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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, Armstrong and Gatty.

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Speaker 2: Enough he.

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 3: I'll start, as we often do here at the Department

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Speaker 3: of War, with the bottom line up front for the

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Speaker 3: world to hear and the press to actually admit that

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Speaker 3: the United States is decimating the radical Iranian regimes military

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Speaker 3: in a way the world has never seen before. Never

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Speaker 3: before has a modern capable military which Iran used to

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Speaker 3: have been so quickly destroyed and made combat ineffective, devastated.

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Speaker 3: We said it would not be a fair fight, and

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Speaker 3: it has not been.

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Speaker 1: That is all true. However, it doesn't really have anything

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Speaker 1: to do with the issue of the day. Was just

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Speaker 1: the whole strait of Hormuze situation. Anyway, We'll get to

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Speaker 1: that in the second. This is getting a lot of attention.

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Speaker 1: As Pete hegsit. The Secretary of War describes the current

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Speaker 1: Supreme Leader.

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Speaker 3: We know the new so called not so Supreme Leader

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Speaker 3: is wounded and likely disfigured. He put out of statement yesterday,

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Speaker 3: a weak one actually, but there was no voice and

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Speaker 3: there was no video.

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Speaker 1: It was a written statement. He called for unity.

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Speaker 3: Apparently, killing tens of thousands of protesters is his kind

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Speaker 3: of unity. Iran has plenty of cameras and plenty of

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Speaker 3: voice recorders. Why a written statement. I think you know why?

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Speaker 3: His father dead. He's scared, he's injured, he's on the run,

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Speaker 3: and he lacks legitimacy.

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Speaker 1: It's a mess for them who's in charge. Iran may

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Speaker 1: not even know we blew off his beer. I told

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Speaker 1: you disfigured beardless. So I think that's baiting the guy. Hmm, like,

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Speaker 1: show your face before we get into the substance of it.

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Speaker 2: Does Pete hags Eth not sound to you like a

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Speaker 2: guy who's ready to fight you right now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? He does sound like that.

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Speaker 2: I mean like if a reporter took a run at him,

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Speaker 2: there wouldn't be that half second of oh my god,

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Speaker 1: No, he'd be cocked and ready. Let No, he'd be thinking,

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Speaker 1: finally I wanted to fight somebody, That's right. That's why

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Speaker 1: the Colin Jost portrayal of him is that way. When

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Speaker 1: they comes out all right, listen up, dip whats Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I love virtually everything he says, though, Yeah, I think so. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The strikes of the substance, the straight of horror mooze situation.

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Speaker 1: He was asked about that. All the chatter now is

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Speaker 1: did you prepare for this properly? And he was asked

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Speaker 4: Here, yeh sugar, you have said that the US midal

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Speaker 4: jay is essentially aerial superiority, naval supiority over Iran.

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Speaker 1: Yet we're not escorting ships in the Strait of wour Youth.

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Speaker 1: Why how did you not.

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Speaker 4: Plan for this?

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Speaker 3: We plan for it, We recognize it because ultimately we

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Speaker 3: want to do it sequentially in a way that makes

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Speaker 3: the most sense for what we want to achieve and

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Speaker 3: ensure that we're sending the right signals to the world

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Speaker 3: when we do so. So when Chris Wright speaks or

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Speaker 3: we speak, it's based on a full assessment of what

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Speaker 3: we're up against, what we want to say to the world,

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Speaker 3: how that we want them to see and understand the conflict.

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Speaker 1: So go ahead, well, I was going to say.

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Speaker 2: Kim Strassel wrote a brilliant column for The Journal this morning,

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Speaker 2: Trump's energy triumph, and he writes, she writes, the democratic

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Speaker 2: media complex, which we just heard right there, seems determined

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Speaker 2: to get everything wrong. About Iran, though few efforts compare

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Speaker 2: with this week's work to tag the Trump administration with

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Speaker 2: the global energy crisis. Not only is this uninformed and overdone,

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Speaker 2: the sudden concern over energy security comes about three years

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Speaker 2: too late. And she points out that Trump and his

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Speaker 2: drill baby drilling, and we gotta be self reliant and

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Speaker 2: have domestic production. Fredy, oh, yeah, that is absolutely made

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Speaker 2: this situation. I can't put a percentage on it, but

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Speaker 2: much much, much less damaging than it could have been.

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Speaker 2: And to hear the Democratic media saying we've got to

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Speaker 2: have oil flowing.

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Speaker 1: It's so important that oil flows, and Trump's not doing

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Speaker 1: I thought this was really interesting for Mark Alpern's newsletter

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Speaker 1: today because he has sources in the White House that are,

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Speaker 1: the president. So here's what he writes. In its initial days,

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Speaker 1: with people in and around the administration, including some who

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Speaker 1: support the mission, I have developed real doubts about where

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Speaker 1: this thing stands. He said. Let me be careful here,

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Speaker 1: because this is the kind of subject where people hear

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Speaker 1: what they want to hear. I'm not saying the original

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Speaker 1: objective is foolish. I'm not saying the mission cannot still succeed.

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Speaker 1: I'm certainly not saying that to question the execution of

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Speaker 1: a war effort is somehow to root against the United

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Speaker 1: States or its military. That is not serious thinking. It

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Speaker 1: about Walter Cronkite famously, you know, questioning the war at Vietnam,

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Speaker 1: and Lyndon Johnson, President at the time, saying if I've

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Speaker 1: lost Walter Krunkite, have lost America, and Mark Helprin says,

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Speaker 1: I am not Walter Cronkite. But right now, the biggest

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Speaker 1: problem is not abstract. It has a named the Strait

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Speaker 1: of Hormuze. If the United States and allies cannot reopen

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Speaker 1: that waterway to commercial shipping, then much else about the

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Speaker 1: effort becomes secondary, maybe at least somewhat useless. Doubts have

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Speaker 1: grown over whether or not they had prepared properly, or

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Speaker 1: that they have a plan to deal with this. The

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Speaker 1: pre war cogitation is that thinking fancy words for thinking fancy.

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Speaker 1: The pre war cogitation by Team Trump about the Strait

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Speaker 1: have been insufficiently planned for, and a failure to open

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Speaker 1: many analysts and sources say, could lead to world oil

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Speaker 1: likely create catastrophic consequences worldwide. I like a lot of

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Speaker 1: what he said. One more thing and then they go

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Speaker 1: perfect deleted. The question being asked now, including by allies

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Speaker 1: of the administration inside the Beltway, is how the United

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Speaker 1: more fully developed answer on two obvious fronts, hormus and drones.

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Speaker 1: Hm yew the drones thing? Is there on earth a

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Speaker 1: satisfying answer to that question? I have no idea that's the.

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Speaker 2: Great military challenge of our time. That seems a little unfair,

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Speaker 2: the Hormuz thing. Maybe they didn't really have a plan,

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Speaker 2: to their own oil exporting they wouldn't want to make

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Speaker 2: which is enormously important to their oil industry and exports

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Speaker 2: a hold of that and shut that down now, right. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's a hell of a problem the.

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Speaker 1: Whole they didn't have a plan. They didn't have a plan.

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Speaker 1: We're in the middle of a war. It may be

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Speaker 1: just and look, I know always in favor of the

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Speaker 1: for that analysis is maybe down the road. Well, if

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Speaker 1: we have to do now is a question, Well, if

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Speaker 1: this reporting is true, is reporting is people inside the

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Speaker 1: White House who are supporting of this mission are saying,

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Speaker 1: did we not have a plan for this? Oh? Boy,

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Speaker 1: so that's what he's reporting, right, Okay, fair enough. So

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Speaker 1: I wonder just to end here, no matter how supportive

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Speaker 1: legitimate you believe the aims of this conflict to be,

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Speaker 1: there is reason for concern, not panic, not despair, but

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Speaker 2: The more I think about it, if you were to

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Speaker 2: or levers that Aron has closing the strace, so horror

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Speaker 1: It's right there at the time, possible that they completely

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Speaker 1: hope we hit them so hard that they can't cause problems.

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Speaker 1: I guess either way. I mean, you still might come

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Speaker 1: down to either way. Tomorrow at two o'clock, the Supreme

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Speaker 1: hit him or we don't. Excellent reminder. Yeah, and it

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Speaker 1: might just be that. But this looks like a stick,

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Speaker 1: but a problem. This looks like a problem, like a

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Speaker 1: real problem. How we get that open back up again?

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Speaker 2: The other factor that may well be at work here,

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if Halpern's been talking about this

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Speaker 2: maybe until recently, gets religious fanaticism. He thought the usual

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Speaker 2: levers applied in the usual ways violence, you know, such sanctions, whatever,

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Speaker 2: would get the usual results that he's gotten from, say Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: He thinks everyone's a businessman. Yeah, yeah, that's a good

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Speaker 1: way to put it. I don't think he gets that.

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Speaker 2: No, No, they will watch their entire country and every

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Speaker 1: They give into the Great Satan. And they themselves are

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Speaker 1: willing to die, which because then they'll be at Allah's

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Speaker 2: So many virgens. He got to like learn all their names.

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Speaker 2: I mean that just seems respectful.

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Speaker 1: Anybody around, anybody here with a little experience, huh, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: can just say, have you know, like how about forty

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Speaker 1: virgins and thirty two galzu who know what they're doing?

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Speaker 1: Forty five year olds have been around the block, Come

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Speaker 1: on here, got the skills?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, I'm not a.

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Speaker 1: Scholar. You're not a scholar. I'm not an expert on

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Speaker 1: the Koran. No hi karama. These are weird times.

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Speaker 2: Well well, well, on a lighter note, Bigfoot is rampaging

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Speaker 2: across Ohio. I've been digging into those details.

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Speaker 1: And seems legit to me, and I want to get

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Speaker 1: to this later because there are some interesting philosophical discussions

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Speaker 1: that have around it. If they actually have figured out

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Speaker 1: how to freeze brains and then thaw them back out,

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Speaker 1: what does that flipping mean going forward? Horrifying zombie apocalypse?

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Speaker 1: I think, or certainly, you know, preserving your your brain

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Speaker 1: for a future where maybe they could put it in

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Speaker 1: a body that the future doesn't want my brain. The

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Speaker 1: present hardly does. There's always that. Okay, we got lots

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Speaker 4: Benito Mussolini's granddaughter will compete on Celebrity Big Brother in Italy.

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Speaker 4: Is the weirdest combo of Dictator's descendant reality competition since

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Speaker 4: Survivor was won by Brenda Hitler.

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Speaker 1: Obvious punchline. So but okay, the word is crepo preservation.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's the official term. For freezing a brain

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Speaker 1: and bringing it back alive, and it's never been possible

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Speaker 1: till now, and that when you freeze a brain it

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Speaker 1: destroys the cells and you can't thought out and have

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Speaker 1: it still work. But they figured out a way to

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Speaker 1: freeze the cells in such a way that it doesn't

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Speaker 1: Democrats should judge the war on its merits good for him.

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Speaker 2: He opens with every past president since Bill Clinton Republican,

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Speaker 2: a Democrat alike, has declared that Iran could not be

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Speaker 2: permitted to develop nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 1: I know, not one acted to prevent it. I know

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Speaker 1: there's several examples of that, but stating over and over

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Speaker 1: again one thing, it is certainly true. And how many

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Speaker 1: presidents say this, Iran will not be allowed to get

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Speaker 1: a nuclear weapon and everybody cheers, but you don't do

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Speaker 1: anything to enforce that. Yeah, Trump finally does, and you

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Speaker 1: kill him for it, he writes.

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Speaker 2: Every president since Ronald Reagan has condemned Iran's role in

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Speaker 2: terrorism against American citizens, interests, and allies.

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Speaker 1: No one acted to stop it. Instead, each president left

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Speaker 1: his successor with a more dangerous Iran and a more

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Speaker 1: complicated threat to address. Last June, President Trump undertook a

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Speaker 1: limited military operation does to interrupt the development of nuclear

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Speaker 1: weapons and discourage them from continuing blah blah blah. In

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Speaker 1: the face of Iran's refusal to come around, he began

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Speaker 1: the current military campaign. I'm summarizing now back to the text.

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Speaker 2: If he hadn't acted, his successor would have been left

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Speaker 2: with an even more dangerous choice than his predecessors left him.

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Speaker 2: Three or four years from now, the Uranian missiles now

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Speaker 2: hitting Iran's neighbors could be hitting Berlin or London, perhaps

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Speaker 2: even New York or Washington, perhaps with a nuclear device

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Speaker 2: or at least a dirty bomb. No sensible person wants

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Speaker 2: a war a president, at least of all. Wars destroy lives,

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Speaker 2: waste treasure, and are usually unpopular. But the widespread hostility

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Speaker 2: to this military action seems untethered to any serious discussion

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Speaker 2: of the merits.

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Speaker 1: What is the alternative? He asks, Boy, that is exactly

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Speaker 1: what we've been saying. And I think reasonable people have

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Speaker 1: been saying, when I hear endlessly on all these other channels,

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Speaker 1: why are we doing this? They still haven't explained. Yes

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Speaker 1: they have. Every president has explained it for decades. We

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Speaker 1: can't let Ryan get a nuclear weapon, and they're the

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Speaker 1: weakest they've ever been, so let's stop them now.

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Speaker 2: Obviously that's the end of the discussion. Well, Ran right,

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Speaker 2: it should be, But he asks, what is the alternative?

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Speaker 2: Obviously few are prepared to say it is simply to

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Speaker 2: permit religious mad men who swear death to America and

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Speaker 2: back up their threats with terrorism, just to hear nuclear

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Speaker 2: weapons and the capability to deliver them. The scope and

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Speaker 2: scale of Iron's response shows how much its military capabilities

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Speaker 2: have progressed and how dangerous it would have been to

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Speaker 2: permit them to increase further. For three decades, we've tried

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Speaker 2: everything that each president could think of. We'd try being nice,

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Speaker 2: talking tough, moral suasion, negotiated agreement, economic sanctions. None worked.

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Speaker 2: The problem is that there's only one language Iran's leaders understand,

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Speaker 2: and he goes on in that vein. But then he

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Speaker 2: points out, I also.

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Speaker 1: Understand and deplore the fringes of both parties that apparently

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Speaker 1: hate Israel and Jews so much that they oppose any

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Speaker 1: action to neutralizer on Israel's enemies. What is harder to understand,

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Speaker 1: particularly troubling for our country, is opposition rooted simply an

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Speaker 1: antipathy toward Trump himself. We used to you know.

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Speaker 2: And he goes into the history blah blah blah, and

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Speaker 2: then he goes into most important criticisms have historically been

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Speaker 2: based on policy differences over the military action at hand,

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Speaker 2: not knee jerk opposition to the president himself. Many Republicans

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Speaker 2: supported mister Clinton's military actions and President obama surge in Afghanistan.

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Speaker 2: Many Democrats supported George W. Bush's actions in Afghanistan, and

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Speaker 2: at least initially Iraq. More Republicans than Democrats probably supported

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Speaker 2: LBJ in Vietnam, et cetera. But this is just knee jerkism,

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Speaker 2: and he points out it's just terrible for the country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was listening to a podcast yesterday in which

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Speaker 1: they were discussing the fact that it sure seems like

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Speaker 1: they're rooting against us on a lot of these cable

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Speaker 1: news shows. Yeah, I would say so that they want

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Speaker 1: a negative result, that they would be gladdened by a

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Speaker 1: negative result. And you know, the following the whole bomba

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Speaker 1: of the school thing, they're really you could I feel

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Speaker 1: like you could tell they're really hoping we hit that school.

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Speaker 1: That's that turns out to be true. Yeah, they're really

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Speaker 1: excited about reporting it. I could hear it in their voices.

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Speaker 1: That's weird. You think any sane human being would have

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Speaker 1: a spirit of oh man, this is bad news, folks.

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Speaker 1: It looks like it was our missile. But no, their

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Speaker 1: tone was, oh, this is great. This is exactly what

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Speaker 1: I've been saying. The US is evil because that's what

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Speaker 1: they think and enjoy thinking it. For some reason, it

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Speaker 1: gives them comfort the crowd that it makes them feel

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Speaker 1: good to hate on America. So we feel.

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Speaker 2: Enlightened and accepted by their peers for expressing hatred of

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Speaker 2: their own country.

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Speaker 1: That's the long and short of it. Clearly, all right,

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Speaker 1: we got more on the way. Stay here.

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Speaker 5: Chipotle is set tomorrow to offer customers with tattoos buy one,

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Speaker 5: get one free entrees from three to four pm. Well,

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Speaker 5: customers without tattoos will probably just oh somewhere nicer.

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Speaker 1: Iran has stated their preconditions for a ceasefire. Oh so

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Speaker 1: they're pretty hilarious. Oh, but we'll get to those in

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Speaker 1: hour three.

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Speaker 2: Also, one of Jerry Garcia's most famous guitars was auctioned

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Speaker 2: and they expected it to get one to two million dollars.

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Speaker 2: It went for eleven and a half million dollars. Which guitar,

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Speaker 2: the Tiger guitar. Okay, holl it wow? Eleven million?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, if you're a super grateful dead fan

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Speaker 1: who's got more money than you could possibly spend in

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Speaker 1: a lifetime, it'd be freaking cool to have.

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Speaker 2: What would your networth have to be to suspend eleven

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Speaker 2: and a half million dollars on a guitar? Like I

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Speaker 2: would buy one of John Lennon's guitars or Paul McCartney's

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Speaker 2: Hoffner bass or something like that.

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Speaker 1: If I had unlimited cash a tremendous amount, it'd have

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Speaker 1: to be eleven and a half million. You'd have to

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Speaker 1: have like two hundred and fifty million, wouldn't you got

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Speaker 1: at least? Yeah, you're gonna spend five to ten percent

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Speaker 1: of your net worth on a guitar. Huh, anyway, happy shopping. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I said, do you know what a drop is? It's

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Speaker 1: super hot in marketing these days. Everything's a drop. If

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Speaker 1: everything's a dropped, then nothing's a drop. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: dropping tomorrow or the next hour. Rather, So back to

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Speaker 1: bitter partisanship and this, don't anybody freak out. We're going

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Speaker 1: to point out that Trump and the Republicans did something dumb, and.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna point out that the Democrats are flaming hypocrites

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Speaker 2: of the highest order.

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Speaker 1: So a little criticism for everybody.

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Speaker 2: It's about the jerrymandering fight that the Republicans arguably the

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Speaker 2: mid census. Normally you wait to look the what do

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Speaker 2: you call it, disenial census, every ten year census to

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Speaker 2: do redistricting. Well, Trump was afraid of losing some house

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Speaker 2: somehow seats in Texas, and so he redistricted to kind

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Speaker 2: of beef up, you know.

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Speaker 1: Our chances. The Republicans' dances are hanging out to the House.

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Speaker 2: And of course the Democrats are taking their revenge by

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Speaker 2: further gerryman daring California and Virginia. And it is on

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Speaker 2: Virginia that we're going to cast our gaze for a minute.

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Speaker 2: And here's why the absolutely hilarious things being said and

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Speaker 2: the people who are saying them about the gerrymandering in Virginia.

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Speaker 2: The ballot language for the referendum, which is going to

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Speaker 2: be in April, asks if voters want to let the

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Speaker 2: legislature adopt a new House map to restore.

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Speaker 1: Fairness, quote unquote, by which Democrats.

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Speaker 2: Mean they'll be favored in four additional districts, pretty safe

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Speaker 2: looking districts, so they can take ten out of the

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Speaker 2: state's eleven seats to restore fairness. They're going to be

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Speaker 2: taking ten out of eleven seats in a state that

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Speaker 2: went forty six percent for Trump, so last year.

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Speaker 1: Practically a fifty to fifty state when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the presidential election, and it's going to be almost entirely

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Speaker 1: ninety one to nine yes with the representation. And if

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Speaker 1: you haven't seen the way the lines are being drawn,

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Speaker 1: it's the most maybe the most egregious in the history

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Speaker 1: of germandering, which goes back to the founding of the

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Speaker 1: country right Indeed, and no one is talking about it,

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Speaker 1: by the way, You're still hear talk about Texas and

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Speaker 1: how outrageous it was they did what they did Barry

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Speaker 1: Obama has now endorsed the referendum because, of course he

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Speaker 1: is quote Free and fair elections are the cornerstone of

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Speaker 1: our democracy, but right now they are under threat, he

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Speaker 1: said in an online video.

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Speaker 2: This amendment gives you the power to level the playing

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Speaker 2: field in the mid terms this fall. What a way

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Speaker 2: to characterize giving nine percent of Virginia seats to Republicans

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Speaker 2: when they won forty six percent of the presidential vote.

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Speaker 1: The ironies abound.

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Speaker 2: During his last State of the Union address, Obama said,

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Speaker 2: I think we've got to end the practice of drawing

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Speaker 2: our congressional districts so that politicians can.

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Speaker 1: Pick their voters. Yes, not the other way around. Correct,

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Speaker 1: Let a bipartisan group do it. I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama an outfit like I don't know. The Virginia

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Speaker 1: Redistricting Commission in twenty twenty, two thirds of the voters

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Speaker 1: gave approval to a constitutional amendment to create the body,

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Speaker 1: which is split between Democrats and Republicans, lawmakers and citizens,

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Speaker 1: but it ended up deadlocked after the twenty twenty census,

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Speaker 1: a frequent problem with such commissions, so Virginia's current House

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Speaker 1: map was drawn by bipartisan experts under the state Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: Watch blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: But now Obama calls for a gerrymandering exception in Virginia

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Speaker 2: rather than the principles he so long espoused. You wonder

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Speaker 2: why people turn off politics and politicians just go about

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Speaker 2: their lives. I mean, that is just, that's beyond hypocrisy.

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Speaker 2: That's just it's disgusting.

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Speaker 1: Race to the bottom. Yeah, I mean, it's punching us

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Speaker 1: in the general littles intellectually. It's an unforgivable attack. That's

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Speaker 1: quite a phrase. Is that the best you can come up?

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Speaker 1: It's punching us in and the genitals intellectually, Yes, utterly,

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Speaker 1: by anybody's standards, a horrible thing to do. We do

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Speaker 1: not have time for this kind of silliness. I agree.

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Speaker 1: What a piece of crap you Wow, that's rough. That's

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Speaker 1: part of an I apologize. We're checking on the Iran war.

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Speaker 1: There's some interesting doings. I hope you can join us

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Speaker 1: in our three