Speaker 1: So Brandy Glanville is suing Bravo and Andy Cohen because
Speaker 1: of an inappropriate video sent to her for sexual harassment,
Speaker 1: saying that Andy sent her a video with another Bravo celebrity.
Speaker 1: I think her name is Kate Chastain, and it was
Speaker 1: what he said in an ex post to be a joke,
Speaker 1: that he was drunk and he sent an inappropriate video,
Speaker 1: but it was a joke. Andy has different relationships with
Speaker 1: every housewife. Some could be talking about business and money
Speaker 1: like mine used to be with him. Another could be
Speaker 1: his party friend. Somebody else could be his really deep
Speaker 1: party friend. He has different relationships with different Bravo celebrities,
Speaker 1: and like he used to hang out with Jeff and
Speaker 1: Jenny a lot, I don't think he hangs out with
Speaker 1: Jenny anymore. Sometimes he hangs out with Jeff like he
Speaker 1: picks his favorites. He used to hang out with Nini
Speaker 1: in a certain way. He likes to hang out with
Speaker 1: housewives individually and Bravo lebrities individually, not really in clusters.
Speaker 1: So there's an individual relationship with each. And the thing
Speaker 1: is that the article where Brian and Mark Brandy's lawyers say,
Speaker 1: you know that they haven't seen something like this since
Speaker 1: Matt Lower and that he sits in this position while
Speaker 1: he's inappropriately texting and sending videos to talent. And the
Speaker 1: thing is, he works for a multi billion dollar public company.
Speaker 1: He's an he used to be an executive. He's an
Speaker 1: executive producer, and he also has a role on one
Speaker 1: show as talent. But he produces these shows and he's
Speaker 1: in a power position. It's undeniable. He's in a position
Speaker 1: to cast, to fire, to negotiate salaries, to approve, to deny,
Speaker 1: to put people in this seat that seat.
Speaker 2: And he also is in control of all.
Speaker 1: Of the reunions and he is the host of all
Speaker 1: the reunions, so he's in an interesting hybrid position. Something
Speaker 1: that Kathy Griffin brought up years ago that it's unprecedented
Speaker 1: that an executive would also then be a talent. And
Speaker 1: she's talked a lot about him, and so has Nini.
Speaker 1: So there's so much stuff coming out about Andy, And
Speaker 1: the question is, should someone in a power position, who
Speaker 1: has the ability to hire, to fire, and to control
Speaker 1: someone's income and livelihood, should they be interacting with talent
Speaker 1: getting drunk with talent, being at Bravocon, getting wasted and
Speaker 1: joking with talent because he's not Tom Sandoval, He's not
Speaker 1: solely talent, and he's also talent on a show where
Speaker 1: he is the producer. He owns part of the show,
Speaker 1: and he controls all the questions that often make people
Speaker 1: look bad. No matter how you slice it. Andy Cohen
Speaker 1: is in a power position on Bravo as a host
Speaker 1: of reunions, as a host of a show, as an
Speaker 1: owner of a show, as a person who produces reunions
Speaker 1: and executive produces shows, as a person who looks at
Speaker 1: casting tapes and tries to decide who makes it and
Speaker 1: who breaks it. So Brandy Glanville was in Morocco with Caroline,
Speaker 1: who is also not suing Brandy.
Speaker 2: She's suing Bravo because.
Speaker 1: Her feeling is that the environment, this cesspool, perpetuates this
Speaker 1: type of abuse, this sexual abuse, this abuse of alcohol,
Speaker 1: this abuse of substances. They were smoking pot in Morocco.
Speaker 1: It's fascinating that that show never made it to air.
Speaker 1: It's obvious why, but every week there's something new coming out.
Speaker 1: This doesn't happen in any other area of entertainment where
Speaker 1: every day ending and why there's another claim against a network,
Speaker 1: and I don't think they're ending anytime soon. Oh Rachel
Speaker 1: who was emotionally abused in front of a live audience
Speaker 1: to a mental health facility. So the man who was
Speaker 1: hosting that, you know, remains unscathed. And so this is
Speaker 1: an interesting time in twenty twenty four post strike, when
Speaker 1: people do have a voice, and when what used to
Speaker 1: be okay in the good Old Boys Club isn't okay now.
Speaker 2: So where is the line?
Speaker 1: And is talking about having sex with a person whose
Speaker 1: job you determine whether they are hired or fired. Literally,
Speaker 1: and I have a thousand examples. It was Andy Cohen
Speaker 1: who came to my house to say will you come back?
Speaker 1: And who asked me the salary I would want like.
Speaker 1: It was Andy Cohen who I talked to about who
Speaker 1: we would cast.
Speaker 2: And who we would fire like you know. So it's
Speaker 2: an interesting thing.
Speaker 1: And this public company has this person as the face
Speaker 1: of this brand, this entire Bravo brand, with all of
Speaker 1: this power, and it's out of control.
Speaker 2: So it's going to be interesting to see what happens.
Speaker 1: As I've said before, no horse in this race, no lawsuit,
Speaker 1: not suing anyone. It's just sitting on the sidelines watching this,
Speaker 1: it's insane.
Speaker 2: You can't even believe that it's real. So I want
Speaker 2: to know what you think about this.
Speaker 1: Can a person in the power position be on the
Speaker 1: same level as the people they employ and the talent?
Speaker 1: Like I said, if it were James Kennedy getting wasted,
Speaker 1: that's one thing. If James Kennedy or Tom Sandoval or
Speaker 1: Mario or Simon are saying something, or Joe Gorga is
Speaker 1: saying something to someone else on the cast, that's a
Speaker 1: different story than the person who's writing people's checks. And
Speaker 1: oh the ninny allegations like it's endless between Carol Nini
Speaker 1: below deck now, Brandy Glanville, Liah McSweeney, Like how many
Speaker 1: claims do there have to be?
Speaker 2: There's something wrong here?
Speaker 1: And the thing is I say to people like Amy Schumer,
Speaker 1: who I love and who I know, and to Jlaw
Speaker 1: who's a huge fan of this franchise, and these people
Speaker 1: that just watch it as entertainment, I say, is this
Speaker 1: female empowerment? Like these are women that fight for equal pay,
Speaker 1: and how do they condone and endorse the culture and
Speaker 1: environment that occurs in this arena? How can you be
Speaker 1: someone who's for female empowerment and support and celebrate this medium.
Speaker 1: Julia roberts, how I just want someone to explain it
Speaker 1: to me, because maybe you can explain it to me,
Speaker 1: but you can't understand it for me because I don't
Speaker 1: understand it. So there's so much gray area in this
Speaker 1: Bravo sphere because you have the executive producer, the owner
Speaker 1: and star of the Marquee show Watch what Happens Live,
Speaker 1: which is the flagship store of the entire Bravo universe,
Speaker 1: that host parties with the cast at Bravo Con. On
Speaker 1: his show, there's drinking, there's talk of sexuality and the
Speaker 1: Lady Pond, and then you have a situation where women
Speaker 1: are drinking in excess, which is the goal and the
Speaker 1: name of the game on reality television, and they're doing
Speaker 1: that on trips and they're provoked to do that, and
Speaker 1: they're asked to do that, and they're encouraged to drink
Speaker 1: for sure, that's a fact, and to fall off the wagon,
Speaker 1: that's a fact.
Speaker 2: And then they get.
Speaker 1: Into sexual altercations or discrepancies or disputes about things that happen.
Speaker 2: But this is the.
Speaker 1: Environment that's fostered, and you don't allow people to drink
Speaker 1: ten drinks and not expect them to behave badly. People
Speaker 1: always say nothing good happens after midnight, Well, what do
Speaker 1: you think happens after forty two cocktails in another country
Speaker 1: on jet lag? So now people are being held accountable
Speaker 1: and responsible for actions, you know, like their normal occurrences
Speaker 1: in extraordinary circumstances. And then you have a man who's
Speaker 1: hosting a show where he's wasted every night on television,
Speaker 1: also provocatively speaking about sex, et cetera. And you have
Speaker 1: him in an employer position. So that's extremely confusing that
Speaker 1: he's he is an employer. He does hire, he does fire.
Speaker 1: He doesn't literally do that. He doesn't like Actually he's
Speaker 1: not legal. He doesn't call from the legal department, but
Speaker 1: he calls and asks about contracts and will you take this?
Speaker 1: And won't you take that? And will you come back?
Speaker 1: And won't you come back? He reviews casting tapes, he
Speaker 1: literally suggests who to hire and who to fire or
Speaker 1: like actually enforces that. It's completely confusing, It's completely gray.
Speaker 1: How could anyone not understand how confusing that is? Like,
Speaker 1: he's in a power position as an executive producer and
Speaker 1: talent and owner of a show that is the flagship
Speaker 1: show of that entire network, and then he's partying with
Speaker 1: the people or sending sexually provocative videos with the people
Speaker 1: on those shows. It just doesn't make any sense whatsoever
Speaker 1: if he doesn't like someone or something someone does or says,
Speaker 1: hence Carol calling him an asshole at the reunion. They're gone,
Speaker 1: so like I've never you know, I've really been. I
Speaker 1: don't understand. It's actually crazy. I can't believe I never
Speaker 1: realized it so clear cut before. It's nuts if you
Speaker 1: think about it. No, are there any other examples where
Speaker 1: there's an executive and executive producer and boss that's also
Speaker 1: like whooping it up and partying and getting wasted and
Speaker 1: doing all kinds of partying. From what I hear with talent,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like our boss is allowed to talk
Speaker 1: about sex with their employees like it's twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: I just don't understand. Am I confused? One of the
Speaker 1: misconceptions is that Andy made me.
Speaker 2: Andy made me.
Speaker 1: I am successful because of him, I am wealthy because
Speaker 1: of him, etc. So we could split the difference and
Speaker 1: say that the executives at Bravo made me. The Christian
Speaker 1: Barcellos who's no longer there, or the Jen O'Connell who
Speaker 1: used to be at Ricochet which turned into shed or
Speaker 1: the producer Kiir who found me at Polo and the Hamptons,
Speaker 1: or Bobby Zarren who pushed way more than Jill for
Speaker 1: me to talk to Kier the producer at Polo and
Speaker 1: the Hamptons when I didn't even understand what they were
Speaker 1: talking about. But they needed a housewife to make the
Speaker 1: show happen because they only had four, and Andy has
Speaker 1: confirmed us in his book that they needed a fifth.
Speaker 1: But to clarify, Andy said no to Bethany Frankel. Andy
Speaker 1: did not want me. He was the one who didn't
Speaker 1: want me. Jen O'Connell had to push the issue, force
Speaker 1: the issue because her husband had worked at NBC when
Speaker 1: I was on the Apprentice and he really liked me,
Speaker 1: and he told her she has to jam it through.
Speaker 1: So she was talking to the executives, presumably Christian Barcello's
Speaker 1: and Lauren's Elasnik it had to be pushed through too.
Speaker 1: Francis was there, but not in such an advisory position.
Speaker 1: And Francis, who I like, she likes me too. I'm
Speaker 1: sure she liked it also, But Andy was the one
Speaker 1: who did not want me at all. He pushed to
Speaker 1: have me not be on the show because I had
Speaker 1: a pre existing public persona which was non existent to
Speaker 1: be honest, but from the Apprentice, and he didn't want
Speaker 1: someone who had already been on TV. This was long
Speaker 1: before the days of casting actresses as reality stars. But
Speaker 1: he did not want me on the show because I
Speaker 1: had been on television before and they wanted just normal
Speaker 1: people loll you know, normal superficial people. I guess to
Speaker 1: be on the show as what were not housewives at
Speaker 1: the time, what were Manhattan moms and it became housewives.
Speaker 1: So I was the outlier, the question mark character that
Speaker 1: they jammed through. But thank you to Jen O'Connell for that,
Speaker 1: and ultimately the entity of Bravo and MBSC universal who
Speaker 1: is responsible for airing content with me on it and
Speaker 1: starting a trajectory. But no one else has done what
Speaker 1: I did with Skins. I did that on my own.
Speaker 1: I found the cocktail, I pushed it in. In fact,
Speaker 1: Bravo made fun of me. They aired footage making fun
Speaker 1: of me, you know, with that wonky logo and kind
Speaker 1: of dissing on the product and the drink. I pushed
Speaker 1: it through in my own way. I was the clown
Speaker 1: that was made fun of in the clown car that
Speaker 1: said skinny girl on it. But I was playing chess,
Speaker 1: not checkers, and I made a full of myself, knowing
Speaker 1: that that would help in hopefully moving product. And the
Speaker 1: truth is I had nothing to lose. I was entirely broke.
Speaker 1: So I put myself in that car. No one put
Speaker 1: myself in that car, and no one found the drink,
Speaker 1: and no one invented the drink, and no one found
Speaker 1: the partner to do the drink, and no one made
Speaker 1: it as a storyline, and no one got made fun
Speaker 1: of at the charity event. I did that myself. Andy
Speaker 1: did none of that, zero of that. And I also
Speaker 1: left when it became toxic and disgusting, and Andy Cohen
Speaker 1: came to my house and asked me, I don't want
Speaker 1: to say pleaded with me, but you know, persistently tried
Speaker 1: to convince me to come back because the show ratings
Speaker 1: plummeted in the three years that I left. They went
Speaker 1: from three million to I think it was one point
Speaker 1: four or one point six million when I left. I
Speaker 1: came back and they went back up to three point
Speaker 1: one million, specifically when we went to Miami and I
Speaker 1: was talking to Luan about Tom and then my Mexico trip,
Speaker 1: that was my trip. So we can reconfigure and let
Speaker 1: the truth get in the way of a good story
Speaker 1: as much as we want in fairy tales and fantasies,
Speaker 1: but in real life, Bethany Frankel made Bethany Frankel. Andy
Speaker 1: Cohen didn't want me on the show, and Andy Cohen
Speaker 1: had to ask me to come back, and Andy Cohen
Speaker 1: really wanted me to come back the third time that
Speaker 1: when I left, and he was the one who suggested
Speaker 1: that I do a podcast because he'd be something great
Speaker 1: to promote on the show, etc. Because he was trying
Speaker 1: to find ways to get me to come back, which
Speaker 1: I maybe not so politely declined. So let's let the
Speaker 1: truth get in the way of the truth. If that's
Speaker 1: okay with everybody else, Let's make the truth the good story,
Speaker 1: cause it's the true story. It's the real story, and
Speaker 1: it's my story. And I keep making Bethany Frankel, and
Speaker 1: I am more successful now by if you're going by
Speaker 1: monetary success, by three times three to four times the
Speaker 1: amount of money I was making when I was on
Speaker 1: the Housewives. Yeah, if you include my brand deals and
Speaker 1: my partnerships MM four times. So thanks, good, no, thanks,
Speaker 1: and sorry but not sorry. Have a good day.