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Speaker 1: fifth goes to Raymond Arroyo. Raymond is an American author, journalist,
Speaker 1: and producer who appeared on Fox this Week Fox News
Speaker 1: to discuss all things Grammys and I let the record
Speaker 1: show this is one of the best Grammys I've seen
Speaker 1: in a long time. Dropping the cluse bombs for the
Speaker 1: Grammys this year personally to me, all right to me.
Speaker 1: They got a lot right Rhapsody winning Best Melodic Rap
Speaker 1: Performers for three a m with Queen Eric Abadu, Don't
Speaker 1: You winning Best Rap Album for alligated byce never Hill,
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar going five for five for the Greatest diss
Speaker 1: record of all Time Not Like Us, and of course
Speaker 1: Beyonce winning Best Country Album and Album, but a year. Now,
Speaker 1: there's debates, you know, about all of these people and
Speaker 1: all of these different awards that were one and who
Speaker 1: should have won and why I saw people saying DOCI
Speaker 1: is an industry plant. People think the Grammys gave Kendrick
Speaker 1: all those awards despite Drake, and of course Beyonce winning
Speaker 1: Best Country Album was gonna piss some people off. And
Speaker 1: Raymond is one of those people because he was on
Speaker 1: Laura Ingram's show on Fox and he had this to say.
Speaker 2: Let's listen, now, what do you make of that?
Speaker 3: You know, legendary country artist Beyonce winning for Best Country Album.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put this in some context.
Speaker 3: Laura Dolly Parton has ten Grammys, Frank Sinatra had eleven Grammys,
Speaker 3: Beyonce has thirty five.
Speaker 2: How is that possibly commensurate with that talent?
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, And what people don't know about
Speaker 3: the Grammys is everybody votes in every genre. You can
Speaker 3: vote in up to twenty genres. Soa Lady Gaga's cat
Speaker 3: Sitter votes for, you know, Best Reggae and Best Country Album.
Speaker 3: So that's why you get this ridiculous outcome that has
Speaker 3: nothing to do with the country audience or the country musician.
Speaker 1: That's not true. Only people in the music industry vote
Speaker 1: for the Grammys. But you know, Raymond, if you don't
Speaker 1: feel Beyonce she win Best Country Album, fine, Okay. Maybe
Speaker 1: you thought post Malone F one was better. Maybe you
Speaker 1: thought Laney Wilson Whirwin was better. Maybe you thought Chris
Speaker 1: Stables and Hya was better.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: But for you to sit up there and attempt and
Speaker 1: rain on Beyonce's black parade and hate on her for
Speaker 1: having thirty five Grammys is utterly ridiculous. Okay, once again,
Speaker 1: that's your opinion, but listen to the context of what
Speaker 1: he said. Dolly Parton has ten Grammys, Frank Sinatra had
Speaker 1: eleven Grammys, Beyonce.
Speaker 2: Has thirty five.
Speaker 1: How does that possibly what did you say commensurate with
Speaker 1: the talent?
Speaker 2: What did he say?
Speaker 1: I can't remember the word you use, But basically, how
Speaker 1: does her talent equate to thirty five Grammys?
Speaker 2: Because she's talented?
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, you don't have to love Beyonce, you don't
Speaker 1: even have to like her music, but one thing you
Speaker 1: cannot deny her talent. Okay, Dolly Partner, franksin not your
Speaker 1: our incredible talents legends icon living well, Icon's one is living,
Speaker 1: but neither one of them have been dancing installletal since
Speaker 1: the age of twelve.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Also, neither one of them of verbs. What do you mean,
Speaker 1: Uncle Haolotte? Neither one of them a verbs. Beyonce is
Speaker 1: a verb, to be clear, because my mother is a
Speaker 1: niggamos teacher. She is a proper now, okay. Beyonce is
Speaker 1: a proper noun that is often used as a verb.
Speaker 1: You can say various things to people like you ain't Beyonce, okay,
Speaker 1: to remind folks you not excellent, You not as fly
Speaker 1: as you think you are. Okay, using in the center
Speaker 1: of Charlamagne. Why are you following zero people on Instagram?
Speaker 1: You not Beyonce?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: My point is Raymond Dolly Parton herself has praised Beyonce's work.
Speaker 1: Dolly Parton is on Cowboy Carter. Okay, remember what Dolly
Speaker 1: said about Beyonce on E News about eight months ago.
Speaker 2: Listen Beyonce covering Joe. I know, what are your thoughts
Speaker 2: on her version?
Speaker 4: Well, I think it was very bold of her, but
Speaker 4: I love what she did to it.
Speaker 1: I was very proud of her album.
Speaker 4: So she did a great job in country music, and
Speaker 4: I thought it was great and I was just happy
Speaker 4: she did.
Speaker 1: Joe Lene. Listen, Raymond, it's not apples and rams. Just okay,
Speaker 1: you gotta dig a little deeper on who is voting
Speaker 1: for Grammys and how they come to these conclusions. And
Speaker 1: if you're mad at the voters now, oh, you'd have
Speaker 1: been pissed off even more back then because you mentioned
Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra. You know, the year he had two number
Speaker 1: one albums, he only won one Grammy and was nominated
Speaker 1: for five. And you know what he won for his
Speaker 1: album cover. Okay, his album cover, not his music.
Speaker 2: Look it up.
Speaker 1: He won his first Grammy in nineteen fifty nine for
Speaker 1: Only the Lonely, and he won for the cover.
Speaker 2: On the cover, he was dressed as a sad clown. Raymond.
Speaker 2: You can relate all right now, mind you.
Speaker 1: In nineteen fifty nine, he had Only the Lonely and
Speaker 1: Come Fly with Me. He was nominated for five Grammys,
Speaker 1: including Album of the Year, but he won for his
Speaker 1: album cover.
Speaker 2: So knock it off, Raymond. The Grammys of the Grammy.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they get it right, sometimes they get it wrong.
Speaker 1: This year they got it absolutely right and giving Beyonce
Speaker 1: thirty five Grammys over her career is absolutely the right.
Speaker 2: Thing to do.
Speaker 1: But usually you know when you voting yes for Beyonce,
Speaker 1: you are getting it right. And everyone is entitled to
Speaker 1: their opinion. But Miley Cyrus thought Beyonce should have won.
Speaker 1: I think she knows more about music than the both
Speaker 1: of us.
Speaker 2: Raymond.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying, man, is, everybody is entitled to their
Speaker 1: own opinion, but sometimes our opinions can be wrong. Are
Speaker 1: sometimes our opinions can be rooted in hate. And Raymond
Speaker 1: as a person who can also be an objective hater,
Speaker 1: I am an objective hater.
Speaker 2: What you are doing is hating.
Speaker 1: But I saw Whoopi Goldberg get on your ass on
Speaker 1: your view yesterday and I enjoyed what she had to say.
Speaker 2: Let's listen. She earned it the thing you have.
Speaker 4: You know you want to hold onto country music like
Speaker 4: white people didn't also buy her country album. Come on, man,
Speaker 4: well people voted for it. Sometimes you win, sometimes you don't.
Speaker 4: Same with the Oscar sit down.
Speaker 1: Sit down, she told you you please, let Chelsea Handler
Speaker 1: give Raymond Arroyo the biggest.
Speaker 2: He haw hee haw hee haw That is way too much.
Speaker 2: Dan Maynet yes, it is all right. I agree. Well,
Speaker 2: thank you for that donkey today. Now when we come
Speaker 2: back t K. Kirkland, we'll be joining us comedian T. K.
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