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Speaker 1: Oh a good time, Steve Taster, Banks do Banks do Banks?

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Speaker 1: Dot time? WELLO, They're welcome to the show. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live, Well, come to you, uh, every weekday

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Speaker 1: noon to three pm from Ulcher Park, New York, from

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Speaker 1: or our Rochester affiliate. Either way, we're happier you are

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Speaker 1: with us today, happier in the audience. John Murphy here

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Speaker 1: in our one Buffalo studio right next door to the

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Speaker 1: stadium with Steve Tasker, longtime Bill Special teamer and a

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Speaker 1: longtime Pro Bowl performer and a longtime broadcaster for CBS

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Speaker 1: Sports on the NFL on CBS. And he's been with

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Speaker 1: us for almost a year. So we're happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: I gotta confess right off the right off the hop here, Steve,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm distressed today, a little bit, just a little,

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Speaker 1: not enough to it's not serious, but look, it won't

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Speaker 1: take much to set me off today. That's I guess

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Speaker 1: that's a warning for you. I know it won't take

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Speaker 1: much to get me going today. You've already winn a

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Speaker 1: couple of occasions in the other room, and let me

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Speaker 1: just let me just venture a query as to why.

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Speaker 1: And it could be what the rule change, and it

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Speaker 1: has a lot to do with it. Yes, absolutely, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about that too. The NFL owners yesterday thirty

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Speaker 1: So now that past interference calls, defense and offense can

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Speaker 1: be challenged using replay, it's the same as the other

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Speaker 1: challenge format. Um, the first portion of each half is

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Speaker 1: major expansion came and the problem, the thing that gets

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Speaker 1: me going is the non calls, like the Nickel Rob

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about this in depth. We're gonna talk with

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Speaker 1: thirty two discuss we have that to talk about today.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot to talk about. The Bills and

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Speaker 1: Sabers owners Terry and Kim Pagoula met with the media

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Speaker 1: late yesterday last night. It was buffalo time in Phoenix,

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Speaker 1: the side of the NFL meetings, which broke up last

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Speaker 1: night like a half a day early, and they didn't

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Speaker 1: on with the Sabers because everybody, you know, because of

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Speaker 1: the coaching situation and the fact that the team's underperformed.

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Speaker 1: They had a ten game winning stream and they thought

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Speaker 1: line to get in and now they're unfortunately much in

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Speaker 1: I mean right, you're watched last night. You must be going.

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Speaker 1: it's Jason Bottrell and the ownership and Kim and Terry saying,

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Speaker 1: New air Field has been around for a long time,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what what the what the market study say.

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering in terms of the expectation from the league.

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Speaker 1: one of the smaller markets and anyway we can increase

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Speaker 1: We do that a lot. Yeah, I know your study,

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Speaker 1: lot of these new stadiums work. I know you're still

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Speaker 1: So so your response is that you would favor building

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Speaker 1: ones that lose their jobs. That has always been the

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Speaker 1: case in professional football. That doesn't change. There's an old Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they still will if if they don't perform. There's an

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Speaker 1: old saying that says something like war is important to

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Speaker 1: be left to the generals, and I think that applies

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Speaker 1: here these decisions about rules. Look, the Competition Committee has

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Speaker 1: coaches on its membership, Mike Tomlin and Mike and Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: The Competition Committee is composed of a couple of coaches,

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Speaker 1: a couple of owners, a couple of club executives. You know,

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Speaker 1: two are supposed to meet and discuss this. They sort

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Speaker 1: of short circuited the competition committee with this coach is

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Speaker 1: flexing their muscle. And look, I get the art. I

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Speaker 1: want to hear the arguments too. Well, let's get to

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Speaker 1: the Twitter poll. The vote was thirty one to one.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals reportedly the team that voted against it. Everybody

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Speaker 1: else voted for it. And it's a one year It's

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Speaker 1: a one year change which is destined to be a

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Speaker 1: permanent change Twitter poll. The NFL will allow pass interference,

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Speaker 1: including non calls, to be reviewed on replay. Do you

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Speaker 1: like the change? You know the old scene we have

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Speaker 1: the simplest Twitter polls are the best. Yes, I think

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Speaker 1: this could be one of them. Do you like to

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Speaker 1: change to review pass interference? Give us a call and

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Speaker 1: discuss eight oh three oh five fifty toll free one

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Or you

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Speaker 1: can do it on Twitter. You can vote in the

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll or send us a tweet and look how

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Speaker 1: close it is. It's closer than I thought it would be.

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Speaker 1: Fifty six percent respondents on Twitter. We've got about five

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Speaker 1: hundred respondents already. Fifty six percent say yes, you like

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Speaker 1: to call the change. Forty four percent say no, you

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Speaker 1: do not. Let's hear from you. Give us a call.

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Speaker 1: Eight oh three five fifty toll free one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. I do not to

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Speaker 1: be up front here. I do not like to change.

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Speaker 1: I don't like expansion replay. I don't like replay. I

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Speaker 1: think it creates as many problems as it solves. I

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Speaker 1: think if you're looking for expansion of replay to solve

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Speaker 1: issues of bad calls, you're looking in the wrong place. Um,

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Speaker 1: there's replay. Officials are gonna make a mistake, just like

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Speaker 1: on field officials too. Are you in favor? Which way

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Speaker 1: would you vote in the list? I think the way

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Speaker 1: they did it, I'm okay. I'm okay with it. For

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Speaker 1: a year, we'll see. I do know this. If they

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Speaker 1: don't like it, they'll take it off the books. People

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Speaker 1: on Twitter also chiming in for the same thing. I

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Speaker 1: think I'm ready to live with it. I want to

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Speaker 1: give it a try, but I'm I'm like you, I'm

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Speaker 1: a I'm a little leery of how big a step

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Speaker 1: this is. That's that's where my hesitation comes in. I

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Speaker 1: think it's the right direction to go. No, I says me.

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Speaker 1: This is my opinion. Here we go now, I'll go

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Speaker 1: to quit tweecheet Christopher Victory. It seems that offenses are

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Speaker 1: using pass interference as a way of gaining large yard

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Speaker 1: It's just part of their playbook. I hate that as

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Speaker 1: soon as the play is over, the wide receiver is

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Speaker 1: already looking at the rest for the call every time.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget, by the way, that the instigator of this

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Speaker 1: is an offensive minded coach on Peyton, always looking to

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Speaker 1: improve the offense, just saying that's right, and the league

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Speaker 1: is all about that too. We've seen it. That defense

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Speaker 1: has been crying about that for years. And it goes

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Speaker 1: back to everything from pass interference, not being able to

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Speaker 1: touch a receiver down the football field, roughing the passer.

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Speaker 1: Everything is bent towards expanding the ability of the offense

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Speaker 1: to have its way over the defense. And that's that

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Speaker 1: continues with this, no question about it. Now. My question

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Speaker 1: is this. Say you're Sean Payton with the Saints. You

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Speaker 1: throw a challenge flag and you want pass interference, and

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Speaker 1: you go down there say yeah, not only was it

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Speaker 1: offensive defensive pass interference, it was also offensive pass interference.

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Speaker 1: Now the play goes over and they replay the down.

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Speaker 1: That's still a win for the offense because instead of

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Speaker 1: an incomplete pass and having to be in fourth down,

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Speaker 1: it's now still third down. Even though they didn't get it,

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Speaker 1: it's still slanting towards the offense. Am I right? I

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Speaker 1: think that's what it would work. Yep? Is it possible?

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Speaker 1: And it turns around and says, no, actually that was

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Speaker 1: offensive pass interference. And now that you know what I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you're wrong. You lose the channel, the challenge and everything.

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Speaker 1: Colin Alexander tweets this in on the tweet sheet. Do

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Speaker 1: you like to change to replay review for pass interference?

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Speaker 1: Colin Alexander says, hate this idea. It will slow the

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Speaker 1: game down. I'm sure you can find pass interference on

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Speaker 1: nearly every play. If you look hard enough, this is

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Speaker 1: going to be a disaster. I can't believe thirty one

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Speaker 1: owners voted in favor of this. Get ready for game

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Speaker 1: winning touchdowns to be routinely called back for BSPI calls.

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Speaker 1: Colin maybe overstating it a little bit, gonna say I

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Speaker 1: don't like the idea. Um, I don't. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's pass interference on nearly every play. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it'll be a disaster. Uh, And I don't know there

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Speaker 1: probably will be touched. I look, pass interference calls are

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Speaker 1: huge on most scoring trimes. You're opening up a judgment

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Speaker 1: call to the fans, to the fans, to the fans.

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Speaker 1: You think the catch rule was tough to nail down,

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Speaker 1: How tough do you think it's gonna be for pass

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Speaker 1: interference to be nailed down? What's gonna be pass interference?

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Speaker 1: We went through this for what was a decade with

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Speaker 1: the catch rule. Now we're gonna go and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: see PI. It's gonna be the PI rule. What's pass interference?

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Speaker 1: What is not pass interference? And now and it's it's

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Speaker 1: always gonna be judgment. There's never gonna be like the

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Speaker 1: catch rule. You had some you had some tangible stuff

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Speaker 1: two feet down. It did. That's the whole point. The ground, yes,

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Speaker 1: right first of it. And it was different in the

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Speaker 1: end zone than it was on the sideline. It's different

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Speaker 1: on the sideline. It wasn't the field of place. It

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Speaker 1: was crazy. And you you don't think this is gonna

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Speaker 1: go down that it is gonna go down that same

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Speaker 1: road with past interference down the sideline. There's always gonna

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Speaker 1: be judgment, whether it's a replay officials judgment in New

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Speaker 1: York hundreds of miles away, or an official on the field. Look,

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Speaker 1: they blew it in New Orleans last year, they blew it.

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Speaker 1: The flag should have been thrown, it wasn't. Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: lost the game mostly because of that. I get it.

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Speaker 1: It hurts, but you don't fundamentally change the game, which

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Speaker 1: they have just done, especially with non calls. Non calls. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: holding calls are next eve right year two. Absolutely holding

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Speaker 1: callsig calls. That the ten yard penalties big call at home.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. A lot of people on social

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Speaker 1: media and around the first thing you say is, wow,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna take forever to play the games. Well, they

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Speaker 1: don't it's not. It's not gonna change anything. They still

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Speaker 1: get the same number of challenges. It's just like a

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Speaker 1: it's just one more thing they can challenge. So you'll

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Speaker 1: you'll you know that nobody's gonna go into the locker

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Speaker 1: room probably now with a challenge in their pocket. It

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Speaker 1: rarely happens now anyway, But most coaches are gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: and I'll tell you this, you're not gonna challenge anything

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Speaker 1: in the first half. If you got this challenge, you're

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Speaker 1: going to throw that thing when you need it and

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Speaker 1: you really need it. If they're smart, well, most past

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Speaker 1: interference calls are big calls, right, big plays. That's right.

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Speaker 1: I saw an interesting stat somewhere overnight, and I've read

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Speaker 1: a lot about this overnight. In this morning, most coaches

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Speaker 1: in the NFL are under five hundred on their replay

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Speaker 1: challenge calls. You know what I mean, I get it,

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Speaker 1: I know. So what makes they're not going to be

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Speaker 1: much better on this? I wouldn't think either a replay

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Speaker 1: challenge on this, Why would they be any better? We

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Speaker 1: said it yesterday, that call in the Saints game that

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Speaker 1: everybody's all up in arms about that that led to

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Speaker 1: this rule change. Once in a lifetime, right, bad calls

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Speaker 1: once in a lifetime. And let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: we got to get the break. But as a former player,

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Speaker 1: you who played in both the replay era and the

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Speaker 1: pre replay era, was the officiating that much worse before

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Speaker 1: replay came in? No, it was all probably the exact same.

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Speaker 1: The difference was the expectations now are through the roof.

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Speaker 1: Now they expect them to be perfect. How can you know? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the expectations are completely different now than they were before

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Speaker 1: replay because I believe because of television and HDTV and

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Speaker 1: super slow motion and technology and frame by frame review

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Speaker 1: of the video, which did not exist thirty years ago.

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Speaker 1: Thirty years ago, you had to let it go because

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Speaker 1: you got you gotta go, You gotta play the next play.

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Speaker 1: You can't worry about it. Now now they don't let

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Speaker 1: it go. It's like, oh, we should have fixed it.

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Speaker 1: There's got to be a way to get it right.

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Speaker 1: There's that that did the whole It's just it was

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Speaker 1: different because you had no choice and you knew it,

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Speaker 1: so you just kind of moved on. I hate to

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Speaker 1: see this expansion of replay, especially when it comes to

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Speaker 1: non calls. Now you can challenge something because you thought

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Speaker 1: there should have been a penalty. I think it's a problem.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Give us a call. You can

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Speaker 1: vote on our Twitter poll. You can weigh in on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet via Twitter. You get send us in

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Speaker 1: your thoughts, or you can call us up with your

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Speaker 1: phone lines open eight oh three five fifty or toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Talk

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Speaker 1: about that, talk about stadium issues, the Pergola's talk about

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00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: it yesterday at the owners meetings. A lot to talk

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Speaker 1: about today, and I'm less irritated now than it was

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Speaker 1: when the show began a half hour ago. Just talking

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Speaker 1: about him with you. I'm here for Ventre's kind of

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00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: hatching it out. I feel better today. Right now. The

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Speaker 1: whole world is not against you, Murph, I promise. Thirty

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Speaker 1: minutes ago, I thought that was the case. We're back

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Speaker 1: after a break One Bill's Live from One Bill's Driving.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy with Steve Tasker. You get something to eat

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Speaker 1: during the break there, Yeah, I started, I gotta yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got something something something. Steve's ready to go. I'm

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Speaker 1: ready to go. I hope you're ready to go, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: this is for being you know what is it late March.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot going on these rules because everybody's always

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Speaker 1: so passionate about the rules, because they try and anticipate

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Speaker 1: what it's gonna look like and whether they're gonna like

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Speaker 1: it or not. And ultimately the league kind of survives

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Speaker 1: all the bad, bad press they get from this rule change.

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Speaker 1: With that rule change, I remember back in the seventies,

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Speaker 1: everybody was up in arms, at least back then with

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Speaker 1: no social media or whatever, that they were not going

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Speaker 1: to let the dbs touch the receivers after you get

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Speaker 1: one chuck within five yards and then you gotta can't

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Speaker 1: touch them, gonna ruin the game. Well, game's pretty good,

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Speaker 1: actually it's gotten better because of that. But this is

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Speaker 1: no different. I'm kind of a I'm kind of a like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about this one. I'm this is I

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Speaker 1: think I'm typical. Tiffany Daniels tweets in at us and

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Speaker 1: this is kind of the way I feel about it.

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Speaker 1: In theory, it's a good rule change, How will the

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Speaker 1: officials actually apply the rule to the game. You have,

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Speaker 1: you have the potential to call offensive pass interference and

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Speaker 1: defensive pass interference on most player. And I have a

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Speaker 1: feeling it's gonna be a call that will evolve as

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Speaker 1: the season progresses, much like roughing the passer penalties? Did

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't look forward to the growing process.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, you know, because you know why, because that's

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Speaker 1: every time they get it. It's like all those are

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Speaker 1: wrong calls. They're all wrong if unless it's the way

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Speaker 1: you want. If every time they go out there, and

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Speaker 1: if they can literally call it on every pass play, well,

641
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Speaker 1: then it's gonna be up to the coach to decide

642
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: when he wants to throw the penalty flag. He'll say

643
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: that's the one I want right there and say, yeah, okay,

644
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: that's the one you got. Yeah, you're right. It was

645
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: pass interfers, just like it always is, you know what

646
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean? So we don't want that. So what's this

647
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: gonna look like? Am I gonna be happy with it?

648
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: Am I gonna look at this? Get these games? Say okay,

649
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: all right, I see that. Yeah, okay, that to me,

650
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: I can live with that. That's what we're all trying

651
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: to get to. Right where you see a play the

652
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: coach doesn't challenge it, or he does challenge it, they

653
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Speaker 1: get it right, do it quickly, and it's in consequential,

654
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: or it is consequential, or it's egregious enough to say, yeah,

655
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: you know what, they deserve that call and we move on.

656
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're ever going to get to that.

657
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: That seems like a pipe dream to me, because I

658
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: know how this stuff goes. You've seen it too, Like

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00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: I keep going back to the catch rule, the catch rules.

660
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: I mean, oh my gosh, we had to we have

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00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: all these discussions and TV shows and debates and opinions

662
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: and criticism, and another bad call, and then this one

663
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: was a call just like the other one, but it

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Speaker 1: was it was granted, you know what I mean, inconsistency

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Speaker 1: and the standard change. The consistency goes out the window

666
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Speaker 1: for a long stretch, appear until they figure it out.

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00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to live like that, man, I can't

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Speaker 1: do it. What do you think about the change in

669
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: the replay? Do you like the fact that pass interference

670
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: is now review challengeable and not even non calls you

671
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: can challenge as a coach or from the replay booth?

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00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: Give us a call. Phone lines open eight oh three

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Speaker 1: five fifty and toll free one eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five. The Commissioner, Roger Goodell was in favor, and

675
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: he talked about it last night after the rule change

676
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: was announced. Roger Goodell on the change in the past

677
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: interference and the use of replay, I personally believe it

678
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: was the fact that every club wanted to get in

679
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: the league, wanted to get these plays right. I mean,

680
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Speaker 1: replay is to get it right, and ultimately people compromise,

681
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Speaker 1: I think on long held views because they want to

682
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: get the system right. They want to get to play right.

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00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: Efficiating is never going to be perfect. We can use

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Speaker 1: the technology to try to improve efficiating. We do that

685
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: every year. It evolves whether it's our techniques that we

686
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Speaker 1: how we train and how we work with our officials

687
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: on the field, but it's replay has been an important

688
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: tool for us, and you know it wasn't able to

689
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Speaker 1: correct something that we wanted to have corrected in the past.

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Speaker 1: I think that to me it was a driving force. Ultimately,

691
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think our clubs,

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00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: including all our code his owners and everyone else, realize

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Speaker 1: that our job is to get these right and we

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Speaker 1: should use every available means to get them right, and

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00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: replay is a great means to be able to do that.

696
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Speaker 1: Will this solve every problem, will get us the perfect

697
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: It was the old thing, right, don't let perfect get

698
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Speaker 1: in the way of better. And this is a very

699
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: natural evolution and obviously a very positive thing. I think

700
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Speaker 1: you will see replay continue to evolve, but I would

701
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Speaker 1: tell you that I think one of the foundations of

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Speaker 1: it was the challenge system. The club's really felt that

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Speaker 1: that was important to continue, so I could see it

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Speaker 1: expanding to other plays in the future, but within the

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Speaker 1: challenge system. There you go, he just said. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, I'm a fan of the commissioner. I know

707
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 1: that's unpopular in some quarters. I hear what he's saying

708
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: and appreciate what he's saying when he talks about don't

709
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: let perfect get in the way of better. But I'm

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Speaker 1: not convinced that the game is better efficient now than

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Speaker 1: it was in the pre replay era. We talked to

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Speaker 1: Steve about it before the break. Are you know, is

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Speaker 1: it better officiated? Are there fewer mistakes with the use

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Speaker 1: of replay than there were back in the eighties. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is. Here's the thing though. I

716
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: he's right, you're not gonna get perfect, but don't let

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Speaker 1: perfect get in the way of better. Um, they do,

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00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: They've got fewer egregious calls that have to stand. Now,

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Speaker 1: how do you know this? Can you point to any

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Speaker 1: stats on that? Yeah? I mean no, I'm strictly perception,

721
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: no question about. I don't have any stats, and none

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Speaker 1: of us do. But I do think that it takes

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Speaker 1: away the frustration on a lot of plays where fans

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Speaker 1: were saying, you know, and they said, no, this is

725
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: and they review it. And I also think the challenge system,

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00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: the way it stands now, gives the coaching staffs and

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Speaker 1: the teams a chance to pick, at least once or

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Speaker 1: twice a game a play that they think is important

729
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: enough to get right that they can throw the channel

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Speaker 1: to say, listen, I don't care what all the other

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Speaker 1: mistakes are. This one I think we need to make

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00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: to get right. And that gives them that freedom to

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Speaker 1: do it. And I think that's that fundamentally is a

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00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: good thing. They had the freedom to do it. But

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Speaker 1: as I pointed out, I don't have it in front

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Speaker 1: of me. But they're just half the time to get it.

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Speaker 1: Half the time the coaches it right, You're right. I

738
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Speaker 1: guess where we're going with this. Let's take a phone

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Speaker 1: call on this topic. Carmine in ken Moore. Hello, Carmine,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, Yeah guys, how are you doing today? Goody?

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Speaker 1: All right, Steve, I think you stole my thunder a

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Speaker 1: little bit, um, John. I want just for us start

743
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Speaker 1: off to say that I think I agree with you.

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00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: You know before I didn't, but I think now they

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00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: should do away with all the replay. I'm just not

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Speaker 1: a fan of it now because it seems like every

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00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: year they're changing the you know, these these rules on

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Speaker 1: the fly, and it's almost like a backyard game. You're

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00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: just changing the rules on. To me, it's cheaper than

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Speaker 1: the NFL M And I don't know if I was

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Speaker 1: more frustrated. I was probably less frustrated when a rough

752
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: blew a call prior to instant you know, the replays. Yeah,

753
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: as I am. Now, when we think there's you know,

754
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: they review a play, you think they're going to overturn

755
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: the colony? Don't that to me? Is this more frustrating?

756
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: I agree? Yeah, I mean there's no question. It doesn't

757
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: do away with all the problems. It just creates different ones.

758
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: I think they're trying to get away with where the

759
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: problems are not of the kind. And that's why this

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00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: DPI OPI defensive pass interference offensive pass interference are the

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00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: first plays that they're allowing, because the statistics and the

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00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: studies show those are the ones that make a difference

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Speaker 1: at the end of a game when a team has

764
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: a chance to win and it gets taken away from them.

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Speaker 1: It's the offensive and defensive pass interference calls that do that.

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Speaker 1: So that's why they put that as first thing on

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00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: the list where these guys can actually go in and say, hey,

768
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: you should have called this and didn't. I want you

769
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: to look at it again because this is the play

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00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: where most of the time, if they do get call it,

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00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: it has an effect on the outcome of the game.

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Speaker 1: And that's the one thing the league, or well not

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00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: the one thing, that's the next thing that the league

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00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: wants to address in getting the games right in the

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00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: officiating right. Here's to back up what Steve just said,

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00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: some of the stats on that, and we talk about

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00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: it yesterday with John Crick from Toronto. Over the last

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Speaker 1: three years, defensive pass interference has cost teams an average

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00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: of fifteen yards per call. Those files represent nine percent

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00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: of all penalties, not a whole lot, but because of

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00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: the yardage involved, defensive pass interference calls represent seventy percent

782
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: of the penalties with the largest impact on the league's

783
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: internal vision of a win probability. You know how they

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00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: do that. What's your win probability at this moment, this moment,

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00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: this moment, seventy of past interference calls, defensive pass interference

786
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: calls affect your win probability. They're huge calls, they're meaningful calls.

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00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: You gotta get them right. I just don't think replay

788
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: will guarantee, or might not even improve that much the

789
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: ability to get them right. And again, I'm going back

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00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: to what I see is the initial problem, and stuff

791
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: will reveal itself once it starts being called. But I

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00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: do think the uncatchable ball stuff is going to be

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00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: a problem. And it's gonna be a problem when your team,

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00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: whoever they are, gets called for or doesn't get called

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00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: for a past interference and you think it's past interference,

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00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: and the guy in New York at the replay center

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00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: NFL Replay Center in New York looks at it and says,

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00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: um it's not catchable. Here's the thing. Three you've got.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have people in the stands for you know,

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl playoff game, home game, home opener, whatever you want,

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00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: They're all gonna see the same video. And you're gonna

802
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: have two sets of two fan bases whose judgment is

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00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: clouded because they've got skin in the game. Their teams

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00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: in this game they want to get They wanted to

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00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: go their way, and the other team wants to go

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00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: their way. So the judgment in this case for everybody

807
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: in the stadium and everybody who's actually got they're clouded.

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00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: They can't be trusted, just as the people who actually

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00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: have skin on the game, right money on the game

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00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: and there are, they cannot be trust that. You're the

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Speaker 1: people in the stadium, they're gonna see it their way.

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Speaker 1: The people from the away team who are at home

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Speaker 1: watching on the TV, they you know, they're gonna see

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Speaker 1: it their way. And forevermore they're all gonna be arguing

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00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: over it. And you gotta have somebody come in. You know,

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00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: these guys in New York are gonna be sitting there

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00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: without and they're gonna make a ruling one way or

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Speaker 1: the other. So for that one half the fans are

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00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: gonna hate it and half the fans are gonna love it,

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Speaker 1: and it's never gonna be one hundred percent. It creates

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00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: as many problems as it solves. I've said that for

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Speaker 1: years about replay a breakcare, we're coming back, talk more

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Speaker 1: about this or whatever you'd like, replay stadium, whatever, it's

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Speaker 1: all on the table. Today John Murphy received Tasker One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back One Bill's Live. I'm John Murphy was steep.

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Speaker 1: Tasker got kind of a lively discussion going on. W

828
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Speaker 1: to hear from you too about the change in the

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Speaker 1: NFL's replay review. Now pass interference offense and defensive pass

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Speaker 1: interference are reviewable. Coaches challenge until the final two minutes

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Speaker 1: of each half, when it is the league's decision. We're

832
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: reading tweets on it, we're taking phone calls on it.

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Speaker 1: There's one tweet that I just saw here that I

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Speaker 1: wanted to get to, but we'll get to them. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to them. Donald Mensing tweeted, and CFL has been

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Speaker 1: doing it for years and they have not imploded by

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Speaker 1: the way. I'm not talking about implosion. Somebody else said, grinning, Barrett, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the league's gonna be the lead's gonna survive this. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a step down the road where you don't

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Speaker 1: want to go. But you've watched enough CFL with your

841
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: son playing in Hamilton's. They haven't imploded. But you're not

842
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: a fan, you said, I'm not because I said this yesterday.

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00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: You get these plays that had these huge plays that

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Speaker 1: happened in automatic. And here's the thing too, and I

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Speaker 1: don't really know if this has been talked about. One

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Speaker 1: of the things that happens in the CFL is there's

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00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: a long pass play and it goes one way for

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Speaker 1: one team or the other, and the one team will

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Speaker 1: challenge it and say, listen, away from the football over here,

850
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: away from the football on the other side of the field. Now,

851
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: one thing they do have to do is they have

852
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: to say, specifically, it's number twenty seven interfered with our

853
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: number eighty seven. Now it could have been away from

854
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: the ball, away from the on the other side of

855
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: the field, and they'll say he interfered with our guy.

856
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: And if they go back and if they've gotten a

857
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: camera angle of that, that's a penalty, the big play

858
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: comes off the board and they go back and do

859
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: it again, So you can have them call penalties away

860
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: from the ball. I don't know that the NFL has

861
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: put that. I haven't heard that they've put that into effect,

862
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: that the penalty that they're talking about has to be

863
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: on the guy that was thrown the ball to, you

864
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean. In fact, we got a tweet

865
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: on this very question. Kramer tweets this in when challenging

866
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: pass interference call, do you have to select the receiver

867
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: that was interfered with or do they check for pass

868
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: interference on all the receivers on the field. Yeah, that's

869
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: a question. I don't know. I don't tell you. You

870
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: have to call it, you say, listen. And even it

871
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be on the where the ball was

872
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: thrown too, because on offense, they'll make the case that, listen,

873
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: we would have thrown the ball to this other guy.

874
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 1: He was our number one option, but he was being held,

875
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: so we threw the ball down this way and it

876
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: was incomplete. But this is the guy we wanted to

877
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: throw it too. So they'll ask say, hey, check that

878
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: we didn't throw the ball there. But here's where we

879
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: were throwing it, but you know, we wanted to throw

880
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: it to this guy and he was interfered with. That's

881
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: where we think that pass interference was. I don't know

882
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: that the NFL has put that into place or what

883
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: the how they're going to handle that, because obviously you

884
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: could just pick a player say it was offensive holding

885
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. Well, you can't do that because

886
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: that's not reviewable. But you have to say who you

887
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: think the play the penalty was on, or do they

888
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: check all five receivers? You know, I mean, that's the question.

889
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: Is it going to be just where the ball was

890
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: thrown or is it Can it be on the guy

891
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: over here that caused you to throw the ball to

892
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: the other side of the field. Yeah, I'm sure they'll

893
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: sort that out. I would think they'll sort that. Um

894
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: they listen, they've had this conversation right now, because we're

895
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: I've been in those meetings. They're they're all over it.

896
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: But I don't know. We haven't heard how it works.

897
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: They haven't told us. Bob on the line in Rochester, Hello, Bob,

898
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: go ahead, Yeah, Johan and Steve, I got a question

899
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: what happens at the end of the game, and teams

900
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: down by a touchdown, they throw the hail Mary pass

901
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: and there's all kinds of interference in the end zone. Now,

902
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: league officials almost they would have to call the play

903
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: pass interference. I'm thinking, well, they got it that it's

904
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: automatically reviewed in the last minute of the game, right,

905
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: so it would come down and they would and my

906
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: and here's where the problem comes in. What if it's offsetting.

907
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: You know, both teams are down there pushing and shoving

908
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: and pulling and grabbing and doing all that stuff. Well,

909
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: then what that's a win for the offense. To me,

910
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: they got to the play goes over, right, So there's

911
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: no challenge coaches challenge involve there. Right, we are all

912
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: agreeing on that, right Bob. That would be the replay

913
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: booth saying, hey, we want to take another look at this,

914
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: because it's the final two minutes of a game. It's

915
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: going to be a mess with the help hail Mary

916
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: pass here. You're right, you're it's a it's a that's

917
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: a can of worms. And it's a good question too,

918
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: because that will have to go upstairs and they'll have

919
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: to buzz down if they see it. It's gonna happen yeah, yeah,

920
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: and maybe do they stop interfering on hail Mary's I mean,

921
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: is that the coach the coaching point. Here's another good

922
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: here's another part to this, and this is Phyllis's face

923
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: that this is the crux of the entire issue from

924
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: Robert Chase heat tweets in real quick yeah he do

925
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: you like it around? Here's yes. I guess anything that

926
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: doesn't make the NFL look embarrassing after a huge game

927
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: is good. And that's exactly what happened in the NSC

928
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: championship game. The whole league was embarrassed. You they couldn't

929
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: dodge it. It was an embarrassment. That missed call made everything,

930
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: made the whole made everybody look bad. Can't dispute that.

931
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: I cannot dispute that it was a horrible misscall. It

932
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: was a bad mistake. Uh, the officials involved should be reprimanded,

933
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: dealt with. I'm not calling for anybody to be fired,

934
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: but they should be dealt with. However, my contention, you

935
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: don't change rules because of one bad miscall, and you've

936
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: said that I think as well. You know it's a

937
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: horrible miscall. It shouldn't have an impact on the way

938
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: the entire game has played for and forever and ever,

939
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: and that's what happened yesterday. And they included, well, they

940
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: included that situation non calls. Sean Payton, I think was

941
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: the driving force. He had some thoughts on this. She

942
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: might expect. This is the Sean Payton rule, right right,

943
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: This is Sean Paytons roy might as well just call

944
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: it that. We're gonna hear from him. We come back

945
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: in the next hour plus, coming up at one thirty

946
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: more on this. We will talk with Dean Blandino at

947
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: one thirty, former NFL Director of Officiating, and more on

948
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: the stadium, what the Bagoulas had to say about a

949
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: stadium for the Bills. All of that as the show

950
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: rolls along, Come on back One Bill's I've presented by

951
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: KLATA Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio,

952
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network. Sports Dad comes from One Bill's Drive.

953
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 1: The news comes from Arizona. The side of the NFL

954
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: owners meetings, which wrapped up last night. Owners approved a

955
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: huge expansion of the league's replay review system last night,

956
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: bowing to pressure from coaches who were outraged by the

957
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: mispass interference call in the NFC championship game for the

958
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: next season. At least, past interference both offensive and defense

959
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: will be reviewable on replay. First penalties in the history

960
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: of the league's replay system to be added to the

961
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: list of approved reviews, and coaches will be able to

962
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: challenge non calls for past interference as well. The replay

963
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: booth will initiate those challenges in the final final two

964
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 1: minutes of each half. Coaches still limited to two challenges

965
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: per game, a third awarded if they are successful on

966
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: the first two. Big chains talking about it most of

967
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 1: the day here on the show so far, Jordy Nelson's

968
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: time in the NFL has come to an end. The

969
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: thirty three year old wide receiver, recently released by the

970
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders as announced his retirement after a long run

971
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: in the league that began in two thousand and eight.

972
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: Last season with the Raiders, Nelson had sixty three catches

973
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: for three touchdowns in fifteen games and dominicans soon not

974
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: likely to return to the Los Angeles Rams, according to

975
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: general manager Snead Lessnie that's his first name. At the

976
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: NFL meetings last night, Sneet said that resigning the veteran

977
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 1: defensive tackle pretty much off the table for the Rams.

978
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: Lanta Falcons say they're making progress on new deals for

979
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: a couple of key players, defensive tackle Grady Jarrett and

980
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: wide receiver Julio Jones. That statement came from Falcons team

981
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: executive and owner Arthur Blank yesterday. Cliff Kingsbury, new coach

982
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: at the Arizona Cardinals, is going to use part of

983
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: his college coaching background to help him in the NFL.

984
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: He says that he'll implement cell phone breaks during team meetings.

985
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: It's something similar at Texas Tech. He will adapted for

986
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: NFL players who let his players break for their phones

987
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: every twenty or thirty minutes during meeting time. He says

988
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: it'll be right around the time he usually starts to

989
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: see players lose interests and the Buffalo Sabers, speaking of

990
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: losing interests, pose out their three game road trip with

991
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: the fort and lapping loss to Ottawa last night. Sabers

992
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: home tomorrow night for a game against Detroit to hear

993
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: that Steve to hear me get it in that shop.

994
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: I did. I'm not saying that they've lost as I'm

995
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: just saying that even loyal fans like Steve Tasker maybe

996
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: losing interest for it enough, Hey, what do you think

997
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: of that cell phone break thing? You know it's not revolutionary.

998
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: Teams have done it. I read about it and heard

999
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: about it, and I know I've talked to Sean McDermott

1000
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: about it. They you know, the days of hammer and

1001
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: players for hours and hours in a meeting room are over.

1002
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: Now they meet and they have long meeting time, but

1003
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: they know enough to take breaks. Let players get up,

1004
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: walk around, do something different, right, I mean millennial thing

1005
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: they have to do exactly admit, I'll admit that. When

1006
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: I first read it, I was like, I might just

1007
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: do the opposite. When the guy gets to work, having

1008
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: put his check his phone at account, he didn't get

1009
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: it back till the end of the day. And I

1010
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: thought about it because because I mean, I know how

1011
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: valuable that is. Do you want to work to give

1012
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: a guy aside from if I had, if I just listen,

1013
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: I can't use my phone all day. You can call

1014
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: me if you want, but I'm not gonna be able

1015
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: to get back to you until after the day's over.

1016
00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: But so I know how valuable time away from screens are. Uh.

1017
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: And I'm the absolute worst man when I get into

1018
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: my phone. I'm you can't even talk to me, right,

1019
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: I seen it so right, So I'm I'm the worst.

1020
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: You can ask my family. They get after me once

1021
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: in a while. I'm torn between in an atmosphere, professional

1022
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: atmosphere like it is inside the building, of doing what's

1023
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: best for them and tell them to set their phone

1024
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: aside for eight hours until you get back and then

1025
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: you get back to it. You can spend all night,

1026
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: every day on it, all night, all every night on it.

1027
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm torn between doing that, which I think would be

1028
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: better for them, for the players, or doing what will

1029
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, make the day go smoother for you know less,

1030
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: you know, be a bigger, less of a problem for

1031
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: him to do. I don't know. I'm torn between it.

1032
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: I think it's better for him to set it aside

1033
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: and learn how to concentrate. You know, these guys, these players,

1034
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: you've seen it during the season, three or four days

1035
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: a week, they work long days, a ten hour days. Yeah,

1036
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: they really want to so I'm gonna longer than ten Yeah, players,

1037
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, I get it, and I get it. That's

1038
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: to take that out of their life or you know,

1039
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: their some of these guys have pregnant wives too from

1040
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: the outlet. You gotta have their phone. But yeah, and

1041
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: then after I thought about it, like I said, I

1042
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: was gonna be the old guys say, you know you

1043
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: were gonna take your phone away from you? Yeah, I

1044
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, why not just give them

1045
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: a break? I think it keeps the day fresh. Yeah,

1046
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: breaking it up, breaking those meetings up every half hour

1047
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: or so, every twenty minutes, give them five minutes to

1048
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: touch base and then get them back in. I think

1049
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: it probably probably makes them more productive. So I went

1050
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 1: from being the old guy to maybe mister progressive saying yeah,

1051
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: to do it. So I think I talked myself into it.

1052
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: That's been done a lot for both of us. Past

1053
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: interference now reviewable by NFL officials. That's a new uh.

1054
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: I think it's a major shift really in philosophy, a

1055
00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: massive philosophical expansion of replay review according to NFL dot com,

1056
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: and it's a one year tryout, but as we said,

1057
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: you'd never see the toothpaste going back into the tube,

1058
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 1: so it's going to be longer than that. You would

1059
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: think both offensive and defensive pass interference reviewable, first time

1060
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: that the penalties have been reviewable in the NFL replaced system.

1061
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: What do you think of that? That's our Twitter poll.

1062
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: Do you like to change to allow replay review for

1063
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: pass interference? Give us a call? Phone lines open eight

1064
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: o three oh five fifty toll free one eight eight

1065
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty vote in our Twitter poll.

1066
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 1: Those numbers are interesting to me. I like the fact

1067
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: that I can still be surprised by the Twitter poll sometimes,

1068
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: and I'm surprised. No, Seriously, you think you know how

1069
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: people are going to vote today? So far, fifty six

1070
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: percent of the respondence and there's more than seven hundred

1071
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: and sixty respondents. It's fifty six percent. More than half

1072
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: say they like the change to review pass interference. I

1073
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: thought it'd be more than that. Forty four percent say

1074
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: they do not like it. Give us a call and

1075
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: will discuss eight three five fifty toll free one eight

1076
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. I'll tell you

1077
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: one thing that I don't like about it, Steve. It

1078
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: was driven by Sean Payton, the aggrieved coach from the

1079
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 1: NFC title game. Yes, that penalty, that non call crushed

1080
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: his team. They may have won, They probably would have

1081
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: won the NFC champions team championship game if the officials

1082
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: had called it right on the field. So Sean Payton

1083
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: goes to the league meetings and kind of takes it

1084
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 1: upon himself, with the help of others Andy Reid and

1085
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, forces the coaches to spend extra meeting time

1086
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: and say, hey, we're gonna run this through. We're gonna

1087
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 1: ram this through no matter what the competition committee wants.

1088
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: This is what we want. We're the coaches were in

1089
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: charge here, well not really, but Sean Payton talked about

1090
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: and basically you can see him taking a victory lap

1091
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: after the passage of the new rule. Sean Payton on

1092
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: the passage of the new pass interference calls and the

1093
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: fact that replay is now used in pass interference. Here

1094
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: he is, We're trying to address the two fouls that

1095
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: most impact games. So forget at the end of our game.

1096
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: Just look at Pittsburgh meeting. Will is a few weeks

1097
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: or earlier, and the last three years coaches are being

1098
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more judicious with their challenges. I think

1099
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: that will continue, especially in mine of the fact that

1100
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: you now have a more meaningful play you can challenge.

1101
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: And so south of two minutes you know it's in

1102
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: replace hands, but north of two minutes, it's in years.

1103
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: And so I think it will impact the way we

1104
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: watch a game. And I just think there's two more

1105
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: calls that that we're gonna work to get right. And

1106
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: I think that the room felt real good about that. Look,

1107
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: he's right, they are meaningful calls. Right past interferences, We've

1108
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: said seventy percent of the time, they are the impactful

1109
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: plays in a game. You want to get him right,

1110
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: But I don't think this is the way to get

1111
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: him right. And I do think when he says early

1112
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,959
Speaker 1: on in his comments there Peyton said, hey, forget about

1113
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: our game, I think he almost feels guilty about the

1114
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: role he played. Well forget says, forget about our game.

1115
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 1: But think a couple of weeks earlier to New Orleans

1116
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh, he's a different one of our games. Right. So,

1117
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. Here's why you know, you're kind

1118
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: of like, wow, you kind of roll your eyes at this.

1119
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: For a long time, for decades, since the league was

1120
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: in its inception, the owners have always kind of protected

1121
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: the owner the coaches from themselves, and the coaches have

1122
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: always come up with different ideas and said listen, you know,

1123
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: like notoriously, Bill Belichick said, listen, we should be able

1124
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: to challenge every single call on the field. There should

1125
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: We should have our challenges and we should be able

1126
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: to use them in every way anyway we want challenge,

1127
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: a penalty challenge, a non penalty challenge, this, challenge, that challenge, whatever,

1128
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: and should be able to do it. And the league has,

1129
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 1: i think, in my estimations rightfully so said no, you're

1130
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: not going to do that. And I think it's kind

1131
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: of protecting the coaches from their desire to control the

1132
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: entire game. I think the league stepped away from that

1133
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: philosophy and this They let the coaches say what they

1134
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: wanted and make it happen. And this is the first

1135
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: time where you're going to get like a picture. It

1136
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: play comes happen, it's it's over a place. Guys are

1137
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 1: jogging back in the huddle, nobody you know, we're all

1138
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: sitting there gonna, okay, cool, incomplete pass. Here we go

1139
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: and then the flag comes out, now what you know,

1140
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: and they'll say, what's gonna happen? Then they'll have to

1141
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: go back and review it. And how's it going to

1142
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: be if that happens, and then it's not. You know,

1143
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: you lose your penalty and we're all we had to

1144
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: sit there and wait for you to do that. And

1145
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: that's just um for something nobody know, particularly if you're

1146
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: a visiting team, you know, the crowd's not gonna like it.

1147
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, yeah, come on, yeah, that's I

1148
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: don't worry. I don't know. People have said will make

1149
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: games longer, that it's not gonna make the game long.

1150
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: I don't think it will. You still have the same

1151
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: amount of challenges. Um, maybe you get a fewer challenges

1152
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: issued from a coach knowing that he has this now

1153
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: important weapon in his pocket. Right, it's almost like the

1154
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: challenge isn't gonna be It's not gonna be the getting

1155
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: it right. It's gonna be getting it right at the

1156
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: right time. They're gonna hold these chen He alluded to it,

1157
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna be judicious with this, because you know,

1158
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a more right, crucial play later in

1159
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 1: the game that you really need it for. So here

1160
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: in the third quarter, where there might have been a turnover,

1161
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: or might have been a score, or might have been

1162
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: a big play, you're gonna give that play up thinking

1163
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: there's going to be a more crucial one later in

1164
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: the game, or if you've got a seven point lead

1165
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: or a ten point lead, you're not gonna use it.

1166
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: Then you're gonna use it when that leads in jeopardy

1167
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: later in the game, when you've got to have it,

1168
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: or when you've they've taken the lead away from you,

1169
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: so you're gonna hold it. So it's not about getting

1170
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: it right, it's about getting it right when you choose

1171
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: to get it right. The play you choose that's most crucial.

1172
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: So that's a slippery slope. It is from the tweet sheet.

1173
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: Do you like to change the review pass interference on replay?

1174
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: The Bills Monster says, I do not like this rules change.

1175
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't believe judgment call should be reviewable.

1176
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: It takes away a spontaneous celebration. We are on a

1177
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: slippery slope here. Football is a game played by humans,

1178
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: referee by humans. Errors are a part of this Bills Monster,

1179
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean, when it comes right down to it,

1180
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: I agree with exactly that you cannot and the commissioner

1181
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: said it not gonna be perfect. Replay is not made.

1182
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it's made officiating any better. Replay over

1183
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: the decades now that it's been in place, I don't

1184
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: think it's eliminated human error. It's another place where human

1185
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: error can be exercise in the replay boot. Let's take

1186
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 1: a phone call on this issue. Mark on the line

1187
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: from Buffalo. Hello, Marco, ahand you're on the air with this, Hey, Murphy, Steve,

1188
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: good afternoon. How are you good? Hey? I think we're

1189
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: with all these rule changes and all this talked about replay,

1190
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: what should be what should not be replayed, all that

1191
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: it's a continuation of treating the symptom rather than the

1192
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: problem the disease. If you guys remember I mean, I'm

1193
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: sixty years old. I've been watching football now for fifty years.

1194
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: And replay came into existence because the officiating had become

1195
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: so inconsistent and there were so many bad calls missed

1196
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: that it was a necessity for it to come into existence.

1197
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: My opinion is that they should go to a system

1198
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: of full time murferrees. And I know there's a lot

1199
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: of people that say that wouldn't make a difference, but

1200
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing that if you take

1201
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: young men and you make that their craft, and they

1202
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: go through continual training with the overseeing of the league

1203
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: teaching them, telling them how they want the game to

1204
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: be called, how they want plays to be called. That

1205
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: it won't get better, and that you go with the

1206
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: calls of those men who you now trust, and you

1207
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: just curtail replay to only scoring plays and change a

1208
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: possession everything else. We go with the call on the field,

1209
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: and you'll be confident that you're getting the best you

1210
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: can out of human replace or out of human officials

1211
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: to call the game properly. But they refuse to do

1212
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: what Peyton or Sean Payton did address he said, why

1213
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: don't we have full timer ferees. Nobody's saying that's going

1214
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: to cure the whole problem. But I gotta believe with

1215
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: consistent training and overseeing of the league, we don't even

1216
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: know how these officials right now are trained or how

1217
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: much they are trained well, and how are they going

1218
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: to address in this rule. One other problem with this,

1219
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: I think it's widely agreed that refereeing crews call games differently.

1220
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: Some crews call interference and they call physical play by

1221
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: defensive backs a lot closer than some other crews call

1222
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: so how are we going to get past the inconsistencies

1223
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: of just that mark outstanding call. Yeah, I agree, I

1224
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: agree with everything you just said. You're exactly right. There's

1225
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: no question that full time officials are long overdue. They've

1226
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: begun to move in that direction. I don't have a problem.

1227
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with the way they're doing

1228
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: it now, given the constraints of having these guys be

1229
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: part time. But if they were full time, it would

1230
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: expand their ability to prepare them in the off season

1231
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: to get up to snuff and get consistency from one

1232
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: crew to the other. Now, as far as your reference

1233
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: to that one crew calling PI pet pass interference more

1234
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: than another or holding more than another, they mixed the

1235
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: cruise every year, so there's really no way to say

1236
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: this official is this or that official is that from

1237
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: year to year? That change is because the crews do

1238
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: mix and interact and intermingle. They'll they'll put this field

1239
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: judge inside judge on this crew, and that line judge

1240
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: and that umpire on that crew. They do mix them

1241
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: up from year to year, so that all these guys

1242
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: kind of know each other and there is some consistency

1243
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: from year to year. Across the cruise. They don't get

1244
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: these crews that are just so ingrained that they can

1245
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: become predictable. And but I agree with you, there's no

1246
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: question that full time officials would be easier and more

1247
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: credible for the league than the guys they have doing

1248
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: a noun Just maybe they wouldn't be any better, but

1249
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: at least there'd be one less whole in their argument.

1250
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: I think they'd be better. I do. I don't how

1251
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: can they not be The training would make a difference,

1252
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: And I think I want the officials to have their

1253
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: their professional livelihood at stake when they step on the field,

1254
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: not just the lucrative part time let's face it job.

1255
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this is a a player, and

1256
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: I know it. It's the same It was in the

1257
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: same in the sixties, seventies, the nineties, and it is

1258
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: the same now. The players and coaches want one thing consistency.

1259
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: You call it this way want today, call it this

1260
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: way next week. And he call it this way in

1261
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: the first quarter, call it the same way in the

1262
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And in this crew you call it that way.

1263
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: I want that other crew that's on the West coast

1264
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: to call it the same way. That's that is, that's

1265
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: the bar, that's the standard, whether the whatever you write

1266
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: the rules, just enforce them the same way. The players

1267
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Speaker 1: and coaches will adjust accordingly. But that's the big that's

1268
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, that's the holy grail. You can get every

1269
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: crew around the National Football League and every official calling

1270
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: the penalty's the exact same way. We can all live

1271
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Speaker 1: with the results of that because the players and coaches

1272
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: will adjust to that. That's easy. From David and DC,

1273
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: Go ahead, David, welcome to the show, because actually Fox

1274
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: Molder from DC and I want Steve to put on

1275
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: his two fole a half dude, Okay, I got my

1276
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: my conspiracy theory hat exactly. All right, go ahead, go ahead.

1277
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: X files to thos are going around. Do you think

1278
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: that it might be and I think it's all these

1279
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: new rules are predicated on the fact that they would

1280
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: like to merge the NFL with the CFL and one

1281
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 1: big money grab. I don't think so. I think there's

1282
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: some I think there's some anti trust problems they have.

1283
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: The CFL does the NFL a service although it's in Canada.

1284
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: It keeps them from having any anti trust problems much

1285
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: money in the Yeah, the CFL is not on the

1286
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: same level as the NFL. There's nine teams in the league.

1287
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: Their salary cap is somewhere between five and a half

1288
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: and six million dollars for the same size roster. So

1289
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: you can imagine the jump that would be and it

1290
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: would be a huge drag on the NFL. They don't

1291
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: want to share that money with the CFL. The CFL

1292
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: brings nothing to the table for them financially. Yeah, it

1293
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: opens up some markets, but that would not be in

1294
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: Canadian market matters really well to Toronto and Vancouver probably,

1295
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: but Vancouver is right next to Seattle and Toronto's right

1296
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: next to Buffalo. Yeah. So, uh, it's it's not as

1297
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: it's not that apple out there that is so enticing

1298
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: as you might think. League probably be more interested in

1299
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: expanding into Europe, right, yeah, I mean than than Canada. Yeah,

1300
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: I think so. I think so. I think there's the

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01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: travel is a thing. They'd probably be interested in going

1302
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: south to Mexico rather than than north to Canada. I

1303
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: think there's more more interest there. I get it. Call

1304
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: on the line from Scott in Nashville. Hello Scott, Hey, guys.

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01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: A couple of things. One kind of where Mark was

1306
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: talking about. A game is called a certain way, and

1307
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: then it comes down the biggest play of the game.

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01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: Somebody looks at the three play and says, I don't

1309
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: like that. I'm gonna go ahead and overturn that. That's

1310
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem. And then every hail mary that's

1311
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: ever thrown is kind of a you know, everything goes

1312
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: it's never flagged, m sixty yard pass, everybody together and

1313
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 1: ball these drops or whatever, and now we're gonna look

1314
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: at it and say, oh, well he pushed and we're

1315
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: gonna I can just see that being absolutely horrible. Every week,

1316
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: the hail mary seventy yards heave and we're gonna throw

1317
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: a flag because something happened that was technically against the rules. Scott,

1318
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: that's a really good point. Yeah, I didn't think about that.

1319
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: The hail mary is always it was brought up a

1320
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: little early, yeah, until we got on the show. And

1321
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: keeping mind, hail marys are going to be for the

1322
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: most part, in the final two minutes of each half,

1323
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: and so that would be the replay official call in

1324
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: the booth at the stadium to say, we got to

1325
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: take a closer look at this. This will be an

1326
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: entirely so there's no coach challenge involved in these hail marys.

1327
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: This will be an entirely league operated review right replay

1328
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: Booth says, we got to look at this. The people

1329
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: in New York look at it. All of a sudden,

1330
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: the game, the locus of the game has been transferred

1331
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: from Orchard Park to New York. And do they have

1332
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: it in them to you pointed out Scott in Nashville,

1333
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: Do they have it in them to to take over

1334
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: the game and those critical calls and start to say,

1335
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: look on this, hail mary. Uh, these three guys around

1336
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 1: the intended target. One of them pushed, we'll play it again.

1337
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: Do they have that in them to call that? I

1338
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: don't know. We'll find out. They'll have a policy about it.

1339
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: They'll have a policy that we'll all become where I

1340
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: say yes or no, and I'll tell you you said,

1341
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: and Scott, you said. You know those hail marys. And

1342
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: it's never called unless Buffalo is playing in New England

1343
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: and it's to just give it to him game. Wade

1344
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: Phillips and the Bills are over there, and they not

1345
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: only gave him or whatever, they're not even gave the

1346
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: first down on fourth down. When they didn't get it,

1347
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: they also gave him a hail Mary called defensive passenger

1348
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: here there, No, I was watching. I was watching. That's

1349
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: my first year retired. I was just gonna say, you

1350
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: have a like notable wounds from that game. Even there,

1351
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: you ask Wade Phillips about that, I know he'll give

1352
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: you a dissertation about it. And it was like one play.

1353
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: It was like four plays, and it wasn't four plays around,

1354
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: it was three out of four plays where the officials

1355
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: just give it to him. I can't believe you already

1356
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,919
Speaker 1: had they called Yeah, it's the it's the biggest. Yeah,

1357
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: it was bad. I was there, and that's right. There's

1358
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: gonna be a policy about that. The league say, listen, listen,

1359
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: you have to have a uniform policy about what's gonna

1360
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: happen at the end of a game when the ball

1361
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: is up for grabs in the end zone for the win,

1362
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: because the fangs come out, desperation sets in, and penalties

1363
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 1: happen every single time. And now it's reviewable by the league,

1364
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: not by a coach. By the league, what are you

1365
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: gonna do, What are you gonna tell? What are you

1366
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: gonna tell the officials to do. What are you gonna

1367
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: tell the review guys to do what's going to be

1368
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: the policy, because that's gonna happen, and it's gonna happen

1369
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: more than once. It's interesting, and it's a little bit

1370
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: like you're what you describe and I'm not just disagreeing

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01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: with you. I think you're right. It's a little bit

1372
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 1: like hockey. Right at the end of a hockey game,

1373
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: at the end of a playoff game in the nh

1374
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 1: when they say, wow, they put the whistles away. That's

1375
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: the way it's been played in the NFL. Hail Mary's right,

1376
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: they put the whistles away. You guys go play settle

1377
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: at one play? Are they willing to do that? And

1378
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: then well, then it becomes whoever's willing to cheat the

1379
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: most and think that they can get away with it

1380
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: and get away with it. It becomes who's willing to

1381
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 1: break the rules in the biggest way possible to win

1382
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: and take a chance and and and dare them to

1383
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: make the call the To their credit John Harbon, the

1384
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens with Ray Lewis and that gang on defense,

1385
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 1: they were notorious for that. They went ultra aggressive every

1386
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: time the chips were down, and they dared him to

1387
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: make a call right. Once in a while, once in

1388
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: a while they'd get called for it, but more often

1389
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: than not they would not right. They want a super Bowl.

1390
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: Their last Super Bowl in New Orleans, when the lights

1391
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: went out, the Niners had a two point conversion. It

1392
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 1: was past. It was holding, defensive holding, it was defensive

1393
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: pass interference, and it was and it was a third

1394
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:03,520
Speaker 1: thing too. It was all of that stuff illegal contact.

1395
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: It was all of that on the same play and

1396
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: not any of them were called on a play that

1397
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: decided the Super Bowl. It gave the Niners a chance

1398
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: to tie that Super Bowl up. Now, let me ask

1399
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,879
Speaker 1: you this as a former player and as a sideline

1400
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 1: observer for that game in particular, does it come down

1401
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 1: to an actual directive from the sideline vella's last play

1402
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: of the game or you know, almost a last play

1403
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: of the game. Uh all you know, all hands on deck,

1404
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: do whatever you gotta, don't worry about the official or

1405
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 1: is it just understood by players we can get away

1406
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: with any actual both. They talk about it. They say, listen,

1407
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: if we do this, we're gonna play hard. We're playing hard.

1408
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: And if they want to call it. Hey, we'll get

1409
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: another chance. We'll take the penalty, but we're gonna force them.

1410
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna play it to the edge them to call.

1411
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: We're gonna force them to call it if they need

1412
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: to do not let them catch that ball. Yeah, and

1413
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 1: do everything you can. Don't make it flagrant, but you

1414
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: gotta you know, you gotta play. And that's what to

1415
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: force them to make the call. If they make the call,

1416
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: what's the worst that's going to happen. They're gonna get

1417
01:09:58,120 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: another try to do it. Yeah, force them to x

1418
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: acute it. So it's you know, that's the defenses way

1419
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: of you know, playing aggressive in those situations and forcing

1420
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: the officials to do it. And the officials know it.

1421
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 1: You know, if the officials they're gonna they got a

1422
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 1: decision to make. Yeah, that's a really good point. And

1423
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: you're right. It came up last hour as well. I'm

1424
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: thinking about uncatchable balls. But hill Mary's are going to

1425
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: be an issue too, huge jug issue. Call online from

1426
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 1: David and Brockport. Hello, David, welcome, Yes, Hi, John and Steve. Hi.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead. Um, when they blow the whistle and the

1428
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: play is dead, is the revealable after that? Because New England.

1429
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: New England, they're so fast with the whistle all the

1430
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 1: time that you can review plays against New England and

1431
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: that's anybody that plays them, but mostly US. Yeah, I

1432
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: don't know about that. But the same rules apply. Yeah,

1433
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,600
Speaker 1: the same rules will apply. If they want to go

1434
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: quick snap and get you out of and and force

1435
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: you to make the decision too quick for you to

1436
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 1: be sure about it, they can do that. Yeah, every

1437
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 1: team can do that. All right, we're gonna talk more

1438
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: about this. Dean Blandino, former NFL head of officiating, now

1439
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 1: with the Fox Network, standing body to join us to

1440
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 1: give his take on the change in past interference rule.

1441
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: He's coming up next. Come on back, you want to

1442
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: hear this. One Bill's Live presented by a Lot of

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01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: Health from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: Welcome back to John Murphy, was Steve Tasker. It's One

1445
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: Bills Live or coming here from One Bill's Drive talking

1446
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,759
Speaker 1: about the rules changes in the National Football League past interference.

1447
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: Now we're reviewable by instant replaying the NFL on the

1448
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 1: line with us, a guy who knows a lot about this.

1449
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna get a lot of information here Dean Blandino,

1450
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: NFL and Fox NFL on Fox and Comge football rules analysts,

1451
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: former NFL Vice president of officiating for five years. Dean

1452
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: Blandino on the line with us. Hello Dean, thanks for

1453
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: coming on. John Murphy and Steam Tasker up here in Buffalo.

1454
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: Thank you, no problem, good good beyond with you, guys.

1455
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: We got a lot to ask you, and let me

1456
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 1: just start with this. The rules change. Pass interference now reviewable.

1457
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: Is this a major philosophical expansion of replayed in your mind? Yeah,

1458
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: this is the biggest change since replay came back in

1459
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: ninety nine, without question, And obviously the play that happened

1460
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game was a trigger for this conversation.

1461
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 1: And you know, competition committee was philosophically opposed to reviewing

1462
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: these types of foul as recently as last year, and

1463
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: they did at one eighty And because this rule change

1464
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 1: passed almost unanimously, there was only one, only one dissenter

1465
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 1: to thirty one to one. Yeah, it does seem like

1466
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: a major revision, Dean. And I'm wondering did the coaches

1467
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: kind of ram this through taking, you know, just kind

1468
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: of pushing it past the competition committee. That's a bit

1469
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: of a change here, too, isn't it. Yeah, you know,

1470
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: the coaches were definitely a big driver here and they

1471
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 1: got together and obviously, you know, Sean Payton bean on

1472
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: the Competition Committee, was part of it. But Shaun, you know,

1473
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:08,799
Speaker 1: Shaun's a a not someone that is going to react,

1474
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 1: have a knee jerk reaction to something something. He does

1475
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: think big picture. But I think the coach has just

1476
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: felt that, um, you know, these games are there's so

1477
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: much riding on these games, and you know past deference

1478
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 1: calls are significant calls in the game, and that they

1479
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: wanted to push for this um. But it was interesting

1480
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 1: that the committee was, you know, as recently as Monday,

1481
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: they were split. You know, from what I heard, it

1482
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: was it was four four on this proposal on Monday,

1483
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: but then Tuesday everybody got in line. So I think

1484
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: it was the coaches, probably the commissioner gave his input

1485
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: and uh, and here we are what are the what

1486
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: are the probabilities of the law of unattended consequence? So

1487
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: I know that's a big point of emphasis whenever they

1488
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 1: make rule changes and when you look down the road

1489
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 1: and how this is going to play out at the

1490
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: end of games with hail mary passes or um. How

1491
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 1: are they going to handle this? There's a couple of

1492
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: things about it. One, hail mary passes at the end

1493
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: of game when it's so physical down there, it seems

1494
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 1: like if they're going to call offensive or defensive pass interference,

1495
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 1: it's a win for the offense because they'll just get

1496
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: another try at it. And also what if the pass

1497
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: interference happens away from the ball. Yeah, there's a lot

1498
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 1: of things, and that's my biggest concern. When you make

1499
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: this significance of a change and you do it at

1500
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: the last minute, similar to the helmet rule last year. Well,

1501
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: now we've got to figure out We haven't vetted it

1502
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 1: out to the extent that we normally do during the

1503
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: competition committee process, so now everybody's playing catchup. We got

1504
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 1: to figure out all of these things. What's the standard?

1505
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: Is it going to be the letter of the law,

1506
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 1: Meaning if the replay official sees the contact a split

1507
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 1: second a frame early, whereas the official on the field

1508
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: sees that as a bang bang play and doesn't call it,

1509
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: are we going to officiate it and replay to that

1510
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 1: degree and be that technical to create a What could

1511
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 1: be a forty yard pass deference penalty or an offensive

1512
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: past inference call that takes back a touch. Now, these

1513
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: are all things they have to work through. Now, is

1514
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: it possible that catchable uncatchable passes might become a problem

1515
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 1: for the for the RepA officials talk about that? If

1516
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 1: you did, absolutely. I think the way this rule is written,

1517
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 1: it just adds pass an affairance to the list of

1518
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: reviewable categories. So now you have to think about, Okay,

1519
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: what when can pass interference exist? It has to be

1520
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 1: with the ball in the air. It has to be

1521
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 1: more than a yard downfield. It has to it has

1522
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 1: to the ball has to be catchable. So all of

1523
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 1: these things have to happen. And now it opens all

1524
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: of those aspects up to review, and that's going to

1525
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how that plays out. We're talking

1526
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: to Dean Blandino, former vice president of officiating in the NFL,

1527
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 1: and Dean, I want to ask you. You've been in

1528
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 1: the room and you've been that voice where every official

1529
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: in every game comes over and talks in New York

1530
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: about what's going on. What kind of policy would the

1531
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: NFL put in place of to the replay guys to

1532
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 1: say Hey, listen, if it does get a bang bang

1533
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: play or if it is in the end zone at

1534
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: the end of the game, last play of a game

1535
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: on a hail Mary, wouldn't there be a policy in

1536
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: place as to how they handle that replay and that

1537
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: challenge from the booth. Yeah, there has to be. There

1538
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: has to be some directive as to what is going

1539
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,799
Speaker 1: to be the standard, And if it were me, it's

1540
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,799
Speaker 1: got to be a clear and obvious standard. That meaning

1541
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: that if the call is made on the field, it

1542
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 1: has to be clear and obvious that it's incorrect for

1543
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: you to overturn it. And if it's not made on

1544
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: the field, it has to be clear and obvious that

1545
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 1: it was a foul for you to create it. And

1546
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: I think that's where they have to start. You know,

1547
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: you think about the play in the NFC Championship game

1548
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 1: that was obvious start there and then but there's going

1549
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: to be plays, as you know, Steve, it's such a

1550
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: fast game. You know, if the defender puts his hand

1551
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: on the receiver results from just before the ball gets there,

1552
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: or there's a slight jersey grab, you know, is that

1553
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: going to raise to the level of where we're officiating

1554
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 1: that in replay and we're making Matt pass affairs, it's

1555
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see. Yeah, I mean, there's

1556
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 1: got to be a policy in place for bang bang plays. Um.

1557
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: It's always been a mantra with the NFL officiating that

1558
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 1: if it is almost simultaneous that even if the defenders

1559
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:27,839
Speaker 1: there early, they're gonna let that slide. That all changes

1560
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: if a coach decides to challenge that play, I mean

1561
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: is technically and by the rule of the of the

1562
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,919
Speaker 1: Now we're you know, when you're talking about an egregious

1563
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: miss I get it, But when you're talking about the

1564
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: rule and when you're talking about a team actually benefiting

1565
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: from a bang bang play, don't you really have to

1566
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 1: call it the way it is on the replay, even

1567
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: at slow motion. I think that's I think that's going

1568
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 1: to be the key question. Because the rules are written

1569
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 1: for officials to make decisions in real time. That's why

1570
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: the bang bang play is incomplete because they can't slow

1571
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: it down right, they can't go frame by frame. So

1572
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 1: in order to be consistent, they go they make the

1573
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 1: bang bang play not a foul. Now, if you're going

1574
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,560
Speaker 1: to review it and you're going to go to that degree.

1575
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 1: I think if you're going to get that technical, what

1576
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 1: is a foul on the field or not a foul

1577
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: in the field is going to be different in replay,

1578
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: and that's that's that's a concern. Dean Blandino, our guest,

1579
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 1: former NFL Vice president of officiating. You and Steve Dean

1580
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: have been talking about a little bit about the the

1581
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 1: NFC Championship gameplay, which was a non call. To my mind,

1582
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 1: if that's maybe the biggest transition here in the rule

1583
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,719
Speaker 1: past yesterday, Now non calls are reviewable, never happened before.

1584
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: I just think that's a dangerous step to take. What

1585
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 1: do you think about that? Yeah, I think my biggest

1586
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,759
Speaker 1: concern about that is when the replay officials responsible inside

1587
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: two minutes. I don't mind the coach. If the coach

1588
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: thinks it's fast in inference and they have a limited

1589
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 1: number of challenges and they're willing to risk that time out,

1590
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 1: let throw the challenge plague. I'm okay with that. I

1591
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: just think when it's the replay officials responsibility inside of

1592
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: two minutes and there's no limits, that concerns me because

1593
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: now are they going to be looking for you know,

1594
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: on every play, there's contact on every play, and so

1595
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, Steve mentioned the hail Mary, but there's a

1596
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 1: lot of contact downfield, and is that replay official now

1597
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 1: going to be looking at you know, the Cooks play

1598
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: in the in the Super Bowl, you know where past

1599
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 1: inference was not called and the defender had his arm

1600
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 1: on the receiver. You know, is that now going to

1601
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 1: become a foul inside two minutes? That that's what concerns

1602
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 1: me the most. And there's another concern I have, And

1603
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 1: I have an interest in Canadian football. I have a

1604
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: son that plays up there. One of the things that

1605
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: happens up there is that the team with the ball

1606
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 1: can always make the argument that, yeah, we threw the

1607
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: ball deep down the sideline. There was no there was

1608
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,760
Speaker 1: no penalty on the sideline of the incomplete pass. But

1609
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: the reason I threw it deep down the right sideline

1610
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: was because on the left side line the guy I

1611
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 1: wanted to throw it too, there was interference away from

1612
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: the ball. Are you going are they going to force

1613
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: the team that challenges to pick the defender that made

1614
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: the foul or are they just going to say, hey,

1615
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: somewhere out there, there's a penalty, go find it. They're gonna.

1616
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have to be specific. They're gonna

1617
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,600
Speaker 1: have to be specific as to what the foul is

1618
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 1: and who committed it. I don't think they're going to

1619
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 1: allow the coach to just make a blanket challenge and say, hey,

1620
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 1: go find something. I think the concern also is you

1621
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 1: have defensive holding and illegal contact fouls that occur prior

1622
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: to the past being in the air that are not

1623
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: by definition, are not pasting afferience. You could have a

1624
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 1: call made on the field for past inference and the

1625
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: coach says, wait a minute, the ball wasn't in the air.

1626
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 1: That's not a foul for past inference, and they pick

1627
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: it up and what really should have been a foul

1628
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: is no longer And that's concerning as well. So help

1629
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:52,839
Speaker 1: me think that, your dean. So if a coach challenges

1630
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 1: says there's interference on that call, and they don't find interference,

1631
01:20:56,280 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: but they do see illegal contact or or defensive holding,

1632
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 1: which occurs a lot. Actually, when you look at past

1633
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: interference calls, can they call that penalty instead vy replay?

1634
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: No they can't. So it's just fast inference, defensive holding

1635
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: and illegal contact are not part of this. Yeah, that's

1636
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: now you can see this, I mean, Dan, the slippery

1637
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 1: slope becomes incredibly evident when you start dissecting what this

1638
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 1: is gonna look like. Now, is there a chance and

1639
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: how many times have you seen We've seen it once

1640
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: before where they took replay out of the game when

1641
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 1: the technology couldn't kept keep up with the demands. Is

1642
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: there a chance and how many times have you seen

1643
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 1: the league change the rule back? Yeah? Well, what they did,

1644
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: which is smart, they put this in for one year,

1645
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 1: meaning that it's a one year deal and they have

1646
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 1: to vote it back in next year, so you don't

1647
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 1: need twenty four votes to vote it out, and so

1648
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 1: they can they can study it and then make changes,

1649
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: make tweaks, you know, just eliminate it altogether, you know,

1650
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 1: in twenty twenties. So I think that's smart you don't

1651
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: put it in as a permanent rule. But but again,

1652
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some growing pains here, and I would

1653
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 1: not be surprised if we don't have, you know, some

1654
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: corrections throughout the season, whether it's in the preseason or

1655
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: what we saw last year with rough in the passer

1656
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: and the body weight deal. We recorrect We did some

1657
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 1: corrections on that. I think this is going to be

1658
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 1: a fluid process. How transparent is the league and your experience,

1659
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: How transparent is the league willing to be as they

1660
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 1: move through the season to let people know or the

1661
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: fans know about how it's going, yes or no, or

1662
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: here's the changes we're making on the fly. Here are

1663
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,719
Speaker 1: they gonna like keep the media and the fans abreast

1664
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: of how it's going. I don't, you know, if it's

1665
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 1: if it's something minor, I think that happens quite a bit.

1666
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 1: And if if it's not, if we don't have an

1667
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 1: epidemic and we don't have an outcry, I don't think

1668
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna get into all the all of the nuance

1669
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: of it. But if there's an outcry and like we

1670
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:01,680
Speaker 1: saw last year with rough in the passer and then

1671
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 1: they have to have a competition committee call, then I

1672
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:07,640
Speaker 1: think they'll they'll be transparent about it. And because I

1673
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing is just making sure everybody's on

1674
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 1: the same page as to how this thing is going

1675
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 1: to work. Mean, the last thing I have for you,

1676
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, this new rule, this new twist allowing a

1677
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: replay challenges on passing in affair and said that provides

1678
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 1: more power to a coach, right, more authority to a

1679
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 1: coach to impact the game. Do you think with that

1680
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 1: in mind, coaches might keep that other challenge in reserve,

1681
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,639
Speaker 1: thinking I got to hang onto this. I might need

1682
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: this in a game clinching situation, for a for a

1683
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 1: big passplay, a defensive passplay. What do you think? Yeah,

1684
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: I think I think it's certainly you know, it adds

1685
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 1: to what the coaches can challenge, and I think they're

1686
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: going to have to be judicious with their challenges. You know,

1687
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: the league has taken away a lot of what they

1688
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 1: had to challenge, scoring plays and turnovers out about two

1689
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 1: minutes they don't have to worry about. So I think

1690
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: they're going to have to keep one in their pocket

1691
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: for late in the game, you know, north of two minutes,

1692
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: for that potential you know, passing affairs challenge. And then

1693
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: again that's that's part of something they do now. But

1694
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: again it's just going to be an added thing that

1695
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 1: they have to consider. One more quick question, how do

1696
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 1: you think the officials will handle this? The rank and file?

1697
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: What do you think they think of this? You know,

1698
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't the on field officials are really good about replay.

1699
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 1: They they do what they do on the field and

1700
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 1: they let replay take care of what replay needs to do.

1701
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 1: I think the real challenge is going to be you

1702
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: have seventeen crews. You have seventeen replay officials that just

1703
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: got a significant um you know, added something added to

1704
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 1: their plate. Now they're gonna have to start studying fast

1705
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: an inference, what is what isn't and because they're gonna

1706
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: be responsible for stopping the game inside two minutes. And

1707
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be UM their biggest challenges

1708
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 1: those replay officials. I think the onfield officials, it won't

1709
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: change how they how they officiate the play. Dean, thanks

1710
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 1: for this. I know you're busy today. We appreciate you

1711
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 1: spend it a few minutes with us here today. Thank

1712
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 1: you you got guys. Dean Blandino, NFL on Fox and

1713
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 1: College Ball Rules Analysts, former League vice president of Officiating

1714
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 1: for five years, College Football Officiating, director of Incident Replay.

1715
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 1: Right now, he is perfectly positioned to talk about this.

1716
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: He makes really good points. Steve. Replay officials, some of

1717
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 1: whom are former referees and officials, most of them, most

1718
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 1: of them who are not most of them, are you think? Yeah?

1719
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 1: I think. I know. I went to college with guys

1720
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 1: who never you know, put on a striped shirt and

1721
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,640
Speaker 1: have been replay officials, you know what I mean? And

1722
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: now they got to study up on that. They had

1723
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: to know other rules as well, but now they really

1724
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 1: have some pretty intricate passenger perance rules are gonna have

1725
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 1: to be for a time. Oh, let me just be snarky.

1726
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: That's not that big a deal. They're only part time,

1727
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: exactly all of them. I believe I'm part time the

1728
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 1: replay officials, right, part time? Man, that's the thing I

1729
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 1: did not think of. Good point by Dean Blendina. We'll

1730
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: talk more about him and we return. Come on back

1731
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by a Lot of Health from

1732
01:25:50,880 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

1733
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 1: in one of Goes Live. I'm John Murphy and Steve

1734
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 1: Caster is with us here until three o'clock today. Lots

1735
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 1: of time to talk more next hour, obviously about the

1736
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 1: NFL officiating replay review for past interference? Are we beating

1737
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,560
Speaker 1: this to death? You think shooting? Oh? Man, I got it.

1738
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 1: I'm getting out another So I'm getting out another stick

1739
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: to start swinging in. We might be beating it to death.

1740
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 1: I think it's significant, I really do. I think Dean

1741
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 1: Blandino agreed it is significant to you include non calls

1742
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,640
Speaker 1: as challengeable. There's no penalty there, but I think there was.

1743
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: So here comes a challenge. Pass interference. Yes, some of

1744
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 1: the most significant penalties called in games, the most game

1745
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 1: altering penalties are pass interference calls. When you include those,

1746
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 1: m yes, this is this is big. And as somebody said, um,

1747
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 1: we were talking in the other room, I know you

1748
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 1: got something else you really want to talk about. But um,

1749
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 1: offensive past interference? Now how many times and you do

1750
01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: games like I do you see it in the receiver

1751
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 1: get open? And you're like, oh, he got separation there.

1752
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: Look how he used his left arm to get separation.

1753
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: Technically that is offensive past interference. Are we ready to

1754
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 1: remove those plays from everything? I am not look at

1755
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 1: him get separation. Look how he uses his body. You

1756
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 1: know we're patting guys on the back for opis. Once

1757
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: in a while that doesn't get called. So now you

1758
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 1: gotta replay official who's gonna look at this? Are we

1759
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,679
Speaker 1: ready for him to say, yeah, that's a big play?

1760
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 1: But they challenge it. He said it was offensive pas interference,

1761
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 1: and when they look at it, he got separation. All right,

1762
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: he got it by pushing off a little bit. Are

1763
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: we ready for that? This is like taking off a blindfold? Yeah,

1764
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 1: I mean it's like that big a difference. There's I mean,

1765
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 1: there's so many permutations of how this is going to

1766
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 1: affect how games are perceived and digested and what you

1767
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: look for and what fans see and what they want

1768
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 1: is I don't think you can see the results yet.

1769
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of scary. You don't know how

1770
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 1: this is gonna look. It could blow up in their face.

1771
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: And if it blows up in their face, it's gonna

1772
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 1: be bad. Yeah, it's gonna be really bad. And Dean says,

1773
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: that's only one year. But as we know, and as

1774
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: we've seen, these things typically are put in for one

1775
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 1: year and then renewed indefinitely the next year, these rules changes.

1776
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, you're in a chicken wing eating Okay,

1777
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 1: here's the thing, chicken wing. Are you actually eating one wing? Well?

1778
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: I did, but not for this's Duff's. You know, they're

1779
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 1: the official wing provider to the Buffalo bills. They got

1780
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 1: this thing. They got this bracket out for March Madness,

1781
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 1: and I am actually in the bracket. I actually advanced

1782
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 1: by beating Brandon Bean. Uh and the wing thing we advance, well,

1783
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: I think it's just fan votes who who they think

1784
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 1: could eat more wings? So the fans thought you would

1785
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: eat more wings. And the problem is I'm in the

1786
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 1: bracket called the process me Kyle Williams, Sean McDermott, Brandon

1787
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 1: Bean And now I faced Kyle Williams because he was

1788
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: he won the voting over Sean McDermott. Now I don't

1789
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 1: like my chances eating wings with Kyle Williams. Well, the

1790
01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:58,799
Speaker 1: good news is you don't actually have We know it's

1791
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 1: all fictitious, it's all a fan voting. So but I

1792
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 1: did make well, I guess that makes time one, two three,

1793
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 1: I make the elite eight. Yes, right, what are you

1794
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 1: going to win? Nothing? Do you ever actually taste a

1795
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,719
Speaker 1: wing from Duff because I highly recommend them the final.

1796
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: The final I think probably does come down to eating

1797
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: wings something, you know, for some photo op or something

1798
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 1: right right up your alley, right my right, my photo.

1799
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm told you can vote for Steve or anybody else

1800
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 1: at Buffalo Bills dot Com. Yeah, that's where the bracket is.

1801
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 1: I get harkedemp thing, and what am I voting for?

1802
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:38,560
Speaker 1: It's the alumni against the two thousand nineteen offense of

1803
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 1: the Bills. That's one. That's two brackets. One's the alumni

1804
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 1: bracket with Thurman, Andre, Eric Wood and Jim Kelly. Then

1805
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:47,719
Speaker 1: it's the two thousand nineteen offense with Josh Allen, Zay Jones,

1806
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:52,879
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins, Lesha McCoy. Then the two thousand nineteen defense bracket,

1807
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 1: which is Tremaine Edmonds, t Davious White, Lorenzo and Miga Hyde.

1808
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:01,679
Speaker 1: And then the process bracket, which is Sean McDermott, Brandon Bean,

1809
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 1: Me and Kyle Williams. How did I get in this?

1810
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: How'd you get kicked out of the alumni bracket? I don't.

1811
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty obvious. They don't like me. But

1812
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 1: so that's the brackett. So I made. I advanced one round,

1813
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 1: so I am like the I'm like the butler of

1814
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 1: the bracket. Right, I got were two seed? I was well,

1815
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 1: I was a two seed in that bracket. I was

1816
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 1: ahead of Brandon being as Sean McDermott, Kyle was the

1817
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 1: one seed which you could see that would you keep

1818
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 1: us posted on the steep? Now, I don't know how

1819
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 1: this will be the last time you hear about No, No,

1820
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm out after this around. Kyle's gonna crush me. Anybody

1821
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 1: who votes. I want to hear what the criteria is.

1822
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,639
Speaker 1: How do you determine that Steve would eat more? Because

1823
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: I would. I'm on there and I'm looking and it's like, okay,

1824
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 1: here we go each okay, each finalist is going to

1825
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 1: be given two full minutes to consume as many cook

1826
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 1: chicken wings as possible. There isn't actual wing involved. Well, wow,

1827
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 1: I didn't know about this. I'm gonna I'm gonna have

1828
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 1: come up with lame. If I pull a hamsdrink in training,

1829
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 1: I can get out of this. Right for a wing

1830
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 1: to be counted towards a competitor total, it's got to

1831
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 1: be ruled by the judge to be reasonably free available. Oh,

1832
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 1: the use of ten utensils is prohibited, Blue cheese will

1833
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 1: be provided, and water is going to be available. Can

1834
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 1: we use replay to judge some of the partially edible wings?

1835
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:16,759
Speaker 1: All replay is going to be handled from the booth.

1836
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 1: There you go, there'll be no sideline replace. More about

1837
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 1: the instant replay and real football when we return. More

1838
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:25,679
Speaker 1: about the stadium the pagol Let's talk about it yesterday

1839
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 1: at the owners meetings. All of that coming up an

1840
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 1: hour number three One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive

1841
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radiolo Bills Radio Network Stories

1842
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 1: update the update from One Bill's Drive. NFL news been

1843
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:52,639
Speaker 1: made out in Arizona last night. Pass interference is now

1844
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 1: reviewable by NFL Replay Instant Replay. The owners last night

1845
01:31:56,680 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 1: have proved a big philosophical expansion of the leaks Rey

1846
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 1: review system, bowing to pressure from coaches, primarily who were

1847
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 1: outraged by the mispass interference call in the NFC Championship

1848
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 1: game or at least the next season, pass interference both

1849
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 1: offensive and defenses will be reviewable first time, the penalties

1850
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 1: will be added to the list of approved reviews, and

1851
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 1: for the first time ever, also coaches will be able

1852
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 1: to challenge non calls for past interference. That's what was

1853
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:26,799
Speaker 1: passed last night by NFL owners. Over the last three seasons,

1854
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 1: the league found that past interference calls were the most

1855
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 1: impactful when it came to game situations and that led

1856
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 1: to charge to get the replay review added to pass

1857
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 1: interference calls. We've been talking about it all day here

1858
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 1: on the show Around the NFL wide receiver Jordy Nelson

1859
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 1: announced that he is retiring. Thirty three year old wide

1860
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,640
Speaker 1: receiver just released by the Oakland Raiders, retiring after a

1861
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 1: long run that began in two thousand and eight with

1862
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Last year sixty three catches, seven hundred thirty

1863
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:56,120
Speaker 1: nine yards. Looks like Damikan Sue is not going to

1864
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 1: return to the Los Angeles Rams. At the owner ands

1865
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 1: meeting yesterday, Rams M Less Sneed said that resigning the

1866
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 1: veteran defensive tackle is pretty much guaranteed to be off

1867
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,719
Speaker 1: the table. He played there one year for fourteen million dollars.

1868
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 1: Last year, five time Pro Bowl selection in Dominican. Sue

1869
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 1: not going back to the Rams. The Falcon said to

1870
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 1: me making progress and getting contract extensions for a wide

1871
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: receiver Julio Jones. He's coming off a season where he

1872
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 1: totaled one hundred thirteen catches and eight touchdowns. Also for

1873
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:27,679
Speaker 1: defensive tackle Grady Jarrett, who got the franchise designation back

1874
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,679
Speaker 1: on March fourth, Falcons have until July fifteenth to work

1875
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 1: out a long term deal, or Grady Jarrett and the

1876
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,639
Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers back home for a game tomorrow night against

1877
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 1: Detroit face off seven o'clock tomorrow. Sabers closed out their

1878
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 1: terrible three game road trip with a forty ninety loss

1879
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: to Ottawa last night. And that's the update from One

1880
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. John Murphy, Steve Tasker, who watched that game? Left?

1881
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 1: Did you watch all that game? Did you give up

1882
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 1: at all? Did you? Steve? He watched. I watched it.

1883
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 1: But you're asking two separate questions. One, yes, I did

1884
01:33:57,439 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 1: give up, but two I did not stop watching it. Okay,

1885
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 1: so you had something else to distract you, I hope.

1886
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean yeah, actually I did. There with

1887
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 1: your phone and look at Twitter. The grandkids were right there.

1888
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 1: You go, that's a great distraction they were. They said,

1889
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 1: they saved me from my darkest place that I was

1890
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 1: in it. He probably saved you from really worrying about

1891
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 1: the Savers, right, Yeah, I mean I was. Yeah, it's

1892
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,639
Speaker 1: tough to watch. It was tough to watch because it

1893
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:28,680
Speaker 1: was you know, when they fall behind, there's just not

1894
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:30,560
Speaker 1: much hope that they're going to climb back. Into it.

1895
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,640
Speaker 1: I got you. You know they do else. I was

1896
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: surprised last night the way it turned. I thought it'd

1897
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 1: be it would end up a game like that usually

1898
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 1: for this team ends up at least like four to two.

1899
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,639
Speaker 1: They didn't get any It was. It was rough last night.

1900
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 1: It was a really rough game. The check out our

1901
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: Twitter poll today. It's been our topic of discussion. We

1902
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 1: may be beating it to death. I'm sensitive to that.

1903
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,120
Speaker 1: Um and we'll talk about whatever you want to with.

1904
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:54,160
Speaker 1: The phone lines open at eight o three five fifty.

1905
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: But the Twitter poll, I find it interesting. So pass interference,

1906
01:34:56,920 --> 01:35:00,040
Speaker 1: including non calls for pass interference, now are allowed to

1907
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 1: be reviewed on replay, both challenge and inside the final

1908
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 1: two minutes? Do you like to change to review past interference?

1909
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 1: Our Twitter pole's interesting. I find it interesting. Fifty four

1910
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 1: percent of are almost one thousand respond and say yeah,

1911
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 1: you like it, forty six percent saying no, you don't

1912
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:16,759
Speaker 1: like it. I'm surprised that it sets close. Seve. I thought,

1913
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 1: especially on Twitter, and we've talked about this, how Twitter

1914
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 1: is sort of a you know, a younger audience, a

1915
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 1: millennial audience. They like the new stuff, they like to

1916
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 1: play on their phones, blah blah blah. I thought that

1917
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 1: more people would like to change in just fifty four percent,

1918
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 1: I'm surprised by that. I still were heartened by that,

1919
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, Yeah, I'm I get it.

1920
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 1: I think there's a particularly a town like Buffalo where

1921
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of fans who kind of know

1922
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 1: what the deal. You don't have too many casual fans.

1923
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 1: You got some. You got a bunch of die hards

1924
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 1: and the people who live with them, and so they

1925
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 1: knew and they know what they're talking about. And for us,

1926
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 1: you and me, we talk about this everyone. This is

1927
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 1: a big deal for us. I don't know if there's

1928
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 1: a lot of people out there are probably going guys

1929
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 1: to give it a rest. Yeah, we were gonna talk.

1930
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:00,600
Speaker 1: We were gonna talk about a little bit about the

1931
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 1: comments made by the ownership Kim and Terry yesterday about

1932
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 1: the stadium, and we're not even gonna get to that today.

1933
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 1: I can feel we're gonna get to it. You think

1934
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 1: we will, We're gonna tell me, all right, So we

1935
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 1: could we could push that off till tomorrow and just

1936
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 1: stayed with this because the stuff we just had on

1937
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 1: with a former vice President Officiating, Dean Blandina was on

1938
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:19,679
Speaker 1: with us a few minutes ago, and he's the same

1939
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 1: with us. He's a little bit up in arms on it.

1940
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of questions about how they're going

1941
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:25,720
Speaker 1: to implement this, what it's going to look like. And

1942
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:30,759
Speaker 1: also he brought up a good a good point about

1943
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 1: the guys who are actually going to be reviewing this.

1944
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 1: They've never had to do this before. It's brand new

1945
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:37,559
Speaker 1: to the guys up in the booth who are replay officials,

1946
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 1: some of whom have never put on a pair of

1947
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 1: pads and certainly have never worn stripes. All they've done

1948
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 1: has been this kind of executive guy looking at video.

1949
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 1: They've never had to even think about calling judgment calls.

1950
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 1: It's either it's either a thumbs up thumbs down. Yeah

1951
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 1: his foot was in, No, his foot was out. Now

1952
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 1: you got to go to work on what constitutes interference.

1953
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 1: Is the ball catchable? Where was the contact made? Is

1954
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 1: it really is it really a hold by the part

1955
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 1: of the defense, Maybe it's illegal contact and not pass interference?

1956
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 1: Was the ball in the air when the player was

1957
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:15,719
Speaker 1: interfered with? These guys, as Steve points out, have never

1958
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 1: been called upon to make these sort of considerations, to

1959
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 1: have these sort of considerations, They're gonna have to do

1960
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 1: that now from the replay booth, and especially in the

1961
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 1: final two minutes when the guy on site we're talking about,

1962
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 1: not the guys in New York they make the call.

1963
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,640
Speaker 1: Don't be confused. The guys in New York will make

1964
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 1: the determination interference or not. But the guys on site

1965
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 1: within the final two minutes of each half, they're the

1966
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: ones who have to make the call quickly before the

1967
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 1: next play as to whether there possibly could be something

1968
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 1: missed there. That's a lot to ask that and they

1969
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 1: got to get ready to do it on a part

1970
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 1: time basis. Yeah, and they're part time employees. They are

1971
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:51,680
Speaker 1: part time employees. Just another thing wrong with this. Yeah.

1972
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,679
Speaker 1: And as Dean Blandino said as well, and we heard

1973
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 1: this was all done, listen, I've once I was in

1974
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 1: the room and they were starting to talk about how

1975
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 1: they were gonna fix kickoff last year. So I have

1976
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 1: heard the conversation surrounding decisions similar to this. Maybe not

1977
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:12,600
Speaker 1: this specific rule, but they have. There's previous conversations that

1978
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,879
Speaker 1: they refer to, previous years that they refer to. Steps

1979
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 1: in the evolution to get to this point, there's all

1980
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:23,759
Speaker 1: kinds of unintended consequence conversations about it. There's conversations about

1981
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 1: the language, what it's going to look like, exactly what

1982
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 1: it's going to say in the rule books so they'll

1983
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 1: know how to interpret it. How the officials feel about it,

1984
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 1: what are they gonna do, what's it mean to them,

1985
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 1: how are they going to feel about it on the field,

1986
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 1: what's it going to mean for their alignment, for their

1987
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 1: such All these conversations take place all the time leading

1988
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 1: up to this decision. Then we find out this decision,

1989
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,120
Speaker 1: the one that is so fundamentally different than the ones

1990
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 1: they may ever made before, happened in the spur of

1991
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:49,800
Speaker 1: the moment. Yeah, they did it on the fly and said,

1992
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 1: you know what, let's do it. We do It's like

1993
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:56,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it'll go. Let's just do it. Let's

1994
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:58,720
Speaker 1: do it. It'll work, It'll work, it'll work. Dean made

1995
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 1: a good point, And I asked the question, and as

1996
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:03,639
Speaker 1: I think back on it probably was an ignorant question.

1997
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:06,280
Speaker 1: What do the officials think? You know what? Nothing really

1998
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:08,879
Speaker 1: changes for the on field officials. They'll call pass interference

1999
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 1: when they see it. They won't. When they don't, nothing

2000
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,760
Speaker 1: changes for them, right, Yeah, they're fine, they're fine. They

2001
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 1: don't even think anything. It's the guys in the replay

2002
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 1: booth on site each stadium who will in the final

2003
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 1: two minutes of each I have to make the determination

2004
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 1: should this be reviewed? And then of course the guys

2005
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 1: in New York who have to actually make the call.

2006
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 1: The guys on field have nothing to do even thought

2007
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 1: about that. That's kind of comforting to me, that was.

2008
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 1: But the guys that are actually doing it anyway are

2009
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:34,800
Speaker 1: gonna be. They're like, nothing's changed for them. I'm just

2010
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 1: gonna call. I'm gonna do my thing on the field

2011
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, on the field, that's kind of good.

2012
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 1: That's actually very good. And it's the only thing that

2013
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 1: it changes for head coaches they have, right, head coaches

2014
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 1: and the and the review and the review guy in

2015
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 1: the booth and it's okay, And that's just it's all judgment. Yeah,

2016
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 1: it's all judgment. And that's the door that's been open.

2017
01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 1: We don't want to get hung up on this. A

2018
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 1: couple more calls on this. John in Rochester, go ahead, John,

2019
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 1: you're on the air with us. Yes, I'd like to

2020
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 1: offer a little defensive pushback on this ahead. I think

2021
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:13,760
Speaker 1: this is uh, this is all uh, this is all

2022
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 1: leaning towards the offense. And my question is is the

2023
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 1: defense going to have the ability to challenge an interference

2024
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:26,560
Speaker 1: call that in fact there was no interference on the

2025
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 1: on a ball that was caught. I would say yes, yeah, yeah.

2026
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 1: And number two, um yeah, and the defense uh ken

2027
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 1: also right, uh challenge offensive pass interference. Hey, this guy

2028
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 1: pushed off this cornerback in order to get open. They

2029
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 1: can make that challenge too. That Those are my questions,

2030
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:53,240
Speaker 1: and I think you got to give a little bit more, yeah,

2031
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 1: a little bit more room for the defense on this

2032
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 1: side of a h of these changes. Yeah, and I

2033
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 1: think they will. I think now that you. I think

2034
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 1: Murph said it and during the break a couple of

2035
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 1: breaks ago, he said, you know, maybe because we all

2036
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:11,680
Speaker 1: see it. Defensive pass interference is called a lot offensive

2037
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 1: pass interference like never, and I think there's no question

2038
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:18,760
Speaker 1: that offensive guys have gotten away with it for a

2039
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 1: long time. I think now maybe we'll see that pendulum

2040
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:26,560
Speaker 1: swing back the other way. This may have unintended consequences

2041
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:29,559
Speaker 1: of now it's a coin flip, it's it's fifty fifty.

2042
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 1: There's also offensive pass interference as well as as often

2043
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 1: as there is defensive pass interference. That may not be

2044
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 1: a bad thing until we see it in action, and

2045
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 1: we may all think it stinks, you know, because they

2046
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 1: can't complete a pass. They said, Odell Beckham Junior can't

2047
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:48,600
Speaker 1: get open anymore, right, I mean you're serious. I'm just

2048
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 1: kind of joking, but you know what I mean, sure, yeah,

2049
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 1: it might take points off the board, right because we've all,

2050
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 1: as I've said, I said this last hour, I think

2051
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 1: come around to the point where it's like, oh, look

2052
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 1: how we create separation. Look how he created some separation.

2053
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 1: He does that pushed off. If he pushes it off

2054
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 1: and gets away with it, and we salute that, we

2055
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 1: encourage that, we pat him on the back, nice job

2056
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 1: creating something. And I'm not saying anything about Odell Beckham Junior.

2057
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm just as an example, some receiver, all of a sudden,

2058
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 1: he may lead the league in offensive pass interference where

2059
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 1: he's never had one before in his career. You know

2060
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 1: that kind of thing where all of a sudden, teams

2061
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 1: know it and they start calling him on it, and

2062
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,639
Speaker 1: in crucial parts of the game, a couple more calls

2063
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 1: on this Tom on the West side. Hello, Tom, you're

2064
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 1: on the air. Good afternoon, guys, They steve. You look

2065
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 1: like you're ready for a few rounds of length after

2066
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:37,160
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, I wish and you start playing. What

2067
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 1: are you waiting for? What's what's the temperature that we'll

2068
01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:42,559
Speaker 1: get you out on the course? Mid fifties? Yeah, okay

2069
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 1: and sunny, sunny and dry. Is the course playable yet?

2070
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 1: I don't think the pins are in Okay, Thanks, thanks

2071
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,160
Speaker 1: for checking up on that. Time. Go ahead, another point?

2072
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:55,679
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Yeah, anyway. I think the reason the votes

2073
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 1: going the way it is, there's been so many bad

2074
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 1: calls against Buffalo, but those are the ones voting in

2075
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 1: favor of it. Ones voting against it are the ones

2076
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 1: that don't want to see any change. And what it

2077
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 1: segues back to is you need the referee change where

2078
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 1: they need to be professionals, to be full time, and

2079
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:21,599
Speaker 1: they need to that's got to be their four take. Yeah, Yeah, Tom,

2080
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 1: I think you're right. We've kind of circled back. You're right,

2081
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:25,560
Speaker 1: that's the right term. We've circled back to that a

2082
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 1: couple of times today. The one I would rather see

2083
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 1: him spend the money and effort on full time officials

2084
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 1: to a greater extent than they have. I mean they

2085
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 1: started doing it a year or two ago where they

2086
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:38,679
Speaker 1: brought in fifteen guys or twenty guys on full time.

2087
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 1: Maybe not quite that many, but I would like to

2088
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:43,759
Speaker 1: see him expand that. Put these guys on, give them film,

2089
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:47,720
Speaker 1: give them, you know, give them training, give them offseason

2090
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 1: programs to get more consistent across the board. I'm with

2091
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 1: you totally. I think this all points to making them

2092
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 1: more consistent from one crew to the next, one game

2093
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 1: to the next, one quarter to the next, one play

2094
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 1: to the next. And I think you know, and I

2095
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 1: said it earlier in the show, consistency is what coaches

2096
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 1: and players crave from officiating. They don't care what the

2097
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 1: rules are, just call them consistently from one play to

2098
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:14,519
Speaker 1: the next, one game to the next, one week to

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01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:16,800
Speaker 1: the next. Just look it up. Two years ago, the

2100
01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:19,479
Speaker 1: NFL hired twenty one full time officials, so I'd assume

2101
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 1: it's about that number still, twenty one out of hundreds.

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01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 1: So one more call Jim and Rochester. Hello Jim, you're

2103
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 1: on the air. Hello, guys, kind of pulling my hair

2104
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 1: out with this thing. The two minute thing is gonna

2105
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:37,559
Speaker 1: they're gonna slow it down to two frames a minute

2106
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 1: and show him grabbing his arm, and it's gonna be ridiculous.

2107
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:46,599
Speaker 1: But what I do not understand is why this call

2108
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 1: when you get a defensive passing or thirty passing interference penaltly,

2109
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 1: it's four times the yardage of a regular say holding

2110
01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 1: call or right. Why not just go to the call

2111
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:03,599
Speaker 1: a rule of fifteen yards unless it's egregious, then give

2112
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 1: them a spot fowl. The whole problem is it's a

2113
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 1: spot foul. Just go to fifty run of summage and

2114
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 1: you don't got to do all this crap. Well, yeah,

2115
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:12,920
Speaker 1: you're right. I mean that's and that's one way to

2116
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 1: look at it. Just make it less of a game

2117
01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:20,640
Speaker 1: changing penalty. But I think if the rule, if the

2118
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 1: if the league did that, it might be better. It

2119
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 1: might be less of a big change, there's absolutely no

2120
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:29,639
Speaker 1: question about it. But it would also it wouldn't take

2121
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 1: away the effect of the call being wrong or right

2122
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 1: or wrong. And the problem has been that those play

2123
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 1: those plays account for seventy percent of the penalties that

2124
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 1: change the or effect the outcome of the game. Now

2125
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 1: it may have less of an effect on the outcome

2126
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 1: of the game if it's only a fifteen yard penalty

2127
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 1: rather than a spot foul, But nevertheless, it's still wrong,

2128
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:59,000
Speaker 1: and they would and they'd get crushed if they did it,

2129
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 1: just if they just said, we're gonna make it less wrong. Yeah,

2130
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:07,520
Speaker 1: I mean right, what would be the penalty for deliberately

2131
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:11,480
Speaker 1: interfering on a pass as a defender that's forty yards downfield?

2132
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go and drow this guy and

2133
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 1: break this up, and I'll take the fifteen yards because

2134
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 1: he was gonna get he was gonna get forty yards. Now,

2135
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 1: the caller, Jim just said, unless it's egregious, that's that's

2136
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 1: where it falls, right, And we'll still not judgement to

2137
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 1: get egregious. It's a judgment thing again. So I don't

2138
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 1: know that I see your point, but I don't your

2139
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 1: solution I don't think would work, and I can't think

2140
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 1: of a solution that would make it work. Hey, can

2141
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 1: can we move on to stadium for a couple of minutes?

2142
01:46:38,920 --> 01:46:41,280
Speaker 1: You okay with it? Yeah? You don't want to push

2143
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 1: it off till tomorrow. We have a whole day tomorrow. Yeah,

2144
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 1: but the sound will be old time all right, Okay,

2145
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:46,839
Speaker 1: go ahead, let's do it the sound of the comments

2146
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,479
Speaker 1: from less night. Here's the thing too. Look, I think,

2147
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 1: and I think Steve agrees. I just I don't want

2148
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 1: to wrap this up totally. We'll take more calls on

2149
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 1: past interference. I do think this is a major change.

2150
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:03,760
Speaker 1: Blandino said it great comments from our buddy. I hope

2151
01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 1: we get around the air this week. Judy Batista, who

2152
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 1: said it's, uh, this is a major change. I'm trying

2153
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:13,760
Speaker 1: to um. She says, it's it's it's it's a philosophical

2154
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:16,599
Speaker 1: change in the way officiating is conducted in the NFL,

2155
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,920
Speaker 1: and happened last night. So this is my way of saying, defensively,

2156
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 1: I do think this is important to talk about. It's

2157
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 1: a big for us guys who are who are always

2158
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 1: necked deep in the NFL. This is, uh, it's big

2159
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:30,960
Speaker 1: to us. Yeah, I got it. And most people are like,

2160
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 1: all right, let me, I'll catch me in the fall.

2161
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 1: I'll see what I think about it. You know what

2162
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean? And I get that too. But for guys

2163
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 1: like Murph and I who've got a fill three hours

2164
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:43,439
Speaker 1: every day, yeah, we're like we're like gold. Yeah, this

2165
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:45,760
Speaker 1: is gold. We got to talk about it. It's big.

2166
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 1: So there you got anyway, and that's not and we'll

2167
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 1: talk more about it. But this we got to talk

2168
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 1: about too. This is important. Although nothing really came out

2169
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 1: of the uh, Terry and Kimpagoula made comments last night

2170
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 1: after the NFL owners meetings broke up in Phoenix, Arizona,

2171
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:01,600
Speaker 1: and as far as the Bills were concerned, what do

2172
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:03,200
Speaker 1: they say? They said a lot about all the good

2173
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 1: work done in the last couple of weeks by Brandon

2174
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 1: Bean and Sean McDermot, how encouraged they are about Josh Allen, etc.

2175
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 1: Et cetera. All good. They did talk about the stadium though,

2176
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 1: and talked about the ongoing survey by c aa Icon

2177
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:18,880
Speaker 1: and Populace. As they survey shareholders, they call them Bill's

2178
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 1: ticket buyers, season ticketholders, sponsors, everybody involved in the Buffalo Bills.

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01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 1: As far as what's next for the stadium, Kim Pagoula,

2180
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 1: Bill's team President, Bill's owner, talked about it. She says

2181
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 1: it's important to know that nothing has been decided yet,

2182
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 1: and she said the survey is still ongoing. Here's what

2183
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:42,960
Speaker 1: she said. Last night. It's a private survey or i'm sorry, assessment,

2184
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 1: a feasibility study that we have gotten CIA and Icon

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01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 1: to engage in. They started, we announced it in November,

2186
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 1: but they really haven't gotten started until probably the beginning

2187
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 1: of the year. We've had tremendous, tremendous response. Over thirty

2188
01:48:57,240 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 1: thousand people from both from both the hockey and the

2189
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 1: football side have both really come out, how to say,

2190
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 1: in what they were looking they were looking for, as

2191
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,160
Speaker 1: well as our corporate partners. So we've been talking, We've

2192
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:15,480
Speaker 1: been doing focus groups, we've been talking to our corporate sponsors,

2193
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:17,840
Speaker 1: and then of course talking to the fans. And so

2194
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:20,680
Speaker 1: that study is still in its early phases. I mean

2195
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:23,800
Speaker 1: it like it's gonna it's gonna take a while. And

2196
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 1: like I said, this is just our own study, and

2197
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's gonna be others um and there's gonna

2198
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:32,759
Speaker 1: be more hands in that jar trying to um work

2199
01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 1: on a plan. So this is really you know, I'm

2200
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing what they have, but um, we

2201
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 1: are at least taking those steps early on as early

2202
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:42,920
Speaker 1: as they are, so, but we are taking those steps.

2203
01:49:43,080 --> 01:49:45,640
Speaker 1: They're doing fact finding that makes sense, right and Terry

2204
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:48,640
Speaker 1: Pergola said later that the initial report from a c

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01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 1: AA icon Populace might be expected sometime in midsummer, later

2206
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:56,160
Speaker 1: this summer. Take your time, right, there's no there's no

2207
01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 1: reason to rush through telling you see what people want

2208
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:03,519
Speaker 1: from today. I'm a decade before we sit snuggle down

2209
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 1: in our seats in any kind of new stadium. If,

2210
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:09,000
Speaker 1: if indeed there is a new stadium or a renovated

2211
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:12,599
Speaker 1: one here, maybe well renovation that could happen in less

2212
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:15,560
Speaker 1: than five years for sure, But I think that's a

2213
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:21,519
Speaker 1: decade away. Man. We'll see. I mean, I've seen things.

2214
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 1: I've seen things happen here in Buffalo. It doesn't like

2215
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 1: happen overnight in our city, in our fair city. I see,

2216
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 1: you're a naysayer. You're not a naysayer. I'm just a pragmatist.

2217
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:35,599
Speaker 1: This takes time in other cities too. Minnesota's talking about

2218
01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,640
Speaker 1: their new city at Super Bowl twenty five. They just

2219
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 1: lost their team. They just moved in. Yeah yeah, um.

2220
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:47,439
Speaker 1: Terry Bagoula talking about it yesterday too, the other owner

2221
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo sabers in the Buffalo Bills, and he

2222
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:52,640
Speaker 1: was asked, is everything still on the table as far

2223
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:55,680
Speaker 1: as location, dome not dome. Where are you? Where are

2224
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 1: you thinking? Here's what Terry Bagoula said last night. We're

2225
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 1: waiting for our study to come out and see what

2226
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:06,360
Speaker 1: what all they tell us what our market can can support,

2227
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:08,840
Speaker 1: So it would be everything, so any anything could happen.

2228
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 1: And as far as that's concerned, I don't know. If

2229
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:16,200
Speaker 1: we build a stadium, do you want to dome on it? People?

2230
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 1: I know Miami, I know, I know Steve Ross doesn't,

2231
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:25,680
Speaker 1: but he's told me that No, No, don't know. I

2232
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:28,680
Speaker 1: you know. I We'll see what the study says. You know,

2233
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:34,559
Speaker 1: it's it's all about what we think our fans want,

2234
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 1: what they prefer. If if the study shows that the

2235
01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:41,920
Speaker 1: that the marketplace just doesn't you know, at the end

2236
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 1: of the day, doesn't want to pay for it, I

2237
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 1: think it would be the issue. Everybody wants the new thing,

2238
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:48,000
Speaker 1: but paid for it is two separate things. Can you

2239
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:53,560
Speaker 1: live with a you know, renovated or just an improved

2240
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 1: existing stadium? That jam connect connect again, Let's see what

2241
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 1: Let's wait this summer and see what kind of results

2242
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 1: we get out of what the experts are telling us

2243
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 1: our market. Is the league given you any comments? Or

2244
01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:12,680
Speaker 1: direction or push the time frame or anything. No, no

2245
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 1: care's what the league says. By the way, you know

2246
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 1: what I mean, the stuff about the league wants Buffalo

2247
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:20,640
Speaker 1: to build a new stadium, go ahead, they take our

2248
01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 1: team away. Yeah, they might listen, they just wanted I

2249
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:26,720
Speaker 1: think the league more than anything, just wants to be

2250
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:30,639
Speaker 1: kept up to date as as if they can. They don't.

2251
01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:32,479
Speaker 1: They're not going to come in here day. You have

2252
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 1: to build a new stadium. They know better. What do

2253
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:37,680
Speaker 1: they know better? They kind of put the heat on

2254
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:39,080
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. What do you mean, what

2255
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 1: do they know a better heat on what? They put

2256
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 1: the heat on Buffalo to build a new stadium or

2257
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:45,200
Speaker 1: make a decision on what you're gonna do with your stadium.

2258
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:46,960
Speaker 1: I think they do put the heat on Buffalo to

2259
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 1: do that. They've done that before. I mean, what if

2260
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 1: nothing's changed. I know That's what I just said. They

2261
01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:54,479
Speaker 1: do put the heat on him, and I bet they

2262
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:56,639
Speaker 1: are now. But the one thing Terry, did he rule

2263
01:52:56,680 --> 01:53:00,040
Speaker 1: out a dome. No, he just said he likes the

2264
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:03,160
Speaker 1: open air stadium. And I think you know there's always

2265
01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:05,559
Speaker 1: that that continuing out there that wants an open air

2266
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 1: And then there's people to say, what are you crazy,

2267
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:08,960
Speaker 1: Let's put a dome on it and be comfortable while

2268
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 1: we watched the game. Um, I'm neither here nor there.

2269
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 1: I think if there's going to be a new stadium,

2270
01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:17,400
Speaker 1: believe me, you're gonna like it. It's gonna be great.

2271
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 1: And every I've seen, well, let's face it, I've seen

2272
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 1: almost every every stadium in the National Football League. I've

2273
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 1: seen both before and the after. I mean, the oldest

2274
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 1: stadium in the one here is probably the oldest stadium

2275
01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:34,959
Speaker 1: in the in the in the league except for Oakland Alameda.

2276
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:37,719
Speaker 1: How do you account Soldier Field at it? Well, Soldier

2277
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 1: Fields brand new, it's like fifteen years old. It's the new.

2278
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:43,639
Speaker 1: It's they've just built a new stadium inside the old.

2279
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,600
Speaker 1: So every one of these stadiums is nicer than the

2280
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,599
Speaker 1: last one. Here's the five oldest stadiums in the NFL.

2281
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 1: LA Memorial Coliseum, which is in the process of being replaced.

2282
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 1: Soldier Field is listed number two. Lambeau Field also extensively renovated,

2283
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:01,559
Speaker 1: List number three. Oko Collis in Oakland as listened number four.

2284
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:03,840
Speaker 1: And then we've got Qualcom, which is not in the

2285
01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:08,640
Speaker 1: NFL anymore. Let me make sure that it's still These

2286
01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:11,679
Speaker 1: are five year olds. Yeah yeah, Oakland Alameda. Yeah, they're

2287
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 1: gonna play there this year. That's older that Calisium. Um yeah,

2288
01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 1: I mean that's been renovated and they're not gonna play

2289
01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 1: they're trying to replace that. They are replacing. They're gonna

2290
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:28,240
Speaker 1: move in there in two years. So. UM, my point was,

2291
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:32,520
Speaker 1: whatever they build here, if they build a new stadium,

2292
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:36,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be awesome. Uh. Don't

2293
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 1: think you're not gonna like it, because you will. But

2294
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:42,560
Speaker 1: here's my one of the concerns I have. It's it's

2295
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 1: become particularly the last ten or fifteen Well, what am

2296
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 1: I saying since its inception that the atmosphere outside this

2297
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 1: building on game day is unparalleled? Uh, it is traditional,

2298
01:54:56,520 --> 01:55:01,280
Speaker 1: it is historic, It's part of the fabric of the game,

2299
01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 1: is part of the fabric of the community. It's what

2300
01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 1: people look forward to. It's become part of a game

2301
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:10,040
Speaker 1: day experience here. You can say there has been roller coasters,

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01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 1: that's been bad instances and people you know, laugh at bills,

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01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 1: fans jumping through tables. You can do. But there's a lot,

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01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 1: there's thousands upon thousands of people who make the outdoor

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01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:27,160
Speaker 1: experience outside the stadium on game day part of their heritage,

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01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:29,560
Speaker 1: part of their family heritage, part of their fanship, it's

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01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:32,080
Speaker 1: part of the it's part of the fabric of Western

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01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:36,680
Speaker 1: New York. And I would be sad to see maybe

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01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:39,840
Speaker 1: if you go, if you put the stadium downtown, that

2310
01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 1: might change drastically. I think it'd be kind of sad,

2311
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:47,720
Speaker 1: kind of sad. Not that the stadium wouldn't be great,

2312
01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:52,200
Speaker 1: but there's a lot about Orchard Park that has become important.

2313
01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 1: You know what. The best thing about this is right now.

2314
01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:57,440
Speaker 1: And I don't know how it'll end up, the fact

2315
01:55:57,520 --> 01:56:01,120
Speaker 1: that there's an ongoing dialogue of professionals, survey study, focus

2316
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:03,560
Speaker 1: groups going on, and that we're not being held under

2317
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:05,960
Speaker 1: the gun. Yeah, I was here. I was a little

2318
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 1: kid in nineteen sixty seven and mister Wilson would stand

2319
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:12,200
Speaker 1: up at the Erie County Legislature and start talking about Seattle.

2320
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,280
Speaker 1: You know they're out there, and you get panicky, right,

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01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you'll worry about that same thing in nineteen

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01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 1: ninety seven, ninety eight, when again mister Wilson was you know,

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01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:24,440
Speaker 1: they needed renovations here in Orchard Park. I get it,

2324
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:26,720
Speaker 1: but the threat of the team moving was always there.

2325
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:29,400
Speaker 1: That thread is gone. So instead of like a fevered,

2326
01:56:30,040 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 1: overheated discussion about what type of state team you need,

2327
01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 1: where do you want to put it, how are you

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01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:37,040
Speaker 1: going to pay for it, who's going to pay for it?

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01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:39,560
Speaker 1: And how soon do we got to get it done? Now,

2330
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:41,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of a logical, step by step process. I

2331
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 1: love that, and I credit the Bagoulas for that right

2332
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:47,160
Speaker 1: by ensuring that the team will remain here forever, they've

2333
01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 1: said that over and over and over again. They made

2334
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:53,640
Speaker 1: it into a logical, progressive discussion about what we want,

2335
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:56,640
Speaker 1: what we need, what a fans need, what a sponsors need,

2336
01:56:56,720 --> 01:56:59,720
Speaker 1: what do stakeholders need? Instead, and we don't have the

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01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:02,880
Speaker 1: threat of a team moving to in the background to

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01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:05,240
Speaker 1: make how much make bad decisions? And how much revenue

2339
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:07,880
Speaker 1: would the new stadium generate to pay for it? And

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01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 1: how you know, how much would it cost? Where a site?

2341
01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:13,640
Speaker 1: Where would the site be the best place for it

2342
01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:16,440
Speaker 1: to be in Buffalo? Or where would or if it's

2343
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:18,200
Speaker 1: not better in Buffalo, is it going to be better

2344
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:20,240
Speaker 1: at Orchard Park? You know, are they going to put

2345
01:57:20,280 --> 01:57:22,960
Speaker 1: it up on you know, next to this one, and

2346
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 1: just like they did in Meadowlands in uh In with

2347
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:29,120
Speaker 1: the Giants and the Jets, they just they just built

2348
01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 1: a new stadium right next to the old one and

2349
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:32,400
Speaker 1: then and that's They did the same thing in Mile

2350
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:35,440
Speaker 1: High Mile High Stadium in Denver. They built the new

2351
01:57:35,480 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 1: one right next to the old one and then tore

2352
01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 1: the old one down. Now it's a parking lot. So

2353
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 1: there's all kinds that you know, you can do that

2354
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:42,880
Speaker 1: as well. Same thing in Atlanta they built the new

2355
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:45,760
Speaker 1: one right next to the old one. Um so um.

2356
01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:50,839
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see what this study tells

2357
01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:55,640
Speaker 1: um Our City about our team. And I love the

2358
01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 1: fact that it's being done without I guess they said

2359
01:57:57,760 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 1: the threat of a yeah, without a deadline, Yeah, without

2360
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 1: a without this big shadow or this oh yeah yeah,

2361
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:05,400
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. Yeah, without the threat

2362
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:07,080
Speaker 1: of the team moving. That's not even in the picture.

2363
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:08,640
Speaker 1: That's great, That is awesome. All right, We're gonna talk

2364
01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 1: about a few more things when we come back here.

2365
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Speaker 1: Welcome to join us. Phone lines open eight three five

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Speaker 1: fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

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01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:17,400
Speaker 1: two five fifty one. Bill's Live presented by A lot

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01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:20,400
Speaker 1: of health from one Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:39,400
Speaker 1: Thank you, welcome back to the show, John Murphy's Teave Tasker, Am,

2370
01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:43,280
Speaker 1: I'm am I on Mike, Yes, thank you, welcome back

2371
01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:45,280
Speaker 1: to the show. We're here for another twenty four minutes

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01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 1: or so, John Murphy, Steve Tasker, And look, we've covered

2373
01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:49,920
Speaker 1: a lot of territory today. Stadiums the last segment or

2374
01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:54,000
Speaker 1: two uh stadium in the Bagoulas, comments last night in Arizona,

2375
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 1: and of course the replay review for past interference. You

2376
01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 1: might have thought, signed, you might be tired of hearing

2377
01:58:59,360 --> 01:59:01,200
Speaker 1: my thoughts and Steve's thoughts on this, So give us

2378
01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:03,480
Speaker 1: a call eight three five. And I understand if you are.

2379
01:59:03,960 --> 01:59:05,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes I get tired of hearing myself. No, do you

2380
01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:13,040
Speaker 1: ever me? Why would I just firm I added it right?

2381
01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:16,680
Speaker 1: I had to say, come on, I gotta if you're

2382
01:59:16,680 --> 01:59:18,320
Speaker 1: gonna tee it up, I'm hitting it out. Did you

2383
01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 1: speaking of hearing Antonio Brown Oakland Raider's wide receiver traded.

2384
01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:25,040
Speaker 1: So let's go back a couple of fridays. The Bills

2385
01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:27,440
Speaker 1: will wake up Friday morning. I think it was Friday,

2386
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:31,720
Speaker 1: March eighth. First I don't know, and it was it

2387
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:33,960
Speaker 1: was actually that's when you woke up. But it started

2388
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:37,720
Speaker 1: happening after the Sabers game that night, and it started

2389
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:39,240
Speaker 1: popping on and it was, I want to say it

2390
01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:41,760
Speaker 1: was seventh and eighty. It was like a done deal,

2391
01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:45,040
Speaker 1: done deal. That's what they said, right, Antonio Brown was

2392
01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:47,600
Speaker 1: gonna go be a Buffalo Bill. And then the next

2393
01:59:47,680 --> 01:59:49,959
Speaker 1: day it turned out that the report was that Antonio

2394
01:59:50,040 --> 01:59:53,640
Speaker 1: Brown killed the deal, killed the deal himself. Steve and

2395
01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:55,520
Speaker 1: I come on the air and say, not quite, and

2396
01:59:55,640 --> 01:59:57,680
Speaker 1: we did a little work on this, talk to some people.

2397
01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:02,160
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown revives it was the comments he released. Why

2398
02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:06,040
Speaker 1: released the recording of a telephone conversation they had with

2399
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:08,720
Speaker 1: his agent, Drew Rosenhouse right about that time that week.

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02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:13,040
Speaker 1: Let's listen to what was said there. We will, man,

2401
02:00:13,160 --> 02:00:15,200
Speaker 1: we will make the best decision, you know, like with

2402
02:00:15,320 --> 02:00:19,760
Speaker 1: the Bills craw Meat today we made the treat. What

2403
02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:21,600
Speaker 1: are you guys looking for? And I wanted to give

2404
02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:25,280
Speaker 1: him a number because I know you'd rather not go there.

2405
02:00:25,840 --> 02:00:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah you know yet you know so Antonio Brown says, yeah,

2406
02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:34,480
Speaker 1: I don't even what he saying. Don't even waste time.

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02:00:35,160 --> 02:00:37,360
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, kill the deal. That's the important he

2408
02:00:37,440 --> 02:00:39,720
Speaker 1: had told It was obvious from that. The other voice

2409
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:42,720
Speaker 1: in that was Drew Rosenhouse, his agent, and Drew said, listen,

2410
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:45,120
Speaker 1: the Bills called us, and I would not even tell

2411
02:00:45,200 --> 02:00:47,720
Speaker 1: them what the number was because I know you didn't

2412
02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:49,000
Speaker 1: want that's one of the teams you didn't want to

2413
02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:52,880
Speaker 1: play for. UM And there were and in that conversation

2414
02:00:53,320 --> 02:00:56,280
Speaker 1: it sounded like we weren't the only ones UM so

2415
02:00:56,760 --> 02:00:59,320
Speaker 1: they had already had and you would expect a player

2416
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:02,160
Speaker 1: like Antonio they'd had a conversations about where he wanted

2417
02:01:02,200 --> 02:01:05,360
Speaker 1: to play, and it was a less than a handful

2418
02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:08,240
Speaker 1: of teams, but at Oakland being one of them and

2419
02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:11,040
Speaker 1: San Francisco being one of them. One of those teams.

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02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:15,120
Speaker 1: But that deal never that deal didn't get that far

2421
02:01:15,200 --> 02:01:17,520
Speaker 1: down the road. Yeah, And it was never down the road. Yeah.

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02:01:17,560 --> 02:01:19,520
Speaker 1: And that's the point we made that Friday. But whatever,

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02:01:19,960 --> 02:01:22,840
Speaker 1: the Bills have been dogged by that report for a

2424
02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:26,160
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and the perception that Antonio Brown nixed

2425
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:28,800
Speaker 1: the deal killed the deal. Sean McDermot was asked about

2426
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:31,400
Speaker 1: it yesterday when he spoke at the NFL meetings in Arizona,

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02:01:31,440 --> 02:01:36,440
Speaker 1: and here's what he said about that perception of reality

2428
02:01:36,560 --> 02:01:40,240
Speaker 1: not always the same. Right, spend a day, spend a

2429
02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:42,560
Speaker 1: week in Buffalo, get around the people, get around the city,

2430
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:46,000
Speaker 1: get around the energy in our city. And people that

2431
02:01:46,240 --> 02:01:48,960
Speaker 1: say that, my opinion, haven't spent that time and really

2432
02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:51,480
Speaker 1: maybe don't want to spend that time. So to me,

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02:01:51,640 --> 02:01:54,840
Speaker 1: that's on them. Right In the time that I've been

2434
02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:57,880
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, my family's been in Buffalo. I mean, I

2435
02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:00,760
Speaker 1: didn't realize how important fit was when I was going

2436
02:02:00,840 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 1: through the interview process with the different teams to become

2437
02:02:03,040 --> 02:02:06,120
Speaker 1: a head coach. I am very grateful to have ended up.

2438
02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:08,360
Speaker 1: And this is gonna be said of all thirty two

2439
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:10,640
Speaker 1: teams in Buffalo with the Bills because of the fit

2440
02:02:11,320 --> 02:02:14,680
Speaker 1: and because of the people, and because of the tradition.

2441
02:02:15,600 --> 02:02:18,280
Speaker 1: So what more could you ask for from a city

2442
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:22,120
Speaker 1: that football? Football to me is important to the city

2443
02:02:22,160 --> 02:02:24,680
Speaker 1: of Buffalo. That's not the case in every city. So

2444
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:28,240
Speaker 1: people want to pump palm trees and this and that

2445
02:02:28,520 --> 02:02:30,760
Speaker 1: and weather and this and that. Come to Buffalo where

2446
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:34,040
Speaker 1: football is important to the people. Good for Sean McDermott.

2447
02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:37,040
Speaker 1: He got it exactly right, Steve. I'm glad Antonio Brown's

2448
02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:39,080
Speaker 1: not here. I'm glad he didn't want to play here.

2449
02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad that deal never got that far down the

2450
02:02:41,200 --> 02:02:43,160
Speaker 1: road that they even came close to him having the

2451
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:45,480
Speaker 1: veto power over that deal. And I'm really glad to

2452
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:47,920
Speaker 1: hear Sean McDermott say, if you want to play a

2453
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:50,960
Speaker 1: place where football is important, come to Buffalo. Buffalo. People

2454
02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:53,320
Speaker 1: have heard it before, guys who came here and you

2455
02:02:53,440 --> 02:02:55,480
Speaker 1: had it even when this came out about Antonio Brown,

2456
02:02:55,560 --> 02:03:00,360
Speaker 1: other players around them, like London Fletcher to Kiopo's all

2457
02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:02,800
Speaker 1: these guys who had been here, Sean Merriman, who was

2458
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:04,920
Speaker 1: only here for a minute. And I'll tell you this.

2459
02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:07,560
Speaker 1: I've had a guy who was a former head coach

2460
02:03:07,640 --> 02:03:09,600
Speaker 1: for a couple of different teams in the NFL talk

2461
02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:11,920
Speaker 1: to me too. He was a former assistant coach here

2462
02:03:12,240 --> 02:03:15,240
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. And the perception, what the perception is and

2463
02:03:15,320 --> 02:03:17,360
Speaker 1: what the reality is. And he says, listen, the perception

2464
02:03:17,480 --> 02:03:20,840
Speaker 1: was this. My wife cried twice when we found out

2465
02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:22,840
Speaker 1: we were coming to Buffalo. She cried when we found

2466
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:25,040
Speaker 1: out we were coming to Buffalo because she thought Buffalo

2467
02:03:25,120 --> 02:03:27,880
Speaker 1: like everybody like Antonio Brown thought. And she cried a

2468
02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:31,880
Speaker 1: second time when we left because she loved it. That's

2469
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 1: what people find when they when they come here. The

2470
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:36,920
Speaker 1: perception is completely different than the reality. This is a

2471
02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:39,080
Speaker 1: town that is and you know, obviously you and I

2472
02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:42,040
Speaker 1: are are you know, lifers here, But I'm you know,

2473
02:03:42,160 --> 02:03:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm I continue to make fun of Buffalo when I'm

2474
02:03:45,440 --> 02:03:47,360
Speaker 1: out on the road, and you laugh at me, but

2475
02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:49,720
Speaker 1: it's true. I make jokes to people when I'm out

2476
02:03:49,720 --> 02:03:51,960
Speaker 1: on the road or I'm Buffalo about Buffalo because it

2477
02:03:52,080 --> 02:03:55,160
Speaker 1: keeps the riff raff out of our town. I don't

2478
02:03:55,200 --> 02:03:57,839
Speaker 1: need people. I don't need people who don't like Buffalo

2479
02:03:57,960 --> 02:04:01,400
Speaker 1: living in Buffalo. I like us, I like our people. Right,

2480
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm laughing because it makes sense. I when I'm on

2481
02:04:04,720 --> 02:04:07,120
Speaker 1: the air with CBS and another, I always make I

2482
02:04:07,160 --> 02:04:09,440
Speaker 1: get better. It used to be the guys with the

2483
02:04:09,480 --> 02:04:11,680
Speaker 1: Bill say why are you dogging Buffalo? And I do

2484
02:04:11,800 --> 02:04:14,120
Speaker 1: it because it. I don't want people moving in. I

2485
02:04:14,120 --> 02:04:15,920
Speaker 1: don't want this. I don't want this town to have

2486
02:04:16,080 --> 02:04:17,720
Speaker 1: six million people in it. I like it the way

2487
02:04:17,720 --> 02:04:20,960
Speaker 1: it is. This is my this is our town. We

2488
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:24,000
Speaker 1: don't need those people at Antonio Brown coming into my town.

2489
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:28,200
Speaker 1: Football is important here, Hockey's important here. Buffalo is important.

2490
02:04:28,240 --> 02:04:30,840
Speaker 1: There you go. That's about the three top ones in

2491
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:33,200
Speaker 1: any order and any order, in any order you want

2492
02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:35,440
Speaker 1: to put it. And it's all and for me, it's

2493
02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:39,440
Speaker 1: about my family, which includes just about everybody in Buffalo.

2494
02:04:39,560 --> 02:04:43,600
Speaker 1: Right about that right brought up? So I wasn't Yeah,

2495
02:04:43,600 --> 02:04:47,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't into it when you it's true. And McDermot

2496
02:04:47,440 --> 02:04:49,680
Speaker 1: hit it right on the nail, right on the head, right,

2497
02:04:50,120 --> 02:04:53,480
Speaker 1: nailed it. Good for him? Yes, And and a forum,

2498
02:04:53,600 --> 02:04:55,920
Speaker 1: a national forum, love it. And I my only regret

2499
02:04:56,040 --> 02:04:57,720
Speaker 1: is that the Raiders ain't coming to town this year.

2500
02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:01,960
Speaker 1: I would love I would. I don't do that very well.

2501
02:05:01,960 --> 02:05:04,240
Speaker 1: I would ask for that game from CBA, give me

2502
02:05:04,320 --> 02:05:06,920
Speaker 1: that game. I couldn't get it. They wouldn't get it.

2503
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:09,400
Speaker 1: But that's the way it is. NFL true or false now,

2504
02:05:09,400 --> 02:05:11,600
Speaker 1: I brought to you by Yancy's Fancy New York's artists

2505
02:05:11,600 --> 02:05:14,640
Speaker 1: and Cheese number one. Don Banks wrote this on the

2506
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:17,600
Speaker 1: Patriots website. He says the NFL got it right by

2507
02:05:17,680 --> 02:05:21,080
Speaker 1: expanding replay review true or false. Have you heard the show?

2508
02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:24,120
Speaker 1: It's false. We've been talking about it since noon today.

2509
02:05:24,160 --> 02:05:26,040
Speaker 1: Of course it's false. They did not get it right.

2510
02:05:26,560 --> 02:05:30,120
Speaker 1: We're moving down a slippery slope here, including non calls

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02:05:30,160 --> 02:05:34,080
Speaker 1: in the new replay is a big mistake, unattended consequences

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02:05:34,160 --> 02:05:36,600
Speaker 1: all over the place. And look, it's not gonna mean

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02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:38,360
Speaker 1: the end of the NFL. It's not going to ruin

2514
02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:40,680
Speaker 1: the league. If they need to fix it, they'll fix it,

2515
02:05:40,760 --> 02:05:42,760
Speaker 1: they'll adjust it. I get all that, and I'm not

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02:05:43,160 --> 02:05:44,840
Speaker 1: this is not dooming gloom, but I just think it's

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02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:47,520
Speaker 1: a bad step in the wrong direction for the NFL.

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02:05:47,640 --> 02:05:50,480
Speaker 1: No False. The NFL got it wrong by expanding replay.

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02:05:50,640 --> 02:05:52,160
Speaker 1: I agree. I think they got it wrong. And the

2520
02:05:52,240 --> 02:05:54,040
Speaker 1: only question is how big a mistake is it going

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02:05:54,080 --> 02:05:56,560
Speaker 1: to be? What are the consequences going to be. I

2522
02:05:56,600 --> 02:05:59,640
Speaker 1: don't think there's any question that it's going to take

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02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:02,520
Speaker 1: the down the road it doesn't expect. And how far

2524
02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:04,800
Speaker 1: that road goes and how bad and bumpy that road

2525
02:06:04,960 --> 02:06:06,960
Speaker 1: is remains to be seen. But I don't I think

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02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:09,840
Speaker 1: it's a bad precedent to set. I think one play

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02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 1: in a very important game that was totally egregious miss

2528
02:06:13,720 --> 02:06:15,720
Speaker 1: call has led them down this road, and I think

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02:06:15,720 --> 02:06:18,240
Speaker 1: it's a knee jerk reaction. I agree, all right. Part two,

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02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:21,840
Speaker 1: NFL True or False Tony Romo deserves ten million dollars

2531
02:06:21,880 --> 02:06:24,440
Speaker 1: a year to stay at CBS. And when do we

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02:06:24,480 --> 02:06:27,080
Speaker 1: get to talk about Steve CBS deal. Tony Romo wants

2533
02:06:27,120 --> 02:06:30,440
Speaker 1: a record ten million dollars a year to stay at CBS.

2534
02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:34,160
Speaker 1: That's a report from Michael McCarthy on Sporting news dot com.

2535
02:06:34,600 --> 02:06:36,880
Speaker 1: It's been a great couple of years. It's two years

2536
02:06:36,920 --> 02:06:40,040
Speaker 1: now for Tony Romo. Right, great cup, isn't it? Yeah? Ye,

2537
02:06:40,120 --> 02:06:42,440
Speaker 1: he just finished his second in year. Tony Romo. His

2538
02:06:42,680 --> 02:06:44,960
Speaker 1: reps are looking for a contract. The snsion paying him

2539
02:06:45,000 --> 02:06:48,360
Speaker 1: eight figures annually to remain at CBS as their top

2540
02:06:48,840 --> 02:06:53,160
Speaker 1: NFL analysts. True false. He deserves ten million dollars. I'll

2541
02:06:53,240 --> 02:06:55,920
Speaker 1: let you go first, mister CBS. Yeah, give him his money.

2542
02:06:55,960 --> 02:06:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't care. How fine, what a shot I like

2543
02:06:58,160 --> 02:07:01,680
Speaker 1: to go. Let's they pay him ten million bucks. I

2544
02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:03,640
Speaker 1: may be out of a job, so they may not

2545
02:07:03,680 --> 02:07:06,600
Speaker 1: be able to afford me. So, but yeah, listen, it's

2546
02:07:06,680 --> 02:07:10,280
Speaker 1: it's a tough job he does. They have looked for guys.

2547
02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:12,720
Speaker 1: It's a hard job. Not splitting Adams, what do you mean?

2548
02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:15,080
Speaker 1: It's it's a hard job to be a kind of

2549
02:07:15,160 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 1: guy who can be likable and informative all the time,

2550
02:07:18,920 --> 02:07:21,080
Speaker 1: and to do something that has never been done before

2551
02:07:21,800 --> 02:07:23,920
Speaker 1: in your own unique way and have more people like

2552
02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:26,920
Speaker 1: it than dislike it. Tony did something that was that

2553
02:07:27,120 --> 02:07:32,040
Speaker 1: was awesome, and it was unique, and it's he's and

2554
02:07:32,120 --> 02:07:34,800
Speaker 1: he's likable doing it. He's working with the best guy

2555
02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:37,080
Speaker 1: ever in Jim Nance. It's a team that you don't

2556
02:07:37,080 --> 02:07:38,920
Speaker 1: want to break up. So I say give him his money.

2557
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm reluctant to agree with Seve, but I'll say sure,

2558
02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, if they can afford it. Yeah, that doesn't

2559
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:47,800
Speaker 1: impact Steve. Uh here's the thing. Uh, NFL games on

2560
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:50,240
Speaker 1: TV are the most popular TV show in the in

2561
02:07:50,280 --> 02:07:52,760
Speaker 1: America right now. So how could he not deserve it?

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02:07:53,160 --> 02:07:55,440
Speaker 1: Ten million, whatever, whatever he wants. I think they should.

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02:07:55,440 --> 02:07:57,680
Speaker 1: They'll probably give it to him too. Finally, NFL true

2564
02:07:57,720 --> 02:08:01,360
Speaker 1: or false? This comes from a massive dot com. Rob

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02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:05,880
Speaker 1: Gronkowski will eventually return to the National Football League. True false.

2566
02:08:06,120 --> 02:08:10,320
Speaker 1: I gotta go first. I don't know shit fingers odds. Oh,

2567
02:08:13,120 --> 02:08:15,600
Speaker 1: I'll go for ahead. Uh No, I think he's done.

2568
02:08:15,680 --> 02:08:17,560
Speaker 1: I really do. There's physical stuff going on. It's not

2569
02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:19,560
Speaker 1: just I'm tired of it. I'm walking away. Uh No,

2570
02:08:20,080 --> 02:08:22,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he will return your thought. I agree.

2571
02:08:22,440 --> 02:08:24,680
Speaker 1: I think he's done, and I think because of Gronk,

2572
02:08:24,720 --> 02:08:26,240
Speaker 1: who is who he is and the kind of guy

2573
02:08:26,360 --> 02:08:29,160
Speaker 1: he is, he's gonna have opportunities that will keep him challenged.

2574
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:31,640
Speaker 1: And I don't think that the lure will be big

2575
02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:33,520
Speaker 1: enough to go back and play. I think he's gonna

2576
02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:36,560
Speaker 1: have some interesting things and I think to do. And

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02:08:36,720 --> 02:08:39,680
Speaker 1: I also think once you shut it down, it's hard

2578
02:08:39,720 --> 02:08:42,600
Speaker 1: to turn it back on. I think he but let's

2579
02:08:42,680 --> 02:08:45,200
Speaker 1: remember he walked away. Yeah, it's not like they cut

2580
02:08:45,320 --> 02:08:46,520
Speaker 1: him and he's trying to make it come out. This

2581
02:08:46,600 --> 02:08:48,440
Speaker 1: is like Terrell Owens. This isn't like one of those

2582
02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:50,800
Speaker 1: guys who got kicked to the curb by the by

2583
02:08:50,840 --> 02:08:53,080
Speaker 1: the fourth team that he was on and he still

2584
02:08:53,120 --> 02:08:55,840
Speaker 1: wants to play. This guy retired. He was at the top,

2585
02:08:55,920 --> 02:08:59,000
Speaker 1: and he's had enough. He's had big time injuries. He's

2586
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:01,680
Speaker 1: also had big time production, and he walked out on

2587
02:09:01,800 --> 02:09:04,720
Speaker 1: top with a super Bowl championship. He's done. I don't

2588
02:09:04,760 --> 02:09:06,760
Speaker 1: mean done done. He could probably play if he wanted to.

2589
02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:09,400
Speaker 1: I just think he's ready to quit, and I think

2590
02:09:10,120 --> 02:09:11,520
Speaker 1: you gotta tip your hat to him. And I think

2591
02:09:11,560 --> 02:09:13,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna stay out. You know, by the way, you'll

2592
02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:15,880
Speaker 1: probably see him on a television screen or a movie screen,

2593
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, wrestling movies, TV shows. He's not done. I mean,

2594
02:09:19,240 --> 02:09:21,480
Speaker 1: he's not gone from our lives. I don't think he's

2595
02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:24,880
Speaker 1: a major celebrity, right he's Yeah, what's the guy's name,

2596
02:09:25,480 --> 02:09:28,720
Speaker 1: The Rock? Yeah, Dwayne Johnson. Yeah, he's bigger than he

2597
02:09:28,800 --> 02:09:30,680
Speaker 1: will be bigger than The Rock in two years, I think,

2598
02:09:31,320 --> 02:09:34,840
Speaker 1: celebrity wise. Oh, that's another he's had an over under. Yeah,

2599
02:09:37,400 --> 02:09:39,680
Speaker 1: bigger than the Rock. What do you think? All Right,

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02:09:39,720 --> 02:09:41,560
Speaker 1: there you go. NFL True or False brought to you

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02:09:41,600 --> 02:09:44,360
Speaker 1: by Yancy's Fancy New York's Artistan chief Stephen I back

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02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:46,000
Speaker 1: with more in a moment. One Bill's Live from One

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02:09:46,040 --> 02:10:03,600
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Well, here we go.

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Speaker 1: What have we learned today? Presented by Advanced Alarm providing

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills. We had one guest today, the

2608
02:10:14,680 --> 02:10:18,040
Speaker 1: best guests we could get, really, Dean Blandino, former NFL

2609
02:10:18,160 --> 02:10:21,240
Speaker 1: Vice President of Officiating, talking about the we only talked

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02:10:21,240 --> 02:10:25,040
Speaker 1: about the one major rules change on past interference replay calls,

2611
02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:27,200
Speaker 1: but Blandino had a lot to say, and I asked

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02:10:27,240 --> 02:10:30,040
Speaker 1: them about non calls are now reviewable? What did you

2613
02:10:30,080 --> 02:10:35,000
Speaker 1: think about that? My biggest concern about that is when

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02:10:35,040 --> 02:10:39,120
Speaker 1: the replay officials responsible inside two minutes. I don't mind

2615
02:10:39,200 --> 02:10:42,040
Speaker 1: the coach. If the coach thinks it's fast in deference

2616
02:10:42,080 --> 02:10:44,120
Speaker 1: and they have a limited number of challenges and they're

2617
02:10:44,120 --> 02:10:46,760
Speaker 1: willing to risk that time out, let them throw the

2618
02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:50,400
Speaker 1: challenge Black. I'm okay with that. I just think when

2619
02:10:50,440 --> 02:10:53,280
Speaker 1: it's the replay of officials responsibility inside of two minutes

2620
02:10:53,360 --> 02:10:56,720
Speaker 1: and there's no limits, that concerns me because now are

2621
02:10:56,760 --> 02:10:59,240
Speaker 1: they going to be looking for you on every play?

2622
02:10:59,360 --> 02:11:02,360
Speaker 1: There's content act on every play and so you know,

2623
02:11:02,440 --> 02:11:04,840
Speaker 1: Steve mentioned the hail Mary, but there's a lot of

2624
02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:07,560
Speaker 1: contact down fields, and is that replay official now going

2625
02:11:07,640 --> 02:11:10,520
Speaker 1: to be looking at you know, the the Cooks playing

2626
02:11:10,600 --> 02:11:13,000
Speaker 1: the in the Super Bowl, you know where past affairs

2627
02:11:13,080 --> 02:11:15,280
Speaker 1: was not called and the defender had his arm on

2628
02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:17,560
Speaker 1: the receiver. You know, is that now going to become

2629
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:21,520
Speaker 1: a foul inside two minutes? That's what concerns me the most.

2630
02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:24,040
Speaker 1: Dan Lendina made a lot of sense when he was

2631
02:11:24,080 --> 02:11:25,920
Speaker 1: on the show with Us Today, Steve, with a lot

2632
02:11:25,960 --> 02:11:27,320
Speaker 1: of I mean, he opened up the door to I

2633
02:11:27,360 --> 02:11:31,360
Speaker 1: didn't even think about the training of the actual guys

2634
02:11:31,400 --> 02:11:33,200
Speaker 1: are gonna make the calls because the guys on the

2635
02:11:33,240 --> 02:11:35,320
Speaker 1: field are nothing's changed. They're gonna do things the way

2636
02:11:35,320 --> 02:11:36,920
Speaker 1: they do it, and if they miss one, they're not

2637
02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:38,520
Speaker 1: gonna fix it. It's got to be somebody else to

2638
02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:42,720
Speaker 1: fix it. And now you got this guy who was

2639
02:11:42,720 --> 02:11:45,200
Speaker 1: a full time insurance agent, part time official in the

2640
02:11:45,280 --> 02:11:49,880
Speaker 1: booth making a call. Yeah, there were at least or

2641
02:11:49,880 --> 02:11:51,600
Speaker 1: at least pushing the button and say, hey, could you

2642
02:11:51,680 --> 02:11:54,360
Speaker 1: look at this and make a call? Right? You know, Yeah,

2643
02:11:54,840 --> 02:11:57,480
Speaker 1: you brought up hail Mary's, and several callers brought up

2644
02:11:57,480 --> 02:12:00,920
Speaker 1: hail Marys. That'll be an issue, right, the replay official

2645
02:12:01,320 --> 02:12:04,680
Speaker 1: in New York ready to really strictly enforce past interference

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02:12:04,720 --> 02:12:06,720
Speaker 1: on hail Mary's because the guys on the field haven't

2647
02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:10,120
Speaker 1: for decades. Right, it's almost a tradition. Last play the

2648
02:12:10,160 --> 02:12:13,160
Speaker 1: game Hail Mary, anything goes. And it's also that bang

2649
02:12:13,240 --> 02:12:16,920
Speaker 1: bang play Yeah, where when you slow it down on replay. Yeah,

2650
02:12:16,960 --> 02:12:19,640
Speaker 1: he did get there early and maybe if it's a

2651
02:12:19,680 --> 02:12:23,600
Speaker 1: crucial drive, the club does need that first down. It

2652
02:12:23,720 --> 02:12:26,000
Speaker 1: is a third and eight, you know when they're going

2653
02:12:26,080 --> 02:12:28,200
Speaker 1: in it does put him inside field goal range to

2654
02:12:28,280 --> 02:12:31,200
Speaker 1: tie it, and they do need that call. Well, how

2655
02:12:31,240 --> 02:12:33,160
Speaker 1: are you going to handle a bang bang play on

2656
02:12:33,320 --> 02:12:35,400
Speaker 1: replay when you can slow it down frame by frame

2657
02:12:35,800 --> 02:12:39,240
Speaker 1: and technically there's absolutely no way to look the other

2658
02:12:39,320 --> 02:12:41,720
Speaker 1: way and say, yeah, that was a penalty, even though

2659
02:12:41,720 --> 02:12:43,880
Speaker 1: it was very fast and on the naked eye was

2660
02:12:43,960 --> 02:12:46,720
Speaker 1: close when you slow it down, look at it on replay,

2661
02:12:46,880 --> 02:12:50,320
Speaker 1: it was a penalty and now it's a and now

2662
02:12:50,360 --> 02:12:53,040
Speaker 1: you got to enforce it. And I think catchable uncatchable

2663
02:12:53,240 --> 02:12:55,560
Speaker 1: is going to be a problem for a replay official

2664
02:12:55,680 --> 02:12:59,800
Speaker 1: in New York to essentially overrule what was called or

2665
02:13:00,200 --> 02:13:02,840
Speaker 1: called on the field catchable ball, non catchable ball, and

2666
02:13:02,880 --> 02:13:04,960
Speaker 1: human to tell me from the replay angles they have

2667
02:13:05,080 --> 02:13:07,919
Speaker 1: several you can really tell whether that ball was catchable.

2668
02:13:08,200 --> 02:13:10,200
Speaker 1: I don't know there's issues with this. I'm not in favor.

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02:13:10,480 --> 02:13:12,720
Speaker 1: On the Twitter poll today, we asked the question do

2670
02:13:12,800 --> 02:13:15,400
Speaker 1: you like the change to review pass interference? And it's

2671
02:13:15,440 --> 02:13:17,960
Speaker 1: pretty close, closer than I thought. Fifty four percent of

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Speaker 1: our respondents a thousand respondents said yes, I like the

2673
02:13:21,120 --> 02:13:24,200
Speaker 1: change to have replay involved in pass interference. Forty six

2674
02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:26,400
Speaker 1: percent said no, I do not like it. I thought

2675
02:13:26,400 --> 02:13:29,840
Speaker 1: it would be more overwhelmingly a yes vote. Steve, I

2676
02:13:30,440 --> 02:13:34,480
Speaker 1: want to thank Dean Blandino. I want to thank Sean McDermott.

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02:13:34,520 --> 02:13:36,200
Speaker 1: Really liked his sound bite at the end of the show.

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02:13:36,240 --> 02:13:37,800
Speaker 1: I want to thank you. I was in distress coming

2679
02:13:37,840 --> 02:13:40,320
Speaker 1: into the show. I just you're in a bad A

2680
02:13:40,440 --> 02:13:43,040
Speaker 1: bunch of things irritated me. We end the show three years,

2681
02:13:43,160 --> 02:13:45,400
Speaker 1: three years, three hours later, and I feel much better.

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02:13:45,560 --> 02:13:49,320
Speaker 1: I like you and open sharp here. Yeah, really, I

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02:13:49,400 --> 02:13:51,840
Speaker 1: feel better for you. Another show tomorrow. We'll probably back

2684
02:13:51,880 --> 02:13:54,920
Speaker 1: off the replay calls tomorrow a little bit pens okay,

2685
02:13:55,000 --> 02:13:57,320
Speaker 1: Steve may want to We'll see What'll see what people

2686
02:13:57,400 --> 02:13:59,680
Speaker 1: have to say about it overnight. Good conversation. Thanks for

2687
02:13:59,720 --> 02:14:04,240
Speaker 1: tuning it. Our production assistants George Blast, Jeff Coltnick Thomas, Homander,

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Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, JJ Turrido, Kevin Gardis, James Robel, our producer

2689
02:14:07,800 --> 02:14:09,640
Speaker 1: Jay Harris. We'll see tomorrow. We'll have a show tomorrow.

2690
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Speaker 1: It'll be three hours long. Don't know what'll be in

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Speaker 1: it yet, but join us One Bill's Live tomorrow at noon,

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02:14:13,920 --> 02:14:16,800
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