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Speaker 1: Hi, I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling. Railvalry. No, no, sibling,

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Speaker 1: don't do that with your mouth revelry. That's good. We

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Speaker 1: had two of the four Gloomackay sisters w n B

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Speaker 1: A Sissy's Sane and Erica. Sane is a two time

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Speaker 1: w NBA All Star of the La Sparks, our home team,

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Speaker 1: and as an NBA analyst for ESPN. Erica also was

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Speaker 1: recently drafted to the w NBA and was accepted to

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Speaker 1: medical school, so she has a decision to make. One

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Speaker 1: of the things that we talked about was women in sports,

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Speaker 1: the importance of really highlighting and recognizing like how incredible

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Speaker 1: these female athletes are. They don't really get their do

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Speaker 1: and it's and it's time that they do it really is.

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Speaker 1: We talked about that stuff with the girls, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, how to promote the game, what needs

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Speaker 1: to get done. Kobe was a big part of that,

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Speaker 1: and you know, for the there's many reasons why it's

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Speaker 1: devastating that he's gone and this is definitely one of them.

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean he had his he had he

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Speaker 1: had a he had his hooks into the w NBA

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Speaker 1: and into women's ball and was going to make it big.

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Speaker 1: You know, you just sort of felt that she had

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Speaker 1: such a great story about and I won't ruin it.

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Speaker 1: That's great and it does show how sportive Kobe was

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Speaker 1: for the w NBA and basketball and anybody really, but

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Speaker 1: I loved hearing about how they got into basketball. And

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Speaker 1: they are Nigerian. We talked a lot about that, very

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Speaker 1: traditional you know, parents for generation. Actually we well that's

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Speaker 1: a perfect segue because we jumped right into talking about

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Speaker 1: their parents. So yeah, you hear it when you when

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Speaker 1: you finish hearing us talking, it's going to be literally

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Speaker 1: boom about their parents, boom about their parents. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: You ready, three two one? Now did you? But your

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Speaker 1: parents were together in Nigeria and both came to the

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Speaker 1: United States, so it's funny they met in the US.

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Speaker 1: So basically, yeah, Nigerians tend to send their kids to

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Speaker 1: school in places where they know other Nigerians. And ironically,

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Speaker 1: my dad's family, my mom's family both sent themselves and

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Speaker 1: their family like their siblings to Colorado and Utah like,

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Speaker 1: so they knew people there and then they linked up

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Speaker 1: there because Nigerian's like, they're not many out there, so rageous.

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Speaker 1: So they met each other there and then they both

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Speaker 1: went to Weber State and then got married. Wow, we're

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Speaker 1: in Colorado, Greeley, Greeley. I know Greeley. I have no

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Speaker 1: idea where Greeley. And then so where were you guys? Born?

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Speaker 1: Hous Houston, Houston. Yeah, then they moved to Houston. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He got a job after Weaver State for Comepack, which

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Speaker 1: is like technically worked at Iomega first. I just learned

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Speaker 1: Worked at Iomega, then got a job at Compact that

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Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, they you know, moved to Houston,

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Speaker 1: have pop out four girls and here we are four

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Speaker 1: getting her MBA from Rice University, so she's like doing

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Speaker 1: I have the whole what's it called tech Medical Texas

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Speaker 1: Medical Center. It's like right there. So were you playing

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Speaker 1: played at Rice. Yeah. Okay, So you did you get

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Speaker 1: a scholarship to go to Stanford. Correct. I mean, your

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Speaker 1: we're exceptional in the entertainment industry, exactly, exactly, Okay, do

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Speaker 1: we try to I took intro to acting at Pepine

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Speaker 1: that up. How did basketball come into the equation for

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Speaker 1: we were four girls and like, no, we're growing up.

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Speaker 1: So I was ten? This was nineteen two thousand and two.

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Speaker 1: Were you into basketball at the time, like watching the sport? No,

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Speaker 1: dad's name is Peter Peter. Was he born with Peter

425
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 1: though yes, technically it's like his middle name though here's

426
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 1: but so Peter, Chiso and are well it was your

427
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: your grandparents look religious, it's Peter from the Bible. Your

428
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 1: dad's name. Our dad's a junior to so yeah Peter.

429
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're from southeastern part of Nigeria where Ebo,

430
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: so like Nigeria's Ebo house I you're about. Typically the

431
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: main ethnic groups were Ebo. And yeah, my dad, his

432
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: father's name was Peter Ogik and then my dad is

433
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 1: the first born son Peter okay junior. So he's sort

434
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: of like now the heir, the patriot of our current

435
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: modern family. If we had a brother Peter, yeah for sure,

436
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: or so growing up though, how much tradition was Nigerian

437
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: tradition was brought into your house. I mean we were

438
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: in a Nigerian home, so like we ate Nigerian food

439
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: all the time. On weekends, we're going to see other

440
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: of our aunties and uncles, which even though they're family friends,

441
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 1: it's like everybody's young. I thought I was related to

442
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: so many people growing up, but yeah, that was a

443
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: culture is like a huge part of us. Like we

444
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 1: still go back. I go back at least every year.

445
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: They go back every year. So I've been gone since

446
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: high school because of college and stuff, but I'll be

447
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: going back now. Yeah. Yeah, but like, yeah, we grew

448
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: up with a huge appreciation for our culture and our

449
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 1: heritage and we sort of like yeah now sort of

450
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: like are trying to teach people a little bit about it.

451
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: And I think like now, especially in Hollywood, you're starting

452
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: to see, as you mentioned, like more Nigerians out there,

453
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: and you can I always say, like if you know one,

454
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: you could sort of spot them off right. And did

455
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 1: you grow up in was it a Nigerian neighborhood or

456
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: was it no burbs urbs? You were like borderline country,

457
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,719
Speaker 1: not country, but Bootball, Texas. But we were born in Tumbull, Texas.

458
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: But we were we grew up in Spring, Texas. This

459
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: is all like suburbs of Houston. But now we went

460
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: to high schools and like later later middle school and

461
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 1: high school in Cyprus, Texas. So we're always in Houston,

462
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: always the suburbs of Houston. Yeah. But yeah, like she's

463
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: the one who probably talks with the most Texan accent

464
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: out of all of us. I heard that. I heard that.

465
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: Did it? No way? I swear to god, I did.

466
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I hear the little my mom.

467
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: They always say that, but I don't think so. But

468
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: when I went to Pepperdine, they were like, oh my god.

469
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: I was like what. I was like, y'all sound weird.

470
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: You just said y'all. So there you go. Okay. It's

471
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: funny because you're in the middle of like this huge,

472
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: mega I think, like the fourth largest city in the US,

473
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 1: super diverse, super metropolitan. But like the minute you get out,

474
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: like past fifteen minutes, like it's just country. I didn't

475
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: realize where am I. I didn't realize. So I came

476
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: home back home from Stanford, like left home for the

477
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,719
Speaker 1: first time. I was like, we're going to our neighborhood, Like, oh,

478
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: there's like a ranch right next to our neighborhood, Like

479
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: cows are on Like we just went john on the

480
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: other day and we saw cows on the loose. No, yeah,

481
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: how cute. During quarantine, we work out at this park

482
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: and there's literally cows every day and cows and goats

483
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: and I think it's so normal, but like's like, what, Yeah,

484
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: it's not normal. And you don't think of Houston like that.

485
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,479
Speaker 1: Did you girls? Did all? Did all your girls get

486
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: along growing up? Or was there was there tens the fighting? Yeah,

487
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: we got along. We got along for the most part.

488
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: I was a little menace growing up. Oh my god,

489
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: I just we got along. But I was just the youngest,

490
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: so it was always something that bothered me. So Necho

491
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: would pick out our clothes every single day for school,

492
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: and she would literally go on word and make a

493
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: thing and it would be like, do you want to

494
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: wear a dress or a skirt? And we would have

495
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: to circle it and then we'd push it under her door.

496
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: And so this actually happens. Actually, yeah, So we would

497
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: circle what we wanted and then we'd slide it under

498
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: her door and then in the morning she woke up

499
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes before, so she would pick our clothes out.

500
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: I don't think I ever liked an outfit she picked up.

501
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: I always everything will went out weep. But how that

502
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: that's the cutest thing ever that she actually like helped you. Yeah,

503
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: and I didn't. I took you for organized and you're like,

504
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: this is terrible everything. I'd be like, I don't want

505
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: to wear this. She'd be trying to get me to match,

506
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: and I, yeah, I didn't want to match. She was

507
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: difficult for no reason, Like, but you know that's how

508
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: the youngest are. They like got to fend for themselves. Yeah,

509
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I know that's so true

510
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: because I have two boys and a little girl. And

511
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: my little girl she's super feminine, but she's tough as shit,

512
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: Like she wants to wrestle and she wants to get

513
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: in there. I mean she has to to fight for

514
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: her spot. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah. We didn't fight physically though,

515
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: because of all girls, I guess, but we definitely fought

516
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: with words. Oh yeah, words can hurt more than I

517
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: want to know what that's like. I mean, you know,

518
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: as a girl with all brothers. I don't. I never

519
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: had that experience. I didn't know you know what I mean. Yeah,

520
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: it would be so nice. It feels like it would

521
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: be such a nice relief to like fight with words

522
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: and to actually like because girls listen to what we

523
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: say to each other, you know what I mean, Like

524
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: you're you'll pick up on every word. You know. That's

525
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: so funny because I feel like I wish we could

526
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: just actually fight. Yeah, they like a lot of guys

527
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: will just fight and then you see them go play

528
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: video games like two seconds later, like they're good because

529
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: they hashed it out. Like us, it's like you're holding

530
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: a grudge and then and then you need to like

531
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: you need something for them, so you're like, hey, can

532
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: you give me the So it's just awkward and like

533
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: the way things were quelled in our household, which is

534
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: actually funny. Our mom made us like all decide on

535
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: the same like show to watch, like everyone had to

536
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: say so like we'd be fighting and then we don't

537
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: be seen what do you want to watch? Okay? Oh

538
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: god that One of the worst times in parenting for

539
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: me is when it's family movie night. Okay, and then

540
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, what do we watch it and

541
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: it starts off super exciting, we got popcorn, and then

542
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: it devolves into just hell because no one can decide

543
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: on the movie. Everyone's yelling I don't want this. One

544
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: person leaves and isn't watching that and find me. I'm

545
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: like this, I'm done with it. There is no movie night.

546
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: We're done. We're done. O good? Was was your was

547
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: your dad? Did they want a boy? There's four of

548
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: you girls? Were they trying for a boy? So? I

549
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: think they probably were trying for a boy. But one

550
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: thing that we love about our dad is like coming

551
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: from Africa where you know, in Africa, it's extremely patriarchal

552
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: culture and society, right, Like a lot of times boys

553
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: are the status of like family through generations. You need

554
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: a boy because he carries on the name, like that

555
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: means a lot. Well, my dad had four girls and

556
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: so like he's often and he's the first son. He's

557
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: like the air, like I said, the patriarch of our family.

558
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: And a lot of people would go to him in

559
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: the Nigerian culture and just say, hey, like don't you

560
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: need a son, like you have four girls? And he said,

561
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: my four girls are better than all your sons. Like

562
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: he never really cared. And I think, like, you know,

563
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: we talk about girl dads now, he was really a

564
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: girl dad because like from the beginning, it's not easy

565
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: to like hear your peers say, oh, why are your

566
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: girls wearing jerseys? Like why are they like you know,

567
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: not cooking and cleaning in the kitchen. Why aren't they

568
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: speaking ebo or natural language. Our parents knew we were

569
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: taking care of school and that we were doing things

570
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: to help each other and also play sports. They saw that.

571
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: He saw that and for him to like make the

572
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: conscious decision to like constantly uplift us in the midst

573
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: of like those preconceived ideas about like what girls are

574
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: back home, I think he just sort of wanted like

575
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: he used this as like ha ha, like I'm gonna

576
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: go get society like and so I think that's where

577
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: we get all of our confidence from. Honestly, Like our

578
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: mom is a badass woman, like she plays no games,

579
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: but our dad is the one who sort of taught

580
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: us like, look, no one can stand in your way.

581
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: You know, we're black women. We were in industries like

582
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm in sports in the w NBA. They constantly compare

583
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: us to the men. You know she's playing basketball as well,

584
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: where they like always make these comparisons, so like he's

585
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: we didn't realize until like we entered the real world,

586
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: like graduating college, Like, oh, so this is how we

587
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: have to deal with like the entire broad spectrum of things,

588
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: Like our dad didn't give us boundaries. So I think

589
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: we're super grateful that, like we're starting to realize, Wow,

590
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: like we are really the lucky ones, Like most people

591
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: don't have that experience. I think lucky though they hoping

592
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: I was a boy, Oh for sure, for sure, I

593
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: think there was a moment whether like the doctor says, oh,

594
00:30:53,000 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: it's another girl and you got do you guys still

595
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: do you guys stay connected to Nigerian culture? I mean,

596
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: is that still a big part of your of your life?

597
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: Huge part? I think even more so now growing up.

598
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm appreciating it even more cause it's kind of now

599
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: they started it growing up, but it's now my obligation

600
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: to still like try to learn more and stay in touch.

601
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: So like I've personally like been listening to more Nigerian music,

602
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: like and all acrobeats are popular like throughout the US

603
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: now too, so it's not even hard to like find

604
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: Nigerian artists. And it's funny because like in our culture,

605
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: if you think about occupations, like the joke is like

606
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: you must be a doctor or a lawyer and that

607
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: is it. Or engineer or engineer you're a or engineer

608
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: and that is it. But now, like there's so many

609
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: great creatives out there. One of our friends is Ivan Ougi,

610
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: who just came out with a really cool HBO special

611
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: in comedy. Like, there are a lot of athletes, Like

612
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: there's Anthony Joshua that's doing great stuff in boxing. We're

613
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: obviously in basketball, Like yeah, there are are. You're starting

614
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: to see a few, like no people of like Nigerian

615
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: heritage that are doing the other. But to get there,

616
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: we've had to be like all right, get your degree,

617
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: like you got to go to college, yeah, and then

618
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: you work on your like side hustle until that side

619
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: hustle could be your main hustle. But like I do

620
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: get hit by a lot of people, like even I

621
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: think some of our friends that are Nigerian, like, hey,

622
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: my parents don't understand. Yeah they ask us and a

623
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: struggle yeah, and I think that's what I was like, Wow,

624
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: our parents aren't really like understanding like what you know,

625
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: So I feel really fortunate. And people even joke about

626
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: me because I'm going to med schools too and stuff.

627
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, typical Nigerian and I'm just like really,

628
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I swear my parents did not make

629
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: me do it, like I actually want to do it,

630
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, sure, they've probably made you, but no,

631
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: Like when I told my parents I wanted to be

632
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: pre met, they were like, are you sure they didn't

633
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: want me to do it because they were like, this

634
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: looks hard, but yeah, so I was like, yeah, I

635
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: do it. So I think our parents were ahead of

636
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Speaker 1: the game. Well it's like what you're saying, like the

637
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: night like okay, being a patriarchal sort of culture right

638
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,959
Speaker 1: as you were saying, what does feminism look like in

639
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: that culture? Oh man, it looks like honestly, just us

640
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: defying expectations, right. Like. So one of the coolest things

641
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: I've done. I sort of fell into like broadcasting. Currently

642
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: work for ESPN. I'm an NBA analyst, so I like

643
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: report primarily on the NBA, but I taught like all

644
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: sports sort of generally. And one of the coolest things

645
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: the way I got my foot in the door. At

646
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: ESPN was they had something called Sports Center Africa and

647
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: they have like Sports Center Philippines, Sports Center Australia and

648
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: all these cool things, and they did one for Africa

649
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: for the millions of viewers throughout Africa. I was able

650
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: to be a co host and anchor on that show.

651
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: And to me, like I've been in the WBA like

652
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: All Stars fun and like I've gone to NBA games

653
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: and work on that, but like that role was so

654
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: special because knowing like the full circle nature of my career,

655
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: meaning like my parents, like we could have gone back.

656
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: We could have been born in Nigeria, you know, I

657
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: could be in a culture. We could be in a

658
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: culture where like if you say a girl wants to

659
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: play basketball in Nigeria, they'd be like what is she doing?

660
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: Like the infrastructure is not there for girls to find

661
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: success like it is here in America for opportunity. So

662
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: when I was doing that job, I was like this

663
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: is it? Like this is really cool. Literally, all the

664
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: millions of sports fans that are pretty much men, They're

665
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: gonna get their sports news from a black female Nigerian

666
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: American athlete and now hopefully they'll look at their daughters,

667
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: and they'll look at girls differently and say, well, if

668
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: she's talking sports, maybe she can do that too. So

669
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: like all those things I think help us. I always

670
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: tell people like our existence is the resistance, meaning like

671
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: I know right now we're in like a really difficult

672
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: point in society, but even just making it to where

673
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: we are now and doing what we do at a

674
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: high level, that to me is like pushing boundaries. Like

675
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: for her, like it was not easy to watch her

676
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: like go through all those classes and courses, like I

677
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: was an international relations major. I just want to have

678
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: fun with that. You know, she was in the gutter,

679
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: like chemistry, okam like all this stuff, like, oh, I

680
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: feel like this is PTSD. You took those I know

681
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: I got. I got expelled from high school for cheating

682
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: on a chemistry test. So the word chemistry And he's

683
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: not kidding. He literally got expelled from high school. I'm

684
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: trying to think of the worst thing that happened to

685
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: be in high school. The worst thing that happened to

686
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: be in high school was like there was a food fight,

687
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: and because it was happening, you know how things happened,

688
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: you jump and be like whoa me? And my sister

689
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: were the first ones to jump and be like whoa,

690
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: And so the cameras were like they must have thrown

691
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: the first one. So like we had to go, I

692
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: don't you even know this? No, we had to clean

693
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: up the cafeteria. But then we like you know, appealed

694
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: and they realized it. We were nerds. Our mom was

695
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: our principal in middle school, so we just were nerdy.

696
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: But your top was your principal in middle She was

697
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: my assistant principal and then her principal. Yeah, so let's

698
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: really quick, let's know you're that's a whole other podcast.

699
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: So what do your parents do? Yeah, your father works

700
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: for So he has his own company. So he used

701
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: to he's been in technology, he's an engineer, but then

702
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: he started creating his own company that basically takes the

703
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: way I describe it as paper run businesses, which are

704
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: more prevalent in Africa, and he brings them digital. So

705
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: he has his own company. So like during our adolescence,

706
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: pretty much like when we started playing basketball, he was

707
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: on the go twenty four to seven going running his company.

708
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: But then he'd come home for like holidays and major

709
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: games and every like school function. So like he was

710
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: always on the go, but he was always there, our

711
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: manufacturing engineer. Yeah, long story shot, there you go. Our

712
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: mom she had plans to go to law school, but

713
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: when my dad and her moved to Houston, she started

714
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: off as a special ed teacher. Then she became a teacher,

715
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: and then at that school, by the time I was

716
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: in middle school, she was assistant principal, the head of

717
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: discipline of the school. By the time she by the

718
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: time our little sisters were there, she was a principal.

719
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: And now she's the assistant superintendent of our school district

720
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: syd Parity. And then she just got her PhD in

721
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: education this past December. She amazing. Yeah, wait a minute,

722
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: but your mother being the principal or the vice principal

723
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: or the head of disciplinarian, what was that like going

724
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: to the school where your mother's the one who could

725
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: kick your ass. It was harder for me than it

726
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: was for her. Like you guys were lit like so

727
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: for me and my older sister. I will never forget.

728
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: I had a huge test. I was in the seventh grade.

729
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: It's a two story school, Hamilton Middle School, and I

730
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: remember I didn't study. My mom knew I was like

731
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: it was a big one, and I knew I did

732
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: bad when I walked out to lunch because she knows

733
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: where I sit at lunch and she was pacing by

734
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: where I sit in the empty cafeteria and I looked down.

735
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, she's about tear to me. So

736
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: the teacher told her the great butcher told her the

737
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: brother before she told me before I even knew about it.

738
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: And I think she was like sent grenada touring or

739
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: something like that. But they sort of had fun with

740
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: her when she was the principal for us, Like she

741
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: wasn't as much. She still did some discipline things, but

742
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: it was fine, like like they have food, yeah, the

743
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: custodians would like give us food, the cafeteria people. But

744
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: when you never got in trouble to where you had

745
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: to go to your mother, no, that was like that

746
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: was incentive enough to not no yeah no, yeah, instead

747
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: of going to the principal's office, it's like go to

748
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: your mother's yeah yeah, yeah, literally, But I like the

749
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: idea that, like it was her big a principal was

750
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: incentivized enough for you guys to like, incentive enough for

751
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: you to be on your best? Are you not going

752
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: to mom h of course, because like most kids, most

753
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: kids were the discipline ends after you leave her office,

754
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: does not end because you got to go home, Allie Oliver,

755
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: imagine if our mom was the principal of any school,

756
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: the school would just explode that school. I would like

757
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: be at mom's We'd be at mom's office all the time.

758
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, my mom would just call us up

759
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: there because she missed us made the announcement. I know. Yeah,

760
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so funny. Wow. Well, so did

761
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: you play basketball throughout all of like middle school, like

762
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: grade school, middle school, high school? Yes, we bah, yeah,

763
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: basketball and volleyball. You're right, and we liked volleyball, but

764
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: it's hard to do both. But yeah, we Once Necker

765
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: started playing, all of us got information it was mainly

766
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: middle school. High school. Elementary was like, yeah, go ahead.

767
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like my favorite highlight from elementary.

768
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: It came to like our athletic activity. This is like

769
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: speaking to Texas in order to pass to go to

770
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 1: middle school. So like go from fifth grade? O, wait,

771
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, fifth to six? Yeah, fifth to six?

772
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: You had? Was it fifth grade or was it like

773
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: second grade? I can't remember. I don't know what you're

774
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: in the story about. Either way, you had to do

775
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: the Texas two step. So like line dancing, you had

776
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 1: line dancing. You had to pass that in order to graduate.

777
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, are you serious? It was square dancing and

778
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: it was a test. Yeah, that's very Texan. I feel

779
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: like I feel like I would really thrive in a

780
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: school like that. Dance, I mean, dancing to pass was

781
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: like something I had. I would have been the way better.

782
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: Cause Box because you've got cause do have a box.

783
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,799
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784
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785
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,160
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786
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:14,960
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787
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,480
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788
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795
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836
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: Like Nekka was, she was the first and she was

837
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: she was drafted by Which team? Did she go number

838
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: one overall? Yeah? So they both went number one over Yeah,

839
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: they both went number one overall, Sparks. She went, Necka

840
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: went to the Sparks. They went two years later to

841
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: the Connecticut twenty twelve. Neck was drafting number one to

842
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: the Sparks twenty fourteen. I was drafted to the Connecticut SNYA,

843
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: you are that's fucking crazy, man, amazing, that's insane. So

844
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: what was it like seeing your older sister get drafted

845
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: number one? Where were you at? Like, how did that

846
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: all play out? It was nuts? So that's huge. That

847
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: whole senior year. So we were at Stanford together. We

848
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: were having fun and she like she had a tremendous

849
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: senior year. So I'm like, you know, like you have

850
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: different personalities as siblings. She's one that like is just

851
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 1: going and coasting, like she's killing it. She's like naturally

852
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: a boss. Right, She's already been WNBA MVP. She's been

853
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: a WBA champion. She's the w NBA our Players Association president,

854
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: so like as cool as we are, we're just the

855
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: trouble makers. Probably she's a legit one. She's legit. So

856
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: it's just funny because her senior year in college, So

857
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: her senior year, my sophomore year, I'm the one, the

858
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: sister that's always like reading the blogs, right, like ready

859
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: to defend the sisters, right, she's controlling. Yeah, So I

860
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: was reading this blog and I was like, yo, this

861
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: is crazy, Like Mekka, they're saying that, like you about

862
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: to get drafted into the WNBA. Like again, remember when

863
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: we played basketball. We just are playing and having fun

864
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: and like finding success. We didn't know that there was

865
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: an after or next. And Sonaca's like, I think I

866
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: want to go to medical school. I don't know if

867
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: I want to, like, you know, do anything else. I

868
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: was like, no, no no, no, no, you're not reading this.

869
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: They're saying you're getting picked number one overall. So we

870
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: literally are going into the March Madness Tournament, her final tournament,

871
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: the final games of our career, and she's like, oh,

872
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't know I'm gonna I'm like no, no no, no, no,

873
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: no no, noa, you're getting drafted into w BA. And

874
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: eventually she sort of started to understand the hype. A

875
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: lot of people like growing up like that's their dream.

876
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 1: Imagine like senior year in college, she's like, oh, okay,

877
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 1: this is kind of cool. Wow. So it was witnessed

878
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: that just because like we didn't know that that was

879
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: an expectation that could happen. And then we're like, whoa,

880
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 1: so I remember, how is it different for you? Then?

881
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like wait, wait, wait where

882
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: were you when you found out that Neka got Okay?

883
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: So I was there. So the draft happened in Connecticut

884
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: at the ESPN headquarters, So you guys weren't right. It

885
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 1: was myself and my mom. I can't even remember, it's

886
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: likely just can't remember. Like we just didn't We didn't

887
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: understand the importance of all this. It was just happening.

888
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: No one sat us down and explained what was happening exactly.

889
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: So I wasn't there with my parents because Neck and

890
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 1: I two peas in a pod you know, older too,

891
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: And I remember watching that. I was like, yo, this

892
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: is dope. And so two years so it was amazing

893
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: to see that happen but that sort of like planted

894
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: the seat of my had. So then I had my

895
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: junior and senior year when she was playing in the WNBA.

896
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I want that experience you. I

897
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: want to be number one. And so the irony, the

898
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: coolest part about it was the draft was still in Connecticut,

899
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: but this time for me in twenty fourteen. It was

900
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 1: at Mohegan Sun Casino. I don't know if you guys

901
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: been to that casino. Yeah, that's where it is a

902
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: lot of concerts. Yeah, yea. So it was at that casino,

903
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: which is the home side of the Connecticut son who

904
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: had the number one pick. So I was literally sitting

905
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 1: there Necka sitting next to me, my parents and my uncle,

906
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like freaking out, like going nuts and nervous,

907
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: which everyone was like laughing at me because you know

908
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: you're number one, like of course, but you think you

909
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: never know until you're drafted. And so they like they

910
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: call my name and I just look at neck and

911
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: we're just sort of like, how has this happened? Like

912
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: this is crazy? And I was so crazy that when

913
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: they called my name for about like twelve seconds, I

914
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: was like I sort of like blacked out. I was

915
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: like necka literally was like come on, I get together,

916
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: go whoa you know. I was like okay, like I'm

917
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: that crazy emotional type. And then so the crazy the

918
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: cool thing was that like it was literally in an

919
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: arena pact of my future fans because they had the

920
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: number one pick fans were there. I was there for

921
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: a concert and I remember the audience being like super

922
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: low key, like not a very energetic. It was like,

923
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: because they're all old, it would be interesting playing sports there. Yeah.

924
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: So the thing about Connecticut is that, like, yes, very

925
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: much older crowd. I spent my first five years in

926
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: my career there, but you can't women's basketball, Like probably

927
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: only the most successful women's basketball program is there. So

928
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: like all of their fan base like loves women's basketball.

929
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: So like when as like women's basketball players were always

930
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: fighting for respect because like people are always like trying

931
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: to shade us for no reason. But in that state,

932
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: they support women's basketball. So yes, they're a little bit

933
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: more chill, but they come to the games, you know

934
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: what I mean. Let's talk about that for a second. Though.

935
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: The w n b A, the NBA, you know, the

936
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: success of the WNBA, you know, just your feelings on

937
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: how to move forward with it. Look, Kobe Bryant for me,

938
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that was one of the crazier days of

939
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: my life. I was so upset and I didn't really

940
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: understand why I met him one time, but he represented

941
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: something for me. Gianna as well. I think with him,

942
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: with Kobe and the work that he was doing, it

943
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: was pushing. It was going to be pushing girl ball,

944
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: it was going to be pushing the WNBA. Jihana was

945
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: going to be something great, and it was almost like

946
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 1: Kobe was going to be the one to really bring

947
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: the w NBA to where it should be. Right. I mean,

948
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: there's so many tragedies, you know, but that's definitely one

949
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: of them. You know. So where are you girls at

950
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: with the w NBA currently and how do we how

951
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: do we even make it even more hype? How do

952
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: we make it even as bigger than it all? By

953
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: you even like acknowledging us is awesome and Kate like

954
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: for you sharing, you know, like your point of view

955
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: on sports on your platform, that like changes the narrative

956
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: of what people think girls should be, you know, like

957
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: as athletes, as confident women, Like that's just what we're

958
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: all about. In the w NBA, and I think, as

959
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: you mentioned, when it came to Kobe, I was in

960
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: La I was downtown. It was the Grammys day in

961
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: which the news happened in which he passed, and I

962
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: heard about it, and I, you know, I worked for ESPN,

963
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: So next thing, you know, like I'm the only one

964
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: in La Live watching. Yeah, I was. I was in Houston.

965
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: I was taking a piano class at Rice. So I

966
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: was about to go practice a piano and my friend

967
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: NERD okay whatever. My friend texted me and was like,

968
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 1: is this real? Ask your sister because she works for ESPN.

969
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: So I called Senane. She was like I don't know.

970
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:50,959
Speaker 1: I don't know, and she was like my phone's blowing

971
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: up and she had to like hang up and I

972
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, yeah, and it was. It

973
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: was crazy. And so being downtown in La Live and

974
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: like she called me, my necka called me, and I

975
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: was like, let me just go into our studios, which

976
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: is right there, to confirm. And so I looked in

977
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: the studios and like the headline was there and it

978
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: was just like that was Grammy's day. So like when

979
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: I started walking, I was going to walk to Whole

980
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 1: Foods and like the Grammars were on, so you see

981
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: people walking in tuxas downtown and like beautiful dresses. And

982
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: then next thing, you know, over the course of an hour,

983
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: as people discover the news, I started seeing people like

984
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: in Jerseys, I saw someone bring a bouquet, like within

985
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: an hour of the news, like a mural already being

986
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: put up, and like, yeah, a lot of people felt

987
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: like you said, Kobe was bigger than sports, Like his mentality,

988
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: his mama mentality is something that we all, like, what

989
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: your craft of acting and entertainment for us in basketball,

990
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: Like we all it sort of resonated with us. He

991
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: was that first real, like real ally that we needed

992
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: in the women's basketball community. I always tell people that, like,

993
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: we don't need these guys to co sign us because

994
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: if they really know, they know that we are the

995
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: best women's basketball league in the world. Only one hundred

996
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: and forty four women get to play in the w

997
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: so like, yes, we're a lead full of badass women.

998
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: Like every time I always tell people, like you look

999
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: at the WNBA and it's like that song like a

1000
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like you can run it

1001
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: and the kind of women into WNBA and like we're always,

1002
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, on the forefront of social activism and standing

1003
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: up for causes that we're passionate about. Kobe saw that

1004
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: and he understood it and he championed it. And it's

1005
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: really tough because like not only losing Kobe, but also Gigi,

1006
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: Like she was the one that he said, look, I

1007
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: don't we're talking about sons, Like, I don't need a son.

1008
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: This is a girl, dad. She is the one that's

1009
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: gonna rock my name on the back and really change

1010
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: the game for us. So it really hurt us because

1011
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: we had seen her at our WNB games. We saw

1012
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: him like that season of this past season, the US

1013
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: women's national team came and played in LA. He obviously

1014
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: brings his daughters to every major women's event because he's

1015
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: like trying to put them and show them, you know, greatness,

1016
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: and he's been a great mentor for all of us

1017
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: in that. And so our Sparks team was there. He

1018
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: had a suite. We're all watching and supporting the US

1019
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: women's national team. He invites us to the suite and

1020
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: so we go in there thinking like, oh, shoot, we

1021
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: get this cool photo op with Kobe, right, and then

1022
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: we end up staying there for forty five minutes. Our

1023
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: coach now this past season, Derek Fisher Laker legend, right,

1024
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: and so we're trying to pay that right. Meeting Kobe

1025
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: then it just showed us that as passionate as he

1026
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 1: was about basketball, is how he was about his love

1027
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: for his daughters, and that translated to us as women,

1028
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: like he was here to help us because he saw

1029
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: us sort of as like daughters of the game and

1030
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. So yeah, we like it. Just

1031
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: oh yeah, And there was like a and he's been

1032
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: the firston forever I'll never forget. Like when I was

1033
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: at Stanford my freshman year, we played at Staples for

1034
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve tournament, and Staples is obviously the Lakers

1035
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: locker room. I did the corny thing of saying, like, Yo,

1036
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: if we win, I'm gonna write a note to Kobe.

1037
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: And so we won and we're leaving the locker room.

1038
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: They're like, tone, you're gonna leave your note. So I

1039
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 1: ripped a piece of paper and wrote a note, Dear

1040
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: Coby Kobe, thank you for letting us. He's your locker room,

1041
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: Like probably the corniest thing ever. Right, you're killing it.

1042
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: This season. We're rooting for you. Sincerely, Chenee and Stanford

1043
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: women's basketball. Like everyone talks about his attention to detail.

1044
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: This happened in twenty eleven and a few days later,

1045
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: we're at practice at Stanford and our coach calls like

1046
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: says my name, like at the end of the huddle

1047
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: before we leave Chaney. And I was like, Oh, shoot,

1048
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: what I do? Because I was that type of person

1049
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: that like didn't do something that caused us to run occasionally.

1050
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: And I was like, Oh, shoot, what I do. She's

1051
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: like toay, did you leave a note for Kobe in

1052
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: the locker room at stables. I was like, our whole

1053
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: team just starts jumping up and down because they knew

1054
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: I did. He got that scrap of paper from his

1055
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: locker and then followed up reached out to a trainer

1056
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: he was working with the Lakers to contact us at

1057
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: Stanford to tell us that he was proud of us

1058
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: for winning the tournament, good luck, strive for greatness and

1059
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 1: everything that you do. So like he was doing those

1060
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: types of things for female athletes, for women, for women period,

1061
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: like in the sport, that understood what he represented, you know,

1062
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: throughout his life. So that's why we love Kobe. It

1063
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: makes makes me want to cry. I know. Fuck man, Well,

1064
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: where do you think the w n B A is

1065
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 1: right now? You mean? I mean where? Where? Where do

1066
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 1: we need to go? Like? How how does it keep growing? Oh? Well,

1067
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: we're trending in the right direction, honestly, Like if you

1068
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: look at our marketing dollars spent like with Jersey sales,

1069
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: if you look at our streaming numbers. There's a lot

1070
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: of fake news out there when it comes to the WBA,

1071
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: Like it's so socially acceptable for no offense those week

1072
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: I don't want to say weird kids that probably are

1073
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: like teenagers that think it's like cool when they see

1074
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: a w BA, they'll be like kitchen or y'all are trash,

1075
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: Like they just put that automatically, not understanding that they're

1076
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: judging a game upon which they don't even know on

1077
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: top of it, But does that happen a lot? That

1078
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: happens a lot? Was so terrible. I think we're at

1079
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: this point in society, which is really great, like where

1080
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: we don't just like let those things ride and slide,

1081
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: like we actually call them out. So now I think

1082
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: people are starting to see the WNBA for what it

1083
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: is like a league full of amazing women, women that

1084
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: are leaders, women that are amazing like savages on the court.

1085
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: And so now we're also putting ourselves out there like

1086
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: as individuals like me, I'm also a broadcaster. She's going

1087
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: to medical school. We have so many women doing cool

1088
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: different things, Like there are women that are now coaches

1089
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: in the NBA right now, Like one of my teammates

1090
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: is a coach for the Washington Wizards as well. It's

1091
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: so awesome. You know, we can't wait on the men

1092
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: to help us get validation. You didn't earn anything, you

1093
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: know what I mean from a man. You earned it

1094
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: from yourself, you know, on the merit of your own skill.

1095
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: It was a man who fueled me to earn any

1096
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: It was a lack of that that helped me feel

1097
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: thank you exactly. But even like if you think about

1098
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: your mom, just like paving the way and setting an

1099
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: example for you, another woman that sort of could say, hey,

1100
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: this is what you need to know and what you

1101
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: don't you know, Like that to me is so big

1102
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: when it comes to women's sports in general. We're realizing

1103
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: that in this time, all right, maybe people will continue

1104
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: to comparison men. Maybe people will still think that we're

1105
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 1: less than the men. Well, who cares. I've got us

1106
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: women's soccer that's out here winning World Cups. I've got

1107
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: us women's hockey that's out here fighting for a one

1108
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: league in the WNBA. We just negotiated a new collective

1109
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: bargaining agreement where we accomplish like paid maternity leave for

1110
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: women and you know, better compensation and salary. And then

1111
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: like even more general, like it's not just in sports

1112
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: where all of us are coming together and helping each other.

1113
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: You remember in twenty sixteen with the Women's March, Like

1114
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: obviously that was a huge moment for women. We were like,

1115
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: hold up, we rolled deep, Like we roll this deep.

1116
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: They don't have to hear us, you know what I mean? So, like,

1117
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: I think coming together as women, women's supporting women, women

1118
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: creating opportunities for other women Like that to me can

1119
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: change the game. But now what for you? When did

1120
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: you you? You just got drafted right like two months

1121
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 1: ago in quarantine. Yeah, in quarantine we had a virtual draft.

1122
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: I actually put it on my YouTube channel. It was

1123
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: really cool. Yeah, and tell us how to tell us

1124
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: how that went down? I mean, yeah, you whereas were

1125
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 1: all together. Yeah, I wasn't like my sisters to where

1126
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: I was going to be a number one draft pick,

1127
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: like I've had a successful college career, and so they

1128
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: were just like, it's a virtual draft, you know, record

1129
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: what you're wearing. You know. They tried to tell us,

1130
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: but I wasn't a first I wasn't number one draft

1131
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: pick like them. I didn't know if I was going

1132
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: to get drafted. It was like up in the air,

1133
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: you know. I went to Rice University. It's a great

1134
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: number fifteen academically and like basketball wise, we did really well.

1135
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: I did well, but it's not like a Yukon Stanford,

1136
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: you know. So I was just They're like, hey, you're

1137
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: going to get drafted, and I just didn't know. So

1138
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: that's why this whole year I was preparing for med school.

1139
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: I was doing med school interviews while playing basketball. But yeah,

1140
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: so I we just all went to one house and

1141
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: put on ESPN, and we truly did not know when

1142
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: I was going to get picked. Like every single they're like,

1143
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: and the number ten pick, We're just like because we

1144
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: just didn't. We did not know whatsoever. So it was

1145
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: like it was probably a true Joe was the first

1146
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: real true draft. Yeah, because the rest of them, they

1147
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: both knew they were number one. So then they picked.

1148
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: They called my name at the twenty sixth pick, and

1149
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: it was funny because I was drafted to the New

1150
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: York Liberty. So we were like jumping and cheering and

1151
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: all that stuff. It was really cool. It was like, oh,

1152
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: wi me in New York. And then first trade of

1153
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: the draft, They're like, word is Erico Glumik was traded

1154
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: to the Minnesota Lynx And I was like, whoa, I'm

1155
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: just recording this from my YouTube channel too, so like

1156
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: I had it up and like I had to forewarn

1157
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: my subscribers, like don't read my face. Like I was

1158
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: just in shock. I promised, I was excited. I was

1159
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: just in the context behind it is that the Minnesota

1160
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: Links are like the rivals of the Sparks. Yeah, especially

1161
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: the only rival team of the Sparks, the only one.

1162
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: Two of us are on the Sparks. And now she's

1163
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: traded to our rival. Oh my god. Wow, So that

1164
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: was crazy. I was like the first trade of the draft.

1165
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: But honestly though, I was like excited because if you're traded,

1166
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: that means they really want you and they just had

1167
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to get you. So, like

1168
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, you know, that's awesome to know

1169
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: that a team really wanted me. Like, so you guys

1170
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: are going to be playing against each other as like rivals.

1171
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: It's possibly. Yes, yes, wow, fun, that sounds fun. I know.

1172
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm trying to put myself in that position,

1173
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: like if that was us, Oliver I had, if I

1174
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, how would it look. Yeah, it would be fun. Fun,

1175
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: And he did, I just post you up. That's what

1176
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna do to me. That's what she'll do

1177
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: to you, of course, right. I mean, so for five

1178
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: years I played against Neka, so I was with the

1179
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: Connecticut Sun before I got traded to the Sparks to

1180
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: play with her. Let me tell you that first game

1181
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: first of all, Higher Africa was there because that was

1182
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: the first time. That was the first time we played

1183
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: against each other. And when we played, so the jump

1184
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: all happened, and of course, like sisters are on the

1185
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: jump ball, the Mecca's got more bunnies than me, so

1186
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: she got it, which was cool. But you know me,

1187
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: the corny one like where we have to match up

1188
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: against each other, She's running back. She'sa I was like

1189
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: telling that, was like, yeah, this is gonna be fun.

1190
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: She didn't even hear me. They went straight to her

1191
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: on the block. She hit me with like a fad

1192
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: away bucket, and I was like, oh, I better come

1193
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: ready because Mechel was ready to roast. I held my

1194
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: own dough. I held my own but I knew the

1195
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: first possession she was coming for me. How how how

1196
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: many times have you guys gone up against each other?

1197
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: It really sucks for me because like my team at

1198
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: the time was bad, Like we I think we won

1199
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: like maybe nine games my first year or so. Because

1200
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: typically you have the number one draft pick that means yeah,

1201
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, And so we started from the

1202
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: bottom that we're here right the first few years, I

1203
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: think I took I got my butt by neck of

1204
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: like the first few years. And then the last few

1205
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: years our team started to get better because we got

1206
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: more draft picks we got, you know, and then we

1207
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: beat them a couple of times. But then eventually I

1208
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: just my sisters. So a lot of people don't know

1209
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,439
Speaker 1: when you play in the WBA, you played from May

1210
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: to October. Typically October to May, WBA players go and

1211
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: play overseas. So I played in Italy, I played in China,

1212
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: and Neck has played in Poland, China and Russia for

1213
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: a couple of years. So like I barely ever since

1214
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: my sister graduated Stamford, I barely seen her. She's been

1215
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: in the WNBA or in China or one of those countries,

1216
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: and so I felt like it was important for our family,

1217
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: like we were missing each other. So after five years,

1218
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: I was very lucky that the Connecticut Sun traded me

1219
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: to La So now we can hang out at least

1220
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: during the summertime. Well now, but when you were playing

1221
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: each other, would you have to hold your like love

1222
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: for each other or were you like fuck it? Like ah,

1223
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: So like I'm trying to remember what happened exactly, but

1224
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: like I remember I was on the free throw line

1225
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: and they were being us, and you know, like people

1226
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: are nicer when they're beating you. So I was standing

1227
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: next to the neka and that's just like your shoes untied,

1228
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: I don't shoes on tied. Its god like I was salty,

1229
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: but she that makes me more that like makes me

1230
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: more frustrated. And people are nice when they know that

1231
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: you're losing, you're like, don't do that, don't cheer, just

1232
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: cheer when y'all would score because we didn't want to

1233
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: cheer for either team. Yeah, such a year forward, right, yes,

1234
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: both of us are forwards. Yeah, okay, you're five night

1235
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: five night point guard. I'm like, yeah, who's the guard

1236
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: shooting guard? Right? Yeah? Yeah? Oh you guys, this is

1237
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: just incredible. I hope that opportunity actually happens, you know

1238
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, you get because we've got two

1239
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: on one right here. I know, I know with the baby,

1240
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: I feel like you might be a little easy on

1241
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: her because she's your baby's sister. Oh you don't like

1242
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: shoot shoot shooting? Yeah, I'm a good Well you could

1243
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: probably cross or over we should. Oh yeah, you know

1244
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: you're quick. I'm sure you're pretty quick, right. Yeah. You know,

1245
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: an athletes, life playing at high level is short. It's

1246
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: not usually a long lived experience. So what do you

1247
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: feel like you're taking from this right now? And then

1248
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 1: where do you want to go with it when that

1249
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: part of your career is over? Yeah? I think you

1250
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: like nailed it, because a lot of athletes don't even

1251
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: realize that. We get in this mind frame of like

1252
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: ball is life, but at some point you're gonna like

1253
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 1: have to hang your shoes up, and it's gonna be done,

1254
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 1: and it comes quicker than you even know. I think,

1255
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: considering that we sort of fell into basketball and fell

1256
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: in love with it, we've already sort of like been

1257
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: destined probably for other things. Like I didn't know that

1258
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: I would go into broadcasting and you know, report on

1259
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: the NBA. Honestly, it happened to me when I got injured.

1260
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Speaker 1: So I learned this Kate when I was injured twice.

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01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: I've had right knee microfracture surgery and left achilles surgery.

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01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: Both injuries take you out for like a year and

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01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: a half. So when she won her state championship, I

1264
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: was at home on crutches, like she won, and I

1265
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: was like crutching, like yeah, let's go. So I learned

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01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: that lesson then that like, oh, sports can go at

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01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: any time, and so I think I started saying yes

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01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: to a lot of opportunities. And she understands this because

1269
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: like this platform that sports gives us is really tremendous.

1270
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: That's why you see a lot of athletes like jumping

1271
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: on causes and you know, using their platforms to create

1272
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: like meaningful change. So for me, I never thought like

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01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: through those injury times and me saying yes, I'm like,

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01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: yeah I'll go on this network, and yeah I'll go

1275
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: and talk to these people. It manifested into like, oh,

1276
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: would you work this women's basketball game? Oh would you

1277
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: host sports in Africa? Oh would be an NBA analyst?

1278
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: Like these things just naturally led one from like one

1279
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: thing to the other. And so I guess for me,

1280
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: it's all about like uplifting women in particular, especially Black women,

1281
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: just because I know it was like doubly hard to

1282
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: try to like you know, make it and then you know,

1283
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 1: keep the positivity and the joy and like not box

1284
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: ourselves in and let like if you saw me, people

1285
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: probably think, oh, like what does she do? Like they

1286
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: don't necessarily know they see my name, you know, just

1287
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: trying to bring all that positivity that sports has brought us.

1288
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: But I know she has like her own point of

1289
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: view because like medical school is a whole other beast. Yeah,

1290
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: I was coughing, just something with my throat. It wasn't

1291
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: like I was trying to talk. It was all for timing.

1292
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think ultimately I didn't even know sports

1293
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: were gonna go past this year because I didn't know

1294
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: I was gonna get drafted. So yeah, I already planned

1295
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: on going to med school becoming a position, and I

1296
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: think I just liked sciences. So that's kind of how

1297
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: the pre med stuff happened. Nobody in my family's done

1298
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: anything medically related. Like whenever I was doing med school interviews,

1299
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: they thought I got accepted to the school and like,

1300
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: so they were cheering and stuff, but I was like, no,

1301
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: it's an interview, or like they didn't like when I

1302
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: press submit, they like were cheering. Okay, she didn't get

1303
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: any of it. She was like, I'm so little key

1304
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: with her medical school. She's like, oh, I think I'm

1305
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: just gonna try to apply to it. I was like,

1306
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, apply to them all. Yeah, and the

1307
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: next you know, she got into nine out of ten

1308
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 1: of her top medical school. Yeah. Oh wow. Yeah, So

1309
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: I just I knew that that was going to be

1310
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do after basketball. I like sciences.

1311
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: I like just like how multi dimensional medicine is. Like

1312
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: I plan on, you know, trying to be like someone

1313
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: in health admin, you know, like working with a lot

1314
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: of people. So you know, I love doctor pimple popper.

1315
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: That's like my ideal job. I want to be a

1316
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: Derman talks on TV like that sounds amazing, you know,

1317
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: so I just and I know she works with so

1318
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: many different other like professions like entrepreneurs, business people, so

1319
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: that sounds so cool to me. So other than basketball,

1320
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: it was something that I learned throughout school that I like.

1321
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: So it's nice to know that basketball is going to continue,

1322
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: but I kind of know what I want to do afterwards,

1323
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: and this is why I'm so, how will that work

1324
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: for you? Yeah? I think with the coronavirus and just

1325
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: everything going on, it's very possible that I'm able to

1326
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: do both this year because school is remote most likely,

1327
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: but if not, I was so scared whenever I told

1328
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: all the med schools that accepted me, I was so nervous,

1329
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: Like that was the reason on the draft day, I

1330
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: wasn't even that happy because I was thinking they were

1331
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: going to take away my acceptances. But every single med

1332
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: school I called was like, this is amazing, like enjoy

1333
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 1: what you're doing, like we're gonna work with you. So

1334
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: I don't really know how it's going to work, but

1335
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: all of them have been so accommodating, and the one

1336
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: school I chose like is super accommodating too, So to

1337
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: be determined how it's going to work out, it will

1338
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 1: work out. So I just I want to talk about

1339
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: just race and growing up and what that was like

1340
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: for you girls, whether it was something that was talked about,

1341
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: you know, in your family with your mom and your dad,

1342
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: and how that just played a part in your childhood

1343
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: and your upbringing and where you're at right now with

1344
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 1: all of it. So we are here, you know, like

1345
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, born and raised in Houston, Texas, and

1346
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: I think right now where the world is like our backyard.

1347
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: Our people are right even though we're Nigerian American, when

1348
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,560
Speaker 1: we step outside, we're black, you know, and we're Black American,

1349
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: and so we have I guess you can say that

1350
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: like intersectionality of like juggling multi identities and so like

1351
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 1: you think about what has happened in our backyard. George

1352
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: Floyd was from Houston, Texas. He went to Yates High School,

1353
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: one of the best basketball programs in sports programs that

1354
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: we always heard of growing up during quarantine. Our dad

1355
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 1: had always been saying, can we drive to Galveston. It's

1356
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 1: like an hour drive out of Houston. Let's drive to Galveston,

1357
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: and so ironic Galveston has the dirtiest water, nothing compared

1358
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 1: to Malady. Why, yeah, my dad wanting to go Like

1359
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: that's how you know, Like it's just not we just

1360
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,440
Speaker 1: like to go on road trips, but like, yeah, don't

1361
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: go there thinking it's yeah Malibu, wa definitely not. But like,

1362
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, it was ironic that we went the day

1363
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 1: after Juneteenth to Galveston and we were just thinking about

1364
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 1: like how we are feeling and how it feels different,

1365
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: especially being in Houston. There's a woman by the name

1366
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: of Sandra Bland that really affected our community as well

1367
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: when it comes to social injustice. So like as black

1368
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 1: women in particular, you know, I think a lot of

1369
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: times women, as you know, like okay, you know, tend

1370
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: to get neglected in the narrative a lot, like whether

1371
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 1: it's with salary, whether it is with opportunity, whether it

1372
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 1: is with raising their voices and actually being heard. Right.

1373
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: So I think the good thing that I've learned actually

1374
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: through sports is that our collective voice matters, which is

1375
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: why I wanted to say, like I'm so glad to

1376
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: be on here with you because as like a huge woman,

1377
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: not just in the industry, but just literally in the world,

1378
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: to share your platform with us, to tell our truths,

1379
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: our stories, our experiences and other women and other siblings.

1380
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 1: It literally, as you know on this podcast, it takes

1381
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: a village, and so as women, the way we see

1382
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 1: the world moving when it comes to race, I think

1383
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: we're starting to realize that we are more alike than

1384
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: we are different. Like we all have struggles, some people

1385
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: struggles are way way more severe, you know, because you know,

1386
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: there's issues of privilege, and there's issues of just you know,

1387
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: us being able to live and move and breathe comfortably

1388
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: in this world. So I guess that's sort of where

1389
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: I said, And I think me personally because I've been

1390
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: in Houston for like pretty much twenty one years, like

1391
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: my whole life. I've been in Houston because I went

1392
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: to Rice University, which is literally in the heart of

1393
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 1: Houston as well, so I have a more so academic

1394
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 1: side as well, because Rice is a research institution and

1395
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: they're a super diverse institution. But I've always been a

1396
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: black student in Houston, a black student in high school,

1397
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 1: so I've been able to connect with a lot of

1398
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: academics at RICE because I think when all of this happened,

1399
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 1: everyone wanted to do something, you know, sign every petition

1400
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: you could, like, they just wanted to do something. And

1401
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to feel like you're doing something,

1402
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: you know, especially at my age. So I've been really

1403
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: involved in trying to get more involved because people don't realize,

1404
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: but there's so many people who do this for a living,

1405
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: you know, trying to amplify voices about voting, about like

1406
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 1: health disparities, just different things like that. They do that

1407
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 1: for a living. So it's been nice being able to

1408
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 1: connect with the community at RICE and Houston in general,

1409
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: to like join initiatives that they're already doing. And I'm

1410
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 1: it's kind of cool knowing that I've been in Houston

1411
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: my whole life and I'm able to, you know, just

1412
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: commit and give back a little, you know, and it's

1413
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: it's just it's a surreal experienced. You did your parents

1414
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: ever touch upon it was when you guys were kids,

1415
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,839
Speaker 1: you know, and have a talk with you or anything

1416
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: like that. I think these are all conversations that like

1417
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: children of black families have, like and you don't even

1418
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: realize that this is just what we have come to accept,

1419
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: not knowing that like for the world, it's just not

1420
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: fair that we have to accept these things. So yeah,

1421
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: like when we go out, you know, it's it's simple

1422
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: as saying, hey, don't be out when the sun goes down,

1423
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: or you know, don't wear a hoodie, or like when

1424
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: you see people, like make sure your hands are free,

1425
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: or when you're driving, you know, like I'm on the phone.

1426
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: I lived in Connecticut for five years and i would

1427
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: drive to ESPN at like three or four in the

1428
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 1: morning and then like at one am at night, and

1429
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: I'm on the phone with my mom the whole time

1430
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm driving, just in case something happens. She's already ready

1431
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: to hear our dad just sort of telling us that, hey,

1432
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: like you need to be prepared at all times, even

1433
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: though we didn't feel or understand necessarily the weight of it.

1434
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 1: This is just how life has always been for us, right,

1435
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: It's almost like in your mind, it's just the norm,

1436
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: which I get why they made it the norm for us,

1437
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 1: so that it definitely became habits and it was just

1438
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: something that we did without thinking. But at the same time,

1439
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: they didn't explain as much like why they were doing it.

1440
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: They're just like you need to know these things. Like

1441
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: even I was jogging today with no headphones on, and

1442
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: every time I passed someone, I made sure I turned

1443
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: my music down, Like why did I do that? But

1444
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 1: it's because my parents told me, you know, like don't

1445
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: cause the scene, don't be loud, things like that, and

1446
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: it's just something that's in our nature. And I get

1447
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: now learning about the world. Why why they did that? Yeah,

1448
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 1: But I also, like, you know, as hard as things

1449
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: have been, like even just thinking about things we didn't

1450
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: let like sit heavy in our soul. Like I remember

1451
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,799
Speaker 1: we talked about being born and raised, born at Tomball

1452
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: Hospital in Texas, Tomball High School. Not to put them

1453
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,799
Speaker 1: on blast, but like I was in a high school

1454
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 1: in Texas. I remember I played a volleyball game and

1455
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: I'm the only you know, black girl on the team.

1456
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 1: I'm like six to two, long day, super long, dangly,

1457
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: super powerful. I was a boss at volleyball at the time.

1458
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: Right we went to state, I remember the crowd was full.

1459
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: I would say ninety nine percent you know white kids.

1460
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: My team primarily white kids that you know, we all

1461
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 1: got along. But like when I was going to the

1462
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 1: quote unquote enemy territorial. Playing against another school, I was

1463
01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 1: called racial epithets. I was called things like animal and ahga, steroids,

1464
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: monkey while I was playing in a quiet gym, and

1465
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 1: I remember my teammates just looked and they just kept

1466
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 1: looking at me, like no one even talked about it,

1467
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: but they were trying to see how i'd react if

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Speaker 1: I cared, if I heard. And it's like in those moments,

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Speaker 1: you forget like how exposed and naked you feel, and

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Speaker 1: like I just remember not trying to like well up

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Speaker 1: and cry and show that I felt something. Right. I

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01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: made it through. We won the game, crushed it, right,

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Speaker 1: But what position did you play? I was middle blocker? Okay, yeah,

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01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: I was middle blocker. So I remember that, like it

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01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: was so hard to get through those moments. I left

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01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 1: and I left knowing that that was just how it was,

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01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: Like this is something that can happen when you are

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Speaker 1: the only black person in a setting in the South.

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01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: And I never held that against it. I just felt

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01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,679
Speaker 1: like we're so ignorant at times to our own history.

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01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,719
Speaker 1: But now the beautiful thing is if you're being ignorant,

1482
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 1: now you're choosing to be ignorant. We literally are living

1483
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: in the midst of two pandemics, you know, COVID corona

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01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 1: and racism, two pandemics that disproportionately affect people of color,

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Speaker 1: especially you know, black people, black women as well. So

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01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 1: now it's like, if you're choosing to ignore the realities

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01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,600
Speaker 1: of the world we live in right now, then I

1488
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 1: don't you know, that's that's not the energy we need.

1489
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 1: We're all united in a different way, like this young

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01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: generation always make fun of them, like z gen Z,

1491
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 1: you know, like the TikToker. I saw the funniest tweet

1492
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 1: where they're like, we were worried about y'all when you

1493
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 1: were eating tide pods, But y'all are out here, you know,

1494
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 1: talking at talk and walking that walk. I think we

1495
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 1: have a generation where it's not just activism, like we

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01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: go on social media and like post these things. It's

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01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: now like action. How do we, as you mentioned, carry

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01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: that over as one Like right now, I think a

1499
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: lot of people are shook. They're like, whoa, I've grown

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Speaker 1: up in this lane, but I see this one experience

1501
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: and we all know that is wrong, you know what

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01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: I mean? How do we come together and move forward?

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01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: I believe in gen Z. Yeah, same here. This collective consciousness, though,

1504
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 1: is so powerful because I think, like what you'all are saying,

1505
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 1: educating and learning more. Everyone's realizing in this age of information,

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01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:22,600
Speaker 1: like I have to learn more or I'm being completely ignorant. Yeah,

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01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 1: but I'm also learning more too, which is great, Like

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01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm learning what I can what I shouldn't accept, like

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01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 1: what in the past I shouldn't have accepted from people,

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01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 1: or what I can still you know, do better and

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01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: try to educate people. So it's like collectively everybody is learning,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's just such a transformative time. You

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01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:45,799
Speaker 1: are engaging in your future and your kid's future differently

1514
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 1: than you have been as a girl who's been focused

1515
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: on basketball and med school. Yeah, because people think I

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01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: need to create this what this big organization blah blah.

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01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: You don't need to do any of that, Like people

1518
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: already have it done. Please just go find it and

1519
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: learn about you and amplify those voices. And honestly, I

1520
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: think that's what people are starting to do. I think

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01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: at first it was complacency because everyone was like, what

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01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: can I do? And then like you said, you do nothing,

1523
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: And I know it's not even just complacency. People are

1524
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: worried to mess up, like as black people, I know,

1525
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: like it's we're going through an experience and we're like, hmm,

1526
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 1: y'all are just starting to realize what we've been going through.

1527
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Speaker 1: And then people are trying to speak of and I

1528
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: know it's been probably pressure on you, especially Kate, like

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna say? How do I say it

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Speaker 1: the right way? And so I just tell people like

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Speaker 1: trying is important and it's not and we it's noticed, like, yes,

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Speaker 1: me because we were in Colorado and one day I'm

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Speaker 1: one of those people I refuse to use only if

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Speaker 1: I'm literally going to the Academy Awards or like the

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Speaker 1: Golden Globes, Will I put on a real deodorant, you know,

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Speaker 1: like a real kind of anti perseprint terrible deodorant. That's

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Speaker 1: the only time I'll ever use something like that. Every

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01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: other time I won't wear deodorant and it's not so great.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes you know, I will just wear all my

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Speaker 1: natural deodorant and it's wonderful. It's hard to find a

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Speaker 1: good natural deodorant. Your wife. I went to one day

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Speaker 1: and asked been, I forgot my deodorant. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, babe, do you have any deodorant I can use?

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Speaker 1: And she's like, yeah, this is the best. She gave

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Speaker 1: me a native deodorant. I remember I used it and

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Speaker 1: It's a hard thing to say with natural deodorant because

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Speaker 1: one smell good. But this one actually is a wonderful, wonderful,

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Speaker 1: opposite of you real quick, I've tried the natural geodorance

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Speaker 1: you know, some sort of a strange natural deodorant that

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Speaker 1: let's do it. Okay, one word to describe each other?

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01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 1: Oh oh, I was gonna say, baby, crazy, great? Perfect?

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01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 1: Who's more competitive? Me? Yeah? Okay, yeah? Better grades me?

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01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 1: Because Erica right now is more competitive. I'm you know,

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01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 1: she's who has better shoes? Toney tone? She has more

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01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 1: money than me? That's only just give me a couple

1630
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: of years. Who wins in a game of horse unless

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01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,640
Speaker 1: we're shooting lamps and she's dunking, Then I'm all right, No,

1632
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:17,799
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't do that. That's oh my gosh.

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01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 1: Who's more of a homebody? Netflix and chill, even if

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01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 1: it's by myself? Yeah, me too, love it. Who's fun

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01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: Who's funnier? Erica? She's not funny. She's like got that

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01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: sarcastic humor that almost like hurts your feelings. But she's laughing,

1637
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: so you don't feel threatened. That's like me too, I

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01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 1: love that kind of Yes, who's better karaoke? Probably more?

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01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 1: We're both tone deaf? Yeah, we really are mad who's

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01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:55,440
Speaker 1: more of the who's more of the rule follower? Yeah? Me? Yeah,

1641
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 1: who's a better multitasker? Oh terrible, I'm terrible. I can't

1642
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 1: do it. You wanted one thing at a time, one thing, yes?

1643
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:12,800
Speaker 1: Who takes longer to get ready? Yeah? Probably me. What

1644
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:17,799
Speaker 1: about your first celebrity crush? Oh? I know hers easily.

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01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 1: We just talked about this. Go ahead, it is Chris Brown.

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01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 1: You can't run it now. It's like, but this was

1647
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 1: before a long, long time ago. You know, he's still

1648
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 1: awesome though. Music was musically Yeah, she doesn't know mine.

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01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 1: I was too We're too far apart in age. Who

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01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: was what was yours? Nick Jonas? Oh my god, a

1651
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 1: very good first crush. I've been to like four Jonas

1652
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:55,560
Speaker 1: Brothers concerts. Did you guys have you guys have posters

1653
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 1: when you were kids? Jones Brothers? What was like? What

1654
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 1: was some of yourss like memorable posters? Chris Brown? Little Romeo?

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01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, little Romeo. I still like that's a

1656
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 1: crush right there. I love I met him a year

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01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: or so ago and I was like, oh, you kind

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01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: of tall. He's like six feet tall. You know. For me,

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01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: I got a little am because I'm tall. I have

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01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 1: Blake Griffin was my I have Blake Griffin posters. We

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01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: kind of all love Blake Griffin. And then it's kind

1662
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: of weird now because she's like an analyst and I'm like, yeah,

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01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 1: I didn't have Yeah, yeah, I know, hey Blake, you

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01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 1: didn't have Yeah. I had a poster of Lionel Messy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, no Messy. I think I had

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01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: a Michael Jordan one because Oliver's girlfriend was in love

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Speaker 1: with Michael Jordan, which then I was in love with

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's. She kind of brought she kind of brought

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Speaker 1: the love of Michael Jordan into her hands. Here. I'm

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01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 1: still in love with Michael Jordan's. Yes, same even and

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Speaker 1: even even watching him as an older man on Last Dance,

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01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 1: I was like, oh god, yes, I love them. That.

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01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,599
Speaker 1: Who would survive? Who would most likely survive a month

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01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 1: in the wilderness? Oh? Both would probably would. Yeah, we

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01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 1: both well, actually we either really wouldn't or we Yeah,

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01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 1: there's no who would you lean on for survival? You know?

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01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 1: Or is it would be like a team effort. It

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01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 1: be a team effort because we both have our weaknesses. Yeah,

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01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 1: who's more adventurous. Probably we have our moods. I don't know,

1680
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:45,679
Speaker 1: we're very who waits up more? Probably me, just because

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01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 1: like it's because her job and her lifestyle is a

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01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: bit more adventurous than mine. Yeah. Probably. Is there anyone

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01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 1: that you'd love to meet, you know what I mean,

1684
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: like a celebrity or an athlete or someone who you like, man,

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01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 1: I wish I could meet him or her? Hmmm, say it,

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01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I mean, of course, Barack Obama. I'm trying

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01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: to think for Michelle Obama. That's like an automatical you

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01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 1: go to. Yeah, I'm trying to think. I would say

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01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:21,600
Speaker 1: I did freak out when I saw Viola Davis in

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01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 1: the airport at La X. I probably want to meet

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01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:34,759
Speaker 1: Bad Bunny the musician. He's a musician. So the last

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01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 1: question is a two part question, and the question is

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01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 1: is what is it about the other one that is

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01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 1: something that you wish you could emulate, that you equality

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01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 1: that they have, that you love, that you wish it

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01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: was something that you had as well. And then the

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01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 1: other part of that question is something you'd want to

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01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 1: alleviate from your sibling that you think would be in

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01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 1: the best interest of everything that is good about them. Okay, emulate,

1700
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: I'll start. She I don't know how she's been able

1701
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 1: to like focus at such a high level, like playing basketball,

1702
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 1: but like also go into class and doing the hardest classes.

1703
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 1: For me, it's like I put a ball in a

1704
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 1: basket currently, and I talk about people that putballs and

1705
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:26,599
Speaker 1: baskets right, Like it's so simple and natural. But for her,

1706
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 1: like to even choose medical school focus and not just

1707
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: like I, learning is so subjective and to be able

1708
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 1: to tackle all of those things. I wish I could

1709
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 1: have that like zero in focus and drive, being the

1710
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 1: youngest out of us four to like have three older

1711
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 1: sisters and not feel like threatened, and to not feel

1712
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 1: like she doesn't belong but instead like like I just

1713
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm a professional basketball player and talk about basketball. She's

1714
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:56,719
Speaker 1: like going to be a doctor and like hopefully save lives.

1715
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 1: So she's been driven and motivated. So I would like

1716
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 1: to take some of that focus. Because you heard I

1717
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 1: can't multitask. I would probably say for Chine takeaway taking

1718
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:11,520
Speaker 1: emulate some of her like kind of like universal empathy

1719
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 1: and like just compassion for everybody, Like people always ask

1720
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 1: ask ask for her, and she'll always give people one

1721
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 1: hundred percent back. Like I think at times I can

1722
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 1: find myself, you know, people ask me asking I'm like, hey,

1723
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 1: you know, hold up, I need a minute. Like Cheney,

1724
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 1: it's never that she's always willing to help and just

1725
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:30,679
Speaker 1: just like be there for everybody, regardless of how busy

1726
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 1: she is. She'll maybe be like, hey, I need to

1727
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,680
Speaker 1: get back to you, but she's just always empathetic to

1728
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,719
Speaker 1: everyone's situation. So I think that'd be something I would

1729
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 1: say and alleviate. Yeah, alleviates is like such a nice

1730
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 1: word for this question. Alleviate it, I would say, alleviate

1731
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: like growing up, we started playing basketball the age of ten,

1732
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 1: and I went into high school and then went into

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01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 1: college and then got into the pros, and I'm just

1734
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 1: now like at the age of you know, twenty six,

1735
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 1: twenty seven, now I'm twenty eight, Like top be into

1736
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 1: living right, like choosing to do things on my own

1737
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 1: for myself. So if it's alleviate, I would hope that

1738
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 1: she can also like experience life and not just let

1739
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 1: it happen and then look back and be like WHOA,

1740
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:15,600
Speaker 1: Like I did a lot of great stuff, but like

1741
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:17,600
Speaker 1: did you do it? Were you present? Were you in

1742
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,560
Speaker 1: the moment. So I'm just hoping that she if I

1743
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 1: can alleviate anything. It's like the pressure that she probably

1744
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:26,639
Speaker 1: feels being the youngest and choosing a really difficult path

1745
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: and just to enjoy life because your girls out here,

1746
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 1: like you know, twenty eight got Nigerian African parents like

1747
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 1: what is your husband? Like what are you doing? And

1748
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 1: I was like I'm here, like mom, but I saw

1749
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 1: I was in school when I was like, right, I'm

1750
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 1: like behind the curve on this ish and why aren't

1751
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 1: you married like that? Damn. So like I want her

1752
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 1: to have fun and to be young and to tap

1753
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 1: into life in a way that I wasn't. Really I didn't.

1754
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 1: I chose not to. I can't think of anything that heartfelt.

1755
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 1: But I would probably say alleviate just injuries. You know.

1756
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 1: I hope she's done with injuries. Thank you. Everyone in

1757
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 1: our family has been blessed. Yeah, I have been blessed

1758
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:08,679
Speaker 1: kind of with not experiencing like too many severe injuries.

1759
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,840
Speaker 1: Like yes, there's been like concussions and like I think

1760
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 1: that has been like sick before, but like she's had

1761
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 1: legit achilles injuries, knee injuries that have taken her out

1762
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 1: for like a long time, so you know, that's probably

1763
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 1: something that I'd want to leave it for the rest

1764
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 1: of her professional career. Hopefully appreciate that. Yeah, that was

1765
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 1: so fun. I love every second of this has been great.

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01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 1: Thank you. Sibling Revelry is executive produced by Kate Hudson,

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01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 1: Alira Hudson, and Simsarna. Supervising producer is Alison Presnik. Editor

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Speaker 1: is Josh Wendish. Music by Mark Hudson aka Uncle Michael.