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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer, an iHeart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Let's just all take a breath all together, whether you're

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Speaker 2: driving or vacuum with your little ear pods in, or

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Speaker 2: taking at your desk, or pat taking a bath. We're

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Speaker 2: sitting on this couch right now. I hope they're taking

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Speaker 2: a bath. Two three, right.

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Speaker 3: It does help.

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Speaker 2: I think it really does.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I actually do. I came in a little hot

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Speaker 3: and I.

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Speaker 2: Was like, okay, just kind of helps, did you feel

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Speaker 2: a little. It just kind of centers you. It does,

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Speaker 2: You're welcome. Yeah. No, that's like one of my favorite

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Speaker 2: things that I do in therapy because you know you're

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Speaker 2: going in, they're super hot and ready, and then it's

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Speaker 2: just like, let's just take a deep breath and then

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Speaker 2: it just kids in then and usually that's on the

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Speaker 2: the breath and the release of tears. Guys, everybody feeling

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Speaker 2: it is the you know it's almost here, right, It's

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Speaker 2: almost here.

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Speaker 4: That dramatic pause, I think was the podcast version. If

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Speaker 4: you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything

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Speaker 4: at all. I think that's what that was.

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Speaker 1: It's just this season, as much as you want to

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Speaker 1: love it, it's a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot for I do have a little hat

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Speaker 2: well sorry from from the what you don't want your

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Speaker 2: head like? You know what I mean. It's like I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to from the husband for the wife the wife.

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Speaker 2: But that's so true. It is the truth.

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Speaker 3: It's literally watering, and I'm not even.

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Speaker 2: I will say this part.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yes, yes, yes, There's never been a trio

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Speaker 4: of women trying so hard and all of time to

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Speaker 4: be sweet and steadfast and objective as the three of

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Speaker 4: us are today.

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Speaker 2: But I think a lot of women feel this way

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Speaker 2: around the holidays, and I don't think, just like the

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Speaker 2: conversation of the maids, I don't sometimes think they understand

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Speaker 2: what goes in to all of it, because I I

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Speaker 2: don't think they understand that all the little presents for

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Speaker 2: the teachers and getting those together. I don't know a

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Speaker 2: husband that has done that, do youar als Deeal's I

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Speaker 2: think you know the answer to that, yeah, no, or

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Speaker 2: that they even think that that is something that goes

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Speaker 2: along with it, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean you would just I would have to lay

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Speaker 1: it out and say these are the things I need

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Speaker 1: you to get, which I did, and there was two

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Speaker 1: and he did you have two teachers to give gifts

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Speaker 1: to him. No, no, this isn't even teachers. I mean, two

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Speaker 1: gifts out of all of them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, got it.

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Speaker 3: I haven't even gotten to yet. I'm not there yet.

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Speaker 2: Oh but same though I got and then I just

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Speaker 2: said can you know because he was like yeah, and

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Speaker 2: I don't. They haven't come yet, so I don't know

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Speaker 2: the status. But that was the two that I took

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Speaker 2: off my table.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I took two off my list and he got them.

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Speaker 1: I'll give it that. But it's just and this isn't

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Speaker 1: even complaining about husbands at this point, It truly isn't.

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Speaker 1: It's like, maybe we put it on ourselves. Maybe we

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Speaker 1: know it would be done differently. I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: they have no idea. Yeah, they don't have the list

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Speaker 1: of Christmas they you know of, and maybe there are

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Speaker 1: some men out there that do. And that's great, And

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of men that probably have to. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, there are definitely men in situations who have to,

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Speaker 1: so I understand that they don't have to. We take

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Speaker 1: care of it all of the things, and if we

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Speaker 1: ask generally, I think all of our husbands will help

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Speaker 1: and we'll do and I do like to do. You know,

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Speaker 1: I like to be I'll admit I like to do

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Speaker 1: the presence. I like to be in charge of wrapping.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I love rapping. I do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it just as I.

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Speaker 4: Do something for myself every year. Maybe this will be

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Speaker 4: helpful for us or others. Every year, I lock myself

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Speaker 4: in our bedroom with all the gift wrap, and I

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Speaker 4: use my tushy cushy on the floor to aid in

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Speaker 4: the tailbone, and I just put on my Jessica Simpson

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Speaker 4: Christmas and all my sweet little Christmas playlists, and it's

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Speaker 4: just me and a hot coffee or a little tea concoction,

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Speaker 4: and I just it's my Like it's just so therapeutic

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Speaker 4: and I'm tired and I'm like a million other things.

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Speaker 2: I just try to make it like I did with

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Speaker 4: Like I was overwhelmed all the time with laundry, and

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Speaker 4: now I've just made a little sanctuary, just like those

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Speaker 4: moments where you can just kind of anchor and just

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Speaker 4: be grateful and like you know you're praying over gifts

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Speaker 4: and you're being and listen, that's my only Hallmark tidbit

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Speaker 4: for today because the rest of me is just a

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Speaker 2: But for what it's worth, that is.

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Speaker 4: Something I do like doing, and it has been like,

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Speaker 4: it's something I look forward to now. Yeah, Preston's like,

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Speaker 4: I can hire someone to wrap the gifts this year

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Speaker 4: if that will be helpful to you. And I'm like,

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Speaker 3: You a minute.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like it, Like I I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think for me, it's more than mental load,

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Speaker 1: like you just brought up teacher gifts and I know

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Speaker 1: I needed to, but like, oh my gosh, right, yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: that's what's on my list I still need to do.

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Speaker 3: It's the mental load of all of it.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, everyone's going which way and has Christmas

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Speaker 1: parties and has all this and they don't have that schedule.

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Speaker 3: They don't know that schedule. That's all. It's just the

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Speaker 3: mental Yes, physical load.

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Speaker 1: Physical load doesn't bother me as much as the mental load,

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Speaker 2: Did do a little hack this year. I scooped.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry for anybody listening that might have received one

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Speaker 4: of these non so thoughtful gifts from us. I scooped

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Speaker 4: like a ton of really cute mugs from Target that

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Speaker 4: were like the little Christmas tree with the topper, you know,

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Speaker 4: and like all the little ornament Starbucks hot Chocolate, like

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Speaker 4: one off little things and like teeny tiny little Disco

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Speaker 4: star ornaments whatever, and I just did.

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Speaker 2: And listen.

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Speaker 4: I know that not everybody has even the financial capacity

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Speaker 4: to do this, and I understand, but for me, it

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Speaker 4: was worth it to just go get like ten of

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Speaker 4: each of those things and just have like a little

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Speaker 4: emergency gifts mark so that I'm not feeling. And they're

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Speaker 4: all things I would want to receive, which I think

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Speaker 4: also matters. But man, it's like I didn't get anything

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Speaker 4: for Lions teacher. I didn't plan on it.

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Speaker 2: She's there like two.

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Speaker 4: Days a week, and we bear, you know, and has

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Speaker 4: she even been there two days a week because she's velcrow?

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Speaker 4: And then I go to her Christmas program and everyone's

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Speaker 4: toting in huge gifts and I'm like, well, shoot, so

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Speaker 4: it's a little box of goods.

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Speaker 3: It was, Yeah, I've done that before.

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Speaker 2: I feel I feel you though on that. It's not

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Speaker 2: the physical, it's the mental. Yeah, And I think that's it.

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Speaker 2: We love, we love doing the things. It's just the

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Speaker 4: And if you're in young kid mode, you're still in

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Speaker 4: preservation of the magic, which is a whole nother mental

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Speaker 4: file folder right now, because you're trying to I know,

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to keep up with where the gifts are

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Speaker 4: coming in from, right And if you're listening with kids now,

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Speaker 4: you should never listen to us with kids. You should

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Speaker 4: have learned your lesson by now. But if you are,

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Speaker 4: this would be a fine time for you to turn it,

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Speaker 4: because I'm also now moving elves every night, and I'm

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Speaker 4: making sure that these packages are not coming to our

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Speaker 4: house because what's been asked for from Santa. Everyone's got

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Speaker 4: like just trying to make all these arrangements. And so

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Speaker 4: there's that whole thing too. It's a it's not like

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Speaker 4: preserving the magic is what I'm calling it, and it's

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Speaker 4: like protecting that magic is really a whole nother file

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Speaker 4: folder because you have to.

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Speaker 2: Remember what you said and what you ordered. And we're

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Speaker 2: coming up what.

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Speaker 1: They saw get delivered because I get everything delivered. So

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, right, note to self. She saw that

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Speaker 1: has to be from me, can't be Yep.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, I had a package coming yesterday. I thought, well,

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Speaker 4: that is no longer a stop and stuff her.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure though, Ramseys figured it out, and she's

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Speaker 1: messing with me because she keeps adding things. She's like,

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Speaker 1: she keeps saying, now I want Santa, and I'm like.

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Speaker 2: Santa's done to finish, which is funny. Have the problem

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Speaker 2: with Jason, that's wrong with saying it. But he'll he'll

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Speaker 2: make up something. Yes, this is what does an imaginary toy? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a dragon that shoots out this And I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: that we're in right now. You're just on that sweet

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Speaker 2: I know. I love that. Guys. So, did anyone see

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Speaker 2: my New York trip at all?

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Speaker 1: I mean I saw your yeah, your stories.

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Speaker 2: Did you see my dinner? I did see your dinner.

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Speaker 4: Wait oh yeah, oh my gosh, I totally saw your dinner.

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Speaker 2: And I had a moment. I guess.

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Speaker 3: I just I did.

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Speaker 2: I had a moment I just.

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Speaker 1: And I saw who it was. I guess it doesn't

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Speaker 1: It didn't surprise me.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I knew the I saw the connecting pa

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Speaker 4: and I was like, well, that's just it.

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Speaker 1: You never know, right, but I did, like ZOOMN. I

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Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know the girl though, Is that is

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Speaker 2: that true?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Her name is Rita. She's lovely, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: her right, No, Okay, I wondered that same thing. But

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Speaker 2: I know her name.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's through him or through you or something,

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Speaker 1: because I was like, gosh, I know this name, but anyway,

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Speaker 1: go ahead tell.

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Speaker 2: Us okay, so wild right, So I surprised Alan with

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Speaker 2: a trip to New York for his birthday and our

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Speaker 2: dear friend Adam Whitesman, who is a lovely man. He's

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Speaker 2: so sweet, such a generous like just he's such a

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Speaker 2: we're you know, we're very all, very friendly. He loves Alan.

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Speaker 2: They you know, we've had breakfasts and lunches when we've

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Speaker 2: come to New York in the past. And I said, hey,

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Speaker 2: can I stay at your place tonight? I don't know,

434
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Speaker 2: I might be staying there on Monday too, and I'm like,

435
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Speaker 2: I don't have time for this. I gotta get ready

436
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Speaker 2: for the holidays, and yeah, see the kids and that

437
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 2: part too, I'm like I missed the Dickens festival, you

438
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,919
Speaker 2: know all the things that, So I was just they

439
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 2: canceled it. They did, they did, they canceled it because

440
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 2: it was so cold. So I didn't know that until

441
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 2: I got back. But I mean I was the sweet

442
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Speaker 2: people that saw me crying in the airport. And then

443
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 2: that's the thing too, because a few of them recognized

444
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 2: me and they're like, can I take a photo? Was

445
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Speaker 2: like sorry, yes, Like one second, I was like, I

446
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,400
Speaker 2: just really want to get back to my babies, because

447
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 2: you know that, yeah, when you just want to go back.

448
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 2: And then you know, I knew to change the flight

449
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 2: because the two morning flights in Nashville went out. Oh

450
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Speaker 2: And I was like I know anyways, but it was

451
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Speaker 2: still glad you made it. Yeah, it was a good

452
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Speaker 2: It was a good birthday. We had a great time

453
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Speaker 2: walking around Central Park is one of our favorite things too,

454
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Speaker 2: so it was really sweet. Ladies, do we got a

455
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Speaker 2: wine about it? Oh? Man, I feel like we've dined

456
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 2: a lot, but probably.

457
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Speaker 4: We just want to circle back or is there something

458
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Speaker 4: fresh because it's really been all really all my wine

459
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Speaker 4: I got. Yeah, I don't have anything worth noting. I

460
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Speaker 4: mean I have a couple things pinned and I'll keep

461
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Speaker 4: them pinned. But I think we've done a fair share

462
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Speaker 4: of non wine wine. Unless you have a wine, we'd

463
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Speaker 4: love to hear it.

464
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Speaker 1: When people don't tell you the real name, No, I

465
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Speaker 1: don't just like KBS, So no your wine?

466
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Speaker 2: No, Well then let's move right on. Then to headlines,

467
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Speaker 2: brooks Nader says so many women have reached out to

468
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Speaker 2: her about her GLP one addiction. She shared a very

469
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Speaker 2: vulnerable moment how she opened up about her addiction to

470
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Speaker 2: weight loss drugs. She said she was using medications like ozembic.

471
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Speaker 2: She got candid about side effects his medications on her

472
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Speaker 2: new reality show Loved by Nator, and elaborated on her

473
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Speaker 2: addiction to Bustle in November. The thing that I was

474
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 2: so shocked about with the show was that I had

475
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Speaker 2: so many people reach out to me saying I'm also

476
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Speaker 2: addicted to GLP one. I'm ashamed to talk about it

477
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 2: because there's such a stigma around it. It's a crutch

478
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 2: for me, she told the outlet at the time. I'm

479
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 2: still on it, and it's a crutch for me too.

480
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 2: It's not healthy. I should get off it. I'll be

481
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Speaker 2: honest about that, specifying that she lost thirty pounds to

482
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Speaker 2: help her career as a model. Nato revealed that she

483
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 2: booked all the jobs after using the weight loss drug, Kat,

484
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Speaker 2: Do you think that's something that you can that you

485
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Speaker 2: could find yourself being addicted to.

486
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Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by the addiction part of it because when

487
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Speaker 1: you look at sorry, when you look at true addiction, like,

488
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Speaker 1: is it that the body has to have that medicine?

489
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Speaker 2: You know what?

490
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Speaker 1: I mean?

491
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Speaker 2: How I look at it as like and again I

492
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: don't know, but I'm almost looking at it as like

493
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Speaker 2: a mental thing addicted to staying that. So that's what

494
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Speaker 2: it to me.

495
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Speaker 1: I feel like that's what the addiction is, Not so

496
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Speaker 1: much that your body has to have it like a

497
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: drug addiction because it's used to having it. But yes,

498
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Speaker 1: if you're used to being thin, sure, I mean absolutely

499
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Speaker 1: it's I mean it's why a lot of people will

500
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Speaker 1: stay on it for the rest of their lives and

501
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: plan to because they've lost so much weight and who

502
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Speaker 1: wants to go back to being, you know, thirty pounds.

503
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: But people that have lost one hundred and fifty pounds,

504
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,959
Speaker 1: I mean, who's going to get off of it and

505
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: potentially go back to being that much bigger, So yeah,

506
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 1: I see that, you know, as far as like, I

507
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: don't know, like it's hard, Like, you know, I talked

508
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: to my guy the other day and I was like, hey,

509
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Speaker 1: I obviously don't want to gain the weight back, but

510
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Speaker 1: I also don't want to stay on this my whole life.

511
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: So he's going to transition me over to another one

512
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Speaker 1: that he feels like is probably safer to do for

513
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Speaker 1: longer term. But I don't know, it's tricky. I mean, yes,

514
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: of course you get thin, you aren't as hungry, you

515
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: don't eat as much. Of course, it's great, you know,

516
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: it truly is. At the same time, there's things about

517
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: it I don't love also that I could do without,

518
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: you know, like the first twenty four to forty eight

519
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: hours really tired. You know, it's you're very tired. It's

520
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: I don't feel nauseous. But it is a little bit

521
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: of like a logo, like I want to want to

522
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Speaker 1: eat a little bit more in those first couple of days,

523
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Speaker 1: you know, I kind of miss that, like wanting like

524
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: nothing sounds good in those days, Like nothing sounds.

525
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Speaker 3: Good to eat.

526
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Speaker 1: So I would love to get off of it and

527
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Speaker 1: not have that, But I can. I wouldn't see it

528
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Speaker 1: as an addiction for me, I don't think. But also

529
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Speaker 1: I don't want to gain the weight back so well.

530
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Speaker 2: And I think that's the tricky piece of it, especially

531
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Speaker 2: for her too, because like she's a model, right, and

532
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Speaker 2: so if she's a lot of people that I saw

533
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Speaker 2: were saying, well, why are you even on it?

534
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

535
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Speaker 2: You are in great shape, And so I think that

536
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Speaker 2: then maybe sends a message to other women sure, going

537
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: well I look the same, should I be on it? Right?

538
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: And then it's because she looks great, yeah, But if

539
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: she comes off of it, that's then where the right

540
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: the addiction piece might play, where it's well, I don't

541
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Speaker 2: want to I want to stay this.

542
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: Weight, yeah, and especially if she's getting jobs from it now,

543
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Speaker 1: I will say, I think that they are really now

544
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Speaker 1: talking more about like the microdosing and you know, just

545
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Speaker 1: this minimal amount, taking it every so often so you

546
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Speaker 1: kind of can stay on it longer and you're not

547
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: putting as much medicine in your body and you're just

548
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Speaker 1: maintaining that. And I think that that's what. I don't

549
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: know if that's been proven safe, I don't know.

550
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 3: If it hasn't.

551
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: We probably don't even know, but I do think that

552
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Speaker 1: there is something to that. And if you're not just

553
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: going higher and higher and higher and trying to lose

554
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: more and more weight, I.

555
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Speaker 3: Think that that can be a safe way to do it.

556
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Speaker 4: There's also differences in each their articular medicine, and some

557
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 4: of them are best used for inflammation.

558
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, mind helps benefit inflammation a lot. And

559
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Speaker 1: that is another thing I noticed because you know, I

560
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: was having those joint pains and I was worried I

561
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: had to arthritis, I mean almost immediately, and I have

562
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Speaker 1: not noticed it one time since. I've never been more

563
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Speaker 1: like you were not joking, like, because he told me

564
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: it would help with the inflammation. So is it that

565
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Speaker 1: bad that if I came off of it, I couldn't

566
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: deal with it. No, But if someone has really bad

567
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: inflammation and it's helping, that would be that's a good point.

568
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: That could be very addictive because essentially it's helping with

569
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Speaker 1: something that's painful because of inflammation too.

570
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it helps with a lot of things.

571
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Speaker 4: I have that personality around weight, so it would be

572
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Speaker 4: it can be a slippery slope.

573
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Speaker 1: For me, and I truly don't, which is odd because

574
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Speaker 1: I even think because he was like, Oh, let's put

575
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Speaker 1: you on this one if you want to stay longer term.

576
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Speaker 1: I'm like, literally, like, if I gain it back, I

577
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Speaker 1: gain it back like I've been thirty pounds. It's not

578
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Speaker 1: the end of the world for me. It truly isn't.

579
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Speaker 1: But I don't have that relationship with weight. It has

580
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: been great to lose it, and I've enjoyed it. It's

581
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: not going to mentally affect me that much if I

582
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: were to gain it back, but a lot of people

583
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: it would.

584
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 3: It absolutely would.

585
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm in sizes difference, you know, smaller and

586
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I'm still at like a little over thirty.

587
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm just maintaining now. Yeah, I'll lose like a pound

588
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: or two, just maintenance, and then towards the end of that,

589
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: because I'm on do every two weeks now, I'll go

590
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: back up to where I am and I'm I'm great

591
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: with where I am. Could I lose more, sure, but

592
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: I'm fine.

593
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: I'm happy.

594
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: I'm great where I'm at, and I feel you know,

595
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: I feel good and all the things. So, but I

596
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: could see where people may want to. I could have

597
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: upped my dose months and months ago. I just never did.

598
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that, but a lot of

599
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: people will keep upping their dose, keep losing weight, and

600
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Speaker 1: then it can you know.

601
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Speaker 4: And a lot of people are not doing it through

602
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 4: a medical professional, which is tricky. Yeah, there's a lot

603
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 4: of like these third party websites and like people are

604
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 4: injecting themselves of what they think is these weight loss drugs.

605
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: And they aren't weight loss drugs. I just read an

606
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: article about that.

607
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 4: So it's like, and you're getting blood work regularly, which

608
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 4: I think is also important.

609
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's tricky.

610
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: And I will say though that there are some other

611
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: positives really coming out, like about the like the alcohol

612
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: stuff and alcohol addiction. It's really helping with that because

613
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: you just do not feel like drinking on this on

614
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: this drug. I don't know what it is, but it's

615
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of positives that are coming out of

616
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: these things too that I want people to know. Yeah,

617
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: there are probably negatives you know that they have listed

618
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: that we don't know, but there are some good positives

619
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: from it too.

620
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: When is it okay to bring a sick kid to

621
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: a party, so a running nose alone doesn't scare me.

622
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: A lot of kids are going to have running watery

623
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: noses in the winter season. It can be from the

624
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: cold weather, it can be from alergies in the fall.

625
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: Sniffle's not going to do much damage, especially with good

626
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: hand hygiene. She was saying that, speaking of fevers, checking

627
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: your child's temperature with a fancy scanner's unnecessary. Shearman's she

628
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: recommends a standard in your thermometer for kids over two

629
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: months old, for children less and obviously we know rectilly

630
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: is the thing. You should actually stay home if you

631
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: wake up and have a fever, If you wake up

632
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: and you're vomiting. Her diary, lah blah, blah blah. I

633
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: want twenty four hours symptom free before we are going

634
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: to a party. Because you have a fever, you are

635
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: at your highest contagion point. Do you all agree with that?

636
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: Have you ever brought a sick kid to a party?

637
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: I've And what are your thoughts when a sick kid

638
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: comes to your party?

639
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: That's funny, isn't it.

640
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: Thought It's a little different, you know, like if it's

641
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: your kid versus if someone brings a kid.

642
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 4: But like I am not opposite. Well, I'm like a

643
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 4: germs to yourself for us and for this, I actually

644
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 4: kind of am too, essentially. But I will say that

645
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 4: Emmy's birthday is right before Christmas, and when she was young,

646
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 4: she was sick every year on her birthday and I

647
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 4: would have to send a thing, Hey, she's sick, but

648
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 4: we're still having the birthday party. Come at your own

649
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 4: risk kind of thing, you know, But generally, candle, probably

650
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 4: I wonder.

651
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: I actually really when they were that honesty.

652
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember she was like, really didn't feel good

653
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: at like her second birthday, and it ended up being

654
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: kind of small, but it was like I was paying

655
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: for the place. I was like, we'll just go on

656
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: our own if we have to, And then several sweet

657
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: people came and just washed their hands and like, you

658
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: know whatever. But yeah, I mean, like every birthday, but

659
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: I do generally try to stick especially fever. If they've

660
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: got a fever, we're not going.

661
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

662
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 4: I've never been a twenty four hour fever person. I'm

663
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 4: like a solid forty eight or longer. Oh wow, I

664
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 4: mean probably, yeah, I probably do twenty four. I'm just longer.

665
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 4: I also just I think because.

666
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: I got feel good and it's been past twenty four,

667
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: like you're gone, You're going to you're going to school,

668
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it's been.

669
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 4: So Leggie was so sick when he was little, so

670
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 4: so sick that I just won't I'm like, very much,

671
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: we keep our germs to ourselves because I just remember

672
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 4: I have like PTSD from that sure because he was

673
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 4: in they were going to admit him for RSV, but

674
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: they said if he got anything else, it could be

675
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: fake fatal. Yeah, and I just am now like because

676
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 4: like a stuff he knows to an adult could be

677
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 4: RSP to a kid. Right, So I'm just such a

678
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 4: think of like birthday parties versus school, Like school is

679
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 4: such like the pressure of like oh you can only

680
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 4: miss so many days, but don't come back and then

681
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: I mean there's so much pressure there. I'm like, especially

682
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 4: as they get older and like these grades matter and stuff.

683
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 4: I'm like, do you want me to keep my sick

684
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 4: kid home? Or do you want to send me a

685
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 4: note because she's missed too much school? Like That's where

686
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 4: I get frustrated.

687
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: So, yeah, there are probably times that my kids have

688
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: gone to school before they should.

689
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they I mean they kind of force you into it,

690
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: they kind of do.

691
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of this cause now a birthday

692
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: party it's kind of like, okay, yeah, but I think

693
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: it's heads up my party say we can skip the

694
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: birthday party.

695
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I like a heads up.

696
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I have said to people before, like I

697
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 4: and probably one of you two, to say like we've

698
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 4: had a running note. Yes, we've had this, we've had that,

699
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 4: We're feeling fine, we have no fever.

700
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: You've done that several times. I think the courtesy text

701
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: is the way to go. Always it's like, hey, got

702
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: to I would never bring a kid over if they

703
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: have a fever. I mean, obviously besides my wedding that

704
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: was a whole other situation, But with this situation, I

705
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: think it's like, hey, they've got a snotty nose, runny.

706
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: Just want to let you know, no worries if you

707
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: don't want to come over. And then I also appreciate

708
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: that text as well, because normally now third kid, I'm like,

709
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: I don't care. It's fine, right to get the germs

710
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: from the other two or preschool or school. So like,

711
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: thanks for the heads up, that's what I appreciate, but

712
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: do not this is what I don't f with the

713
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: stomach bug. No, that ain't coming any I want you

714
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: to be a week out solid like no, because that

715
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 2: runs through a house like crazy, So that's I don't

716
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: mess with that. Like if anyone says even their tummy hurts,

717
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's okay, we'll wait. Yeah, yeah, we're good.

718
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: You know.

719
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: We also are big on rest when we're sick, so

720
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: like we are pretty good. Like if someone's sick in

721
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: our house, like we quarantine, Like you're sick, you go

722
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: upstairs and you sleep. You need fluids and you need sleep,

723
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: and I we're big on that. And it's not been

724
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: great with because people don't seem to understand that as well.

725
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: But like we've always been pretty good at that, Like nope,

726
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: we're sick, we're hunkering down and staying in boom.

727
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: There's the season for that. Yep. I need help settling

728
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: a parenting debate in our house. My daughter wants to

729
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: wear whatever she wants, and honestly, I'm inclined to let

730
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: her rocket and head out the door with confidence. My husband, though,

731
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: wory she'll be made fun of by O their kids.

732
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: It's made me question whether I should be focusing more

733
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: and protecting her from judgment or on helping her feel

734
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: confident in who she is how would you approach this.

735
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good one.

736
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: You're so old. I don't even think that piece matters.

737
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: I just wonder. Yeah, but I do wonder about because

738
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: if he's saying there's judgment, maybe that's somewhere in the

739
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: elementary well.

740
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: I wondered.

741
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: At first I thought it was like wearing like princess dresses. Well,

742
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: at first I thought it was like close the show

743
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: too much. But then when he said worried about her

744
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: being made fun of, that to me means more like

745
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 1: her own style. That's maybe not like what everyone is wearing.

746
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: And I think that's tricky because obviously, if she's okay

747
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: with it and she wants to wear it, nothing's happening,

748
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: no one's saying anything, or she doesn't care, but at

749
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: some point something might be said, and that's hard. You

750
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: want to protect them from that. But also I think

751
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: let them be themselves, and then if they get to

752
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: a point where someone says something and they want to

753
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: change that, then you let.

754
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 3: Them change it.

755
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree. I mean there's some points where I'd

756
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 2: be like, girlfriend, you know you're wearing two different pairs

757
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: of socks, right, right? Or do you want to, you know,

758
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: change that and she's like no, I love. I'm like okay, yeah,

759
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: you know. And it's like there will be a day

760
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: when she's not gonna want to wear that because maybe

761
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: someone will say it or whatever. But it's I don't know.

762
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: I say, let them rock it with confidence. You guys

763
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: know my opinion. Do what you want.

764
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

765
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: I mean I can see the element of like, oh no,

766
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: someone's probably gonna say something and you want to protect

767
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: them from that or whatever. But I struggle with like

768
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: my kids want to dress like slobs when I want

769
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: them to like dress decent. I'm like, take your sweatpants

770
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 1: off and put on some nice clothes. Like That's where

771
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: I struggle.

772
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 3: This all I've got. I'm like, well, buind some clothes

773
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: that are decent.

774
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: I know it is tricky because we've really gone to

775
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: ath leisure as a society. Yes, me and my son

776
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: have gotten into this so much. Like you need clothes

777
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: where you look presentable. You can't just be out in

778
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 1: sweatpants all the time.

779
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 4: I wore sweatpants to dinner last night, and I kind

780
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 4: of felt it for myself. I was like, shame on me,

781
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 4: and no one cares.

782
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, but it was like percent of the time,

783
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: it's fine, but there's sometimes I feel like we got

784
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: to like present ourselves a little bit.

785
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 4: Well, we kind of just stopped caring, which is a

786
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 4: society like I love.

787
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like my little old ladies, they get to

788
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: wear something, you know that like yeah, we kind of

789
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: do dress up a little bit. Yeah, like you care, Yeah,

790
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: we care.

791
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: I think if it's something where they're wearing, you know,

792
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: maybe like this crazy wild head I, you know, that's

793
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 2: where it's kind of like, all right, baby, let's leave

794
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: that for home. You know.

795
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, if it's distracting maybe to learning environment or something,

796
00:35:59,160 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 4: I could see that.

797
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: That's where maybe I'd come in there too. Where it's

798
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: you you know, they might get made fun of the listen,

799
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: like that one time when I got made fun of

800
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: wearing what I wore to school that one time from

801
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: Evan Macomb. Oh me, Evan Macomb. I didn't wear it

802
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: ever again.

803
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's what I'm saying. It'll you know, it'll

804
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: take care of itself.

805
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: And I didn't know that food Boo meant for us

806
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: by us. I cannot handle Michigan.

807
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: Forgot about that. That's funny.

808
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I will say I would never wore it again.

809
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: And then I told my mom, because she had fifty dollars,

810
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: that was the most expensive thing that she spent all

811
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: her money on for that Christmas. And I had to

812
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: lie to her and tell her that I lost it.

813
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: But really I cried in school.

814
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 4: So opposite for me, I wore Okay, I hope Monica's listening.

815
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 4: Monica and I made a promise when we were in

816
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 4: fifth grade going into sixth grade that no matter what,

817
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 4: we would wear our own style in sixth grade. And

818
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 4: so I went out to Mervin's. Do you remember a

819
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 4: little trip down memory lane? And I remember getting these

820
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 4: penny loafers. I'd wanted them forever, and you know, we didn't,

821
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 4: I think like most families back then specifically, but it

822
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 4: was very much like, here's your five items for school,

823
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: and you will wear this until you absolutely can't fit

824
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 4: in them anymore. And I got the I got the

825
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 4: teal little jeans that I wanted and these penny loafers,

826
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 4: and I popped the penny in and I went to

827
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 4: school and she did not wear what she wanted to wear.

828
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: She wore what everyone else was wearing. And it was

829
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: the moment.

830
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 4: Where I was like, you know how you feel like

831
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 4: very movie like where the whole world like it's just

832
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 4: like a spotlight on you. Yeah, And there was some

833
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 4: comments made and I knew that I couldn't, like, we

834
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 4: weren't going to go buy more things, and so there

835
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 4: I was penny loafing that. But at like, I think

836
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 4: it strengthened a muscle in me that made me not care.

837
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 4: And now look at me, which is I truly don't care.

838
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: I think some people. Yeah, I do think it would

839
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: be hard for me though.

840
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: But it was a different world.

841
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 4: Also, I will say that this isn't no social media, No,

842
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 4: I mean I think bullying was.

843
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: Way, way significantly less.

844
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if my child came and wanted to be

845
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: like super like gothic or you know, a style that's

846
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: just really out there, like every day all day with her,

847
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: it would be hard for me to just I know

848
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: that I need to probably just embrace that and let them,

849
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: but I would admit that would be hard for me.

850
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look at Northwest, that would be really hard.

851
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 2: That just she just said, you know, for those of

852
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: you that were upset about my finger, you're saying she

853
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 2: did the things that you know she's twelve, so I

854
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: saw that thing come out. So it's like, you know,

855
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: if if love Ramsey and Jolie, it's like would to you, right, yeah,

856
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 2: but you want them to express their how they want

857
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: to dress, and that would be hard. Yeah, it would

858
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: be really hard. You want them to be either. Some

859
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: people don't, you know, a lot of some people don't

860
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: want to wear the sparkly like there's still Jolie has

861
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 2: this really cute little sparkly sequency things. She's like, no, no,

862
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: like it. I'm like, it's so cute, but she's not

863
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: that right or early in some moments like that, you know,

864
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: we're going through the same thing where I'm like, but

865
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: this is great and textured and loves like I like

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Speaker 2: the plain white one and I was like, I'm dying

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Speaker 2: to slow death. But that's fine, make me up the

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Speaker 2: but yeah, so I mean you know what to do, mama, Okay, ladies,

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Speaker 2: I love you, Love you, chat soon,