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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with on our radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 3: We are here tonight with one of my favorite people

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Speaker 3: in the world, one of Almost Famous listeners favorite people

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Speaker 3: in the world, Kaylan, Welcome. It's been a while since

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Speaker 3: you've been on here. Used to be a regular guest

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Speaker 3: with us, giving us updates on everything happening in your life.

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Speaker 3: But it's been a bit since you've jumped on the

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Speaker 3: Almost Famous feed.

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Speaker 4: It's been a bit. But I just come see you

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Speaker 4: in person, now, you know. I come seeing you and

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Speaker 4: your wife and Winnie.

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Speaker 5: It's great.

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Speaker 2: It's better that way, so much better.

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Speaker 3: Life is so the crazy part is, Kaylen, out of

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Speaker 3: any of Jess's friends, have met Winnie the most, you know,

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Speaker 3: because for the first few weeks we weren't seeing anybody,

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Speaker 3: and then you came and you've been here and you've

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Speaker 3: got it, and like, just wait to see her again.

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Speaker 2: I go on and on. She's changed. It's wild.

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Speaker 5: It's awesome, Sin sing Winnie.

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Speaker 4: And because we're so close that my goal is to

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Speaker 4: see her once a month, So I'm at once a

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Speaker 4: month and then in May Jess and I are going

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Speaker 4: to a concert, so that'd be the third month.

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Speaker 5: So I'm hoping I can keep it up.

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Speaker 3: It would be incredible, and I hope you do too.

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Speaker 3: It means a lot. That's kind of what we're here

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Speaker 3: talking about today. You and Dean, let's start with this.

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Speaker 3: Do live close ish to Denver. Close to Denver. You

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Speaker 3: live in Carbondale, which is just west of here. It's

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Speaker 3: a beautiful place. It's not far from where the two

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Speaker 3: of you got married. How is the experience being, you know,

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Speaker 3: moving from Vegas, Slash, La to Carbondale, Colorado.

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Speaker 5: It is the best thing ever.

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Speaker 4: I talk about it all the time, Like moving from Vegas, La,

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Speaker 4: I feel so at peace, Like I'm a very anxious person,

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Speaker 4: and I'm still anxious to some degree, but I'm just

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Speaker 4: so calm and I feel very grounded. Like I wake

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Speaker 4: up there's thirty elk in the backyard, and then there's

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Speaker 4: twenty deer in the front yard, and we've got turkeys

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Speaker 5: So it's it's it's fun.

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Speaker 4: I love it. It's the best thing, and it's really

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Speaker 4: hard to leave. I've never been in a place where

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Speaker 4: I love it so much. And also I love every season.

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Speaker 4: You live in Colorado, so it's like every single season

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Speaker 4: is perfect, which is great.

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Speaker 3: It's it is a unique thing. I think it's something.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, we live outside of Denver twenty miles

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Speaker 3: and so there are similarities with the elk and the deer.

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Speaker 3: And today I have a buffalo. We have buffalo. And

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Speaker 3: today I had to bring Whalen in early from a

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Speaker 3: walk because a fox was like in our backyard and

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Speaker 3: it was acting all funny, like there's something very sacred

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Speaker 3: to me. And it's very peaceful. I think you said

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Speaker 3: it best right there. It's like very peaceful to this

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Speaker 3: kind of spot to live in. It's different than in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you guys are luckier because you are so

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Speaker 4: close to a city. So if you need, like well

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Speaker 4: if just needs this suphort, I'm thinking, like girl thingks

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Speaker 4: just needs a Sephora.

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Speaker 5: I have to drive to you guys to get to Sephora.

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Speaker 4: You have all the things that you need and we

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Speaker 4: are very isolated.

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Speaker 5: But there's like pros and cons.

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Speaker 2: To both it.

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Speaker 3: The I think for for anybody making the move from

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Speaker 3: like Carbondale, especially newly married, I think there, I mean

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Speaker 3: it would be for me at least, it'd be these

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Speaker 3: concerns of, Okay, do we really like each other enough

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Speaker 3: to be this isolated in the world. I mean, because

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Speaker 3: you are pretty isolated out there. So how has being

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Speaker 2: To his home.

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Speaker 5: It has been.

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Speaker 4: It's been really great for me selfishly, Like all of

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Speaker 4: his high school friends are there. I've met all of

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Speaker 4: it's been great for our marriage, Like it's been great

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Speaker 4: being isolated, but also living in the valley that we do,

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Speaker 4: there are so many community based events, like more there's

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Speaker 4: there's constantly something going on. So every Wednesday we go

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Speaker 4: to trivia, Like the bartenders know us, like the whole

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Speaker 4: go it's so intimate that we kind of know everyone,

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Speaker 3: I'm curious because I don't know many people that are

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Speaker 3: and Dean and and I don't want to see the

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Speaker 3: influencing space because that feels like a.

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Speaker 2: Diminishes exactly what you do.

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Speaker 3: But you, too, have done a really great job at

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Speaker 3: kind of showing off your life through social media and

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Speaker 3: through other platforms to the public in my opinion, and

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Speaker 3: you tell me if I'm wrong. This is where my

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Speaker 3: curiosity comes from. It would be a lot easier to

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Speaker 3: do that when you're in Los Angeles or Vegas, because

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Speaker 3: there's these big, fancy events that you're getting invited to,

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Speaker 3: and you know you're running into people who are like, oh,

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Speaker 3: there's Kaylin, let's hire her on to do this brand

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Speaker 3: deal because she's so great. Now you're in Carbondale. Has

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Speaker 3: it changed that at all? Does it feel harder? Does

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Speaker 3: it feel easier? Kind of talk through what it's like

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Speaker 3: to influence her, to show off your life from a

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Speaker 3: completely different city that this isn't super common.

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Speaker 5: In it kind of it feels easier and harder.

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Speaker 4: It does feel harder, like you're not like going face

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Speaker 4: to face with brands, But it feels easier in the

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Speaker 4: sense of, like, I feel way more comfortable sharing my life.

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Speaker 4: It's the happiest I've ever been. It's true, Like I

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Speaker 4: tell everyone, it's the best place in the world. So

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Speaker 4: I'm just like so much happier and feel like I'm

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Speaker 4: way more open. In LA there's a lot of showboating

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Speaker 4: in the influencer space, particularly, so it's tricky and I'm

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Speaker 4: just like, I feel whatever, if I don't get a

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Speaker 4: brand deal because I'm not at an event, that's fine

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Speaker 4: because I'm happy just like being here with my wild

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's why I stayed, because the race to

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Speaker 3: stay relevant in Los Angeles was eating me alive, and

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Speaker 3: so I had to stay in Denver because, if anything,

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Speaker 3: it gave me the mental excuse to be like, I

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Speaker 3: wasn't invited to that because I don't.

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Speaker 5: Live there, right, and so your ego, it's better for

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Speaker 5: my ego.

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Speaker 3: It's what I needed. I have a big ego and

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Speaker 3: it gets hurt too, so when I'm.

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Speaker 5: Away, so I get that.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I'm like, no, I wasn't invited because I don't

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Speaker 3: They got to buy a plane ticket or it has

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Speaker 3: me to travel in. It's I protected my ego by

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Speaker 5: Don't want to go to Coachell or Stagecoach. But the

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Speaker 5: fact that I wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Invited, I've never been invited to either. So if that

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Speaker 3: never been invited to either. But the reason is because

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Speaker 3: I live in Denver. Yeah, it's just not convenient for

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Speaker 3: get it, Kaitlin, you have made the reason I asked

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Speaker 3: about this is E News has had an interview recently

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Speaker 3: talking about your fertility experience. Now they described it as

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Speaker 3: fertility struggles. But I am not going to put that

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Speaker 3: for anybody listening who doesn't read E News but listens

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Speaker 3: to the almost famous podcast, I guess the assumption here

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Speaker 3: that I'm making is that you and Dean are at

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Speaker 3: least considering starting a family and expanding your family, and

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Speaker 3: then you take it from there to wherever you want

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we've been trying for not quite a year,

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Speaker 4: it's harder than I anticipated because I have many, many siblings.

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Speaker 4: every single kid, so I like anticipated that. But I'm

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Speaker 5: And Dean and I were just talking about this.

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Speaker 4: Two of our best friends are getting married next year

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Speaker 4: in Ireland, and so it's like, if I get pregnant

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Speaker 4: right now, we won't be able to go. But Dean's like,

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Speaker 4: if there's always an excuse to put it off, you know,

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna keep trying. If we get pregnant, that's awesome.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, we're not putting pressure on it yet

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Speaker 5: Happen when it happens.

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Speaker 4: And you guys are proof of that because you have

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Speaker 4: a perfect little Winny, and you guys have made me

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Speaker 4: so excited for kids because anytime I see what she's

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Speaker 4: just so great and talking to Jess, Jess is like

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Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, Jess, and like that's a genuine,

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Speaker 3: easier or harder. Not everybody's mothering experience is the same,

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Speaker 3: you know, not everybody's postpartum is the same. But she's

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Speaker 3: she said, if I can do one thing, it's just

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Speaker 3: encourage moms that it's not bad. It's good, no matter what,

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Speaker 3: it's good. It could be hard, but it's good, and

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Speaker 3: to encourage that. But I'll tell you what, Jess, You're right,

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Speaker 3: she's thrived in this role. Like it's been incredible, and

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Speaker 3: It took us a lot of doctor's appointments and checkups

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Speaker 3: make us both healthy enough to make this happen.

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Speaker 2: But it took time.

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Speaker 3: And not putting pressure on it, I think is the

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Speaker 3: best advice I could give and the best insight that

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Speaker 3: you're sharing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I also think it's cool that you said, like

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Speaker 4: Jess is being intentional about wanting to encourage, you know,

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Speaker 4: women to become moms, because that literally anytime I talk

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Speaker 4: to her, text her, see her. That's what I feel.

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Speaker 4: And it's really cool to see you be a dad.

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Speaker 4: I've only seen you twice now in that role, but

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Speaker 4: I remember the first time I came over. I don't

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Speaker 4: was very, very small, and you took her out of

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Speaker 3: it's just like, yeah, don't put pressure on it, because here's.

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Speaker 2: The truth to it.

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Speaker 3: Too, the dirty truth or the good truth. The more pressure,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's like friends with Chandler and Monica.

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Speaker 3: You know, as we close up here, I'm gonna make

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Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna finish talking about this show that

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Speaker 3: Bachelor franchise, and we're getting more of the behind the

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Speaker 3: scenes of what exactly happened in these moments. Now, let's

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Speaker 3: The productions team that we knew, the editors that we knew,

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Speaker 5: Okay, that's a really good question.

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Speaker 4: My heart is racing because Dean and I have both

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Speaker 5: Where is it going with this?

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Speaker 3: Doing any of them? I just refuse to read them

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Speaker 5: We really doing this?

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Speaker 4: Last a couple of minutes of wow, uh gosh, It

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Speaker 5: To overcome that. So I don't really think I have

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Speaker 4: I think we just need to get rid of it

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Speaker 2: That's insight right there.

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Speaker 3: If you're hired on the as the EP, you'd say, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm firing myself and everybody else. We're gonna take a

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Speaker 2: We'll see it then, and we hope people watch. That's

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Speaker 2: the insight. I like it. I think it's a great move.

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Speaker 3: I think people would be so ecstatic if you like

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Speaker 3: American idol over again, take a few years off, come

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Speaker 3: As we close here, is there anything about your life,

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Speaker 3: your life with Dean? I don't know these infamous headlines,

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Speaker 3: that's not what I would put you in a position

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Speaker 2: But I'm glad that you thought I would.

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Speaker 3: But is there anything that you would love to share

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Speaker 4: No, I think you did a great job. I love

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Speaker 4: And it's great too. You know, it's a rare thing

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Speaker 4: We love you guys, and I know Dean's really looking

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Speaker 2: I know he needs to get down here and meet

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Speaker 5: Though, that is, you won't come to Denver. It's so hard.

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Speaker 3: The guy has literally gone from traveling in a van

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Speaker 4: Oh v this, I'll text you this video. He's cuddling

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Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's good for him, it's good for us.

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Speaker 2: We love you so much.

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Speaker 3: It means so much that you've came and visited Winnie.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna see her grow up. I could talk about

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Speaker 3: kaylen uh. Four days ago, here's the update for anybody

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Speaker 3: So when I smile, she smiles. When I stick my

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Speaker 5: My life so special, it.

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Speaker 2: Is something to behold.

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Speaker 5: So she do it to Jess, you or just you.

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Speaker 3: Jess as well, she'll do it to anybody you can.

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Speaker 3: Just wait, you come here, you stick out your tongue

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Speaker 3: It's something. Caylen, thanks for jumping on with us tonight,

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Speaker 3: and we appreciate you. Best of luck and everything, and

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see you soon.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so soon.

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Speaker 3: With that, this is the Almost Famous podcast we had

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Speaker 3: Kaylin here tonight. Until next time I've been Ben, We'll

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