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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolli and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolli. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and that we got some great news

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Speaker 2: here in the last twenty four hours for the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Not only was TJ. Watt cleared in concussion protocol yesterday.

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Speaker 3: It's nice.

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Speaker 2: Alex Highsmith was just cleared about half an hour ago.

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Speaker 3: So that's great. And obviously he was miss and you

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Speaker 3: know what, got pretty banged up early on in that

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Speaker 3: game too. They're tremendous players. But for this matchup, I

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Speaker 3: mean all matchups, that's great news. I mean, that's a

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Speaker 3: great pairing. I mean, like we could talk about them

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Speaker 3: against any tackle tandem they face all year, and boy

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Speaker 3: you want them in there, of course, But for this one,

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Speaker 3: yeah you noted Ray was really struggled with Frederickson last week. Hendrickson, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and he's a second year player that you know, is

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Speaker 3: a work in progress at tackle. It was a raw

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Speaker 3: player coming out of college. And high Smith, I think

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Speaker 3: is every bit the equal of Hendrickson. And what is

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Speaker 3: unlike anybody the Bengals have and they have a backup

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Speaker 3: right tackle.

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Speaker 2: Blade Freeland is a rookie right tackle and he'll play

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Speaker 2: because Braden Smith, their starting right tackle, is out for

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Speaker 2: this game. So the the reason why the Raymond Hendrickson

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Speaker 2: matchup was so key last week, they had put all

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Speaker 2: their help on the right side, even though with a

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Speaker 2: non want player, because they didn't trust Freeland to handle

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Speaker 2: what was coming off that side. Roberts he's not a

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Speaker 2: bad player, but he ain't want, you know. And so

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Speaker 2: you know, now they're going to have to do the

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Speaker 2: same thing this week and and hope that that Raymond

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Speaker 2: plays better against high Smith. But it wasn't pretty. Two

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Speaker 2: sacks he allowed, He had three four penalties total, one

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Speaker 2: was dismissed. So yeah, two sacks, three penalties. I think

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Speaker 2: it was like five hurries, two quarterback hit. I mean

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Speaker 2: he had a rough, rough day.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So talking about the little bit of these two

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Speaker 3: his prospects, like Raymond tested really well. He fell a

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Speaker 3: little further in the draft. He was old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was draft.

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Speaker 3: I think he's from Denmark or Finland. I mean he

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Speaker 3: didn't grow up playing play Germany. Germany maybe yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and didn't end up, you know, didn't grow up playing football,

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Speaker 3: so it comes in the league a little older and

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Speaker 3: people are like, man, he's a little already up in age.

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Speaker 3: And you know, so they got him around later than

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Speaker 3: some people projected. And he's starting to turn into an

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Speaker 3: okay left tackle, but he's gonna be a work in progress.

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Speaker 3: And then the other guy, Freeland. People might remember we

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Speaker 3: did draft coverage. He's like six ' eight but lean,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's like three oh five. I think he

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Speaker 3: was a tight end, ran really well to combine in

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Speaker 3: a straight line. But he's not a great spender or athlete.

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Speaker 3: And those are the kind of guy. It's not that

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Speaker 3: other kinds give what issues, but those dudes in particular

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Speaker 3: are problematic. I mean, because he's gonna get under his pads,

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Speaker 3: He's going to make them change directions. He's gonna beat

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I actually talked to Freeland last year at the Senior

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Speaker 2: Bowl and one of the questions, because most of the

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Speaker 2: BYU prospects are older.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Raven's the old prospect. He isn't.

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Speaker 2: He was a young guy.

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Speaker 4: He was.

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Speaker 2: I mean he started as a true freshman at BYU

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Speaker 2: So he was he was, you know, a guy who

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Speaker 2: he was he was very athletic. Sure, but he's a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a work in progress. I didn't realize he

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Speaker 3: started that many games at the college level because he

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Speaker 3: doesn't really look like it. I mean in terms of

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Speaker 3: is a prospect as a player. Their interior is good,

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Speaker 3: but that'll be harder, I would imagine. I know, I know,

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Speaker 3: we've talked about this a lot, like it'd be great

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Speaker 3: if Cam can draw a double team with Kelly and Nelson.

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Speaker 3: But if I'm the Colts, I'm gonna do everything possible

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Speaker 3: to say, Nelson, you got to handle Kyward, you know,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna have to, like Max protect every snap.

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Speaker 2: Well you can force that though, yeah, Yeah, much like

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Speaker 2: don't put him head up on on Nelson. Yeah, let

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Speaker 2: him slide over, or if he's gonna rush, make sure

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Speaker 3: Some helps if possible for help, right, So I think

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Speaker 3: that Will Fries he's kind of a guy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's played better late in the year than

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Speaker 3: he did early in the year, but he's just a guy.

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Speaker 3: So ogun, Joby, Benton, whomever should be okay. One, I

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Speaker 3: mean that was in one on one matchup. They probably

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and as you mentioned earlier in the week, they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a weird situation.

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Speaker 2: And you know, okay, so maybe that one might be

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Speaker 2: okay helping against DJ Watt, but the other on the

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Speaker 3: They rotate four of them and they all play like

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Speaker 3: the strategy all year. And I wonder, I mean I

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Speaker 3: don't study them like Steeler coaching staff, of course, but

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Speaker 3: when Johnny's in, do they run the ball? When Freddy's in,

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Speaker 4: You know what?

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Speaker 3: I mean, like there has to be some tells some

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Speaker 3: saw a lot of production to the tight ends the

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Speaker 2: I mean last week they played the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm talking about Steelers all productions tight ends.

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Speaker 2: I mean off against tight end Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I just think that you know, a lot

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Speaker 3: Watt, That's what I'm thinking, Like, I don't know, the

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Speaker 3: no matter who which one it is, it's out there.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's huge news for the Steelers and

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Speaker 2: it allows them to everybody else to kind of trickle

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Speaker 2: you know, you don't necessarily want uh, you know, her

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Speaker 3: No, he got kind of forced into the deep end

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's great news for the Steelers. Also out

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Speaker 2: for them is Jonathan Taylor, which is no surprise there.

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Speaker 2: He's he's just not ready yet. And you know Moss

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Speaker 2: slowed down in recent weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I mean he's still getting a heavy workload.

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Speaker 3: I mean, because they don't trust anybody else from what

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Speaker 3: can be out there for all downs. That's why we

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Speaker 3: like him. He's a hard nosed dude. But he's taken

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Speaker 3: more of a beating this year. I mean, just a

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Speaker 2: Of the season.

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Speaker 3: Now he's been out for two games since, and even

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Speaker 3: when he came back, they acclimated him a little bit slowly.

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Speaker 3: So Moss has gotten quite a workload and hasn't been

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Speaker 3: He's still handling the volume. You're like, for fantasy reasons,

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Speaker 3: maybe put him in your lineup because he does get

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Speaker 3: hasn't been efficient. I mean, he looks like a lesser

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The interesting thing, you know, if you look at Nelson, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Just last year was bad. Their whole line was bad,

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Speaker 2: He's he's not been a dominant player that he was

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Speaker 3: No, he hasn't.

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Speaker 2: Even when he was that dominant player early in his career,

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Speaker 2: Can handled him pretty well.

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Speaker 3: Last time I remember them squaring off, he kind of

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Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't studied him, but I think he

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Speaker 3: This year has been better than last, but it's been

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Speaker 3: the low point of his career in back to back years.

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Speaker 3: He's quite the curious if you see him in person,

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Speaker 3: just like this really thick, squarely built, big rectangular SpongeBob body,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you always wonder about that with some

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Speaker 3: You know, pro ready, what's their ceiling?

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Speaker 2: He hit the ceiling and now he's already started to decline.

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Speaker 2: I remember that Brendan STI comes to mind the old

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Speaker 2: Nebraska Yeah, the BA those Nebraska Unlocks. Those guys were

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Speaker 2: you know, they came into the NFL ready to play

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Speaker 3: They weren't fed Midwest run blocking tough guys.

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Speaker 2: There weren't too many of them that had staying.

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Speaker 3: Power, makes sense. I mean they probably take a lot

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Speaker 2: So you know, if Cam can hold his own there

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Speaker 2: and when it's time from time, yeah, and not only

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Speaker 3: And you can also force one on one matchups. I

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Speaker 3: mean your strategy as well in the A gap. But

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Speaker 3: if you blitze Land and Roberts up an A gap,

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Speaker 3: game plan quite a bit. He's a really good downhill player,

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Speaker 3: and then Kelly's got to pick him up, yeah, or

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Speaker 3: back you know. Yeah, he's kind of Atlanta. Roberts has

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Speaker 3: kind of been my unsung hero on this team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for the season.

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Speaker 3: I would mixed feelings when they signed him. I'm like, boy,

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Speaker 3: he's not real. He's not the athlete you want to me.

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Speaker 3: He's a downhill thumper. Belichick used him as a fullback,

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Speaker 3: some like is this the answer?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's.

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Speaker 3: I think they want at least one of them on

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Speaker 3: Okay, that sounds like a player. Yeah, it doesn't even

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure if you ask their O line coach

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Speaker 2: But they have a Freeland is the sixty ninth graded

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Speaker 2: No, it's been, it's been. I'm surprised it's that high.

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Speaker 3: I will say those is kind of off tokic topic.

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Speaker 3: But they put out and guys, I'm not bashing Pro

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Speaker 3: And I use a lot of their snapcount stuff and like, yeah, yeah, great.

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Speaker 3: Especially standalone game. Everyone's you know, fancy playoffs. I got

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Speaker 3: Since we're talking Pro Football focus, Minshew, I looked it

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Speaker 3: Well, that doesn't mean minshe's gonna run though, I mean

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Speaker 3: Well, RPOs is too broad a term because the Bens

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Speaker 2: But those are the ones you don't know.

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Speaker 3: See I'm not a coach, but the way I understand

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna Okay, you can beat me with RPOs

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Speaker 3: Real quick. I think they do that for Minshew because

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Speaker 2: I think they had initially set up to do it

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Speaker 2: point if Richardson was still there.

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Speaker 3: They knew he was his very limited experience and is

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Speaker 3: a tremendous athlete. So that makes all sense in the world.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to a break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale, LOLLI. You're listening to the drive here

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. When we come back, will be

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Speaker 2: joined by Bob Labriola, editor of Steelers Digest The Dean

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Speaker 2: of Doom.

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Speaker 1: Right after this, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he

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Speaker 2: being Matt Williamson, and we're pleased to be doing now.

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Speaker 2: By Bob Labriola, Editor of Steelers Digest, Steelers dot Com,

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Speaker 2: Steelers historian, All Things Steelers for Bob Labriola Labs. How

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Speaker 2: you doing pretty good?

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Speaker 4: How you guys doing great?

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Speaker 2: Be doing better? You know, if the Steelers would actually

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Speaker 2: win one of these games, that would that would help

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Speaker 2: things greatly.

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Speaker 3: One of the two would have been more much, much

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Speaker 3: more comfortable.

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Speaker 4: But here we are, well, comfort is not you know,

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Speaker 4: it's They've never the Steelers, in my thirty five years

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Speaker 4: of doing this, they've never been interested in your comfort mine.

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Speaker 4: Even even even seasons that end with parades in downtown Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 4: there have always been uncomfortable moments leading up to that game,

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Speaker 4: uncomfortable moments during that game. Uh it's never you know,

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Speaker 4: it's never fifty one to nothing when you need it.

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Speaker 2: It's never just fifty one nothing. Apparently, it's just you know,

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Speaker 2: they But so, Bob, these last two games, you know,

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Speaker 2: were not good, and they're there in many phases, in

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Speaker 2: many different ways. Was it just a bad week for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers in which they just happened to have two

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Speaker 2: games fall in that week, or you know, is this

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Speaker 2: a are there bigger underlying problems?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know there are. There were a

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Speaker 4: series of circumstances. I think, you know that can contributed

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Speaker 4: to some of the things that we saw, But I

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Speaker 4: also believe that some of the things we saw are

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Speaker 4: what this particular team is now. One of the situations,

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Speaker 4: one of the circumstances was, Okay, you lose your starting

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Speaker 4: quarterback in the middle of the first of the two games,

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Speaker 4: one against Arizona. Okay, so you bring in your backup.

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Speaker 4: You know that game ends not the way you wanted to.

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Speaker 4: But then you've got to come back on a Thursday

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Speaker 4: with another game, really with a quarterback hasn't who hasn't

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Speaker 4: played since the preseason, And you know, I get the

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Speaker 4: whole you know, you know, you practice and you go

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Speaker 4: to meetings and everything, but I mean it's just not

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Speaker 4: the same. And uh so you have a situation with

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Speaker 4: a veteran quarterback with some pedigree, but he hasn't really

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Speaker 4: practiced as if he was going to play. And you know,

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Speaker 4: you go into a you go into a game against

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Speaker 4: a head coach who you know, he may be seventy

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Speaker 4: one years old, and you know he may not be

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Speaker 4: what he used to be and he may not have

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Speaker 4: that you know, Tom terrific. Uh, you know, bailing is

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Speaker 4: bacon out of every tough situation you're ever in anymore.

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Speaker 4: But the guy can still put together a decent defensive

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Speaker 4: plan and you know, make life miserable for you. That defense.

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Speaker 4: New England defense is pretty good and so and then

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Speaker 4: you know, the Steelers just played poorly Thursday. You know,

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Speaker 4: Bailey Zappi seriously, but you know, it's one of those games. Again,

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Speaker 4: as I said, you know that I've seen the Steelers

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Speaker 4: do a lot of things in games to put themselves

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Speaker 4: in position to win, and they have won a lot

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Speaker 4: of games that way. So that's one of the characteristics

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Speaker 4: of this team. But another characteristic of this team is

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Speaker 4: that it's not good enough where it can't lose to

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Speaker 4: any team on its schedule. We've seen that lately too,

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Speaker 4: So you know, again, this is what they are and

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Speaker 4: now going into an Indianapolis. I think with usually it's

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Speaker 4: in a situation like this where you hear players leading

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Speaker 4: up to the game say it's like a playoff game.

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Speaker 4: We're treatment like a playoff game. You know that's just talk,

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Speaker 4: but I think in this situation it's a pretty accurate description,

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Speaker 4: because like early playoff early round playoff games, if you'll win,

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Speaker 4: you know it's not time to schedule the parade. But

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Speaker 4: if you lose, you're done. And that's pretty much where

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Speaker 4: I think they are right now. If they win, it

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Speaker 4: doesn't really guarantee them anything except another meaningful game the

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Speaker 4: next week. If they lose, they're not mathematically eliminated, But

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Speaker 4: I mean I wouldn't hold out much hope for a

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Speaker 4: postseason Labs.

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Speaker 3: This isn't an excuse at all. And anyone that's been

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Speaker 3: listening to my work for years, I really dislike Thursday

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Speaker 3: Night Football. I think it's an inferior product. I think

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Speaker 3: it's a really poor way to judge a team. There's

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Speaker 3: no practice, people get injured too much. And as you

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Speaker 3: were saying that about the whole quarterback situation and having

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Speaker 3: to flip it over in just a few days, I'm

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Speaker 3: sitting here the thinking the same thing happened on defense.

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Speaker 3: They lost a quarterback of their defense about the same time. Again,

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Speaker 3: these aren't excuses. You should still beat inferior teams, but

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Speaker 3: maybe I should have put more credence in that after

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Speaker 3: these two losses, and now you have nine days to

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Speaker 3: prepare for this one. So it's totally opposite.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, and that's just what they really

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Speaker 4: have to take advantage of this time of the time,

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Speaker 4: the extra time this time around. And that's why, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm really looking at this as a quote unquote playoff

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Speaker 4: kind of game, because this is one you have to win.

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Speaker 4: And it's not only you know, for what it gets

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Speaker 4: you in the immediate you know, the benefits of the

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Speaker 4: victory and the immediate now, but it's also sets you

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Speaker 4: up for what's next week and the week after that

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Speaker 4: and those kinds of things. And it's I know it's

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Speaker 4: a cliche and all that, but I mean, I really

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Speaker 4: am looking at this as a playoff kind of game,

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Speaker 4: And you know, I just hope that what we see

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Speaker 4: on Saturday is a better version of what I think

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Speaker 4: the Steelers team is and can be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, and I believe that will happen again.

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Speaker 2: I just you know, things happen. But if you look

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Speaker 2: around the league right now, are the Steelers really that

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Speaker 2: different from anybody else? What's going on outside of like

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Speaker 2: four or five teams at the top of everything. This

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Speaker 2: is what the league is right now.

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Speaker 3: Only six and seven NFC teams, only seven and six.

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Speaker 2: The Chicago Bears are right now. Have earned the fifth

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Speaker 2: overall pick in the draft. That's what they've earned. That's

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Speaker 2: what they've played to. They're one game out of a

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Speaker 2: playoff spot in the NFC.

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Speaker 4: I'll get well, yeah, but you know, I think that

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Speaker 4: there are countless examples of what you just said, and

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Speaker 4: I don't disagree with that, but I think that, you know,

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Speaker 4: the Steelers are where they are because of, you know,

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Speaker 4: the cumulative of their season. I mean, they're they're at

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Speaker 4: seven and six, teetering on the brink, you know, because

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Speaker 4: of some awful offense early, you know, some injuries, all

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Speaker 4: kinds of different factors, and so you know, it's a

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Speaker 4: it's a cumulative effect is an NFL season in my

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Speaker 4: opinion for teams, and you know, the Steelers, you either

571
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 4: reaped the benefits of your early season performance and you know,

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Speaker 4: your ability to squeak out wins or avoid losses or

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Speaker 4: losing streaks, or however it may have unfolded for you earlier.

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Speaker 4: So you either reap the benefits of that in you know, December,

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Speaker 4: or you suffer the consequences of it in December. And

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Speaker 4: I think what we're seeing right now is some of

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Speaker 4: the suffering of the content sequence consequences. You know, you go,

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Speaker 4: how many weeks it was without a four hundred yard

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Speaker 4: game on offense? How many weeks should go with not

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Speaker 4: four touchdowns in the game on offense? How many weeks

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Speaker 4: should go with having trouble stop in the run or

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Speaker 4: without playing complimentary football in terms of you know, one

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Speaker 4: unit picking up the other, or one unit capitalizing on

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Speaker 4: what another has presented for them, often on a silver platter.

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Speaker 4: And so yeah, there's the league is weird. The league

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Speaker 4: is weird.

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Speaker 2: And as a very wise man once said, worth a

588
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Speaker 2: semi wise man, or guy who wasn't very wise at all,

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Speaker 2: the NFL season is a marathon, not a sprint.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I thought you were gonna say it's a fine line.

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Speaker 2: Well that's.

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Speaker 4: It. Is that because let's let's look at one of

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Speaker 4: the Monday Night teams. So the Miami Dolphins any good

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Speaker 4: or not?

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Speaker 3: I can't answer that they're the most replexing of every team.

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Speaker 4: Right, yeah, I mean they might not win another game.

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Speaker 3: Right right. That was the worst loss of the year

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Speaker 3: by point spread, of any game this year, you know, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, right, and you know you look at you know

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Speaker 4: the things you remember about that, just seventy points against Denver,

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Speaker 4: you know that kind.

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Speaker 2: Of stuff that seems like forever ago.

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Speaker 4: Right. Here's here's here's the stat from NFL research on

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Speaker 4: the Dolphins game. From Week twelve, twenty seventeen, until the

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Speaker 4: end of the Monday night game, teams that trailed by

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Speaker 4: fourteen or more points with under three minutes remaining were

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Speaker 4: oh and five hundred eighty.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 4: There you go again. As I said, they good or not,

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Speaker 4: I don't know the answer. I mean, ask somebody in

611
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Speaker 4: Philadelphia what they think of the Eagles, now, sure, I mean,

612
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 4: they're ready to cut people and fire coach. What are

613
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Speaker 4: they eleven and three? You know, it's it's it's just

614
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 4: an extremely weird situation and it is every year. It

615
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Speaker 4: really is. I mean, this is this is what the

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Speaker 4: way that the whole business model has been creative. What

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Speaker 4: it's supposed to yield is exactly what you're getting. If

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Speaker 4: you want to call it parody, okay, if you want

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Speaker 4: to call it mediocrity, okay, whatever it is. You know,

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Speaker 4: picking the word to me is really immaterial. To the

621
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Speaker 4: point of it is is to have the situation chaos

622
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Speaker 4: if you wanted or you know, competitiveness or whatever. Again,

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Speaker 4: pick whatever word you want, but you want it. The

624
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Speaker 4: league wants it to be what it is right now

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Speaker 4: with this very little clinched there's so much up in

626
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 4: the air. And the one the one thing that that

627
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 4: New England Steelers game taught and I truly believe this.

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Speaker 4: I would never bet on football. I don't because the

629
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Speaker 4: more I'm around it, the more I know I don't

630
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Speaker 4: know anything about it. But that whole, that whole over

631
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Speaker 4: under a thirty and a half, to me, was one

632
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 4: of those situations where just when you think it's absolutely

633
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 4: positively going to be one thing, it's the other absolutely

634
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 4: and that that was it. You know, the football gods

635
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 4: got together and said, you know what, all you people

636
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 4: who think this is gonna be low scoring, will it's not.

637
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: It's not going to be. And what go over in

638
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 4: the first half, isn't it.

639
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: Quarter? Right?

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Speaker 4: Okay? You know that's that's the NFL. If you want

641
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Speaker 4: to know, if there someone would say to me, you

642
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 4: know what one thing would you cite the would describe

643
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Speaker 4: what this NFL season is or has been so far?

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Speaker 4: That's what I would pick. Just when you think it's

645
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 4: absolutely positively one thing, it turns out to be the

646
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Speaker 4: other and so, and I think that that could happen

647
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: a few more times before this is over. Certainly a

648
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 4: lot more times when you go league wide, but maybe

649
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 4: a few more times with the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Even so, that Dolphins win that seventy point game was

651
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Speaker 3: in the scalding one hundred degree heat. I mean, like

652
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Speaker 3: to Dale's point, that feels like, you know, two seasons ago.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it feels forever. But Labs, do you agree

654
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Speaker 3: with me that if the Steelers are to save their

655
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three season, it has to start with their

656
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: running game. I mean one hundred and twenty to one

657
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy yards a game that I think they're

658
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Speaker 3: capable of getting back to.

659
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's you know, they playing that way

660
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 4: I think is kind of conducive to the kind of

661
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Speaker 4: roster that they have. You know, I do think that

662
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 4: this is a team. You know, it's not going to

663
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 4: be a high wire act ever, so you can't count

664
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Speaker 4: on scoring a lot of points and you can't count

665
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 4: on giving up too many and still be able to

666
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Speaker 4: come back. So if you're effective running the ball, you know,

667
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 4: you're controlling time of possession usually which limits you know,

668
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 4: the other team's opportunities against your defense, which sometimes it

669
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 4: can be very good, and sometimes you just scratch your

670
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 4: head and say, you know, where are all these great

671
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: players we supposedly have the this unit. But you're controlling

672
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 4: time of possession, You're you're controlling kind of the field

673
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 4: position game because, as I say, if you don't have

674
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 4: a high flying offense, I don't think you can count

675
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 4: on too many quick strike, big chunk kind of plays

676
00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 4: that ring up the scoreboard. And you know, you you

677
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 4: beat the snot out of the other team too, and

678
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 4: you know usually opponents get tired of that. So yes,

679
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 4: I would agree that their ability to run the football,

680
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 4: or get back to the way they were running the

681
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 4: football before these couple of games against the Cardinals and

682
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 4: again in New England, that will help them tremendously. And

683
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Speaker 4: I think they are built for that. I think they

684
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 4: have the backs for that, and you know, the offensive

685
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 4: line for it too, you know, if you keep it.

686
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 4: I don't know what kind of blocking scheme it should be,

687
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 4: but it seems to me the more north south running

688
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 4: power kind of running plays are more conducive to the

689
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 4: personnel that the Steelers have and the way they can

690
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 4: be effective running the ball. Then you know, outside zone

691
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 4: or you know, any of that kind of more finesse

692
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 4: running running scheme. So, yes, Matt, if you're gonna pin

693
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Speaker 4: me down, yes, I agree with what you just said.

694
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Speaker 2: And I don't think anybody would look at the way

695
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 2: that either Nausea Harris or Jalen Warren run the football

696
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: and say there's anything finesse about them. You're kind of

697
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 2: painting the barn red with your red paint.

698
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and that's what you have. And the

699
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 4: other thing about those two guys is I think they

700
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 4: compliment each other nicely and you can continue. You know,

701
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 4: two is better than one if they both do the

702
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 4: same thing, are both capable of doing the same thing,

703
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 4: because then you can do the same thing for a

704
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 4: lot longer with two guys splitting the workload. Then you

705
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 4: would be able to with one. And so yeah, I mean,

706
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 4: I don't know how easy it's going to be able

707
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 4: to be to run the ball against the Colts. I

708
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 4: know they better do They better handle the Forrest Butner

709
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 4: because if they don't, this guy is gonna make it

710
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 4: miserable for them. I mean, the Colts front is not

711
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 4: it's not as soft or porous, you know as some

712
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 4: of the ones that the Steelers really loaded up on

713
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 4: with rushing yards, you know, after the Browns game, in

714
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: that little stretch there between the Browns and the Cardinals

715
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 4: or the Browns and the Pakes.

716
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Speaker 3: It's actually so with with nine days to prepare with

717
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: Trubisky as a starter, what kind of like aggressive index

718
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: do you think they want him to Are they going

719
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 3: to keep it close to the vest, Mitch, We need

720
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: you to make some downfield throws, drive it in tight windows,

721
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: or you know, how do you think they handle that?

722
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: He's a different style and picket obviously, Well.

723
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you know that that's the thing. It's

724
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 4: you know, to me, there's accept for the outcome of

725
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 4: the play. There's very little difference when you're when you're

726
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 4: referring to decision making by the quarterback, which is what

727
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 4: I think you're getting to it. There's very little difference

728
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 4: between Oh, I'm just giving my receiver an opportunity to

729
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: try to make a combat catch versus you just threw

730
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: it into coverage. If it's if it's a completed pass,

731
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 4: good job, you put it in a play for your

732
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 4: receiver to make a play. If it's picked off, your dummy.

733
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 2: You threw it in the coverage.

734
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Speaker 4: And the thing I don't know is seriously, and the

735
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 4: thing I don't know is how does he know before

736
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 4: you know the end of the play. How do you

737
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 4: teach him the difference between those things? Well, how does

738
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 4: it look different on film or on the field or whatever?

739
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 4: You know, because you can, certainly and we been Hey,

740
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 4: I've been saying it. I'm sure you guys have too.

741
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 4: You know, throw the ball up the pickens if even

742
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 4: when he's covered, he's not covered, give him a chance

743
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 4: to make a play. Okay. Uh so you do that

744
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 4: a few times and it doesn't turn on so good. Well,

745
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 4: now you're forcing it into cover.

746
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: Don't do that.

747
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to that. I'm not smart

748
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 4: enough or experienced enough in the nuances of the sport

749
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 4: to be able to answer that intelligently. Maybe it's a field,

750
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 4: you know, and maybe that's something that is you know,

751
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 4: because of Trubisky's rust in terms of running the Steelers

752
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 4: offense in games against live competition. You know, that's really

753
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 4: showing and his decision making it as I just described it.

754
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 4: You know, maybe that gets better over time, but you

755
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 4: don't have any more time. It needs to be better Saturday.

756
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has to if you have to go now.

757
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: Our guest has been Bob Labriola, editor of Steelers Digestive

758
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: Steelers dot Com. And Bob, if you don't know the

759
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: answer to these things, Matt, and I sure is held

760
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: on them, but we're gonna let you go. We appreciate,

761
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 2: uh you hopping on here with us, and uh, well,

762
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: we'll see you next week against the Bengals, and we'll

763
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 2: see if we have a Steeler's victory to talk about

764
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 2: here next Thursday. Or if we're talking about draft picks.

765
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 4: Well, you know it's I know nothing about the draft

766
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 4: before the day of the draft, the day before the draft,

767
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 4: so I'm hoping we're talking about something else.

768
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769
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Speaker 2: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back

770
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774
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784
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Speaker 2: com and met Bob. You asked Bob about the running game.

785
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: If Isaac Sayamalo doesn't play for the Steelers now, he

786
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 2: didn't practice all week long. Yeah, yeah, he played through

787
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: that injury last week. Herbig's not bad, No, he's not.

788
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: But Herbig will get Buckner. There's Buckner on the other side.

789
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Speaker 3: I think they kind of nose three technique. Yeah, because

790
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 3: Stewart is back from suspension. We've talked about that yet

791
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: this week. To be honest with you, Stuart's their nose

792
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: guy and Buckner's the more of the three technique that

793
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: lines up on the outside shoulder of the guard. You

794
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 3: on this, you know, And so they flop. I think

795
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: this team flops left right because of based on formation.

796
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: But I'm not to ignore your question. I'll get to

797
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 3: it in a second. But Stuart, that's one thing. They

798
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 3: have a little bit of bad luck here. Been nice

799
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 3: to get him one one more week. You know that

800
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 3: he wasn't around. He's an underrated interior player. He's their

801
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 3: best run stuffer, but he's also pretty active. And people

802
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 3: don't know Stuart well enough, but he's a good player.

803
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: So the answer is both. But Buckner I'm sure will

804
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: be lined up on the left guard plenty. One of

805
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: the few minor bright spots from the Cardinals game to

806
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: me though, was when herbig came in formal who I

807
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: thought he did really well? Yeah, I mean so last blush.

808
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: I was impressed. And now this is a different test

809
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: than the Cardinals line, that's for sure. And Buckner is

810
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: a really good player. But yeah, it wouldn't be the

811
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: end of the world. But Ciamal who's been playing very well.

812
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 3: It's been a really good guard tandem for the Steelers.

813
00:41:59,000 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

814
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: I'll be into did to see how they handle that

815
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 2: match up here inside Stewart's Grover Stewart's six four three

816
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: and fourteen pounds.

817
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: He's ever been a three four games.

818
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was back against Cincinnati and played well.

819
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 3: He played last week too.

820
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he's been back. That was his first

821
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: week back. I think it was a six game suspension

822
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: for PDS from me.

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00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: I remember.

824
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Speaker 2: Now, they were better last week against Cincinnati stopping the run.

825
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: What they didn't stop were the Bengals backs in the

826
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Speaker 2: passing game.

827
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Speaker 3: That was a real problem. Yeah, and I will say

828
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 3: this is not a great tackling team. They're a little smaller,

829
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 3: they can bounce off to the run stuff. Yeah, yeah,

830
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: they're They're really good because they are fast. They're really

831
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 3: good at getting a lot of bodies to the ball carrier.

832
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: But they're one on one tacklers aren't great. They also

833
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 3: caused a lot of fumbles. They just haven't recovered many

834
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 3: of them. But they've caused a lot. But that was

835
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 3: really a problem. I mean, like that Chase Brown played,

836
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: there's a blown coverage. It wasn't like, boy, he just

837
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 3: did great things. He just caught the ball and ran

838
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: straight down the sideline exactly like It's usually not that easy. No,

839
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: you're right though, I mean throwing to the backs was

840
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 3: very profitable for the Bengals and should be for the Steelers.

841
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think, you know, to me, not that

842
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 2: not that Najie Harris can't catch the football. We've seen

843
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: him do that, right, But I would I would expect

844
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: some you know, to see Jaylen Warren maybe with some

845
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: misdirection stuff, maybe some screens, maybe get him out, you know,

846
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: on the edge, roll the pocket the other way, and

847
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: then you throw back or whatever it may be, just

848
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: to kind of get their defense front because again, they're

849
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: in zones. It's going to be zone oh ninety percent

850
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: of the time. If you can get that zone to

851
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: one side of the field and then get the ball

852
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 2: to the other side quickly, yeah, you know, he can

853
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: make some stuff happen.

854
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Speaker 3: And I don't know if the Steelers will break any

855
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 3: long plays like that. Chase Brown one mixing had a

856
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 3: long one too, But Warren's more likely to than Harris.

857
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 3: I mean just run away from the defense type of thing,

858
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: you know, untouched down the sideline. So I kind of

859
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: agree with you because we've only talked about that. But

860
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: I'm in this dynasty league and I have to start

861
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: either Harris or Warren. I picked Warren this week. I

862
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 3: think he's gonna catch because yeah, I mean was a

863
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: tough call. Nause, He's probably more likely to get in

864
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 3: the end zone. But I think Warren catches four or

865
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: five passes in this one.

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Speaker 2: I would agree. I mean if if if they don't

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Speaker 2: do that, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: If they're struggling to move the ball and they're not

869
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Speaker 3: throwing the backs, I won't understand it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I won't. I won't get that one.

871
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Speaker 2: I'll be critical when we get back here on Monday,

872
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Speaker 2: like why didn't they throw to the backs?

873
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Speaker 3: Sure, I mean it'll be different if they're running up

874
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 3: and down the field and doing things, yeah we haven't suspected, but.

875
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're moving the football and they're doing it without

876
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: using the backs in the passing game.

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Speaker 3: Fine pickings this torture them or whatever or something we

878
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 3: didn't foresee, But yeah, I would think that you go

879
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: into this game thinking the ball needs to go to

880
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 3: these backs in the run game with heavy personnel. In

881
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: the past game. The other thing is we play heavy personnel.

882
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: Mitch is such a good runner. You could go empty

883
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: and still have a run threat with six to zero lineman,

884
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: three tight ends, whatever you want, and put Warren out

885
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: there on tire Franklin or whomever and take your chances

886
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Speaker 3: that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even mind, you know, if you're if

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Speaker 2: you're screening the ball to one of your tight ends

889
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Speaker 2: or whatever, just just because again, if they're gonna play

890
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: soft zones and I can get my linemen out there

891
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 2: to block on some of these guys, you're gonna spring

892
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Speaker 2: some stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean. And again I think their past rush

894
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 3: numbers are a little skewed because they gotten a lot

895
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Speaker 3: of them in bunches. We were talking about this off

896
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 3: the air today they played the Giants in Washington when

897
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: they were just hemorrhaging sacks left and right. But I

898
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: do think that they do sack the quarterback and rush

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Speaker 3: the quarterback well. And where I'm going with this is

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Speaker 3: if you can do those type of plays like you

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00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: just said, quick screen to Connor Hayward, you pick up

902
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 3: four or five yards. If I can be in third

903
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: and two and not third and six, I'm a lot

904
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 3: more comfortable against this team on the road, in a dome,

905
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Speaker 3: in a loud environment, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I haven't looked up to see exactly

907
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: how those sacks lined up for them, but I do

908
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: know that, you know, they the Giants and Washington, they

909
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: played some sack heavy teams that they had zero last week,

910
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: right against a Bengals team that we know now Bengals

911
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 2: are getting rid of the ball quickly, but they still

912
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: never got to the quarterback this week.

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Speaker 3: It's not a great protecting team though that, but they

914
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 3: do have good pass rushers. They think they're one of

915
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: the only teams in the league that have four guys

916
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 3: with five or more sacks. It's you know, Quidty Pays

917
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: coming into his own. The other edge guy's name, I

918
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Speaker 3: forget off the top of my head, lines up on

919
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Speaker 3: the right is a good edge bender as well. Buckner

920
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 3: is a good player. So they got some guys.

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Speaker 2: I will say this since Week seven, the Steelers pass protection. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're allowing a twenty nine point eight UH pressure rate

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Speaker 2: since Week seven. That's third best in the league.

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00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 3: That's something we haven't talked about much either, but the

925
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: Steelers protection has gotten noticeably better throughout the season, and

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Speaker 3: sack numbers all the above. Trying to see the one

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Speaker 3: that I dug up here a minute ago. They've only

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Speaker 3: given up twenty seven sacks a season. I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: eighth best in the league. Yeah, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I know they prefer to run the pass, but it's

931
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Speaker 3: not like they're not throwing the ball. I mean, twenty

932
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Speaker 3: seven sacks in middle December is not too bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not bad like that?

934
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And again that was Bosa Garrett. I mean

935
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Speaker 3: he played some dudes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to get to a break. He is

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the

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Speaker 2: drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. That's going to do

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Speaker 2: it for our number one. We'll be back with our

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Speaker 2: number two right after this