1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: Ladies. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 3: Listeners, this is exciting, and I'm going to tell you why. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 3: I had a conversation with our producer Hannah and we 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: were kind of talking through just run of shows. 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: Right. 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 3: I love structure. I think we all love structure, love structure, 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: and I think sometimes some of our best shows have 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 3: been when we have just been real and we've chatted 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: about things and we've just kind of, yes, we love 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: having guests on the show, but we are going to 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 3: do a slightly different format. I'm not saying we're never 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 3: going to have guests again, but Hannah has come up 14 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 3: with a great run of show and today is day 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: one of that run of show. So listeners, I mean, 16 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: it's going to be a whole experience. Let me just 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: break it down. I'm gonna do this one time only, 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: and then from there we're gonna you know, but this 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: is exciting to me because boy do I love a 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: good structured lay of show. So we're gonna start and 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: here we go. I'm not gonna do this every time. 22 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: I'd be like first up host chat, but just to 23 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 3: just we're gonna always start the show with a little 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: life updates, whether it's what's going on our life shows, 25 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: were watching things we got going on. So let's get 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: into it right now, Kristin. You just got back from 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 3: the Bahamas. 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: I did. Was it the best time ever? It was 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: a fine time, and then it was a great time. Yeah, okay. 30 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: So we went to the Bahamas. We were supposed to 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: stay three nights, two full days. I was having a 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: panic attack. You and I talked to me basically onto 33 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: the plane and into another country. Yes, because leaving the 34 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: kids is hard for me. I did get a lot 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: of good feedback from listeners saying that they also felt 36 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: the same way. So I felt less alone. And then 37 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: we got to the Bahamas and our stay was less 38 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: than charming. At the resort that we stayed at, it 39 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: was it doesn't take much for me to feel like 40 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: I'm on vacation, So for me to feel like I 41 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: wasn't quite on vacation really felt sad to us. So 42 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: the last day we're there, we had one of the 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: we were with the other half of our duo and 44 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: we all to each other and we're like, man, we 45 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: could use like another day. We felt like we were 46 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: doing a lot of like you know, talking with management 47 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: and trying to like get just shifting things around. Anyways, 48 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: all that to say, we decided to stay an extra 49 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: day in the Bahamas. So Kramer calls me on Monday 50 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: and she says, hi, AM just checking in on you. 51 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: Are you home safe? And I said, well, You're going 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: to be really proud of me, and she squeals, I 53 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: feel like you could have been crying. I was like, 54 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: you were like, are you still in the Bahamas? And 55 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 2: I said, BF, I am. We moved resorts. We're getting 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: our redemption day. I'm going to leave tomorrow. But it 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: was that was the day I needed. So I feel 58 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: proud of myself for pushing myself out of the comfort zone. 59 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: I also feel proud of my four nights. Wow, and 60 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: that was too many, by the way. I mean, it 61 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: was great to be with Preston, but I'm like I 62 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: needed to just breathe air. I could tell I need 63 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: to be with the kids. 64 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 65 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 2: But I also just felt really proud of myself for 66 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 2: like taking the assessment of what I needed and then 67 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: attempting to get it good for you. 68 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: She was really proud of you. We were talking about 69 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: something and she goes or she called me or something 70 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: she goes. 71 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 4: Guess what she was like, Kristen stated, an extra day. 72 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: It's not like me. 73 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: No, I was so proud of me. The only time 74 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: I've ever done that is when my whole collection was 75 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: with me. So like if we stayed extra a long 76 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: one time doing something, but it was like all the 77 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: kids were there, so something like who cares? 78 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Catherine, I want to throw something to you. Okay, 79 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if you want to talk about it, okay, 80 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: But we had a so it was Jolie's birthday weekend 81 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: we went to she really wanted to stay the night 82 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: at opery Land and then she wanted to, you know, 83 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: do the water park or whatever. Love missed it. We're 84 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: very sad to miss her, but it was a great time. 85 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: It was so much fun. Catherine slept over with me 86 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: at opry Land. Do you want to talk about what 87 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: happened the next day? 88 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'll talk about it. 89 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: Because it's like, I mean, I don't I actually never 90 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 3: really looked into actually what happened, but just that sheer 91 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 3: panic and when you were texting, I mean I couldn't 92 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: even I can't even imagine, So why don't you take 93 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: it away? 94 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 4: Okay, my heart's like racing. Christen's like what's happening. 95 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: So we were at Oppy Land at sound Waves, and 96 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: all the other kids are other places, nixt other places. 97 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, crainsy, let's go have a girl's days. 98 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 4: Like okay. 99 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: I was like, let's go to the mall, Let's get 100 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: some clothes, let's go eat, let's do all the thing. 101 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: We'll get ice cream, all the stuff. So we head 102 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: over to Opry Mills mall and we. 103 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 4: Were like circling the mall. You know, we'd gone to 104 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 4: all name, We'd gone to all these stores. 105 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,559 Speaker 1: So we had sat and the well, actually we ate first, 106 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: so we sat in the food court and we ate, 107 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: went to a couple of stores, and then we were 108 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: in Sephora and I'm like, shakey, it's weird. I haven't 109 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: really talked about this. Sorry, No, it's fine. No, I 110 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: definitely wanted to talk about it. It's just like I 111 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: haven't talked about it really out loud. 112 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 3: But so which there's a lot of emotion behind that. Yeah, 113 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 3: like it which is weird. Yeah, well because it's scary. 114 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, got panic feeling, I can can imagine. 115 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: So we are checking out in Sephora, and we start 116 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: to walk out with like all of our bags. And 117 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: as I'm as I'm looking out, I see I'll never 118 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: forget the one man I saw. But everyone is running, 119 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: like panic running, and I look across and the store 120 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: and I see two people taking their doors at the 121 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: other store and shutting them really fast. And so it 122 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: just I just knew, and it just hit me, and 123 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: I took Ramsey. 124 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: She tells me. Now, I grabbed her neck. 125 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: I thought I grabbed her hand, but I grabbed her 126 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: and I said, hold on to me, baby girl. We 127 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: have to run and we have to hide. Really, yeah, 128 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: I know, I haven't really talked about it. So we 129 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: run to the back of the store. I kind of 130 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: remember everybody else like it hitting them. I remember seeing 131 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,119 Speaker 1: some of the workers and it like registering on their face, 132 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: and everyone just like took off through the back of 133 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: the store. 134 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: So we go to the back of the store. But 135 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: the problem is when you get to the back of the. 136 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: Store, it's this huge area. It's like where trucks can 137 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: come up, like an exit ramp and like all that. 138 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: But I mean it's behind every source, so it's like 139 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of the mall. It's just this huge 140 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: open area and there are just people flooding it, right, 141 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: But in my head, I'm like, obviously I'm assuming there's 142 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: a shooter in the mall. 143 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: I'm like, if we're down. 144 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: Here to have the lockdown, that just at. 145 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: This point, At this point, I don't I just. 146 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: When did you text me? Not for a while, Okay, 147 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. At what point I tell you, I 148 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: have not touched my phone. At this point we get 149 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: to the back, I'm holding onto her some house, still 150 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: holding onto the bags, and I'm like looking at We're 151 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: all kind of looking at each other. 152 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: We're all running. 153 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: I mean, there's hundreds of people at this point, all 154 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: flooding to this part, and we're like, where do we go? 155 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: What do we do? Does anyone know what we should do? 156 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 1: I remember saying that to somebody. 157 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: And this part doesn't open up to like the outside, 158 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: well all. 159 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: You can see, no, it's to the inside, but all 160 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: you can see is there's a ramp that says exit. 161 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: So there was a group of us it was like 162 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: maybe we go out, and then someone who's like, but 163 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: what if they're waiting at the at the exit? So 164 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: we all kind of stop, we slow down and we 165 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: just all kind of and then one person was like, 166 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: everybody just stop and stand still for a minute. So 167 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: everybody just kind of stopped, and we ended up at 168 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: the back of another store, but like still in that space, 169 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: so we all just kind of stopped, and then all 170 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: of a sudden, this lady was like, Okay, he says, 171 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: we're free to go, and I was like, who says 172 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: we're free to go? He's like the person and I 173 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: think it's like rebokers. I don't even know where we are. 174 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: And she's like and I was like, wait, I need 175 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: more information. She's like he's a detective. He says it's fine. 176 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: The people that need to pay for their stuff pay 177 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: for their stuff and go. And I'm like, that's just 178 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: that's just weird. So we slowly start walking through the store. 179 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: There's like a couple of us, and we're like, are 180 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: you sure? So I start walking out and as we 181 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: walk out to the center of the mall, there's a 182 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: group of like i'd say probably ten cops walking and 183 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: the food court is right to the right of us 184 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: at this point, because we're on the other side of 185 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: the mall now, and they're like, hey, y'all need to 186 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: go that way, and so I'm like okay. And so 187 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: I was like, couldn't we get to our car. I 188 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: don't know because my car's over there by the outside 189 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: of the food court. So I see a female cop 190 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: standing in front of the store in front of us, 191 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: and I just look at her. I go, can we 192 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: get to our car? Can I get to the car? 193 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: And she goes, I don't know. I don't think so, 194 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: but you need to make up your mind. You need 195 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: need to get to your car, get in here right away. 196 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: And I was like okay. So I was like, we'll 197 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: go in here. And it's locked. You know, they've locked 198 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: down at this point. And now I can hear the 199 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: intercom's going shelter in place, stay and you know, hide, 200 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: be quiet, code, read alert or whatever. 201 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 4: And so I was like okay. 202 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: And then this is when I slightly start to panic 203 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: because the store person was taking longer than I would like, 204 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: and I was like and I screamed. I was like, 205 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: please let us in, and the cops like, calm down, 206 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: she's going to let you in. You're fine. So they 207 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: let us in and this store ran it beautifully. The 208 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: workers were like all the kids in the back, so. 209 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 4: We go to the back. 210 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: There's already probably twenty people in the back at storage space, 211 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: maybe thirty. I couldn't even you know. 212 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 4: So we go in. 213 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: There's another little girl who's panicking. So we get to 214 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: this point and finally I like can stop. And we're 215 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: hiding in there essentially, and I finally, I mean, I 216 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: don't even talk to Ramsey minus like literally, don't let 217 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: go of me. You know, I haven't talked, I haven't 218 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: done anything but run essentially at this point. So we 219 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: get back there and we're just there for I don't 220 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: even know how long. So I kind of talked to 221 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: her and I'm like, baby, you're being so brave, you're 222 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: doing so good. You know, we just have to sit here. 223 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. We just have to 224 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: be quiet, and so kind of talking to some people 225 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: around us, trying to figure out what's going on. We're 226 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: all quiet. This is when I finally get my phone 227 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: in text thought. I was texting Nick and I was like, 228 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: something's going on at the mall. Please see if you 229 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: can figure out what's We're in shelter in place or 230 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: we're locked down. Well, apparently I look back at my phone. 231 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: I had texted Emmy on accident a church thing. She 232 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: and so my phone's almost dead. So I put it 233 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: back down. I'm talking to Ramsey again and I look 234 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: back and I was like, oh man, and and he responded. 235 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: She's like what do I do? And I was like, 236 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: just call dad, and so she called Nick. He texted me. 237 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: I was like, phone's about to die. He's like, put 238 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: it on airplane mode. I'll see if I can find 239 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: anything out. I can't find anything. No one's really reporting anything. 240 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 4: I see a. 241 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: Little bit on Twitter. Just put it on airplane mode 242 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: to check in. So we're there for like ten minutes, 243 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: but the thing going off. But I start to kind 244 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: of calm down because I don't hear gunshots or anything 245 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: at this point, you know. So I was like okay, 246 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: and then someone said it sounds like there was an 247 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: altercation between two people, you know, but that's all I know. 248 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: Like everyone's trying to figure out what's going on. So 249 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: then they they're like, okay, all clear. And then there's 250 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you walk out of the store and there's 251 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: just cops, I mean so many cops, and they're leading 252 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: us out to the to the parking lot, and that's why. 253 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: I was like, are we even safe to go to 254 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: the parking lot? And the cops like just keep following everybody, 255 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: and then you get out and every cop in Nashville 256 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: is there. I mean, we walked outside. I've just never 257 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: seen anything like it. You know, they have like their 258 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: stuff popped up, like headquarters, like they're announcing over their 259 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: thing or like all civilians report to Pauladines, which is 260 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: across the parking lot over there. Most people got in 261 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: their cars and started going, but then it was a 262 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: mad house because everybody's trying to leave and everybody. So 263 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: I was like, baby, let's just go to Puladines. That's 264 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: what they're saying to do. We're not getting out of 265 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: here anyway. So we go to Pouladines. That's when I 266 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: plug in my phone and that's when I. 267 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: Texted you, Oh my gosh. Yeah, and this pops up 268 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: and I'm not even registering that you guys would even 269 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: be there. 270 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean it popped up. 271 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: I remember, Yeah, I had, like you know, Jesse and 272 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: Sydney texting me because the people that saw that we 273 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: were at oper Land and I was like no, but 274 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, Cat's in there, right now. 275 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, I mean it was crazy. 276 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean, come to find out they're saying it was 277 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: it was a domestic dispute, a girlfriend was basically beating 278 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: up her boyfriend. I guess people swear all the things 279 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: I've been reading, people swear she held up a gun. 280 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: I also saw the same. 281 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, the reports now are saying there was no evidence 282 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: of that, but glass, I guess shattered everywhere, and so 283 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: that's what scared, you know. But then you also have 284 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: to think in a food court, those chairs are really 285 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: heavy and loud, so people started panicking and those started flying. 286 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: So I think that maybe people thought that they heard 287 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: but everybody treated it as if, you know, And I 288 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: think that that's what's so weird about it now is 289 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: I was like, it wasn't a shooting, Like we were 290 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: not in the middle of a shooting. 291 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 4: But it felt like we. 292 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 2: Were in the middle, you know, you weren't. 293 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: I mean, you just. 294 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: It's just well, what some show and what has happened 295 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: and what we've seen, it's not like it's in something 296 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 3: that couldn't happen, right, So that's where it's like, I'm 297 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 3: glad that all the precautions were taken. Yeah, and that 298 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 3: it was taken seriously. Yeah, because the day that it 299 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: doesn't is when, yeah, it could be something terrible. 300 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean I think they were there in record time. 301 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: I mean I give props to I mean they're saying yeah, so. 302 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: But still what a crazy experience. 303 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was really really scary. 304 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: And then I mean I was like, Ramsey was just 305 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean, one sweet little girl was just I mean 306 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: a flood of tears. But Ramsey cried a little bit, 307 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: but she was pretty you know, she was like doing 308 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: her breathing and stuff. 309 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: So but she seems to be okay. I was worried 310 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: she was going to have PTSD. 311 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 2: For the rest of her life, but she said anything since. 312 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that night she slept with us, she had a 313 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: little bit hard time going to sleep. 314 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 4: I mean, she was emotionally exhausted. 315 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: But and then the next night, I mean she'll just 316 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: say things like, whenever I put on these clothes or 317 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: whenever I get this from Sephora, I think about that day, 318 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, and when we talked about it a lot 319 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: in the car and stuff, so like I just want 320 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: to get out of here, and she's like, I feel 321 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 1: like I'm too young to I have dealt with this. 322 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 2: Well, she's not wrong, right, yeah, And I was like 323 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: me too, I'm so sorry. 324 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 325 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: It was crazy. 326 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: I guess I didn't think that was the same day 327 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: y'all were there, Like in my brain, I saw it 328 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: come through. I actually texted I have a stylist friend 329 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: who's out there often, so I was like, I just 330 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: need to know you're okay. Yeah, and she was like, no, 331 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: I'm good. Not in the office. She calls it the 332 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 2: office crazy. 333 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. So anyway, so that was my part of my 334 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 4: lovely week. 335 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, dang girl. Yeah, well this is it. 336 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: You know. 337 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm like my update or whatever, I'm 338 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: gonna mostly go to because she'd wrote down there like 339 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: shows I'm watching. 340 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 4: There we go. 341 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: Let's I'm just gonna do a little light gap on 342 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: that bell, uh, gentlemen. 343 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: Netflix, p American Primeval also Netflix. We stowed it. 344 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: We started outcast on Netflix. It's like the series. It's 345 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: this reality series of these people that group up and 346 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 3: live in like Alaska to see how long they can last. 347 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: We started that last night and I'm like, I would 348 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: not make it one night in that freezing cold weather. 349 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: Did you finish? American Primeval. I finished American Prime Eval. 350 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: We did too. Would you think I was really sad? Shocker? 351 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: I cried, I was emotional. Yeah, I cried. 352 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: I was sad, but it was so beautiful, like very empowering. Yep, 353 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: so you all should definitely watched that. I started another 354 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: show that's an old show, but it was I think 355 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: it might be a little too You would hate it, Kristin, 356 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: I think it's a little too dark. 357 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: What is it? Yellow Jackets? Oh wait, this sounds familiar. 358 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 4: I loved Yellow Jackets until it just wasn't anymore. 359 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm only three episodes. I don't know if I 360 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: finished it. 361 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: But I'm also Paradise. I'm up to date on that. 362 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: That's on Hulu. That's with James Marsden Gerald McCraney, which 363 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 3: I checked. Texted him and I'm like, oh, I just 364 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: missed Gerald. 365 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: I started. Have you watched Lout? No on Apple TV? No? 366 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 3: Oh, I need everybody to get in Apple TV. Apple 367 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 3: TV does not promote any of their shows. I never 368 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: know any of the shows. It's a little treasure checking 369 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: is but that's my only date, and then Valentine's Day 370 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 3: is coming up, so I just kind of realize that 371 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: and I need to figure something out because I feel 372 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: like I put it always in his hands. Yeah, do 373 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: you know that every year person has to ask me 374 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: have we talked about this? 375 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: Yes? Yes? I love that still hasn't asked. Oh looks 376 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: like I have no Valentine And I'm how many days out? 377 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: Kat, you had said something in the group chat? Is 378 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: this on the rundown of things? Do we keep going 379 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: or is it something you want to Is it in 380 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 3: the host chat? Is it in the whine about it? 381 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: Because that's our next section of the. 382 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: Show might be I feel like I don't usually have 383 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: a lot, but I feel like this week has just 384 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: been a really rough week. 385 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: Well that's fair. 386 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: To segment two, so they'll get I'm not going to 387 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: do this every single time, but we're going to have 388 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: a section of the show where it's whatever is happening 389 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: in our life with kids or husbands, something you need 390 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: to vent on and need your friend's advice, because I 391 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: think a lot of times people when they come to 392 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: our shows, they relate to each one of us, and 393 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: you know, not every time are we going to have 394 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 3: something and it's not. I don't even want us to 395 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: feel bad about cause first time I heard this, I'm like, well, 396 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: what are we like venting about? We got great lives? Okay, great, 397 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: and this is frustrating me with either a kid or 398 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 3: a husband. And we are all friends. You guys are listening. 399 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: You know you're you're there to'll you know, hold us 400 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 3: up and you know be there too. So who wants 401 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: to kick this one off? And again we don't all 402 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 3: we don't all have to have one too, you know 403 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Like, it's just like each week, you know, 404 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,239 Speaker 3: one of us is bringing something to whine about it. 405 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: So Catherine go. 406 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry to be like the Debbie downer this week, 407 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: but it's just been like last week was a really 408 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: rough week. So we had a friend of ours who 409 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: committed suicide. I won't go into any details about this 410 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: person anything. I've known him for a very long time. 411 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: Nick is probably closer to him now, even though he 412 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: met him through me. But for me it was interesting 413 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: because and I don't know how much I've ever talked 414 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: about this before, but it was basically my feelings around it. 415 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: And where I want event is that when a suicide happens, 416 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: my immediate reaction is just anger. And a lot of 417 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: that goes back to, you know, my mother attempted suicide. 418 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 4: I think two or three times. I don't even remember. 419 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: I just remember that the last time she was on 420 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: life support, I walked in and I was just like angry, 421 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, and I walked out, which is a whole 422 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: nother story, and it's a lot. 423 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 4: But when these things happen, am I the only one? 424 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 4: I just go? 425 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: It just feels so selfish to me. And I understand 426 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: that there's a mental health part of it. I understand 427 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: all of that, but you know, with this story, these 428 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: kids now have no parents because the mother had already 429 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: passed away. So it's just I'm having a hard time, 430 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, and Nick is struggling with it. But I'm like, 431 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be there and I'm trying to be whatever, 432 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: but I'm still in such an angry spot about it. 433 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: It's just been a really hard It's it's hard. And 434 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: as I've seen things and I've looked at things, I'm like, 435 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: everybody's like, and obviously I'm sad and I will miss 436 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: him and you know all the things, I'm just I'm 437 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: kind of at an angry spot and it's just kind 438 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: of a hard I need help with that a little 439 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: bit because it's hard to get out of. 440 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 2: Well. Anger is just sadness typically, the root of it 441 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: usually is a sadness. So I think that feels very fair. 442 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: Angry is floating because you're protecting yourself a bit, Yeah, 443 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: because it's probably history, I HD but. 444 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 4: That's just yeah, I mean enough. 445 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: The connection between you know, for sure, is that that 446 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: you're you're still angry at your mom. Potentially there's a 447 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 3: percentage in there which then goes into the the angriness 448 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: to then somebody else who does right, Yeah, you know, yeah, 449 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 3: but I can what I When we talked about this, 450 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: it's it's hard to wrap your mind because it's like, yes, 451 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: we are obviously very what's the word, Uh, I don't 452 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: know the struggle of that mental health Like, yes, I've 453 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 3: got my own mental health issues, stuff with either anxiety 454 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 3: or whatever, depression at time, whatever it is. Like, you know, 455 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 3: when I was talking to Sarah about it, when we 456 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 3: talked about it, it's like we really don't know how 457 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: bad something must be for them to do that, you know, 458 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 3: and where we can go? Yeah, I'm like how I can't. 459 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 3: I don't I don't know how someone could when when 460 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 3: you're thinking about the kids aspect, how you know, again, 461 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 3: she didn't have a choice, you know, cancer took her life. 462 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: He had a choice. 463 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 3: And so that's hard for us to wrap our minds 464 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: around it because we are in a healthy mental spot 465 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 3: to look at it so like it must have been 466 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 3: bad or that to have been the only option. And 467 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: that's what makes me sad about it, like that that 468 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 3: people think that's the only option. And yeah, that's the 469 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 3: mental piece of it that I'm like, we don't know 470 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 3: how bad that was. 471 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's sad, Yeah it is. And I think 472 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm coming around to that in the sense that I'm 473 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: like as a father, I mean, I have to believe 474 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: that it was so bad that, like you said, that 475 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: he felt like that was his only choice, because to 476 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: choose to leave your children with no parents, I have 477 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: to believe that it was just so bad for him 478 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: that that that was his only option. 479 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 4: And I do. 480 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: And that's sad, and that's you know, and that's you know, 481 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: but it's just it's just a hard. 482 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. I have been to that place, the suicidal place before, 483 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 2: but I didn't have kids. Yeah, So I think Preston 484 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: and I talked about this a bit because that came 485 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 2: through while we were out of town, and I think, 486 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: like I just kept saying to Preston, I was like, 487 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: I hate that something was so bad that he felt 488 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 2: like they were better off without him, right, yeah, you know, 489 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: because I think that's the only place you could be 490 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: to make that choice, is to think like they're better 491 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: off without me, And I hate that for him. 492 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Or maybe it's even And that's the thing where 493 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: I guess we don't understand. Maybe you get to a 494 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: point where you're not even thinking about that. It gets 495 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: really dark, guys, like you're not even thinking about I 496 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: also think. 497 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: In the position he held, I don't think that. I 498 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know how well he felt like 499 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: he could lean in like we like, we're such a 500 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: tight community in Nashville. But when you hold a position 501 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: like that, people have this perception of you. And so 502 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 2: I feel like, and as a man, I know that 503 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: is a thing too, like that prideful right right? Yeah? 504 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: And I think that's where Nick is really struggling, because 505 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: they actually had a pretty deep connection and they talked 506 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: about a lot of things, and I think it's like, Han, 507 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: if only I would have known, not that you could 508 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: have done anything, but like you would never know. Having 509 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: no idea is such a hard. 510 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest thing I've learned. When I 511 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: shared my story finally, it was like people like, guys, 512 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 2: you just wouldn't you wouldn't know? Yeah, but why though? 513 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: What are what are? 514 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: Why won't you say something? So if when you were 515 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 3: in your suicidal moment, why didn't you feel like you 516 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 3: could talk to someone? And obviously we didn't know you then, 517 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: so I'm just like, why did. 518 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 2: I feel on the other side of that? How special 519 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: is that? Yes, very there's a lot of big life 520 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: on the other side of that. I get emotional. I'm sorry, 521 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 2: do you know I want to talk about it? 522 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 4: Okay? 523 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 2: Sorry guys. I have, by the way, not had those 524 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 2: thoughts after having kids because I have gotten better and 525 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 2: educated myself more. And I also just wish people could know, 526 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 2: like how many people feel this way? Like it's so wild, 527 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 2: so many people feel this way. I mean I will 528 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 2: once in a while go on my Instagram and just say, like, 529 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 2: if you were having like a perception of our world 530 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: right now? People are inundated with perceptions all of the time. 531 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: Most nine percent of the perceptions you're seeing are not 532 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 2: real life. And I feel like when I've gone on 533 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: and said like, if anyone's having a really hard time, 534 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 2: I want you to reach out to me, like I'm 535 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: going to stand with you in one more minute, you know. 536 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 2: But I just wish people could know you Guys like 537 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: a second husband, three kids, the friends I'm talking with 538 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: right now are all on the other side of that, 539 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 2: a whole life on the other side of that whatever, shame, guilt, sadness, 540 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 2: like you are not alone and there's people dealing with 541 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: it too, And I hate that people don't know that 542 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 2: they have that. It really makes me sad, Like it 543 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: makes me sad for him, It makes me sad for 544 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: his kids. I felt the sadness because I just thought, like, 545 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: why does he Why would he think that no one 546 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 2: would care about him enough to hug him and just 547 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: tell him it's going to be okay. I hate that 548 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 2: mm hmm. 549 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: And for someone who had a lot of people around, 550 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: so many, a lot of people, and that's scary as 551 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: an outsider who has not dealt with that, to see 552 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: that and go, man, it's not the person you'd think. 553 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: It's not the people that go many they look depressed 554 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: or they look you know, like they I mean, it's 555 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: that was very eye. 556 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 4: Opening to me. 557 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Robin Williams. 558 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 4: Yeah you know. 559 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 560 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 3: Well I really hate to go to my wine about 561 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 3: it one. 562 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 4: But I'm gone. Sorry, I really didn't know. 563 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 2: I did tell you I was emotional today. 564 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 4: Sorry. 565 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: Sorry, that's also honest I said to you today. I 566 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 2: was like, I'd rather you'd be heavy and honest. Yeah, okay, 567 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: I just because of our is it the. 568 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 4: Price that I don't want that? 569 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: But I'm winding so much about it that I'm looking 570 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 3: at chickens for a chicken coop, like to get to 571 00:25:59,440 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 3: have chickens. 572 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, hereybody, And if you can't, I can't. No one 573 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: will know your reeler has. 574 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 4: Something to say about that. 575 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: I don't get a rooster, you know, the behind that 576 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: no one will be if. 577 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 4: You had a rooster, this whole neighborhood would hate you. 578 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: I want first the eggs. 579 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 3: Okay, my wine about it, and this is just actually 580 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: it's an interesting topic too, but I am kind of 581 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 3: annoyed about it. So we have a friend, we have 582 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 3: a group chat going on right now. 583 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: And Alan and I and Alan and. 584 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 3: I talked about it because it also bothered him, and 585 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: so I was like, oh, and so we got to 586 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 3: have like kind of the kind of the conversation together 587 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 3: because he said, quote unquote, who leaves a group chat 588 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 3: without even saying goodbye? 589 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: And to have him talk. 590 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 3: About it is even funnier. So let's pind that for 591 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 3: tonight's dinner when we go out to dinner. But there's 592 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: someone in our group chat that that we that that 593 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 3: joined our group chat and then left without saying goodbye. 594 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: And that's my issue. 595 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 3: That's what I'm whinding about, because I have left group 596 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 3: chats now and I'm gonna tell you a few of them. 597 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 2: Nancy, sorry is she? 598 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 4: She? 599 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 2: Let's tell you. 600 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 3: But there was a fantasy football group and the last year, 601 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 3: I'm like, I can't do it this year. I didn't 602 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 3: have time and I did terrible the year before because 603 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: I didn't put time into it. So I was like, hey, 604 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 3: girls had so much fun last year, but I can't 605 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 3: do it again this year. I saw, I'm leaving this 606 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: group peace out, you know what I mean. I've left 607 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 3: some softball ones because or a soccer one because Jolie 608 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: isn't playing soccer this spring. So I'm like, hey, guys, like, 609 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 3: hopefully we'll see you in the fall, but I'm going 610 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 3: to piece out of this group. I've never left a 611 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: group message without saying at least goodbye, right, So it 612 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 3: bothers me that this person and I guess Alan too, 613 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 3: which is so funny. And so we got to talk 614 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 3: about it, and I'm like, I really want to bring this 615 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 3: to the girls to see their opinion. Do you announce 616 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 3: when you're leaving a group message? 617 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 4: Okay? 618 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: And but we have a girlfriend, Sarah, who was thinking 619 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: about it, hates group messages, hates them with a passion, 620 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: but she doesn't leave them. 621 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: Well putting her back. 622 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we keep putting her back, but she doesn't leave 623 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 3: them a lot, you know what I mean. And then 624 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 3: she'll voice and she'll be like, hey, guys, like, sorry, 625 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 3: I'm overwhelmed with the sixteen messages, which respect sure, Okay, 626 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: Lisia says something she also doesn't like them, but go ahead. 627 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 3: I love your take because for some reason, I'm sorry 628 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: I'm whining about it. 629 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: I don't like it. Just say goodbye bye bye something. 630 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: I mean, here's my thing. A I don't love when 631 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: you announce or not announce. You can mute it. For 632 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: this for what this group child also said muted. Well, 633 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: that's what Nick said, and it goes, I hate group chats. 634 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: He goes, all my group chats are muted, and he's like, 635 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: and I don't always respond. He was like, but I'm 636 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: not going to leave. So we talked about it too. 637 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: For what this purpose was. It felt very unnecessary even 638 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: to just kind of leave. So because it's not like 639 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: one that's going to go crazy, she's going to be She. 640 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: Left a representative in the group, which is why I 641 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: think she thought she can leave because her husband's still 642 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: in it. Also in the husband the defender. I'm like 643 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: the whole day, I'm like, this was a wild I 644 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: appreciated my own joke about it. I was like, oh, okay, 645 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 2: I will say I actually reached out to that person 646 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: and was like, you know, you can mute them, you 647 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: don't leave. Yeah, And she was like, wait, I can 648 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: mute this, and I was like yeah, She's like, my 649 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 2: life has changed. I said, you can mute anyone and 650 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: she didn't know that. So maybe we talk about that tonight. 651 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 4: No, I do. I'll say this. 652 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: I I was not you guys, I'm in a group. 653 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: I'm in a group. Chat. I've been in for four 654 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: years and I haven't seen these women in five years, 655 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: and I want to leave in the dark of night, 656 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: just really quickly. At one I am just leave conversation. 657 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 2: But now I'm like, well, I can't. I see it. 658 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 2: It did not bother me because I just know this 659 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: person's personality. I think is that, like, I know there's 660 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: an allergy to group chat. So I just it felt 661 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: like a Sarah Brice moment to me. But Sarah is 662 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 2: so explanatory. This one really just dipped didn't even know, 663 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: laughing emoji. 664 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 3: Like you want to be a part of something and 665 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 3: we're letting like, you know, we're including you in, you know, 666 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: and then you're just then take it. So that then 667 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 3: I was like, I would say that I think she 668 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: I don't know, and I'll be interested to see what 669 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 3: she has to say. I think because she left behind 670 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 3: such a fine representative of her household, she thinks that's 671 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 3: fine because she really will tell you he does all 672 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: the planning, right, Well, yeah, okay, that's so we'll have 673 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 3: to follow back to it when we have a conversation. 674 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: Talk about this when we have here though, or when 675 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: we had Macy on about like leaving it, leaving a 676 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: group chat, and if you do that for like attention 677 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: or whatever. 678 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh we did talk about that. 679 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: It just seems like I don't see that her either. Yeah, 680 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: it seems more like a Sarah like I'm overwhelmed. I 681 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: can't handle it. 682 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, which is very much her personality. It's fair if 683 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: you're wanting to be a part of I. 684 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 4: Just don't know if I would have rather been announced 685 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 4: or not. 686 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 2: I would like announcements chats. 687 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 4: Don't leave group chats. 688 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: I really don't like if I'm in like a group 689 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: for like a softball or something like that, or those 690 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: all make sense to me, but otherwise I'm like, I 691 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: just don't have to respond. 692 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, same moving fun. We're going to also do. 693 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 3: We're going to do headlines of the week, right, so 694 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: after we wind about it a little bit, a little 695 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 3: vent sash, we're going to talk about the headlines of 696 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: the week. Here are the headlines of the week. Do 697 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: we want to talk about Bianca nude? Grammy's look? I 698 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 3: would like to say if I looked like her, I 699 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: would be wearing no clothes all the time. Body is amazing, 700 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 3: exceptional a specimen. 701 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: Would you? I don't know, I don't know, and I 702 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: won't know you. 703 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 4: Actually, I don't know. 704 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: I would in Jesus' name love the opportunity to find 705 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: out if I would do that or not. I don't know. 706 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: Maybe I would. 707 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 3: The first thing I thought was wow, love the confidence, Like, yeah, 708 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: that was confident. The second thing I thought is everyone 709 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 3: has a different way of uh what's that word? Self 710 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: expression and fashion? But I had a hard time finding 711 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 3: the fashion and no clothes. I also would say, and 712 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get grilled. I don't care. I felt 713 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 3: a little. I felt like it was a little disrespectful. Well, 714 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 3: I'm My thing was I'm glad my daughter wasn't watching 715 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,719 Speaker 3: the show. Yeah, yeah, I don't want her seeing that. 716 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 4: Person want to see that personally, I don't want to 717 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 4: see that. 718 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 3: I leave. 719 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 4: That's just me. 720 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: I know I'm more conservative because there's so much that 721 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: can wait to see. But I have other issues with 722 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: this whole situation. Oh Cat's got double fingers. Have issues 723 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: with this situation. If you really watch the way it 724 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: all happened, she a looks like she's barely there. She 725 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: looks so distant in her eyes, and if you really 726 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: pay attention to the video, it looks like he is 727 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: telling her to do it and she is hesitant and 728 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: not wanting to take the jacket off. 729 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: Not like that. Oh, I need to read it to 730 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: her jacket. By the way, she's beautiful. She loved her jacket. 731 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: I also has a type. 732 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 4: Right first, I was like, are they back together? 733 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: To me? 734 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: And this is just my opinion, it felt controlled by him. 735 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: We know, we know as a society that he controls 736 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: what his women wear. He is the one behind saying 737 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: what they wear, and that felt very controlled. And to me, 738 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: she looked uncomfortable at first with wanting to and maybe 739 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, but I didn't. 740 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 4: That part of it really bothered me. 741 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: And a minimum she was cold at a minimum for sure, 742 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: so she was uncomfortable. Yeah, there's no way she was 743 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: saying room temp. 744 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. 745 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: So I think it's his art, not her art, which 746 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: is another issue of it. Just it's it's to me, 747 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: it feels him controlling her, and I don't like that he. 748 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: Should have to go naked too. 749 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 4: I don't want to see that either. 750 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 2: I don't either, but I don't think it would happen, 751 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 2: is my point. 752 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 3: Speaking of the Grammys, there was some. 753 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: Shooting. 754 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 3: I had had this already and I totally forgot to. Okay, so, uh, 755 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 3: there is a obviously Beyonce one best Country album. Can 756 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 3: we thought when we start with your thoughts about that? 757 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: So the whole thing where just about we're just talking 758 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: about where she won it. 759 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 3: I want what is your what is your thoughts on 760 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 3: her winning Best Country album? 761 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 4: I'm not the best person to ask that question. 762 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: I mean. 763 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: We it's not fans that are voting. First of all, thanks, 764 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: so let me start there. And so this is all 765 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: very controlled by a certain group people. 766 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 3: So let me just piggyback off of that, because this 767 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 3: was where I was going to go with with this, 768 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: like them, hate them whatever. John Rich tweeted out something 769 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 3: I personally, John Rich has always been lovely to me. 770 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: I've always I've always liked John Rich. I follow him 771 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 3: on Twitter. Uh do I agree with everything he says? 772 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 2: No? Do I agree with you know? You know? But 773 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 2: I do like I do like him. 774 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 3: So he had tweeted out something that said, folks are 775 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 3: asking me how do music award shows work? Labels, publishers 776 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 3: all have blocks of votes. They make deals with each other. 777 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 3: You vote for mine, will vote for yours type thing. 778 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 3: It has zero to do with who made the best music. 779 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 3: Thus Beyonce with Country Album of the Year, so and 780 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: he goes, And that's how it works for CMAS, ACMs, Billboard, 781 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 3: et cetera. All work exactly the same. Last night, the 782 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 3: Grammys outed themselves in a big way. So I think 783 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: there's the vast majority of people do not understand how 784 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 3: ward shows work. I did not know how award show, 785 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 3: how award shows worked until I was nominated when we 786 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 3: did the ACMs. Now this which is why I only 787 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 3: really technically like the fan voted ones, and even some 788 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 3: of those are slightly rigged, But like, I had no 789 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 3: idea that it was that's how that worked, and that 790 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 3: labels just traded and managers trade. Everyone just traded votes 791 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 3: and it wasn't actually about who was the best or 792 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 3: what was the best. And that's so sad to begin with. 793 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 3: I feel like it all should be voted by peers 794 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 3: and not just industry people trading votes. Personally my thing 795 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 3: now when it comes to you know, Casey musk Graves, 796 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 3: which is the headline, Casey musk Grave speaks out on 797 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 3: the alleged Beyonce diss after the viral reaction. First and foremost, 798 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 3: there have been many videos. Remember back in the day 799 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 3: when Faye Hill to carry Underwood and she was like 800 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 3: what and she does that face, you know, and that 801 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 3: was a whole big thing, right, and you know they're 802 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 3: both there's amazing, right artists whatever, every person that has 803 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 3: you all see like they've got a camera on their face. Now, 804 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 3: you know, to Casey's and she's you know, she basically said, 805 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 3: you know, she's like, I don't really care. It doesn't 806 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 3: affect what I'm doing. It's just, you know, I was 807 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 3: I've always just been doing my own thing. And that's Casey. 808 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 3: She's very much like she's she's like the coolest of cool, 809 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 3: like always super cool. And but my thing too is 810 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, of course she's going to be upset 811 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 3: she didn't win too, like she should have won, like 812 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 3: you know, or or lady or you know, like those 813 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 3: are pure country albums, you know, and so I who 814 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 3: doesn't want to win? So like, I'm sorry if her 815 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 3: reaction wasn't all like oh yay, like she didn't win, 816 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,959 Speaker 3: like of course she would want to win. So I'm 817 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,439 Speaker 3: I wonder to the people like that were like mad 818 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 3: at her reaction where it's like we're saying anything about it, 819 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 3: Like what would your face look like when you just 820 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 3: found out that you didn't win, Like okay, takes a 821 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 3: second to register, and then you're gonna clap, you know, 822 00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 3: for the other person, like you're going to be disappointed. 823 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 3: So like, well, that was silly to me that that 824 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,959 Speaker 3: even became a thing like of course, like. 825 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 2: Well then are we going to be met at Beyonce 826 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 2: for not being over the moon because she looked like 827 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 2: she had just gotten I mean she was shocked, shocked. Yeah, 828 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 2: so like then we could equally be like, well, you're 829 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 2: not a gracious one, you know, like that's crazy. Everyone's 830 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 2: allowed to be a human for a second, right. 831 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 3: And I like, you know, the people saying, you know, 832 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 3: even Beyonce had quoted too that she goes, this isn't 833 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 3: a country album. This is a Beyonce album. So like 834 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 3: she even herself said like this wasn't a country album. 835 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 3: So you know how she got into that category. 836 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 2: I don't know. 837 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 3: I like Beyonce music, you know, and I'm not even 838 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 3: going to touch on like any of that stuff. It's 839 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 3: just more you know, to Casey's thing, it's like, well, 840 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 3: of course, like she would have wanted to win, but 841 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 3: she wasn't actively trying to do anything against Beyonce. So 842 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 3: I just think that's a wild and ridiculous headline. 843 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: I think that. But at the same time, and this 844 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: is not Casey or Beyonce. At the same time, I 845 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: think people are naive to not realize how much. 846 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 4: There really is. 847 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: Between all these female artists, like not like actively like 848 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: fighting with each other, but there's a lot of competition 849 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: between all these female artists, especially in country but also 850 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: in the other genres. So to actually believe that they 851 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 1: all are really just yay, I hope so and So wins, Like, Eh, 852 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: let's just be real. Everybody wants to win. Like you 853 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,479 Speaker 1: said to Piggyback on that, no one's truly I hate 854 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: to say that, there's maybe few instances, but very few 855 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: of them are actually rooting for the other people to 856 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: beat them. 857 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna say something to Taylor Swift though 858 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 3: on this. I think I loved everything I saw about 859 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 3: because she didn't obviously take she didn't take anything home, 860 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 3: but her reactions she could have like to me, I'm like, 861 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 3: didn't even look like like she cared, which is awesome. 862 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 3: She was like having the best time ever. She was 863 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 3: having so much fun and like just cheering for everybody. 864 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,959 Speaker 3: Like I think she does it the best way because 865 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 3: it looks just like authentic and just cheering for everybody 866 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 3: and like truly like happy for each person that wins, 867 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 3: because she has won so much and she has well. 868 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people take especially Grammys 869 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: very different. Grammys are different kind of awards. Your typical 870 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: people who are especially in country, that are winning at 871 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: ACMs and cmas are not the people that are winning Grammys. 872 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: The people that truly are going for Grammys are I 873 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 1: hate to say this, but a little bit usually a 874 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: little bit more artistic, a little bit more really about 875 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: the music and that stuff really matters to them. Not 876 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: saying but maybe to Taylor, Grammys aren't that big of 877 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: a deal, like she's won, like look at her, you know. 878 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 1: Like so I do think that she genuinely is excited 879 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: for other people. But I also think that there's a 880 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: nice competition between all the females as well. 881 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 2: Well. 882 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 3: I mean, and to Casey Musgraves, like Architect is probably 883 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 3: one of my favorite songs, you know, Like, I don't 884 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 3: know if you guys listen to the album, but it's 885 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 3: a fantastic album. 886 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 4: And she's one has she won several Grammys. 887 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 2: I don't know how many of that she has one, yeah. 888 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: Because she's one of those artistic ones who's not going 889 00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,720 Speaker 1: to usually win at ACMs or CMAS. 890 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 4: But when Grammy's I feel like. 891 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 2: Your thoughts, kb oh word shows are hard for me 892 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 2: because I have I'm married to a few time nominee 893 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 2: and we go in knowing that we won't win well 894 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 2: because it's all political. Yeah, So it's just really yeah hard, Yeah, 895 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,240 Speaker 2: and I think they I think that that is probably 896 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 2: the most honest thing said so far by John Rich 897 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 2: or the most honest thing said about this is by 898 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 2: John Rich with him saying like they really pulled back 899 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 2: the curtain here. It's quite obvious. 900 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean it's one hundred percent truth what 901 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: he said, but it is I. 902 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 2: Would like to say too. On the artist side, I 903 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 2: think it's just wildly defeating when you're getting dressed up 904 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 2: and you're when when everyone's walking the carpet knowing that 905 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 2: they're not going to win. I mean, it's just. 906 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 4: Well and I think really unfair. 907 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,800 Speaker 1: It's interesting to bring that up because I've had several 908 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: artists I've worked with who are like, I don't want 909 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: to go, correct and then you kind of push them 910 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: to go or or you know what or whatever don't go, 911 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: and then people start complaining. Fans are like, why are 912 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: they not going? They're disrespecting country music? Well, you know, 913 00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: walking in, you're not winning, And. 914 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 2: It's a lot of money to it is. 915 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: You got to pay to go, you got to get ready, 916 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: you got to be red car. It's a lot, and 917 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: so you know, that's that's a hard part of it 918 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: where people start getting mad, why are people not going 919 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: to a ward shows? Oh they're not you know, they're 920 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: not winning, so they don't want to go, you know. 921 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: But I mean it's a lot. 922 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 2: I do think, Like for us specifically, we accept that 923 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 2: it is an honor and so we're always like we're 924 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 2: honored and you will always go. But I can see 925 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 2: how especially if you've been doing it a lot of times. Yeah, 926 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 2: it's never you right, just like okay, it gets defeating, 927 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. 928 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 3: Kylie Kelsey wasn't going to tell Jason if she went 929 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 3: into labor on game day. She goes, I'm the type 930 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 3: of person who's just going to do it. She explained, 931 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 3: So my answer to that, in a conversation with my 932 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 3: husband and I had was if I go into labor, 933 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 3: because they stay in the hotel and it before I 934 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 3: go into labor, and you are going to be playing 935 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 3: a game while I'm pushing this baby out. I'm not 936 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 3: telling you. What are your thoughts? So you, I mean 937 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 3: you haven't had your husband. Well, you've had your husband, 938 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:05,439 Speaker 3: but he's had to like fly out. 939 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have him, uh to two times he's 940 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 2: flown in and met me at the hospital, right, but 941 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 2: like he was there when you have the baby, Yes, 942 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 2: all three times. Would you ever not. 943 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 3: If okay, let's just put yourself in if he had 944 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 3: a game or whatever, would you not tell him that 945 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 3: you were going into labor? 946 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 2: No? So what are your thoughts on that? Then? Yeah? 947 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I maybe it feels different 948 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 2: because it's because it's sports, Like I mean, ours is 949 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 2: just one show. It doesn't go towards a total of anything. 950 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 2: We're not gearing towards a championship of anything. So that's 951 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 2: where it would be different. These are like life things. 952 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,280 Speaker 2: I know that it is football in his life for everyone, 953 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 2: So that's also very tricky and that's their livelihood. I 954 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 2: get it. So I don't know what it's like to 955 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 2: be married to a football player, but I can tell 956 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 2: you that ours was canceled the show and get home cap. 957 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 2: We don't cancel shows after the baby's here, though, just 958 00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,240 Speaker 2: so we're clear. So back out on the road we go. Yeah, yeah, 959 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 2: I mean, there's no like maternity unity. 960 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: I do think it's different. I think that the the 961 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: behind this is that if she tells him, then he's 962 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: going to be in his head and he's not gonna 963 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: perform his best at his game, and it's gonna be detrimental, 964 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 1: and that is a huge part of their let's keep 965 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: in mind livelihood, Like that's huge. First kid, who I'd 966 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,919 Speaker 1: have a hard time with it. Third kid, I would 967 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: have been like, it's fine, you know what I mean. 968 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 1: Like by the third kid, I was kind of like, 969 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: why you don't need to stay here tonight? Go home 970 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 1: with the kids, you know. But first kid, it just 971 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,800 Speaker 1: feels so I don't know, you know, but I would 972 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: have done the same thing. It would be hard, and 973 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be happy about it. I'd be really bummed, 974 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 1: but I would probably do the same thing. 975 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 2: And I do think people are made differently, Like what's 976 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 2: the thing. 977 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say about her, Like when 978 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 3: I look at her, I'm like she's she looks like 979 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 3: just a badass, Like she's like I got this, Like 980 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 3: I don't need you, I want you, and like I 981 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 3: love her. 982 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 2: I like I've always loved her vibe. 983 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,919 Speaker 3: I think she's really cool, Like she's someone that like yeah, 984 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 3: it just to be like a really on hang and 985 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 3: I could see her just being like, yeah, I like 986 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 3: I got this. And there's a piece of me that 987 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 3: like almost like envies that, like because I'm so like, no, 988 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 3: I need to hear like you know, I need you 989 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 3: to hold my hand through this because I'm gonna pass 990 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 3: out and freak out. Like there's like kind of that 991 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 3: piece where it's like I wish I could have a 992 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 3: piece of that badassness where it's like I'm like I 993 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 3: can do this, I got this. 994 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 2: I'll call you afterwards. Hey it's a boy. So like 995 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, true, I would so love that, Like that's cool, 996 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, but that is cool even for our family, 997 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 2: Like Preston goes back out on the road, it's like 998 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 2: but that's our livelihood and that's what we're that's what 999 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 2: we have to do, and I know that will work 1000 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 2: into the career. And so it's like I think, because 1001 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 2: I've been in the career, that's why I think maybe 1002 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 2: it works for them, because she is built different in 1003 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 2: the way that she can even be an NFL wife. 1004 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: What I'm saying, you have to be a little bit 1005 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: I could to be an NFL wife anyway. Right, it's 1006 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: such a mentality. I mean, think of all the things 1007 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 1: he's missed. I mean, I know a baby's the biggest, 1008 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: but all so at the same time, they're kind of 1009 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: used to that lifestyle and missing a lot and yeah 1010 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,720 Speaker 1: she's yeah, she's a badass. 1011 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 2: Have they had the baby? No? 1012 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 3: No, Okay, onto ending the segment. Guys, again, I want 1013 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 3: to do this like that. 1014 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 2: I just have to like structure. 1015 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 3: Thanks for verbally walking us through. Yes, this is how 1016 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 3: it's going to walk through. But we're going to always 1017 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 3: end the show with a little life advice. I think again, 1018 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 3: something that we love and that we've uh, you know 1019 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 3: when we went on tour was the Q and A 1020 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 3: session when someone would kind of either as ask a 1021 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 3: ask oh my gosh, ask us a question, or you know, 1022 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 3: tell them tell us about their life and you know 1023 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 3: how we can maybe help them. Again, we don't have PhDs. 1024 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 3: You're not therapist, but boy if we spent a lot 1025 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 3: of time in the couch, so so please DM us 1026 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 3: any questions to the wind Down account wind Down podcast 1027 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 3: on Instagram, any questions that you guys have and if not, 1028 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 3: we'll just leave you with a piece of life. 1029 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 2: So we have, but we did have a DM because 1030 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,240 Speaker 2: we asked yesterday. 1031 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 3: So here here it is high ladies looking for outsider perspectives. 1032 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 3: I'm a step mom to an adolescent girl and I 1033 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 3: have two of my own children. There is a lot 1034 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,399 Speaker 3: of tension with the biological mom of my bonus daughter, 1035 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 3: especially that she and my mother in law have more 1036 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 3: contact than I do with my mother in law, my 1037 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 3: husband an ex wife's marriage ended seven years ago. It 1038 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,959 Speaker 3: kind of hurts but also pisses me off. My mother 1039 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 3: in law thinks it's okay to send picks of my 1040 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 3: family to my stepdaughter's biological mom, so picks of my 1041 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 3: husband and our babies to his ex wife. I've literally 1042 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 3: only met her once in our six year relationship. My 1043 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 3: mother in law sees nothing wrong with any of this. 1044 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 3: She thinks it's just no big deal to share our 1045 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 3: life with my ex husband's ex, well, sorry, with my 1046 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 3: husband's ex. She also keeps secrets from us regarding what 1047 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 3: goes on when bonus daughter is at biological mom's house. 1048 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 3: Long story short, Is it normal that I've met the 1049 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 3: biological mom once? In sixs? And? 1050 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 2: Is? 1051 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,919 Speaker 3: And is it okay that mother in law has such 1052 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 3: frequent contact with her ex daughter in law love that's 1053 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 3: her ex daughter in law love from a Michigan mom. 1054 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 2: Woo woo, Michiganders. 1055 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 4: That's I mean, I don't know. 1056 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm not divorced, but I feel like the first question, 1057 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: is it normal to have only met once? Possibly? I 1058 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: mean I feel like that could be normal to not 1059 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 1: really be involved with. But do I think it's weird 1060 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 1: that the mother in law sending all of that and 1061 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: that that's not that seems to cross the line to me. 1062 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 2: So without is she's she assuming she's the glue? Is 1063 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 2: that what I'm understanding? Because because those are all her grandbabies, 1064 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 2: she thinks she can merge the world's Probably. 1065 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably. I just feel like that should maybe be 1066 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 1: a discussion, like, hey, are you comfortable with this? I 1067 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: won't do this if you're not, but here's why I 1068 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: want to do it or something. 1069 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,880 Speaker 3: I would go to the husband, yeah, and say this 1070 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 3: makes me feel uncomfortable that you're mom is doing this 1071 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 3: and getting on the same page with him, so that way, 1072 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,399 Speaker 3: it's not her just going to the mother in law 1073 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 3: and saying sure this, Like, I feel like that's where 1074 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,959 Speaker 3: the husband needs to step up and say, my wife 1075 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 3: does not feel comfortable with this, you know, can you 1076 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 3: not do this? 1077 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 2: I agree? And I also think I don't have anybody 1078 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 2: sending anybody pictures and my kids related or not related, 1079 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 2: like that's not up to them. Well, that feels very 1080 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 2: strange to me. 1081 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 1: Maybe depending on if the husband is in contact with 1082 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: the ex wife, Like I think it's appropriate if the 1083 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,359 Speaker 1: current wife is comfortable with her going straight to him 1084 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: and saying, can I have some pictures of the family 1085 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: if she wants them, Like, I don't necessarily think she 1086 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: needs to go to the mother in law. 1087 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:49,919 Speaker 4: She should just go to the dad. 1088 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'll say this, though, there is a generational gap 1089 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 2: that I think we need to acknowledge because that I'm 1090 00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 2: assuming that writer or that listener is around our age, 1091 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 2: and so we're dealing with a group of a different age, 1092 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 2: and they really love pictures a lot. Yeah, Like my 1093 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,919 Speaker 2: mom requests pictures so that she can just I'm like, Mom, 1094 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 2: you don't need to show you know, doctor so and so, 1095 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 2: because they if they cared, they could follow along, you know. Yeah, 1096 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 2: So it's like a weird. But also like we share 1097 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 2: on social media, so I know that seems counterproductive too. 1098 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,839 Speaker 2: I just it's it is just a different generation where 1099 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 2: like I think it's being probably she's coming from a 1100 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 2: place a gracious assumption. She's probably been super proud, but 1101 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 2: it does feel a little I think you're trusive. 1102 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 4: I think she should. 1103 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 1: She just needs to go to her husband and say 1104 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 1: she's uncomfortable and have him talk to her. 1105 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I actually don't even know who or if 1106 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,240 Speaker 3: the if the ex wife really enjoys getting these photos either. 1107 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 2: Think about it where I'm like I wife. Like, for example, if. 1108 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 3: Mike is having a baby with his girlfriend, Let's say 1109 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 3: they have a baby. If Pam sends me photo of 1110 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, no, who would that be? It would be 1111 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 3: how does that work? Yeah, it would be sending me photos. 1112 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 3: It would be like his mom, it would be it 1113 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 3: would be it would be But that's but is that 1114 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 3: the you know, because it would be my husband's be 1115 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 3: on the other side. But either way, like I, well, no, 1116 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,560 Speaker 3: that's not right because it's not an ex because if 1117 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 3: Mike was remarried, right, but would be this is my 1118 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 3: husband's mom. 1119 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 4: Oh we're ok ye ya ya yah, yeah, yeah, yeah 1120 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 4: it would. 1121 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 3: So I'm like, i'd like, okay, I'll say hi to 1122 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 3: the cute baby that I see that they make maybe 1123 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 3: one day, but like, I don't need you to send 1124 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 3: me a photo. And even if we were like cool, 1125 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 3: like and we're fine, like I accidentally this happens all 1126 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,240 Speaker 3: the time, but I every time I say hey, Siri, 1127 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 3: call Pam, it calls Pam her like, and then it's 1128 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 3: like I'm like and then it's like it's already rang 1129 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 3: the ones and she's like me and I was like, 1130 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 3: I didn't mean to. I was like, Hi, how you doing, 1131 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 3: And we have a conversation and she's so we're all fine, 1132 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 3: everything great. But like even if we had a good conversation, 1133 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I don't want pictures of my ex husband's 1134 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,240 Speaker 3: kid with his new wife. 1135 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: I don't we need to find that part out, Like 1136 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: I want I'm curious wife. 1137 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 3: Because maybe they can both come together and say hey, mom, 1138 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 3: stop fucking sending the. 1139 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 4: Pro could get together, but nobody wants these fights. 1140 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,760 Speaker 2: Maybe they're together for the second time in six years 1141 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 2: and that's the topic of conversation. 1142 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 4: Our advice get together with the ex wife and find. 1143 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 2: Out life advice. There, I have it. 1144 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 3: We'll hope you guys enjoy this episode and I rundown 1145 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 3: I loved it. 1146 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 2: Is this the conclusion of the show, Stay tuned for 1147 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:41,799 Speaker 2: next week. We're going to say bye now by bye bye.