaman's journey almost,

701
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, like go to Peru for a while, that

702
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: kind of yeah, you know, yeah, go out to the

703
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: desert and shosh re tree, you know, and you can

704
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, have maybe a couple of people around you

705
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: for support. But it's really about like going within. I

706
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: like to call the twelve house like the cave house,

707
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: and that's where we go deep within ourselves. And so

708
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: with you with Puto Conjunct venus for you, for manifestation,

709
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: it's about going within and transforming your energy from the

710
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: inside out and then you can manifest and call in

711
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: everything you need. But it's really about I don't want

712
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: to say isolating, but going on so journeys with you,

713
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: maybe some support people, but just you going deep within

714
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 1: and then that actually amplifies your energy and it strengthens

715
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: that energetic field that is the matrix that you're holding

716
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: your entire community in.

717
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: That makes a lot of sense to me.

718
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: And I also feel like I'm not I don't get

719
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: a lot of ideas and I don't feel very like

720
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 2: I don't feel like I manifest a lot of ideas

721
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: when I'm around a lot of people. Yeah, so that

722
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: really resonates with me, Like I'll come up with the

723
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: best stuff completely on my own, like so introverted, and

724
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: then I can bring it to the like extravit side.

725
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: But that makes a lot of sense.

726
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So going within and if you ever feel

727
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: like stuck or stagnant or you new new ideas, it's

728
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: like go, you know, spend a week in Joshua Tree

729
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: by yourself, you know, and do some like go deep,

730
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: like do have apost in or retreat, you know, do

731
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: something on like that level where it's it's not like

732
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: you're just going and like staying at a luxury I

733
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: love staying at luxury hotels, but it's not like you're

734
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: just going staying in a luxury hotel in Hawaii or something.

735
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: I mean, do that too, but you know, for when

736
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: you want to really like transform your energy, when you

737
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: want to up level your manifestation, you know, when you

738
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: want to like change the energetic tone of not just you,

739
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: but your business. It's like these solo journeys are going

740
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: to be really really important to you, and they're going

741
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: to also nourish you on a soul level, which will

742
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: take care of that like self note and cancer, you know,

743
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: wounds that we were talking about earlier.

744
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.

745
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: I feel like this podcast is very much permission giving,

746
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: like actually take care of myself.

747
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: Yes, actually take care of yourself. Take care of yourself well,

748
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: because the world needs you, you know, with all this Capricorn,

749
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: I mean, the world really needs you. And you have

750
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: your Jupiter up here in Virgo, in the ninth house.

751
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: Your Jupiter is where I really look to people to

752
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: see like their highest potential. And the ninth house, I

753
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: mean you're a teacher, and you're not just like a

754
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: local teacher. You're a broadcaster and so you know everything

755
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: you do in the educational space, your courses, your book

756
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: like all of that belongs in your ninth house. I mean,

757
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: ninth house is the house of publishing, right, and you

758
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: have your Jupiter there and so this is your potential,

759
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: right the way you educate people through this very Virgo lens,

760
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: which is systems, right. Virgo is all about systems, and

761
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: so You're here to really educate people in a very

762
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: expansive way on systems in both their life and their business.

763
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: And so this is your highest potential in your chart.

764
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: And like I said, Jupiter rules your chart. So this

765
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: is driving, this is the driving engine of your entire life.

766
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: But in order to reach that potential, you need to

767
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 1: take care of yourself on an energetic, emotional, and fundamental level.

768
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: And that's going to include healing this belonging wound. That's

769
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: going to mean taking time for yourself. That's going to

770
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: mean really balancing your work and your family and you right,

771
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: making sure because we often talk as mothers like oh

772
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: I have to balance like my kids and my work

773
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: and like where is me and all that. You know,

774
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: there's kind of like a third arm, and then there's

775
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: a fourth arm that's the partnership, right, So it's really

776
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: like a balancing those four points. That is the is

777
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: the real journey. But in order you know, to reach

778
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: this like highest potential of your chart, which is creating

779
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: expansive systems that break the mold, you know, for your

780
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: community in a large, large way, right that you broadcast everywhere,

781
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: you need to take care of your foundation.

782
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: That makes so much sense. And I also just love

783
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: how you're summing it up as systems as well, because

784
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: that I feel like that actually is at the core

785
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: of what I share. Especially when you come out of

786
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: a burn up period like I then see a lot

787
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: of the systems to stop it happening again and up

788
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: level them, and so that makes a lot of sense.

789
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're an expander of systems. It's really interesting.

790
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: And then you have your Saturn in Aquarius down here

791
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: in your second house. So again we're back in the

792
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: house of worth, of finances, of abundance, and with Saturn,

793
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: that's your commitment, right, that's your like soul contract in

794
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 1: this lifetime. This is where you feel responsible. In Aquarius,

795
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: you're responsible to shaking things up in the world of finances,

796
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 1: in the world of even self worth, in helping people

797
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: like understand different viewpoints and different perspectives of their financial systems.

798
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: And so it's really interesting to see like Saturn here.

799
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: There's also you know, I know, and we talked a

800
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: little about this. I know you're doing a lot with

801
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: Ai and when I saw the Saturn in Aquarius in

802
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: the second and Pluto is like pressing right on this

803
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: right now, because Pluto is inaquarius. Pluto's the planet of transformation,

804
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: So it's right on your Saturn in Aquarius right now.

805
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, that's why she's so an ai.

806
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: Oh do you have that too, I don't know. My

807
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: saturn is not an aquarius. I have some other things

808
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: in my chart that actually like lean into that. But

809
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: for you, it's like you have and you have this

810
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: responsibility to not only create systems and scale them and

811
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: teach them to other people. Right, that's that Jupiter, and

812
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: you've got this Capricorn and this Uranus and this Neptune

813
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: so you can see the bigger picture. You're like, I

814
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: see the future and now I'm going to teach it

815
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: to you. You have this responsibility, you have this commitment.

816
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: I like, your soul is committed to helping people evolve,

817
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: helping people think outside the box, helping people create businesses

818
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: that they've never thought about before that shake everything up.

819
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: That like societal paradigms tell us should be this, and

820
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: should be that, and should be that. Like there's a

821
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: deep soul commitment there.

822
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this just feels so accurate me. I

823
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 3: love this so much.

824
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's really like I said. When I looked

825
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: at your chart, I was like, Okay, she's embodied.

826
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, I'm glad. I'm very glad. I feel

827
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: like I need to sit and study the recording of this.

828
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 2: Like there's so much in this that some of it

829
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: I've embodied, some of it I feel like really work

830
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: in toowards, but to hear it all crystallized is just

831
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: giving me so many aha moments.

832
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think it's you know, I

833
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: think the Jupiter transit coming is gonna be really healing

834
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: for you. I think that's just going to bring so

835
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: much to you and it will really just help you.

836
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 1: Like I said, Jupiter is a major player in your chart,

837
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: and so Jupiter transitating Leo for you, it's gonna be

838
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a healing time. It's going to actually

839
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: up level you, and it's going to bring you deeper

840
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: into your own Jupiter and the potential there, which is

841
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: to teach and and there's a healing aspect with that

842
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: Jupiter as well, that Jupiter and Virgo Virgo. Yes, it's systems,

843
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: but it's also healing, and so part of your journey

844
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: is to actually help heal your community. And I don't

845
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 1: know if you've thought about it that way, but yes,

846
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: you're teaching funnels, and yes you're teaching you know now

847
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: AI and yes you're teaching systems, and yes you know

848
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: you're teaching a freedom based business. But there's also a

849
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: healing component in that. And as somebody who's like been

850
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: in your courses, it's like you said, this podcast is

851
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: a permission slip, Like I think a lot of the

852
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: work you do is not just a permission slip to

853
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: women in business, but also healing. Like it's also a

854
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: very healing experience where you're like, oh wow, I can

855
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: have it all, Like I've been taught that I had

856
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: to like give this up if I wanted this, or

857
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: I had to do this if I wanted that. It's

858
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: like it's very healing, and so there's a potential to

859
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: be a great healer in your chart as well. Well.

860
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 3: Thank you for saying that. That is a really nice

861
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: way of hearing it.

862
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think also with that Pluto and Venus

863
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: in your twelve house, that's also a mark of a

864
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: healer because twelve house, like I said, it goes, it

865
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: goes deep. Twelve house goes deep, so you go into

866
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: the cave and you're healing yourself and you're going to

867
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: help heal others too, and maybe it'll come back and

868
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: circle around to the wound around belonging and you know,

869
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: healing women who don't feel like they belong in a space.

870
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: But there's definitely a healing aspect in your chart that

871
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: I think you'll grow into. You know, like I said,

872
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: you're still like you're still compared to me, Like I

873
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: look at you, I'm like, oh my gosh, Like the

874
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: amount that you've done in your life at your age

875
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: is so so impressive. But you know, I think you're

876
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: you will grow into this kind of more healing, more

877
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: spiritual part of yourself and it will infuse everything you

878
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: do in a really amazing way.

879
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: I just got chills when you said so much of

880
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: that as well, about the belonging and like being able

881
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: to create that other that space for other women, Like

882
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: I definitely have felt that, like I always want to

883
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: create spaces why women feel like they very much belong

884
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: and feel like, okay, these are my people.

885
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 3: That makes somewhat of sense to me.

886
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think ultimately the belonging wound,

887
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: we always once we heal the wound of Chiron, and

888
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: we can actually heal that in others. So we become

889
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: Chiron's the wounded healer. And so the healing is your medicine,

890
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: and then it's the medicine that you can give to

891
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: other people. And so I think you are here really

892
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: ultimately to help others feel like they belong. They belong

893
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: in their ambition, they belong in the room, they belong

894
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: sitting at the table. You know, they're not impostures, like

895
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: helping people get over imposture syndrome. They belong, you know,

896
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: in financial sovereignty. Like we talked about that in the beginning.

897
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: Like there's so many women even now in twenty twenty six,

898
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: don't feel like they can own their financial power, right,

899
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: they just give it away because we've been ingrained for

900
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: how many years and so much lineage and you know,

901
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: work here on giving away our finances or handing over

902
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 1: the control and the power of our finances to somebody else.

903
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: And so I think you're you're here really ultimately to

904
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: teach women that they belong in all that they belong

905
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: in the room, right, they belong holding millions of dollars,

906
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: they belong, you know, leading a community as you are,

907
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: but it starts with you, and so I think Jupiter

908
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: is going to help you coming up with your chiro

909
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: on journey. And I really just see that, like I

910
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: see that already in the work you do, and I

911
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: see that even becoming a larger arena for you, I hope.

912
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 1: So we'll be right back after a quick break. Yeah,

913
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: thank you.

914
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll keep you posted. You said, around the end

915
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: of summer, I'll.

916
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: Be like, Jill, what did what did we manifest?

917
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: On?

918
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: Look?

919
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 3: What's happening?

920
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna call me from your cave and Joshua Tree, I.

921
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: Know I want mushrooms that I'm having a badion.

922
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: There you go. That's twelve hot. That's Pluto in the

923
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: twelfth house right there in Scorpio by the way, So

924
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: because Scorpio goes even deeper, and so you've got you

925
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: got Pluto and Venus in Scorpio in your twelfth house.

926
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, okay.

927
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: That's interesting.

928
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: I do feel like I have that like deep almost

929
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 2: like witchy pot to me too. So that's really interesting

930
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: to hear that, because I do feel it.

931
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: That's the deep witchy part right. The score wherever Scorpio

932
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: in your chart is is like the deep witchy part,

933
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: and it's your twelfth house, which is the house of spirituality,

934
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: and you've got your venus, how you attract things, how

935
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: you manifest, and your pluto how you transform right next

936
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: to each other and so yes, and if you want

937
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: to manifest anything in your life, it's like through the

938
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: energetic channels.

939
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 3: That's such a good reminder of me because I think

940
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 3: it's so easy to forget that.

941
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: Hmm yeah, yeah, play that part, back, play that part.

942
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to mean, I'm going to study this

943
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: entire recording and create a life from it.

944
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: The way you read charts is so good too. It's

945
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 3: so different.

946
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: You read it through such an interesting lens, probably because

947
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: you're living the ambition, motherhood, all of that yourself. To

948
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: everything you're saying, I'm like, oh my god, she's like

949
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: getting to the core of my soul.

950
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I've been reading charts for like thirty years,

951
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: so I love it. And it's you know, it's a

952
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: language and so I speak it. But I've heard that

953
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: before and the Leo and me is like, yeah, I'm

954
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 1: really great at reading charts.

955
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 3: You are, I know you are. You're very, very, very

956
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 3: very good at it. You do it in a very

957
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 3: different way.

958
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: Like, like I said, I've had my chot read of

959
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: multiple times, but not to this depth.

960
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: M hmm. Yeah, I think are in there. And I

961
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: like to look at it as like this is your

962
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: opportunity to grow, this is your growth edge, This is

963
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: what I see coming those types of things, because I

964
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: feel like it really is like our evolution this lifetime,

965
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: Like this is the roadmap that our soul chose on

966
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: an energetic level to help us evolve. And so your

967
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: soul was like, Okay, I'm gonna choose all this Capricorn

968
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: energy to help me evolve. Yeah, but it is fascinating. Yeah,

969
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: do you have any Do you have any questions? And

970
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: I answer the questions that you had coming in.

971
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 3: I think so. Yeah.

972
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 2: My My big thing is just like I do feel

973
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: like my North and South are.

974
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 3: At such odds with each other. M hmm, Like how

975
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 3: do I not be so at odds in that?

976
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I think that a lot of

977
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: that is taking care of yourself, right, giving yourself, like

978
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: thinking of you know, because we're really looking at like balancing,

979
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: it's a life work. Balance is the Capricorn cancer access

980
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: and so the highest expression of it is saying I

981
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: can have it all, Like I really can have it all,

982
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: and I don't have to kill myself doing that, my

983
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: figuring that out, because that's that other piece that I

984
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: find that not just people with cancer and Capricorn placements,

985
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: but all women fall into like, yes, I can have

986
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: it all, and I'm going to work myself to death

987
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: until I do it. Yeah, And so that's not work

988
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: life balance, just for the record. And so I think

989
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:39,959
Speaker 1: it's really kind of understanding that balance between being a mother,

990
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: letting go of the mom guilt, knowing that you have ambition,

991
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: like you have things that you want to do that

992
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,919
Speaker 1: serve who you are, and when you serve who you are,

993
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: you're serving your children as well, and you're serving your

994
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: partner as well. And so like, you know, I don't

995
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: show up for every school event. I mean, I try

996
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: and hit most of them, you know, but I also

997
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: know that like if I'm at like a book event,

998
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: or I'm doing something that is really important to me

999
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: and why I'm here that's going to help my kids

1000
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: more than me, like showing up for like a teacher

1001
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: breakfast or something, you know, that kind of thing. And

1002
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, I have found and I'm just kind of

1003
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: giving this advice because I know you have young kids

1004
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: when they get into like elementary school, there's like more

1005
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: and more and more to do always. But I found

1006
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: like leaning on the women who do show up as

1007
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 1: room parents who do like this week, for instance, is

1008
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: like teacher appreciation week, and there was like a captain

1009
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: for every day, and the captain took charge on like

1010
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: getting the gift for the day for you know, every

1011
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: day was something like self care day, like this day

1012
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: that day, and I just kind of like sat back

1013
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: and I sent them my money, you know. They each

1014
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: ask for like a certain amount of donation, and I

1015
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: was just like, yes, these captains, these these women are

1016
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: they're raising their hand, they have them with they're showing

1017
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: up to do this. I don't have the bandwidth to

1018
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: do this this week. Maybe another week, but definitely not

1019
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: this week for me. And I'm okay with that. Like

1020
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. I'm okay with like letting other

1021
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: moms lead where they can, you know, and I'm not

1022
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: the one doing it, you know. And so I think

1023
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: that's just like one example of how to work with

1024
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: this capricorn cancer. I don't want to call it a conflict.

1025
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: It's just an access of energy where it almost feels

1026
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,760
Speaker 1: like a seesaw, right that you have to like find

1027
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: the balance in. And a lot of it is just

1028
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: recognizing where you need to put yourself first, your work first,

1029
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: your actual like your self care, right, So distinguishing the

1030
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: two because a lot of times as mothers, we put

1031
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: our work first, and we're like, well, I'm putting myself first,

1032
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: and like, no, you're putting your work first, Like yeah,

1033
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: that's different, right, And then like understanding that you know,

1034
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 1: when you serve yourself, you serve you serve your children

1035
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: as well, and you know your kids like they need you,

1036
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: your mother, But they also ultimately chose you, right, they

1037
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 1: chose They knew who you were even before you conceived them.

1038
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: They chose you on an energetic level, and so they

1039
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: knew who you were, they knew what you did, They

1040
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: knew that you had all this ambition, so they knew

1041
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: what they were getting themselves into.

1042
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: Now that's true. That's sorry, that's a really good reframe.

1043
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: I do believe that.

1044
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what you don't want is to end up

1045
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: feeling like you're sacrificing like your life path for your

1046
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: kids because that nobody wants that part, right, Nobody wants

1047
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: the resentment that happens in motherhood when we like give

1048
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: up a piece of ourselves in order to show up

1049
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: for our kids. You want to fill your own cup.

1050
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: You want to have boundaries on everything, right, and so

1051
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: the cancer Capricorn is also a lot about boundaries. So

1052
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: you need to have boundaries on your work. You need

1053
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: to have Like I was just having a conversation with

1054
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: my producer and you know, I don't work on the weekends.

1055
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: So the podcast team is like slacking me on the weekends,

1056
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: Like I'm not going to see it like until Monday,

1057
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: and you know, it's my boundary. And so I believe

1058
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: in like when we set a real boundary, the other

1059
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: person doesn't have to do anything. So if the podcast

1060
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: team needs to message me on a Saturday Sunday, they're

1061
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: welcome to message me all they want. It's up to

1062
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: me to hold the boundary and not look at slack

1063
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: for the weekend, you know. And he asked me, He's like, Okay,

1064
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: so you don't work on the weekends. I'm like, yeah,

1065
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: I have kids, Like I can't work on the weekends.

1066
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: Like it's it's basically impossible, Like I've got a three

1067
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: and a six year old boy, Like I can't work

1068
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: on the weekends even if I wanted to, you know, yeah,

1069
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: but I have the boundary and I just don't open

1070
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: up my slack on the weekends. You know, it's a

1071
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: boundary I have. People can message me, you know, but

1072
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: it's a boundary. And I also have a boundary with

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Speaker 1: my kids too, you know, like I have we go

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Speaker 1: out every Wednesday night. You know, my husband and I

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Speaker 1: have Wednesday night date night, Like that's what works for

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Speaker 1: us with our schedule. And my kids will be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: please down, oh, you know, and like they have a

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Speaker 1: wonderful nanny who's there every Wednesday and takes amazing care

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Speaker 1: of them and puts them down every Wednesday. But it's

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Speaker 1: my boundary and I'm like, no, you know, mom and

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Speaker 1: Papa go out every Wednesday night, Like that makes us

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Speaker 1: better parents for you. Like they're old enough now I

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Speaker 1: can even tell them that. So it's like even having

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Speaker 1: the boundaries in your schedule for date nights. You know, systems.

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Speaker 1: You're a system person, like set up see these boundaries

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Speaker 1: as systems, right, So systems of boundaries with your team,

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Speaker 1: with your kids with your partner, you know, all of that,

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Speaker 1: and that I think can help you really work with

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Speaker 1: this Capricorn cancer.

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Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense because it's so easy

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Speaker 2: to see it all blended and that's why things get

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Speaker 2: really tricky. So that makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 3: That's really helpful. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then just watch the Overgiving like that's the

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Speaker 1: shadow sign of that south Lone and cancer. And you

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Speaker 1: know again like contracts or boundaries. That's why I kind

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Speaker 1: of made the joke like I hope you have a

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Speaker 1: good lawyer. Have good lawyers, Like have contracts. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is eighth house, this is other people's money, Like

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Speaker 1: any kind of investment you take. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you take investment, but like any kind of business partnership,

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Speaker 1: like watch the Overgiving there, like have the boundary, have

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Speaker 1: the contract.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an important one for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Crystal Clear, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm listening. I'm listening. This was really really really really

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Speaker 3: fun and helpful. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh good, I'm so happy you came on. It was

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Speaker 1: so fun to read your chart. I was like I

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Speaker 1: read it and I was just like, wow, this is

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Speaker 1: this is really cool, so so good.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you for coming on. Congratulations in your book,

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Speaker 1: tell everybody where to find you, where to find your book,

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Speaker 1: all the things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can find my book anyway that you buy books.

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Speaker 2: It's called the Freedom Based Business Method. And I am

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Speaker 2: on Instagram at I am Natalie the Old Boss Wavee.

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Speaker 1: Donk Yes, and we will have all the resources and

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Speaker 1: links in the show notes. And it's been such a

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Speaker 1: pleasure to have you on and connect with you and

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Speaker 1: talk to you about your chart. And congratulations on embodying

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Speaker 1: your chart because this has been wonderful to see and

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Speaker 1: transmit to you. Thank you, Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: listening today. I hope this episode spark something within you,

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Speaker 1: maybe a new way of seeing yourself, or a question

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Speaker 1: where it's sitting with, or maybe it just helped you

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Speaker 1: remember your power. And if this episode resonated, I'd love

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Speaker 1: for weekly astro insights and behind the scenes moments, and

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Speaker 1: if you want to dive even deeper. Show notes and

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Speaker 1: resources are available at spiritdaughter dot com. Until next time,

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Speaker 1: trust your timing, trust yourself, honor your path, and remember

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Speaker 1: the stars don't dictate your future, they illuminate it. See

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Speaker 1: you soon,