WEBVTT - Redemption Day

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Janet Kramer and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies.

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<v Speaker 3>Listeners, this is exciting, and I'm going to tell you why.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a conversation with our producer Hannah and we

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<v Speaker 3>were kind of talking through just run of shows.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I love structure. I think we all love structure, love structure,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think sometimes some of our best shows have

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<v Speaker 3>been when we have just been real and we've chatted

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<v Speaker 3>about things and we've just kind of, yes, we love

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<v Speaker 3>having guests on the show, but we are going to

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<v Speaker 3>do a slightly different format. I'm not saying we're never

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<v Speaker 3>going to have guests again, but Hannah has come up

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<v Speaker 3>with a great run of show and today is day

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<v Speaker 3>one of that run of show. So listeners, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be a whole experience. Let me just

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<v Speaker 3>break it down. I'm gonna do this one time only,

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<v Speaker 3>and then from there we're gonna you know, but this

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<v Speaker 3>is exciting to me because boy do I love a

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<v Speaker 3>good structured lay of show. So we're gonna start and

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<v Speaker 3>here we go. I'm not gonna do this every time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be like first up host chat, but just to

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<v Speaker 3>just we're gonna always start the show with a little

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<v Speaker 3>life updates, whether it's what's going on our life shows,

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<v Speaker 3>were watching things we got going on. So let's get

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<v Speaker 3>into it right now, Kristin. You just got back from

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<v Speaker 3>the Bahamas.

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<v Speaker 2>I did. Was it the best time ever? It was

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<v Speaker 2>a fine time, and then it was a great time. Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So we went to the Bahamas. We were supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>stay three nights, two full days. I was having a

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<v Speaker 2>panic attack. You and I talked to me basically onto

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<v Speaker 2>the plane and into another country. Yes, because leaving the

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<v Speaker 2>kids is hard for me. I did get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of good feedback from listeners saying that they also felt

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<v Speaker 2>the same way. So I felt less alone. And then

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<v Speaker 2>we got to the Bahamas and our stay was less

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<v Speaker 2>than charming. At the resort that we stayed at, it

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<v Speaker 2>was it doesn't take much for me to feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on vacation, So for me to feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't quite on vacation really felt sad to us. So

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<v Speaker 2>the last day we're there, we had one of the

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<v Speaker 2>we were with the other half of our duo and

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<v Speaker 2>we all to each other and we're like, man, we

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<v Speaker 2>could use like another day. We felt like we were

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<v Speaker 2>doing a lot of like you know, talking with management

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to like get just shifting things around. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>all that to say, we decided to stay an extra

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<v Speaker 2>day in the Bahamas. So Kramer calls me on Monday

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<v Speaker 2>and she says, hi, AM just checking in on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you home safe? And I said, well, You're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be really proud of me, and she squeals, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like you could have been crying. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you were like, are you still in the Bahamas? And

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<v Speaker 2>I said, BF, I am. We moved resorts. We're getting

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<v Speaker 2>our redemption day. I'm going to leave tomorrow. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was that was the day I needed. So I feel

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<v Speaker 2>proud of myself for pushing myself out of the comfort zone.

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<v Speaker 2>I also feel proud of my four nights. Wow, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was too many, by the way. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>was great to be with Preston, but I'm like I

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<v Speaker 2>needed to just breathe air. I could tell I need

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<v Speaker 2>to be with the kids.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also just felt really proud of myself for

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<v Speaker 2>like taking the assessment of what I needed and then

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<v Speaker 2>attempting to get it good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>She was really proud of you. We were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>something and she goes or she called me or something

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<v Speaker 1>she goes.

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<v Speaker 4>Guess what she was like, Kristen stated, an extra day.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not like me.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I was so proud of me. The only time

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever done that is when my whole collection was

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<v Speaker 2>with me. So like if we stayed extra a long

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<v Speaker 2>one time doing something, but it was like all the

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<v Speaker 2>kids were there, so something like who cares?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Catherine, I want to throw something to you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you want to talk about it, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>But we had a so it was Jolie's birthday weekend

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<v Speaker 3>we went to she really wanted to stay the night

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<v Speaker 3>at opery Land and then she wanted to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>do the water park or whatever. Love missed it. We're

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<v Speaker 3>very sad to miss her, but it was a great time.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so much fun. Catherine slept over with me

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<v Speaker 3>at opry Land. Do you want to talk about what

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<v Speaker 3>happened the next day?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I'll talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's like, I mean, I don't I actually never

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<v Speaker 3>really looked into actually what happened, but just that sheer

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<v Speaker 3>panic and when you were texting, I mean I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>even I can't even imagine, So why don't you take

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<v Speaker 3>it away?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, my heart's like racing. Christen's like what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were at Oppy Land at sound Waves, and

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<v Speaker 1>all the other kids are other places, nixt other places.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, crainsy, let's go have a girl's days.

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<v Speaker 4>Like okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, let's go to the mall, Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>some clothes, let's go eat, let's do all the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get ice cream, all the stuff. So we head

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<v Speaker 1>over to Opry Mills mall and we.

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<v Speaker 4>Were like circling the mall. You know, we'd gone to

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<v Speaker 4>all name, We'd gone to all these stores.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had sat and the well, actually we ate first,

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<v Speaker 1>so we sat in the food court and we ate,

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<v Speaker 1>went to a couple of stores, and then we were

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<v Speaker 1>in Sephora and I'm like, shakey, it's weird. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>really talked about this. Sorry, No, it's fine. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely wanted to talk about it. It's just like I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't talked about it really out loud.

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<v Speaker 3>But so which there's a lot of emotion behind that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like it which is weird. Yeah, well because it's scary.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah for sure, got panic feeling, I can can imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>So we are checking out in Sephora, and we start

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<v Speaker 1>to walk out with like all of our bags. And

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm as I'm looking out, I see I'll never

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<v Speaker 1>forget the one man I saw. But everyone is running,

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<v Speaker 1>like panic running, and I look across and the store

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<v Speaker 1>and I see two people taking their doors at the

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<v Speaker 1>other store and shutting them really fast. And so it

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<v Speaker 1>just I just knew, and it just hit me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I took Ramsey.

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<v Speaker 4>She tells me. Now, I grabbed her neck.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I grabbed her hand, but I grabbed her

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, hold on to me, baby girl. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to run and we have to hide. Really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I haven't really talked about it. So we

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<v Speaker 1>run to the back of the store. I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>remember everybody else like it hitting them. I remember seeing

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<v Speaker 1>some of the workers and it like registering on their face,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone just like took off through the back of

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<v Speaker 1>the store.

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<v Speaker 4>So we go to the back of the store. But

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<v Speaker 4>the problem is when you get to the back of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Store, it's this huge area. It's like where trucks can

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<v Speaker 1>come up, like an exit ramp and like all that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean it's behind every source, so it's like

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the mall. It's just this huge

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<v Speaker 1>open area and there are just people flooding it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But in my head, I'm like, obviously I'm assuming there's

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<v Speaker 1>a shooter in the mall.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, if we're down.

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<v Speaker 2>Here to have the lockdown, that just at.

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<v Speaker 4>This point, At this point, I don't I just.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you text me? Not for a while, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you. At what point I tell you, I

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<v Speaker 1>have not touched my phone. At this point we get

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<v Speaker 1>to the back, I'm holding onto her some house, still

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<v Speaker 1>holding onto the bags, and I'm like looking at We're

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<v Speaker 1>all kind of looking at each other.

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<v Speaker 4>We're all running.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's hundreds of people at this point, all

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<v Speaker 1>flooding to this part, and we're like, where do we go?

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<v Speaker 1>What do we do? Does anyone know what we should do?

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<v Speaker 1>I remember saying that to somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>And this part doesn't open up to like the outside,

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<v Speaker 2>well all.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see, no, it's to the inside, but all

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<v Speaker 1>you can see is there's a ramp that says exit.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was a group of us it was like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we go out, and then someone who's like, but

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<v Speaker 1>what if they're waiting at the at the exit? So

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<v Speaker 1>we all kind of stop, we slow down and we

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<v Speaker 1>just all kind of and then one person was like,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody just stop and stand still for a minute. So

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<v Speaker 1>everybody just kind of stopped, and we ended up at

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<v Speaker 1>the back of another store, but like still in that space,

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<v Speaker 1>so we all just kind of stopped, and then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, this lady was like, Okay, he says,

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<v Speaker 1>we're free to go, and I was like, who says

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<v Speaker 1>we're free to go? He's like the person and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's like rebokers. I don't even know where we are.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's like and I was like, wait, I need

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<v Speaker 1>more information. She's like he's a detective. He says it's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>The people that need to pay for their stuff pay

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<v Speaker 1>for their stuff and go. And I'm like, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>that's just weird. So we slowly start walking through the store.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like a couple of us, and we're like, are

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<v Speaker 1>you sure? So I start walking out and as we

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<v Speaker 1>walk out to the center of the mall, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>group of like i'd say probably ten cops walking and

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<v Speaker 1>the food court is right to the right of us

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, because we're on the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>the mall now, and they're like, hey, y'all need to

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<v Speaker 1>go that way, and so I'm like okay. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, couldn't we get to our car. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know because my car's over there by the outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the food court. So I see a female cop

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<v Speaker 1>standing in front of the store in front of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just look at her. I go, can we

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<v Speaker 1>get to our car? Can I get to the car?

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<v Speaker 1>And she goes, I don't know. I don't think so,

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<v Speaker 1>but you need to make up your mind. You need

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<v Speaker 1>need to get to your car, get in here right away.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like okay. So I was like, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>go in here. And it's locked. You know, they've locked

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<v Speaker 1>down at this point. And now I can hear the

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<v Speaker 1>intercom's going shelter in place, stay and you know, hide,

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<v Speaker 1>be quiet, code, read alert or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I was like okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then this is when I slightly start to panic

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<v Speaker 1>because the store person was taking longer than I would like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like and I screamed. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>please let us in, and the cops like, calm down,

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<v Speaker 1>she's going to let you in. You're fine. So they

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<v Speaker 1>let us in and this store ran it beautifully. The

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<v Speaker 1>workers were like all the kids in the back, so.

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<v Speaker 4>We go to the back.

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<v Speaker 1>There's already probably twenty people in the back at storage space,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe thirty. I couldn't even you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So we go in.

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<v Speaker 1>There's another little girl who's panicking. So we get to

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<v Speaker 1>this point and finally I like can stop. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>hiding in there essentially, and I finally, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even talk to Ramsey minus like literally, don't let

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<v Speaker 1>go of me. You know, I haven't talked, I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>done anything but run essentially at this point. So we

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<v Speaker 1>get back there and we're just there for I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know how long. So I kind of talked to

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<v Speaker 1>her and I'm like, baby, you're being so brave, you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing so good. You know, we just have to sit here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going on. We just have to

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<v Speaker 1>be quiet, and so kind of talking to some people

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<v Speaker 1>around us, trying to figure out what's going on. We're

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<v Speaker 1>all quiet. This is when I finally get my phone

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<v Speaker 1>in text thought. I was texting Nick and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>something's going on at the mall. Please see if you

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<v Speaker 1>can figure out what's We're in shelter in place or

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<v Speaker 1>we're locked down. Well, apparently I look back at my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I had texted Emmy on accident a church thing. She

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<v Speaker 1>and so my phone's almost dead. So I put it

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<v Speaker 1>back down. I'm talking to Ramsey again and I look

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<v Speaker 1>back and I was like, oh man, and and he responded.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like what do I do? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>just call dad, and so she called Nick. He texted me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, phone's about to die. He's like, put

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<v Speaker 1>it on airplane mode. I'll see if I can find

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<v Speaker 1>anything out. I can't find anything. No one's really reporting anything.

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<v Speaker 4>I see a.

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<v Speaker 1>Little bit on Twitter. Just put it on airplane mode

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<v Speaker 1>to check in. So we're there for like ten minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>but the thing going off. But I start to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of calm down because I don't hear gunshots or anything

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, you know. So I was like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then someone said it sounds like there was an

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<v Speaker 1>altercation between two people, you know, but that's all I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like everyone's trying to figure out what's going on. So

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<v Speaker 1>then they they're like, okay, all clear. And then there's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you walk out of the store and there's

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<v Speaker 1>just cops, I mean so many cops, and they're leading

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<v Speaker 1>us out to the to the parking lot, and that's why.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, are we even safe to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the parking lot? And the cops like just keep following everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you get out and every cop in Nashville

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<v Speaker 1>is there. I mean, we walked outside. I've just never

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<v Speaker 1>seen anything like it. You know, they have like their

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<v Speaker 1>stuff popped up, like headquarters, like they're announcing over their

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<v Speaker 1>thing or like all civilians report to Pauladines, which is

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<v Speaker 1>across the parking lot over there. Most people got in

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<v Speaker 1>their cars and started going, but then it was a

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<v Speaker 1>mad house because everybody's trying to leave and everybody. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, baby, let's just go to Puladines. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what they're saying to do. We're not getting out of

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<v Speaker 1>here anyway. So we go to Pouladines. That's when I

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<v Speaker 1>plug in my phone and that's when I.

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<v Speaker 2>Texted you, Oh my gosh. Yeah, and this pops up

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not even registering that you guys would even

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<v Speaker 2>be there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I mean it popped up.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember, Yeah, I had, like you know, Jesse and

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<v Speaker 3>Sydney texting me because the people that saw that we

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<v Speaker 3>were at oper Land and I was like no, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, Cat's in there, right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like, I mean it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come to find out they're saying it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was a domestic dispute, a girlfriend was basically beating

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<v Speaker 1>up her boyfriend. I guess people swear all the things

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<v Speaker 1>I've been reading, people swear she held up a gun.

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<v Speaker 2>I also saw the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the reports now are saying there was no evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of that, but glass, I guess shattered everywhere, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that's what scared, you know. But then you also have

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<v Speaker 1>to think in a food court, those chairs are really

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<v Speaker 1>heavy and loud, so people started panicking and those started flying.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that maybe people thought that they heard

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<v Speaker 1>but everybody treated it as if, you know, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's what's so weird about it now is

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, it wasn't a shooting, Like we were

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<v Speaker 1>not in the middle of a shooting.

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<v Speaker 4>But it felt like we.

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<v Speaker 2>Were in the middle, you know, you weren't.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you just.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just well, what some show and what has happened

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<v Speaker 3>and what we've seen, it's not like it's in something

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<v Speaker 3>that couldn't happen, right, So that's where it's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>glad that all the precautions were taken. Yeah, and that

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<v Speaker 3>it was taken seriously. Yeah, because the day that it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't is when, yeah, it could be something terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think they were there in record time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I give props to I mean they're saying yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 2>But still what a crazy experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was. It was really really scary.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I mean I was like, Ramsey was just

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, one sweet little girl was just I mean

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<v Speaker 1>a flood of tears. But Ramsey cried a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was pretty you know, she was like doing

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<v Speaker 1>her breathing and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So but she seems to be okay. I was worried

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<v Speaker 4>she was going to have PTSD.

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<v Speaker 2>For the rest of her life, but she said anything since.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that night she slept with us, she had a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit hard time going to sleep.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, she was emotionally exhausted.

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<v Speaker 1>But and then the next night, I mean she'll just

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<v Speaker 1>say things like, whenever I put on these clothes or

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<v Speaker 1>whenever I get this from Sephora, I think about that day,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and when we talked about it a lot

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<v Speaker 1>in the car and stuff, so like I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of here, and she's like, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm too young to I have dealt with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she's not wrong, right, yeah, And I was like

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<v Speaker 2>me too, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It was crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I didn't think that was the same day

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<v Speaker 2>y'all were there, Like in my brain, I saw it

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<v Speaker 2>come through. I actually texted I have a stylist friend

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<v Speaker 2>who's out there often, so I was like, I just

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<v Speaker 2>need to know you're okay. Yeah, and she was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good. Not in the office. She calls it the

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<v Speaker 2>office crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So anyway, so that was my part of my

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<v Speaker 4>lovely week.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry, dang girl. Yeah, well this is it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm like my update or whatever, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna mostly go to because she'd wrote down there like

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<v Speaker 3>shows I'm watching.

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<v Speaker 4>There we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's I'm just gonna do a little light gap on

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<v Speaker 3>that bell, uh, gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 2>Netflix, p American Primeval also Netflix. We stowed it.

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<v Speaker 3>We started outcast on Netflix. It's like the series. It's

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<v Speaker 3>this reality series of these people that group up and

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<v Speaker 3>live in like Alaska to see how long they can last.

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<v Speaker 3>We started that last night and I'm like, I would

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<v Speaker 3>not make it one night in that freezing cold weather.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you finish? American Primeval. I finished American Prime Eval.

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<v Speaker 2>We did too. Would you think I was really sad? Shocker?

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<v Speaker 2>I cried, I was emotional. Yeah, I cried.

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<v Speaker 3>I was sad, but it was so beautiful, like very empowering. Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>so you all should definitely watched that. I started another

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<v Speaker 3>show that's an old show, but it was I think

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<v Speaker 3>it might be a little too You would hate it, Kristin,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a little too dark.

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<v Speaker 2>What is it? Yellow Jackets? Oh wait, this sounds familiar.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved Yellow Jackets until it just wasn't anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm only three episodes. I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 2>finished it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm also Paradise. I'm up to date on that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's on Hulu. That's with James Marsden Gerald McCraney, which

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<v Speaker 3>I checked. Texted him and I'm like, oh, I just

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<v Speaker 3>missed Gerald.

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<v Speaker 2>I started. Have you watched Lout? No on Apple TV? No?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I need everybody to get in Apple TV. Apple

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<v Speaker 3>TV does not promote any of their shows. I never

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<v Speaker 3>know any of the shows. It's a little treasure checking

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<v Speaker 3>is but that's my only date, and then Valentine's Day

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<v Speaker 3>is coming up, so I just kind of realize that

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<v Speaker 3>and I need to figure something out because I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I put it always in his hands. Yeah, do

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<v Speaker 3>you know that every year person has to ask me

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<v Speaker 3>have we talked about this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Yes? I love that still hasn't asked. Oh looks

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<v Speaker 2>like I have no Valentine And I'm how many days out?

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<v Speaker 3>Kat, you had said something in the group chat? Is

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<v Speaker 3>this on the rundown of things? Do we keep going

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<v Speaker 3>or is it something you want to Is it in

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<v Speaker 3>the host chat? Is it in the whine about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Because that's our next section of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Show might be I feel like I don't usually have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, but I feel like this week has just

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<v Speaker 1>been a really rough week.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's fair.

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<v Speaker 3>To segment two, so they'll get I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>do this every single time, but we're going to have

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<v Speaker 3>a section of the show where it's whatever is happening

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<v Speaker 3>in our life with kids or husbands, something you need

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<v Speaker 3>to vent on and need your friend's advice, because I

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<v Speaker 3>think a lot of times people when they come to

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<v Speaker 3>our shows, they relate to each one of us, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, not every time are we going to have

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<v Speaker 3>something and it's not. I don't even want us to

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<v Speaker 3>feel bad about cause first time I heard this, I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>what are we like venting about? We got great lives? Okay, great,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is frustrating me with either a kid or

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<v Speaker 3>a husband. And we are all friends. You guys are listening.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you're you're there to'll you know, hold us

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<v Speaker 3>up and you know be there too. So who wants

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<v Speaker 3>to kick this one off? And again we don't all

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<v Speaker 3>we don't all have to have one too, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. Like, it's just like each week, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one of us is bringing something to whine about it.

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<v Speaker 3>So Catherine go.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm sorry to be like the Debbie downer this week,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just been like last week was a really

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<v Speaker 1>rough week. So we had a friend of ours who

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<v Speaker 1>committed suicide. I won't go into any details about this

0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:55.520
<v Speaker 1>person anything. I've known him for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick is probably closer to him now, even though he

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<v Speaker 1>met him through me. But for me it was interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because and I don't know how much I've ever talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this before, but it was basically my feelings around it.

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<v Speaker 1>And where I want event is that when a suicide happens,

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<v Speaker 1>my immediate reaction is just anger. And a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>that goes back to, you know, my mother attempted suicide.

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<v Speaker 4>I think two or three times. I don't even remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember that the last time she was on

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<v Speaker 1>life support, I walked in and I was just like angry,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I walked out, which is a whole

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<v Speaker 1>nother story, and it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>But when these things happen, am I the only one?

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<v Speaker 4>I just go?

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<v Speaker 1>It just feels so selfish to me. And I understand

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a mental health part of it. I understand

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<v Speaker 1>all of that, but you know, with this story, these

0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.760
<v Speaker 1>kids now have no parents because the mother had already

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<v Speaker 1>passed away. So it's just I'm having a hard time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and Nick is struggling with it. But I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to be there and I'm trying to be whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm still in such an angry spot about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just been a really hard It's it's hard. And

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<v Speaker 1>as I've seen things and I've looked at things, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's like, and obviously I'm sad and I will miss

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<v Speaker 1>him and you know all the things, I'm just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of at an angry spot and it's just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a hard I need help with that a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit because it's hard to get out of.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Anger is just sadness typically, the root of it

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<v Speaker 2>usually is a sadness. So I think that feels very fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Angry is floating because you're protecting yourself a bit, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's probably history, I HD but.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just yeah, I mean enough.

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<v Speaker 3>The connection between you know, for sure, is that that

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<v Speaker 3>you're you're still angry at your mom. Potentially there's a

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<v Speaker 3>percentage in there which then goes into the the angriness

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<v Speaker 3>to then somebody else who does right, Yeah, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but I can what I When we talked about this,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's hard to wrap your mind because it's like, yes,

0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:10.320
<v Speaker 3>we are obviously very what's the word, Uh, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know the struggle of that mental health Like, yes, I've

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<v Speaker 3>got my own mental health issues, stuff with either anxiety

0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:20.720
<v Speaker 3>or whatever, depression at time, whatever it is. Like, you know,

0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:22.399
<v Speaker 3>when I was talking to Sarah about it, when we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about it, it's like we really don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>bad something must be for them to do that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and where we can go? Yeah, I'm like how I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't know how someone could when when

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<v Speaker 3>you're thinking about the kids aspect, how you know, again,

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<v Speaker 3>she didn't have a choice, you know, cancer took her life.

0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:44.040
<v Speaker 2>He had a choice.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's hard for us to wrap our minds

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<v Speaker 3>around it because we are in a healthy mental spot

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<v Speaker 3>to look at it so like it must have been

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<v Speaker 3>bad or that to have been the only option. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's what makes me sad about it, like that that

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<v Speaker 3>people think that's the only option. And yeah, that's the

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<v Speaker 3>mental piece of it that I'm like, we don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how bad that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that's sad, Yeah it is. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming around to that in the sense that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like as a father, I mean, I have to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that it was so bad that, like you said, that

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<v Speaker 1>he felt like that was his only choice, because to

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<v Speaker 1>choose to leave your children with no parents, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that it was just so bad for him

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<v Speaker 1>that that that was his only option.

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<v Speaker 4>And I do.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's sad, and that's you know, and that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just it's just a hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I have been to that place, the suicidal place before,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't have kids. Yeah, So I think Preston

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<v Speaker 2>and I talked about this a bit because that came

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<v Speaker 2>through while we were out of town, and I think,

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<v Speaker 2>like I just kept saying to Preston, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that something was so bad that he felt

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<v Speaker 2>like they were better off without him, right, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that's the only place you could be

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<v Speaker 2>to make that choice, is to think like they're better

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<v Speaker 2>off without me, And I hate that for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Or maybe it's even And that's the thing where

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we don't understand. Maybe you get to a

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<v Speaker 1>point where you're not even thinking about that. It gets

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<v Speaker 1>really dark, guys, like you're not even thinking about I

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<v Speaker 1>also think.

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<v Speaker 2>In the position he held, I don't think that. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't know how well he felt like

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<v Speaker 2>he could lean in like we like, we're such a

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<v Speaker 2>tight community in Nashville. But when you hold a position

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<v Speaker 2>like that, people have this perception of you. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, and as a man, I know that

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<v Speaker 2>is a thing too, like that prideful right right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's where Nick is really struggling, because

0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 1>they actually had a pretty deep connection and they talked

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of things, and I think it's like, Han,

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<v Speaker 1>if only I would have known, not that you could

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<v Speaker 1>have done anything, but like you would never know. Having

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<v Speaker 1>no idea is such a hard.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the biggest thing I've learned. When I

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<v Speaker 2>shared my story finally, it was like people like, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>you just wouldn't you wouldn't know? Yeah, but why though?

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:12.520
<v Speaker 2>What are what are?

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<v Speaker 3>Why won't you say something? So if when you were

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<v Speaker 3>in your suicidal moment, why didn't you feel like you

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<v Speaker 3>could talk to someone? And obviously we didn't know you then,

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 3>so I'm just like, why did.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel on the other side of that? How special

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.480
<v Speaker 2>is that? Yes, very there's a lot of big life

0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:30.480
<v Speaker 2>on the other side of that. I get emotional. I'm sorry,

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:31.479
<v Speaker 2>do you know I want to talk about it?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry guys. I have, by the way, not had those

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts after having kids because I have gotten better and

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<v Speaker 2>educated myself more. And I also just wish people could know,

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:51.400
<v Speaker 2>like how many people feel this way? Like it's so wild,

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:56.120
<v Speaker 2>so many people feel this way. I mean I will

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<v Speaker 2>once in a while go on my Instagram and just say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you were having like a perception of our world

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:05.240
<v Speaker 2>right now? People are inundated with perceptions all of the time.

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Most nine percent of the perceptions you're seeing are not

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<v Speaker 2>real life. And I feel like when I've gone on

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<v Speaker 2>and said like, if anyone's having a really hard time,

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to reach out to me, like I'm

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 2>going to stand with you in one more minute, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just wish people could know you Guys like

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<v Speaker 2>a second husband, three kids, the friends I'm talking with

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<v Speaker 2>right now are all on the other side of that,

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<v Speaker 2>a whole life on the other side of that whatever, shame, guilt, sadness,

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:39.399
<v Speaker 2>like you are not alone and there's people dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>it too, And I hate that people don't know that

0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:45.119
<v Speaker 2>they have that. It really makes me sad, Like it

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:46.720
<v Speaker 2>makes me sad for him, It makes me sad for

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<v Speaker 2>his kids. I felt the sadness because I just thought, like,

0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 2>why does he Why would he think that no one

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<v Speaker 2>would care about him enough to hug him and just

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<v Speaker 2>tell him it's going to be okay. I hate that

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<v Speaker 2>mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>And for someone who had a lot of people around,

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<v Speaker 1>so many, a lot of people, and that's scary as

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<v Speaker 1>an outsider who has not dealt with that, to see

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<v Speaker 1>that and go, man, it's not the person you'd think.

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 1>It's not the people that go many they look depressed

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 1>or they look you know, like they I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>that was very eye.

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<v Speaker 4>Opening to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean Robin Williams.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I really hate to go to my wine about

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:32.879
<v Speaker 3>it one.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm gone. Sorry, I really didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I did tell you I was emotional today.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, that's also honest I said to you today. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'd rather you'd be heavy and honest. Yeah, okay,

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 2>I just because of our is it the.

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<v Speaker 4>Price that I don't want that?

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 3>But I'm winding so much about it that I'm looking

0:25:56.800 --> 0:25:59.399
<v Speaker 3>at chickens for a chicken coop, like to get to

0:25:59.440 --> 0:25:59.919
<v Speaker 3>have chickens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hereybody, And if you can't, I can't. No one

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 2>will know your reeler has.

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<v Speaker 4>Something to say about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get a rooster, you know, the behind that

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<v Speaker 2>no one will be if.

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:15.400
<v Speaker 4>You had a rooster, this whole neighborhood would hate you.

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 2>I want first the eggs.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, my wine about it, and this is just actually

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 3>it's an interesting topic too, but I am kind of

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<v Speaker 3>annoyed about it. So we have a friend, we have

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<v Speaker 3>a group chat going on right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And Alan and I and Alan and.

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<v Speaker 3>I talked about it because it also bothered him, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I was like, oh, and so we got to

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<v Speaker 3>have like kind of the kind of the conversation together

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 3>because he said, quote unquote, who leaves a group chat

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<v Speaker 3>without even saying goodbye?

0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 2>And to have him talk.

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.679
<v Speaker 3>About it is even funnier. So let's pind that for

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 3>tonight's dinner when we go out to dinner. But there's

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 3>someone in our group chat that that we that that

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:11.400
<v Speaker 3>joined our group chat and then left without saying goodbye.

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 2>And that's my issue.

0:27:12.640 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm whinding about, because I have left group

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<v Speaker 3>chats now and I'm gonna tell you a few of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Nancy, sorry is she?

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 4>She?

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Let's tell you.

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 3>But there was a fantasy football group and the last year,

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I can't do it this year. I didn't

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 3>have time and I did terrible the year before because

0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 3>I didn't put time into it. So I was like, hey,

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:37.920
<v Speaker 3>girls had so much fun last year, but I can't

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 3>do it again this year. I saw, I'm leaving this

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 3>group peace out, you know what I mean. I've left

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 3>some softball ones because or a soccer one because Jolie

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.600
<v Speaker 3>isn't playing soccer this spring. So I'm like, hey, guys, like,

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:49.199
<v Speaker 3>hopefully we'll see you in the fall, but I'm going

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:51.679
<v Speaker 3>to piece out of this group. I've never left a

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 3>group message without saying at least goodbye, right, So it

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 3>bothers me that this person and I guess Alan too,

0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 3>which is so funny. And so we got to talk

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 3>about it, and I'm like, I really want to bring this

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 3>to the girls to see their opinion. Do you announce

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 3>when you're leaving a group message?

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:09.439
<v Speaker 4>Okay?

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 3>And but we have a girlfriend, Sarah, who was thinking

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 3>about it, hates group messages, hates them with a passion,

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 3>but she doesn't leave them.

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<v Speaker 2>Well putting her back.

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we keep putting her back, but she doesn't leave

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:24.959
<v Speaker 3>them a lot, you know what I mean. And then

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 3>she'll voice and she'll be like, hey, guys, like, sorry,

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm overwhelmed with the sixteen messages, which respect sure, Okay,

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 3>Lisia says something she also doesn't like them, but go ahead.

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.120
<v Speaker 3>I love your take because for some reason, I'm sorry

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm whining about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like it. Just say goodbye bye bye something.

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, here's my thing. A I don't love when

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>you announce or not announce. You can mute it. For

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 1>this for what this group child also said muted. Well,

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what Nick said, and it goes, I hate group chats.

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 1>He goes, all my group chats are muted, and he's like,

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>and I don't always respond. He was like, but I'm

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 1>not going to leave. So we talked about it too.

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>For what this purpose was. It felt very unnecessary even

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 1>to just kind of leave. So because it's not like

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>one that's going to go crazy, she's going to be She.

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Left a representative in the group, which is why I

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 2>think she thought she can leave because her husband's still

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>in it. Also in the husband the defender. I'm like

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 2>the whole day, I'm like, this was a wild I

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 2>appreciated my own joke about it. I was like, oh, okay,

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 2>I will say I actually reached out to that person

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>and was like, you know, you can mute them, you

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>don't leave. Yeah, And she was like, wait, I can

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 2>mute this, and I was like yeah, She's like, my

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 2>life has changed. I said, you can mute anyone and

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 2>she didn't know that. So maybe we talk about that tonight.

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 4>No, I do. I'll say this.

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 2>I I was not you guys, I'm in a group.

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm in a group. Chat. I've been in for four

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 2>years and I haven't seen these women in five years,

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 2>and I want to leave in the dark of night,

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 2>just really quickly. At one I am just leave conversation.

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 2>But now I'm like, well, I can't. I see it.

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 2>It did not bother me because I just know this

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 2>person's personality. I think is that, like, I know there's

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 2>an allergy to group chat. So I just it felt

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 2>like a Sarah Brice moment to me. But Sarah is

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 2>so explanatory. This one really just dipped didn't even know,

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 2>laughing emoji.

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Like you want to be a part of something and

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 3>we're letting like, you know, we're including you in, you know,

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 3>and then you're just then take it. So that then

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I would say that I think she

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, and I'll be interested to see what

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 3>she has to say. I think because she left behind

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 3>such a fine representative of her household, she thinks that's

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 3>fine because she really will tell you he does all

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 3>the planning, right, Well, yeah, okay, that's so we'll have

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 3>to follow back to it when we have a conversation.

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Talk about this when we have here though, or when

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 1>we had Macy on about like leaving it, leaving a

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 1>group chat, and if you do that for like attention

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 1>or whatever.

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh we did talk about that.

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 1>It just seems like I don't see that her either. Yeah,

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>it seems more like a Sarah like I'm overwhelmed. I

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>can't handle it.

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which is very much her personality. It's fair if

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 3>you're wanting to be a part of I.

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 4>Just don't know if I would have rather been announced

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 4>or not.

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I would like announcements chats.

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 4>Don't leave group chats.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't like if I'm in like a group

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<v Speaker 1>for like a softball or something like that, or those

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<v Speaker 1>all make sense to me, but otherwise I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't have to respond.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, same moving fun. We're going to also do.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to do headlines of the week, right, so

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<v Speaker 3>after we wind about it a little bit, a little

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<v Speaker 3>vent sash, we're going to talk about the headlines of

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<v Speaker 3>the week. Here are the headlines of the week. Do

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<v Speaker 3>we want to talk about Bianca nude? Grammy's look? I

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<v Speaker 3>would like to say if I looked like her, I

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<v Speaker 3>would be wearing no clothes all the time. Body is amazing,

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<v Speaker 3>exceptional a specimen.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you? I don't know, I don't know, and I

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<v Speaker 2>won't know you.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I would in Jesus' name love the opportunity to find

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<v Speaker 2>out if I would do that or not. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I would.

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<v Speaker 3>The first thing I thought was wow, love the confidence, Like, yeah,

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:18.320
<v Speaker 3>that was confident. The second thing I thought is everyone

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<v Speaker 3>has a different way of uh what's that word? Self

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<v Speaker 3>expression and fashion? But I had a hard time finding

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<v Speaker 3>the fashion and no clothes. I also would say, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna get grilled. I don't care. I felt

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<v Speaker 3>a little. I felt like it was a little disrespectful. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm My thing was I'm glad my daughter wasn't watching

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<v Speaker 3>the show. Yeah, yeah, I don't want her seeing that.

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<v Speaker 4>Person want to see that personally, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>see that.

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<v Speaker 3>I leave.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just me.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm more conservative because there's so much that

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<v Speaker 1>can wait to see. But I have other issues with

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>this whole situation. Oh Cat's got double fingers. Have issues

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>with this situation. If you really watch the way it

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<v Speaker 1>all happened, she a looks like she's barely there. She

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 1>looks so distant in her eyes, and if you really

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<v Speaker 1>pay attention to the video, it looks like he is

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<v Speaker 1>telling her to do it and she is hesitant and

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<v Speaker 1>not wanting to take the jacket off.

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<v Speaker 2>Not like that. Oh, I need to read it to

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 2>her jacket. By the way, she's beautiful. She loved her jacket.

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I also has a type.

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<v Speaker 4>Right first, I was like, are they back together?

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 2>To me?

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<v Speaker 1>And this is just my opinion, it felt controlled by him.

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>We know, we know as a society that he controls

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>what his women wear. He is the one behind saying

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<v Speaker 1>what they wear, and that felt very controlled. And to me,

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>she looked uncomfortable at first with wanting to and maybe

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong, but I didn't.

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 4>That part of it really bothered me.

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 2>And a minimum she was cold at a minimum for sure,

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 2>so she was uncomfortable. Yeah, there's no way she was

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 2>saying room temp.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's his art, not her art, which

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>is another issue of it. Just it's it's to me,

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>it feels him controlling her, and I don't like that he.

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Should have to go naked too.

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:08.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to see that either.

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't either, but I don't think it would happen,

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<v Speaker 2>is my point.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of the Grammys, there was some.

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<v Speaker 2>Shooting.

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<v Speaker 3>I had had this already and I totally forgot to. Okay, so, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>there is a obviously Beyonce one best Country album. Can

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<v Speaker 3>we thought when we start with your thoughts about that?

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<v Speaker 1>So the whole thing where just about we're just talking

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 1>about where she won it.

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 3>I want what is your what is your thoughts on

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:41.720
<v Speaker 3>her winning Best Country album?

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm not the best person to ask that question.

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean.

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:54.239
<v Speaker 1>We it's not fans that are voting. First of all, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>so let me start there. And so this is all

0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>very controlled by a certain group people.

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 3>So let me just piggyback off of that, because this

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:04.759
<v Speaker 3>was where I was going to go with with this,

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 3>like them, hate them whatever. John Rich tweeted out something

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 3>I personally, John Rich has always been lovely to me.

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 3>I've always I've always liked John Rich. I follow him

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 3>on Twitter. Uh do I agree with everything he says?

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 2>No? Do I agree with you know? You know? But

0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:24.879
<v Speaker 2>I do like I do like him.

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 3>So he had tweeted out something that said, folks are

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 3>asking me how do music award shows work? Labels, publishers

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 3>all have blocks of votes. They make deals with each other.

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:37.839
<v Speaker 3>You vote for mine, will vote for yours type thing.

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 3>It has zero to do with who made the best music.

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Thus Beyonce with Country Album of the Year, so and

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 3>he goes, And that's how it works for CMAS, ACMs, Billboard,

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 3>et cetera. All work exactly the same. Last night, the

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 3>Grammys outed themselves in a big way. So I think

0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 3>there's the vast majority of people do not understand how

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 3>ward shows work. I did not know how award show,

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 3>how award shows worked until I was nominated when we

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.440
<v Speaker 3>did the ACMs. Now this which is why I only

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 3>really technically like the fan voted ones, and even some

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 3>of those are slightly rigged, But like, I had no

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 3>idea that it was that's how that worked, and that

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:20.240
<v Speaker 3>labels just traded and managers trade. Everyone just traded votes

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.680
<v Speaker 3>and it wasn't actually about who was the best or

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 3>what was the best. And that's so sad to begin with.

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:30.320
<v Speaker 3>I feel like it all should be voted by peers

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:34.799
<v Speaker 3>and not just industry people trading votes. Personally my thing

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 3>now when it comes to you know, Casey musk Graves,

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 3>which is the headline, Casey musk Grave speaks out on

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:44.240
<v Speaker 3>the alleged Beyonce diss after the viral reaction. First and foremost,

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 3>there have been many videos. Remember back in the day

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 3>when Faye Hill to carry Underwood and she was like

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:54.000
<v Speaker 3>what and she does that face, you know, and that

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.719
<v Speaker 3>was a whole big thing, right, and you know they're

0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:01.839
<v Speaker 3>both there's amazing, right artists whatever, every person that has

0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:04.919
<v Speaker 3>you all see like they've got a camera on their face. Now,

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, to Casey's and she's you know, she basically said,

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, she's like, I don't really care. It doesn't

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 3>affect what I'm doing. It's just, you know, I was

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:18.880
<v Speaker 3>I've always just been doing my own thing. And that's Casey.

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 3>She's very much like she's she's like the coolest of cool,

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 3>like always super cool. And but my thing too is

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:29.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, well, of course she's going to be upset

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:31.520
<v Speaker 3>she didn't win too, like she should have won, like

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, or or lady or you know, like those

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:39.399
<v Speaker 3>are pure country albums, you know, and so I who

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 3>doesn't want to win? So like, I'm sorry if her

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 3>reaction wasn't all like oh yay, like she didn't win,

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:46.959
<v Speaker 3>like of course she would want to win. So I'm

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.439
<v Speaker 3>I wonder to the people like that were like mad

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 3>at her reaction where it's like we're saying anything about it,

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:53.839
<v Speaker 3>Like what would your face look like when you just

0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 3>found out that you didn't win, Like okay, takes a

0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 3>second to register, and then you're gonna clap, you know,

0:37:58.280 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 3>for the other person, like you're going to be disappointed.

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 3>So like, well, that was silly to me that that

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:05.959
<v Speaker 3>even became a thing like of course, like.

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Well then are we going to be met at Beyonce

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 2>for not being over the moon because she looked like

0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 2>she had just gotten I mean she was shocked, shocked. Yeah,

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 2>so like then we could equally be like, well, you're

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:16.280
<v Speaker 2>not a gracious one, you know, like that's crazy. Everyone's

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 2>allowed to be a human for a second, right.

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 3>And I like, you know, the people saying, you know,

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 3>even Beyonce had quoted too that she goes, this isn't

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 3>a country album. This is a Beyonce album. So like

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 3>she even herself said like this wasn't a country album.

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 3>So you know how she got into that category.

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:34.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 3>I like Beyonce music, you know, and I'm not even

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 3>going to touch on like any of that stuff. It's

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 3>just more you know, to Casey's thing, it's like, well,

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 3>of course, like she would have wanted to win, but

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 3>she wasn't actively trying to do anything against Beyonce. So

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 3>I just think that's a wild and ridiculous headline.

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that. But at the same time, and this

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>is not Casey or Beyonce. At the same time, I

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:04.840
<v Speaker 1>think people are naive to not realize how much.

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<v Speaker 4>There really is.

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Between all these female artists, like not like actively like

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:14.440
<v Speaker 1>fighting with each other, but there's a lot of competition

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 1>between all these female artists, especially in country but also

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 1>in the other genres. So to actually believe that they

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:26.919
<v Speaker 1>all are really just yay, I hope so and So wins, Like, Eh,

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 1>let's just be real. Everybody wants to win. Like you

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:32.479
<v Speaker 1>said to Piggyback on that, no one's truly I hate

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 1>to say that, there's maybe few instances, but very few

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>of them are actually rooting for the other people to

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 1>beat them.

0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:40.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna I'm gonna say something to Taylor Swift though

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 3>on this. I think I loved everything I saw about

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 3>because she didn't obviously take she didn't take anything home,

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 3>but her reactions she could have like to me, I'm like,

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 3>didn't even look like like she cared, which is awesome.

0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 3>She was like having the best time ever. She was

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:55.720
<v Speaker 3>having so much fun and like just cheering for everybody.

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:57.959
<v Speaker 3>Like I think she does it the best way because

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 3>it looks just like authentic and just cheering for everybody

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:03.399
<v Speaker 3>and like truly like happy for each person that wins,

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.359
<v Speaker 3>because she has won so much and she has well.

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of people take especially Grammys

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 1>very different. Grammys are different kind of awards. Your typical

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 1>people who are especially in country, that are winning at

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>ACMs and cmas are not the people that are winning Grammys.

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>The people that truly are going for Grammys are I

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:22.840
<v Speaker 1>hate to say this, but a little bit usually a

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 1>little bit more artistic, a little bit more really about

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:29.319
<v Speaker 1>the music and that stuff really matters to them. Not

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 1>saying but maybe to Taylor, Grammys aren't that big of

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:35.759
<v Speaker 1>a deal, like she's won, like look at her, you know.

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Like so I do think that she genuinely is excited

0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 1>for other people. But I also think that there's a

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 1>nice competition between all the females as well.

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:47.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean, and to Casey Musgraves, like Architect is probably

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:49.359
<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite songs, you know, Like, I don't

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 3>know if you guys listen to the album, but it's

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 3>a fantastic album.

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:54.240
<v Speaker 4>And she's one has she won several Grammys.

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many of that she has one, yeah.

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Because she's one of those artistic ones who's not going

0:40:58.160 --> 0:40:59.720
<v Speaker 1>to usually win at ACMs or CMAS.

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:00.880
<v Speaker 4>But when Grammy's I feel like.

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Your thoughts, kb oh word shows are hard for me

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 2>because I have I'm married to a few time nominee

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:10.839
<v Speaker 2>and we go in knowing that we won't win well

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 2>because it's all political. Yeah, So it's just really yeah hard, Yeah,

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:17.240
<v Speaker 2>and I think they I think that that is probably

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:20.399
<v Speaker 2>the most honest thing said so far by John Rich

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 2>or the most honest thing said about this is by

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 2>John Rich with him saying like they really pulled back

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:27.840
<v Speaker 2>the curtain here. It's quite obvious.

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, I mean it's one hundred percent truth what

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>he said, but it is I.

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Would like to say too. On the artist side, I

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 2>think it's just wildly defeating when you're getting dressed up

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.360
<v Speaker 2>and you're when when everyone's walking the carpet knowing that

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 2>they're not going to win. I mean, it's just.

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:42.720
<v Speaker 4>Well and I think really unfair.

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:45.800
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting to bring that up because I've had several

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 1>artists I've worked with who are like, I don't want

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 1>to go, correct and then you kind of push them

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 1>to go or or you know what or whatever don't go,

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and then people start complaining. Fans are like, why are

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 1>they not going? They're disrespecting country music? Well, you know,

0:41:58.239 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 1>walking in, you're not winning, And.

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of money to it is.

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 1>You got to pay to go, you got to get ready,

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>you got to be red car. It's a lot, and

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 1>so you know, that's that's a hard part of it

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 1>where people start getting mad, why are people not going

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 1>to a ward shows? Oh they're not you know, they're

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 1>not winning, so they don't want to go, you know.

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 1>But I mean it's a lot.

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 2>I do think, Like for us specifically, we accept that

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:19.200
<v Speaker 2>it is an honor and so we're always like we're

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 2>honored and you will always go. But I can see

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 2>how especially if you've been doing it a lot of times. Yeah,

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 2>it's never you right, just like okay, it gets defeating,

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah for sure.

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 3>Kylie Kelsey wasn't going to tell Jason if she went

0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 3>into labor on game day. She goes, I'm the type

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 3>of person who's just going to do it. She explained,

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 3>So my answer to that, in a conversation with my

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 3>husband and I had was if I go into labor,

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 3>because they stay in the hotel and it before I

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 3>go into labor, and you are going to be playing

0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 3>a game while I'm pushing this baby out. I'm not

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:02.200
<v Speaker 3>telling you. What are your thoughts? So you, I mean

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 3>you haven't had your husband. Well, you've had your husband,

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:05.439
<v Speaker 3>but he's had to like fly out.

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't have him, uh to two times he's

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:12.440
<v Speaker 2>flown in and met me at the hospital, right, but

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 2>like he was there when you have the baby, Yes,

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 2>all three times. Would you ever not.

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 3>If okay, let's just put yourself in if he had

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 3>a game or whatever, would you not tell him that

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:23.800
<v Speaker 3>you were going into labor?

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 2>No? So what are your thoughts on that? Then? Yeah?

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:29.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean, I maybe it feels different

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 2>because it's because it's sports, Like I mean, ours is

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.360
<v Speaker 2>just one show. It doesn't go towards a total of anything.

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 2>We're not gearing towards a championship of anything. So that's

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 2>where it would be different. These are like life things.

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I know that it is football in his life for everyone,

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:45.840
<v Speaker 2>So that's also very tricky and that's their livelihood. I

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 2>get it. So I don't know what it's like to

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 2>be married to a football player, but I can tell

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 2>you that ours was canceled the show and get home cap.

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 2>We don't cancel shows after the baby's here, though, just

0:43:56.719 --> 0:44:00.240
<v Speaker 2>so we're clear. So back out on the road we go. Yeah, yeah,

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:03.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's no like maternity unity.

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I do think it's different. I think that the the

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 1>behind this is that if she tells him, then he's

0:44:10.680 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 1>going to be in his head and he's not gonna

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:14.880
<v Speaker 1>perform his best at his game, and it's gonna be detrimental,

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and that is a huge part of their let's keep

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 1>in mind livelihood, Like that's huge. First kid, who I'd

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:24.919
<v Speaker 1>have a hard time with it. Third kid, I would

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 1>have been like, it's fine, you know what I mean.

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Like by the third kid, I was kind of like,

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:30.600
<v Speaker 1>why you don't need to stay here tonight? Go home

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:32.839
<v Speaker 1>with the kids, you know. But first kid, it just

0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:36.800
<v Speaker 1>feels so I don't know, you know, but I would

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:38.319
<v Speaker 1>have done the same thing. It would be hard, and

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be happy about it. I'd be really bummed,

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:41.879
<v Speaker 1>but I would probably do the same thing.

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 2>And I do think people are made differently, Like what's

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:44.759
<v Speaker 2>the thing.

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 3>That's what I was gonna say about her, Like when

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 3>I look at her, I'm like she's she looks like

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 3>just a badass, Like she's like I got this, Like

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't need you, I want you, and like I

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:53.920
<v Speaker 3>love her.

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I like I've always loved her vibe.

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:58.919
<v Speaker 3>I think she's really cool, Like she's someone that like yeah,

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 3>it just to be like a really on hang and

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 3>I could see her just being like, yeah, I like

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 3>I got this. And there's a piece of me that

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 3>like almost like envies that, like because I'm so like, no,

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:08.719
<v Speaker 3>I need to hear like you know, I need you

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:10.239
<v Speaker 3>to hold my hand through this because I'm gonna pass

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:12.319
<v Speaker 3>out and freak out. Like there's like kind of that

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:14.560
<v Speaker 3>piece where it's like I wish I could have a

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 3>piece of that badassness where it's like I'm like I

0:45:17.680 --> 0:45:18.960
<v Speaker 3>can do this, I got this.

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:24.880
<v Speaker 2>I'll call you afterwards. Hey it's a boy. So like

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, true, I would so love that, Like that's cool,

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:32.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, but that is cool even for our family,

0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Like Preston goes back out on the road, it's like

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 2>but that's our livelihood and that's what we're that's what

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:39.399
<v Speaker 2>we have to do, and I know that will work

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 2>into the career. And so it's like I think, because

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:42.799
<v Speaker 2>I've been in the career, that's why I think maybe

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 2>it works for them, because she is built different in

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:48.759
<v Speaker 2>the way that she can even be an NFL wife.

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying, you have to be a little bit

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 1>I could to be an NFL wife anyway. Right, it's

0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:56.920
<v Speaker 1>such a mentality. I mean, think of all the things

0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:59.320
<v Speaker 1>he's missed. I mean, I know a baby's the biggest,

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 1>but all so at the same time, they're kind of

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:04.360
<v Speaker 1>used to that lifestyle and missing a lot and yeah

0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:05.720
<v Speaker 1>she's yeah, she's a badass.

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Have they had the baby? No?

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 3>No, Okay, onto ending the segment. Guys, again, I want

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 3>to do this like that.

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I just have to like structure.

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:20.440
<v Speaker 3>Thanks for verbally walking us through. Yes, this is how

0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 3>it's going to walk through. But we're going to always

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 3>end the show with a little life advice. I think again,

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 3>something that we love and that we've uh, you know

0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 3>when we went on tour was the Q and A

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:32.960
<v Speaker 3>session when someone would kind of either as ask a

0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:35.880
<v Speaker 3>ask oh my gosh, ask us a question, or you know,

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 3>tell them tell us about their life and you know

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 3>how we can maybe help them. Again, we don't have PhDs.

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:44.440
<v Speaker 3>You're not therapist, but boy if we spent a lot

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 3>of time in the couch, so so please DM us

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 3>any questions to the wind Down account wind Down podcast

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:58.400
<v Speaker 3>on Instagram, any questions that you guys have and if not,

0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 3>we'll just leave you with a piece of life.

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:02.319
<v Speaker 2>So we have, but we did have a DM because

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:03.240
<v Speaker 2>we asked yesterday.

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 3>So here here it is high ladies looking for outsider perspectives.

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm a step mom to an adolescent girl and I

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:12.960
<v Speaker 3>have two of my own children. There is a lot

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:15.399
<v Speaker 3>of tension with the biological mom of my bonus daughter,

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 3>especially that she and my mother in law have more

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 3>contact than I do with my mother in law, my

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 3>husband an ex wife's marriage ended seven years ago. It

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:28.959
<v Speaker 3>kind of hurts but also pisses me off. My mother

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 3>in law thinks it's okay to send picks of my

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 3>family to my stepdaughter's biological mom, so picks of my

0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:38.640
<v Speaker 3>husband and our babies to his ex wife. I've literally

0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:41.400
<v Speaker 3>only met her once in our six year relationship. My

0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 3>mother in law sees nothing wrong with any of this.

0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:45.839
<v Speaker 3>She thinks it's just no big deal to share our

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 3>life with my ex husband's ex, well, sorry, with my

0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 3>husband's ex. She also keeps secrets from us regarding what

0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 3>goes on when bonus daughter is at biological mom's house.

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:57.759
<v Speaker 3>Long story short, Is it normal that I've met the

0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 3>biological mom once? In sixs? And?

0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:01.239
<v Speaker 2>Is?

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:03.919
<v Speaker 3>And is it okay that mother in law has such

0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 3>frequent contact with her ex daughter in law love that's

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:10.520
<v Speaker 3>her ex daughter in law love from a Michigan mom.

0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Woo woo, Michiganders.

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:18.440
<v Speaker 4>That's I mean, I don't know.

0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not divorced, but I feel like the first question,

0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 1>is it normal to have only met once? Possibly? I

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 1>mean I feel like that could be normal to not

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:30.799
<v Speaker 1>really be involved with. But do I think it's weird

0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:32.839
<v Speaker 1>that the mother in law sending all of that and

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:36.239
<v Speaker 1>that that's not that seems to cross the line to me.

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:41.360
<v Speaker 2>So without is she's she assuming she's the glue? Is

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 2>that what I'm understanding? Because because those are all her grandbabies,

0:48:44.239 --> 0:48:46.840
<v Speaker 2>she thinks she can merge the world's Probably.

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, probably. I just feel like that should maybe be

0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:51.719
<v Speaker 1>a discussion, like, hey, are you comfortable with this? I

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 1>won't do this if you're not, but here's why I

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:54.920
<v Speaker 1>want to do it or something.

0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 3>I would go to the husband, yeah, and say this

0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:01.239
<v Speaker 3>makes me feel uncomfortable that you're mom is doing this

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:05.840
<v Speaker 3>and getting on the same page with him, so that way,

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:08.399
<v Speaker 3>it's not her just going to the mother in law

0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 3>and saying sure this, Like, I feel like that's where

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:12.959
<v Speaker 3>the husband needs to step up and say, my wife

0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 3>does not feel comfortable with this, you know, can you

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:17.520
<v Speaker 3>not do this?

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:20.360
<v Speaker 2>I agree? And I also think I don't have anybody

0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:24.080
<v Speaker 2>sending anybody pictures and my kids related or not related,

0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:28.200
<v Speaker 2>like that's not up to them. Well, that feels very

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:28.880
<v Speaker 2>strange to me.

0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:33.839
<v Speaker 1>Maybe depending on if the husband is in contact with

0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 1>the ex wife, Like I think it's appropriate if the

0:49:37.920 --> 0:49:41.359
<v Speaker 1>current wife is comfortable with her going straight to him

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 1>and saying, can I have some pictures of the family

0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 1>if she wants them, Like, I don't necessarily think she

0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>needs to go to the mother in law.

0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:49.919
<v Speaker 4>She should just go to the dad.

0:49:50.520 --> 0:49:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I'll say this, though, there is a generational gap

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:56.480
<v Speaker 2>that I think we need to acknowledge because that I'm

0:49:56.560 --> 0:50:01.320
<v Speaker 2>assuming that writer or that listener is around our age,

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 2>and so we're dealing with a group of a different age,

0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:09.040
<v Speaker 2>and they really love pictures a lot. Yeah, Like my

0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:11.919
<v Speaker 2>mom requests pictures so that she can just I'm like, Mom,

0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:14.920
<v Speaker 2>you don't need to show you know, doctor so and so,

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 2>because they if they cared, they could follow along, you know. Yeah,

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 2>So it's like a weird. But also like we share

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:23.440
<v Speaker 2>on social media, so I know that seems counterproductive too.

0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:25.839
<v Speaker 2>I just it's it is just a different generation where

0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:29.000
<v Speaker 2>like I think it's being probably she's coming from a

0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:31.719
<v Speaker 2>place a gracious assumption. She's probably been super proud, but

0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:33.960
<v Speaker 2>it does feel a little I think you're trusive.

0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:34.800
<v Speaker 4>I think she should.

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:36.400
<v Speaker 1>She just needs to go to her husband and say

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:38.440
<v Speaker 1>she's uncomfortable and have him talk to her.

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I actually don't even know who or if

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:44.240
<v Speaker 3>the if the ex wife really enjoys getting these photos either.

0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Think about it where I'm like I wife. Like, for example, if.

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 3>Mike is having a baby with his girlfriend, Let's say

0:50:56.640 --> 0:51:00.680
<v Speaker 3>they have a baby. If Pam sends me photo of

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:03.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, no, who would that be? It would be

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:05.320
<v Speaker 3>how does that work? Yeah, it would be sending me photos.

0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 3>It would be like his mom, it would be it

0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:10.319
<v Speaker 3>would be it would be But that's but is that

0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 3>the you know, because it would be my husband's be

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:17.400
<v Speaker 3>on the other side. But either way, like I, well, no,

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:20.560
<v Speaker 3>that's not right because it's not an ex because if

0:51:20.600 --> 0:51:23.799
<v Speaker 3>Mike was remarried, right, but would be this is my

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:25.000
<v Speaker 3>husband's mom.

0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:27.440
<v Speaker 4>Oh we're ok ye ya ya yah, yeah, yeah, yeah

0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:27.880
<v Speaker 4>it would.

0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, i'd like, okay, I'll say hi to

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:33.600
<v Speaker 3>the cute baby that I see that they make maybe

0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:36.279
<v Speaker 3>one day, but like, I don't need you to send

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:38.680
<v Speaker 3>me a photo. And even if we were like cool,

0:51:38.719 --> 0:51:40.960
<v Speaker 3>like and we're fine, like I accidentally this happens all

0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:44.240
<v Speaker 3>the time, but I every time I say hey, Siri,

0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:47.600
<v Speaker 3>call Pam, it calls Pam her like, and then it's

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:52.879
<v Speaker 3>like I'm like and then it's like it's already rang

0:51:52.920 --> 0:51:54.680
<v Speaker 3>the ones and she's like me and I was like,

0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:58.040
<v Speaker 3>I didn't mean to. I was like, Hi, how you doing,

0:51:58.480 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 3>And we have a conversation and she's so we're all fine,

0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:02.920
<v Speaker 3>everything great. But like even if we had a good conversation,

0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:05.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, I don't want pictures of my ex husband's

0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:06.240
<v Speaker 3>kid with his new wife.

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't we need to find that part out, Like

0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I want I'm curious wife.

0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:15.799
<v Speaker 3>Because maybe they can both come together and say hey, mom,

0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:17.120
<v Speaker 3>stop fucking sending the.

0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:19.840
<v Speaker 4>Pro could get together, but nobody wants these fights.

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they're together for the second time in six years

0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:24.239
<v Speaker 2>and that's the topic of conversation.

0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:26.560
<v Speaker 4>Our advice get together with the ex wife and find.

0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Out life advice. There, I have it.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll hope you guys enjoy this episode and I rundown

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<v Speaker 3>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this the conclusion of the show, Stay tuned for

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<v Speaker 2>next week. We're going to say bye now by bye bye.