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Speaker 4: Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've
Speaker 4: been on a journey to prove the existence of life
Speaker 4: after death. On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we
Speaker 4: now know that our loved ones have survived physical debt,
Speaker 4: and so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife.
Speaker 4: Do you watch Shark Tank? Mom? And I love seeing
Speaker 4: the entrepreneurs going into the tank and pitching their products
Speaker 4: to the sharks. Well. I was surprised that one of
Speaker 4: the ladies we've seen on TV went from Shark Tank
Speaker 4: to being able to see deceased children her name is
Speaker 4: Kirsten Halfcock, and I had a conversation with her this
Speaker 4: past week.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I used to think that being on Shark Tank
Speaker 2: was going to be the most interesting thing about my life,
Speaker 2: and it turns out it's not. To back up, I
Speaker 2: grew up in Ohio. My parents were teachers. My dad
Speaker 2: was a football coach, and moved out to California, married
Speaker 2: two children, ended up working in corporate America, mostly in
Speaker 2: the TV industry. So I work for A and E
Speaker 2: and the History Channel. And then once our youngest daughter
Speaker 2: was I think she was around one, I didn't want
Speaker 2: to go back to work full time. I wanted to
Speaker 2: still make that income, but try and do something from home.
Speaker 2: Now I know it's intuition. Then I thought, this is crazy.
Speaker 2: Why am I thinking I can build furniture and I
Speaker 2: have no experience with this, And I thought I'll give
Speaker 2: it a try. My dad used to build furniture in
Speaker 2: our house, so I'll try it. So I built furniture,
Speaker 2: specifically kid stuff, and I like the mid century modern style.
Speaker 2: So I started building that type of toy box back
Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven. At that point, I just thought, gosh,
Speaker 2: this is going to help pay the bills, like I
Speaker 2: can pay the gas bill with this right, And it
Speaker 2: exploded in a way that I never thought would happen.
Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, I'm starting to get orders
Speaker 2: from New York, from celebrities, from England, from all over
Speaker 2: the place. Within four years, it was at the point
Speaker 2: where I needed manufacturing help, which is what led me
Speaker 2: to Shark Tank, because at that point I thought, I
Speaker 2: can't there's no way I can do anything about this.
Speaker 2: Just doing all this myself in the garage, I'm so overwhelmed.
Speaker 2: So I applied to Shark Tank. So once I got
Speaker 2: on Shark Tank, I ended up getting two offers, And
Speaker 2: there's a whole journey and a whole section of that
Speaker 2: in my book where I talk about all of that.
Speaker 2: But it was actually one of the best things I've
Speaker 2: ever done because it taught me to trust my intuition
Speaker 2: more so than I'd ever done. And I was thirty four,
Speaker 2: I believe at the time when all that happened. You know,
Speaker 2: I lived a good chunk of life without really knowing
Speaker 2: a what intuition was, how to trust it. I knew nothing.
Speaker 2: I get into the Shark Tank years and I'm like
Speaker 2: this is great. I did it. I've expanded, I'm partnering internationally,
Speaker 2: I've got a manufacturer, and I thought, okay, this is awesome,
Speaker 2: pinnacle of everything. And then of course I shouldn't have
Speaker 2: thought that, because then everything goes down. Now from there,
Speaker 2: it's a story that is unbelievable, and I didn't believe
Speaker 2: it myself, to be honest with you. My first reaction,
Speaker 2: I'm in the garage and building furniture. I'm hearing mom
Speaker 2: or I would see a figure walk across the garage
Speaker 2: like a small figure. What were my kids?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Wait there at school? Okay, what am I seeing? So
Speaker 2: as that started to ramp up, I started to think,
Speaker 2: this is the polyurrathane that I've been breathing. This is crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm very grounded person from Ohio who always trusted all
Speaker 2: the science data and empirical research. So none of it
Speaker 2: made similar to your journey, which is it wasn't something
Speaker 2: that I was prepared for. And I really did think
Speaker 2: I was going crazy, and thankfully the other side started small.
Speaker 2: I guess I would say with me. I was reading
Speaker 2: Facebook one night and I remember seeing a message about
Speaker 2: two I would say, kids, They're not kids. They were
Speaker 2: parents at the time, but I went to school with
Speaker 2: them and they were a couple years older. I didn't
Speaker 2: know them very well, and I ended up reading about
Speaker 2: the loss of their son who had passed away. First
Speaker 2: of all, I didn't even know they had a son,
Speaker 2: that's how not close we were. So I am reading
Speaker 2: this Facebook post and all of a sudden, I can
Speaker 2: feel him next to me. I had been finally coming
Speaker 2: to grips with this and understanding that this was real,
Speaker 2: talking to a few people that were kind of woo woo,
Speaker 2: quote unquote. In my mind, that was at least the
Speaker 2: basis of the foundation for me before I got this
Speaker 2: message from Nate. He is such a force, and I
Speaker 2: remember thinking, Okay, if this is real, then I'll just
Speaker 2: write down what he's saying, because he was asking me
Speaker 2: to reach out to his parents. Could you see him
Speaker 2: or I could see him? Yes, I could see him,
Speaker 2: I could feel him, I could hear him. And it
Speaker 2: was really strange because how Claire has come in typically
Speaker 2: one at a time, and that's how it started for me.
Speaker 2: I would smell things like I would smell smoke, and
Speaker 2: I would think, nobody's smoking. Why am I smelling smoke?
Speaker 2: Not recognizing it was my grandfather. So the claars all
Speaker 2: came in, but they came in so quickly that by
Speaker 2: the time Nate got to me, which was a couple
Speaker 2: of months in, it was all at once. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was nuts. So he was telling me that I needed
Speaker 2: to share information with his family, and I said, okay,
Speaker 2: I'll write it down. And then after that, I kept
Speaker 2: looking around, like where did he go? And I thought,
Speaker 2: I'm just going to put it away for a minute,
Speaker 2: because first of all, I don't want to reach out
Speaker 2: to grieving parents. I don't want to hurt them. I
Speaker 2: was a parent myself, like, I don't want to hurt them.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be the crazy woman from Defiance, Ohio.
Speaker 2: I don't want this to reflect badly on my parents
Speaker 2: who still lived in Defiance, Ohio. And so I put
Speaker 2: it away and I went back out into the garage
Speaker 2: a couple days later, and I was working on the
Speaker 2: toy box that I had built, about to ship it out,
Speaker 2: and I had this overwhelming calm. It was almost like
Speaker 2: I didn't hear it, but I felt like, it's time,
Speaker 2: it's time, It's okay. And so I had that of okay,
Speaker 2: I'll try. So I reached out to them on messenger
Speaker 2: in Facebook and said, I don't know if you remember me,
Speaker 2: and my dad was a football coach. They still live
Speaker 2: in town. They're normal people. They're saying, I promise, I'm saying,
Speaker 2: but I feel like I've communicated with your son on
Speaker 2: the other side, and he really wants me to pass
Speaker 2: these messages. I was very grateful because his mom was
Speaker 2: already believing that he was on the other side. She
Speaker 2: was already recognizing signs. His dad was not at that point,
Speaker 2: so he was very skeptical. Ended up passing that message
Speaker 2: and even went over to their house when I went
Speaker 2: home to visit my family. That's been twelve years ago,
Speaker 2: I think, so I still passed messages to them, to
Speaker 2: Denise and John, and they came to my book launch
Speaker 2: and they've just been like amazing friends because the way
Speaker 2: I look at it, they helped me, and he helped
Speaker 2: me as much as I helped them. But I sat
Speaker 2: with them. I sat with their youngest son, who was
Speaker 2: their only living son now, and I remember sharing messages
Speaker 2: for about an hour and I did that privately. Whatever
Speaker 2: it was that I shared came to be, and so
Speaker 2: at that point he said, thank you, this is such
Speaker 2: a gift. I didn't know they were struggling. I didn't
Speaker 2: know what they were dealing with at the time, but
Speaker 2: it really changed their lives. It brought them all back
Speaker 2: together again as a family. And yeah, it was just
Speaker 2: it's incredible. Right then and there, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm sold. I can do this. It's scary, but I
Speaker 2: can do this because it gave them such hope.
Speaker 4: That's the whole point of all of it. So then
Speaker 4: what happened.
Speaker 2: More kids started coming in were kids, Yes, more kids
Speaker 2: started coming in, kids that I had some sort of
Speaker 2: connection to. There was a child that came in who
Speaker 2: was related to a dear friend of mine from childhood.
Speaker 2: I would go stay at their house and hang out
Speaker 2: with them and their kids, and we were family, really
Speaker 2: close family friends. I remember when I would go to
Speaker 2: her house, my toes would be pulled on at night
Speaker 2: when I was sleeping, the room was really cold. There
Speaker 2: was just all this stuff happening all around the same time. Thankfully,
Speaker 2: she didn't think I was nuts, which a lot of
Speaker 2: people in my circle were saying, this is crazy, but
Speaker 2: she didn't. There was a little girl who had been
Speaker 2: abducted and murdered by a pediflowering that was trying to
Speaker 2: get my attention, and there was a connection in that
Speaker 2: area and that's how she found me. That freaked me
Speaker 2: out because now I'm thinking, what do I do? Am
Speaker 2: I really supposed to reach out? I reached out to
Speaker 2: the mom of the child, and the mom basically said,
Speaker 2: thank you. What you're telling me is what happened, even
Speaker 2: though the public reports say otherwise. So she knew that
Speaker 2: I was really getting the information from the other side.
Speaker 2: And then I was able to reach out to other
Speaker 2: detectives because as we know, it's a ring. When these
Speaker 2: rings are pretty prevalent unfortunately internationally, and they're intertwined, and
Speaker 2: so I started to just form relationships with different cops
Speaker 2: around the country. The first thing I would say is, Hi,
Speaker 2: I'm curious, din I'm a CEO of a furniture company.
Speaker 2: I would try it and make it as clear as
Speaker 2: possible that I wasn't somebody who was trying to do anything,
Speaker 2: but sheer information that could be helpful.
Speaker 4: Sometimes in these cases, they're out of clues, right and
Speaker 4: to be able to get one. Let's see what you
Speaker 4: have to say, lady.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and that's what ended up happening with one
Speaker 2: of my closest partnerships. His name's Mark Pouchi. He wrote
Speaker 2: the forward from my book. He is a retired NYPD
Speaker 2: detective and he and I actually just co founded a
Speaker 2: nonprofit two years ago called the National Institute for Law
Speaker 2: and Justice, and we help families who's loved ones have
Speaker 2: been murdered or are missing. But with him, he said
Speaker 2: he had worked with other psychics before, he was already
Speaker 2: okay with it, but also very intuitive himself. That partnership
Speaker 2: came through another case. It was organized crime murder that
Speaker 2: happened in New York, and I happened to be connected
Speaker 2: to someone related to the person who had gone missing.
Speaker 2: Mark had agreed, as a private detective who was retired,
Speaker 2: that he was going to also volunteer on this case
Speaker 2: from a different angle, and found out that I was
Speaker 2: willing to also work on it. So we connected over
Speaker 2: the phone. I shared information I was getting from the
Speaker 2: man on the other side because I knew he was deceased,
Speaker 2: and he said, okay, we'll see what else you can
Speaker 2: get and then let's meet back up again. And I
Speaker 2: happened to have been in New York This was twenty fourteen,
Speaker 2: and so we met up at a diner and I
Speaker 2: took my little folder and he had his folder, and
Speaker 2: we sat down and they matched and it was information
Speaker 2: that I couldn't have known only from the man in spirit,
Speaker 2: and it matched everything that he had been investigating boots
Speaker 2: on the ground. So it was at that point I
Speaker 2: think that our partnership was solidified. And then I just
Speaker 2: continued to help him on cases he was working on
Speaker 2: as well, until we found it the nonprofit together.
Speaker 4: Kirsten Halfcock is the author of Little Voices, a book
Speaker 4: that you might enjoy, and she still keeps making furniture
Speaker 4: and helping these spirits get to their loved ones. If
Speaker 4: you want to hear the full conversation I had with Kirston,
Speaker 4: you'll find it at we dootdie dot com. When we
Speaker 4: come back from the break, I'd like to introduce you
Speaker 4: to a young man who had a very different kind
Speaker 4: of near death experience and now is passionately helping people
Speaker 4: get over resentment and learning about forgiveness. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: I'm George Norie. Thank you for listening to the iHeartRadio
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. Next,
Speaker 4: I'd like to introduce you to a young man who
Speaker 4: has had a very different kind of near death experience oriience.
Speaker 4: This is coach Brandon Densmore.
Speaker 6: I live in Union, Mean and have been here for
Speaker 6: a few years. Bought a house here, married to a
Speaker 6: beautiful woman named Mary Marcel, and we have a one
Speaker 6: year old baby.
Speaker 4: Congratulations on all that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a certified spiritual coach and I work here
Speaker 6: from my home helping people. I love what I do
Speaker 6: and wasn't always the case. Let's go into what happened basically.
Speaker 6: Back in twenty fourteen, I passed away from a heroin overdose.
Speaker 6: When I was eight years old, I was sexually molested.
Speaker 6: I guess I should have said trigger warning. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: was sexually molested at eight years old, and that really
Speaker 6: made me question myself and the world. Up until that point,
Speaker 6: I'd lived in a safe world. But at eight years old,
Speaker 6: I realized that not everybody has your best intentions at heart,
Speaker 6: and that's a lot to process for an eight year
Speaker 6: old kid. So I went to school. I hated school.
Speaker 6: I was made fun of, and it might have been
Speaker 6: because I was different. I didn't celebrate any holidays or
Speaker 6: participate in any extracurricular activities because I was raised as
Speaker 6: a Jehovah's witness. They have certain spiritual beliefs that are like,
Speaker 6: pretty way outside the mainstream. The religion taught me a
Speaker 6: lot of good morals, and I have a lot of
Speaker 6: respect for Jehovah's witnesses, but it did make me stand
Speaker 6: out as different, and maybe that made me an easy
Speaker 6: target for bullies. So I went to school.
Speaker 5: Hated it.
Speaker 6: Diagnosed with Crohn's disease and sacrili aspondolitis when I was
Speaker 6: thirteen or fourteen and was put on opiate painkillers. Over time,
Speaker 6: like I would take these things and it would treat
Speaker 6: my pain. The Crone's disease, I don't know how many
Speaker 6: people know, but it's arthritis of the intestine, so it's
Speaker 6: pretty painful, So it would treat my pain, but it
Speaker 6: would also treat my emotional pain, and maybe that's why
Speaker 6: it was so addictive. I think that's why it was.
Speaker 6: It made me feel comfortable in my own skin, more
Speaker 6: self confident, and I wasn't feeling those painful emotions of
Speaker 6: the effects of the sexual abuse and being made fun of.
Speaker 6: I was able to help me deal with those emotions.
Speaker 6: So I was diagnosed with those diseases, got hooked on painkillers,
Speaker 6: and lived that way for most of my life. I
Speaker 6: dropped out of school in the ninth grade and was
Speaker 6: headed down a really dark road. Then I was in
Speaker 6: a fight when I was twenty one. I guess you
Speaker 6: could say that was my first near death experience. I
Speaker 6: was beat to within an inch of my life. This guy,
Speaker 6: he was a third degree black belt. We'd been drinking
Speaker 6: and ended up getting in a fight with this guy
Speaker 6: and he was wearing steeled toed boots and he kicked
Speaker 6: me three times in the head. And I went to
Speaker 6: the doctor the next day and he said, if that
Speaker 6: guy had put three more pounds of pressure behind that
Speaker 6: last kick, his boot would have gone directly into your
Speaker 6: brain and you would be dead. So well, at age
Speaker 6: twenty one, I was questioning the possibility of my own
Speaker 6: non existence. I guess you could say at that time,
Speaker 6: I just experienced a complete blackout, the absence of everything, nothingness,
Speaker 6: and yet there was still a consciousness there to observe
Speaker 6: the nothingness. I didn't have a trip to heaven or
Speaker 6: Hell or all of these amazing experiences that people have
Speaker 6: at that time. I just experienced a total blackout. Afterwards
Speaker 6: that made me question my identity. Up to that point,
Speaker 6: I believed that I was stupid. I was going nowhere
Speaker 6: in life and basically it wasn't going to amount to anything.
Speaker 6: And then I was in that fight. I started like
Speaker 6: reading and listening to audiobooks about self development and spirituality
Speaker 6: and things like that. Long story shore. I went back
Speaker 6: to school, got my ged and then went to a
Speaker 6: community college, graduated from there, and ended up going into
Speaker 6: a summer program called Exploring Transfer where I want a
Speaker 6: full scholarship to go to Bassar College. Graduated from there
Speaker 6: with a philosophy degree. But what people didn't know was
Speaker 6: that while I was in this school, this prestigious school,
Speaker 6: and throughout this whole educational journey, I was addicted to painkillers.
Speaker 6: This whole time. Graduate from Vassar, then I'm back. I'm
Speaker 6: living in a little apartment in Winthrop, Maine, and outside
Speaker 6: of my apartment, I'm at my mom's place. I'd been
Speaker 6: in withdrawals for days without the medication. It's been three
Speaker 6: days since I've had any opiates, and really, like only
Speaker 6: people that have been dependent on opiates can really understand
Speaker 6: what it feels like to be going through withdrawals. I
Speaker 6: would go through this cycle of running out of my
Speaker 6: medication early because I would take just a little bit
Speaker 6: more than I was supposed to, and then my prescription
Speaker 6: would run out early and I'd be in withdrawals. And
Speaker 6: that's one way at school I was introduced to the heroin.
Speaker 6: I was at a party and withdrawals and somebody brought
Speaker 6: it out. So I'm waiting for this guy to show
Speaker 6: up because I can't get my prescription for another few
Speaker 6: days and I can't function. My mind is totally full
Speaker 6: of anxiety. I'm thinking about every problem in my life,
Speaker 6: and every problem is just screaming at the top of
Speaker 6: my lungs in my mind, uncontrollable, one problem after another
Speaker 6: in my mind after another. I'm not happy with my life.
Speaker 6: I'm not happy with who I am, how I feel,
Speaker 6: what's happened in the past, and it's all there and
Speaker 6: it's all raw, and I'm looking at the clock. Is
Speaker 6: this guy ever going to show up? The minute? Just
Speaker 6: clicking on the clock, click click, click, every second feels
Speaker 6: like an eternity waiting for this guy to show up.
Speaker 6: Finally he gets there, and like I'm crawling out of
Speaker 6: my skin, and he brings the stuff he leaves so
Speaker 6: I do some of it, and finally the nightmare is over.
Speaker 6: Finally I can just breathe, relax, collect my thoughts, and
Speaker 6: function normally. All of those thoughts just evaporated and felt
Speaker 6: really good. After a couple minutes, that pleasure and relief ended,
Speaker 6: and I realized that I was passing away. My breathing
Speaker 6: was slow, and things are getting darker and darker, and
Speaker 6: then bam, I'm outside of my body. I was shown
Speaker 6: two things in this near death experience, but you could
Speaker 6: say that I saw the future. Was shown the future.
Speaker 6: I saw all of the people that were affected by
Speaker 6: my death, and it was like the Halo deck from
Speaker 6: Star Trek that's like a computer simulation where it's this
Speaker 6: super advanced hologram where you can tell the computer, hey,
Speaker 6: I want to stand on the moon, and all of
Speaker 6: a sudden, all of your surroundings change and there you
Speaker 6: are on the moon. Or you can be shown any
Speaker 6: person that you want, any situation that you want, any
Speaker 6: place that you want. In this star trek Holidack, I
Speaker 6: was shown image after image, three dimensional like I'm there.
Speaker 6: I was shown all the people that were affected by
Speaker 6: my death, and I was shown a future reality where
Speaker 6: I didn't exist. It was like, this is what your
Speaker 6: life could have been if you hadn't died. And I
Speaker 6: was shown image after image. The one that really stands
Speaker 6: out is my mother. I was shown how my mother
Speaker 6: found my dead body on her couch, and I could
Speaker 6: feel her feelings, the grief that it was just soul
Speaker 6: crushing grief. I remember. I was shown that she came
Speaker 6: into her apartment and there I was on her couch, discolored,
Speaker 6: puss running out of my mouth, and she started screaming
Speaker 6: my baby. Oh no, my god, Oh my god, no,
Speaker 6: my baby, my little baby boy, my baby boy, no,
Speaker 6: my god, my baby. Pain was just overwhelming. Then I
Speaker 6: was shown my funeral, all the friends and the family
Speaker 6: that were affected, and all of the grief, and then
Speaker 6: the future reality that I would never experience, the woman
Speaker 6: I would never marry, the children I would never have,
Speaker 6: the joyful experiences that would never exist, all of the
Speaker 6: people that I could have helped, all of the potential
Speaker 6: that I was wasted, and then boom, I'm back in
Speaker 6: my body and gasping for breath. But before I was
Speaker 6: back in my body gasping for breath, I came back
Speaker 6: into the room after being shown all these images, and
Speaker 6: I heard a voice say, now your life is over
Speaker 6: and you wasted it. And then I begged not to die,
Speaker 6: that I would do whatever was necessary to make it
Speaker 6: so that this reality doesn't happen, so that I don't die.
Speaker 6: I need another chance. Please don't let me die. And
Speaker 6: then bam them back in my body gasping for breath.
Speaker 6: So that's what happened.
Speaker 4: Thank you first of all for sharing that with us.
Speaker 4: It's not easy to share some parts of our past,
Speaker 4: but every single human being deals with something, and they
Speaker 4: might show just the smiley faces on social media and
Speaker 4: all that, but we're all dealing with something. When you
Speaker 4: had that out of body experience and you were shown
Speaker 4: all that, first of all, how incredible to actually feel
Speaker 4: your mother's pain and feel it from her perspective. What
Speaker 4: a wake up call that is to see the impact
Speaker 4: that you have on others, that your life does. But
Speaker 4: the memory of it and how clear you saw it
Speaker 4: was it just as clear as we're living life now.
Speaker 4: How easy is it for you to recall? Does it
Speaker 4: stay fresh as a memory because it's almost ten years ago?
Speaker 2: Tell us about that.
Speaker 6: When it happened, it was as if it was real,
Speaker 6: like flesh and blood. But I was like a spectator
Speaker 6: on the side watching everything being taken from image to image,
Speaker 6: from scene to scene and just being shown, and it
Speaker 6: was just as clear as day, like it was real.
Speaker 6: I still remember the image of my mother finding my
Speaker 6: body crystal clarity. But as time has gone on, it
Speaker 6: has become less vivid, like any memory does. But at
Speaker 6: the time it was very real.
Speaker 4: I asked that because it's just common with near death
Speaker 4: experiences to have it so real, more so real did
Speaker 4: any memory or any dream we have, So it just
Speaker 4: wanted to point out that it carries that same characteristic.
Speaker 4: So what happened then, because clearly you're still going to
Speaker 4: have that addiction, And how did you become who you
Speaker 4: are today? Because any kind of addiction, whatever it is,
Speaker 4: I know there's dopamine receptors in our system that are
Speaker 4: craving for whatever it is, and it's.
Speaker 2: Not so so easy.
Speaker 4: Is just saying, oh, I'm not going to do it
Speaker 4: today when everything in your system is crying out for that.
Speaker 4: So what was it like coming back?
Speaker 6: I think that might be why I was shown. The
Speaker 6: things that I was shown was to give me the
Speaker 6: strength to be able to push through the darkness and
Speaker 6: to move past into the light because it was very difficult.
Speaker 6: But I couldn't let myself die. I couldn't let my
Speaker 6: mother find my body. I couldn't let all of those
Speaker 6: people be affected, and I couldn't waste my life. Before
Speaker 6: I returned back into my body, I told the presence
Speaker 6: that was there that I was willing to do anything
Speaker 6: to have another chance.
Speaker 4: This is a good time to take our break, and
Speaker 4: then we'll be back with more words from Brandon Densmore.
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Speaker 5: Well, you're a mom. Shades of the Afterlife with Sander Champlain.
Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 4: and we're listening to Brandon Densmore tell his story of
Speaker 4: his near death experience, one in which he overdosed from
Speaker 4: heroin and witnessed what his life would have been like
Speaker 4: had he survived.
Speaker 6: Before I returned back into my body, I told the
Speaker 6: presence that was there that I was willing to do
Speaker 6: anything to have another chance. Immediately when I was back
Speaker 6: in my body, gasping for breath, I went into a
Speaker 6: seven day detalks and basically, like you said, with the
Speaker 6: dopamine receptors, my brain wasn't working. I basically had to
Speaker 6: learn how to tie my shoelaces again, that's how bad
Speaker 6: it was. I couldn't even tie my shoelaces because I
Speaker 6: had been on opiates for over a decade. So anyways,
Speaker 6: went to detox seven day t talks, then went to
Speaker 6: intensive outpatient services, so somewhere you go every day to
Speaker 6: talk about the disease of addiction and different strategies for
Speaker 6: not returning to the old behavior. And then I was
Speaker 6: introduced to Alcoholics Anonymous and went through the twelves steps
Speaker 6: of AA even though I wasn't an alcoholic, but I
Speaker 6: still worked those steps to the very best of my ability.
Speaker 6: Like I went all in because I was desperate. I
Speaker 6: needed to find another way to live. Did that and
Speaker 6: had to confront all of these inner demons, resentments, fears
Speaker 6: that I had, etc. Etc. I had to deal with
Speaker 6: that molestation that happened when I was eight years old
Speaker 6: and other things bullying. So I went through a spiritual
Speaker 6: refinement process. Long story short, I went from having false friends,
Speaker 6: living in a crappy little apartment, no money in the bank,
Speaker 6: just low self esteem, self confidence issues, to someone who
Speaker 6: owns their own business, who purchased a house, married the
Speaker 6: love of their life, has a baby, surrounded by real friends,
Speaker 6: just on and on. I have a garden. My life
Speaker 6: is happy, and it took a while I had to
Speaker 6: go through that spiritual refinement process. But now I'm in
Speaker 6: a position where I'm here and I'm able to really
Speaker 6: serve people, and it's an honor and a privilege to
Speaker 6: have had this experience. I've been able to take that
Speaker 6: addiction and turn it into my most powerful asset. So
Speaker 6: for the listeners out there, if you have addictions or
Speaker 6: things that you've gone through that you're struggling with, these
Speaker 6: things can become defining moments in our lives, and we
Speaker 6: can use them as a kind of rocket fuel really
Speaker 6: to become the best versions of ourselves. I'm living in
Speaker 6: a whole new reality.
Speaker 4: You are, and it's good to hear the story because
Speaker 4: everybody struggles. But we don't want everybody to have a
Speaker 4: near death experience. We don't want everyone to go through
Speaker 4: what you did. We want people to see that this
Speaker 4: is where you are now and what's possible. How did
Speaker 4: you decide to make your life about being a service
Speaker 4: And tell us a little bit about how you started
Speaker 4: and created your business, because that's what you do. You
Speaker 4: help people transform their lives.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So the twelfth step in alcoholics anonymous is about
Speaker 6: being of service and carrying the message to other alcoholics.
Speaker 6: The whole step system is designed to give people a
Speaker 6: spiritual awakening. And that's what happened to me. I had
Speaker 6: a white light type experience where I had a visitation
Speaker 6: from I don't know if it was an angel or
Speaker 6: my higher self, whatever this thing was. It didn't tell
Speaker 6: me what or who it was. Jesus, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I was in my bathroom taking a shower one day
Speaker 6: i'd worked the steps. I was having a hard time.
Speaker 6: I prayed and prayed because I was going through a
Speaker 6: rough time, and this being came through down through my ceiling,
Speaker 6: and it was invisible, but you could feel its presence.
Speaker 6: And it was like a light down through the ceiling
Speaker 6: while I'm taking a shower. I could feel its power.
Speaker 6: I started having these thoughts like I'm not worthy, like
Speaker 6: I've done X Y and Z, I have X Y
Speaker 6: and Z flaws, like I'm not worthy to be visited
Speaker 6: by this powerful angelic being. It was like it telepathically
Speaker 6: sensed my thoughts and I could care less about what
Speaker 6: I had done. It pierced through those thoughts into my
Speaker 6: body and it just radiated love and peace and acceptance,
Speaker 6: non judgment. It did something to my body. It was
Speaker 6: like penetrated me, like an X ray. And I believe
Speaker 6: that was the result of going through those steps and
Speaker 6: doing the spiritual refinement process and prayer and meditation, and
Speaker 6: then I had this experience. I started delving into being
Speaker 6: a sponsor for people and Alcoholics Anonymous, and then from
Speaker 6: there I enrolled in a course online about creating your
Speaker 6: own business, and then I became a certified spiritual coach.
Speaker 6: Now I'm where I am now, where I'm coaching people
Speaker 6: on a regular basis, and I'm creating a course online
Speaker 6: called Quantum Forgiveness. It's my ultimate method for creating time
Speaker 6: and energy so you can quickly accomplish your most important
Speaker 6: life goals. So that's where i am now. The course
Speaker 6: isn't finished, but I'm really passionate about this topic of
Speaker 6: quantum forgiveness. Why is it called quantum? Right, If you
Speaker 6: look into the etymology of the word quantum, it's about
Speaker 6: a particle or quanta, a quantity. Right, it is a
Speaker 6: particle of forgiveness. And in the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous,
Speaker 6: they say that resentment is the number one offender is
Speaker 6: basically the number one reason that alcoholics drink. Bam, mind
Speaker 6: blowing resentment is the number one reason why alcoholics drink.
Speaker 6: And then in another part of the Big Book, it says,
Speaker 6: after they've gone through the spiritual steps of alcoholics anonymous,
Speaker 6: that they've been rocketed into a fourth dimension of existence
Speaker 6: beyond which that ever dreamed. This is quantum forgiveness, the
Speaker 6: particle of forgiveness. It's the essence or the spirit of
Speaker 6: forgiveness that will rocket you into a fourth dimension of
Speaker 6: existence beyond which you've ever dreamed. Well, the fourth dimension
Speaker 6: of existence is time, So I'm talking about that forgiveness.
Speaker 2: It's a process, it's.
Speaker 6: A lifestyle, and if you can do it correctly, you
Speaker 6: will gain back time and energy, so you can do
Speaker 6: what really matters and what you need to accomplish in
Speaker 6: this life with more ease and low. I'm a sci
Speaker 6: fi guy. I like science fiction movies and stuff. But
Speaker 6: it's like a tachyon, a particle, right, a tachyon that
Speaker 6: moves forwards and backwards through time. So it's like literally
Speaker 6: you can rewrite the past, you can be in the present,
Speaker 6: and you can create the future simultaneously. It's wild and
Speaker 6: it's not humdrum. It's not your everyday kind of conversation
Speaker 6: that you have with people. But it's like when you're
Speaker 6: in resentment, you're like a victim and you're forced to
Speaker 6: be small. You can't really be of service to the world.
Speaker 6: It's like Plato's cave. It's a metaphor for the reality
Speaker 6: that we experience. Is that there are all these people
Speaker 6: and they're chained up in a cave for their entire lives,
Speaker 6: and they're forced to watch a wall with shadows being
Speaker 6: projected on it, and they believe that's reality because they've
Speaker 6: never known anything else, and they're in shackles. But one
Speaker 6: day someone is freed from that kind of entrapment and
Speaker 6: they follow the cave to the surface and they go
Speaker 6: out into the fresh air for the first time, and
Speaker 6: the sun is shining and the sky is blue, and
Speaker 6: there's green grass, and now they're really experiencing reality. What
Speaker 6: they thought they were living before was just a false existence.
Speaker 6: So that's what forgiveness, when done right and practiced as
Speaker 6: a lifestyle, does for you.
Speaker 4: It's fair to say you have forgiven yourself for all
Speaker 4: those things that happened in your past because it can't
Speaker 4: help but think, oh, if I had done this, didn't
Speaker 4: if I had done this differently. But I really believe Brandon,
Speaker 4: that we human beings do the best we can at
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 6: Yes, forgiven myself and others, I was even able to
Speaker 6: come to a place of letting go the sexual molestation.
Speaker 6: That was a challenge. That was something that bothered me
Speaker 6: for a long time. But in practicing it as a lifestyle,
Speaker 6: I've had to learn how to give up judgment of
Speaker 6: other people, righteous anger. Something happens, it makes you mad,
Speaker 6: and there's a good reason why it makes you mad,
Speaker 6: righteous indignation, judgment of other people, of myself. But let
Speaker 6: me tell you that going through this process, we don't
Speaker 6: realize how our resentments affect us and that they really
Speaker 6: rob us of our time and energy. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Don't you think though, that resentment and all those just
Speaker 4: comes automatic. We all have that ego, we get that
Speaker 4: voice inside of us, and we're quick to judge. I
Speaker 4: think that's part of being human. Doesn't make it right,
Speaker 4: but that we really have to build a muscle and
Speaker 4: to catch ourselves. I think automatically as human beings, it
Speaker 4: happens if somebody does something, you can make it wrong
Speaker 4: or resent them.
Speaker 6: It's I think that the mechanism, it's probably hardwired into
Speaker 6: our genetics, but we're evolving, and I think that the
Speaker 6: great spiritual masters have been pointing towards us for millennia.
Speaker 6: First of all, the ego serves a purpose. It's a
Speaker 6: defense mechanism. It keeps us safe, but it doesn't need
Speaker 6: to be in charge. It can be like a tyrant
Speaker 6: and you identify with it completely. You think that it's you,
Speaker 6: but it's not really you. There's a higher you that
Speaker 6: is connected to the spirit of the universe, and you
Speaker 6: can learn how to embrace that and utilize that in
Speaker 6: your daily life and put that spirit in charge.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people, including myself, that through the
Speaker 4: death of a loved one, there's fighting, there's miscommunications, and
Speaker 4: sometimes relationships have not healed, and there's resentment that people
Speaker 4: hang on to. What would be your advice, Would it
Speaker 4: be from seeing the situation from another person's perspective, sending
Speaker 4: them love?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say, first of all, resentment's not wrong.
Speaker 6: Your feelings aren't wrong. You have them for a reason.
Speaker 6: But if it's affecting you and it's draining you and
Speaker 6: you're thinking about it, and it's diminishing your quality of life.
Speaker 6: It might be something that you want to consider letting
Speaker 6: it go or dealing with it. You identify you need
Speaker 6: to move out of the victim mentality that this person
Speaker 6: did X, Y and Z to me and stop judging them.
Speaker 6: Part of it is understanding the why, like why did
Speaker 6: this happen? That's a big question that I hear a
Speaker 6: lot when dealing with the resentments.
Speaker 4: Let's go to the break now, and when we get back,
Speaker 4: we'll continue this conversation, and he's got some very powerful
Speaker 4: words about forgiveness. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlaine.
Speaker 4: It is said that sand in an oyster is an irritant,
Speaker 4: but ultimately that produces a pearl. People are the same
Speaker 4: way to you and me. They can be irritants and
Speaker 4: there can be lots of problems, but we're being polished
Speaker 4: just like that pearl. So let's continue with Coach Brandon
Speaker 4: densmore about some words on forgiveness.
Speaker 6: Your feelings aren't wrong. You have them for a reason.
Speaker 6: But if it's affecting you and it's draining you, and
Speaker 6: you're thinking about it and it's diminishing your quality of life,
Speaker 6: it might be something that you want to consider letting
Speaker 6: it go or dealing with it. You need to move
Speaker 6: out of the victim mentality that this person did X,
Speaker 6: Y and Z to me and stop judging them. Part
Speaker 6: of it is understanding the why, like why did this happen?
Speaker 6: That's a big question that I hear a lot when
Speaker 6: dealing with the resentments, and that can be a way
Speaker 6: that will help shift your perspective out of this victim mentality.
Speaker 6: And like I said, I'm not judging it. There's nothing
Speaker 6: wrong with it, So you can make the choice to
Speaker 6: let it go. You can make the choice to move
Speaker 6: on from it, to come to a place where you're
Speaker 6: not thinking about it, where it's not bothering you. And again,
Speaker 6: it's a process, but also a lifestyle of giving up
Speaker 6: judgment of other people, judgment of yourself. Like we have
Speaker 6: a club that we take out and we beat ourselves
Speaker 6: with and we beat other people with the club, and
Speaker 6: that club is called judgment. We demonize what we did
Speaker 6: or what they did, and then we beat ourselves and
Speaker 6: we beat other people with this club. But you can
Speaker 6: put the club down and not spend your time and
Speaker 6: energy on that anymore and instead figure out why do
Speaker 6: people do what they do, And there's different perspectives on that,
Speaker 6: and alcoholics anonymous people do things that are horrible because
Speaker 6: they're sick. In the case of my molestation, my sponsor
Speaker 6: brought this to my attention. I was having a conversation
Speaker 6: with him in the fifth step about resentments that I had,
Speaker 6: and the sexual molestation came up, and he said, Brandon,
Speaker 6: that's terrible that happened to you. That should never have happened.
Speaker 6: There's nothing you could have done, And then he said,
Speaker 6: but in the twenty years that you've been alive, did
Speaker 6: you ever consider why he did what he did? And
Speaker 6: I said, no, in twenty years, I haven't really thought
Speaker 6: about that. Have just condemned him. And he said, well,
Speaker 6: this guy was sixteen years old that sexually molested me
Speaker 6: when I was eight. And he said, well, did you
Speaker 6: consider that maybe he had been sexually molested, that maybe
Speaker 6: he had learned this behavior somehow? Well, no, I never
Speaker 6: thought of that. And then he said, well, picture him
Speaker 6: as a kid, maybe he was sexually molested. If that
Speaker 6: was the case, could you feel any compassion for him?
Speaker 6: And it was like this aha moment where it was like, yeah,
Speaker 6: I wouldn't want that to happen to anybody. So that's
Speaker 6: part of how understanding why people do what they do.
Speaker 6: One reason is that they're sick people, so they've been
Speaker 6: through trauma themselves, They've had violence happen in their lives,
Speaker 6: and they have internalized that and are now operating at
Speaker 6: that level. Can you have compassion for the sick person?
Speaker 6: Another why is a common sense why because people do
Speaker 6: what they do out of a sense of survival, because
Speaker 6: they think it's going to help them survive through certain things,
Speaker 6: or because they think it's going to make them happy.
Speaker 6: So an easy way to let go of a minor anger.
Speaker 6: I think just understanding that really people are doing things
Speaker 6: the way that they do because they think it's going
Speaker 6: to help them survive in the world, or it's going
Speaker 6: to make them happy or bring them pleasure in some way.
Speaker 6: And when you can look at it from that perspective,
Speaker 6: you can put some distance between you and what they're
Speaker 6: doing and take a step back. Another reason is innocence.
Speaker 6: Jesus said, forgive them, for they know not what they do,
Speaker 6: and this was when he was being tortured and being
Speaker 6: ready to be put to death. Forgive them for they
Speaker 6: know not what they do. Do any of us really
Speaker 6: know what we're doing. We don't have all the answers.
Speaker 6: We're really, at a core level innocent, like little children
Speaker 6: trying to make their way in the world. We don't
Speaker 6: know what we do. We don't know the effects of
Speaker 6: what we do that have on other people. And it's
Speaker 6: just an ignorance the reason why people do what they do,
Speaker 6: and that people aren't in their right mind when they
Speaker 6: hurt others or do something that affects our lives. So
Speaker 6: understanding the why. That's one piece of it I appreciate
Speaker 6: that people have struggled with in the past.
Speaker 4: Is why should I forgive them? Why should I forgive them?
Speaker 4: The thing is holding that resentment. It's like taking rat
Speaker 4: poison and waiting for the other person to die. What
Speaker 4: it does to us. It's not about impacting the other person,
Speaker 4: and it may certainly, but it's really so that we
Speaker 4: are free. We can clear the chalkboard of all that
Speaker 4: stuff that's holding us back and be free to be
Speaker 4: who we are. So thank you so much for sharing that.
Speaker 6: I also have a story that I wanted to tell
Speaker 6: you about prove life after death. I think that there
Speaker 6: is an after life and that the soul moves on
Speaker 6: to another existence. I had a good friend, someone that
Speaker 6: I used drugs with in the past. One night we
Speaker 6: were talking. We said to each other, Okay, if you
Speaker 6: ever die, or if I ever die, let's say you
Speaker 6: die first, you send me a message and let me
Speaker 6: know if there is life after death, and if I die,
Speaker 6: I'll do the same for you, and then we won't
Speaker 6: be afraid of death and we will know that there
Speaker 6: is existence afterwards. So what ended up happening was she
Speaker 6: had died from an overdose, but before I knew that
Speaker 6: she had passed away. One night, I'm in my camper.
Speaker 6: I lived in a camper at the time, and one
Speaker 6: night my friend shows up at the door, comes in
Speaker 6: sound asleep, just sits at my bed and then crawls
Speaker 6: into bed and cuddles with me and then just hangs out.
Speaker 6: It was like one hundred percent real, like in the flesh.
Speaker 6: And then the next day I found out she had
Speaker 6: passed away. She was letting me know that there is
Speaker 6: indeed an after life, and we go on.
Speaker 4: Give me goosebumps with that story.
Speaker 6: I don't know if that helps your listeners at all,
Speaker 6: but helps me.
Speaker 2: Yes, it does, absolutely it does.
Speaker 4: I know you've got some other things you have jotted
Speaker 4: down that you wanted to make sure we cover in
Speaker 4: this episode. Take a little look.
Speaker 6: Okay, So yeah, like overcoming ego, this was a big
Speaker 6: eye opener, was that when we're resentful of ourselves or
Speaker 6: other people, that it's really the ego. And not that
Speaker 6: there's anything wrong with this, I'm not judging it. Resentment
Speaker 6: keeps us stuck in a little self which a lot
Speaker 6: of people call the ego. It keeps us trapped in
Speaker 6: this little self, and our focus is on it, our
Speaker 6: energy is on it. We are really concerned only with ourselves.
Speaker 6: Because when we're spending our time and energy and thinking
Speaker 6: about how we've been wronged or what we've done wrong
Speaker 6: in the past, When our time and energy is focused
Speaker 6: on that, we can't accomplish our most important life goals.
Speaker 6: We can be of service. There's so many people that
Speaker 6: need help. There's so much good that we can accomplish.
Speaker 6: But when we're trapped in this little ego, we're only
Speaker 6: really concerned about ourselves, what's happened to us and protecting ourselves,
Speaker 6: and we can't expand and be the kind of help
Speaker 6: for the world that the world needs. Really and another
Speaker 6: part is logo therapy. Something that can help people overcome
Speaker 6: grief but also deal with the resentments is logo therapy.
Speaker 6: It was developed by this guy, doctor Victor Frankel. He's
Speaker 6: a Holocaust survivor, went through the most outrageous atrocities that
Speaker 6: anybody can ever imagine, and he got through it. And
Speaker 6: after that he developed this thing called logo therapy, which
Speaker 6: is basically meaning therapy. So if you have a strong
Speaker 6: enough meaning in your life, you can get through almost anything.
Speaker 6: This guy was tortured, this guy was starved and forced
Speaker 6: to watch other people go through the worst kind of
Speaker 6: things you can imagine. He survived, and he survived because
Speaker 6: he had a crystal clear vision of his wife that
Speaker 6: he wanted to make it through this experience so that
Speaker 6: he'd be able to see her again. So what happened
Speaker 6: in alcoholics anonymous is I acquired a meaning that was powerful,
Speaker 6: and the meaning was being of service to other people
Speaker 6: and helping other people. And once I started doing that,
Speaker 6: I could feel the joy of it. If you can
Speaker 6: find a meaning in your life, a powerful meaning, you
Speaker 6: can get through just about anything. And another thing. If
Speaker 6: someone has passed in your life, and maybe you have
Speaker 6: resentments toward them, or you resent yourself for maybe contributing
Speaker 6: to whatever happened, or you resent yourself for things that
Speaker 6: you did to them or didn't do. Just honor their
Speaker 6: name by doing things real world that help other people
Speaker 6: in some way. I'm going to give this guy on
Speaker 6: the side of the road ten dollars, and I'm doing
Speaker 6: it in the name of the person that passed away,
Speaker 6: and then keep doing it. It's like that person's is
Speaker 6: still here and through you is doing good in the world.
Speaker 4: That's great, that really is That's all I got, It's
Speaker 4: all you got. Well, then let's talk about how people
Speaker 4: could get in touch with you. What kind of do
Speaker 4: you do with other people? Is it one on one?
Speaker 4: I know you're developing the Forgiveness course. What can people
Speaker 4: get right now if they contact you? And how can
Speaker 4: they contact?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd have a few spots for coaching sessions, so
Speaker 6: I do offer coaching packages. I'm offering free sessions, free
Speaker 6: hour one on one coaching sessions to anybody who's interested.
Speaker 6: We can get together over Zoom or Facebook Messenger and
Speaker 6: have a conversation on what's going on in your life,
Speaker 6: no strings attached. If we decide to work together, you
Speaker 6: can purchase a coaching package. But other than that, I'm
Speaker 6: taking people on a wait list for the Quantum Forgiveness
Speaker 6: Course that I'm developing. The best way to contact me
Speaker 6: is coach Brandon Densmore. Edging is one good way. You
Speaker 6: can shoot me an email, or you can find me
Speaker 6: on Facebook and send me a private message.
Speaker 4: Great, thank you for that, and tell us about your
Speaker 4: YouTube channel. What you got going on there.
Speaker 6: I have some YouTube videos, but I don't really have
Speaker 6: a YouTube channel. But I've been going on a lot
Speaker 6: of different podcasts and you can find most of those
Speaker 6: interviews on my professional Facebook page.
Speaker 4: Okay, and that is easily going to Facebook dot com
Speaker 4: forward slash coach Brandon.
Speaker 6: Yes, b R A N D E N.
Speaker 4: Yes. That was coach Brandon Densmore. I hope you enjoyed that.
Speaker 4: I love telling stories and hearing stories about the afterlife.
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