Speaker 1: Because you. Thank you so much for doing this, not
Speaker 1: at all. It gave us more chance to tweak the
Speaker 1: lights for the fifty thousands of times you're doing well. Yes,
Speaker 1: How often are you coming into the office these days?
Speaker 1: About two to three days a week. How about you?
Speaker 1: I guess you come in. Yeah, I'm in every day now,
Speaker 1: So no more kids on the set. I have to ask,
Speaker 1: is your son still mining ethereum? He and I literally
Speaker 1: are talking about it last night. He's like that, you're
Speaker 1: the one who made me give up on it. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I didn't. But yeah. The thing that's good about business,
Speaker 1: I think it excites a whole new generation about technology,
Speaker 1: which is which is good. I really appreciate well, thank
Speaker 1: you for doing it, and thank you for coming down
Speaker 1: to do it. I'm ready to go, and you guys
Speaker 1: are from Google Headquarters in Mountain View, California. Welcome to
Speaker 1: this edition of Bloombrook Studio. At one point, Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: Emily Chang, and today my guest is Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai.
Speaker 1: He was born and raised in India and had almost
Speaker 1: no access to a computer until he got to college
Speaker 1: Entford University in the heart of Silicon Valley. Just years later,
Speaker 1: he found himself rising through the ranks of the world's
Speaker 1: largest search engine. It was Pachai that Google co founders
Speaker 1: Larry Page and Sergey Brin chose to run Google and
Speaker 1: later Alphabet now valued it more than two trillion dollars.
Speaker 1: It's one of the most powerful companies on the planet.
Speaker 1: You grew up in India, you lived through droughts, water
Speaker 1: was scarce. How has that experience shaped your feelings about
Speaker 1: the urgency of stopping climate change? You know, I grew
Speaker 1: up in Chennai, India, and a big part of my
Speaker 1: childhood was, uh, you know, really pretty severe water scarcity.
Speaker 1: You know, we would get water trupped in for the
Speaker 1: streets and standing lines and carry a few buckets of
Speaker 1: water at home. There was no running order for many years.
Speaker 1: And you know, but fast forward a few years ago,
Speaker 1: you know, Chennai had one in a hundred year flawed
Speaker 1: uh you know, which was a very extreme event kind
Speaker 1: of drove home. That combined with a few years ago,
Speaker 1: waking up to the orange skies here in the Bay Area,
Speaker 1: seeing the look of concern on my children's faces and
Speaker 1: having to explain it, you know, all kind of drove
Speaker 1: home in a deeply personal way for me. So I
Speaker 1: think it's the most defining issue we all face, and
Speaker 1: and you know, definitely something very motivated on working towards.
Speaker 1: I remember waking up to those orange Skuys too and
Speaker 1: having to have that same conversation with my kids. Do
Speaker 1: you think the commitments that cut twenty six went far enough?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm encouraged by many things. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we have to tip our hat to the people who
Speaker 1: are working super hard. The issues and the trade offs
Speaker 1: are are genuinely difficult. You know, you have to keep
Speaker 1: the economies growing. Uh, you know, it really matters. And
Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's a pretty severe, urgent issue.
Speaker 1: So I are encouraged by the progress. I think it
Speaker 1: builds on the Paris agreements, so I can see the
Speaker 1: forward progress. There is the deep anxiety that it all
Speaker 1: may not be enough, but you know, we have to
Speaker 1: be optimistic and keep pushing. Google has set some aggressive
Speaker 1: targets to run entirely on clean energy, to be the
Speaker 1: first tech giant to do so twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 1: How confident are you that when you look back on
Speaker 1: this time, let's say, a decade from now, you'll be
Speaker 1: able to say Google did enough to help save the world.
Speaker 1: We are putting so much energy and resource into it.
Speaker 1: It's always been kind of a founding value for us.
Speaker 1: We've been carbon neutral since two thousand seven. We've been
Speaker 1: matching our energy consumption with renewable energy over the past
Speaker 1: few years. So this, you know, we are not pushing.
Speaker 1: It's a moon shot. To be seven carbon free. That
Speaker 1: means every search you do, every email you send, that
Speaker 1: we can do it carbon free. We were at sixty
Speaker 1: one percent in the number is now sixty We've set
Speaker 1: our goals to be pent by and to do it globally.
Speaker 1: That means we have to solve new things which we
Speaker 1: haven't done before. Wind and solar alone won't be enough.
Speaker 1: We just started Geo Tomlin, Nevada. We will be investing
Speaker 1: in newer technologies, including carbon capture, etcetera over time. So
Speaker 1: that's what excites me. We are a technology company at heart,
Speaker 1: so part of there are many answers to this problem.
Speaker 1: Some of it is that we're going to have to
Speaker 1: innovate our way out of it, and you know, we
Speaker 1: want to push as hard as possible in doing that.
Speaker 1: Our Bloomberg New Economy Forum is happening this year in Singapore,
Speaker 1: and the Asia Pacific region is one of the fastest
Speaker 1: growing internet economies on the planet. Where do you see
Speaker 1: the most room, the most opportunity for Google to grow there? Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's such a fitting time frame, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're focused on the region. It's the most
Speaker 1: vibrant region we see. It's our twenty a year since
Speaker 1: we opened our office in Tokyo. It was the first
Speaker 1: office outside the Bay Area. Um, you have two and
Speaker 1: a half billion people on the Internet. There are many
Speaker 1: areas in which they are there leap frogging trends which
Speaker 1: are here and embracing the future. Digital payments is a
Speaker 1: great example. So many of our products originated from a
Speaker 1: pack Google Maps, Google Pay. A lot of our journey
Speaker 1: to bring computing to more people is playing out in
Speaker 1: Asia as well. I am excited about also the work
Speaker 1: we're doing through cloud because the companies that are rapidly
Speaker 1: transforming themselves digitally a chance to provide that is something
Speaker 1: very exciting for us. So super dynamic region. Clad. I
Speaker 1: feel like we are learning as Google being in the region,
Speaker 1: and so I think it will transform the first ten years,
Speaker 1: I would have said we took products here and brought
Speaker 1: it to a pack. Over the past few years, we're
Speaker 1: beginning to build things there and some of our future
Speaker 1: global products will be a pack first and the rest
Speaker 1: of the world later. You can't talk about a pack
Speaker 1: without talking about China, and you're facing stiff competition from
Speaker 1: Chinese tech giants there and beyond. What should US policymakers
Speaker 1: know about competing with China? You know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of conversations about US and China. The competition is feares
Speaker 1: when you look at areas like AI and quantum computing,
Speaker 1: where we are investing a lot. Uh, you know, the
Speaker 1: Chinese companies are neck to neck. What I I think
Speaker 1: about you know, I was encouraged by the news coming
Speaker 1: out of Glasgow about the U. S. China agreement on climate.
Speaker 1: To me, while we talk about all the all areas
Speaker 1: where we are competing, some of the biggest areas which
Speaker 1: are common challenges for all of humanity. The pandemic was
Speaker 1: one AI and AI safety over time will be a
Speaker 1: shed one obviously, Sustainabilities another area like that. So I
Speaker 1: think these are all areas in which the countries can
Speaker 1: come together. And so I think that's the way by
Speaker 1: which we think about as you know, when we compete
Speaker 1: on the Internet, and there may be different visions of
Speaker 1: how the Internet plays out. So I see opportunities both sides.
Speaker 1: What are the chances that Google Search will ever come
Speaker 1: back to China or that Google Cloud would ever come
Speaker 1: to China. Today we don't provide most of our signed
Speaker 1: in services in China, and I don't see that changing.
Speaker 1: But you know, there are ways, as I said, in
Speaker 1: areas like AI or sustainability, I think there will be
Speaker 1: opportunities for us to work together. Through cloud. We will
Speaker 1: support multinational companies which have presents everywhere, and so maybe
Speaker 1: there are opportunities to work that way as well. AI
Speaker 1: is advancing at an astonishing rate, and it is hard
Speaker 1: to understand sometimes what this really means in concrete terms.
Speaker 1: How will our lives look different, let's say ten years
Speaker 1: from now as a result of AI. You know, done correctly,
Speaker 1: you know in many ways it's going to be helpful
Speaker 1: to you. You'll take it for granted the same way today.
Speaker 1: For example, in India, over one third of the queries
Speaker 1: on many phones come through voice. That is something people
Speaker 1: take for granted. You can do it so over time,
Speaker 1: you'll expect to speak and be able to understand any
Speaker 1: language in the world, and you know those are always
Speaker 1: it's going to make it better. You may go to
Speaker 1: a doctor's office and go through a scan, and the
Speaker 1: system may be prioritizing for the radiologists so that they
Speaker 1: don't miss some important things, maybe giving them a second opinion.
Speaker 1: You know. So these are all ways in which it
Speaker 1: will seamlessly start playing a role. And I think, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see the efforts of that you mentioned
Speaker 1: if done correctly. And there are concerns. There are fears
Speaker 1: that AI will replicate the worst of society, even under
Speaker 1: Google's own roof. From your own researchers, what scares you
Speaker 1: most about AI? What keeps you up at night? It's
Speaker 1: the most profound thing we're working on as humanity, And
Speaker 1: and any time you're developing technology, there is a dual
Speaker 1: site to it. I think the journey of humanity is
Speaker 1: harnessing the benefits while minimizing the downsides. The good thing
Speaker 1: with AI s it's both going to take time. I
Speaker 1: think I've seen more focus on the downsides early on
Speaker 1: than most of the technology we've developed. So in some ways,
Speaker 1: I'm encouraged by how much concern there is, and you're right,
Speaker 1: even within Google, you know, you know, people think about
Speaker 1: it deeply. We publish a lot of research that are
Speaker 1: I think it's more important that there are outside academic institution, governments,
Speaker 1: nonprofits looking at this issue as well. So I think
Speaker 1: it's it'll it will be an issue which you will
Speaker 1: have a lot of attention, which gives me a lot
Speaker 1: of comfort as well. Coming up on Bloomberg Studio at
Speaker 1: one point, Oh, how Google ceo is reflecting on the
Speaker 1: continuous controversy it is surrounding one of its biggest rivals, Facebook,
Speaker 1: And if Facebook is betting on the metaverse, what is
Speaker 1: Google's next trillion dollar opportunity? More with Alphabet and Google ceo,
Speaker 1: so dark Chi Coming up on this edition of Bloomberg
Speaker 1: Studio at one point, Oh, stay with us. Google just
Speaker 1: hit a two trillion dollar market cap, Alphabet, I should say,
Speaker 1: where is the next trillion dollars going to come from?
Speaker 1: You know, I've always felt, uh, you know, your market
Speaker 1: cap valuation is an effect of the value you provide,
Speaker 1: and I feel fortunate our mission is timeless. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: there's more need to organize information than ever before. I
Speaker 1: still feel searches our biggest moon shot as a company.
Speaker 1: You know, people will want radically more conversational experiences. They
Speaker 1: will want what we call multimodal experiences. They may speak
Speaker 1: to search, they may look at some thing and ask
Speaker 1: what the information is. Being able to adapt to all
Speaker 1: that and evolve, search will continue to be the biggest opportunity.
Speaker 1: We are so excited about the YouTube cloud, our our
Speaker 1: hardware products, school Play. So we're building a diverse set
Speaker 1: of businesses. But and underlying all of it is the
Speaker 1: investments we are making in AI. You know, we've invested
Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars in R and D in the past
Speaker 1: five years, and so applying AI in a deep way
Speaker 1: is probably where we will create the biggest opportunity ahead.
Speaker 1: Microsoft is making some big acquisitions. Apple's anti ad tracking
Speaker 1: technology is shaking up the industry. What do you make
Speaker 1: of these competitive moves. Your competitors say they're on the
Speaker 1: right side of history. Are they? I look at the
Speaker 1: fact that there are three billion people who have access
Speaker 1: to knowledge of their fingertips. I look at the opportunity
Speaker 1: we provide. I look at the skills people are learning
Speaker 1: through YouTube. You know, I feel it everywhere when I
Speaker 1: go talk to people and and providing access to information
Speaker 1: and knowledge. I think we'll end up being on the
Speaker 1: right side of history as well. Your predecessor, Eric Schmidt
Speaker 1: told me that he feels the latest Facebook revelations are disturbing.
Speaker 1: Google also has access to massive amounts of our data.
Speaker 1: Why should half the world's population, more than half the
Speaker 1: world's population trust Google to do the right thing? We
Speaker 1: are trying to do more with less data. One of
Speaker 1: the biggest changes we made was making order delete the
Speaker 1: default setting for new users signing in, and now over
Speaker 1: two billion users have their data continuously being deleted. Look,
Speaker 1: we rely on trust for people. You know, every day
Speaker 1: when people come to Google, uh, you know, they placed
Speaker 1: their trust in us in vulnerable moments, maybe a health
Speaker 1: issue in which they are trying to understand. You know,
Speaker 1: there's no more important responsibility we have than doing right
Speaker 1: by the trust. You know, when when we provide Gmail
Speaker 1: to journ list and realize that the accounts maybe under
Speaker 1: attack by by an authority in government. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what you know motivates us to make sure be privacy,
Speaker 1: be security, be trust. We're doing the right thing. Over time,
Speaker 1: regulation will have an important role to play here. I
Speaker 1: think privacy regulation is important. In the areas like AI
Speaker 1: regulation will be important, and so I think, you know,
Speaker 1: those will be part of the answers as well. The
Speaker 1: Facebook fallout that Instagram can be toxic two teens, for example,
Speaker 1: has this raised more or new concerns for you about
Speaker 1: the impact of technology, tech, addiction, algorithms, YouTube even on
Speaker 1: our children and their development and their mental health. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're a parent, and you also have a lot of
Speaker 1: power over how this plays out, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: like you, you know, bringing kids up in this modern
Speaker 1: digital world is something I think all parents are anxious about, rightfully,
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, it's part of why a
Speaker 1: few years ago when YouTube, you know, we we were
Speaker 1: exposed to a set of concerns. You know, we invested
Speaker 1: it became our number one priority to work hard at it. Uh.
Speaker 1: The reason YouTube invested so much in developing YouTube Kids
Speaker 1: as a safe destination for young children. So on, the
Speaker 1: technology is going to play a big role in helping
Speaker 1: give children the next wave of opportunity as well. So
Speaker 1: the answer is to develop it responsibly. We have changed
Speaker 1: our balance in these areas and saying we think about
Speaker 1: content responsibility first and then the pace of development or
Speaker 1: new features in areas like YouTube, and so that's how
Speaker 1: we approached it for a while. Facebook and Microsoft are
Speaker 1: all in on the metaverse. What do you think about
Speaker 1: the metaverse? What's Google's metaphorse strategy. It's always been obvious
Speaker 1: to me that computing, over time will adapt to people,
Speaker 1: and people adapting to computers. You know, you won't always
Speaker 1: interact with computing in a black rectangle in front of you.
Speaker 1: So just like you speak to people you see interact,
Speaker 1: computers will become more immersive. They will be there when
Speaker 1: you need it to be. So I've always been excited
Speaker 1: about the future of UH immersive computing, ambient computing, a
Speaker 1: R and count as the metaverse? Is that what that is?
Speaker 1: Metaors is? I think it means different things to different people.
Speaker 1: The way I think about it is evolving computing in
Speaker 1: an immersive way with augmented reality as part of that.
Speaker 1: There will be many experiences, some of which will be immersive,
Speaker 1: interactive virtual worlds. You know, which is which is a
Speaker 1: meta worse concept? And you know, but I think this
Speaker 1: doesn't belong to any company, right, I mean, this is
Speaker 1: the evolution of Internet, and you know, the web, the Internet,
Speaker 1: all of it will continue to evolve. Google was famous
Speaker 1: for its campuses where you could go and never leave,
Speaker 1: you had everything you ever wanted. Now you've said they
Speaker 1: can be flexible, they can work from home, they can
Speaker 1: work at the office, they can be hybrid, they can
Speaker 1: work remotely permanently. Perhaps are you committed to really letting
Speaker 1: them do this forever? And if so, how does that
Speaker 1: change the future of work and society. Look, we've we've
Speaker 1: we've really embraced that, the fact that the future is
Speaker 1: going to be flexible. Google. We've always tried to give
Speaker 1: you known agency to our employees, but we do realize
Speaker 1: the importance of bringing people together, the creativity, community and
Speaker 1: collaboration that comes with it. So the balance we are
Speaker 1: striking as is this notion of three two and but
Speaker 1: we're giving the strength of our companies. We have more
Speaker 1: locations than most of the companies, so we're giving people
Speaker 1: choice to move anywhere in the world four weeks. They
Speaker 1: can work from anywhere. We're gonna accommodate of our workforce
Speaker 1: to be remote over time. So we're going to embrace
Speaker 1: that flexibility and forever forever. Yeah, And you know, we're
Speaker 1: committed to it through it all. It forces us to
Speaker 1: sign better products. And since people use Google workspace to
Speaker 1: run their companies, I think gives us a chance to
Speaker 1: innovate and bring all that out. Uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: think there is so much value in giving people more
Speaker 1: flexibility between their personal and professional lives. And I think
Speaker 1: it will lead to people being happier. And I think
Speaker 1: companies can be successful in that model. And so we're
Speaker 1: trying to get the best of both worlds, but embrace
Speaker 1: the flexibility and and and and see where we go
Speaker 1: up next. The war for tech talent is down more
Speaker 1: competitive than ever, and Google is offering more flexibility to
Speaker 1: its workers than ever before. But Elon Musk says big
Speaker 1: tech is a place where talent goes to die. How
Speaker 1: to send our pati respond to that, We'll also ask
Speaker 1: him to make a choice. That's next. This is Bloomberg Studio.
Speaker 1: At one point out you have presided over Google through
Speaker 1: massive social movements that reverberated in and outside the company.
Speaker 1: What have you learned as CEO since the walkout? For me?
Speaker 1: You know, it was it was a moment. I think
Speaker 1: it changed the company for the better. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: we've always been committed. It gave us an insight on
Speaker 1: what more we could do. We undertook deep commitments and
Speaker 1: the biggest you know, overall and diversity and inclusion. I
Speaker 1: think if you're committed and you actually put in the
Speaker 1: effort behind it, you can make a difference. Now we
Speaker 1: have stated clear goals, we are on track to meet
Speaker 1: us meet those goals. But it forced us to think
Speaker 1: about new answers. So for example, you know, tech companies
Speaker 1: used to talk about the pipeline problem, but we are
Speaker 1: now going to places where the talented we're working much harder.
Speaker 1: So going to Atlanta, going to d C, going to Chicago,
Speaker 1: going to New York. That's improving our diversity and representation
Speaker 1: at all levels. The war for talent is even more
Speaker 1: competitive now in this new world. What are you offering?
Speaker 1: Elon Musk has said big tech is a place where
Speaker 1: talent goes to die. How do you respond to that? Okay,
Speaker 1: I look at the fact that you know, we are
Speaker 1: looking to hire thirty thou people next year. I look
Speaker 1: at the impact we have on many people coming and
Speaker 1: working uh in the latest cutting edge things, and many
Speaker 1: people come and people leave Google. We are proud of
Speaker 1: people who have left Google that are I think there
Speaker 1: are over two thousand companies that have been started by
Speaker 1: whom we call as zooplers. I'm equally proud of that, right.
Speaker 1: I think we are one part of a big, big system,
Speaker 1: and you know, I think I think I'm proud of
Speaker 1: the role we playing bringing in people and the impact
Speaker 1: they have over time. And that was said, world, All right,
Speaker 1: that's most of the heavy stuff out of the way.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do some rapid fire just to get to
Speaker 1: know you a little bit better. Um, you said you'd
Speaker 1: pick up some new hobbies in the pandemic. What did
Speaker 1: you start? You know, pizza? Uh, you know, cooking pizza,
Speaker 1: just learning to cook, which I was never good at.
Speaker 1: I've gotten a little bit better. Cricket or soccer slash football. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's tough both, Please don't make okay? Um Square game
Speaker 1: or ted Lasso. I watched both. Ted Lasso is much
Speaker 1: more common, you know, and so I'd rather take ted
Speaker 1: Lasso for word scoot games anyday. I know you're a
Speaker 1: voracious reader. So what's the last good book that you read?
Speaker 1: You know, I've I've been on a podcast bench, so
Speaker 1: a lot more podcasts than books nowadays. Okay, favorite videos
Speaker 1: you watch on YouTube with your kids, a lot of
Speaker 1: music videos. Music videos. Uh, this whole notion where creators
Speaker 1: are watching other things and commenting on it. It's a
Speaker 1: trend which my kids are really into and I kind
Speaker 1: of gotten used to it now, so you know, watching
Speaker 1: other games. Let's as some phenomenon screen time policy that's
Speaker 1: worked for you as a parent, and what's what's not worked.
Speaker 1: You know, I've kind of given agency to my kids.
Speaker 1: The only thing I tell them is that I can
Speaker 1: look at their digital well being once in a while
Speaker 1: with them, and and so that I asked them to
Speaker 1: show it to me and they show it on their phone.
Speaker 1: So um, you know, so that that's pretty much the
Speaker 1: only thing. So beyond that, you know, it's agency and
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, talking to them about it and
Speaker 1: making sure we're spending time doing other things and making
Speaker 1: sure they develop good habits. Basically, um, metaverse or real
Speaker 1: world done correctly. You know, you shouldn't you shouldn't feel
Speaker 1: feel the need to make a choice. You know, you
Speaker 1: always want to be present in the real world, and
Speaker 1: when you feel the need to do something, you want
Speaker 1: to do that. But you know, I do think presents
Speaker 1: and the realness of the real world will end up
Speaker 1: mapping for him once for a long time. Do you
Speaker 1: own any crypto? H? I wish I did. I've dabbled
Speaker 1: in it, but you know, in and out, in and out, okay,
Speaker 1: um larreyn sergain. I'm not gonna make you choose. How
Speaker 1: many times do we ta talk to them? Uh? You know?
Speaker 1: I I talked to them regularly. Uh. You know. It
Speaker 1: kind of ebbs and flows, uh, you know. And so
Speaker 1: there are times we get excited about something and we
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time talking it through. But it
Speaker 1: depends on you know, what would I need? A piece
Speaker 1: of advice you wish you had in your twenties and
Speaker 1: a piece of advice you wish you had in your forties.
Speaker 1: Twenties would be, you know, being patient. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I think when you're young, you're very impatient, which is
Speaker 1: a great thing. But sometimes you do amazing things by
Speaker 1: slowing down and being really focused and doing it over
Speaker 1: a period of time. And so I would advise the
Speaker 1: young you know, the younger version of me, to be
Speaker 1: more patient. Maybe at forty, I would say, you know,
Speaker 1: when I look at climate and I want want all
Speaker 1: of us to be patient. So you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like when there's an urgency to its something, and I
Speaker 1: think the world needs to be impatient. So that's advice
Speaker 1: I would give to an older version of me. How
Speaker 1: much do you personally wrestle with the decisions that you
Speaker 1: have to make? And how much longer do you see
Speaker 1: yourself being the CEO of Alphabet not just Alphabet but
Speaker 1: also Google. Yeah, on the look on the first one,
Speaker 1: there are moments we all have to make tough decisions,
Speaker 1: and you know, and some decisions way on me and
Speaker 1: but I it's a privilege to do it. I have
Speaker 1: very good people helping me think, think things through. So
Speaker 1: I think the combination makes it all, you know. Fine,
Speaker 1: On the second thing, I am look at I'm so
Speaker 1: energized by the things we need to do. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't have much access to computing growing up. It
Speaker 1: changed my life a lot. The one laptop or child
Speaker 1: goal really motivated me to come into technology. And and
Speaker 1: when I look at last week US launching an affordable
Speaker 1: smartphone in India, the chance to bring the next Relion
Speaker 1: uses in Asia and in Africa online, that gives me
Speaker 1: a lot of energy we'll be watching from Afar Sundar Pacha.
Speaker 1: I thank you so much for joining us. It's question
Speaker 1: mine are not I have four so nine six four two.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you do it. I heard what
Speaker 1: you told. I'm all rodging about developing good responsibility for
Speaker 1: your kids in their own tech habits, and so it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: it sounds like it's like a good approach, and it
Speaker 1: feels like you're giving them more agency, but you also
Speaker 1: have some control. Yeah, and you know it's a battle.
Speaker 1: I don't want to take get it right, but you know,
Speaker 1: I think they also need to be savvier. I think
Speaker 1: every generation feels so uncomfortable that the next generations shift
Speaker 1: and every way. But um, like, if you don't make
Speaker 1: them native and figure it out, I think because they
Speaker 1: have to solid one day without you. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: get stressed out to like everyone else. My kids were
Speaker 1: so excited they discovered Google docs, and they would think
Speaker 1: they were being so devious and davous. They would say
Speaker 1: hello and they'd send a doc, like laughing hysterically and
Speaker 1: like all right, okay, so many more possibilities. But I'm
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