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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show. Fuck Sports Radio. I hope you're having

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Speaker 1: the greatest day of your life. Sure, why not? Right,

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Speaker 1: you have the greatest day of your life? No, I

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Speaker 1: mean it. You guys think I'm being condescending. I'm not

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Speaker 1: in any way. So I don't know how we got here,

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Speaker 1: but here we are. We're at this crossroads. What we are?

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Speaker 1: What crossroads you like? Pray tell Doug Gottlieb what crossroads

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Speaker 1: you're at. We're at this crossroads where you can either

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Speaker 1: choose to listen to logic, reason people in the industry,

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Speaker 1: or you can listen to people who have bones to

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Speaker 1: pick and carry you in a bias of things. I

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Speaker 1: love I love t Josh Benzada an actual personal friend

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Speaker 1: and a friend of the show. So when I play

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Speaker 1: for this sound of T Josh man Zada, I just

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's interesting. We also have

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Speaker 1: sound of RG three, but we all carry sort of

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Speaker 1: a baggage, many of us against RG three and his

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Speaker 1: way of analyzing and the perspective he comes from. Shador

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Speaker 1: Sanders played poorly over the weekend in a preseason game

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Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Browns. If you've watched Door Sanders and

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Speaker 1: I've watched a ton, it's talented quarterback, accurate, He's not

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Speaker 1: of the big things that the criticism he held the

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Speaker 1: ball too long. Now, remember he didn't have a good

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Speaker 1: offensive line for the most part in college. How do

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Speaker 1: we know One he took a lot of sacks, but

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Speaker 1: two he made sure to tell us as such. I

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Speaker 1: don't profess to be a quarterback guru. I've seen all

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Speaker 1: the highlights, have seen every play he played, and in

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Speaker 1: no way did he play well. He accumulated five sacks

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Speaker 1: and the main reason, for the most part, was he

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Speaker 1: held the ball. He probably held the ball because he

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Speaker 1: didn't see it, might have been confused. He's just a rookie.

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Speaker 1: It's not the end of the world. But if you

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Speaker 1: factor in all of these things, didn't play well in

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Speaker 1: two of the outings, right, he didn't. He didn't play

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Speaker 1: well in the outing. There's always been concerns about him

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Speaker 1: holding the football too long. And if you're holding it

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Speaker 1: the hero player? You're holding it too long because you're

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Speaker 1: the league said about his attitude and preparing for the draft.

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Speaker 1: While he has said some things which there's an appearance

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Speaker 1: of some humbling, let's not act like he's been humbled.

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Speaker 1: He shows up with his little mine entourage, people filming

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Speaker 1: him everywhere. And then you factor in that if you

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Speaker 1: right surrounding personnel, well, now you're trying to undercut his

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Speaker 1: chances of making the team. Where do I sign up

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Speaker 1: for this dream scenario in which I get Shador standards

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Speaker 1: and I get all this baggage for a guy who,

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Speaker 1: though talented, not the perfect player. Tom Telesco is going

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Speaker 1: to join us later on the show. I'll never forget

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Speaker 1: a conversation he and I had they needed a backup

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Speaker 1: I'd be a hero if I signed him. But you

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Speaker 1: because of something other than football. You tell me which

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Speaker 1: Sharp show. Why do you think the Browns played it

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Speaker 2: And and and you door and Shador's performance today.

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Speaker 3: From a from my assessment, y'all, they don't want to controversy.

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Speaker 3: That's how I look. They don't want to count because

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Speaker 3: we know what Flaco can do. Why why is Flacco

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Speaker 3: start the game? We know what he can do. He

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Speaker 3: let y'all to the playoffs the last time, y'all let

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Speaker 3: him play. So, if you're trying to figure out who

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Speaker 3: you let them split the game. Snoop is Snooper Helley Tyler,

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Speaker 3: Hunty's getting cut tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: You let them.

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Speaker 3: You let them battle without And so to me, it

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Speaker 3: was like, Wow, you you put him in with guys.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be on the street tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: They all getting cut shat and everybody should do play

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Speaker 3: with you know that tomorrow on Monday. And so you

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Speaker 3: didn't get this man a fighting chance to compete. He

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Speaker 1: Okay, and most of those offense lemon have been cut.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about the lineman playing previous to that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Stup Huntley, by the way, and I know there was

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Speaker 1: a game winning field goal that did happen, right, So

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Speaker 1: it is possible. Here's what I would like. Here's what

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Speaker 1: I would really like. I've told this to other people,

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Speaker 1: He's a brilliant dude, and he sits there and he's

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Speaker 1: the only guy who knows why I'm taking somebody out. Hey,

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Speaker 1: whush did you happen to mention? He was awful? Awful?

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Speaker 1: His body language was worse. You show me the young

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Speaker 1: the one who had his number retired after playing two

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Speaker 1: has that bad abide language when he's not playing well.

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Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want about the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't made better by Shador Sanders, Okay continuing to

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Speaker 1: drop back and not step up into the pocket and

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Speaker 1: back pedaling, and it was bad. You're allowed to take

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Speaker 1: this wasn't good. Take a breath and watch. That's a veteran,

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Speaker 1: see how he controls it. That's called coaching. And what

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Speaker 1: have to blame. You don't have to split the minutes,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to split the reps. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a quarterback guru. I don't know. I can

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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel was remarkably better, and I've never been a

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Speaker 1: low ceiling because he doesn't have a big arm. He

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Speaker 1: is little. But you know what, played really well in

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Speaker 1: both of his preseason appearances, So why would they set

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Speaker 1: him up to fail? Like, No, do I think that

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Speaker 1: that Stefanski loves the set up. I'm sure he hates it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's like the rest of us. We roll

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Speaker 1: our eyes and it's ridiculous. And you have these sick

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Speaker 1: where Shador Sanders is now calling Kaepernick? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: like explain, you know? He son of a pro, went

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Speaker 1: he had some success, mostly at Jackson State, some at Colorado.

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Speaker 1: Goes to the draft and rubs everybody the wrong way

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Speaker 1: with his pre draft attitude and his willingness to show

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Speaker 1: complete disdain for teams he didn't want to play with,

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Speaker 1: of the draft. You're in the National Football League also

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Speaker 1: known as NFL. Not for long, and there's modest change

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Speaker 1: at times in his persona. Then he plays poorly. Right again,

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Speaker 1: all you have to ask Shannon, and again Shanon just

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Speaker 1: ask him did he play well? Forget about the players

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Speaker 1: he didn't, have a chance. That's fine. I've watched those

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Speaker 1: chose not to do so, Like, stop making it about something,

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Speaker 1: it's not that it's about. Here's Kevin Stefanski when asked

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Speaker 4: Obviously, I don't concern myself with outside type of things.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I'm committed to his development, just like

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Speaker 4: all of our rookies. So we'll continue to focus on

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Speaker 4: getting our guys better, and that's what We'll stay committed

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Speaker 4: to him. That's what's important to me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I yeah, I think you cut him. You

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Speaker 1: And I know they haven't done it yet. I just

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Speaker 1: I think you and the fact that they haven't cut him,

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Speaker 1: to get pressure from fanboys that don't watch or care

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Speaker 1: or whatever. I'll get some social media pressure. I'll get

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Speaker 1: some media pressure to talk about him, to play him

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Speaker 1: to whatever. When he's at best third on the depth chart. Okay,

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Speaker 1: best third in the depth chart. And if you do

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Speaker 1: play him now, you can't really ever replace him. Think

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Speaker 1: like crap. And the takeaway for some people is you

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Speaker 1: made him play like crap. Imagine if he goes into

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Speaker 1: an actual Browns game, if he plays well, people will

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Speaker 1: go crazy. If he plays poorly, people will go crazy,

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Speaker 1: but they're not gonna blame him. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: we got there. I don't I don't understand. Like it's

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Speaker 1: if it was about race, then why they just cut

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Speaker 1: Snoop Huntley, Like nobody mentioned snow Puntley's black, by the way,

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Speaker 1: way more experienced they cut him. Yeah, I'd love this.

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Speaker 1: I'd love at some point, Jay Sue, maybe next year

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Speaker 1: when you come to one of our games, you can

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Speaker 1: track why I take certain players out. I do that

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Speaker 1: with their parents all the time. I had one of

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Speaker 1: my kids who left the dad's like, why you took

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Speaker 1: him out for this? You took him out for that?

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Speaker 1: I was like, WHOA, No, I didn't no, I didn't

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Speaker 1: you took him out of a mistake, like no, no, no, no, nope, nope.

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Speaker 1: Didn't take guy out for one mistake. The mistake you

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Speaker 1: It's the Doug gott Lieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is the only show that brings you guys that

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Speaker 1: Show on Fox Sports Radio, what do you do with

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Speaker 5: look you're looking for. Whether you're laying on the table

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Speaker 5: for thirty seconds or thirty minutes, it's just not the

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Speaker 5: look you're looking for. First off, They're just you have

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Speaker 5: to have communication between yourself and the agent. And I

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Speaker 5: just think in this situation until the agent is part

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Speaker 5: of the process, I just don't see the deal getting done.

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Speaker 5: And I know every team does it different ways. I

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Speaker 5: know the Cowboys have done in different ways, But in

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Speaker 5: this situation, until there's direct communications and negotiation with with

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Speaker 5: the agent, I just don't see anything getting done. Now,

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Speaker 5: the big thing is we move into that cut the

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Speaker 5: fifty three and get ready for opening day. You know,

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Speaker 5: if you're holding out and you're not there and you

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Speaker 5: don't play in the game, obviously you wouldn't make your

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Speaker 5: your base salaries for that week. But if you're holding in,

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Speaker 5: you're on the active roster, and if you don't play

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Speaker 5: in the game, then the club would still owe you

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Speaker 5: and his you know, for him, it'd be over a

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Speaker 5: million dollars one point three million dollars for that game.

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Speaker 5: I see no way the Cowboys are going to pay

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Speaker 5: one point three million to not play in the game.

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Speaker 5: So something has to break here, whether it's to get

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Speaker 5: the deal done or it's there's conduct detrimental for refusing

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Speaker 5: to play, and then you can either you can find

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Speaker 5: the player, you can suspend him. Something's going to have

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Speaker 5: to happen because he's on the active roster. He's due

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Speaker 5: to be paid week one right now, even though he's

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Speaker 5: not going to play. So I'd be shocked in the

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Speaker 5: next seven days if there wasn't some movement one way

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Speaker 5: or another. But it has to start with communication on

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Speaker 5: both sides, and you know, more so on the Cowboys side.

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Speaker 5: It sounds like, well.

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Speaker 1: Stut Gottlib show here on Fox Sports Radio. How far

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Speaker 1: away is Jackson dart.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm a big Jackson Dark fan from the draft

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Speaker 5: and then watching the preseason that I haven't changed my mind.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I think he could go in and play

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Speaker 5: right now at what level he would take some lumps.

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Speaker 5: I mean just it's natural as a rookie quarterback. But

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Speaker 5: I think he could play right now. But it's also

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Speaker 5: not a bad thing that he sits and waits. I

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Speaker 5: mean it's different for every quarterback. It's different for every situation.

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Speaker 5: I think Brian Gaebeles definitely he's going to pick the

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Speaker 5: quarterback they can that he feels right now has to

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Speaker 5: give them the best chance to win opening Day. He

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Speaker 5: feels like, right now it's Russell Wilson. But I think

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Speaker 5: at the time comes, whether it's September, October, November, December,

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Speaker 5: I think Jack's won't be ready to go. I'm ready

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Speaker 5: to play.

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford starting to like how do you handle that

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Speaker 1: where you just you have no idea. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess you got Garoppolo, who's you led a team to

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl, But how do you handle that in

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Speaker 1: terms of how much you invest in Stafford in real time?

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Speaker 1: Like obviously I'm not talking contractually, but what what how

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Speaker 1: do you how do you handle the Stafford thinking for

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Speaker 1: the Rams.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's literally going to be day by day, and

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Speaker 5: it sounds like it's getting better day by day. But

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Speaker 5: as a lot of us know, with back injuries and that,

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Speaker 5: and if it has effected your nerves, you know, sometimes

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Speaker 5: the rehab process and the strength it comes very slowly,

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Speaker 5: and so they have to kind of gradually start moving

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Speaker 5: them in. But you have to also have a plan

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Speaker 5: B with with Garoppolo in case Stafford is not ready

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Speaker 5: to play. So probably in practice with your ones, probably

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Speaker 5: the backup quarterback Garoppolo in this case, you'll probably take

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Speaker 5: more snaps than he usually would to get him ready

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Speaker 5: in case he has to play, which is completely fine

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Speaker 5: because Stafford probably you probably don't want to have him

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Speaker 5: take every snap right now in practice. So they've got

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Speaker 5: thirteen fourteen days ago before opening day, still have some time.

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Speaker 5: But essentially, if you're the coach, you know you really

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Speaker 5: have to get two quarterbacks ready to play since just

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Speaker 5: you know, back range back injuries are unpredictable. I know

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Speaker 5: he has missed, he hasn't missed very much time in

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Speaker 5: his career, but he's had back injuries in the past,

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Speaker 5: and you know, the older you get, it doesn't get better,

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Speaker 5: So don't have a plan for both. But in practice

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Speaker 5: you're certainly going to work. Both quarterbacks are good amount.

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Speaker 1: He's the one and only Tom Telesco. Of course, what

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Speaker 1: does he know. He's only been in professional football his

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Speaker 1: entire professional life and been a gentle manager for twelve

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Speaker 1: years in the Nation Football League. Last thing, Tommy, do

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Speaker 1: you like this system where it's basically like one big

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Speaker 1: cutdown or did you like the old system better?

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Speaker 5: So? I like this better because gives every player a

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Speaker 5: chance to compete for a job. The only hard part

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Speaker 5: about it was just administratively releasing thirty seven players over

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Speaker 5: a day or two. It's just a lot of work

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Speaker 5: because you want to spend enough time with each player

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Speaker 5: on his way out, just as a courtesy, just talk

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Speaker 5: to him about what he did about career options moving forward,

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Speaker 5: that sort of things. You want to make sure you

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Speaker 5: take the right time the head coach to position coaches,

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot of time involved. But I like

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Speaker 5: the one cut because because everybody get a chance to

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Speaker 5: show what they can do for the certainly for the

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Speaker 5: third preseason game. You have a really good chance to

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Speaker 5: play your young guys. If you're a team that doesn't

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Speaker 5: want to play their starters. It gives you enough players

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Speaker 5: to play the third preseason game and give every player,

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Speaker 5: say college for agents that when you sign a MAC

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Speaker 5: for the draft. Part of the recruiting process is we're

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Speaker 5: gonna give you the whole offseason program. We're gonna give

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Speaker 5: you all training camp in three preseason games to show

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Speaker 5: us what you can do. And guys need that, and

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Speaker 5: so I like this. It's just administratively, we're a two

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Speaker 5: day span. It's just a lot of players to let

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Speaker 5: go of. Now you know, roughly half will come back

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Speaker 5: on practice squads. Sure, but no, it's a process. It's

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Speaker 5: not fun really from players obviously, but the process itself

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Speaker 5: of building that initial fifty three is a very enjoyable process.

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Speaker 1: He's time to LESCo. He's built the original fifty three

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Speaker 1: as the gentleman, as a gentlemenasuer for twelve twelve different years.

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Speaker 1: And just love having you, love soaking up that knowledge. Tom,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us. We'll talk next week.

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Speaker 5: All right, sounds good, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Telesco's going to join us former Gentlem manager Raiders Chargers.

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Speaker 1: We'll ask him what he thinks of the Browns quarterback situation. Also,

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Speaker 1: Micah Parsons contract negotiation. We got the press I'm coming

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Speaker 1: to your boy wherever you go. We do this every Monday.

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Speaker 1: It's a great way of kind of getting different points

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Speaker 1: of view of the sports weekend. We call it love

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Speaker 1: and hate.

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Speaker 2: What did you love?

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Speaker 1: God?

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Speaker 4: I love you?

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Speaker 1: And what did you hate?

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Speaker 3: These player haters.

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Speaker 1: Love love, love, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate hate hate. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's these. Let's start with you, Monsie. You're the uh

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Speaker 1: you love lots of stuff. Tell me what you love

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Speaker 1: most of the weekend.

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Speaker 6: All right, there's actually a few things, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to mention it one more time. I

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Speaker 6: know we've talked about it, but.

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Speaker 7: I really really loved that cal Rawley was able to

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Speaker 7: have a successful second half of the season after participating

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Speaker 7: in the Home Run Derby, not just because it is

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Speaker 7: exciting when records are broken, like that's what we want,

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Speaker 7: just so people feel like, hey.

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Speaker 6: There's always an opportunity that we can see history. Right,

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Speaker 6: But in other sports we've seen, like the All Star

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Speaker 6: Game and other sports kind of like continue to fall

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Speaker 6: and continue to produce a terrible product. And I feel

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Speaker 6: like baseball still has a fun home run derby, a

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Speaker 6: good you know, all Star game that people participate in,

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Speaker 6: but the Home Run Derby a lot of players are

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Speaker 6: afraid to participate because we have seen the downfall in

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Speaker 6: the second half. So aside from records being broken, aside

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Speaker 6: from seeing cal Raley do what a lot of people

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Speaker 6: didn't think, Like Jason, it's nice because now I'm hoping

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Speaker 6: other big players, other big stars in baseball that have

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Speaker 6: not participated in the home run derby when they're hot,

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Speaker 6: that they actually do it, that they're not afraid of it.

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Speaker 6: Because if a catcher can do it, a full time

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Speaker 6: catcher that is out there putting in the work with

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Speaker 6: those legs up and down, squatting constantly, and Jason mentioned it,

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Speaker 6: it's not even that many games as a as a

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Speaker 6: designated hitter. Like now, there's really gonna be less excuses

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Speaker 6: when we come around for this next you know, home

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Speaker 6: run derby. That's what I really loved about the weekend.

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Speaker 6: I'm excited for cal Raley and you know what, he's

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Speaker 6: not even done. I wonder what the final number is

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Speaker 6: going to be. And that's gonna be another time where

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Speaker 6: I bring this back up. So until then, go cal Raley,

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Speaker 6: big dumper, big, big dumper, big.

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Speaker 8: What's the name of the what's the name of that

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Speaker 8: that country artist that you like, is it Morgan something Morgan.

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Speaker 1: From Morgan Waller, Yeah.

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Speaker 8: To walk this weekend. Kyle Rawley to me, will always

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Speaker 8: sound like a guy who opened for Morgan Walling.

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Speaker 6: You know, I will say, Also, big Dumper is the

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Speaker 6: best name that a baby can have on the back

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Speaker 6: of a Onesie like you know, if you give him

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Speaker 6: like a cal Raleigh like Onesie says big dump, that's

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Speaker 6: that's the best.

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Speaker 8: Sorry, it's good.

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Speaker 1: It is good. Good, Okay, Chase.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. I love

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Speaker 8: the fact that Monsey brought up guys that are reluctant

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Speaker 8: to do the home run derby because my love today

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Speaker 8: has to do with show Hey Otani, who was never

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Speaker 8: participated home run derby. I don't think you should. I

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Speaker 8: don't think you should. And yesterday was amazing. So I

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Speaker 8: guess a heckler was wearing them out right next to

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Speaker 8: the Dodger dugout. And what do you do with a

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Speaker 8: heckler that's been wearing you out for nine innings? Well,

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Speaker 8: you hit a home run in the ninth to cap

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Speaker 8: an eight to two win over your nemesis and then

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Speaker 8: show hey as opposed to most big leaguers who ignore

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Speaker 8: the hecklers. And they walked to the dugout show. Hey

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Speaker 8: went over and gave him a high five. And that's

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Speaker 8: what you do to hecklers. You hit a home run,

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Speaker 8: you shove it in his face, and then you give

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Speaker 8: them a high five. Something maybe Jose Al two they

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Speaker 8: should have done when a certain heckler did this in

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Speaker 8: a ballgame recently. Is that what.

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Speaker 9: Twenty seven stands for the number of pitches you saw

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Speaker 9: coming to the TeV twenty seventeen postseason?

645
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Speaker 1: Ah?

646
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: Is that what twenty seven stamps for?

647
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Speaker 8: Answer me, Doug, You said this that that wasn't too wordy, right?

648
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 8: It was very concise?

649
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: Yes, it was. It was sharpest, concisest to the point.

650
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think everybody applauded your ability there to

651
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: talk trash in a super uncomfortable way. Yes, classic, Ryan,

652
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: What do you got wou'd you left for the weekend?

653
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Speaker 9: I love train wrecks, Doug, especially when they're self inflicted.

654
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 9: This Browns quarterback situation is hilarious to me. Four quarterbacks

655
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 9: on your roster. There was no reason for them to

656
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 9: draft Sanders. They're not gonna cut them. They're not gonna

657
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 9: cut them, I don't think so. And they're really gonna

658
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 9: go into the season with four quarterbacks and it's just

659
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 9: gonna be a circus. The Browns just do this to

660
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 9: themselves every single year. They are just a bunch of idiots.

661
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 9: And I'm here for the whole car wreck.

662
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 8: I love it.

663
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 9: That's what I love.

664
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Speaker 8: I'm with the whole thing.

665
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: It's it's a lot, there's a lot going on there.

666
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I love. From the weekend, we

667
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: had an Elite camp, and you know, you use the

668
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: Elite camp you really want to show guys, your campus,

669
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: your coaching staff, how you do things. And it gave

670
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: us a chance to evaluate some of the younger players

671
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: in the state, especially I just there is a portion

672
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: of the sport of college sports which is very much professionalized,

673
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: and it's about who can get me the most money?

674
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Speaker 1: How do I get the most money, and then go

675
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: find somewhere else I can go get the most money.

676
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: And that's again apparently okay by people. There's still something

677
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: special about offering a kid a scholarship and have it

678
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: be meaningful to him. And I did that yesterday to

679
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: two young guys and it's not for twenty twenty six,

680
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: and it just still feels good. It still feels good

681
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: and It still feels bad to not offer a scholarship

682
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: somebody who you know wants to come and is close,

683
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: but like you not actually helped me get to You're

684
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: not ready to help me get to the destination we need.

685
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: But still feels really really good. There still is the

686
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: kind of organic Hey, I've always wanted to play at

687
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: this place. Forget about money. I just love that part

688
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: of the weekend.

689
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Speaker 8: This is a I mean, that was an amazingly touching story.

690
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 8: So I don't want to downplay that, but I was

691
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 8: kind of hoping you would Your love today would be

692
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 8: what you did after that count, which was what I thought.

693
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 8: I saw you and Dan Byer on a course we

694
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 8: play golf.

695
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Speaker 1: Oh I forgot that. Dan posted that. Yeah, so I

696
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: felt bad. So Dan's out there. So Dan's mom lives

697
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: like hour and forty minutes from from my country club,

698
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: right hour and forty minutes. So he he's like, hey,

699
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: you want to play. It's like, yeah, I'm done with camp.

700
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: I don't know three. Then I got to talk to parents,

701
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: probably done at four. So it was periodically downpouring, and

702
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, there's no way Dan's gonna be years,

703
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: Like no, but still here. So it's like, all right, well,

704
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: let's see if we can sneak in nine. We went

705
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: out there and I mean we had the whole course

706
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: to ourselves. It was it. It's gonna warm back up

707
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: this weekend. But it was fall. It was beautiful. We

708
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: saw ten deer and two other golfers and he played

709
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 1: really well. I played decently well. It was fun. So yeah,

710
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: that was That was a good part too, Ryan, what'd

711
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: you get.

712
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 8: Already? Went Doug.

713
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry. Let's get to what we hated from

714
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: the weekend. We hated from the weekend with a resident hater,

715
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: Jason Stewart.

716
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 8: Yes, that is me. Let's see what's tid I hate

717
00:38:53,960 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 8: from the weekend. I hadn't locked and loaded. What was

718
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 8: my hate? Do you remember?

719
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 9: I'm not Charles Xavier. I can't read your mind.

720
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 8: Yeah. Sorry, there was something that Joy Taylor said over

721
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 8: the weekend that did want to mention, and I just

722
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 8: think that there's like, you know, five years ago, everybody

723
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 8: lost their mind, right in twenty twenty, and then all

724
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 8: of a sudden we found out that on air what

725
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 8: everybody's politics was, and it was accepted and no one

726
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 8: thought twice about it, and then it came and gone,

727
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 8: and it doesn't get enough attention for how unsightly it was.

728
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 8: But you know, Joy was very much a part of

729
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 8: the liberal left and wokeness. And you know, every margin

730
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 8: wise group in the country needs to be spoken for,

731
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 8: especially people with privileged need to step up and say

732
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 8: this margin wise group, it's how they look, has nothing

733
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 8: to do with them, It's not their fault. And then

734
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 8: she goes on Cam Newton's podcast and calls Jason Whitlock

735
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 8: fat says that she's surprised as it is still alive

736
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 8: and that a coronary hasn't happened yet. I thought that

737
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 8: was a bit hypocritical, you think.

738
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Speaker 1: Plus, can you imagine if we said anything about her

739
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: appearance or any woman's appearance, how that would go over.

740
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: We would go not well, I have to say this,

741
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: and I'll go more into it in the pod. But Moncey,

742
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I think she's done a lot of damage

743
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: to women in broadcasting here. She had high profile spots.

744
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to get into the you know,

745
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: off Mike, what happened in the you know, the lawsuit stuff.

746
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: Wish she has not come out and denied. I don't

747
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: know enough about it. All I can tell you is

748
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: that that's not great for the perception of women in

749
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: the in the industry. And then, and here's the thing, Mancy,

750
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: you would be honest and like you're learning all the

751
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: time about sports, right, yeah?

752
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 6: Absolutely?

753
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: Okay, if you every weekend went on like a went

754
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: went to some different resort and posted pictures and then

755
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: Monday came back and wanted to speak on authority about

756
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: every sport that was played over the weekend.

757
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're saying mixed messages, right, correct, Yeah, you're saying

758
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 6: and I totally understand that, and I agree with a

759
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 6: lot of what you're saying. I just it's unfortunate because

760
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 6: it does put a negative light. It does, And I

761
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 6: think it was more that I think she realized that

762
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 6: maybe she had other avenues of success that she could

763
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 6: dip her toe in, and it did become like a

764
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 6: mixed message like am I am I supposed to go

765
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 6: to you for sports or are you now going to

766
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 6: be you know, a social media And there's nothing wrong

767
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 6: with that, But I just feel like she was just

768
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 6: kind of like trying to do a little bit too

769
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 6: much maybe and then getting mad when she didn't get

770
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Speaker 6: the respect that she thought she demanded correct.

771
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Speaker 1: So that's the part. The part is when you when

772
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: you chastise others, yeah, or not treating your opinions with

773
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 1: a proper amount of respect, and yet you clearly don't.

774
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: I actually think she's really smart. She knew she used

775
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: the sports to get in and she wanted to do

776
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: other stuff. Yeah, okay, fine, but don't like chastise us

777
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: for people who not me, you know, people in the

778
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 1: media or whatever, fans who don't take your opinion seriously.

779
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: Not because you're a woman. I'm sure there are some

780
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: that's because you're a woman, but there's a greater portion

781
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: of like, hey, you know, you're putting out there on

782
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: social media. It's not like it's a private account, and

783
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: you're literally never here, never going to sporting events, you know,

784
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: except when it's your nephew. Like that's it.

785
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I think that.

786
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: Does damage MANSI what you do? What did you hate

787
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: for the weekend?

788
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 3: Oh?

789
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 6: Let me tell you I hate is a strong word,

790
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 6: but very annoyed on the verge of hate. Let's say

791
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 6: that I am just Lebron James is in this middle

792
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 6: of like the NB season is starting in two months.

793
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 6: I don't know if he's talked to DeAndre Ayton, Marcus Smart,

794
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 6: has he congratulated Luka doncic. I don't know, but we

795
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 6: know that things are weird there. And this guy thinks

796
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Speaker 6: that we're just gonna see his tweets about golf and

797
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 6: forget the situation. Now, all of a sudden, you like

798
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 6: golf and you want to say Tommy fleet his tweet.

799
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 6: He doesn't tweet about anything. And if yesterday like five

800
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 6: tweets about golf, and you're just like, why are you?

801
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: Who are you to now all.

802
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 6: Of a sudden think we're gonna go to you for

803
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 6: golf or pretend you're he's he's pretending, and I'm just

804
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 6: so over it. I'm just so over it.

805
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: You don't like him?

806
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 6: Sometimes you just don't. Yeah, it's like, what do you, Lebron?

807
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 6: Go on, man, don't say anything at all. Don't say

808
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 6: anything at all?

809
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: Here you are? You don't want us to talk about you?

810
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 6: Oh, let me tweet about Tommy Fleetwood. Shut up, Lebron?

811
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Speaker 9: Such a hang?

812
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: Okay, what about you there? Ryan? When he got.

813
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Speaker 9: I hate it when people are giving a chance and

814
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 9: they blow the opportunity. Shiloh Sanders, what the hell were

815
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 9: you thinking, man, the final preseason game and you punch somebody. Dude,

816
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 9: you're undrafted, They're gonna cut you. Like, what are you doing?

817
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: Man? That wasn't the worst part. Though. That wasn't the

818
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: worst part. The worst part was, uh, it was it.

819
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: Jordan Schultz was like, how can you throw him out

820
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: for this? This is ridiculous? Like, hey, Jordan, it's a

821
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: rule punch in the NFL. You get ejected and he

822
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: did it right in front of an official.

823
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Speaker 9: Yes, personally, I think they should let them fight. They

824
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 9: have pads on in a helmet. You're not gonna hurt anybody.

825
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 9: The only person that's gonna get hurt is the person's

826
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Speaker 9: who's throwing the punch. But whatever, Shilo Sanders man, like

827
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Speaker 9: you ticked me off over the weekend.

828
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Speaker 8: Don't only have to give credit to the guy that

829
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Speaker 8: he punched. I have no idea who this guy is.

830
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Speaker 6: I'm going saying instigated him pushing him? Yeah, yeah, this

831
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 6: receiver though, no, this this seemed like the play was

832
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 6: over and he was still bothering him.

833
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 8: In the moment he turns back and calls for the

834
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Speaker 8: penalty from the from the refs gets gets the onslaught

835
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Speaker 8: of flags and then goes right to the too short

836
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 8: gesture right right away. I thought it was brilliant. It

837
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 8: was actually a really good rub it in gesture. And

838
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Speaker 8: then I'm.

839
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Speaker 1: With I'm with Ja Jase too. It was a very

840
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: good rub it in.

841
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 9: It was taunting, which was not called by the way.

842
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: I didn't like how the weekend. I mean, like I

843
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: I hated how the weekend went for college football completely

844
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: according to plan. And I think, like I watched Fresno

845
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Speaker 1: State and I have friends that are in the cal

846
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Speaker 1: State system. For people don't know, the UC system is

847
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Speaker 1: U C.

848
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Speaker 2: L A.

849
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Speaker 1: Berkeley. For the cal State system, there's San Diego State,

850
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Speaker 1: Long Beach State, Fresno State, cal State, Santis Laws, Fullerton

851
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: which is not Fullerton State.

852
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 8: It's Stanislaus. What a deep poll cal State Stanislaus won, Yes.

853
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: But Fresnoe went and played Kansas. Kansas is not the

854
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: most invested in school. They put a bunch of money

855
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: into the new David Booth Football whatever Oriial Stadium, and it's beautiful,

856
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: but they're they're they're trying to compete in the Big Twelve,

857
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: which is a higher level than Fresno, and Fresno has

858
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: no money, and that's what it looked like. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's what a lot of these non conference games

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Speaker 1: are going to look like. The big boys have so

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Speaker 1: much more money that it's not competitive and I hate it.

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Speaker 1: I hate it, But it's not that I hate Kansas winning.

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Speaker 1: It's just it wasn't really a competitive football game. And

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Speaker 1: that's love and hate.