1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: He wanted to know how you came up with them. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: Don't be other days because there's a bunch of donkeys. 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: That is what Charlemagne remember a life where we are 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: tongue based off COOLi lay fingers. He never was saying 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: this on the Breakfast Club. 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: In the words of charlemagnea god, he's a donkey. 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: Oh man, Charlamagne, you've given donkey the day to. 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Who now well buster rhymes Donkey Today for Wednesday, February 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: fifth goes to Raymond Arroyo. Raymond is an American author, journalist, 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: and producer who appeared on Fox this Week Fox News 11 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: to discuss all things Grammys and I let the record 12 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: show this is one of the best Grammys I've seen 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: in a long time. Dropping the cluse bombs for the 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: Grammys this year personally to me, all right to me. 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: They got a lot right Rhapsody winning Best Melodic Rap 16 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: Performers for three a m with Queen Eric Abadu, Don't 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: You winning Best Rap Album for alligated byce never Hill, 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar going five for five for the Greatest diss 19 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: record of all Time Not Like Us, and of course 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: Beyonce winning Best Country Album and Album, but a year. Now, 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: there's debates, you know, about all of these people and 22 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: all of these different awards that were one and who 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: should have won and why I saw people saying DOCI 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: is an industry plant. People think the Grammys gave Kendrick 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: all those awards despite Drake, and of course Beyonce winning 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: Best Country Album was gonna piss some people off. And 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: Raymond is one of those people because he was on 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: Laura Ingram's show on Fox and he had this to say. 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: Let's listen, now, what do you make of that? 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: You know, legendary country artist Beyonce winning for Best Country Album. 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put this in some context. 32 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 3: Laura Dolly Parton has ten Grammys, Frank Sinatra had eleven Grammys, 33 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: Beyonce has thirty five. 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: How is that possibly commensurate with that talent? 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: I mean, come on, And what people don't know about 36 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: the Grammys is everybody votes in every genre. You can 37 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: vote in up to twenty genres. Soa Lady Gaga's cat 38 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: Sitter votes for, you know, Best Reggae and Best Country Album. 39 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: So that's why you get this ridiculous outcome that has 40 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 3: nothing to do with the country audience or the country musician. 41 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: That's not true. Only people in the music industry vote 42 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: for the Grammys. But you know, Raymond, if you don't 43 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: feel Beyonce she win Best Country Album, fine, Okay. Maybe 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: you thought post Malone F one was better. Maybe you 45 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: thought Laney Wilson Whirwin was better. Maybe you thought Chris 46 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: Stables and Hya was better. 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. 48 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: But for you to sit up there and attempt and 49 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: rain on Beyonce's black parade and hate on her for 50 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: having thirty five Grammys is utterly ridiculous. Okay, once again, 51 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: that's your opinion, but listen to the context of what 52 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: he said. Dolly Parton has ten Grammys, Frank Sinatra had 53 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: eleven Grammys, Beyonce. 54 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 2: Has thirty five. 55 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: How does that possibly what did you say commensurate with 56 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: the talent? 57 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: What did he say? 58 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: I can't remember the word you use, But basically, how 59 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: does her talent equate to thirty five Grammys? 60 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 2: Because she's talented? 61 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: Okay, Now, you don't have to love Beyonce, you don't 62 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: even have to like her music, but one thing you 63 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: cannot deny her talent. Okay, Dolly Partner, franksin not your 64 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: our incredible talents legends icon living well, Icon's one is living, 65 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: but neither one of them have been dancing installletal since 66 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: the age of twelve. 67 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: Okay. 68 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: Also, neither one of them of verbs. What do you mean, 69 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: Uncle Haolotte? Neither one of them a verbs. Beyonce is 70 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 1: a verb, to be clear, because my mother is a 71 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: niggamos teacher. She is a proper now, okay. Beyonce is 72 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: a proper noun that is often used as a verb. 73 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: You can say various things to people like you ain't Beyonce, okay, 74 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: to remind folks you not excellent, You not as fly 75 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: as you think you are. Okay, using in the center 76 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: of Charlamagne. Why are you following zero people on Instagram? 77 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: You not Beyonce? 78 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: Okay? 79 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: My point is Raymond Dolly Parton herself has praised Beyonce's work. 80 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: Dolly Parton is on Cowboy Carter. Okay, remember what Dolly 81 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: said about Beyonce on E News about eight months ago. 82 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: Listen Beyonce covering Joe. I know, what are your thoughts 83 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: on her version? 84 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 4: Well, I think it was very bold of her, but 85 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 4: I love what she did to it. 86 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: I was very proud of her album. 87 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 4: So she did a great job in country music, and 88 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 4: I thought it was great and I was just happy 89 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 4: she did. 90 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: Joe Lene. Listen, Raymond, it's not apples and rams. Just okay, 91 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: you gotta dig a little deeper on who is voting 92 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: for Grammys and how they come to these conclusions. And 93 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: if you're mad at the voters now, oh, you'd have 94 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: been pissed off even more back then because you mentioned 95 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra. You know, the year he had two number 96 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: one albums, he only won one Grammy and was nominated 97 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: for five. And you know what he won for his 98 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: album cover. Okay, his album cover, not his music. 99 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: Look it up. 100 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: He won his first Grammy in nineteen fifty nine for 101 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: Only the Lonely, and he won for the cover. 102 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: On the cover, he was dressed as a sad clown. Raymond. 103 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: You can relate all right now, mind you. 104 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: In nineteen fifty nine, he had Only the Lonely and 105 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: Come Fly with Me. He was nominated for five Grammys, 106 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: including Album of the Year, but he won for his 107 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: album cover. 108 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: So knock it off, Raymond. The Grammys of the Grammy. 109 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,119 Speaker 1: Sometimes they get it right, sometimes they get it wrong. 110 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: This year they got it absolutely right and giving Beyonce 111 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: thirty five Grammys over her career is absolutely the right. 112 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: Thing to do. 113 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: But usually you know when you voting yes for Beyonce, 114 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: you are getting it right. And everyone is entitled to 115 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: their opinion. But Miley Cyrus thought Beyonce should have won. 116 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: I think she knows more about music than the both 117 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: of us. 118 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: Raymond. 119 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: All I'm saying, man, is, everybody is entitled to their 120 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: own opinion, but sometimes our opinions can be wrong. Are 121 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: sometimes our opinions can be rooted in hate. And Raymond 122 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: as a person who can also be an objective hater, 123 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: I am an objective hater. 124 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: What you are doing is hating. 125 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: But I saw Whoopi Goldberg get on your ass on 126 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: your view yesterday and I enjoyed what she had to say. 127 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: Let's listen. She earned it the thing you have. 128 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 4: You know you want to hold onto country music like 129 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 4: white people didn't also buy her country album. Come on, man, 130 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: well people voted for it. Sometimes you win, sometimes you don't. 131 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 4: Same with the Oscar sit down. 132 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,239 Speaker 1: Sit down, she told you you please, let Chelsea Handler 133 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: give Raymond Arroyo the biggest. 134 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: He haw hee haw hee haw That is way too much. 135 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: Dan Maynet yes, it is all right. I agree. Well, 136 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: thank you for that donkey today. Now when we come 137 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: back t K. Kirkland, we'll be joining us comedian T. K. 138 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: Kirkland and we're gonna talk to him next. And don't 139 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: go anywhere. It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning the Breakfast Club.