WEBVTT - Robert Glasper (Part 1) 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:03.200 Hey, I'm Norah Jones and today I'm playing along with 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:05.160 Robert glasper part one. 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:15.880 I'm just playing lone Wezy, I'm just playing in lone wey. 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.239 Hi, welcome to the show. I'm Norah Jones and with 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:25.480 me as always. Hi, Sarah Oda, It's me Sarah Oda. Hi, 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:32.840 Sarah Hi ah Hi. 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:36.400 This episode makes us both sigh at the same time. 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:41.080 This was so much fun. Also, this episode we recorded 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.200 as part of a trip to la we went. 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:47.320 On together, and it was definitely a highlight of our trip. 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:49.680 It was such a highlight. And also it was such 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.600 a fun trip and crazy and now I'm having memories 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.560 of our trip just thinking about this episode. In that day, 0:00:56.120 --> 0:01:00.280 after we were done with this episode with Robert, we 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.360 went and had dinner and we were just like, we 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.399 stuffed our face so pasta. We were so happily, we 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:08.759 were high. We were kind of high on on. 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:10.520 Podcasts and pasta. 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:10.880 Yeah. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:17.959 Basically, our guest today is a pianist, songwriter, producer, composer, 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:24.720 range ordinaire all around incredibly talented human Robert Glasper Yay. 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:31.400 He is also quite a special personality. 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:35.000 Yes, he's very uplifting. He like just listening to him 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:36.360 talk make I feel. 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:39.240 He makes me happy. Yes, just being around him and 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:43.679 his energy is beautiful, it's contagious. He's he's a he's 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.399 one of those good humans that you know, you just 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:47.559 are happy to be around. 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.600 Yes, he walks in the room and everybody's just feeling 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.920 a little bit better, a lot, a bit better. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.000 A lot better. He's so kind. And we start off 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.160 this episode talking about it, and we'll talk about it 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:02.760 a lot, I think. But I actually met Robert for 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:06.040 the first time when I was fifteen years old in Denton, 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:10.120 Texas at Jazz Camp, Jazz. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:13.359 Summer Camp, Jazz Camp at Jazz Camp. 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:19.760 Have a story a podcast. I do have a story 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:23.640 like that, but not for the podcast. But yeah, it 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:30.120 was so awesome thinking about knowing Robert at that time 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.800 and we were just babies, you know, and it's just 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.799 so sweet. And we've we've actually, you know, seen each 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:40.359 other over the years. We've recorded a song together, I've 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:43.080 sat in with him a couple of times at shows, 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:47.240 but we've never gotten to sit down and hang like this. 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.280 So this is this was such a special thing for me. 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:54.000 This episode felt like a high school reunion in a bottle, 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.840 you know, just like just hearing all the names of 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:59.560 people that you both grew up with and were in 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:01.839 spy by people who were just you know, a couple 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:03.720 of years older than you, but you looked up to. 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:06.840 And I feel like maybe really set the foundation for 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.720 the path that you ended up being on. And even 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.000 though you both you and Robert had different paths, you 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.160 crossed paths and you know, kind of connected in different ways. 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.680 It's it's so fun to hear like the journey that 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:20.040 he's been on since then. 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:24.720 He's in, his journey has been incredible. And it's definitely 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.960 a shout out episode. So I think we have to 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.040 tag everybody that's in this episode. 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:31.240 Sohow we will? 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:35.640 Yeah, because there's there must be like one hundred hundred names, 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.280 so many names talk about. We talk about a lot 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.280 of special people in this episode. 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.800 So many connections. I mean, I feel like this episode 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.040 was like just longing to happen, you know, and then 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:47.800 when you started playing music, it felt like you could 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.800 just play a hundred songs and not run out. You know. 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.880 Yeah, I wish, I wish we had more time, but 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.520 this was a long episode, so we decided to make 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.240 it a two parter. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:01.080 Oh, I thought you're gonna go low. 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:04.520 Okay, let's start it. So we decided to make it. 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:06.680 A two part. 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.120 Should like an echo? 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.360 Oh yeah, okay, and we should keep this part into 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.680 no this is this is not cool? Okay, all right, 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:20.720 So please enjoy this episode. It's a little shorter than 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.080 normal because it's going to be a two parter overaller 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.919 but worth it. Worth it, and then be sure to 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:29.360 tune in again for the second part when it comes out. 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.240 And I hope you enjoy. Please go see Robert Glasper 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.040 play wherever he is playing. You will love the show. 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.280 He's got Obtoberfest coming up in New York City at 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.960 the Blue Note in October. I think yep. 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.599 He does his like month long residency there. 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:46.479 Yeah. 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:50.000 It's pretty so, yeah it does. It's a tiny, tiny club. 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.040 I'm hopefully going to sit in on one of the shows. 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:53.760 Don't know which one, but. 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:59.040 And congratulations to Robert for winning his why are. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:00.240 You yelling all of a sudden. 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:11.160 Congratulations, No, congratulations to Robert for winning his fifth Grammy 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.160 just this year for Best R and B Album Black 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:14.920 Radio three. 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:18.919 Yeah, that's awesome. Enjoy our episode. Hope you enjoyed the 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:23.480 episode with Robert Klasper. I'm excited. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.800 Oh yeah, look at us. We're here. We are here. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.440 It's you know, Oh, we're on. 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:29.080 Oh, we're on. 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.640 It's only taken us how many years to actually play 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:34.720 music together together. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:34.960 In the same room. 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.160 Yeah, I mean remember when I first I don't know 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.920 if you remember, because okay, for those of you don't know, 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:40.920 we met a jazz camp. 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:41.840 I don't know where I'm looking. 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:43.000 Oh, you don't have to look anywhere. 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.040 Yeah, so we met a jazz camp. We're both in 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:46.080 like eleventh grade or something. 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.760 Yeah, I think we're fifteen or sixty fifteen or sixteen. 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:53.000 The jazz camp at Villeville in Dnville, Danville. 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.279 Denton, Texas, Denton, Texas and Texas. 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:58.480 You and T Denton, Texas U and T University of 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.120 North Texas. That's right, that's right, in a jazz camp. 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.760 After that jazz camp, the next time I saw you 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:04.840 was at the new school. 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:06.680 You were in the practice room, practicing. 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:08.839 I've heard you tell the story. 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:10.599 And she was just playing and I walked by, and 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.360 I was like, because I haven't seen her at that 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:17.200 point in probably like three years or something forty years, Yeah, like, what. 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:17.760 Are you doing here? 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:19.640 You're like Oh, my friend let me in the practice 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:21.800 room so I could probably working on a demo. And 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.200 then after that day, next time I saw you was 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:25.960 on the Grammy's holding all the Grammys. 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:27.200 I was like, you went from the I'm. 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.279 Working on the demo to all these Grammies and I 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.840 was like, oh my god, it's crazy. And then after that, 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:35.600 I remember each time I saw you after that, I 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.039 did this thing with the Roots at Radio City Music. 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:38.320 Oh. 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.160 I was there, Yeah, and me and you. 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.400 Were both sitting on the on the side of Questlove. 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.400 This is when he was really big. We sat there 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.240 for an hour, probably didn't see each other because that 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:48.599 was on the right side of him. You were on 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.839 the left side of him, and we both reached for 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.080 like ice or some chips. That's literally what happened. We're 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:59.040 both like, We're both like it was crazy, and my 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:00.080 Maria was in the middle. 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:01.479 Like you that's so funny. 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.720 Yeah, absolutely absolutely, but man, good times and congratulations on 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:05.720 so many things. 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.920 And congratulations you just want to grabby. Was that yesterday 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:09.880 or the day before. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:10.400 Maybe before yesterday? 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:14.600 Yeah, yeah, And I was there in the audience. I 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.040 watched you go up. I was so stoked and you 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:18.880 were like my pants just fell down. 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.880 I literally the morning of I realized that my pants 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:24.360 I lost more weight. 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.800 I didn't realize I lost weight, but apparently I lost weight. 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:27.720 It was an old tux. 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:28.720 It was an old. 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.240 Tux, and so I lost weight. And I didn't try 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.320 it on till the morning of the thing. I was like, 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.559 I'll be fine. Yeah, and I was like, oh snap. 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:39.400 So we put like safety pins and it was fine. 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.080 I was like, okay, cool, and I wore my shirt 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.480 out anyway. It was I was kind of being chilled, like, 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.600 you know, I had cool sneakers and a cool shirt, 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.000 you know whatever. As soon as they called my name, 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.240 I was like, oh snap, and I jumped up, and 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:54.920 I think when I jumped, the safety pins just gave out. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.200 And I started running down the aisle. I felt my 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.080 pants falling down. I was like, oh snap, I gotta 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.840 hold my pants up. So I literally the whole time 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:04.400 after we after won Grammar did the speech and everything. 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.720 The whole night at the Grammys, I had to walk 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:08.320 with my hand in my pocket just to. 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:12.720 Hold them up. Oh my god, You're like way too 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:13.560 cool for everybody. 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:14.560 Somebody want to give me that. 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:20.240 I was like, that's too funny your handsl fall down. 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.320 Did you at least have good looking underwear on? 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:26.880 I think I did, okay, just in case, But it was. 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.960 It was so exciting though. I was so happy. It's 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:34.240 so sweet to me to know you from that age 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:37.360 and to see you go up there and accept an 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.559 award and to see your show the other night. 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.400 So dope. 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.679 I mean, I was so stoked. I don't know if 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:49.520 I I felt very awkward because I sometimes I don't 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.520 know what to do with my hands when I'm not playing. 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:53.760 I'm just not used to it anymore, you know what 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:54.120 I mean? 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:55.040 Exactly? 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:59.840 Yeah, but god, I love hearing you play with Christen, 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.520 Christadie Days, Chris, Dave and Derek holy crap, Derek Hodge. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:07.840 Literally my band is my favorite musicians. 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.600 It's so great now. It's such a great feeling to 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.920 feel like that. How long have you played with him? 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:13.800 Are they from Houston? 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:15.840 No? Well, christ is from Houston. He is. 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:17.480 Yeah, he went to how he went to my high school, 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:21.080 high school performing arts, but he went like he graduated 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:22.640 like he's a little older, a little older. I think 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.160 he graduated ninety two, okay, and not graduated ninety seven. 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:26.080 Yeah, we're the same age. 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.199 We're the same age. Yeah, so we went to So 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:29.680 you went to book T right. 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.080 I went to the Performing Arts in Dallas. Yeah, Bookert. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.640 So I have a lot of friends I went there. 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.160 I feel like we're like parallel sister schools. 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:39.840 Yeah, absolutely, because you had. 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:41.600 Erica yeah, Roy Hargrove. 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.080 Yeah, I went to school with Beyonce. 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.360 And wait, she went there. Yeah I didn't know that. 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:50.160 Yeah she went yeah, yeah her ninth her freshman year. 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.000 I was a senior, she was a freshman. 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:53.760 I actually did not know that. 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.440 Desney's child the next year, the Destiny's Child did the 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:57.640 Super Bowl and they never came back. 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:58.920 Oh yeah, exactly. 0:09:58.960 --> 0:09:59.880 They home schooled after. 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:01.559 Yeah. 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:03.560 I knew she was from Houston, but I had no 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:04.559 idea she went to the. 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:08.160 Performing Like literally, my little sister, I remember salons come 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.720 up to the schools running, give me a hug Like 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:14.240 that was like little sisters, so sweet. So seeing it's crazy, 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:18.400 like yeah, from high school, you and Beyonce, like it's 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:20.640 you know what I mean, Like it's it's it's crazy 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.400 to see so many friends like blow all the way 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:24.439 up in the world. 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:26.400 Like yeah, well it's the same thing when I'm watching 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.680 you and it's like, I'm so proud, and I just 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:32.920 remember being at that jazz camp and being like one 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.200 of two girls or something, and it's like all the 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:38.719 dudes and you know, feeling like a door. Yeah, you know, 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.439 everybody was nice, but like, I don't feel like we've 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.120 ever sat in a room and talked without a bunch 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:50.240 of people around. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's really special. 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:57.240 Yeah definitely Texas. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:01.080 Dang, it's really special. I'm so happy he did this. 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.320 I only met him once. Yeah, he was older, you know, 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.560 so he wasn't there when I got to the school. 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.920 I only got to meet him once. Yeah, but I 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.640 used to like I was obsessed with this record of 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.720 his in high school and I learned a lot from listening. 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:17.200 Of course. 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:19.720 I mean, he's the person when people ask me, he's 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.080 one of my biggest influence influences because he came to 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.920 my high school to do a clinic and that was 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.520 my first time seeing a young jazz band all black 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:30.960 wearing stuff I was wearing. 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:31.760 They were wearing jeans. 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:33.040 Yeah, they weren't like wearing suits. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:33.800 They weren't suits. 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:35.439 That's the first time I saw it, and I was like, oh, 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.440 I can be that because he looked like me. 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:38.440 That's so cool. 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:40.960 Most of the time jazz musicians like like, I remember 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:42.520 I used to go to I used to go to UH. 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:43.920 I used to play with the Winton when I was 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:47.319 in college and we used to go to schools and play. 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.880 And I would always wear like dress and the wind 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:51.760 and win and then would wear the suits like how 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.959 do you But after the show, you know, all the 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:56.280 kids would run and make a. 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.119 Line to talk to me because of your clothes. 0:11:57.920 --> 0:11:59.839 Because I look like that, you know, because that's not 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:01.920 put it to two and two together too, like, oh man, 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.360 that makes sense because you look you want to be 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:09.040 what you see, what looks familiar, like it's a reachable goal, 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:10.959 you know what I mean. Like and it's like, yo, 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.880 that makes sense if I look like it's reachable to you, 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:15.600 like Roy did to me. I was like, oh man, 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.000 I could do that. I could play jazz. It's still 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:19.920 we're sneakers and jeans. 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:20.720 I don't know that. 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:22.400 You know, it's so cool. 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.839 You know so that he really inspired me with that, 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.520 and then he took me on my first world tour. 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.160 You know it was Urge Factor, his band arch Factor. 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.199 Oh Man, I wish I could have seen that. 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:33.640 So I was. I was a freshman in with that 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:38.480 freshman in high school, in college college. Yeah, freshman in college. Yeah. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.160 He took me up from on the world tour and 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.040 the first shows in Houston. 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:47.280 Oh my god, my mom, God bless her soul. My mom. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.120 Walked up to the front of the stage while Roy 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:55.439 is playing the said give my baby a solo. I 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:58.920 swear to guy. The whole band saw everybody die left Roy. 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.920 He was like, hey, you heard your it was a song, 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:02.640 don't leave a solo. 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:06.120 And I'm like, Mom, what are you doing during the song, 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.000 during the during the song the first song. 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.480 Absolutely no, but that that was my mom though, that 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:11.520 was that was that was her. 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:15.800 Oh that's very sweet. Did you did you grow up 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:16.280 in church? 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:17.640 I grew up in church. Yep. 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:19.880 I grew up my first time playing in church with 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.480 a small church and if it was somebody's birthday or 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.880 birthday month, the preacher will let me come up and 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.280 play Happy Birthday on the piano. And I learned that 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:31.200 with literally one finger Happy Birthday at eleven and then. 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:32.520 Throughout the years. 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.400 Because my mother was a minister of music at the church, 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.360 so yeah, she was the choir director and everything. So 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.960 but during the week she sang in clubs and you know, 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:45.200 did like duo, piano, piano, voice, jazz standard stuff. 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.559 And she's singing clubs doing jazz, yeah. 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.600 Jazz and Top forty and Broadway. She loved Liza Minelli 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.600 and it's amazing. I know, more Broadway things than ship 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.400 that's a black man. It's weird, yeah for sure. 0:13:57.800 --> 0:13:58.120 Yeah. 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.960 So yeah, so just like all kinds of music, you know, 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.559 coming up. But I learned how to play literally in church. 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.240 They had like a broke organ in the corner. So 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.960 my mom was conducting the service. I was just learning 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.800 on that organ in the corner. Yeah, you know, and 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:12.480 then I just got good just by that. 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:13.200 That's so cool. 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:15.280 Yeah, that's that. 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.600 I feel like that's similar to so many musicians I 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.240 know growing up and going to being at that school 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:21.760 in Dallas. 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:22.359 Absolutely. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.680 Yeah, playing in church. I learned to sing in church 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:28.720 actually really yeah, but you know it was more Latin 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:30.280 kind of hymns and stuff. 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.120 Gotcha. The Catholic No, it wasn't, but the. 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:34.680 Choir director used to be Catholic. 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:39.280 Yeah, because I played in the Catholic church too. Every 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.800 so on Saturdays, I played for a seven day Vanish church. 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.720 On Sunday. Early morning, I played at the Catholic church. Wow, 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.200 Sunday at eleven o'clock, I played at the Baptist church. 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:49.400 That's the best practice. 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.440 So every for the last two years of my life, 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.520 I played at three different churches three days a week. 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:54.680 That's amazing, you know. 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:58.080 And and all those churches had choir rehearsal, yeah during 0:14:58.080 --> 0:14:59.920 the week, so I was in church all the time. 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.840 But that's such a great gig, and I. 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.080 Was bollowing out of control. I at that dough, that 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:07.840 church dough. 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:10.320 Well, those church gise. 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.960 I know a lot of people that no church gise 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.920 play extremely well now, especially now now that it's cool 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:19.200 to be a touring musician and still have your church gig. 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.600 And now the pastors and stuff, they're like, yeah, my my, 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:22.760 my ms directors on tour. 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:24.240 Yeah, they're cool letting out. 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:24.600 Yeah. 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.600 Before I did it too early, Like I started when 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:29.600 I got to Houston. When I got to New York 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:34.240 from Houston, my pastor in Houston knew a pastor in Harlem, 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.280 so I had a church gig immediately. And so when 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.600 I started playing there, everything was fine. But six months 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:43.880 in I started my friend Balau singer Ballow. We met 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:45.920 at college and we started working on his album. And 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.960 then like a year later he started touring and I 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.560 was going on tour and with him, and. 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.720 Like Christian McBride, I was on tour with and. 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.640 Roy and Roy and back then it wasn't cool yet. 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.240 It wasn't totally cool yet. They were like, you gotta 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:00.960 make a decision. You got to be here or go 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:02.920 on tour. Yeah, well, I love you God. 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.600 But uh, I love you God, but I'm going on tour. 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:09.000 I got to be out man. Yeah. 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.360 But now, like that's the thing everybody holds onto their church, 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:12.720 get subbered out till they get home. 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.920 Yeah, because it's it's big money there. Yeah. 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:17.280 Do you want to try a song? 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:17.920 Sure? 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.200 Do you want to try that one since it's fresh, 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:21.680 or do you want to start with like let it 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:25.000 ride or something? What you want to do, It doesn't matter. 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.560 We'll try since it's fresh. Yeah, do it, let's do it. 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:34.160 Well, So you did this on a live sort of 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:35.320 a live covers album. 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:42.120 Yeah, So I did it at uh the Capitol Building. 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.280 Oh yeah, yeah, I did it. And so what I 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:51.360 did was I had a bunch of couches brought into 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.240 the studio and I made it like a little club. 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:55.160 That's so cool. 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.640 And I had a full bar and had a bartender, 0:16:58.320 --> 0:16:59.920 So I made the studio like a club. 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.120 I got that from Cannon by Idley, Oh yeah, he 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:03.480 did that. 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:06.960 Studio's a lot of live albums. 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:08.600 You hear some of those, specially back then. They were 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.000 actually in the studio because you want the live element, 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.000 but you don't want the sound of a live element sound, 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.440 So you get the best of both worlds by just doing. 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:16.720 It in the stand. 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:17.760 That's idea. 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:18.040 Yeah. 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:21.760 So I had people come invite only at Couches and 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.000 like you know, like I said, a full bar, boom, boom, boom, 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.040 and we just played two. 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:27.760 Sets a night like a show, like a like a 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:28.520 gig man. 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:30.520 So I did two sets boom boom, and then the 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.679 next day I did two more sets, and then I 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.199 just chose the best from each, you know, boom, and 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.920 that's that was the record. Yeah, you know, so it's 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:38.960