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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, an infamous child killer, a

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Speaker 1: slumber party child killer who blindfolded a group of little

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Speaker 1: girls about age twelve, drags one out and strangles for dead.

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Speaker 1: Set to walk free over my cold dead body. I'm

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being

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Speaker 1: with us.

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Speaker 2: This man succeeded in what he was trying to do,

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Speaker 2: which was pierced my son through the heart and fierce

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Speaker 2: the rest of the family. It was just plain despicable

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Speaker 2: and it shows the kind of people who child molesters are.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it does, and I am referring specifically to a

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Speaker 1: child killer, Richard Alan Davis, sentenced to death in the

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Speaker 1: brutal murder of a beautiful twelve year old little girl,

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Speaker 1: Polly Class.

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Speaker 3: Listen, he broke.

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Speaker 4: The contract for that he must die. And mister Davis,

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Speaker 4: when you get to where you're going, say hello to Hitler,

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Speaker 4: say hello to Dahmer, and say hello to Bundy, and

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Speaker 4: good riddance.

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Speaker 5: And the sooner you get there, the better are we

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Speaker 5: all are.

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Speaker 3: Truer words were never spoken.

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Speaker 1: But since that time, when he got an chewing technical

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Speaker 1: legal term in court by Polly's father, Mark Class, he

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Speaker 1: has been given three hots and a cot. Ever since

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Speaker 1: in the last days we learn he Richard Alan Davis,

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Speaker 1: the killer of poly Class, could walk free, joining me

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Speaker 1: in All Star panel to make sense of what we

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Speaker 1: are learning. But first I want to go to my

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Speaker 1: longtime friend and colleague, Mark Class. You hear me talk

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Speaker 1: about him often in completely unrelated cases because I compare

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Speaker 1: every parent, every loved one, whether it's a mother, a dad,

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Speaker 1: a grandma, a grandpa, an uncle, a boyfriend, a husband,

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Speaker 1: a wife, I compare them to Mark Class. Because when

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Speaker 1: Polly went missing, bam bam bam bam bam on.

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Speaker 3: Class's front door.

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Speaker 1: He opens it up and he says, take my fingerprints,

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Speaker 1: take my blood, search my place, search my car, search

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Speaker 1: my office.

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Speaker 3: Hurry do it now.

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Speaker 1: I'll do anything. I'll take a Polly, but find my daughter.

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Speaker 1: Quit focusing on me, please. Time is ticking. That is

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Speaker 1: Mark Class, and since his daughter's death, her murder, he

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Speaker 1: has devoted himself to finding missing people, solving unsolved homicides.

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Speaker 1: His whole life was contorted and twisted by Richard Alan Davis.

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Speaker 3: Smart Class, Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: What went through your mind when you heard about this

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Speaker 1: proposed legislation?

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Speaker 5: Well it was a stab in the heart. Now, So

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Speaker 5: you know what it did is it does us pulled

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Speaker 5: everything right back up to the forefront. It brought the

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Speaker 5: crime back to the floor front the trial. You know,

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Speaker 5: I think about Polly all the time. I think about

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Speaker 5: Polly every day. But once this guy got onto death throw,

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Speaker 5: I put him out of my mind. And there have

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Speaker 5: been very few reasons for me to think about him

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Speaker 5: or to consider him at all over the course of

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Speaker 5: the last thirty years. But this, and the reason for

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Speaker 5: that is because he's been given absolutely every consideration somebody

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Speaker 5: can have. He had a great defense team at trial,

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Speaker 5: He's had several appeals, he's even lost to the California

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Speaker 5: Supreme Court. And I thought it was finished. I thought

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Speaker 5: that was done then, and now, thanks to the California

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Speaker 5: legislature and the interpretation of new laws, it's been thrown

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Speaker 5: right back in my face again. And so one has

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Speaker 5: to deal with it. One has to deal with the

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Speaker 5: raw emotions. One has to deal with the regret, with

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Speaker 5: the hurt, with the pain. And I've been doing that

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Speaker 5: over these past several weeks, and it's a it's not

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Speaker 1: That's certainly an euphemism. It's not fun or easy to

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Speaker 1: deal with. When I think back on my fiance Cay's murder,

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Speaker 1: sometimes can actually make me sick. If I allow myself

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Speaker 1: to think about the moments that he endured just before

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Speaker 1: he finally died and went to heaven.

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Speaker 3: I think, did he did he feel it? Did it hurt?

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Speaker 3: Was he afraid? What happened? What were his last words?

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Speaker 3: I think about all of that. Why wasn't I there?

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Speaker 1: Now it's all back because of legislation and the interpretation

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Speaker 3: Who is this guy? Who is Richard Allen Davis? Listen?

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Speaker 6: Richard Allen Davis is an ex con out on parole

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Speaker 6: after serving eight years of a sixteen year sentence for kidnapping.

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Speaker 6: Parole to a halfway house for convicts with alcohol and

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Speaker 6: drug addiction. He gets an overnight pass and drives his

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Speaker 6: Ford pintos sixty miles up the California coast to Petaluma.

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Speaker 6: Davis goes to a park, smokes a joint, and drinks

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Speaker 6: twelve year old poly class She's having a slumber party

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Speaker 6: with two friends. Davis sneaks into the home, grabs a

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Speaker 6: knife from the kitchen, and goes to the room where

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Speaker 6: the girls are setting up sleeping bags. He threatens the

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Speaker 6: and kidnaps poly Class. It takes the girls twenty minutes

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Speaker 6: to free themselves and they run to Polly's mother, Eve Nichols,

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Speaker 6: who calls the police and more. Ninety minutes after kidnapping

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Speaker 6: poly Class Richard Allen, Davis gets his pentos stuck in

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Speaker 6: him on his way. Two months after Polly's disappearance, Jeffe

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Speaker 6: calls the plea again after finding a sweatshirt, girls clothing,

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Speaker 6: it looked like a crime scene and tells officers about

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Speaker 6: the stranger from two months earlier. The search for poly

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Speaker 6: and investigators quickly pull up their records from the incident

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Speaker 6: and find the name Richard Allen Davis, an ex con

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Speaker 6: in prison for kidnapping.

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Speaker 1: Back to Mark Class, joining us along with an all

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Speaker 1: star panel, Mark I pulled up Polly's Killers. Rap sheet

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Speaker 1: goes all the way back to age twelve. Arrested for burglary,

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Speaker 1: then forging a ten dollars money order, burglary of another home.

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Speaker 1: Them out over to juvenile for incorrigibility, then motorcycle theft,

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Speaker 1: then goes into the army. Then he goes a wall discharge,

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Speaker 1: arrested again, public drunk, arrested again, liquor, burglary, contributing to

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Speaker 1: the delinquents of a minor.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what that was. Goes on and on. I'm

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Speaker 3: cutting through a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: But then we go to more burglaries, residents becoming angry

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Speaker 1: I've got pages and pages and pages, and the offenses

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Speaker 3: This is the guy that's gonna walk free. Mark Class, Well.

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Speaker 5: Not only do the offenses turn more violent, but he's

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Speaker 5: also at this point been diagnosed as a sexually sadistic

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Speaker 5: psychopath and What this character did is he just went

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Speaker 5: through this turnstile system of justice repeatedly. Every time he

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Speaker 5: and it just escalates and escalates and escalates, and he's

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Speaker 5: given chance after chance after chance, until he finally and

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Speaker 5: ultimately grabs Paullie and murders her, and oh walks away

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Speaker 5: from the scene.

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Speaker 1: In seventy six, escapes from the Napa State Hospital, goes

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Speaker 1: on a four day crime spree, breaks into the home

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Speaker 1: of Marjorie Mitchell, a nurse at the state hospital, beats

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Speaker 1: Haze Little Frost, climbs into her cadillac outside a bar.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it goes on and on.

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Speaker 1: He gets twenty for kidnapping twenty five years, he gets

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Speaker 1: out and keeps doing the same thing, robbing a yogurt, shot,

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Speaker 1: robbing a bank, confesses to crime, more crimes behind bars,

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Speaker 1: more kidnappings. It wasn't just Polly that he kidnapped. He's

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Speaker 1: got a string of kidnapping. And what happens when he

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Speaker 3: Let's take a listen from the horse's mouth.

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Speaker 7: Sure is friend of hitter.

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Speaker 1: Sure, you know he says it just as cold and

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Speaker 3: She's not alive.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about a twelve year old little girl taken

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Speaker 1: out of her own home at knife point during a

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Speaker 1: sleepover with her little friends. You know, Mark class I

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Speaker 1: rarely ask you this, but could you go back to

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Speaker 1: that night and tell us what happened?

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Speaker 3: From your vantage?

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Speaker 5: Sure, I was sleep in bed with my then girlfriend,

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Speaker 5: now wife, Violet, and she answered the phone. It rang,

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Speaker 5: and I remember her pushing the phone away from herself,

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Speaker 5: saying no, no, no, tell Mark. She handed me the

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Speaker 5: phone and it was Polly's strange stepfather, Alan Nickel, and

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Speaker 5: he said Paul. Basically, he said, Pauli's been kidnapped and

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Speaker 5: the police don't want you coming up here trampling evidence.

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Speaker 5: I then spent much of the rest of the evening

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Speaker 5: contacting the police. I contacted the FBI because of the

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Speaker 5: Lindberg case. I thought, Wow, if anybody knows about kidnappings,

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Speaker 5: it's the FBI. And they immediately dispatched a local agent

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Speaker 5: to the scene, and that was Eddie Fryer.

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Speaker 7: Who's on your panel?

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Speaker 5: And the next morning we got up and we went

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Speaker 5: to Pedal Luma and stayed there then for the next

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Speaker 5: two months, trying to get Polly back.

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Speaker 1: You know, Mark Klass, the way you tell that is

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Speaker 1: almost by rote because you've been asked so many times,

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Speaker 5: Well well, I mean, it was a it was disbelief.

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Speaker 5: been kidnapped. And that's the point where, you know, it

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Speaker 5: we had to start calling family members, and it was

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Speaker 5: you can even imagine. You have people gasping, you have

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Speaker 5: people crying, you have people swearing on the phone, and

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Speaker 5: you know, then we went up to Pedaluma.

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Speaker 5: Paulie's house and the place was surrounded by satellite trucks.

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Speaker 5: It was just it was almost surreal. It took a

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Speaker 5: little bit of time to emotionally adjust to all of

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Speaker 5: this to emotionally understand that. But boy, once you've go

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Speaker 5: down that rocket hole, it's really really hard to get

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Speaker 5: back out again. And we just spent two months focused

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Speaker 5: on nothing but getting Polly backed. I lost weight during

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Speaker 5: the time. I almost gave up several times during that time.

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Speaker 5: It was just brutal. It's the most brutal thing an

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Speaker 5: daughter that's been kidnapped in a community, a large community

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Speaker 5: with a history of child kidnappings that were never solved.

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Speaker 1: Richard Allan Davis, I usually don't even say his name.

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Speaker 1: I usually say Polly's killer. This is the man that

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Speaker 1: gets a knife and goes into the bedroom of Polly

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Speaker 1: class blindfolds her little friends and kidnaps Polly. He's got

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Speaker 1: a long history of kidnaps and attacks. His crime started

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Speaker 1: at age twelve, and now legislation and the interpretation of

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Speaker 1: that legislation threatens he will walk free.

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Speaker 3: Listen to more. He told police, I want to tell me.

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Speaker 5: What happened that night.

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Speaker 8: So I was parked downtown or some park along some

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Speaker 5: I went over seven eleven, got a quarter beer.

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Speaker 7: Went back sitting in the park head of my car parked.

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Speaker 1: Me lead FBI agent on the polyclass missing turned murder case.

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Speaker 3: Eddie Fryer, I don't know if you've ever.

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Speaker 1: Noticed this or not, but I've dealt with a lot

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Speaker 3: Part where he drags Pollie out of her bedroom.

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Speaker 9: That part absolutely in the case of Richard Allen Davis,

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Speaker 9: a confession because woefully short of a confession. His statement

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Speaker 7: And he press his story.

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Speaker 9: About being a pedalom that night, having a beer and

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Speaker 9: It's late at night. He ends up on Pithian Road

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Speaker 9: maybe a little bit longer. He goes back to get Polly,

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Speaker 9: around a little bit longer that evening, ends up in Cloverdale.

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Speaker 9: He asks to get out of the car, and that's

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Speaker 7: Now he's questioned quite.

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Speaker 9: A bit about what he did with Pollie in those

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Speaker 7: He's very evasive.

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Speaker 9: You can tell he's lying because of all the behavioral

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Speaker 7: But clearly, clearly.

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Speaker 9: You know he missed going into the house, tying up

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Speaker 7: But he leaves a lot out of this story.

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Speaker 9: But the evidence says a lot happened between the kidnapping

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Speaker 9: where he took Paulie after the kidnapping, the crime scene

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Speaker 9: itself suggests a lot. At the crime scene on the hillside,

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Speaker 9: we find a large men's black sweatshirt laying on the ground,

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Speaker 9: We find a condom, we find a condom wrapper, We

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Speaker 9: find red tis that belonged to Pauli, We find the.

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Speaker 10: Ground visibly disturbed.

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Speaker 9: All of that suggests that there are more than likely

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Speaker 9: And then and then later when we cover the body

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Speaker 9: suggests that there was something that happened to Paulie, either

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Speaker 9: the jury heard that evidence, they weighed all that evidence,

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Speaker 9: I saw the poly class up on Pitheon Roape.

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Speaker 3: Mark class with us Polly's father Mark.

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Speaker 1: Usually I do not condone any misbehavior in a court

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Speaker 1: you actually lunged at Richard Allen Davis. If you could

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Speaker 5: You know, I killed the son of Amish is what

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Speaker 5: I do. If I had an opportunity, I'd love to

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Speaker 5: the life out of him. I'd love to treat him

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Speaker 5: the same way he treated my daughter. You know, he

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Speaker 5: this guy's have the benefit of what do you call it?

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Speaker 5: Three squares in a.

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Speaker 3: Bed, three hots and a cot paid for by you.

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Speaker 1: I mean. And now because of this newly enacted legislation, uh,

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Speaker 1: he is now asking for a reversal. Guys, speaking of

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Speaker 5: He's.

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Speaker 2: About building him.

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Speaker 5: I'm just going to the window.

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Speaker 2: The problem you do get.

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Speaker 1: Someone and put them all light down or whatever?

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Speaker 2: Where were they? My guess.

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Speaker 1: There's three Okay, did you hear that? And I want

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Speaker 1: to go to doctor Sarah G. West, forensic psychiatrist specializing

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Speaker 3: You can find her at.

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Speaker 1: Forensic psychiatrist MD dot com, Professor Psychiatry, Case, Western Reserve

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Speaker 1: University School of Medicine, Doctor West, thank you for being

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Speaker 1: with us. Did you hear what he said? Right at

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Speaker 1: the beginning? Doctor West? He says things got fuzzy after that.

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Speaker 1: It's like he got transported. Have you ever seen Harry

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Speaker 3: Just like that.

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Speaker 1: It's like he was riding around having a joint, drinking beer,

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Speaker 3: And where were they? In a bedroom? I guess there

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Speaker 3: why am I here with a knife in my hand?

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Speaker 3: How did that happen?

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Speaker 1: Because he broke in and threatened three little girls age

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Speaker 3: Her and murders her. Poly class.

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Speaker 1: So, in terms of memory lapses, I suspect that a

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Speaker 1: the next thing.

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Speaker 3: I remember. I was driving down the road and I

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Speaker 1: Front seat got turned off some road. He's glazing over

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Speaker 1: everything he doesn't want us to know, but the.

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Speaker 5: Fact remains that he did what he did, and he

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Speaker 7: I don't know what to.

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Speaker 5: Say about anything that this guy does or says. It's

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Speaker 1: I guess if you have any doubt that this guy

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Speaker 2: I was at a.

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Speaker 1: Car and.

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Speaker 8: Want she used to strangler's clause.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now.

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Speaker 1: In addition to Polly's a father, Mark Klass, and the

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Speaker 1: San Jose Mercury News. John Wolfolk, investigative reporter, thank you

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Speaker 11: So this was a bill that was designed to help

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Speaker 11: But he he told me, in no uncertain terms, he

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Speaker 1: Really, so is that what Assembleman Ben Allen thinks he

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Speaker 1: Richard Allen Davis, convicted of murdering poly Class, seeks to

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Speaker 1: have his death sentence overturned. Legal motions are happening now

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Speaker 1: to make that happen. Mark Class, joining me Polly's father

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Speaker 1: in addition to John Woolfolk the San Jose Mercury News,

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Speaker 1: Mark Class, did you ask to find out how many inmates,

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Speaker 5: Yes, of course I did, because I kept reading about

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Speaker 5: I brought attention to this. I just think it's completely

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Speaker 5: more than the tip of the iceberg.

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Speaker 1: At to Sam Dordulian, sex sole lawyer, former La County

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Speaker 1: who now represents sex attacked victims, how is it that

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Speaker 1: in an effort to help quote, reduce prison population.

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Speaker 3: What about innocent people like Polly? What about all the.

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Speaker 1: Innocent children, women, victims waiting to become people waiting to

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Speaker 8: People pass these laws focused, especially in the last ten

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Speaker 8: see anything progressive about these legislations, But the focus is

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Speaker 8: That's never in consideration. It's all about how is this

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Speaker 8: to do to see helping them out? And that seems

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Speaker 8: to be the focus. And it has to stop because

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Speaker 8: is just not something that we should ever ever consider.

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Speaker 1: Could you believe it when you heard about this legislation?

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Speaker 7: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, since twenty eleven, the state of California has

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Speaker 5: been doing everything they can to empty the prisons. Negate

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Speaker 5: or eliminate the death penalty, kill the three strikes law.

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Speaker 5: And as your previous guest said, it's all do to

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Speaker 5: help the criminal and there's absolutely no consideration at all

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Speaker 5: given to the crime victims community. They could care less

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Speaker 5: about us. I know that for a fact. So I

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Speaker 5: was surprised, I guess to some degree. But you know,

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Speaker 5: it didn't hit me like a sledgehammer, because it's expected

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Speaker 5: in the California legislature now for these kinds of things

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Speaker 5: to happen. It's just an erosion of public safety, one

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Speaker 5: after another after another. And although they claim that the

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Speaker 5: crime statistics have gone on, you have to look deep

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Speaker 5: into that and see how crime has been skewered in California.

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Speaker 5: People will tell you one after another that crime is

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Speaker 5: going up and up and up, and you can just

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Speaker 5: see it in San Francisco with every major retailer practically

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Speaker 5: that exists is pulling out of that city because of crime.

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Speaker 5: And it's the same with violent crime. So was I surprised,

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Speaker 5: I guess to some love. While was surprised, but it

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Speaker 5: wasn't the body shock that it might be in some

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Speaker 5: other place, because California has been moving down this path

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Speaker 5: for a long time. Now Governor Jerry Brown and now Newsom,

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Speaker 5: they love to sign this kind of legislation. They violent criminals,

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Speaker 5: have an amazing and great advocate in Sacramento, and it

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Speaker 5: happens to be the governor.

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Speaker 1: This is a crime that struck fear into the hearts

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Speaker 1: of parents across the country, across the world. This family

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Speaker 1: did everything right. Mom was at home sleeping next to

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Speaker 1: her daughter in another bedroom with another daughter, when out

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Speaker 1: of the blue, in the middle of the night, incomes

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Speaker 1: Richard Allen Davis and kidnaps Polly with a knife. The

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Speaker 1: search following that was horrific, with Mark Klass doing everything

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Speaker 1: he could think of to bring Polly home alive. Mark,

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Speaker 1: do you remember when you learned that Polly's leggings had

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Speaker 1: been found what she had been wearing.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I do remember that. I remember it specifically. It

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Speaker 5: was during a meeting with two law enforcement officials. Eddie

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Speaker 5: wasn't part of that meeting, and they told us that

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Speaker 5: they had found these things at the Pythian Road location

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Speaker 5: where Dana Jaffey discovered them, and they then tried to

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Speaker 5: convince me that Polly was dead, and it became an

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Speaker 5: unbelievably contentious meeting because even at that point I wasn't

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Speaker 5: willing to accept the obvious. I felt that she was

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Speaker 5: alive and that all he had to do was talk

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Speaker 5: to Davis and convince him to tell us where she

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Speaker 5: had hit him. And it was I guess five days

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Speaker 5: later that they das truth was ultimately.

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Speaker 3: Revealed two Doctor Sarah G.

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Speaker 1: West, Associate Professor Psychiatry, Case Western Reserve. Doctor West, I

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Speaker 1: had a similar reaction, and I think many crime victims

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Speaker 1: family murder victims' families do. They don't believe it, They

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Speaker 1: refuse to believe it, and they can caught all sorts

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Speaker 1: of scenarios other than the one I love.

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Speaker 3: Is, did they've been murdered? What is that?

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Speaker 8: I suspect Nancy that that has something to do with

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Speaker 8: the brain being self protective.

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Speaker 1: Of course, recognizing and acknowledging trauma to that level, it's

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Speaker 1: a very difficult.

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Speaker 10: Thing to do.

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Speaker 1: To Eddie Fryer joining us, the lead FBI agent in

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Speaker 1: the Polychlass case, what is your recollection of the search

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Speaker 1: for Polly?

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Speaker 10: Oh my gosh, that effort by all stakes.

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Speaker 9: I'm not just saying law enforcement agencies, but nonprofit.

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Speaker 10: Search groups, the community, the family.

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Speaker 7: It was.

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Speaker 9: It was a unified effort by everybody, NonStop for sixty

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Speaker 9: days that we searched for Polly. There wasn't a stone

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Speaker 9: that we didn't look under. There wasn't a lead that

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Speaker 9: we didn't pursue. We had over sixty thousand tips in

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Speaker 9: sixty days, twelve thousand plus actionable leads.

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Speaker 10: That is unheard of in that amount of time.

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Speaker 7: And we had we.

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Speaker 9: Had, if not dozens hundreds of agents and detectives working

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Speaker 9: every day, tirelessly, NonStop, twenty four to seven for one purpose, only,

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Speaker 9: nasty one purpose, only find Poly Class and to bring

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Speaker 9: her home.

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Speaker 1: When I look at Richard Allen Davis smirking in court

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Speaker 1: as Mark Class talks about the murder of his daughter,

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Speaker 1: I just want to snap his head off. And this

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Speaker 1: is who may walk free due to enlightened legislation spearheaded

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Speaker 1: by Ben Allen, the Assemblyman in California, potentially affecting over

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Speaker 1: nine thousand violent inmates that could be released in an

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Speaker 1: effort to help reduce prison population.

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Speaker 3: I mean, John Woolfolk, investigative.

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Speaker 1: Reporter Santa's a Mercury News, what exactly does the legislation do?

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Speaker 3: Break it down for me?

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Speaker 11: State Senator Alan's bill extended some other legislation retro actively

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Speaker 11: to affect old cases, including mister Davis's.

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Speaker 7: He had.

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Speaker 11: Among the things he was convicted of is as you mentioned,

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Speaker 11: he had a lot of prior crimes and convictions, and

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Speaker 11: under the law at the time, you would get additional

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Speaker 11: sentencing enhancements for those. More recent legislation struck some of those,

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Speaker 11: and Senator Allen's bill extended that retroactively.

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Speaker 1: So in other words, any type of similar transactions or

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Speaker 1: prior convictions would.

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Speaker 3: Be watered down.

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Speaker 1: It would not be any justification or any aggravating factor

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Speaker 1: at a DP death penalty trial.

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Speaker 3: So how do we.

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Speaker 1: Go about stopping this from happening, Mark Class, Well, we do.

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Speaker 5: It's the only thing we can do. It's into the

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Speaker 5: penal code now, so you have to reverse the penal

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Speaker 5: code yet again. But with the current state of the legislature,

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Speaker 5: that will never happen. These people are intent on one

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Speaker 5: thing under the leadership of the governor or three things.

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Speaker 5: They're intent on eliminating the prisons I think. I mean,

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Speaker 5: they're already they're down to seventy seven thousand people. These

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Speaker 5: are not overcrowded prisons. And believe me, after all of

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Speaker 5: the people that have been released. These are terrible people

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Speaker 5: that are still in our prison system. They're trying to

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Speaker 5: do that. They're trying to kill three strikes and I

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Speaker 5: think I've mentioned it before. They're trying to finally and

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Speaker 5: once and for all eliminate the death penalty within California.

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Speaker 5: And each and every one of these measures is designed

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Speaker 5: to do nothing more than benefit the criminals and hurt

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Speaker 5: the victim's community.

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Speaker 7: And that's just.

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Speaker 5: Appalling, immoral, it's illogical, it's just the worst.

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Speaker 1: You know, Mark Class and all the times we've spoken

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Speaker 1: about Polly, you are very surgical and your analysis of

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Speaker 1: what happened when you retail, what happened to Polly and

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Speaker 1: what it has done to your life. The burden that

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Speaker 1: you carry, the banner you wave helping crime victims and

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Speaker 1: dealing with Polly's murder, is it ever too much, too

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Speaker 1: heavy of a burden for you.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it's become kind of overwhelming. And that's why

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Speaker 5: we're closing the Class Kids Foundation at the end of

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Speaker 5: this year. Is just carrying the burden for thirty years,

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Speaker 5: is carrying other people's burden? Is what was my own

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Speaker 5: for thirty years? Is an awful lot and I can

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Speaker 5: continue to carry mine. I have no choice about that.

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Speaker 5: But as for the rest, I'm I'm worn out. You know,

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm wasted. There's very little left.

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Speaker 3: And now this and now this. Yeah, let your voice

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Speaker 3: be heard.

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Speaker 1: Nine one six four, four five two eight four to

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Speaker 1: one repeat nine one six, four four five two eight

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Speaker 1: for one. We stop now and remember. American Hero Police

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Speaker 1: Officer Justin Hare, just thirty five, shot dead trying to

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Speaker 1: help a disabled vehicle, New Mexico. A family man expecting

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Speaker 1: a third child with long time fiance Desiree. He leaves

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Speaker 1: behind his parents, fiance, and two daughters. American Hero Justin Hare,

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend,