1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 1: What's this season been like? 2 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: Right? Tough? You know, I mean the obvious, right, I 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: mean it's anytime you you know, you don't have a 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 2: winning record and you're not playing for playoff run or 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: playing for a playoff run. Yeah, it's frustrating, you know, 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: so especially after the season we had last year, it 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: was really fun towards the back end of the year 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: just to be in the talks for you know, and 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: just not having that opportunity this year. As far as 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: getting ready for playoffs is, you know, it's always difficult. 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: You've been here for tough years before. 12 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: But does leg you mentioned last year, does it almost 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 3: set you up, almost tease you a little bit? You 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: had that taste last week and then you come into 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 3: this year kind of expecting, I don't want to say 16 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 3: a continuation, but the expectations were higher. 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and that's this league. You know, every year 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: is a new year and you have to approach it 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: as such, and as we move from one year to 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: the next, that part of it has to be understood. 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: You know. There's nothing given. You know, you look at 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: our schedule early in the year. It was a tough schedule, 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: you know, and you know we had some injuries early 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: that kind of sat us back a little bit, but 25 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: that's just part of the part of the NFL. That's 26 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: life in the NFL. You know, you got to be 27 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: able to work through those ebbs and flows, you know, 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: of the league from week to week, and you know, 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: that's that's just life in the NFL. 30 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: How do you evaluate that's a broad question. I know, 31 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: with just the special teams play kind of overall the season. 32 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: I think we're up and down. You know, we we 33 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 2: didn't start fast like we wanted to. You know, last 34 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: year we had you know, we had pretty big splash 35 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: plays early in the year, and obviously this year was 36 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: the opposite. You know, I think we got better as 37 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: the year went on, but you know, the continuity was 38 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: there a little bit more towards the end, but you 39 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: know it, punt team I think was better. Obviously Jamie 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: had a really good year. And I think our coverage, 41 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: you know, other than the you know, the one return 42 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: versus Philly, that's been pretty solid all year. So you know, 43 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: there's some bright spots there, some things that you can 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 2: build upon. You know, obviously getting on the Kicker train, 45 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: you didn't want to get on that thing, so I 46 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: told you guys about the kicker train, so it's it's 47 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: that part of it is frustrating. But I will say this, 48 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 2: having those guys in the room has been really good 49 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: for me as a coach, just to be able to 50 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: have that amount of knowledge and experience you can learn 51 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: from and each guy's different, you know, and that part 52 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: of it has been pretty good. But I mean, obviously 53 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: we would like to have a lot more success, more 54 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: consistency and in our return game, you know, but that's 55 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: just part of it. To the table, oh man, I mean, 56 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: it's you know, Gunner's Gunner. You know, this guy works 57 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: at it. He's very diligent and how he goes about 58 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: his day, he's a pro. He works like a pro. 59 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: And I think y'all saw the you know, all of 60 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 2: those things you know, come to come into play when 61 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: he made that play. Especially super proud of him the 62 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 2: way he's bounced back, you know, not playing against him 63 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: and then him coming over here from Pittsburgh after the 64 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: troubles that he had and just really re refocused on 65 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: what he needed to do. And obviously, you know, he 66 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: made a big play the other day. So have you 67 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: had any conversations with them about your future here. Do 68 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: you expecting to be back? I mean, you always expect me back. 69 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: I got a year on my contract, so but I 70 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: you know, I'll cross that road when I get there, 71 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: and you know, whatever happens happens. That's just that's the NFL. 72 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: I don't worry about it, never have, never will. But 73 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: that's that's just part of the process, you know, being 74 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: being the NFL. You're still another contract that that you're 75 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: saying at least for one more year. Yeah, this might be. 76 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: An obvious question, but I've asked those a million times 77 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: of you. How much did the changing of the Kickers 78 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 1: affect kind of the whole group, maybe even team wide 79 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: at times? 80 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know. You know, I think our 81 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: group is resilient. I think our guys are I don't 82 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: I don't think it really moved them one way or 83 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: the other. It's it's kind of hard to put your 84 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: finger on it. Graham, you know, Graham was struggling early, 85 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: you know, get the injury, and he was struggling, and 86 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: then and then it's then the wheels is fellow, you know, 87 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: I mean, just stuff just got crazy, and uh but 88 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: I think that you know, in the process of that. 89 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: You know, guys just didn't blink. They didn't They just 90 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: you know, they just kept going, who's the next guy? Man, 91 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: get him in here, get him ready? And you know, 92 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: I don't think the guys blink. So you know, it 93 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 2: was it was a it was a roller coaster ride, 94 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: and uh it was. It was definitely a very very 95 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: unique experience that I've never experienced before the work. 96 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: Do you expect changesself this year in regards to coaching 97 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: staff in general? With the you know, obviously you know 98 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,119 Speaker 3: it wasn't the season you guys as a whole wander. 99 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that that ain't got nothing new with me. 100 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: You know, coaching changes. The people who make the changes 101 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: will make the changes like that, whether what I think 102 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: about it or what I think might happen is relevant. Uh. 103 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: My job is just to focus on trying to be 104 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: Philly this week and get our guys playing as hard 105 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: as they can possibly play for sixty minutes on Sunday, 106 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: and then at seven twenty eight or whenever the game's over. 107 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: With you worried about all that stuff? Then until then, 108 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: I ain't worried? Are you made? 109 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: You see how fast some of these seasons go. 110 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: It's like you turn around and it's over. Tom. I'll 111 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: tell you what, man, it was. It is amazing how 112 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: fast these things go by. I mean, it's like you 113 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: look up and it's week ten and then and then 114 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: you look up now it's it's it's week eighteen. It's 115 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: it's it's it's crazy. And the older you get, the 116 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: faster they go, you know. I mean I remember being 117 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: a young coach, you know, my first job in Kansas 118 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: City is it's like, good gracious, this thing took forever, 119 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: you know, and but then you know, they share them 120 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: fifty years old and my you know, twenty fifth year 121 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: coaching and it just it just shoots by, shoots by 122 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 2: really fast. So but it's it's been good. But you 123 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: know it was, Yeah, you're right, they come by real fast. 124 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: Your son here quite a bit. What's it been like 125 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: to build of him and kind of be fireless with you? 126 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: You know, it's I couldn't explain to you how good 127 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 2: it's been just to have him up here, and you know, 128 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: he's not playing anymore, so you know, he's he's he 129 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: never had this opportunity, like his older brother who's at 130 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: Florida now, he's never had this opportunity to come to 131 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: games and like be on the sideline because he was 132 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: always playing, like he always had a football game himself, 133 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: or you know, he high school football, or you know, 134 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: he's always playing college football. So this is his first experience, 135 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: even you know, with all the COVID stuff, So this 136 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: is his first experience ever being able to do it. 137 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: So it's it's really been cool to have him up 138 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: here and just have him, you know, it's kind of 139 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: move around and be with the guys because the guys 140 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: know who he is. They just they didn't see him 141 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: a whole lot because he was always doing what they 142 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: were doing. He was playing football. So but now it's 143 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: been really really good. Appreciate you ask in future. No, 144 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to be a coach. I 145 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: don't think either my boys will be coaches. My oldest son, 146 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: Trey is at Florida. He's a recruited analyst at Florida 147 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: and obviously he wants to go into the scouting slash 148 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: personnel side and Trent. Trent has his own podcast right 149 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: now and it's kind of you know, he started it 150 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: in September and he loves it. Like if you guys 151 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: just go check him out. He's very, very passionate in 152 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: his pursuit of a debate. You know, him and his 153 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: brother been doing in the back of my suburban ever 154 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: since they were you know well, I think Trent was 155 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: maybe seven or eight and Trey was like sixteens, you know, so, 156 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: but they've always been just debaters of sports and lovers 157 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: of sports. So nah, I don't see either one of 158 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: them doing the crazy stuff that I'm doing.