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Speaker 1: definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you

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Speaker 1: the garage orders are open, but I am here to

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Speaker 1: now he running tire insanity continues tire one oh one. Hi.

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Speaker 1: I'm wanting any in the Car Doctor eight five five

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Speaker 1: And I think we can fix any car together. And

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Speaker 1: I've been really been doing this forty three years and

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Speaker 1: I can honestly say on one hand, Um, there's probably

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Speaker 1: And I kind of get that. But there's not a

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Speaker 1: Until you get the tires for the vehicle. Tire insanity, listen,

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Speaker 1: to Bill, a return Car Doctor caller. For so many years,

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Speaker 1: when you turn it on and off? It should click? Now,

427
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: just because it clicks doesn't mean it physically moves. It

428
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: just means it clicks. So you know, if you could

429
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 1: kind of have it in your hand and you're looking

430
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: at it. Click do you see the flapper go? Click?

431
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: Do you see it come back? Um, I can tell

432
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: you if I was going to take an educated guess, Bill,

433
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: it's a bad vent solenoid. Very funny. You should mention

434
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: that because I did price that out. Now that's behind

435
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 1: the gas tank door, right, correct, it's it's it's it's

436
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: you know, attached to the back side of the canister.

437
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: You know how I was taught to do evapp leaks

438
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: and pretty smart instructor way back in the day, and

439
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 1: it still rings true today. When we hook up a

440
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: smoke machine, the first thing we do is we hook

441
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: up a smoke machine, turn it on, We put smoke

442
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: in the system, and we watch for the smoke. We

443
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 1: we go to the smoke that's the vent. We close it.

444
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: We either close it with our thumb or we put

445
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 1: a plug in it, and then we look to see

446
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: as the system sealed. If the system is sealed at

447
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: that moment, we have no leaks. And then we start

448
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: to go through and we look at the you know,

449
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: the gas cap, and we'll take the cap off to

450
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: smoke hit us in the face. And sometimes we have

451
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: to blow smoke down the tube to test it that way.

452
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 1: But you know, they all work the same. All the

453
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 1: evap systems work basically the same. The one thing I'm

454
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: gonna caution you on that I'm seeing a little bit

455
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 1: of lately, and not just on Impalace, just on cars

456
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: in general. Depending upon how a smoke machine tests it,

457
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: sometimes it bypasses the purge solenoid. That purge solenoid should

458
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: not pass anything when it's not powered up. So if

459
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: that Purche solenoid the the end at the engine that

460
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: actually draws fumes in, if that Purche solenoid has any

461
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: sort of a leak in it, that'll cause all sorts

462
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: of evap leak faults as well. So always consider that.

463
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: I will check that run. Are you where they have

464
00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: a cruise going on here with classic cars along Woodward? Yeah?

465
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: The Woodward have cruise yea yeah, so absolutely crazy. Yeah,

466
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, as much as I like cruising,

467
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: that's probably a little more than what I could handle

468
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: because I'm not a crowd kind of a guy. And

469
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: that's why I'm home today. You it's more of a

470
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: parking lot than it is a crew. Yeah, and that's

471
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, are my idea of a cruise we're gonna

472
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: be um a matter of fact, we're gonna be this

473
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: Labor Day weekend September five. Uh, the Gang and I.

474
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: We just closed the deal this morning. We've just able

475
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: to get confirmation. We're gonna be in Mahwah, New Jersey

476
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: at the Sheridan Crossroads dead Man's Curve dead Man's Curve

477
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: USA dot com. I believe is the website. We're gonna

478
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: be over there a thousand hot rods and do the

479
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: radio show live from that, so you can sit back

480
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: in your easy chair on Labor Day, September five weekend

481
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: and you can hear the show from that. We'll get

482
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: some pictures up on Facebook and uh do the whole

483
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: deal like that. Bill always a pleasure, sir. If you

484
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: have any questions, any problems, by all means you know

485
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: how to get ahold of me Ron at Car Doctor

486
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: Show dot com and that we can continue the conversation there.

487
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: Eight zero nine nine zero zero. I'm runing Indian the

488
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: Car Doctor. We are back right after this. Well, do

489
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: kids and night. I've got to feel something right. I'm

490
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: so scared kids, I'll fall off my chair. Hey, welcome back.

491
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: We're on Anie in the Car doctor, I'm gonna do

492
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: the last fifteen minutes of the show standing up. See

493
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: if that changes things. Maybe I can't diagnose as well,

494
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: maybe I'll diagnose better. We'll see. Let's get over and

495
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: talk to Donna and Harrisonburg, Virginia, Mia and an air

496
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: big problem. Donna, welcome to the car doctor. How can

497
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 1: I help? Hi? Thank you very much, you're welcome. What's

498
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: going on? Well, Um, for the last few years, I've

499
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: had this blinking light. I don't like the way this,

500
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: so I'd take it in get it inspected, and it

501
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: happens to pass I mean, And so I asked him

502
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: about it, and he said, well, if it doesn't come

503
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: on when I do the inspection, we're good. Well last

504
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: year it came on and he couldn't pass it. So

505
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: it was going to be a couple thousand dollars and well,

506
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: well what what what? I went back up? What was

507
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: going to be a couple of thousand dollars UM two

508
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: replace all of the like. He like the guy, and

509
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: I really trust him. I think he's a good mechanic

510
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: and he's done a lot of work on my car,

511
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: and he has actually replaced the whole air bag systems

512
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,719
Speaker 1: in a couple of other theodus, and that's what he

513
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 1: was pointing on doing. He's I think he estimated like

514
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: seventeen hundreds. But wait a minute, Wait a minute, waitut,

515
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: do we know what fault codes being set because of

516
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: the light? Um, it's okay if we do, but I

517
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: don't know if I know it. But he knew it, right,

518
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: So he's scanned it, he's plugged in a scan tool,

519
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: and he's diagnosed it. Yes, okay. Now, my my problem

520
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: with all of this is it's very rare when a

521
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: fault code says change everything. So well, that was his

522
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: upper estimate. He didn't know if he'd have to, right. Well,

523
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: but but you know, you know, plugging in a scan

524
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: tool and getting a fault code ten, for example, on

525
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: a NATA is a common failure that tells you it's

526
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: an airbag control module. Getting that fault code doesn't necessarily

527
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: mean that it's the module. It can be a problem

528
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: with power, can be a problem with ground. But there's

529
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: not a lot of connection that leads me two, Well,

530
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: maybe I've got to change everything. That's sort of the

531
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: you know, waving the arms and you know, covering your

532
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: your backside just in case but not really diagnosing the problem.

533
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: You know, I would really be concerned that, well, you know,

534
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: g Don, I scanned it and it's a code tent

535
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: and it's an A B S control module circuit fault.

536
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: If you read any fault code, very few of them

537
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: say here's the code, change this part. It's here's the code,

538
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: test the circuit, and that's really that's really what needs

539
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: to be done. Now. If this is an older car, uh,

540
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: and it is obviously, it's twenty three years old, twenty

541
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: four years old, and it's got rust issues, it's got

542
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: connection issues, it's got wiring harnesses that are old and brittle.

543
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that can happen here. If

544
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: you and I were having a conversation over a couple

545
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: of soda pops and just saying, hey, wrong, what's the

546
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: most common thing that goes bad? Maybe our air bad

547
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: control modules on these cars, hands down on those in

548
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: clock springs. But you know, you'll get codes that indicate

549
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: and go into that direction. But you know, gee, you

550
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: need one of everything. And we're using a shot we're

551
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: using a shotgun to fix the car. We're just throwing

552
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: everything at it. I decided to let him look at it,

553
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: and he didn't charge me hardly anything, because when he

554
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: was done, it still did the same thing. And here's

555
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: what he did. He checked the s RS operation, he

556
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: repaired the air bag computer, he sent it off and

557
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: had it redone. He put in a used sensor, and

558
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: he put in a used air bag. Okay, well, and

559
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: still has the problem, right, he still has the problem.

560
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: So he said, maybe you should try Mansta. What I

561
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: called Mansta, and they didn't seem like they were thrilled.

562
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: So I called another, a local dealer, and so then

563
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: I called dealer in d C. And they said they

564
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: would take a look at it, but they all want

565
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: to charge me. Sounds reasonable to me, and and here's why, Okay,

566
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: because whatever the original problem was, this car now has

567
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: the potential to have as many additional problems as the

568
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: number of used parts that this fellow put in. Right,

569
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, ever you ever you ever go down

570
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: to the hardware store by a light bulb, screw it

571
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: and it doesn't work. Okay, so you've had bad new parts, right,

572
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: you know what news stands for, right, never never ever worked,

573
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: So you know it's it's even it's even worse on

574
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: used parts. Here's a case where we took used air

575
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: bag parts, safety components, life and death Donna in an accident,

576
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: God forbid, and we've got to count on these things

577
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 1: to work. And we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, you know,

578
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: value Donna's life and a little mas Demata, which they're

579
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: great cars, but they're kind of like the size of

580
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: a pregnant roller skate going down the highway. And you

581
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: want to make sure if you have an accident you survive. Um,

582
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: nothing but the best here, kiddo, you know what this is.

583
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: This is where I draw the line. I've never installed

584
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: to use the air bag, and I never will install

585
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: use the air bag, simply because I want to know

586
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: and I want to give the customer the best possible

587
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: chance of survival. I like all my customers. I don't

588
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: work for people I don't like. Well, it was my

589
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: understanding they don't make the parts for the Santa anymore

590
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: so that they have to use these aftermarket things. Is

591
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: that not right? That may be the case. I would

592
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: have to look into that. But if Mazda doesn't make

593
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: the parts anymore than your question to the dealer is

594
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: gonna be, Hey, if I need an air bag. How

595
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: are you gonna get me one if you don't make

596
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: the parts anymore? Do they have a source for it?

597
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: That's a valid that's a valid question. I would bring

598
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: that up before I laid out my hundred dollars for

599
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: a diagnosis, because you know, if it's a hundred dollars,

600
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: you know, if it's a hundred dollars for a diagnosis,

601
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: only to tell you, yep, it needs an air bag,

602
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: can't get you one of those. But we know what

603
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: it is. Um you know. I had a call from

604
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: the shop yet today late in the afternoon, Fella called

605
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: me up and he was asking me a question about something.

606
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: He says, the engine making noise. I think I need

607
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: an engine. Can you diagnose it? Sure, I can diagnose it.

608
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: I don't do engine work anymore, but I'll be glad

609
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: to diagnose it. I was honest with him, right up front.

610
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: I told him exactly what was going on. Uh, you

611
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 1: know what, I don't need the diagnostic feed to go

612
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: into retirement someday because I'm not gonna mislead anybody. So

613
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: ask that question to the dealership, Ask them, Hey, if

614
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: you diagnose this, can you get me parts? What parts

615
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: are available. What do you think the odds are of

616
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: you being able to repair this? But you know understand

617
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: used parts. He's changed the configuration, he's changed the formula.

618
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: It could have been a connection issue, it could have

619
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: been a wiring harness issue. There's a lot of wood

620
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: have could have shood us here, and by all means,

621
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: I would start with a solid diagnosis by a competent

622
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: tech and work your way out from there. Don I

623
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: want to hear how this ends. I'm gonna ask you.

624
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna close this conversation by saying, send me an

625
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: email Ron at Car Doctor show dot com, let me

626
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: know where this stands as things unfold, and I'll do

627
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: my best to stay up on it along with everybody else.

628
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: But uh, I want to see where this goes, and

629
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: I'll do my best to guide you from my seat here.

630
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: Good luck to you. Five five five zero nine zero zero.

631
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: I'll run any in the Car Doctor. We're back to

632
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: close it out right after this. Welcome back, run any

633
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: of the car Doctor. Let's real quick, get over and

634
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: talk to Paul Long Island, New York. While you're on

635
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: with the Car Doctor. We got about three and a

636
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: half minutes. Baby, what's going on Okay, run a two

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Speaker 1: thousand and one S ten Chevy pick up a b

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Speaker 1: S code CEO to the only I checked so far

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Speaker 1: sord on Google is the ground wire from the module

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Speaker 1: is up on the radiator support. Yeah, rusted up, and

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Speaker 1: I cut that wirere back until I found a good

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00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: piece of wire in there and just remouth that they

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Speaker 1: ground up on the firewall and that been and that

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00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: made no difference. Um, there is a procedure you can

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Speaker 1: go through where they want you to test UH the

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Speaker 1: e b C M power and grounds and dealing with

647
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Speaker 1: a head lamp, and UM, they want you to own

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Speaker 1: a couple of things, the BMPV, the UH pump modulator,

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Speaker 1: valve motor, and UM. It's very common for these to

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Speaker 1: be a bed EBCM, the electronic break control module. That's

651
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: that's not out of the realm. If you shoot me

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Speaker 1: your email, I'm sorry if you shoot me an email

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Speaker 1: Paul Ronic Car Doctor Show dot com. Because it's kind

654
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Speaker 1: of involved, I'll try to get to it. Um, I'll

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Speaker 1: get to it tonight because I'm gonna be tied up

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00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: all week and I'll shoot you back a test procedure. Um,

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00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: it's a little involved. You gotta be able to use

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Speaker 1: a d v O M. You may need a scan

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Speaker 1: tool and such, but don't rule out that this has

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Speaker 1: a bad electronic break control module. I've seen this as

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00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: a very common fall, so uh, you know, be mindful

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Speaker 1: of that and um, you know that'll probably do it

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Speaker 1: for you. All right. Sorry, You're very welcome. You take

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Speaker 1: good care. Look forward to hearing from you. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not an uncommon fault that uh the e B C

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Speaker 1: m's electronic break control modules on that vintage those vehicles

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Speaker 1: uh did fail. So I'm just something uh a little

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Speaker 1: tougher to diagnosed in my last two minutes here. But

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Speaker 1: what I can do in the last two minutes is

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Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about Labor Day

671
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Speaker 1: weekend because I'm kind of looking forward to this Labor

672
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Speaker 1: Day weekend, Saturday, September five, the Car Doctor is going

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Speaker 1: to be at the Sheridan Crossroads in Mahwah, New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Here today gone Tomawa, as I always say. And the

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Speaker 1: radio show we're gonna be doing the National Show Saturday

676
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: like we always do, two to four pm Eastern time.

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Speaker 1: There's a thousand cars, there's four funny cars, there's ten

678
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Speaker 1: thousand hot rods. I'm sorry, ten thousand horsepower in those

679
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: four hot rods, in those four funny cars that will

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Speaker 1: be there. Butch Patrick will be there. Remember Eddie Munster. Uh,

681
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Speaker 1: he'll be hanging around and um, all sorts of things

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Speaker 1: going on. We're gonna be doing the show. We will

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Speaker 1: be in front of the hotel of the Sheridan Crossroads.

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Speaker 1: They showed us our spot this morning. I'm planning on

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Speaker 1: bringing the hot rod. So if you want to see

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Speaker 1: the fifty five, that'll be with me. Big Tony will

687
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: be with me, Tom Ray will be with me. Fast

688
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: Harry will be coming out in the sunlight. He will

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Speaker 1: be with me. So it's an event worth coming out.

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Speaker 1: That September, the fifth Labor Day weekend coming up, I'm

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Speaker 1: Ronan and the car Doctor watching the hands of the

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Speaker 1: Great Vague. Take bye till the next time. Mechanics aren't

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Speaker 1: expensive their places see U