Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: Ladies.
Speaker 3: Listeners, this is exciting, and I'm going to tell you why.
Speaker 3: I had a conversation with our producer Hannah and we
Speaker 3: were kind of talking through just run of shows.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I love structure. I think we all love structure, love structure,
Speaker 3: and I think sometimes some of our best shows have
Speaker 3: been when we have just been real and we've chatted
Speaker 3: about things and we've just kind of, yes, we love
Speaker 3: having guests on the show, but we are going to
Speaker 3: do a slightly different format. I'm not saying we're never
Speaker 3: going to have guests again, but Hannah has come up
Speaker 3: with a great run of show and today is day
Speaker 3: one of that run of show. So listeners, I mean,
Speaker 3: it's going to be a whole experience. Let me just
Speaker 3: break it down. I'm gonna do this one time only,
Speaker 3: and then from there we're gonna you know, but this
Speaker 3: is exciting to me because boy do I love a
Speaker 3: good structured lay of show. So we're gonna start and
Speaker 3: here we go. I'm not gonna do this every time.
Speaker 3: I'd be like first up host chat, but just to
Speaker 3: just we're gonna always start the show with a little
Speaker 3: life updates, whether it's what's going on our life shows,
Speaker 3: were watching things we got going on. So let's get
Speaker 3: into it right now, Kristin. You just got back from
Speaker 3: the Bahamas.
Speaker 2: I did. Was it the best time ever? It was
Speaker 2: a fine time, and then it was a great time. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: So we went to the Bahamas. We were supposed to
Speaker 2: stay three nights, two full days. I was having a
Speaker 2: panic attack. You and I talked to me basically onto
Speaker 2: the plane and into another country. Yes, because leaving the
Speaker 2: kids is hard for me. I did get a lot
Speaker 2: of good feedback from listeners saying that they also felt
Speaker 2: the same way. So I felt less alone. And then
Speaker 2: we got to the Bahamas and our stay was less
Speaker 2: than charming. At the resort that we stayed at, it
Speaker 2: was it doesn't take much for me to feel like
Speaker 2: I'm on vacation, So for me to feel like I
Speaker 2: wasn't quite on vacation really felt sad to us. So
Speaker 2: the last day we're there, we had one of the
Speaker 2: we were with the other half of our duo and
Speaker 2: we all to each other and we're like, man, we
Speaker 2: could use like another day. We felt like we were
Speaker 2: doing a lot of like you know, talking with management
Speaker 2: and trying to like get just shifting things around. Anyways,
Speaker 2: all that to say, we decided to stay an extra
Speaker 2: day in the Bahamas. So Kramer calls me on Monday
Speaker 2: and she says, hi, AM just checking in on you.
Speaker 2: Are you home safe? And I said, well, You're going
Speaker 2: to be really proud of me, and she squeals, I
Speaker 2: feel like you could have been crying. I was like,
Speaker 2: you were like, are you still in the Bahamas? And
Speaker 2: I said, BF, I am. We moved resorts. We're getting
Speaker 2: our redemption day. I'm going to leave tomorrow. But it
Speaker 2: was that was the day I needed. So I feel
Speaker 2: proud of myself for pushing myself out of the comfort zone.
Speaker 2: I also feel proud of my four nights. Wow, and
Speaker 2: that was too many, by the way. I mean, it
Speaker 2: was great to be with Preston, but I'm like I
Speaker 2: needed to just breathe air. I could tell I need
Speaker 2: to be with the kids.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I also just felt really proud of myself for
Speaker 2: like taking the assessment of what I needed and then
Speaker 2: attempting to get it good for you.
Speaker 1: She was really proud of you. We were talking about
Speaker 1: something and she goes or she called me or something
Speaker 1: she goes.
Speaker 4: Guess what she was like, Kristen stated, an extra day.
Speaker 4: It's not like me.
Speaker 2: No, I was so proud of me. The only time
Speaker 2: I've ever done that is when my whole collection was
Speaker 2: with me. So like if we stayed extra a long
Speaker 2: one time doing something, but it was like all the
Speaker 2: kids were there, so something like who cares?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Catherine, I want to throw something to you. Okay,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you want to talk about it, okay,
Speaker 3: But we had a so it was Jolie's birthday weekend
Speaker 3: we went to she really wanted to stay the night
Speaker 3: at opery Land and then she wanted to, you know,
Speaker 3: do the water park or whatever. Love missed it. We're
Speaker 3: very sad to miss her, but it was a great time.
Speaker 3: It was so much fun. Catherine slept over with me
Speaker 3: at opry Land. Do you want to talk about what
Speaker 3: happened the next day?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll talk about it.
Speaker 3: Because it's like, I mean, I don't I actually never
Speaker 3: really looked into actually what happened, but just that sheer
Speaker 3: panic and when you were texting, I mean I couldn't
Speaker 3: even I can't even imagine, So why don't you take
Speaker 3: it away?
Speaker 4: Okay, my heart's like racing. Christen's like what's happening.
Speaker 1: So we were at Oppy Land at sound Waves, and
Speaker 1: all the other kids are other places, nixt other places.
Speaker 1: I'm like, crainsy, let's go have a girl's days.
Speaker 4: Like okay.
Speaker 1: I was like, let's go to the mall, Let's get
Speaker 1: some clothes, let's go eat, let's do all the thing.
Speaker 1: We'll get ice cream, all the stuff. So we head
Speaker 1: over to Opry Mills mall and we.
Speaker 4: Were like circling the mall. You know, we'd gone to
Speaker 4: all name, We'd gone to all these stores.
Speaker 1: So we had sat and the well, actually we ate first,
Speaker 1: so we sat in the food court and we ate,
Speaker 1: went to a couple of stores, and then we were
Speaker 1: in Sephora and I'm like, shakey, it's weird. I haven't
Speaker 1: really talked about this. Sorry, No, it's fine. No, I
Speaker 1: definitely wanted to talk about it. It's just like I
Speaker 1: haven't talked about it really out loud.
Speaker 3: But so which there's a lot of emotion behind that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like it which is weird. Yeah, well because it's scary.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, got panic feeling, I can can imagine.
Speaker 1: So we are checking out in Sephora, and we start
Speaker 1: to walk out with like all of our bags. And
Speaker 1: as I'm as I'm looking out, I see I'll never
Speaker 1: forget the one man I saw. But everyone is running,
Speaker 1: like panic running, and I look across and the store
Speaker 1: and I see two people taking their doors at the
Speaker 1: other store and shutting them really fast. And so it
Speaker 1: just I just knew, and it just hit me, and
Speaker 1: I took Ramsey.
Speaker 4: She tells me. Now, I grabbed her neck.
Speaker 1: I thought I grabbed her hand, but I grabbed her
Speaker 1: and I said, hold on to me, baby girl. We
Speaker 1: have to run and we have to hide. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I haven't really talked about it. So we
Speaker 1: run to the back of the store. I kind of
Speaker 1: remember everybody else like it hitting them. I remember seeing
Speaker 1: some of the workers and it like registering on their face,
Speaker 1: and everyone just like took off through the back of
Speaker 1: the store.
Speaker 4: So we go to the back of the store. But
Speaker 4: the problem is when you get to the back of the.
Speaker 1: Store, it's this huge area. It's like where trucks can
Speaker 1: come up, like an exit ramp and like all that.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's behind every source, so it's like
Speaker 1: in the middle of the mall. It's just this huge
Speaker 1: open area and there are just people flooding it, right,
Speaker 1: But in my head, I'm like, obviously I'm assuming there's
Speaker 1: a shooter in the mall.
Speaker 4: I'm like, if we're down.
Speaker 2: Here to have the lockdown, that just at.
Speaker 4: This point, At this point, I don't I just.
Speaker 1: When did you text me? Not for a while, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. At what point I tell you, I
Speaker 1: have not touched my phone. At this point we get
Speaker 1: to the back, I'm holding onto her some house, still
Speaker 1: holding onto the bags, and I'm like looking at We're
Speaker 1: all kind of looking at each other.
Speaker 4: We're all running.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's hundreds of people at this point, all
Speaker 1: flooding to this part, and we're like, where do we go?
Speaker 1: What do we do? Does anyone know what we should do?
Speaker 1: I remember saying that to somebody.
Speaker 2: And this part doesn't open up to like the outside,
Speaker 2: well all.
Speaker 1: You can see, no, it's to the inside, but all
Speaker 1: you can see is there's a ramp that says exit.
Speaker 1: So there was a group of us it was like
Speaker 1: maybe we go out, and then someone who's like, but
Speaker 1: what if they're waiting at the at the exit? So
Speaker 1: we all kind of stop, we slow down and we
Speaker 1: just all kind of and then one person was like,
Speaker 1: everybody just stop and stand still for a minute. So
Speaker 1: everybody just kind of stopped, and we ended up at
Speaker 1: the back of another store, but like still in that space,
Speaker 1: so we all just kind of stopped, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, this lady was like, Okay, he says,
Speaker 1: we're free to go, and I was like, who says
Speaker 1: we're free to go? He's like the person and I
Speaker 1: think it's like rebokers. I don't even know where we are.
Speaker 1: And she's like and I was like, wait, I need
Speaker 1: more information. She's like he's a detective. He says it's fine.
Speaker 1: The people that need to pay for their stuff pay
Speaker 1: for their stuff and go. And I'm like, that's just
Speaker 1: that's just weird. So we slowly start walking through the store.
Speaker 1: There's like a couple of us, and we're like, are
Speaker 1: you sure? So I start walking out and as we
Speaker 1: walk out to the center of the mall, there's a
Speaker 1: group of like i'd say probably ten cops walking and
Speaker 1: the food court is right to the right of us
Speaker 1: at this point, because we're on the other side of
Speaker 1: the mall now, and they're like, hey, y'all need to
Speaker 1: go that way, and so I'm like okay. And so
Speaker 1: I was like, couldn't we get to our car. I
Speaker 1: don't know because my car's over there by the outside
Speaker 1: of the food court. So I see a female cop
Speaker 1: standing in front of the store in front of us,
Speaker 1: and I just look at her. I go, can we
Speaker 1: get to our car? Can I get to the car?
Speaker 1: And she goes, I don't know. I don't think so,
Speaker 1: but you need to make up your mind. You need
Speaker 1: need to get to your car, get in here right away.
Speaker 1: And I was like okay. So I was like, we'll
Speaker 1: go in here. And it's locked. You know, they've locked
Speaker 1: down at this point. And now I can hear the
Speaker 1: intercom's going shelter in place, stay and you know, hide,
Speaker 1: be quiet, code, read alert or whatever.
Speaker 4: And so I was like okay.
Speaker 1: And then this is when I slightly start to panic
Speaker 1: because the store person was taking longer than I would like,
Speaker 1: and I was like and I screamed. I was like,
Speaker 1: please let us in, and the cops like, calm down,
Speaker 1: she's going to let you in. You're fine. So they
Speaker 1: let us in and this store ran it beautifully. The
Speaker 1: workers were like all the kids in the back, so.
Speaker 4: We go to the back.
Speaker 1: There's already probably twenty people in the back at storage space,
Speaker 1: maybe thirty. I couldn't even you know.
Speaker 4: So we go in.
Speaker 1: There's another little girl who's panicking. So we get to
Speaker 1: this point and finally I like can stop. And we're
Speaker 1: hiding in there essentially, and I finally, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't even talk to Ramsey minus like literally, don't let
Speaker 1: go of me. You know, I haven't talked, I haven't
Speaker 1: done anything but run essentially at this point. So we
Speaker 1: get back there and we're just there for I don't
Speaker 1: even know how long. So I kind of talked to
Speaker 1: her and I'm like, baby, you're being so brave, you're
Speaker 1: doing so good. You know, we just have to sit here.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. We just have to
Speaker 1: be quiet, and so kind of talking to some people
Speaker 1: around us, trying to figure out what's going on. We're
Speaker 1: all quiet. This is when I finally get my phone
Speaker 1: in text thought. I was texting Nick and I was like,
Speaker 1: something's going on at the mall. Please see if you
Speaker 1: can figure out what's We're in shelter in place or
Speaker 1: we're locked down. Well, apparently I look back at my phone.
Speaker 1: I had texted Emmy on accident a church thing. She
Speaker 1: and so my phone's almost dead. So I put it
Speaker 1: back down. I'm talking to Ramsey again and I look
Speaker 1: back and I was like, oh man, and and he responded.
Speaker 1: She's like what do I do? And I was like,
Speaker 1: just call dad, and so she called Nick. He texted me.
Speaker 1: I was like, phone's about to die. He's like, put
Speaker 1: it on airplane mode. I'll see if I can find
Speaker 1: anything out. I can't find anything. No one's really reporting anything.
Speaker 4: I see a.
Speaker 1: Little bit on Twitter. Just put it on airplane mode
Speaker 1: to check in. So we're there for like ten minutes,
Speaker 1: but the thing going off. But I start to kind
Speaker 1: of calm down because I don't hear gunshots or anything
Speaker 1: at this point, you know. So I was like okay,
Speaker 1: and then someone said it sounds like there was an
Speaker 1: altercation between two people, you know, but that's all I know.
Speaker 1: Like everyone's trying to figure out what's going on. So
Speaker 1: then they they're like, okay, all clear. And then there's
Speaker 1: I mean, you walk out of the store and there's
Speaker 1: just cops, I mean so many cops, and they're leading
Speaker 1: us out to the to the parking lot, and that's why.
Speaker 1: I was like, are we even safe to go to
Speaker 1: the parking lot? And the cops like just keep following everybody,
Speaker 1: and then you get out and every cop in Nashville
Speaker 1: is there. I mean, we walked outside. I've just never
Speaker 1: seen anything like it. You know, they have like their
Speaker 1: stuff popped up, like headquarters, like they're announcing over their
Speaker 1: thing or like all civilians report to Pauladines, which is
Speaker 1: across the parking lot over there. Most people got in
Speaker 1: their cars and started going, but then it was a
Speaker 1: mad house because everybody's trying to leave and everybody. So
Speaker 1: I was like, baby, let's just go to Puladines. That's
Speaker 1: what they're saying to do. We're not getting out of
Speaker 1: here anyway. So we go to Pouladines. That's when I
Speaker 1: plug in my phone and that's when I.
Speaker 2: Texted you, Oh my gosh. Yeah, and this pops up
Speaker 2: and I'm not even registering that you guys would even
Speaker 2: be there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean it popped up.
Speaker 3: I remember, Yeah, I had, like you know, Jesse and
Speaker 3: Sydney texting me because the people that saw that we
Speaker 3: were at oper Land and I was like no, but
Speaker 3: I'm like, Cat's in there, right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I mean it was crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, come to find out they're saying it was
Speaker 1: it was a domestic dispute, a girlfriend was basically beating
Speaker 1: up her boyfriend. I guess people swear all the things
Speaker 1: I've been reading, people swear she held up a gun.
Speaker 2: I also saw the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the reports now are saying there was no evidence
Speaker 1: of that, but glass, I guess shattered everywhere, and so
Speaker 1: that's what scared, you know. But then you also have
Speaker 1: to think in a food court, those chairs are really
Speaker 1: heavy and loud, so people started panicking and those started flying.
Speaker 1: So I think that maybe people thought that they heard
Speaker 1: but everybody treated it as if, you know, And I
Speaker 1: think that that's what's so weird about it now is
Speaker 1: I was like, it wasn't a shooting, Like we were
Speaker 1: not in the middle of a shooting.
Speaker 4: But it felt like we.
Speaker 2: Were in the middle, you know, you weren't.
Speaker 4: I mean, you just.
Speaker 3: It's just well, what some show and what has happened
Speaker 3: and what we've seen, it's not like it's in something
Speaker 3: that couldn't happen, right, So that's where it's like, I'm
Speaker 3: glad that all the precautions were taken. Yeah, and that
Speaker 3: it was taken seriously. Yeah, because the day that it
Speaker 3: doesn't is when, yeah, it could be something terrible.
Speaker 1: I mean I think they were there in record time.
Speaker 1: I mean I give props to I mean they're saying yeah, so.
Speaker 2: But still what a crazy experience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was really really scary.
Speaker 1: And then I mean I was like, Ramsey was just
Speaker 1: I mean, one sweet little girl was just I mean
Speaker 1: a flood of tears. But Ramsey cried a little bit,
Speaker 1: but she was pretty you know, she was like doing
Speaker 1: her breathing and stuff.
Speaker 4: So but she seems to be okay. I was worried
Speaker 4: she was going to have PTSD.
Speaker 2: For the rest of her life, but she said anything since.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that night she slept with us, she had a
Speaker 1: little bit hard time going to sleep.
Speaker 4: I mean, she was emotionally exhausted.
Speaker 1: But and then the next night, I mean she'll just
Speaker 1: say things like, whenever I put on these clothes or
Speaker 1: whenever I get this from Sephora, I think about that day,
Speaker 1: you know, and when we talked about it a lot
Speaker 1: in the car and stuff, so like I just want
Speaker 1: to get out of here, and she's like, I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm too young to I have dealt with this.
Speaker 2: Well, she's not wrong, right, yeah, And I was like
Speaker 2: me too, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was crazy.
Speaker 2: I guess I didn't think that was the same day
Speaker 2: y'all were there, Like in my brain, I saw it
Speaker 2: come through. I actually texted I have a stylist friend
Speaker 2: who's out there often, so I was like, I just
Speaker 2: need to know you're okay. Yeah, and she was like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm good. Not in the office. She calls it the
Speaker 2: office crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So anyway, so that was my part of my
Speaker 4: lovely week.
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, dang girl. Yeah, well this is it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm like my update or whatever, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna mostly go to because she'd wrote down there like
Speaker 3: shows I'm watching.
Speaker 4: There we go.
Speaker 3: Let's I'm just gonna do a little light gap on
Speaker 3: that bell, uh, gentlemen.
Speaker 2: Netflix, p American Primeval also Netflix. We stowed it.
Speaker 3: We started outcast on Netflix. It's like the series. It's
Speaker 3: this reality series of these people that group up and
Speaker 3: live in like Alaska to see how long they can last.
Speaker 3: We started that last night and I'm like, I would
Speaker 3: not make it one night in that freezing cold weather.
Speaker 2: Did you finish? American Primeval. I finished American Prime Eval.
Speaker 2: We did too. Would you think I was really sad? Shocker?
Speaker 2: I cried, I was emotional. Yeah, I cried.
Speaker 3: I was sad, but it was so beautiful, like very empowering. Yep,
Speaker 3: so you all should definitely watched that. I started another
Speaker 3: show that's an old show, but it was I think
Speaker 3: it might be a little too You would hate it, Kristin,
Speaker 3: I think it's a little too dark.
Speaker 2: What is it? Yellow Jackets? Oh wait, this sounds familiar.
Speaker 4: I loved Yellow Jackets until it just wasn't anymore.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm only three episodes. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: finished it.
Speaker 3: But I'm also Paradise. I'm up to date on that.
Speaker 3: That's on Hulu. That's with James Marsden Gerald McCraney, which
Speaker 3: I checked. Texted him and I'm like, oh, I just
Speaker 3: missed Gerald.
Speaker 2: I started. Have you watched Lout? No on Apple TV? No?
Speaker 3: Oh, I need everybody to get in Apple TV. Apple
Speaker 3: TV does not promote any of their shows. I never
Speaker 3: know any of the shows. It's a little treasure checking
Speaker 3: is but that's my only date, and then Valentine's Day
Speaker 3: is coming up, so I just kind of realize that
Speaker 3: and I need to figure something out because I feel
Speaker 3: like I put it always in his hands. Yeah, do
Speaker 3: you know that every year person has to ask me
Speaker 3: have we talked about this?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes? I love that still hasn't asked. Oh looks
Speaker 2: like I have no Valentine And I'm how many days out?
Speaker 3: Kat, you had said something in the group chat? Is
Speaker 3: this on the rundown of things? Do we keep going
Speaker 3: or is it something you want to Is it in
Speaker 3: the host chat? Is it in the whine about it?
Speaker 3: Because that's our next section of the.
Speaker 1: Show might be I feel like I don't usually have
Speaker 1: a lot, but I feel like this week has just
Speaker 1: been a really rough week.
Speaker 2: Well that's fair.
Speaker 3: To segment two, so they'll get I'm not going to
Speaker 3: do this every single time, but we're going to have
Speaker 3: a section of the show where it's whatever is happening
Speaker 3: in our life with kids or husbands, something you need
Speaker 3: to vent on and need your friend's advice, because I
Speaker 3: think a lot of times people when they come to
Speaker 3: our shows, they relate to each one of us, and
Speaker 3: you know, not every time are we going to have
Speaker 3: something and it's not. I don't even want us to
Speaker 3: feel bad about cause first time I heard this, I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: what are we like venting about? We got great lives? Okay, great,
Speaker 3: and this is frustrating me with either a kid or
Speaker 3: a husband. And we are all friends. You guys are listening.
Speaker 3: You know you're you're there to'll you know, hold us
Speaker 3: up and you know be there too. So who wants
Speaker 3: to kick this one off? And again we don't all
Speaker 3: we don't all have to have one too, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Like, it's just like each week, you know,
Speaker 3: one of us is bringing something to whine about it.
Speaker 3: So Catherine go.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry to be like the Debbie downer this week,
Speaker 1: but it's just been like last week was a really
Speaker 1: rough week. So we had a friend of ours who
Speaker 1: committed suicide. I won't go into any details about this
Speaker 1: person anything. I've known him for a very long time.
Speaker 1: Nick is probably closer to him now, even though he
Speaker 1: met him through me. But for me it was interesting
Speaker 1: because and I don't know how much I've ever talked
Speaker 1: about this before, but it was basically my feelings around it.
Speaker 1: And where I want event is that when a suicide happens,
Speaker 1: my immediate reaction is just anger. And a lot of
Speaker 1: that goes back to, you know, my mother attempted suicide.
Speaker 4: I think two or three times. I don't even remember.
Speaker 1: I just remember that the last time she was on
Speaker 1: life support, I walked in and I was just like angry,
Speaker 1: you know, and I walked out, which is a whole
Speaker 1: nother story, and it's a lot.
Speaker 4: But when these things happen, am I the only one?
Speaker 4: I just go?
Speaker 1: It just feels so selfish to me. And I understand
Speaker 1: that there's a mental health part of it. I understand
Speaker 1: all of that, but you know, with this story, these
Speaker 1: kids now have no parents because the mother had already
Speaker 1: passed away. So it's just I'm having a hard time,
Speaker 1: you know, and Nick is struggling with it. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be there and I'm trying to be whatever,
Speaker 1: but I'm still in such an angry spot about it.
Speaker 1: It's just been a really hard It's it's hard. And
Speaker 1: as I've seen things and I've looked at things, I'm like,
Speaker 1: everybody's like, and obviously I'm sad and I will miss
Speaker 1: him and you know all the things, I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: kind of at an angry spot and it's just kind
Speaker 1: of a hard I need help with that a little
Speaker 1: bit because it's hard to get out of.
Speaker 2: Well. Anger is just sadness typically, the root of it
Speaker 2: usually is a sadness. So I think that feels very fair.
Speaker 2: Angry is floating because you're protecting yourself a bit, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because it's probably history, I HD but.
Speaker 4: That's just yeah, I mean enough.
Speaker 3: The connection between you know, for sure, is that that
Speaker 3: you're you're still angry at your mom. Potentially there's a
Speaker 3: percentage in there which then goes into the the angriness
Speaker 3: to then somebody else who does right, Yeah, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: but I can what I When we talked about this,
Speaker 3: it's it's hard to wrap your mind because it's like, yes,
Speaker 3: we are obviously very what's the word, Uh, I don't
Speaker 3: know the struggle of that mental health Like, yes, I've
Speaker 3: got my own mental health issues, stuff with either anxiety
Speaker 3: or whatever, depression at time, whatever it is. Like, you know,
Speaker 3: when I was talking to Sarah about it, when we
Speaker 3: talked about it, it's like we really don't know how
Speaker 3: bad something must be for them to do that, you know,
Speaker 3: and where we can go? Yeah, I'm like how I can't.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know how someone could when when
Speaker 3: you're thinking about the kids aspect, how you know, again,
Speaker 3: she didn't have a choice, you know, cancer took her life.
Speaker 2: He had a choice.
Speaker 3: And so that's hard for us to wrap our minds
Speaker 3: around it because we are in a healthy mental spot
Speaker 3: to look at it so like it must have been
Speaker 3: bad or that to have been the only option. And
Speaker 3: that's what makes me sad about it, like that that
Speaker 3: people think that's the only option. And yeah, that's the
Speaker 3: mental piece of it that I'm like, we don't know
Speaker 3: how bad that was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's sad, Yeah it is. And I think
Speaker 1: I'm coming around to that in the sense that I'm
Speaker 1: like as a father, I mean, I have to believe
Speaker 1: that it was so bad that, like you said, that
Speaker 1: he felt like that was his only choice, because to
Speaker 1: choose to leave your children with no parents, I have
Speaker 1: to believe that it was just so bad for him
Speaker 1: that that that was his only option.
Speaker 4: And I do.
Speaker 1: And that's sad, and that's you know, and that's you know,
Speaker 1: but it's just it's just a hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I have been to that place, the suicidal place before,
Speaker 2: but I didn't have kids. Yeah, So I think Preston
Speaker 2: and I talked about this a bit because that came
Speaker 2: through while we were out of town, and I think,
Speaker 2: like I just kept saying to Preston, I was like,
Speaker 2: I hate that something was so bad that he felt
Speaker 2: like they were better off without him, right, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: because I think that's the only place you could be
Speaker 2: to make that choice, is to think like they're better
Speaker 2: off without me, And I hate that for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Or maybe it's even And that's the thing where
Speaker 1: I guess we don't understand. Maybe you get to a
Speaker 1: point where you're not even thinking about that. It gets
Speaker 1: really dark, guys, like you're not even thinking about I
Speaker 1: also think.
Speaker 2: In the position he held, I don't think that. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know how well he felt like
Speaker 2: he could lean in like we like, we're such a
Speaker 2: tight community in Nashville. But when you hold a position
Speaker 2: like that, people have this perception of you. And so
Speaker 2: I feel like, and as a man, I know that
Speaker 2: is a thing too, like that prideful right right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I think that's where Nick is really struggling, because
Speaker 1: they actually had a pretty deep connection and they talked
Speaker 1: about a lot of things, and I think it's like, Han,
Speaker 1: if only I would have known, not that you could
Speaker 1: have done anything, but like you would never know. Having
Speaker 1: no idea is such a hard.
Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest thing I've learned. When I
Speaker 2: shared my story finally, it was like people like, guys,
Speaker 2: you just wouldn't you wouldn't know? Yeah, but why though?
Speaker 2: What are what are?
Speaker 3: Why won't you say something? So if when you were
Speaker 3: in your suicidal moment, why didn't you feel like you
Speaker 3: could talk to someone? And obviously we didn't know you then,
Speaker 3: so I'm just like, why did.
Speaker 2: I feel on the other side of that? How special
Speaker 2: is that? Yes, very there's a lot of big life
Speaker 2: on the other side of that. I get emotional. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: do you know I want to talk about it?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: Sorry guys. I have, by the way, not had those
Speaker 2: thoughts after having kids because I have gotten better and
Speaker 2: educated myself more. And I also just wish people could know,
Speaker 2: like how many people feel this way? Like it's so wild,
Speaker 2: so many people feel this way. I mean I will
Speaker 2: once in a while go on my Instagram and just say, like,
Speaker 2: if you were having like a perception of our world
Speaker 2: right now? People are inundated with perceptions all of the time.
Speaker 2: Most nine percent of the perceptions you're seeing are not
Speaker 2: real life. And I feel like when I've gone on
Speaker 2: and said like, if anyone's having a really hard time,
Speaker 2: I want you to reach out to me, like I'm
Speaker 2: going to stand with you in one more minute, you know.
Speaker 2: But I just wish people could know you Guys like
Speaker 2: a second husband, three kids, the friends I'm talking with
Speaker 2: right now are all on the other side of that,
Speaker 2: a whole life on the other side of that whatever, shame, guilt, sadness,
Speaker 2: like you are not alone and there's people dealing with
Speaker 2: it too, And I hate that people don't know that
Speaker 2: they have that. It really makes me sad, Like it
Speaker 2: makes me sad for him, It makes me sad for
Speaker 2: his kids. I felt the sadness because I just thought, like,
Speaker 2: why does he Why would he think that no one
Speaker 2: would care about him enough to hug him and just
Speaker 2: tell him it's going to be okay. I hate that
Speaker 2: mm hmm.
Speaker 1: And for someone who had a lot of people around,
Speaker 1: so many, a lot of people, and that's scary as
Speaker 1: an outsider who has not dealt with that, to see
Speaker 1: that and go, man, it's not the person you'd think.
Speaker 1: It's not the people that go many they look depressed
Speaker 1: or they look you know, like they I mean, it's
Speaker 1: that was very eye.
Speaker 4: Opening to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Robin Williams.
Speaker 4: Yeah you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well I really hate to go to my wine about
Speaker 3: it one.
Speaker 4: But I'm gone. Sorry, I really didn't know.
Speaker 2: I did tell you I was emotional today.
Speaker 4: Sorry.
Speaker 2: Sorry, that's also honest I said to you today. I
Speaker 2: was like, I'd rather you'd be heavy and honest. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: I just because of our is it the.
Speaker 4: Price that I don't want that?
Speaker 3: But I'm winding so much about it that I'm looking
Speaker 3: at chickens for a chicken coop, like to get to
Speaker 3: have chickens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hereybody, And if you can't, I can't. No one
Speaker 2: will know your reeler has.
Speaker 4: Something to say about that.
Speaker 2: I don't get a rooster, you know, the behind that
Speaker 2: no one will be if.
Speaker 4: You had a rooster, this whole neighborhood would hate you.
Speaker 2: I want first the eggs.
Speaker 3: Okay, my wine about it, and this is just actually
Speaker 3: it's an interesting topic too, but I am kind of
Speaker 3: annoyed about it. So we have a friend, we have
Speaker 3: a group chat going on right now.
Speaker 2: And Alan and I and Alan and.
Speaker 3: I talked about it because it also bothered him, and
Speaker 3: so I was like, oh, and so we got to
Speaker 3: have like kind of the kind of the conversation together
Speaker 3: because he said, quote unquote, who leaves a group chat
Speaker 3: without even saying goodbye?
Speaker 2: And to have him talk.
Speaker 3: About it is even funnier. So let's pind that for
Speaker 3: tonight's dinner when we go out to dinner. But there's
Speaker 3: someone in our group chat that that we that that
Speaker 3: joined our group chat and then left without saying goodbye.
Speaker 2: And that's my issue.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm whinding about, because I have left group
Speaker 3: chats now and I'm gonna tell you a few of them.
Speaker 2: Nancy, sorry is she?
Speaker 4: She?
Speaker 2: Let's tell you.
Speaker 3: But there was a fantasy football group and the last year,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't do it this year. I didn't
Speaker 3: have time and I did terrible the year before because
Speaker 3: I didn't put time into it. So I was like, hey,
Speaker 3: girls had so much fun last year, but I can't
Speaker 3: do it again this year. I saw, I'm leaving this
Speaker 3: group peace out, you know what I mean. I've left
Speaker 3: some softball ones because or a soccer one because Jolie
Speaker 3: isn't playing soccer this spring. So I'm like, hey, guys, like,
Speaker 3: hopefully we'll see you in the fall, but I'm going
Speaker 3: to piece out of this group. I've never left a
Speaker 3: group message without saying at least goodbye, right, So it
Speaker 3: bothers me that this person and I guess Alan too,
Speaker 3: which is so funny. And so we got to talk
Speaker 3: about it, and I'm like, I really want to bring this
Speaker 3: to the girls to see their opinion. Do you announce
Speaker 3: when you're leaving a group message?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: And but we have a girlfriend, Sarah, who was thinking
Speaker 3: about it, hates group messages, hates them with a passion,
Speaker 3: but she doesn't leave them.
Speaker 2: Well putting her back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we keep putting her back, but she doesn't leave
Speaker 3: them a lot, you know what I mean. And then
Speaker 3: she'll voice and she'll be like, hey, guys, like, sorry,
Speaker 3: I'm overwhelmed with the sixteen messages, which respect sure, Okay,
Speaker 3: Lisia says something she also doesn't like them, but go ahead.
Speaker 3: I love your take because for some reason, I'm sorry
Speaker 3: I'm whining about it.
Speaker 2: I don't like it. Just say goodbye bye bye something.
Speaker 1: I mean, here's my thing. A I don't love when
Speaker 1: you announce or not announce. You can mute it. For
Speaker 1: this for what this group child also said muted. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what Nick said, and it goes, I hate group chats.
Speaker 1: He goes, all my group chats are muted, and he's like,
Speaker 1: and I don't always respond. He was like, but I'm
Speaker 1: not going to leave. So we talked about it too.
Speaker 1: For what this purpose was. It felt very unnecessary even
Speaker 1: to just kind of leave. So because it's not like
Speaker 1: one that's going to go crazy, she's going to be She.
Speaker 2: Left a representative in the group, which is why I
Speaker 2: think she thought she can leave because her husband's still
Speaker 2: in it. Also in the husband the defender. I'm like
Speaker 2: the whole day, I'm like, this was a wild I
Speaker 2: appreciated my own joke about it. I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: I will say I actually reached out to that person
Speaker 2: and was like, you know, you can mute them, you
Speaker 2: don't leave. Yeah, And she was like, wait, I can
Speaker 2: mute this, and I was like yeah, She's like, my
Speaker 2: life has changed. I said, you can mute anyone and
Speaker 2: she didn't know that. So maybe we talk about that tonight.
Speaker 4: No, I do. I'll say this.
Speaker 2: I I was not you guys, I'm in a group.
Speaker 2: I'm in a group. Chat. I've been in for four
Speaker 2: years and I haven't seen these women in five years,
Speaker 2: and I want to leave in the dark of night,
Speaker 2: just really quickly. At one I am just leave conversation.
Speaker 2: But now I'm like, well, I can't. I see it.
Speaker 2: It did not bother me because I just know this
Speaker 2: person's personality. I think is that, like, I know there's
Speaker 2: an allergy to group chat. So I just it felt
Speaker 2: like a Sarah Brice moment to me. But Sarah is
Speaker 2: so explanatory. This one really just dipped didn't even know,
Speaker 2: laughing emoji.
Speaker 3: Like you want to be a part of something and
Speaker 3: we're letting like, you know, we're including you in, you know,
Speaker 3: and then you're just then take it. So that then
Speaker 3: I was like, I would say that I think she
Speaker 3: I don't know, and I'll be interested to see what
Speaker 3: she has to say. I think because she left behind
Speaker 3: such a fine representative of her household, she thinks that's
Speaker 3: fine because she really will tell you he does all
Speaker 3: the planning, right, Well, yeah, okay, that's so we'll have
Speaker 3: to follow back to it when we have a conversation.
Speaker 1: Talk about this when we have here though, or when
Speaker 1: we had Macy on about like leaving it, leaving a
Speaker 1: group chat, and if you do that for like attention
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh we did talk about that.
Speaker 1: It just seems like I don't see that her either. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems more like a Sarah like I'm overwhelmed. I
Speaker 1: can't handle it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is very much her personality. It's fair if
Speaker 3: you're wanting to be a part of I.
Speaker 4: Just don't know if I would have rather been announced
Speaker 4: or not.
Speaker 2: I would like announcements chats.
Speaker 4: Don't leave group chats.
Speaker 1: I really don't like if I'm in like a group
Speaker 1: for like a softball or something like that, or those
Speaker 1: all make sense to me, but otherwise I'm like, I
Speaker 1: just don't have to respond.
Speaker 2: Yeah, same moving fun. We're going to also do.
Speaker 3: We're going to do headlines of the week, right, so
Speaker 3: after we wind about it a little bit, a little
Speaker 3: vent sash, we're going to talk about the headlines of
Speaker 3: the week. Here are the headlines of the week. Do
Speaker 3: we want to talk about Bianca nude? Grammy's look? I
Speaker 3: would like to say if I looked like her, I
Speaker 3: would be wearing no clothes all the time. Body is amazing,
Speaker 3: exceptional a specimen.
Speaker 2: Would you? I don't know, I don't know, and I
Speaker 2: won't know you.
Speaker 4: Actually, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I would in Jesus' name love the opportunity to find
Speaker 2: out if I would do that or not. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe I would.
Speaker 3: The first thing I thought was wow, love the confidence, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: that was confident. The second thing I thought is everyone
Speaker 3: has a different way of uh what's that word? Self
Speaker 3: expression and fashion? But I had a hard time finding
Speaker 3: the fashion and no clothes. I also would say, and
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get grilled. I don't care. I felt
Speaker 3: a little. I felt like it was a little disrespectful. Well,
Speaker 3: I'm My thing was I'm glad my daughter wasn't watching
Speaker 3: the show. Yeah, yeah, I don't want her seeing that.
Speaker 4: Person want to see that personally, I don't want to
Speaker 4: see that.
Speaker 3: I leave.
Speaker 4: That's just me.
Speaker 1: I know I'm more conservative because there's so much that
Speaker 1: can wait to see. But I have other issues with
Speaker 1: this whole situation. Oh Cat's got double fingers. Have issues
Speaker 1: with this situation. If you really watch the way it
Speaker 1: all happened, she a looks like she's barely there. She
Speaker 1: looks so distant in her eyes, and if you really
Speaker 1: pay attention to the video, it looks like he is
Speaker 1: telling her to do it and she is hesitant and
Speaker 1: not wanting to take the jacket off.
Speaker 2: Not like that. Oh, I need to read it to
Speaker 2: her jacket. By the way, she's beautiful. She loved her jacket.
Speaker 2: I also has a type.
Speaker 4: Right first, I was like, are they back together?
Speaker 2: To me?
Speaker 1: And this is just my opinion, it felt controlled by him.
Speaker 1: We know, we know as a society that he controls
Speaker 1: what his women wear. He is the one behind saying
Speaker 1: what they wear, and that felt very controlled. And to me,
Speaker 1: she looked uncomfortable at first with wanting to and maybe
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, but I didn't.
Speaker 4: That part of it really bothered me.
Speaker 2: And a minimum she was cold at a minimum for sure,
Speaker 2: so she was uncomfortable. Yeah, there's no way she was
Speaker 2: saying room temp.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think it's his art, not her art, which
Speaker 1: is another issue of it. Just it's it's to me,
Speaker 1: it feels him controlling her, and I don't like that he.
Speaker 2: Should have to go naked too.
Speaker 4: I don't want to see that either.
Speaker 2: I don't either, but I don't think it would happen,
Speaker 2: is my point.
Speaker 3: Speaking of the Grammys, there was some.
Speaker 2: Shooting.
Speaker 3: I had had this already and I totally forgot to. Okay, so, uh,
Speaker 3: there is a obviously Beyonce one best Country album. Can
Speaker 3: we thought when we start with your thoughts about that?
Speaker 1: So the whole thing where just about we're just talking
Speaker 1: about where she won it.
Speaker 3: I want what is your what is your thoughts on
Speaker 3: her winning Best Country album?
Speaker 4: I'm not the best person to ask that question.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: We it's not fans that are voting. First of all, thanks,
Speaker 1: so let me start there. And so this is all
Speaker 1: very controlled by a certain group people.
Speaker 3: So let me just piggyback off of that, because this
Speaker 3: was where I was going to go with with this,
Speaker 3: like them, hate them whatever. John Rich tweeted out something
Speaker 3: I personally, John Rich has always been lovely to me.
Speaker 3: I've always I've always liked John Rich. I follow him
Speaker 3: on Twitter. Uh do I agree with everything he says?
Speaker 2: No? Do I agree with you know? You know? But
Speaker 2: I do like I do like him.
Speaker 3: So he had tweeted out something that said, folks are
Speaker 3: asking me how do music award shows work? Labels, publishers
Speaker 3: all have blocks of votes. They make deals with each other.
Speaker 3: You vote for mine, will vote for yours type thing.
Speaker 3: It has zero to do with who made the best music.
Speaker 3: Thus Beyonce with Country Album of the Year, so and
Speaker 3: he goes, And that's how it works for CMAS, ACMs, Billboard,
Speaker 3: et cetera. All work exactly the same. Last night, the
Speaker 3: Grammys outed themselves in a big way. So I think
Speaker 3: there's the vast majority of people do not understand how
Speaker 3: ward shows work. I did not know how award show,
Speaker 3: how award shows worked until I was nominated when we
Speaker 3: did the ACMs. Now this which is why I only
Speaker 3: really technically like the fan voted ones, and even some
Speaker 3: of those are slightly rigged, But like, I had no
Speaker 3: idea that it was that's how that worked, and that
Speaker 3: labels just traded and managers trade. Everyone just traded votes
Speaker 3: and it wasn't actually about who was the best or
Speaker 3: what was the best. And that's so sad to begin with.
Speaker 3: I feel like it all should be voted by peers
Speaker 3: and not just industry people trading votes. Personally my thing
Speaker 3: now when it comes to you know, Casey musk Graves,
Speaker 3: which is the headline, Casey musk Grave speaks out on
Speaker 3: the alleged Beyonce diss after the viral reaction. First and foremost,
Speaker 3: there have been many videos. Remember back in the day
Speaker 3: when Faye Hill to carry Underwood and she was like
Speaker 3: what and she does that face, you know, and that
Speaker 3: was a whole big thing, right, and you know they're
Speaker 3: both there's amazing, right artists whatever, every person that has
Speaker 3: you all see like they've got a camera on their face. Now,
Speaker 3: you know, to Casey's and she's you know, she basically said,
Speaker 3: you know, she's like, I don't really care. It doesn't
Speaker 3: affect what I'm doing. It's just, you know, I was
Speaker 3: I've always just been doing my own thing. And that's Casey.
Speaker 3: She's very much like she's she's like the coolest of cool,
Speaker 3: like always super cool. And but my thing too is
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, of course she's going to be upset
Speaker 3: she didn't win too, like she should have won, like
Speaker 3: you know, or or lady or you know, like those
Speaker 3: are pure country albums, you know, and so I who
Speaker 3: doesn't want to win? So like, I'm sorry if her
Speaker 3: reaction wasn't all like oh yay, like she didn't win,
Speaker 3: like of course she would want to win. So I'm
Speaker 3: I wonder to the people like that were like mad
Speaker 3: at her reaction where it's like we're saying anything about it,
Speaker 3: Like what would your face look like when you just
Speaker 3: found out that you didn't win, Like okay, takes a
Speaker 3: second to register, and then you're gonna clap, you know,
Speaker 3: for the other person, like you're going to be disappointed.
Speaker 3: So like, well, that was silly to me that that
Speaker 3: even became a thing like of course, like.
Speaker 2: Well then are we going to be met at Beyonce
Speaker 2: for not being over the moon because she looked like
Speaker 2: she had just gotten I mean she was shocked, shocked. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so like then we could equally be like, well, you're
Speaker 2: not a gracious one, you know, like that's crazy. Everyone's
Speaker 2: allowed to be a human for a second, right.
Speaker 3: And I like, you know, the people saying, you know,
Speaker 3: even Beyonce had quoted too that she goes, this isn't
Speaker 3: a country album. This is a Beyonce album. So like
Speaker 3: she even herself said like this wasn't a country album.
Speaker 3: So you know how she got into that category.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I like Beyonce music, you know, and I'm not even
Speaker 3: going to touch on like any of that stuff. It's
Speaker 3: just more you know, to Casey's thing, it's like, well,
Speaker 3: of course, like she would have wanted to win, but
Speaker 3: she wasn't actively trying to do anything against Beyonce. So
Speaker 3: I just think that's a wild and ridiculous headline.
Speaker 1: I think that. But at the same time, and this
Speaker 1: is not Casey or Beyonce. At the same time, I
Speaker 1: think people are naive to not realize how much.
Speaker 4: There really is.
Speaker 1: Between all these female artists, like not like actively like
Speaker 1: fighting with each other, but there's a lot of competition
Speaker 1: between all these female artists, especially in country but also
Speaker 1: in the other genres. So to actually believe that they
Speaker 1: all are really just yay, I hope so and So wins, Like, Eh,
Speaker 1: let's just be real. Everybody wants to win. Like you
Speaker 1: said to Piggyback on that, no one's truly I hate
Speaker 1: to say that, there's maybe few instances, but very few
Speaker 1: of them are actually rooting for the other people to
Speaker 1: beat them.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna say something to Taylor Swift though
Speaker 3: on this. I think I loved everything I saw about
Speaker 3: because she didn't obviously take she didn't take anything home,
Speaker 3: but her reactions she could have like to me, I'm like,
Speaker 3: didn't even look like like she cared, which is awesome.
Speaker 3: She was like having the best time ever. She was
Speaker 3: having so much fun and like just cheering for everybody.
Speaker 3: Like I think she does it the best way because
Speaker 3: it looks just like authentic and just cheering for everybody
Speaker 3: and like truly like happy for each person that wins,
Speaker 3: because she has won so much and she has well.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people take especially Grammys
Speaker 1: very different. Grammys are different kind of awards. Your typical
Speaker 1: people who are especially in country, that are winning at
Speaker 1: ACMs and cmas are not the people that are winning Grammys.
Speaker 1: The people that truly are going for Grammys are I
Speaker 1: hate to say this, but a little bit usually a
Speaker 1: little bit more artistic, a little bit more really about
Speaker 1: the music and that stuff really matters to them. Not
Speaker 1: saying but maybe to Taylor, Grammys aren't that big of
Speaker 1: a deal, like she's won, like look at her, you know.
Speaker 1: Like so I do think that she genuinely is excited
Speaker 1: for other people. But I also think that there's a
Speaker 1: nice competition between all the females as well.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: I mean, and to Casey Musgraves, like Architect is probably
Speaker 3: one of my favorite songs, you know, Like, I don't
Speaker 3: know if you guys listen to the album, but it's
Speaker 3: a fantastic album.
Speaker 4: And she's one has she won several Grammys.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many of that she has one, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because she's one of those artistic ones who's not going
Speaker 1: to usually win at ACMs or CMAS.
Speaker 4: But when Grammy's I feel like.
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, kb oh word shows are hard for me
Speaker 2: because I have I'm married to a few time nominee
Speaker 2: and we go in knowing that we won't win well
Speaker 2: because it's all political. Yeah, So it's just really yeah hard, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I think they I think that that is probably
Speaker 2: the most honest thing said so far by John Rich
Speaker 2: or the most honest thing said about this is by
Speaker 2: John Rich with him saying like they really pulled back
Speaker 2: the curtain here. It's quite obvious.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean it's one hundred percent truth what
Speaker 1: he said, but it is I.
Speaker 2: Would like to say too. On the artist side, I
Speaker 2: think it's just wildly defeating when you're getting dressed up
Speaker 2: and you're when when everyone's walking the carpet knowing that
Speaker 2: they're not going to win. I mean, it's just.
Speaker 4: Well and I think really unfair.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to bring that up because I've had several
Speaker 1: artists I've worked with who are like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to go, correct and then you kind of push them
Speaker 1: to go or or you know what or whatever don't go,
Speaker 1: and then people start complaining. Fans are like, why are
Speaker 1: they not going? They're disrespecting country music? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: walking in, you're not winning, And.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of money to it is.
Speaker 1: You got to pay to go, you got to get ready,
Speaker 1: you got to be red car. It's a lot, and
Speaker 1: so you know, that's that's a hard part of it
Speaker 1: where people start getting mad, why are people not going
Speaker 1: to a ward shows? Oh they're not you know, they're
Speaker 1: not winning, so they don't want to go, you know.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's a lot.
Speaker 2: I do think, Like for us specifically, we accept that
Speaker 2: it is an honor and so we're always like we're
Speaker 2: honored and you will always go. But I can see
Speaker 2: how especially if you've been doing it a lot of times. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's never you right, just like okay, it gets defeating,
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3: Kylie Kelsey wasn't going to tell Jason if she went
Speaker 3: into labor on game day. She goes, I'm the type
Speaker 3: of person who's just going to do it. She explained,
Speaker 3: So my answer to that, in a conversation with my
Speaker 3: husband and I had was if I go into labor,
Speaker 3: because they stay in the hotel and it before I
Speaker 3: go into labor, and you are going to be playing
Speaker 3: a game while I'm pushing this baby out. I'm not
Speaker 3: telling you. What are your thoughts? So you, I mean
Speaker 3: you haven't had your husband. Well, you've had your husband,
Speaker 3: but he's had to like fly out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have him, uh to two times he's
Speaker 2: flown in and met me at the hospital, right, but
Speaker 2: like he was there when you have the baby, Yes,
Speaker 2: all three times. Would you ever not.
Speaker 3: If okay, let's just put yourself in if he had
Speaker 3: a game or whatever, would you not tell him that
Speaker 3: you were going into labor?
Speaker 2: No? So what are your thoughts on that? Then? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I maybe it feels different
Speaker 2: because it's because it's sports, Like I mean, ours is
Speaker 2: just one show. It doesn't go towards a total of anything.
Speaker 2: We're not gearing towards a championship of anything. So that's
Speaker 2: where it would be different. These are like life things.
Speaker 2: I know that it is football in his life for everyone,
Speaker 2: So that's also very tricky and that's their livelihood. I
Speaker 2: get it. So I don't know what it's like to
Speaker 2: be married to a football player, but I can tell
Speaker 2: you that ours was canceled the show and get home cap.
Speaker 2: We don't cancel shows after the baby's here, though, just
Speaker 2: so we're clear. So back out on the road we go. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no like maternity unity.
Speaker 1: I do think it's different. I think that the the
Speaker 1: behind this is that if she tells him, then he's
Speaker 1: going to be in his head and he's not gonna
Speaker 1: perform his best at his game, and it's gonna be detrimental,
Speaker 1: and that is a huge part of their let's keep
Speaker 1: in mind livelihood, Like that's huge. First kid, who I'd
Speaker 1: have a hard time with it. Third kid, I would
Speaker 1: have been like, it's fine, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like by the third kid, I was kind of like,
Speaker 1: why you don't need to stay here tonight? Go home
Speaker 1: with the kids, you know. But first kid, it just
Speaker 1: feels so I don't know, you know, but I would
Speaker 1: have done the same thing. It would be hard, and
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be happy about it. I'd be really bummed,
Speaker 1: but I would probably do the same thing.
Speaker 2: And I do think people are made differently, Like what's
Speaker 2: the thing.
Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say about her, Like when
Speaker 3: I look at her, I'm like she's she looks like
Speaker 3: just a badass, Like she's like I got this, Like
Speaker 3: I don't need you, I want you, and like I
Speaker 3: love her.
Speaker 2: I like I've always loved her vibe.
Speaker 3: I think she's really cool, Like she's someone that like yeah,
Speaker 3: it just to be like a really on hang and
Speaker 3: I could see her just being like, yeah, I like
Speaker 3: I got this. And there's a piece of me that
Speaker 3: like almost like envies that, like because I'm so like, no,
Speaker 3: I need to hear like you know, I need you
Speaker 3: to hold my hand through this because I'm gonna pass
Speaker 3: out and freak out. Like there's like kind of that
Speaker 3: piece where it's like I wish I could have a
Speaker 3: piece of that badassness where it's like I'm like I
Speaker 3: can do this, I got this.
Speaker 2: I'll call you afterwards. Hey it's a boy. So like
Speaker 2: I'm like, true, I would so love that, Like that's cool,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, but that is cool even for our family,
Speaker 2: Like Preston goes back out on the road, it's like
Speaker 2: but that's our livelihood and that's what we're that's what
Speaker 2: we have to do, and I know that will work
Speaker 2: into the career. And so it's like I think, because
Speaker 2: I've been in the career, that's why I think maybe
Speaker 2: it works for them, because she is built different in
Speaker 2: the way that she can even be an NFL wife.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, you have to be a little bit
Speaker 1: I could to be an NFL wife anyway. Right, it's
Speaker 1: such a mentality. I mean, think of all the things
Speaker 1: he's missed. I mean, I know a baby's the biggest,
Speaker 1: but all so at the same time, they're kind of
Speaker 1: used to that lifestyle and missing a lot and yeah
Speaker 1: she's yeah, she's a badass.
Speaker 2: Have they had the baby? No?
Speaker 3: No, Okay, onto ending the segment. Guys, again, I want
Speaker 3: to do this like that.
Speaker 2: I just have to like structure.
Speaker 3: Thanks for verbally walking us through. Yes, this is how
Speaker 3: it's going to walk through. But we're going to always
Speaker 3: end the show with a little life advice. I think again,
Speaker 3: something that we love and that we've uh, you know
Speaker 3: when we went on tour was the Q and A
Speaker 3: session when someone would kind of either as ask a
Speaker 3: ask oh my gosh, ask us a question, or you know,
Speaker 3: tell them tell us about their life and you know
Speaker 3: how we can maybe help them. Again, we don't have PhDs.
Speaker 3: You're not therapist, but boy if we spent a lot
Speaker 3: of time in the couch, so so please DM us
Speaker 3: any questions to the wind Down account wind Down podcast
Speaker 3: on Instagram, any questions that you guys have and if not,
Speaker 3: we'll just leave you with a piece of life.
Speaker 2: So we have, but we did have a DM because
Speaker 2: we asked yesterday.
Speaker 3: So here here it is high ladies looking for outsider perspectives.
Speaker 3: I'm a step mom to an adolescent girl and I
Speaker 3: have two of my own children. There is a lot
Speaker 3: of tension with the biological mom of my bonus daughter,
Speaker 3: especially that she and my mother in law have more
Speaker 3: contact than I do with my mother in law, my
Speaker 3: husband an ex wife's marriage ended seven years ago. It
Speaker 3: kind of hurts but also pisses me off. My mother
Speaker 3: in law thinks it's okay to send picks of my
Speaker 3: family to my stepdaughter's biological mom, so picks of my
Speaker 3: husband and our babies to his ex wife. I've literally
Speaker 3: only met her once in our six year relationship. My
Speaker 3: mother in law sees nothing wrong with any of this.
Speaker 3: She thinks it's just no big deal to share our
Speaker 3: life with my ex husband's ex, well, sorry, with my
Speaker 3: husband's ex. She also keeps secrets from us regarding what
Speaker 3: goes on when bonus daughter is at biological mom's house.
Speaker 3: Long story short, Is it normal that I've met the
Speaker 3: biological mom once? In sixs? And?
Speaker 2: Is?
Speaker 3: And is it okay that mother in law has such
Speaker 3: frequent contact with her ex daughter in law love that's
Speaker 3: her ex daughter in law love from a Michigan mom.
Speaker 2: Woo woo, Michiganders.
Speaker 4: That's I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not divorced, but I feel like the first question,
Speaker 1: is it normal to have only met once? Possibly? I
Speaker 1: mean I feel like that could be normal to not
Speaker 1: really be involved with. But do I think it's weird
Speaker 1: that the mother in law sending all of that and
Speaker 1: that that's not that seems to cross the line to me.
Speaker 2: So without is she's she assuming she's the glue? Is
Speaker 2: that what I'm understanding? Because because those are all her grandbabies,
Speaker 2: she thinks she can merge the world's Probably.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably. I just feel like that should maybe be
Speaker 1: a discussion, like, hey, are you comfortable with this? I
Speaker 1: won't do this if you're not, but here's why I
Speaker 1: want to do it or something.
Speaker 3: I would go to the husband, yeah, and say this
Speaker 3: makes me feel uncomfortable that you're mom is doing this
Speaker 3: and getting on the same page with him, so that way,
Speaker 3: it's not her just going to the mother in law
Speaker 3: and saying sure this, Like, I feel like that's where
Speaker 3: the husband needs to step up and say, my wife
Speaker 3: does not feel comfortable with this, you know, can you
Speaker 3: not do this?
Speaker 2: I agree? And I also think I don't have anybody
Speaker 2: sending anybody pictures and my kids related or not related,
Speaker 2: like that's not up to them. Well, that feels very
Speaker 2: strange to me.
Speaker 1: Maybe depending on if the husband is in contact with
Speaker 1: the ex wife, Like I think it's appropriate if the
Speaker 1: current wife is comfortable with her going straight to him
Speaker 1: and saying, can I have some pictures of the family
Speaker 1: if she wants them, Like, I don't necessarily think she
Speaker 1: needs to go to the mother in law.
Speaker 4: She should just go to the dad.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'll say this, though, there is a generational gap
Speaker 2: that I think we need to acknowledge because that I'm
Speaker 2: assuming that writer or that listener is around our age,
Speaker 2: and so we're dealing with a group of a different age,
Speaker 2: and they really love pictures a lot. Yeah, Like my
Speaker 2: mom requests pictures so that she can just I'm like, Mom,
Speaker 2: you don't need to show you know, doctor so and so,
Speaker 2: because they if they cared, they could follow along, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So it's like a weird. But also like we share
Speaker 2: on social media, so I know that seems counterproductive too.
Speaker 2: I just it's it is just a different generation where
Speaker 2: like I think it's being probably she's coming from a
Speaker 2: place a gracious assumption. She's probably been super proud, but
Speaker 2: it does feel a little I think you're trusive.
Speaker 4: I think she should.
Speaker 1: She just needs to go to her husband and say
Speaker 1: she's uncomfortable and have him talk to her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I actually don't even know who or if
Speaker 3: the if the ex wife really enjoys getting these photos either.
Speaker 2: Think about it where I'm like I wife. Like, for example, if.
Speaker 3: Mike is having a baby with his girlfriend, Let's say
Speaker 3: they have a baby. If Pam sends me photo of
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, no, who would that be? It would be
Speaker 3: how does that work? Yeah, it would be sending me photos.
Speaker 3: It would be like his mom, it would be it
Speaker 3: would be it would be But that's but is that
Speaker 3: the you know, because it would be my husband's be
Speaker 3: on the other side. But either way, like I, well, no,
Speaker 3: that's not right because it's not an ex because if
Speaker 3: Mike was remarried, right, but would be this is my
Speaker 3: husband's mom.
Speaker 4: Oh we're ok ye ya ya yah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Speaker 4: it would.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, i'd like, okay, I'll say hi to
Speaker 3: the cute baby that I see that they make maybe
Speaker 3: one day, but like, I don't need you to send
Speaker 3: me a photo. And even if we were like cool,
Speaker 3: like and we're fine, like I accidentally this happens all
Speaker 3: the time, but I every time I say hey, Siri,
Speaker 3: call Pam, it calls Pam her like, and then it's
Speaker 3: like I'm like and then it's like it's already rang
Speaker 3: the ones and she's like me and I was like,
Speaker 3: I didn't mean to. I was like, Hi, how you doing,
Speaker 3: And we have a conversation and she's so we're all fine,
Speaker 3: everything great. But like even if we had a good conversation,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I don't want pictures of my ex husband's
Speaker 3: kid with his new wife.
Speaker 1: I don't we need to find that part out, Like
Speaker 1: I want I'm curious wife.
Speaker 3: Because maybe they can both come together and say hey, mom,
Speaker 3: stop fucking sending the.
Speaker 4: Pro could get together, but nobody wants these fights.
Speaker 2: Maybe they're together for the second time in six years
Speaker 2: and that's the topic of conversation.
Speaker 4: Our advice get together with the ex wife and find.
Speaker 2: Out life advice. There, I have it.
Speaker 3: We'll hope you guys enjoy this episode and I rundown
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 2: Is this the conclusion of the show, Stay tuned for
Speaker 2: next week. We're going to say bye now by bye bye.