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Speaker 2: We made it. We did it. We made it to
Speaker 2: a Wednesday. It's our one. It's already been a great day,
Speaker 2: unbelievable day. Yesterday went to the supermarket and I'm walking
Speaker 2: down an aisle and I see the strawberry Nesley's Quick.
Speaker 2: Is that what it's called? Yeah? I haven't had it
Speaker 2: in forty years? And I said, you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: going to have some strawberry Quick. So I started my
Speaker 2: day with strawberry Quick. I think that's what it's called. Yes, Paulie.
Speaker 3: Why do you think that is? Because I think we
Speaker 3: all have that stuff we loved as a kid. We
Speaker 3: can now afford it and buy it anytime we want. Well,
Speaker 3: we don't eat it or drink it.
Speaker 4: Why is this?
Speaker 2: I have no idea, no idea, but it just jumped
Speaker 2: out at me. Haven't had it in forty years? Had
Speaker 2: it this morning? And I said, you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: going to have a second glass. That's how good I
Speaker 2: feel today. Marvin, you're a big strawberry Quick guy, aren't you.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And now that I can afford it, I never
Speaker 5: have it.
Speaker 2: Hit it on the head. Why I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know what that is like ovaltine. There's certain things.
Speaker 2: I just walked by the aisle and I was going, God,
Speaker 2: there's a cornicopia of things that I might want to
Speaker 2: have for breakfast, and I decided on strawbery quick. Yes, Paul.
Speaker 3: When I was in high school, grade school, I used
Speaker 3: to go through a sleeve of ruffles, Remember the what
Speaker 3: was the one pringles in the can where you get
Speaker 3: your ham stuck. I walked by them all the time.
Speaker 3: I never get them.
Speaker 4: Why is it?
Speaker 5: I wish I had that kind of willpower.
Speaker 6: I'll get the regular and the pizza flavor and the
Speaker 6: surkey red onion.
Speaker 1: I can't make up my mind.
Speaker 2: You're coming out with cannisters there under your arm or
Speaker 2: for nine bucks? Yeah? Who could pass that up and
Speaker 2: not pass it? Alrighty, all's quiet, or all is quiet
Speaker 2: on the coaching front, at least so far. And you
Speaker 2: have the possibility of Mike McCarthy interviewing with the Bears today,
Speaker 2: and then you have some of these other coaches who
Speaker 2: were still in the postseason who aren't afforded that luxury. Now,
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys with Deon Sanders, that's going to get
Speaker 2: a lot of run that's going to play out until
Speaker 2: Dallas hires a coach. I don't think it's going to
Speaker 2: be Dion. I think Jerry Jones did Diona solid Dion
Speaker 2: is in negotiations for a contract extension at Colorado. He
Speaker 2: would normally be getting that, but if there's the possibility
Speaker 2: of the Raiders or the Cowboys, maybe he's able to
Speaker 2: make some more money there. Because if you listen or
Speaker 2: read what Dion had to say about his conversation with
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones, he sort of implied inferred that he was
Speaker 2: offered the job. Hey, you know, humbled by this, but
Speaker 2: I got unfinished business at Colorado. I don't think there
Speaker 2: was an offer here. It wasn't reported as an offer.
Speaker 2: Dion kind of took it and said, basically, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to take this job right now. I got
Speaker 2: unfinished business. Wait a minute, I didn't offer the job
Speaker 2: to you. Maybe gets around to doing that. Because normally
Speaker 2: when you fire somebody, we always at least think the
Speaker 2: owner has an idea who he's going to bring in.
Speaker 2: I truly believe that the Craft family with the Patriots
Speaker 2: knew they were bringing in Mike Brabel and probably knew
Speaker 2: that in December. They probably knew that a month ago,
Speaker 2: where it's like this is not working out, they would
Speaker 2: have brought in Mike Brabel if they weren't already contractually
Speaker 2: binded with girod Meyo because they wrote it into his
Speaker 2: contract that he would be the successor to Bill Belichick.
Speaker 2: Then I think they quickly realized he was not ready
Speaker 2: to be a head coach. And it goes back to
Speaker 2: what I've said many many times, not every great coordinator,
Speaker 2: good coordinator, deserves to be a head coach. Ben Johnson
Speaker 2: is the object of desire right now. I don't know
Speaker 2: what he's like. I've never heard him interviewed. I don't
Speaker 2: know what it's like when you're up there and you're
Speaker 2: answering questions you just lost a tough game. I don't
Speaker 2: know what kind of culture is he able to be
Speaker 2: around Dan Campbell and go I'm gonna have that same
Speaker 2: culture wherever I go. I don't know is he going.
Speaker 4: To go to the Raiders.
Speaker 2: How does that go with Tom Brady's game this weekend.
Speaker 2: He's got that game, He's got the Lions game of
Speaker 2: the Commanders. What happens if they show Ben Johnson on
Speaker 2: the sideline is Tom Brady, minority owner of the Raiders,
Speaker 2: allowed to talk about Ben Johnson? Does he have any
Speaker 2: inside info, which I would believe he would. I like
Speaker 2: how the NFL makes it seem like this isn't a
Speaker 2: conflict of interest. Seaton brought up something this morning. He said,
Speaker 2: imagine if Jerry Jones was going to be the analyst
Speaker 2: for a game, he'd love that, and he's looking for
Speaker 2: a head coach. Is there a conflict of interest there?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Seen, Yeah, I mean like, could you imagine Robert Kraft
Speaker 7: immediately like, well, you know here, may I really not
Speaker 7: get it done. I think we're going to fire him
Speaker 7: at the end of the game, and that means we're
Speaker 7: open for business.
Speaker 2: But the NFL, you know, the NFL is bending over
Speaker 2: backwards to help Tom. It feels like or looking the
Speaker 2: other way. Conflict of interest, that is what it is.
Speaker 2: And then you go back in the way back machine
Speaker 2: to how they went after Tom, like you know, they
Speaker 2: were going after him in a big time, big way,
Speaker 2: like they were investigating him. Then this is like, you know,
Speaker 2: he's with Fox, He's going to be calling the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Let's play nice. Probably his last year as a broadcaster.
Speaker 2: No conflict of interest here, yes, eaton, I love.
Speaker 7: Like this is such a blatant conflict of interest that's
Speaker 7: right in our faces.
Speaker 2: That makes me wonder what are the other.
Speaker 7: Conflicts of interest that they're also like, Ah, don't worry
Speaker 7: about that, that's no big deal. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 7: Because this one is right in our faces. Everybody could
Speaker 7: see it. There's probably a million more that are behind
Speaker 7: the scenes that they're like, I just wink at that,
Speaker 7: don't worry about that.
Speaker 4: That's fine.
Speaker 2: What about if it's a blowout. Let's say the lines
Speaker 2: are up by twenty one with I don't know, seven
Speaker 2: minutes to go, you got to fill a little time,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you're gonna go, uh well,
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson's gonna get a job Tom somewhere. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: certainly seems like a good candidate to me.
Speaker 5: Anymore on that, Tom.
Speaker 2: No, that's all I have.
Speaker 7: Raiders are looking to hire a new coach sometime before
Speaker 7: the draft.
Speaker 2: That they wait, is that your Tom Brady?
Speaker 7: All of a sudden, he's got a hardcore accent where
Speaker 7: he talks about you know, the podcast for the I
Speaker 7: was talking about the draft on the podcast, whoa What dude.
Speaker 2: Where did that accent come from? I now, now I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be listening for that.
Speaker 6: Yes, Todd or Brady goes the other way and pretends
Speaker 6: he's not interested. It's like, I Ben, everybody's on this
Speaker 6: Ben Johnson bandwagon. I don't know when.
Speaker 5: Everyone that's the reson.
Speaker 6: Then he swoops in at the last minute when everyone
Speaker 6: thinks that the Raiders aren't interesting.
Speaker 2: It's the Ben wagon. I think it's I'm on the
Speaker 2: bedwagon here.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Does he go out of his way to say, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't get it, you know, all right,
Speaker 2: gimme key plays. I don't know if that works consistent.
Speaker 5: Some are just coordinators.
Speaker 6: They're not necessarily going to make great head coaches.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, both or Brady goes the other way.
Speaker 3: Sam Laporta catches like a pass on the I cannot
Speaker 3: wait to see him dial that up for hours next year.
Speaker 5: I can't wait. Like he just puts it all out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, uh so that's no conflict of interest there
Speaker 2: with that game coming up this weekend with the Lions
Speaker 2: and the Commanders. See, now you're going to listen. Now
Speaker 2: we're going to read into how many times do you
Speaker 2: listen to a game where you're going to be reading
Speaker 2: into maybe an ulterior motive. Troy Aikman came out after
Speaker 2: with the last game that he and Joe did and
Speaker 2: said something about the Cowboys job not being a good
Speaker 2: job or desirable. But Troy is not part of the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: or he's not part of another organization ripping the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Tom Is he's got his fingerprints all over this. He's
Speaker 2: going to be making these changes, He's making these decisions,
Speaker 2: but he's also going to be broadcasting a game where
Speaker 2: maybe the number one candidate for the head coaching vacancies
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Speaker 2: in this situation. And if you're betting, the best odds
Speaker 2: according to Vegas, will be the Chiefs and the Lions
Speaker 2: meeting in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Yes, Paul, So as of today, Vegas likes the Eagles
Speaker 3: more than the Lions.
Speaker 2: They no, No, they have the Lions against the Chiefs. Oh,
Speaker 2: and then that's their Chiefs against Yeah, they have the
Speaker 2: Chiefs against the Eagles, got it, And then they had
Speaker 2: the raven No, they really like the Lions because they've
Speaker 2: got them facing the Chiefs and facing the Ravens and
Speaker 2: facing the Bills. So if I'm going to plan this,
Speaker 2: the Bills versus the Lions would be where I would go.
Speaker 2: Somebody's went in a Super Bowl here? Yeah? Is that
Speaker 2: how they sell it? And welcome to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Somebody has to when this game these And can you
Speaker 2: imagine the pain for one of these fan bases if
Speaker 2: Buffalo plays Detroit, which fan base would hurt more if
Speaker 2: they lost this super Oh boy, I'm skewing negative eleven
Speaker 2: minutes in Dang. I started out great with Strawberry Quick,
Speaker 2: then i went to Brady conflict of interest, and now
Speaker 2: I'm talking about pain misery for a fan base. Yes, Paul,
Speaker 2: I think this is a good question.
Speaker 3: And my instant reaction was the Bills would have more pain.
Speaker 3: They've been expecting to get a Super Bowl for the
Speaker 3: past five years. They finally get there. They had the
Speaker 3: zero for four stretch. Lions never even had that stretch,
Speaker 3: and then you lose to the team that's never been there.
Speaker 2: But considering this is recency bias from you just lost
Speaker 2: in dramatic fashion last year, fear of the Lions. So
Speaker 2: it's not like the Buffalo Bills back in the nineties
Speaker 2: when they're losing Super Bowls. It's this is the Lions
Speaker 2: team that's supposed to win the Super Bowl. Are we
Speaker 2: they're the favorites?
Speaker 3: Are we instituting the pain meter as of today?
Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, Seaton, what's the pole question?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Do we want to start out with which fan base
Speaker 2: would suffer more? In a No, I can't do that.
Speaker 2: I can't do that today because that's what we're doing
Speaker 2: By the way, if you're going to be in New
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Speaker 2: pole question we're going with seedon.
Speaker 7: It's definitely one of them.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's for sure.
Speaker 7: Which fan base would suffer more? Or if they lost
Speaker 7: to the Super Bowl? Buffalo Bill's Detroit lyons that is
Speaker 7: a lot of fun. We could also put up there.
Speaker 7: Tom Brady being an NFL broadcaster and owner is a
Speaker 7: massive conflict of interest or no big deal?
Speaker 2: Well, let's go round the room here, because I want
Speaker 2: to be fair to the topic here, Todd, do you
Speaker 2: think it's a conflict of interest that Brady is a
Speaker 2: minority owner while calling games?
Speaker 6: I think it's a conflict of interest, But if the
Speaker 6: phrase is massive conflict of interest, I would lean the
Speaker 6: other way.
Speaker 5: I think it's a conflict of interest.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's a massive conflict.
Speaker 7: In Okay, Seaton, Uh okay, maybe we'll take out massive.
Speaker 7: Then I would say it is a massive conflict of interest. Okay,
Speaker 7: all right then, especially more like the more that it's
Speaker 7: not exactly a new story, but the more that it
Speaker 7: sits with me, and the more that everybody's just kicking
Speaker 7: around head coaching candidates and all this stuff, and you're like,
Speaker 7: you got this dude doing kate.
Speaker 2: This is crazy.
Speaker 7: How in the world could you allow that to happen?
Speaker 2: Conflict of interest?
Speaker 4: As much as I love minority owner in the NFL,
Speaker 4: no conflict of interest.
Speaker 3: No, it is oh, okay, okay, Paully conflict of interest.
Speaker 3: It's the definition of conflict of interest. It's direct. It's
Speaker 3: not even like a layer removed. And what's worse is
Speaker 3: the NFL gave Tom special treatment to make it happen.
Speaker 3: They let him become a broadcaster and approved him becoming
Speaker 3: an owner, which they did not have to do in
Speaker 3: any way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like I they could have kept him in
Speaker 2: the on deck circle before, you know, But I don't
Speaker 2: think the NFL wants him to get out of the
Speaker 2: broadcasting Booth. I think that they want him there. I
Speaker 2: think Fox of course wants him there, and he's going
Speaker 2: to be doing the Super Bowl. But as I've said
Speaker 2: for the last couple of months, it feels like he's
Speaker 2: moving on to something else, and maybe he's won and
Speaker 2: done during these games and he gets to do a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Yes, Paul, it's kind of.
Speaker 3: Like Seaton said, almost jokingly about Jerry Jones. Would they
Speaker 3: make him a broadcaster? If I were an NBA broadcast team,
Speaker 3: I would consider hiring someone like Mark Cuban to be
Speaker 3: on my staff. But the conflict would be he owns
Speaker 3: the Mavericks and you couldn't. But he's a star, he's
Speaker 3: a good guy, he talks well. If I'm a can
Speaker 3: the NBA do this? I don't think they could.
Speaker 2: Well. I think he's now a minority owner with the Mavericks,
Speaker 2: so it would be identical if he was doing games.
Speaker 2: I think Mark sold a good portion of the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 2: I think so.
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Speaker 4: Friend?
Speaker 9: Listen? Forget about five hundred. I'm excited about five oh one.
Speaker 4: All that san far behind me, thankfully. It's been a.
Speaker 9: Dream journey to this point, and they get better every week.
Speaker 9: Buffalo hosting Baltimore this week it's five oh one. I
Speaker 9: can't wait to get there and I'm as always tickle
Speaker 9: to be on with you leading up to it.
Speaker 2: More to gain in your opinion, Josh Allen or Lamar
Speaker 2: Jackson in this.
Speaker 9: Game, and you're going to be talking individual accolades here,
Speaker 9: and I can tell you that knowing both of them
Speaker 9: well enough to know this is all about trying to
Speaker 9: get to the Super Bowl for them. So if you
Speaker 9: say Josh has more to gain, it's only through the
Speaker 9: lens of getting to a super Bowl for him. You
Speaker 9: know he's going to be happy with whatever it takes
Speaker 9: to get there and try to return that franchise for
Speaker 9: the first time in thirty some odd years. But then
Speaker 9: you got Lamaro's had his best year ever doing just
Speaker 9: jaw dropping things as well. But he wants to get
Speaker 9: to a super Bowl. So that's a tough question to
Speaker 9: answer because they both feel like this is the year.
Speaker 9: And I could give you a pretty compelling argument why
Speaker 9: I think either one of them are very capable of
Speaker 9: winning the Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 2: What was it like? Who was jim nance? Game number
Speaker 2: one of the five hundred?
Speaker 9: It was Vinnie Testa Verdi and the Tampa Bay Bucks
Speaker 9: at Chris Chandler in the Indianapolis Colts. The great Pat
Speaker 9: Hayden was with me on the call. It was October
Speaker 9: of nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 4: I was a studio.
Speaker 9: Host for our college football's scoreboard show back in those days,
Speaker 9: the Prudential College Football Report. I worked in the studio
Speaker 9: in New York on Saturday, parachuted in for the game
Speaker 9: on Sunday, doing all my production meetings and all of
Speaker 9: that research by phone. So I didn't have the full
Speaker 9: treatment as you will on most occasions getting ready for
Speaker 9: a game. The night that I flew in after hosting
Speaker 9: the stud udio show was a night that Kurt Gibson
Speaker 9: hit the home run in the World Series. And remember
Speaker 9: you remember the Jack Buck call on the home run.
Speaker 9: I can't believe what.
Speaker 4: I just saw.
Speaker 9: I can't believe what I just saw. Well, last week
Speaker 9: was number five hundred. As I look back at the
Speaker 9: scope of it all and the good fortune I've had
Speaker 9: to be at so many big games in my career,
Speaker 9: I could truly say, just like it was uttered that
Speaker 9: very first weekend for me.
Speaker 4: I can't believe what I just saw.
Speaker 2: When's the last time you had announcer envy?
Speaker 9: I mean, all the time, you know me well enough
Speaker 9: to know that maybe I'll look at things differently. I
Speaker 9: admire so many people in our industry. I know it's
Speaker 9: a competitive business. I've never felt like it from that viewpoint.
Speaker 9: I admire so much many people that I hear and
Speaker 9: listen to. I was watching TGL last night and listen
Speaker 9: to Matt Barry calling golf.
Speaker 4: I knew he is a golf guy.
Speaker 9: I don't know Matt really barely at all, but I
Speaker 9: was admiring what a good job he did.
Speaker 4: You know, it's a tough situation there.
Speaker 9: In a made up environment with golf into a simulator.
Speaker 4: But it's all the time.
Speaker 9: You know, my deep respect for those that came before me,
Speaker 9: and you know that like the Elder Statesman for me
Speaker 9: now is is Al Michaels. And you know, listening to
Speaker 9: Al do a game last week, I just love hearing
Speaker 9: his cadence's voice. He's been such a magnificent friend in
Speaker 9: my life, someone to look up to and still a
Speaker 9: kick every time I talked to him, which is frequently.
Speaker 9: But the other thing that was brought to light last
Speaker 9: week on the five hundred Dan was that in CBS
Speaker 9: has this history with the league where the original network
Speaker 9: partner of the NFL, and go back to the fifties,
Speaker 9: think Alan Amichi, think of that game and the Giants
Speaker 9: in the Baltimore Folts and that was you know, Chris
Speaker 9: Shenko back then. But you look at people that actually
Speaker 9: called games play by play at CBS at some point
Speaker 9: in their careers, includes Al Michaels. Al started at Bob Costas,
Speaker 9: was a play by play announcer for a year or
Speaker 9: two before he went to DC, but Summer all Lundquist
Speaker 9: in Bird the last ten years of his career. Kirk
Speaker 9: Goudy ended his career at CBS. This is a dangerous game,
Speaker 9: by the way, because you start going through all the
Speaker 9: Jim McKay did games for CBS on the NFL. Jack Whittaker,
Speaker 9: of course, Ray Scott, Frank Difford. I mean it is
Speaker 9: a you know, Dick Stockton. People don't realize he called
Speaker 9: the second most NFL games of all time, had a
Speaker 9: great Hall of Fame career. Frank Glieber again and named
Speaker 9: is forgotten, but he was a long time number two
Speaker 9: behind Pat. I felt a little bit of I felt
Speaker 9: connected to them. Last week, I was the first to
Speaker 9: reach five hundred games play by play. Now it was surprising.
Speaker 9: Somebody did the research on it.
Speaker 4: Pat.
Speaker 9: Some are all did seven hundred games in his career.
Speaker 9: Some of them were at Fox, most of them were
Speaker 9: at CBS, but some of them were as an analyst
Speaker 9: when we were young kids. So his play by play
Speaker 9: numbers at CBS never reached five hundred. And I just
Speaker 9: felt honored to take the torch and try to run
Speaker 9: with it instead a new mark, and then, you know what,
Speaker 9: I had enough of it.
Speaker 4: It's been discussed.
Speaker 9: I'm honored and plattered be given the chance, and I'm
Speaker 9: ready to go do five oh one this week, five
Speaker 9: oh two next week, and put the fanfare behind me
Speaker 9: and go watch some great games.
Speaker 2: Is there an emergency? I don't want to jinx. You guys,
Speaker 2: an emergency plan if you're not able to do the
Speaker 2: game at the Super Bowl, there is.
Speaker 9: I've never seen an emergency plan put in place in
Speaker 9: advance of that. But we're worry warts. Those of us
Speaker 9: who make are living with our voices. And you know,
Speaker 9: when I've worked as many weeks in a year as
Speaker 9: I have for thirty seven years, I was working coast
Speaker 9: of forty eight weeks a year between college basketball, the NFL,
Speaker 9: and golf. So of course you're going to have your
Speaker 9: battles along the way with a cold or the flu,
Speaker 9: and how are you going to get through it? You know,
Speaker 9: you worry yourself about being around anyone who is sick.
Speaker 9: My little boy and I have a young son, Jamison.
Speaker 9: He had the sniffles last night. He said he had
Speaker 9: a sore throat. I mean, it's just I had all
Speaker 9: the guardrails up, still trying to interact, put him to bed,
Speaker 9: say his prayers, sing a nighttime song, and I thankful
Speaker 9: he felt better this morning. But I started to do
Speaker 9: the map on it. Two days from now, I could
Speaker 9: have whatever he is starting to come down with. And
Speaker 9: I'm going to go into this weekend compromise.
Speaker 4: But we we do. We do find a way to
Speaker 4: survive it.
Speaker 9: Anything that's you know, short of laryngiatis, we're pretty much
Speaker 9: gonna tough it out. I could hear in Troy Aikman's
Speaker 9: voice the other night. I could hear something was going
Speaker 9: on with him. There was a hoarseness that I know.
Speaker 9: He wasn't one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: He's Jim Nantz, the Hall of Famer. He'll be on
Speaker 2: the call five oh one. Don't bring up five hundred
Speaker 2: to him. It's the Ravens and the Bills. The AFC
Speaker 2: Divisional playoffs. Go back to the last time the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl was in New Orleans, and when you first got
Speaker 2: an inkling that there was an issue with the power outage,
Speaker 2: he did, I.
Speaker 9: Gotta give it to your brother. You come up with
Speaker 9: the best questions. It's just no one, no one like you.
Speaker 9: So obviously I'm not ready for that answer if I
Speaker 9: wanted to really give it a thought. But it's just easy, okay.
Speaker 9: I was there with Phil Simps. It was like nine
Speaker 9: thirty eight to go in the third quarter. The Ravens
Speaker 9: had the football at roughly their own forty three yard line,
Speaker 9: and there was a black O handoff and there was
Speaker 9: a run up the middle, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 9: all my monitors went this black, complete dark, and in
Speaker 9: my headset, I can't hear me finishing the call. I
Speaker 9: was in the middle of a call, so I just
Speaker 9: thought there was a power surge in the booth. But
Speaker 9: you know, right after that, of course, in a millisec
Speaker 9: you realize the lights are out, the whole thing's coming down,
Speaker 9: the whole broadcast is probably off the air. I mean
Speaker 9: it took you had to do some quick processing about
Speaker 9: what was happening. So I have no link to the truck.
Speaker 9: I can't hear from the producers. I don't have any
Speaker 9: visual cues. We're all in the dark, figuratively and literally.
Speaker 9: But my cell phone was work king, So I called
Speaker 9: Lance Berrow, our producer in the truck. Now that was
Speaker 9: a dumb thing to do, because he was just as
Speaker 9: I'm sure it is, more in the center of the
Speaker 9: storm than I was. But he didn't pick up. But
Speaker 9: I was trying to just hey, what's going on? And
Speaker 9: then I thought, let me call Melissa. You guys all
Speaker 9: know Melissa. She's been my chief of staff or a
Speaker 9: quarter of a century. And I called her cell phone
Speaker 9: and said what in the world is happening right now?
Speaker 9: And she explained that we were knocked off the air.
Speaker 9: You know, you had all kinds of really not so
Speaker 9: good thoughts at that point. This is twenty thirteen. You know,
Speaker 9: you're wondering if is it a terrorist attack? You hate
Speaker 9: to even say it, but you don't know what it is.
Speaker 9: And as you know, it took thirty five minutes before
Speaker 9: everything was restored, and that overshadowed really what was a
Speaker 9: compelling game right down to the wire. People forget San
Speaker 9: Francisco had four plays inside the ten yard line last
Speaker 9: minute to try to win the game, four incompletions, Kaepernick
Speaker 9: on three of them to Michael Crabtree, all defended and incomplete.
Speaker 9: It was a game that was in the thirties. It
Speaker 9: was a one score game, and no one remembers that.
Speaker 9: All they remember is the night the lights went out
Speaker 9: in New Orleans.
Speaker 2: I also remember Steve Tasker being pressed into service as
Speaker 2: sort of the guy on duty. He was like the
Speaker 2: night watchman and his microphone was working and he kind
Speaker 2: of was hosting the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: We could not find well.
Speaker 9: First off, the studio show is in one of those
Speaker 9: collapsible sets that takes four or five minutes to get
Speaker 9: it standing, and Jab and all the crew were hurriedly
Speaker 9: getting into place. But you were looking for someone to
Speaker 9: be able to be on mike and to help carry
Speaker 9: the moment. And Phil and I had no line of communication.
Speaker 9: We're still out and Steve, Steve filled in brilliantly.
Speaker 2: You got paid for a full game, though, didn't you.
Speaker 9: You know I should go back and look at it.
Speaker 9: But can I tell you a secret. Honestly, I would
Speaker 9: pay to do the game. That's the dirty little secret.
Speaker 9: I can say it now that I've got a long
Speaker 9: term contract, and I'm you know what, I've always been
Speaker 9: forth right about it.
Speaker 2: I would do all of this for free, Romos.
Speaker 9: I mean, as long as I could have a house
Speaker 9: and be able to provide for my kids and everything.
Speaker 4: It's never what it's about.
Speaker 9: It's about, well, partly, it's about fulfilling the big part
Speaker 9: of the fulfilling the childhood dream to be a voice,
Speaker 9: not to be the story, but to be the story
Speaker 9: teller and be able to attend these events. And you know,
Speaker 9: it's it's all. It's all a gift. It's about legacy too, Dan.
Speaker 9: That's why when I look at happening sometimes in sport.
Speaker 9: Let's take what's going on in golf, and some have
Speaker 9: left the PGA tour. I'm not going to get deeply
Speaker 9: into all of that, but you have to make a
Speaker 9: legacy decision at some point. You know, you've been blessed
Speaker 9: enough to be given the chance, and you probably made
Speaker 9: a few bucks along the way.
Speaker 4: What is it really about for you? Well, it's about
Speaker 4: being able to say that you've lived out your dream
Speaker 4: and this is what you did. It's about legacy, and
Speaker 4: that's how I feel about it now that I'm.
Speaker 9: Reaching these certain milestones. They come a little bit more
Speaker 9: frequently with long devity, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: These days.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Tony Romo get his thoughts. Tony Jim
Speaker 2: says that he would work for free. How about you,
Speaker 2: would you work for free?
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, Tony, I've certainly made enough money all
Speaker 7: this time away. Yeah, I think I can provide for
Speaker 7: myself in about thirty seven thousand other families. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: I think I would.
Speaker 9: Okay, it's great to get Tony engaged in the show
Speaker 9: right now.
Speaker 4: He's my guy. I love it.
Speaker 2: Tell Tony now, if Romo can't do it, Seaton, I
Speaker 2: think could be his understudy.
Speaker 5: I don't know what am I gonna do? You want
Speaker 5: to run it here, you want to what would you
Speaker 5: do to.
Speaker 4: Dayton? Why don't you make way up to uh? In
Speaker 4: the bullpen by guy?
Speaker 2: I'd love it. I'd love it.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: If you look back, though, can you extract one moment
Speaker 2: that that would stand alone over everything else that you've done.
Speaker 2: When you speak a legacy, one moment, whether it's football, basketball,
Speaker 2: or Dolph.
Speaker 9: That's when you're talking about one event, one game call,
Speaker 9: or one thing that I had. Well, the most special
Speaker 9: thing of all will always be April twelfth, nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 4: Nothing had ever topped that for me. Well, I get
Speaker 4: there is one thing.
Speaker 9: I don't get to that maybe in a second here,
Speaker 9: But that was when my old dorm suitet mate at
Speaker 9: the University of Houston Bread Couples, won the Masters.
Speaker 4: We used to have.
Speaker 9: These crazy dreams that one day he was going to
Speaker 9: win the Masters, that that was all about legacy for him,
Speaker 9: that was his life goal. And of course by this time,
Speaker 9: first day I show up on campus, I make the
Speaker 9: declaration that one day I want to work for CBS,
Speaker 9: Like that's going to happen. Fortunately, it did, and blessedly
Speaker 9: it did for me. But his dream was to win
Speaker 9: the Masters. My dream was to one day broadcast the Masters,
Speaker 9: and I also wanted the broadcasts for CBS because I
Speaker 9: love the way they presented the NFL raised on a
Speaker 9: heavy diet of let's say, summer all in Brookshire, summer
Speaker 9: all in Madden. So in our dorm room, you know
Speaker 9: the story Dan, not every day, but on a couple
Speaker 9: of occasions, along with Blaine McCallister, our great roommate, who
Speaker 9: had a spectacular career, won five times on the tour himself,
Speaker 9: we used to practice the green Jackets ceremony, just kids
Speaker 9: make believe, dreaming, just imagining something, opening up your mind,
Speaker 9: what that moment could be like. And I'm sitting there
Speaker 9: in a dorm room, room one oh one, Tom Hall Taub.
Speaker 9: It's now been raised, but there we are. Fred's sitting
Speaker 9: across from me, and we're doing an imaginary interview. He's
Speaker 9: just won the Masters, and I'm hosting the presentation. So
Speaker 9: in nineteen ninety two, that actually happened, except we weren't
Speaker 9: in dorm room. We were in Butler Cabin and the
Speaker 9: world was watching. So how do you beat that? There's
Speaker 9: only one way that that could ever be better for me,
Speaker 9: and that is that's when my son Jamison wins the
Speaker 9: Masters and he comes in the Butler cabin and I
Speaker 9: say hello son and goodbye friends.
Speaker 4: That will be it. That's the last show.
Speaker 2: Not to play, to walk off on them.
Speaker 9: But I mean, that's how outrageous it would have to
Speaker 9: be to better that moment for me. But other than that, listen,
Speaker 9: last year's Super Bowl, you know, went three second shy
Speaker 9: of five full quarters. The most watched television show in
Speaker 9: the history of American television by a lot, not by
Speaker 9: like one percent, by twelve percent.
Speaker 4: Two hundred and three million Americans watched it one time.
Speaker 9: Normally I don't even care about that, But now that
Speaker 9: we were walking around with the belt, the championship belt,
Speaker 9: I'm making believe here now it was a great game
Speaker 9: the broadcast. Thankfully for our production team, it won the Emmy.
Speaker 9: So proud of the thousand people that presented that that
Speaker 9: day and in all those years of doing the NCAA Tournament,
Speaker 9: there are just too many to isolate. And back at
Speaker 9: that little place in Augusta, Georgia, Tiger nineteen ninety seven,
Speaker 9: a win for the ages pass forward to twenty nineteen.
Speaker 9: This scene plays out again, the return to glory, and
Speaker 9: Tiger is walking off the green and he's hugging Charlie,
Speaker 9: his son. It's a perfect and perfect symmetry with the
Speaker 9: scene we had seen twenty two years before, when Tiger
Speaker 9: walked off the green breaking all the records in the
Speaker 9: history of augusta youngest champion, largest margin of victory, the
Speaker 9: seventy two hole scoring record, the youngest ever. And there
Speaker 9: was Earl, his dad. If you GPSD it, I would
Speaker 9: say that it happened on the exact same spot Earl
Speaker 9: hug Tiger. Twenty two years later, Tiger hugs Charlie. It
Speaker 9: went from a father to a son, and now the
Speaker 9: son's the father and he's having the same moment with
Speaker 9: his son. If you're in the storytelling business, it's about
Speaker 9: as rich as it gets, about as high drama as
Speaker 9: it gets. You know, thankfully we're on camera. As you know,
Speaker 9: there are shedding a few silent tears along the way.
Speaker 9: Is all that's happening. If you have a heartbeat, you
Speaker 9: realize the gravity.
Speaker 4: Of that moment.
Speaker 2: Great to reminisce.
Speaker 9: I love reminiscing with you. You know I'm wearing something here.
Speaker 9: I just I know they've got a lot going on
Speaker 9: out there. But this is Bellair Country Club's shields, okay,
Speaker 9: and Owl's a part of that. I've been fortunate to
Speaker 9: be a part of that club for a long time
Speaker 9: as a member.
Speaker 4: We have a lot.
Speaker 9: Of our families out there that have lost their homes.
Speaker 9: It's it's a lot. It's there are many many unfortunately
Speaker 9: lived in the Palisades and what's going on in LA.
Speaker 9: I don't want the story to just we get numb
Speaker 9: to things like this. These are families, these are people,
Speaker 9: lives were but the twenty six is the.
Speaker 4: Death toll now.
Speaker 9: And I'm just as I said signing off on Sunday
Speaker 9: from Buffalo after the Buffalo Denver game, LA, We're thinking
Speaker 9: of you, we're praying for you, and really tough times.
Speaker 9: So we're out here talking fun and games. That's real life.
Speaker 9: And people's whole entire lives have been uprooted life savings,
Speaker 9: you know, starting from scratch in the middle of their
Speaker 9: lives and maybe later in their business careers whatever.
Speaker 4: It's all gone.
Speaker 9: And it's not just because it's three days and retired
Speaker 9: to the story. Let's move on to something else. It's
Speaker 9: real and I'm just thinking of all my families out
Speaker 9: there that I know, many of whom you would know, Dan,
Speaker 9: and it's just indescribable.
Speaker 2: Have fun this weekend. Thanks for joining us. As always,
Speaker 2: I'm coming to see you the summer. By the way,
Speaker 2: I'm on your door up there. Hello.
Speaker 4: Okay, I know where you are.
Speaker 2: Now do you want to come in for a meet Friday.
Speaker 4: Into that studio right there?
Speaker 2: Well, this is Maine, now that's what.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about. I'm going to make it this summer.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well it's it's not Butler's cabin, it's Danny's cabin.
Speaker 2: But we'd love to have you. That's awesome.
Speaker 4: I don't need to be on the air. If you
Speaker 4: need an emergency, you talk about emergency fill in. If
Speaker 4: maybe a guest doesn't show up, I'll pop on for
Speaker 4: five minutes. But I'd like to see the studio.
Speaker 9: But better than that, i'd like to go out and
Speaker 9: have a lunch with you afterwards, so I'll find you.
Speaker 2: Sounds great.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thanks, Dan, all the best.
Speaker 2: That's Jim NaN's Hall of Famer.
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Speaker 2: So we just played in or out as we welcome
Speaker 2: in Robert Griffin Junior the third to play in or Out.
Speaker 2: You can check out out of Pocket with RG three
Speaker 2: on YouTube wherever you get your podcast. Good to talk
Speaker 2: to you again. All right, are you in or out?
Speaker 2: Sam Donald staying with the Vikings?
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, I mean I'm out. I'm out on that
Speaker 10: JJ McCarthy. You know, I you know, if people tend
Speaker 10: to forget about JJ, but I was a huge JJ
Speaker 10: guy coming out. I know why NFL coaches love him.
Speaker 10: He can make the practical plays. He's not a stat merchant,
Speaker 10: he's not worried about those types of things. But he
Speaker 10: can also make the off schedule play and has the
Speaker 10: athleticism and mobility that you look for. Sam Donald, in
Speaker 10: my opinion, I don't think that his fall off was
Speaker 10: as big dan as people are making it out to be.
Speaker 10: I think the eighteen weeks of the season or the
Speaker 10: seventeen weeks of the.
Speaker 11: Season that he played well still are gonna, you know,
Speaker 11: help him in free agency.
Speaker 10: But I do not think that he'll be back with Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Are you in or out that the Cowboys Dun Sanders
Speaker 2: story is a real story.
Speaker 11: I'm in with an asterisk.
Speaker 10: I've talked to Dion and I knew this months ago
Speaker 10: that the only way he'll go to the NFL is
Speaker 10: if he has an opportunity to coach his sons, and
Speaker 10: he's been very adamant about that recently. It wasn't my
Speaker 10: information to share at the time, but I don't think
Speaker 10: he's gonna go to the NFL just to be an
Speaker 10: NFL coach, and he doesn't want to chase after his sons.
Speaker 10: He's set them up to be in a position where
Speaker 10: they can be highly drafted. If you're Shader and Shallah
Speaker 10: will have a chance to go play in the NFL
Speaker 10: as well.
Speaker 11: But I'm in.
Speaker 10: I think he's the best option and Dan I got
Speaker 10: to say, I was the first person to say it
Speaker 10: when it wasn't popular last year on the SETTM on
Speaker 10: a Night Countdown.
Speaker 11: So I'm in on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've been saying all along that I thought that there
Speaker 2: was something up with him with the Raiders. If they
Speaker 2: were going to get the number one pick and Dion
Speaker 2: could have gone there and taken his son number one,
Speaker 2: could you have seen that scenario because I thought that
Speaker 2: since Tom got in there as the part time owner,
Speaker 2: minority owner.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I thought for sure, And I know that Dion,
Speaker 10: you know, he's very supportive of other coaches, and this
Speaker 10: is something that I'm not sure people really pay attention
Speaker 10: to a ton where it was Kenny Dillingham at Arizona State,
Speaker 10: where there's Marcus Freeman, where there's Mike Vick in his
Speaker 10: situation Inofolk State. He's very supportive coach of other coaches,
Speaker 10: and he didn't want to undercut Antonio Pierce. So I
Speaker 10: remember they were at that banquet a few weeks ago
Speaker 10: when Peerce was the coach, and he was like, hey
Speaker 10: draft my son blah blah blah, because he wants his
Speaker 10: son to be in a situation that, you know, Tom
Speaker 10: Brady being there have an influence mentoring Shador would be great.
Speaker 11: So I was in on that as well.
Speaker 10: I didn't think that Dallas was the only place that
Speaker 10: Dion could go and be a head coach in the NFL,
Speaker 10: but I did think that before this season they should
Speaker 10: have fired Mike McCarthy and hired Dion to bring an
Speaker 10: identity and a culture there to Dallas that he's brought
Speaker 10: to it with him to Jackson State and now also
Speaker 10: to Colorado.
Speaker 2: All Right, are you in or out Shadore pulling in
Speaker 2: Eli Manning Tennessee or Cleveland? Where to draft him? Man?
Speaker 11: I think I'd be in.
Speaker 10: I'd be in because at the end of the day,
Speaker 10: I'm a player empowerment guy.
Speaker 11: And it's funny.
Speaker 10: Because last year I said that Caleb william should have
Speaker 10: pulled an Ali Manning on the Chicago Bears, and a
Speaker 10: lot of people got upset with me. But Dan, I
Speaker 10: don't know if you noticed, I ended up being right
Speaker 10: about that. And the bottom line is structure matters, who
Speaker 10: the coach is matters, who you have around you matters.
Speaker 10: And if Shadur, because he's a grown man, feels that
Speaker 10: Tennessee or Cleveland are not the right place for him,
Speaker 10: then that's his decision to make. I, for one, believe
Speaker 10: that they're not.
Speaker 11: The right place for him, So I'd be in on that.
Speaker 2: Who more to gain from a win this weekend in
Speaker 2: Buffalo with Josh Allen Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 10: I think Lamar Jackson has more to gain if you
Speaker 10: look at their playoff numbers. Josh Allen has a quarterback
Speaker 10: rating over one hundred, and his krypt Knit has really
Speaker 10: been Patrick Mahomes and the knsas City chiefs Lamar Krypton
Speaker 10: Knight has been his second playoff game and just his
Speaker 10: success in the playoffs altogether.
Speaker 11: So I think if Lamar.
Speaker 10: Loses, you will see or should I say the Baltimore
Speaker 10: Ravens lose, because quarterbacks don't win lose games. But if
Speaker 10: the Ravens lose, you'll see a lot of people come
Speaker 10: out and destroy and destroyer Lamar Jackson. And in this case,
Speaker 10: I would I would have to agree that it's warranted.
Speaker 10: This is an MVP showdown. And then I wish I
Speaker 10: wish the trophy was on the line in this game
Speaker 10: because that would be just add so much more intrigue
Speaker 10: to it. But I do think Lamar has more to lose.
Speaker 10: But I don't think the game comes down to Lamar Josh.
Speaker 10: I think it comes down to Derreck Henry and James Cook.
Speaker 10: And that's I believe that's the matchup between those two
Speaker 10: in the offense, two lines up front will determine who
Speaker 10: wins the game.
Speaker 2: Talking to r G three, fill in the blank, Justin
Speaker 2: Herbert is blank.
Speaker 10: Justin Herbert is Philip Rivers. That's what he is right now,
Speaker 10: and Philip Rivers it is a compliment. Dan, would you
Speaker 10: would you love to have the career that Philip Rivers had?
Speaker 2: Compared to who?
Speaker 10: I'm asking you just as a as a fan, as
Speaker 10: a guy who's covered the game, would you love to
Speaker 10: have the career that Philip Rivers had?
Speaker 2: I would take Joe Flacco's over Philip Rivers, but should
Speaker 2: not answer the question. Would you I think that most
Speaker 2: I would take Philip Rivers career?
Speaker 11: Yes, I think most fans would would take Philip Rivers career.
Speaker 10: So when you say is it a compliment, I'm saying
Speaker 10: it just depends on who you what you're how you're
Speaker 10: looking at this. Is it a compliment to or is
Speaker 10: it would you rather have Philip rivers career.
Speaker 11: Or Peyton Manning's career? Paid Manning?
Speaker 10: So for Justin Herbert, he has to decide at some
Speaker 10: point it can't be everybody else's issue anymore. He's had
Speaker 10: three head coaches and four offensive coordinators. Every single coach
Speaker 10: he's had has been blamed for his lack of success.
Speaker 10: In the playoffs, he throws four interceptions, not every single
Speaker 10: one of them were on him. I'm not going to
Speaker 10: go so far as to say that he is not
Speaker 10: a good quarterback, because he is a good quarterback, but
Speaker 10: at some point when it's nut cutting time, he has
Speaker 10: to step up in the playoffs, and it can't be well,
Speaker 10: it was this coach's fault or that coordinator didn't get
Speaker 10: it done. And now I'm hearing people talk about Greg
Speaker 10: Roman again and how Greg.
Speaker 11: Roman is the issue. He didn't do this, he didn't
Speaker 11: do that.
Speaker 2: And I just looked at him and say, Herbert is
Speaker 2: not blaming the media is making excuses for Justin Herbert.
Speaker 11: And I agree that.
Speaker 10: I want to be very clear there, Justin Herbert took
Speaker 10: full accountability and responsibility after the game for how he played.
Speaker 10: This is not a Justin Herbert things. It's more of
Speaker 10: a US thing. Right in the media, We're all in
Speaker 10: this together. We got to be able to hold him
Speaker 10: accountable to the same lengths that we hold Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 10: Dak Prescott or even Peyton Manning when he was early
Speaker 10: in his career didn't have a ton of playoff success.
Speaker 10: Herbert is now in that realm where he's gonna make
Speaker 10: a decision if is he gonna be Philip rivers or
Speaker 10: is he gonna be able to turn the corner and
Speaker 10: be a Peyton Manning type.
Speaker 2: But I think when you lumped him in with Dak
Speaker 2: Prescott and Lamar Jackson, to me, they shouldn't be lumped
Speaker 2: in because Dak is the quarterback of the Cowboys. Yes,
Speaker 2: always going to get more credit and more blame always.
Speaker 2: Lamar's a two time MVP and hasn't done anything in
Speaker 2: the postseason. Justin Herbert, I think is propped up by
Speaker 2: a portion of the media that wants him to be
Speaker 2: a great quarterback. He's not a great quarterback. Lamar's won
Speaker 2: two MVPs. He has got to perform in the postseason.
Speaker 2: That's what we expect that MVPs. And Dak you know,
Speaker 2: you walk into that position and you know you're going
Speaker 2: to get criticized. And Dak has not really done much.
Speaker 2: And now he's thirty two coming off hamstring surgery and
Speaker 2: so he can't he's injury prone, in immobile. And now
Speaker 2: whoever takes over the Cowboys inherits that that's that's not
Speaker 2: a good recipe there.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And you're talking about my tweet from a couple
Speaker 10: of days ago when the when the Chargers lost. And
Speaker 10: the reason I I, Mike and Dave you know Anita
Speaker 10: wedding date, lumped them all in together is because, yes,
Speaker 10: I can understand the Lamar Jackson piece.
Speaker 11: Two. Yeah, you like that movie reference. It's a great movie.
Speaker 11: I don't know why people don't like it.
Speaker 2: It's a great movie.
Speaker 10: I understand the Lamar Jackson piece, the two time MVP.
Speaker 10: But now we're just creating these subcategories for well, we're
Speaker 10: gonna criticize this guy, but not this guy. Lamar's success
Speaker 10: in the playoffs or lack thereof, or of how he's played,
Speaker 10: he still made it to an AFC Championship game. Justin
Speaker 10: Herbert hasn't even sniffed that. So when you look at
Speaker 10: Dak Prescott and what he's been able to do, Yeah,
Speaker 10: as the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys, that's awesome. But
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna subdivide that and say I'm gonna give
Speaker 10: Dak more criticism just.
Speaker 11: Because he's a quarterback of the Cowboys.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna give Lamar more criticism despite the fact that
Speaker 10: he's done more than almost every quarterback in his draft
Speaker 10: class when it comes to his success on the field.
Speaker 10: Justin Herbert has unbelievable stats. You probably know all of
Speaker 10: the NFL records that he's broken, from passing yards to
Speaker 10: passing touchdowns to wins and everything in between. I do
Speaker 10: think he is a great quarterback. The question is is
Speaker 10: he a clutch quarterback when it matters? And right now
Speaker 10: he hasn't been. And for that, to me, it's you
Speaker 10: either give everybody grace and you say, hey, it took
Speaker 10: Steve Young seven eight years to figure it out, it
Speaker 10: took Manning eight nine years to figure it out, or
Speaker 10: you make sure you criticize them all at the same level,
Speaker 10: because quarterbacks always get the most praise and they always
Speaker 10: get the more criticism, right, more praise than they deserve,
Speaker 10: more criticism they deserved. We can't create these subcategories and say,
Speaker 10: all right, well, we're not gonna go after Justin Herbert
Speaker 10: just because he's not the quarterback of the Cowboys and
Speaker 10: he's not a two time MVP.
Speaker 2: But who's not going after him?
Speaker 10: Do you think Justin Herbert gets the same amount of
Speaker 10: criticism that Lamar Jackson does or Dak Prescott, or.
Speaker 11: To a tongue of.
Speaker 2: Lamar is a two time MVP.
Speaker 11: What about to a tongue of a LA. Let's take
Speaker 11: let's take Lamar out of it. Do you think do
Speaker 11: you think Justin Herbert gets the same criticism as to
Speaker 11: a tongue of by law?
Speaker 2: Tua gets a whole passed because of his health.
Speaker 11: Tua does not get a hall passed that they had
Speaker 11: a whole good can't makes right?
Speaker 2: He Do you think that he's a great quarterback?
Speaker 11: I do, and I think he's the perfect quarterback for
Speaker 11: Mike McDaniels offense.
Speaker 2: Why would Tyreek wan out if you've got this great
Speaker 2: quarterback there?
Speaker 10: Well, Tyreek probably one out because Tyreek wants to win
Speaker 10: Super Bowls and.
Speaker 2: You can't do that with Tua.
Speaker 11: I think you can. But Tua was banged up.
Speaker 2: This year and two is gonna be banged up. We
Speaker 2: hold our breath. I think that we we hold our
Speaker 2: breath with him. I don't think people are critical of him.
Speaker 2: I don't really nowhere near no, nowhere near the other quarterback. No,
Speaker 2: we got a whole pass. He got a whole pass
Speaker 2: because of his health. What were his numbers this year?
Speaker 2: What did he do this year? What did the Dolphins
Speaker 2: do this year?
Speaker 10: Well, he showed that he's the he's the MVP of
Speaker 10: the Dolphins because when he was out they couldn't sniff
Speaker 10: a win. But then when he came back, he actually
Speaker 10: helped them get back into playoff contention and have a
Speaker 10: chance at the end of the season to make the
Speaker 10: actual playoffs.
Speaker 2: So so if they said you're gonna have to of
Speaker 2: moving forward or Justin Herbert, who would take?
Speaker 11: Yeah? I hate that question, Dan.
Speaker 2: Dammit, you set it up.
Speaker 11: I didn't set it up. You set it up. You're
Speaker 11: just Dolphins ID I did bring in to her I
Speaker 11: did if I had, if I had.
Speaker 10: If I had to pick, if I had to pick,
Speaker 10: I'm I'm taking I'm taking to a talking about law.
Speaker 11: I am I'm taking to over Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2: I don't you don't believe that?
Speaker 4: You do?
Speaker 9: Believe?
Speaker 2: Not believe. Let's go around the room. Who believes that
Speaker 2: r G three is telling me the truth? Todd? Do
Speaker 2: you think he's telling the truth?
Speaker 5: I think he is.
Speaker 2: Oh, suck up appreciation, Tod. My god, see you think
Speaker 2: RG three is telling me the truth? I do? I
Speaker 2: believe he's telling you the truth? Yes, oh my god.
Speaker 10: Now the question, Dan, the better question is would they
Speaker 10: take to over Justin? Because I don't think a lot
Speaker 10: of people would I think. I think from watching the
Speaker 10: tape and watching the two guys play, if health is
Speaker 10: not an issue, because health is an issue for both
Speaker 10: of them, Let's be honest, well.
Speaker 2: Really an issue for two. It's really an issue for two.
Speaker 10: If you could guarantee that Tua never gets another concussion,
Speaker 10: I'm taking to Yeah, but I can't do that.
Speaker 2: That's part of what you take. Paulie, you want to
Speaker 2: call out RG three.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Robert was lying to you. His voice went up
Speaker 5: three octaves. I believe it. I believe it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, yeah, Paulie used to work for the FBI
Speaker 2: giving light detector tests. Yeah, he's calling you out before
Speaker 2: I let you go. Whenever I read we not whenever,
Speaker 2: but a lot of times I'll read about Jaden Daniels
Speaker 2: and then there'll be the cautionary tale where they bring
Speaker 2: up you that you know you had this meteoric rise,
Speaker 2: you were Jaden Daniels before him. But is it fair
Speaker 2: to bring you up? Is it cautionary tale? Yes, playing
Speaker 2: for the same franchise of getting hurt or putting yourself
Speaker 2: at risk with the way you play.
Speaker 10: No, I don't think it's fair at all. I don't
Speaker 10: think it's fair to Jayden. I don't think it's fair
Speaker 10: to the commander's organization because there's this thing that I
Speaker 10: said in the off season. I got much maligned for
Speaker 10: about the Chicago Bears and how their structure wasn't conducive
Speaker 10: to a young quarterback being successful, and the caveat to that,
Speaker 10: or should I say the example off of that, was
Speaker 10: how well Washington was built. New head coach, new GM,
Speaker 10: new ownership, new offensive coordinator that knew how to utilize
Speaker 10: a mobile, duel threat, triple threat quarterback like Jayden Daniels,
Speaker 10: and veteran leadership on the team, bringing in Bobby Wagner,
Speaker 10: having Austin Eckler in the running back room, Brian Robinson
Speaker 10: being a bulldozing ram.
Speaker 11: Having Scary Terry at wide receiver. All of those.
Speaker 10: Things made Washington's situation so much better. And when you
Speaker 10: look at my situation when I came out as a rookie,
Speaker 10: I was with an owner in Dan Snyder and a
Speaker 10: head coach and Mike Shanahan who were feuding.
Speaker 11: I did not know that at the time.
Speaker 10: I was just a young twenty two year old kid,
Speaker 10: but there was not the uniformity throughout the organization that
Speaker 10: Washington has now. And that's why I always say organizations
Speaker 10: and NFL teams screw up more young quarterbacks than they.
Speaker 11: Actually helped succeed.
Speaker 10: But she got to hit it at the right time,
Speaker 10: and right now, Jayden Daniels in Washington hit it at
Speaker 10: the exact right time. They take care of him. They've
Speaker 10: removed the dark cloud from the organization. Everyone style though, Roberts, No,
Speaker 10: that's what I feel. I'm with you, But the style
Speaker 10: that his style of play and where you play and
Speaker 10: who you're playing with all matters. That's what I'm trying
Speaker 10: to say. Listen, I can't go back and have Heloly
Speaker 10: Nada not hit me in my knee against the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 10: I can't do that. There's no way for me to
Speaker 10: do that. I think you could have. I mean, he couldn't.
Speaker 10: He could have not hit me and.
Speaker 4: The way that he did.
Speaker 10: But that's a conversation for another time, Okay, and I
Speaker 10: could and I and Dan I could have done a
Speaker 10: much better job in my career of protecting myself.
Speaker 11: I think that's very well documented.
Speaker 10: I think what you'll see from Jadon Daniels if you
Speaker 10: watch the tape is that he has done a much
Speaker 10: better job protecting himself, getting down, sliding, avoiding some of
Speaker 10: those That the.
Speaker 2: Point I wanted, that's I wanted to make. I didn't
Speaker 2: think it was fair to keep bringing you into this
Speaker 2: because I do think he runs differently. He is protecting himself.
Speaker 2: There were times when you took on contact. But I'm
Speaker 2: watching Jaydan Daniels not going well, when's he gonna be
Speaker 2: RG three? Because I think you guys, while having similar traits,
Speaker 2: you're different quarterbacks and it's a different era, it's a
Speaker 2: different organization. So that's the only reason when I brought
Speaker 2: that up.
Speaker 10: By no, no, I, I I not rupt, Sorry, Bed,
Speaker 10: I'm saying that his style of play and how.
Speaker 11: He's utilized matters. Okay, this is this is about Jayden
Speaker 11: and Daniels.
Speaker 10: This is not about me, but all of those factors
Speaker 10: that went into why where I was playing and what
Speaker 10: was going on and.
Speaker 11: How I was utilized matter.
Speaker 10: Cliff Kingsbury is utilizing Jayden and Daniels better than I
Speaker 10: was utilized when I was a young quarterback, and I
Speaker 10: think that matters, and how they're doing it.
Speaker 2: And the field's in better shape for chating Davis. That's
Speaker 2: a good one.
Speaker 11: That's a good one.
Speaker 4: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: He's r G three. Check out his podcast out of
Speaker 2: Pocket with a with r G three on YouTube, wherever
Speaker 2: you get your podcast. Great to catch up with you.
Speaker 11: Thanks, appreciate your brother, God bless thank you man.