1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: straight Fire fan, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Wednesday, 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: March twenty second. Another banger of a night in sports, 4 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: courtesy of the World Baseball Classic. How about that? USA 5 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Japan a thriller on FS one last night and it 6 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: ends in dramatic fashion, not good news for the US 7 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: Otani versus Trout teammates. In Anaheim, Trout goes down swinging, 8 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: Otani celebrates on the mount. Japan wins a fun one 9 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: three two baseball in March. I can't remember the last 10 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: time I watched baseball in the month of March. I 11 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: don't do spring training, is just come on. I barely 12 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: do preseason basketball. Why would I do spring training? And 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: the games were thrilling, The energy was incredible in my Miami. 14 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: It was just fun, fun, fun, really fun baseball. And 15 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: it also took my mind off crappy news such as 16 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: that I have I'm leading a bracket challenge and I 17 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: have Duke. I spend way too much time looking at 18 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: the other contenders and thinking how I could win, and 19 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: then I had to go to the other bracket challenge 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: where I'm winning. Yes, that's a flex. But I have Alabama, 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: and I really do think Alabama's going down this week 22 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: to Creton in the Elite eight. That's my prediction. I 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: obviously I haven't bet it yet. Those two teams have 24 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: to advance. But if I can, if I can get 25 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: the points with Creton, like five six, man probably won't 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: be five or six, probably be closer to three or 27 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: four because STSU is getting on five and a half six. Yeah, 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: I think it'll be creating. So that's kind of a bummer. 29 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: But you know, multiple brackets usually get you in the mix, 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: and I mix it up enough but not enough. I 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: guess you know. I thought you always thought, oh you've 32 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: got you've done enough. You're prepared for this scenario. That scenario. 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: You do an upset bracket, you do a favorite bracket, 34 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: and then you do kind of a hodgepodge and it 35 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: went well but not incredible. I should add in the 36 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: NBA last night before we get to our guests, and 37 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: our guest is pretty damn good Ladies and gentlemen. You 38 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: know him as LJ. Grandmama Larry Johnson. I know you 39 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: remember the UNLV days now unless you're like, you know, 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: twenty five years old. You do not remember UNLV. Actually, 41 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: if you're like thirty and under, you probably don't remember 42 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: you and LV. But Larry Johnson, Stacy Augman, Greg Anthony, 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: they had an incredible run, winning the national title, stomping 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: Duke by thirty in the memorable Bobby Hurley has the 45 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: runs because he's so nervous game. And the following year 46 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: UNLV was undefeated heading into the final four and Duke 47 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: stunned them seventy nine seventy seven. I asked Larry Johnson 48 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: all about it. He breaks it down. It's fun and 49 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: I talk obviously as a Knicks fan. I remember Larry Johnson. 50 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: He would put up the l celebration in New York. 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: He listened. There is something about his team in Charlotte 52 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: LJ and Alonzo Warning. It was right at the cultural 53 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: apex of starter jackets. If you guys remember them. I 54 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: know Raiders starter jackets were cool, but the teal Charlotte 55 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 1: Hornets starter jacket was so fire back in the day. 56 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: And when they were rolling with Kendall Gill LJ morning, 57 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: they were so I mean, they were awesome to watch 58 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: in the NBA and that wasn't back in the day 59 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: where you didn't get to see every game, and anytime 60 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: they were on the Energy they called it like the 61 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: Hive or the Beehive, whatever the place was called where 62 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: they were playing their home games. It was so exciting 63 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: and culturally those guys were I mean, it was massive. 64 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: And then came the Fab Five right after that, and 65 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: that's when basketball. Obviously the list of Michael Jordan was significant, 66 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: but I'm talking about like the lesser massive super so 67 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: it's like Magic Johnson was massive, Larry Bird was massive, 68 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: Jordan was huge, but then you've got these other guys 69 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: like they were just good players, cool and everybody liked 70 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: them and started to dress the way they were with 71 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: their gear. It was really something in the early nineties. 72 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: And we break it all down with Larry Johnson. You 73 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: guys are gonna love it quick buzz through the NBA 74 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: and they're mostly irrelevant. Night I saw my Hawks gotta win. 75 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: I haven't talked about them in a while. Trey Young 76 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: and company really reeling. And then after the game, the 77 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: Young Kid not Royal, Ivy Jade and Ivy from the 78 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: Pistons had you know, it's like the end of the game, 79 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: everybody's just standing there and then he goes in and scores, 80 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: and for some reason, the Hawks winning the game by 81 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: twenty two. The spread is not in doubt. I don't 82 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: understand why this is a thing. Ivy scores and then 83 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: Trey Young and everybody on the bench is like yelling 84 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: at him, like what are you doing? That's not cool? 85 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: Don't be like baseball guys. The unwritten rules and baseball 86 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: are lame. They get mocked all the time. If Jade 87 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: and Ivy wants to score useless lay up with ten 88 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: seconds left, let him do it. Who cares? He wants 89 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: to pat his statso so what, don't don't give me 90 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: this unwritten rules. You gotta just sit there and take 91 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: the turn over or whatever. I don't. I think that's 92 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: so stupid and reductive. Just if there's five seconds left, 93 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: then the guy wants to throw down or dunk. Let 94 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: them even if they're losing by twenty five. I don't care, 95 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: doesn't What does it matter? Anyways, the Hawks get to win. 96 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: They're basically barely going to get into the playoffs. I 97 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: don't understand what's wrong. They have Hunter what's his name? 98 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: They traded for Sadiq Bay. He had a really good game, 99 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: but Doanovitch played well like they on paper, this team 100 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: is good. John to Murray didn't play last night. On paper, 101 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: this team is really good, and I don't know why 102 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: they can't get it together. And uh, if you guys 103 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: remember Marvin Bagley who went to sacrament Marvin Bagley a duke, 104 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: was amazing, just such a talented kid, and you're like, oh, 105 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: this is a top five pick. This guy's gonna be awesome. 106 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: Goes to the NBA and it just didn't work out 107 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: almost immediately. I don't know if it was a work 108 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: ethic thing or lack of defense. He got thirty one 109 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: last night. Now they got stomped. Who cares? All they do, 110 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: all they care about is um Victor Webban Yama, and 111 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: they lead the chase for weban Yama. But I didn't 112 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: think the NBA was the biggest thing. I guess the 113 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: World Baseball Classic was huge. I feel like this story 114 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: was the most underplayed before we get to Larry Johnson. So, 115 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: according to Mike Florio Pro Football Talk, there is a 116 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: representative for Lamar Jackson who has contacted more than one 117 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: team in an attempt to get an offer sheet. Now 118 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: here's the hang up. The person making calls for Lamar 119 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: Jackson is not certified by the NFLPA. But this is 120 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: where it gets even juicier. Lamar Jackson's guy or girl, 121 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: let's say, representative is saying that he does not want 122 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: a fully guaranteed contract with flies in the face of 123 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: everything we've heard about Lamar Jackson for the last six months. 124 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: Now it's unclear just how much he wants fully guaranteed, 125 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: but they're saying he doesn't want a fully guaranteed contract. 126 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: That being said, the according to Florio and Pro Football Talk, 127 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: the representative of Lamar Jackson is telling teams Lamar is 128 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: ready to move on from the Ravens, doesn't want a 129 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: fully guaranteed deal. Put something on the table and we'll 130 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: take it. This now gets very interesting. I know the 131 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are starting to throw at their pro days and 132 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: the what is it? The Carolina Panthers are sending eleven 133 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: reps to watch j Stroud and the rest of the 134 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: USU contingent, including the owner, Like you know, Carolina is 135 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: going to kick the tires on all the quarterbacks. The 136 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: team to watch for Lamar remains the Indianapolis Colts. Now, 137 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: since I mentioned it last week, it has gained some 138 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: steam and some traction. I was just thrown out there 139 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: because that's the only team that makes sense. They have 140 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: an unstable owner, they have the fourth pick. They're not 141 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: going to get their choice at quarterback. They've got some 142 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: cap room, and Lamar Jackson on turf with Jonathan Taylor 143 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: could be interesting. The line is good, not great now. 144 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: The rest of the team does not have a lot 145 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: of talent. My question is, are the Ravens just not 146 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: gonna match if Lamar's like, I'm over it, I don't 147 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: want to play for you guys anymore. I'm done. Or 148 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: do the Ravens say, no, you're a quarterback, we want you. 149 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: Like I understand where Mars coming from. I'm ticked off. 150 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: He doesn't feel as if they wanted to put the 151 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: money up that he wanted. Remember Dak Prescott asked for 152 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: the world, got it from the Dallas Cowboys. Okay, Daniel Jones, 153 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't tell the full story that I heard, 154 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: but here I'll just say it here. Why why the 155 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: hell not? So? Daniel Jones had his dad go meet 156 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: with the agency. I had a free agency and said, hey, guys, 157 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: what are we looking at for Daniel Jones and they 158 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: came out and said, well, we're looking at this and 159 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: he's like, well, I think we can get forty million, 160 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: the dad and apparently the agency said, well, we don't 161 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: think we can get that, and Daniel Jones said okay, 162 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: or Daniel Jones's father said all right, and then he 163 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: took and went around and shopped with other agents and 164 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: what did other agents tell them? Oh, oh oh yeah, we'll 165 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: get you. We'll definitely give it. And guess what that 166 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: agent basically got Daniel Jones forty Now, apparently forty was 167 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: like the benchmark people thought at the old agency, like 168 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: we can get thirty five, maybe thirty Sevendaniel Jones en 169 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: up getting like thirty nine forty, So he his dad 170 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: was getting aggressive, shopped around and got what he wanted. 171 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: Lamar's not getting what he wanted. Why that, Well he 172 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: doesn't have an agent. Why doesn't he go get an agent? 173 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess he doesn't want to pay 174 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: him the six percent or ten percent or whatever the 175 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: number is from that the report that the agency wants, 176 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones is willing to do it. He got 177 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: paid Dak Prescott, I mean, Mahomes is gonna get paid 178 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: either way. Josh Allen got paid, Kirk Cousins, everybody's getting paid. 179 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: Why has it Lamar gotten paid? Now, some of it 180 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: might be greed, but listen, I do think there is 181 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: something to this agent negotiating thing. I have an agent. 182 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: I've had one, jeez, probably eight years, and it is 183 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: a great feeling when you do not have to go 184 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: into negotiations and your agent handles it and knows what 185 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: you want and knows like I just I can't accept that. 186 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: I won't and you don't have to sit there and 187 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: get in an argument with your employer. Your agent handles 188 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: all that. Well, the agent's Lamar's mom. Of course, the 189 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: mom's gonna be like, no, he's my son's worth more. No, 190 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: you need an agent in there. They're used to do it. 191 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: They do these deals all the time. And yeah, I 192 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: hope Lamar's not getting bad advice. And now the NFLPA 193 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: is gonna be like, yo, who's this guy making calls 194 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: for you, Lamar? And he's got to deal with that 195 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: headache and the market for him is shrink to the 196 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: point it's like the Colts, maybe the Falcons, maybe Washington. 197 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm hoping the Jets can say, wait, wait, Lamar could 198 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: be had. Could we use that as leverage for Aaron Rodgers? Like, 199 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: just the idea of Lamar Jackson not playing next year 200 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: is terrifying to me. The league needs Lamar Jackson. So 201 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: I hope he figures this out. It's at this point 202 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: it's a little late for him to be like, fine, 203 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: I'll capitulate and get an agent. But man, it's just 204 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: it's it just feels like he's playing this entire thing wrong. 205 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: He's trying to do it his way, and I get that. 206 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people want to do it 207 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: their way and it doesn't always work out. Lamar. We're 208 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: rooting for you, dude, especially I'd love him in New 209 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: York twenty six year old franchise quarterback Brink Come on down, 210 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. All right, without further ado, let's get to 211 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: our guest, the one and only former UNLV star, former 212 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: Charlotte Hornet, and New York nick star, Larry Johnson. Fox 213 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 214 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot 215 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search f SR to 216 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: listen live. Jason likes to think he knows everything when 217 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: it comes to sports. I know what sports stands want, 218 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: but for everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. 219 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,119 Speaker 1: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a guy. 220 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: He knows another guy. All right, let's welcome into straight 221 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: fire a college basketball legend. Oh my gosh, who will 222 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: ever forget UNLV curb stomping Duke in the final four, 223 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: and then the next year the undefeated season goes down. 224 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Larry Johnson, those are two seven middle moments 225 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: of Jason of my youth. Right, That's all I remember, 226 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: Larry Johnson. So happy to have you on the podcast. 227 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: How are you doing, man, I'm good man, I appreciate it. 228 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for having Yeah, I'm sure I know you get 229 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: asked obviously a lot about the Knicks in the NBA, 230 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: but I'm sure UNLV is probably when sports fans come 231 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: up to you. Is UNV pretty much the number one question? 232 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: It is? It is? Uh? You know, that team was 233 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: taking off. That team became one of the uh, you know, 234 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: iconic teams of all times. You know, with our shirt 235 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: tails out, baggy shorts. You know, we got in a 236 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: couple of fights that year too. So I guess that help. 237 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, man, yeah, I wanted to start off 238 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: by asking about the tournament so far. What you've seen 239 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: through the opening weekend, some pretty historic upsets, Arizona goes down, 240 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: Purdue gets shocked. What have you seen the jumped out 241 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: as a fan and former player. Well, of course the 242 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: Purdue because you know, a tough team, but you know 243 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: it happens. Sixteen can do that. I think this year, 244 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: this year, more than any year maybe last year too. 245 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: You see, and like we talked about earlier, there was 246 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: no blue bloods in there now, so you're getting these 247 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: team And I'm from Texas originally, so I love these 248 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: Texas teams. Texas universities do well, so you know, it's 249 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: good to see. I think that that diversity is good. 250 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: You know, you never know who can win it. This year, 251 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: everybody bracket is almost broke up, all right? Yeah. I 252 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: saw that there's eleven different conferences represented in the Sweet sixteen, 253 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: which is absurd and the highest ever. Do you what 254 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: do you think that is attributing to this parody? I mean, 255 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: like you said, the blue bloods are basically dead in 256 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: this tournament, right, Um, you know what the youngsters is 257 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, coaching. I think you know, coaching is doing 258 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: that thing, and the youngsters is not just going to 259 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: the blue bloods school man, you're going to Furlie Dickinson, 260 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: got a basketball team and stuff like that. These hesion 261 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: you know that I've said, I'm from Texas. We've always 262 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: been dominant football state. But now you got the high 263 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: schools number, high school stars, high schools all American. That's 264 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: going to Houston, that's going to Baylor now you know, 265 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: to play basketball. So I think I'm definitely enjoying this 266 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: tournament and the most Yeah. Yeah, it feels like forever 267 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: since you dominated with UNLV. I'm just curious. I was 268 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: reading about your you know, you're coming out of with Dallas, 269 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: Texas and you had your choice and you wanted to 270 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: go to SMU but ended up at Odessa. UM. You 271 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: know when you picked you NLV, was there one of 272 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: these like, hey, we're all gonna go there and dominate. 273 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: Did you get one of those kind of crews together 274 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: the way the Fab five had? Not at all, not 275 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: at all. Mine going to UNFV, I had to go 276 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: to junior college, Odessel junior college, and my freshman year 277 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: in junior college, I made a junior Olympic team. It 278 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: was coached by Larry Brown, over to Germany, won the 279 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: civil medal. We gotta being in the gold medal game, 280 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: but we was gone for six weeks, and for six 281 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: weeks my roommate with Stacy Agen, who was already at 282 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: you on LV. So Stacey and I created a bun 283 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: and the very next year, the very next summer, I 284 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: made another USA team and Stacy made the team, and 285 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: we was roommates then too, So it just kept on 286 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: when I got him out of junior college. Yeah, I 287 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: think one of the craziest Final Four moments I can 288 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: recall is the Bobby Hurley won right before the UNLV 289 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: game where he had to like run to the bathroom. 290 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: There was a little nerves I listen. I don't know 291 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: if you've ever talked to him about it, but are 292 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: you were you aware of like the moment. Did you 293 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: see that they looked a little bit scared heading into 294 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: that game? No? No, I mean, you know, well coached 295 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: team with talent, you know the program, so we was 296 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: here focused. We were super focused. We knew the task, 297 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: we knew who we was playing, and I didn't know 298 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: too after the game or a week or whatever later 299 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: if Bobby was running two in front of basketball, I 300 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: mean two in front the bathroom, I had no idea. 301 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: So a lot of guys now we're talking about leaving early. 302 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: This kid Zach Edy from Purdue, should he go to 303 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: the NBA. Who knows what's gonna happen with that guy. 304 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: But then you got a lot of kids, like a 305 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: kid of Marquette I heard thinks he might be a 306 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: first round pick, might leave a lot of this stuff happening. 307 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: And You're like, dude, if these guys stuck around college, 308 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: it could make the nil money. They could you know, 309 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: build something great the exposure. I'm curious, did you even 310 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: have much of a decision after your first year at 311 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: UNLV when you guys won the title? No, not in 312 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: my eyes. I thought the coaching staff and a lot 313 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: of people were saying because that was some talk about 314 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: me being a number one pick there, but it was 315 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: also talked more to talk about me and or Derek 316 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: Coleman being a number one. It was a battle there. 317 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: So I was like, well, why am I even competing 318 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: with Dereka When I stay another year and had this 319 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: to myself and I just for me, it was a 320 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: no brainer. Plus I wanted to try to win another 321 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: championship in you I knew we would be good, so 322 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: it was a no brainer. But you see these guys, 323 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: I've never been a fan of one and done. Now, 324 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: definitely guys that can do that. You got the Kobe 325 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: Bryants who came out of college, I mean came in 326 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: a high schools fair. So you got the Kevin Garnett's. 327 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: These guys come out of straight out of high school. 328 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: But everybody can't do that, and everybody can't be a 329 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: one and done in colleges. So I've never been a 330 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: fan of one and done. If you're gonna go to 331 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: college and enjoy your college career, man play two years, 332 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: three years and enjoyed college. Yeah, you see the kid 333 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: Timmy at Gonzaga. I know a lot of people like, oh, 334 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: we can't make the pros. He I think he's got 335 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: a spot in the NBA somewhere. He's gotta be a 336 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: starter or first round pick. But he's dominated, Like in 337 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: the paint against TCU, it's a bucket. Now they play 338 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: UCLA this week, I think he's gonna eat again. I 339 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: don't know what do you think about it? If if 340 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: Drew Timmy came to you and said, hey, Larry, I'm 341 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: making like eight hundred thousand and nil money. I'm a 342 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: big big dog here in good Zaga. Would you should 343 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: go to the NBA be a second round pick? Sure? 344 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: I stick around? What do you think? Stick around? Yeah? 345 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: Stick around? I mean everybody, every noting. And then I 346 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: want to talk about the the factor of being injured. Well, 347 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: we could be injure doing anything, bro, but you're playing basketball. 348 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: You can't do nothing but uh, telling your skills, get 349 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: your skills a little bit more about it. And like 350 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: you said, you're making nil money, so uh yes, stick around, 351 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: I mean money a beater and NBA is not going 352 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: anywhere anybays. Yeah. Correct. So you come back for the 353 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 1: for the final year at UNLV and you guys are 354 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: steamrolling everybody, Larry, like I play in men's leagues out 355 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: here in LA. I've heard all this about a good loss, 356 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: you know, during the regular season. To get you ready, 357 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: you guys were undefeating the regular season. Um, did you 358 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: think heading into the postseason? Like, man, the pressure is 359 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: getting on us. It's all we're getting asked about everywhere. 360 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure you couldn't go to a restaurant with people 361 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: out saying, hey, undefeated, back to back, all that stuff. 362 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: Did did it start to wear on you? No? No? 363 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: Um a good loss? Uh did you we won the championship. 364 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: We lost five games that year, So it does it 365 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: makes you refocus or focus, makes you hone in a 366 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: little bit more. So there is something to be said. 367 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: If we would have lost the game, then yeah, because 368 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: before we got to the final folk, because maybe ten 369 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: games before the final code, for ten games before we 370 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: played through, coach talk would come into practice and he 371 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: would kill us like, you guys is not focused. You 372 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: guys just you're gonna lose. Like he started this ten 373 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: games before the Duke game and he said, you guys 374 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: are gonna lose. You're not focused. And we go out 375 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: and win by twenty Yeah. Yeah, I didn't win by thirty. 376 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: So by the time he and I can remember him 377 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: saying this, maybe two or three games, but it was 378 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: before that game, so I rive him was giving up, like, 379 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: you're not focused, you're not practicing. Well you're not doing it. 380 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: But we go beat somebody Ohio State about thirty four. Yeah, 381 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: you like what you're talking about. So I can remember 382 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: almost giving up on that point, and we really needed 383 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: it against dude. Look, we came up and I don't know, 384 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: I don't believe it was no pressure with this guy's 385 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: lock of days ago speaking of this one right here, 386 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: looking ahead to the NBA and all that. Man, I 387 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: just wasn't there. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 388 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: talk line up in the nation. Catch all of our 389 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the 390 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio app search f SR to listen live. I'm 391 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: looking at the box score and this is listen. I 392 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: know it's going back in history. You only took ten 393 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: shots in that game, Stacy Agen only took ten shots, 394 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: and the guards listen, Hunt and the other guy I'm 395 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: facing on his name, really good player, Anthony. They're really 396 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: good players. But they jacked more shots than you and 397 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: agben m That's a problem. That definitely was a problem. 398 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: And I mean, did you guys try to lemity that 399 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: during the game. Did you know in the moment, like, hey, man, 400 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: we gotta let our bigs eat inside Latern's good, but 401 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: he ain't stopping me. No, that was the problem. Greg 402 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: who was out general at the time, and we wanted 403 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: the first year because of Griggs general shipping and the 404 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: way he ran the team. But I think the next 405 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: year he was a little bit more focused on Greg Anthony, 406 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, and I didn't get my shot, Stacy didn't 407 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: get what he was supposed to get, and that game 408 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: we were so out of scene. That game went so 409 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: different than the way the forty game went before. You know, 410 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: and you're playing a good team with good talent and 411 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: good coaching staff, you're gonna lose. Do you think that 412 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: there's anything to the whole like you guys didn't face 413 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: a ton of adversity that year on the court. I 414 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: mean there was the Arkansas game, which was kind of close, 415 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: but I think you led like wire to wire, right 416 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: at wire to wire and put it away at to 417 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: him by fifteen, sixteen points. Yes, that definitely no no 418 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: competitives throughout the season. It weighed on us a little bit. 419 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: That definitely hurt it. I mean it's tough though, Like 420 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: what could you do if you're just blasting everybody? It's 421 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: not your fault. You're up by twenty and then all 422 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden you find yourself in a tight game. 423 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: Maybe nerves get a little I don't know. I mean, 424 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: do you remember do you remember intimately like the final 425 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: five minutes, can you break that debt? Like do you 426 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: remember what happened? Not really, I can remember like knowing 427 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: that I hadn't shot the ball too much this game, 428 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like where's my shots coming from? 429 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: And it wasn't like we was in a fog anything. 430 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: But I think what I was doing was not playing hard. 431 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't as focused and playing hard as I did 432 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: the year before. Thinking about the NBA. Now here, I 433 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: am hearing about You're going to be the number one 434 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: pig this and that, So I think I was. I 435 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: was just I wasn't there. So I'm not gonna put 436 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: it on my guards that I didn't get the ten shots, 437 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: did you? You know Greg Anderson Hunt said something to 438 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: me a year ago. He said, Man, that second game, 439 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: you didn't shoot no threes? You know, like you you're right, 440 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: because I jacked up two or three g threes a game. Now, yeah, 441 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: I didn't shoot no three, So you know I put 442 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: that whole game on me. Yeah. It's it's weird because 443 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: you know there was the whole the Fab five kind 444 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: of fractured and never really got along. But it sounds 445 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: like you and your crew, Stacy j Agman, Anthony Hunt, 446 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: you guys still get along and talk and stuff. Right, Look, 447 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: much is the great's greatest time for us because everybody 448 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: come back to Vegas and watch games and do what 449 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: we do here. So all these guys still my brother, Yeah, yeah, 450 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: I love that. So you do end up being the 451 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: number one pick. You go to Charlotte, and I'm not 452 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: trying to gas you up here, but I feel like 453 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: culturally you and Alonzo mourning in Charlotte started something you 454 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: guys had Kendall guilt, but like culturally, like the Charlotte 455 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: Hornet starter jacket was so fire. Everybody needed it, needed 456 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: that and on the heels of the Fab five kind 457 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: of like basketball was always cool with Jordan and Birden, 458 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: but this was a different kind of cool. It was 459 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: like swag for the first for I think the first time. 460 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: Would you do you think there's something to that? Absolutely? Absolutely? 461 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: You know everybody like you said something about that till 462 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: in Charlotte. Like my jersey my first two years was 463 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: the number one selling jersey in the NBA and they 464 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: had I'm gonna take credit, but also it was the 465 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: till that color and the stripes and being a new 466 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: franchise in Charlotte and in the North Carolina, which is 467 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: a basketball state. It just ate it up. So that 468 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: was something. You know, there's basketball and hip hop, you 469 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: know that in hand. So, guys when we came out 470 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: in UNLV and then Michigan came out after us with 471 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: the shirttails out, the long shorts, baggy shorts, the shirttail out, 472 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: the swag, that all went together. So we definitely knew 473 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: we was in that era and what we was doing 474 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: at that time. And then it helped. You guys won instantly. 475 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: You had that first round playoff series win and then 476 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: I you play I think the Bulls. The next matchup 477 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: in the second round was it and Charlotte. No, no, no, 478 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: we lost the big bad New York Knicks. No Nicks, 479 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: that's right next. You guys lost to the Knicks. Uh. 480 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: But at the at the same time, it felt like 481 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: something was popping in Charlotte, like you guys were building 482 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: something right listen. Uh, everybody tried to think that lungs 483 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: on I couldn't play together and we had problem. We 484 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: never had problems in Charlotte. The only problem I had 485 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: in Charlotte was ownership. And it was ownership that got 486 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: me traded. The coaches was fine with me, my players, 487 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: my teammates was fine with me. Even the front officer 488 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: and guys, those guys general manager. I had no problem 489 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: with those guys. I had a problem with ownership. And 490 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: that's why I was traded. And I remember Alonzo being 491 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: traded before me. Oh, some contract to speed and I 492 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: didn't know why that would even go down like that, 493 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: but it was business. Yeah, so no problem, man. I 494 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: thought we was building something too. It felt like when 495 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: they paid you, Alonzo was upset and wanted more. It's 496 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: unclear what happened, but eventually like they trade you and 497 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: you go to New York where you caught I mean, 498 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: you guys had some awesome runs with the Knicks. Obviously, 499 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: I was a big I was born in New York, 500 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: so I'm a big Knicks fan. I think that your 501 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: four point play might be outside of you know, the 502 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: championship way way way way back when that might be 503 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: like the number one sports moment for the nixt in 504 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: the last like forty years. Well, you say you're from 505 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: New York. I was born in New York. Yeah, you've 506 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: seen that that that image that that shot of the 507 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: top of the garden when they exploded when I hit. 508 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: That's my best and I love that image right there, man, 509 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 1: and you know it's wanted. The final just definitely one 510 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: of the greater final memories in my basketball career. And 511 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: you do it at MSG against Robert Ry Indiana. So yeah, 512 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: do you what do you remember about the NIXT in 513 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: that time? It was a different brand, Larrey of what 514 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: you watch in the NBA now. Um, then when you played, 515 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: now that I know, the rules were different. You couldn't 516 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: breathe on anybody. But I don't know. You watch NBA 517 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: now it's like one forty to one thirty, and your 518 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: games were like eighty seven eighty four. Um. I just 519 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: talk about the contrasting styles then and now. I love 520 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: the style. I love the grin and grin and pulling 521 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: teeth seventy four SEVENTI if I love those games. That 522 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: was a defensive game. But you know, everything changes, and 523 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: I have no I love at the basketball. I watched 524 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: good basketball, So I have no problem with with with 525 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 1: guys just being a scoring league. Now. You know, Steph Carey, 526 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: who I consider my nephew, had a lot to do 527 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: with that because you know he took. You would take 528 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: shots to David Sentings and take shot when he fished 529 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: up in the league, and I would close my eye. 530 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: But now you gotta have guys that's gonna shooting and 531 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: let the ball go. You gotta do that. So I 532 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: have no problem with watching this this basketball brand of 533 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: basketball now. But I definitely would go for my brand 534 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: of basketball better than what we see today because of 535 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: the defense. I am curious, like, you know, you were 536 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: a three point shooter for a big guy, what position 537 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: would you play now? Would you be a small ball 538 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: five or a stretch four? What do you think you 539 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: would be in today's NBA? I would I would. I 540 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: would be a heck of a small boy five, small 541 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: ball five, right, yeah, you know, and bring a big 542 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: guy from the basketball I can shoot. The only problem 543 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: I would have with they would have a small ball 544 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: five too, you know, so I wouldn't be It worked 545 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: for me when I played for the Knicks because I 546 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: will always have a big guy on it and like 547 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: my four point player, I had Antonio David's army and 548 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: he was so worried about me going around him, you 549 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So, but today they will put 550 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: a small ball five on me today. So but I 551 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: would a small ball five. I would definitely love this. 552 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: I'm curious, like, do you think there's anybody in the 553 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: NBA right now that played like you do? Like I 554 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: know Draymond is more defense, he couldn't score like you. Um, 555 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. Who do you compare to you in 556 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: today's game. It's tough because you were kind of unique, 557 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: not quite a unicorn, but somewhere in that in that galaxy. 558 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: You know, he's injured a lot, but and I've seen 559 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: a comparison and I'm trying to get it in my head. 560 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: But Zion, you know, looking at like body types and 561 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: playing as small like that, he got to get a 562 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: better jumping. You know, Guys just bagging up of Zion. 563 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: I'd be like, yo, I wish you back off off 564 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: me like that. Oh right, But yeah, I think a 565 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: Zion get that little jump of fifteen twenty foot more 566 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: better than Yeah. I can see see me in Zion, 567 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: all right? And uh for the final four? Well three sixteen, 568 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: final four? Who you who do you have right now 569 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: winning it? I know you're a Texas guy, so I'm 570 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: assuming Longhorns or Houston Cougars. Maybe I love to see 571 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: Houston do it. I love to see Houston do it Texas, 572 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: but uh it's I think Gonzaga been there for a 573 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: couple of times. Now, man, it might be a year 574 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: this year. Wow. All right, So Larry, you are in 575 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: Vegas helping support Direct TV for Business, Big Chicken and 576 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: the Shock O'Neill Foundation. Um, like, what do you tell 577 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: us a little bit about appearing on behalf of Direct TV? Well, 578 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: like you said, I'm hearing Vegas and we got Sweet 579 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: sixteens and Direct TV for Business off for over three 580 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: hundred thousand bars and restaurants and location to go watch 581 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: the games and being here in Las Vegas. You know 582 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen. What we did was myself Direct TV for 583 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: Business and and uh Big Chicken. We donated money today 584 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: to Shaquille O'Neal's foundation. Nice, yeah, you buddy, you're good 585 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: buddies with shaq I would assume, right, that's my guy, 586 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: Manu every time I see him. Now, here's a guy 587 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 1: that's a all Star. Were tenth fifteen years in the 588 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, a NBA and MVP championships. I ain't 589 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: never won a championship in NBA but every time he 590 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: see me, he wanted to talk about LSU and U 591 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: and l V. You don't want to talk about like yo, man, 592 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: you know you want championships in NBA. Nah, we beat 593 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: y'all at you and LV Yeah yeah, LSU they beat us, 594 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: They beat us, So that's all you want to talk about, 595 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: all right, Larry, I might as well wrap up with 596 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: a who do you? With the obvious question every NBA 597 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: player I have on the pot, I gotta ask who's 598 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: a better all time basketball player? Lebron James or Michael Jordan. 599 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, no thought at all, Just instantly, Jordan, Huh, 600 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: I was about to say, before you even I thought 601 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: you ask, I was gonna say, Michael Jordan asked the question, 602 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: whoa no Lebron? Huh oh man, oh man man. I 603 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: mean you know I may take yeah, you asked me 604 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: by Lebron James and Kobe. I'm gonna go Kobe. Wow, 605 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: what's that about? Well, I'm looking at an overall game. 606 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean like I'm looking at Lebron now, and Lebron 607 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: of course he's dumbing doctor. Lebron's a great player, But 608 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: I see Lebron could do some things that that Lebrook 609 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: that like he takes time off. Uh plays off sometimes. Lebron, 610 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: Kobe and Michael Jordan will never do those things. Hum 611 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: interesting all right, Larry, well, hey, thanks a lot for 612 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: taking the time. Man. Enjoy the rest of the tournament 613 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: and continue success. All right, appreciate it man, Thank you