WEBVTT - 520 | Minor League Pitching Prospect Heat Sheet (Week 12) 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:15.760 Any switch to him understanding, Jem just sent her feel 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:19.560 and it's gone, Wow. 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:23.840 His first big league swing is gonna be a grand slam, 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:25.480 a home lone swing. 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:33.839 Good time to look to them, Soup. Welcome back to 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:36.000 The Call Up, your go to podcast in the future 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:37.239 starts in Major League Baseball. 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:39.720 We've got a picture heat sheet today. 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:42.440 We're giving the pictures some love here on the episode 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:46.200 Arm Late and Elijah Evans. We got arms from all 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:49.440 different levels that we're gonna discuss today, and it feels 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:51.200 like we've been due to give the pictures a little 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:53.240 bit of extra love, and we're gonna be doing plenty 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:53.800 of that today. 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:55.800 Yeah, we got a fun list, man. We did hitters 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:57.760 last week. We had some some promotions to get to 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:59.520 it's some other things. We only really had time for 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.000 hitters in the heat sheet. Today, we're just gonna focus 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.200 solely on the pitchers. I got a list of like 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:06.720 twelve arms here, I think thirteen arms here that are 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.400 all really shoving right now, from top down from triple 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:11.440 A all the way down to single A. So it's 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.440 a fun group here and we'll jump right into it. 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:15.240 Man with with a guy and Owen Murphy that we 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.600 were really excited about and talked a lot about in 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.080 twenty twenty five and twenty four. Actually even really is 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.360 when we I think for you, he really popped up 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:24.880 on the radar fully and then had surgery, went down, 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.280 comes back late last year and then into this year, 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.560 like he basically just skipped double A. They essentially used 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.640 double A as like his like getting back in the 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.120 groove process, and even though he wasn't actually performing great 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:38.759 in Double A, pretty quickly goes to triple and now 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.080 his past handful starts in trips man Murphy looks like 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:42.800 he could end up being a piece here for Atlanta 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:44.600 as they kind of push for it play the playoffs 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:45.240 later this season. 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.800 Yeah, he saw the command, which has never really been 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:50.840 the case too much for Murphy be a bit of 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.480 the hindrance in the early going of the season, and 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.320 he saw some free passes being handed out at double A, 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.720 and in the first start in triple even a little 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:02.800 bit the command wasn't totally there, and then of late 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.280 it seems like he's been mostly locked in. 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.920 There's one other outing where he walked five in Triple A. 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.400 But also it's pretty common we talk about the different 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:12.400 baseball and especially with Murphy, where. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:16.120 This is somebody with a huge part of his game is. 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:19.240 The low release, high carry fastball that he owns, and 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.960 I think for those types of guys, you maybe feel 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.639 like your vert gets gets knocked down just a little bit, 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:26.600 and then you start to nibble a little bit, maybe 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:28.040 you don't trust stuff in the zone as much with 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.520 that triple A baseball, I don't see that being the 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.120 case with Murphy, And actually he's maintained kind of the 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:36.519 same level of vert at north of eighteen inches of 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:38.840 induced vertical breakoats to nineteen inches on average from a 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.639 five to six release sight is really really good carry. 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.240 And the other aspect is since coming back from TJ, 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:47.600 similar to JR. Richie, like at first the vlow wasn't 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.640 totally totally there, and we're seeing it build up. And 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.960 before the injury, Murphy had seen a bit of an 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:56.600 uptick and then unfortunately went down with the elbow issues. 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.720 So I think what's interesting with him too is Murphy's 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.720 really been effective in the low nineties because the fastball 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.200 shape is so good and because of the deception and 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.240 even before that injury, having ticked up just one mile 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:11.120 per hour being more in the ninety two ish range 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.360 seemed to make a big difference for him, and now 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:17.440 sitting right in that same area and touching to ninety 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.440 three to ninety four, I think is helping him big 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.080 time to be able to get a lot of whiff 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.360 within the zone. So the fastball is the name of 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.639 the game for him, but the development of the secondary's 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.240 off of that, I think has also been a huge 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.080 help too, and I think that's been a big focus 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.840 for him. The change up has developed and come along 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.560 as a solid offering for him. He's got a cutter 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.600 and a slider that he will go to, and then 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.880 a bigger curve ball as well. So it's a much 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.560 more complete arsenal compared to where he was at, maybe 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:44.360 before the surgery, even where he was very dependent on that. 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.000 Fastball and the fastball shape. 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:47.920 When you look at the characteristics from release to the 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.480 carry to the velocity in general too, it's very similar 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.800 to what we saw from Christian Javier, And as you saw, 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.440 Javier was able to have a lot of success with 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:58.080 that fastball despite super high usages. So the fact that 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.600 we're seeing Murphy round out the arsenal as well on 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:03.280 top of it, I think puts him in a really 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.880 good spot. I think it's mostly residual effects with the 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.800 command from the elbow surgery, and I do think we're 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.000 going to ultimately see him settle back in to being 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:12.960 the strike thrower that we've seen in the past. 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:14.920 And as much as you never want to see young 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.080 guys get surgery and have to miss time, right like 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:18.520 he did it at such a young age where he's 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.040 still twenty two, it's gonna be twenty two till the 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.560 end of the season. So having the time where he's 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:24.560 now really focused on the arsenal adjustments, like you talk 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.560 about becoming a more well rounded pitcher beyond that fastball, 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:29.480 and still being at such a young point in his 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.160 career with the surgery already passed him, right, he's in 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.600 the rear view mirror. Maybe the command is slightly lagging 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.080 behind still because of that, but like we've seen him 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:38.560 work through that and get to a point where now 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.800 he's still very young in Triple A and in his 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.520 past six games, man, like you're looking at his last 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.919 thirty five innings of work, it's forty two strikeouts at 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.440 eight walks. So since those little blips in command, like 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.599 you're on a stretch there of good command. He's punching 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:54.920 guys out at a high clip. He's been effective. I mean, yeah, 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.400 he hasn't had like any shutout crazy outings, but he's 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.400 giving up, you know, one to two runs to start 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.240 striking out six to eight guys and giving you a 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.120 quality outing for six to straight at this point. 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:06.719 Yeah, and that's what it's going to bode well for you. 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.640 Fastballs up a tick and a half this year he 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:11.320 was averaging. I think part of it was a little 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.520 bit slower. He was every twenty inches of last year 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:16.599 actually was just crazy. But at nineteen this year, you're 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.960 going to make that exchange for a tick and a 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:20.679 half to go from ninety and a half to ninety 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:22.480 two point one, which is where he's at this year. 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:24.680 And in the fastball and change up strike rate have 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.320 been really good. It's been the breaking balls that I 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.440 just think that feel hasn't totally come back yet, and 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.400 it already started starting to look like it is. 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.160 So I'm excited. Murphy is a guy that would have 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:35.680 been the top one hundred prospect for US had he 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:36.599 not gone down with the injury. 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.240 He was right about to be added to our list 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.280 last year and then you know, now we're going to 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.400 see him. I think, even if he doesn't quite crack 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.000 the list, be a guy that's going to be part 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.120 of that Brave's rotation and at least profiles is a 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.239 solid back end of the rotation piece moving forward, maybe 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.400 as as early as the end of this year if 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.440 they need somebody, But you know, I think realistically in 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:56.200 the fold next. 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.560 Year, yeah, and they could use continual help. I think 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.120 with the back of the rotation, the Braves are still 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:01.680 sort of piecing it together. And even though it's not 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.280 this year, they've got other guys who were on deck 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.159 and ready to go this year. But like like you said, 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:06.680 going into next year, I think he can be a 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.520 legitimate piece for that rotation moving forward. 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:11.040 And we'll see. 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.720 I think with the trades that they could make too, 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:15.479 he could be trade bait. I just want to float 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:16.919 that too, because I think plenty of teams will have 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.360 interest in a picture with that, you know, with that stuff, 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:21.680 and at twenty two years old. 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:24.600 Getting into the next name here on the heat sheet, 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.440 going over to the Saint Louis Cardinals organization, we've got 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.120 Quinn Matthews and this is a name that's come on 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:31.839 and off of our heat sheets. I feel like for 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:33.919 two years, maybe you're on and off of just talking 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.159 about him and then having more conversations around him. He's 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:38.960 had some ups and downs, for sure, and just the 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.960 progression of his career. He had that ridiculous twenty twenty 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.560 fourth season. Last year, he definitely came back down to 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.719 earth more and it was just more of a stretch 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.200 where he wasn't quite finding it. Even this year, it's 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.320 been a little bit of a slower start to the 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.360 season for him. The command has still just not been 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.200 where we were used to seeing from him early in 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.520 his career. With that said, recently it's definitely trended the 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.839 right direction. Looking here his last you know, I think 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.279 his last five starts, he's allowed like five runs total 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.280 across his past five starts. Walker, It's still higher than 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.080 you'd like to see it, but he's at least having 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.160 some more success as the season goes on after a 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.160 few really rough games that he got blown up a 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:15.280 little bit early in the season. 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.720 Yeah, it's been fascinating his development because this was somebody 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:22.280 that you know, we looked at, especially after the drafts, 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.040 was just kind of like a strike thrower. The reason 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.320 why he was not an earlier pick and he was 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.840 a fourth round selection was because you kind of were 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.720 just hoping that he would execute enough to be a 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.560 number five starter and eight innings for you. And then 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.240 he has this breakout year where the v lo's up 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.240 from the low nineties to the mid nineties and even 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.440 touching a little bit a bit above that. The command 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.320 was still there, The stuff across the board was so 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:47.920 much better, and it felt like he was all we 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.840 were talking about in twenty twenty four. But it just 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.240 hasn't quite been the same. I think a shoulder issue 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:56.240 affected him that he kind of pitched through, and then 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.920 since then it just seems like he has not quite 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.720 been able to back in on the command. It also 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.120 coincided with triple A, and I just there's some sort 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:05.720 of hurdle there for him too. 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:08.760 But he's shown the ability. 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:12.280 To have that dominance where we saw back to back 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:16.280 starts in June where he went six innings of shutout 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.000 ball with one walk. 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.520 One was nine k's and the other was six k's. 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:23.800 But then right after that it's four walks, and so 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:28.320 it's the tough part there. What I think is undeniably true. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.720 Is the stuff is really good and like this stuff 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.000 is back. His fastball is up almost a full tick 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:35.559 from where it was last year, which was down a 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.400 tick and change from where it was the year before, 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.360 which was up a couple of ticks from where it 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:43.120 was the year before. So it's really difficult to exactly 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:44.280 figure out where he's going to. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:45.400 Sit velocity wise. 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.480 But I think when you look at where he's at 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.200 this year, it seems like it's a step forward from 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:54.480 that disappointing year last year, but also not quite where 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.240 he was at in that breakout year before, which had 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:58.880 him looking like one of the more exciting left tenant 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:03.000 pitching prospects in baseball. It's a fastball, even at ninety 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.400 four that has plus carry to it, especially for a 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:08.480 left from the lower release height that's going to allow 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.680 it to be I think an above average heater. You 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:15.040 look across the arsenal, the stuff is absolutely there. 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:16.319 I mean, the slider is. 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:19.280 A plus pitch with a fifty percent wift rate this season. 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.959 The change up has been his bread and butter since 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.839 he was in college. That has flashed plus as well, 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.480 but the challenge has been being able to be in 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.240 the zone consistently forty seven percent end zone rate on 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:34.600 the season, fifty eight percent strike rate on the season. 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.400 That's going to be the difference between him being stuck 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.400 in Triple A and eventually getting up to the big leagues. 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:40.640 That said, with the way this team. 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.559 Is playing right now and with the stuff that Matthews has, 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.520 I think there's some sort of role that they could 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.920 still weaponize him in, whether it's in this like you know, 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:51.680 short burst opener, piggyback guy. I just think until the 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:54.760 command gets better, it's hard to say, hey, go get 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.800 the ball every fifth day at the highest level and 0:09:58.000 --> 0:09:59.160 we're going to hope that you make it through it 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.800 because with the the way the command looks on certain 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.679 days in the big leagues, you might not make it 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:06.520 out of the first or second inning, and you can't 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:07.800 do that to your big league team. 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:09.960 So that's the biggest thing. It's big league stuff. 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:15.320 I think it's bordering on mid rotation stuff, but the 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.200 command is just just kind of touch and go a 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.360 little too much with such a talented arm. 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.480 Yeah, maybe it's like a Kyle leehy piggyback type situation. 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.920 They're kind of both totally different types of arms. You 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.640 get a righty left you look, maybe he just comes 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.320 off of a three four inning piggyback type of spot. 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:32.960 I just you know for him, right, Like even with 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:35.120 some of these bumps, you look at the past five 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.480 starts and he's walked more guys than he's even given 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.520 up hits, So like he's not giving up, he's not 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.800 getting beat. Really, he's being himself when he when he 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.160 has these rough outings like ten hits allowed his past 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.240 twenty five innings pitched with thirty two strikeouts in that span. 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:49.720 If you're striking out over three times more hitters than 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.839 you're letting get a hit off you, you're doing a 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:53.800 lot of things. Well, he just it is those four 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.480 and there's four walk outings. There's three walkoutings where just 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.280 the command isn't there. But he's not getting beat at all. 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.120 So you got to find a role for that guy 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.199 at some point because he is like it's a one 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.360 aer in that five game stretch I just mentioned there, 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:08.240 Like he's doing the job. He just still doesn't have 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.680 it fully command wise. But there's a lot of positive 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.080 takeaways I think from looking at the numbers and especially 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.000 the past months to two months. 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.080 I think the back to back starts there where you 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.440 have the one walk, I think it shows you and 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.319 there's some jerkiness to his delivery, and I think that's 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:23.719 part of why you see him just get out of 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.520 sank in sync and then out of sank again. And 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.839 it just seems like timing that arm up has been difficult. 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:32.000 But lefties this year hitting one ninety. 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:32.280 Four agains him. 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.000 They're still going three forty three and they're striking out 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:35.960 forty two percent of the time. So when you have 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.960 this right situation to potentially deploy him where it's left 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.400 he heavy at the start of a lineup, or you 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.160 like a pocket for him out of the pen, like 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.079 I do think that's a role that they could utilize 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.440 him in. I think the goal is still to develop 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.200 this guy that has you know, above average heater and 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:55.120 potentially you know, two plus secondaries to be that starting 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.000 pitcher for you. But he's gonna be twenty six years 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.520 old in October, and I think it's time to kind 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:00.840 of see if he can help you at the big, 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:02.959 bigue level for a Cardinals team that maybe isn't going 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:07.240 to aggressively buy, So, who are some options internally that 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.680 can help you I'm also looking at Cooper Jerpy, who 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.320 has been throwing well as he's come back from elbow surgery, 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.160 and that's another guy of the bullpen left. He's ain't 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.840 gonna be comfortable against him either. They have some internal 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:21.040 options that you may not, you know, long term, want 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.520 to project them as relievers, but right now that could 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:24.720 be a great way to get their feet wet at 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:26.480 the highest level and help your team trying to make 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.400 a push for that wild card spot that they're holding 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:29.720 on to comfortably. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.120 Right now, you get creative with it, they're gonna have 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:32.680 to because they're going to make a push. Like whether 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.120 I don't know, we don't think they're buying like crazy, but. 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:35.920 Like but they ain't selling. 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:38.840 They're good. They don't have any reason to sell right now. 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.240 Right it's like there's a funny conversation, but like they're 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:43.199 gonna try to make it happen. So guys like Jerky, 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.480 guys like Matthew's, they can give you some sort of value, 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.520 even if it's in a unique type of role. You 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.080 try it out and you see what happens. Right absolutely 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.240 getting into the next guy on the heat sheet. Here 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.160 in New York Yankees, we're talking to reliever man. Pretty 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.079 rare that we get relievers on the heat sheet, but 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.720 it's because it's Carlos and hey, who's the top one 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.040 hundred prospect in baseball and he's pitching out of the 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.840 bullpen now. So A, he's throwing really well and B. 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.000 I also just wanted to check in with you on 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.400 kind of where you're at with him as a you know, 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.320 a reliever technically speaking. I know, I still think the 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.680 long term goal for him is to start, but he 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:17.959 hasn't moved to the bullpen and he's been relieving of late. 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:19.400 So where are you at with him? And what have 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.280 you kind of thought of his initial you know, what 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.319 about two weeks or so of being a bullpen guy 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:24.040 for the Yankees. 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.040 Triple A, Yeah, it's fun. I think this is the 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:28.400 right path as well. 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.200 I mean, because this is somebody that he's not going 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.040 to get an opportunity to throw it as a starter 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:34.720 at the big league level right now with how many 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.199 arms that they have. And we just talked about a 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.680 similar thing. The Yankees are going to aggressively by but 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.679 this may allow you to have one, you know, one 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:47.920 of your guys internally helping you bullpen wise. 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:49.120 So I'm excited to see. 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.199 I think what you're seeing is what you would kind 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.200 of imagine too from him out of the pen, is 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:56.520 that he's going to be able to overwhelm hitters, even 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.400 if he's kind of just easing his. 0:13:58.360 --> 0:13:59.000 Way into it. 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.840 I think you still still seeing multiple plus pitches, the 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.800 fastball that can get north of one hundred miles per hour, 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:07.920 but right now it seems like he's almost just been 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:11.280 more focused on sitting in the upper nineties and filling 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:13.480 up the zone and having a feel for the whole arsenal, 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:14.920 and then when he needs to, when he needs a 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.439 dial back for a little bit extra, you see him 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.720 grab that one hundred one oh one, and beyond that, 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:22.440 what I'm excited for is when you get that guy 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:24.720 in the big leagues out of the bullpen, we're probably 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:25.520 gonna see some one. 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.160 O threes and one oh fours. 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.960 And it's just been cool to see though he's clearly 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.520 pacing himself and looking like they're gonna use him in 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.680 potentially this like multi ending relief role which is super 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.120 effective as well. Talk about a Swiss army knife that 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.160 he could be for them. It's leverage stuff, but it's also, 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.600 you know a guy that is still maintaining the ability 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:45.560 to be stretched out. 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:46.080 A little bit as well. 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.680 They're not just going like super short, short short bursts. 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:50.880 Aside from the last outing where he went just one inning, 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:52.800 but for the most part, it seems like he's still 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.960 been being stretched out at least a little bit. This 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:57.240 is the guy that think will help them out of 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.720 the bullpen this year. And again, it's hard to find 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:03.400 stuff like this from a starter, so you already feel 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.560 that way. I imagine it in shorter spurts out of 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:06.040 the bullpen. 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:08.840 Yeah, I think that he's just you know, it's cool 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.440 to see the progression of how they're using him, and 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:12.280 it's ter be interesting to see the deployment like you 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.120 mentioned there, because he did go like his first bullpen 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.760 outing was like a four inning piggyback, but then this 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:19.800 last outing this week was one inning. It was like 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:21.600 let it fly for an inning. He gave one plane 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.640 inning and that was that. So it is gonna be 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.800 really interesting to see how the Yankees decided to use him. 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:27.880 I think he's a weapon in that bullpen one way 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:29.640 or another. I mean, they are going to compete. We 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:31.280 know the Yankees are obviously that the cream of the 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.120 crop in the American League, and like somehow he's gonna 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:35.960 be used. I don't know what exactly it's gonna be, 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:37.640 but like the Yankees bullpen hasn't been all that great. 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.800 There's been a lot of inconsistency, and yeah, they're probably 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.280 gonna go buy a high end reliever or two. But 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.120 if this can be a Swiss Army fifth to seventh inning, 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.520 like two inning or one inning type of you know, 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.760 role in that way, I do think he can serve 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:51.680 the Yankees really well. And it's gonna be fun to 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.600 watch because, like you said, you're gonna see some some 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.240 electric stuff out of him in a high pressure, potentially 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:57.160 playoff situation. 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.000 Strike great is up to since he's been coming out 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.160 of the pen, and so I think, interesting, that's interesting 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.600 to strike right really over the last thirty days is 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:08.080 up five percent. So yeah, I feel like he's feeling 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.000 it more in terms of just trying to fill up 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.120 the zone at ninety eight, not overthrowing, and then he 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.400 has that in his back pocket. But you see him 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.360 down the one on one and then get really fired 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:17.040